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55590920 No.55590920 [Reply] [Original]

CCIP should be pure(?) profit for nodes (gas fees directly covered by users, no API overhead subscriptions), and scale with usage/txs (flat fee for messaging, % for token transfers + a 10% charge for payments in non LINK assets).

CCIP represents a major shift in that previously chainlink oracles indirectly enabled/captured value by being used in the backend of third-party dapps (hence why we had to use terms like TVS instead of TVL, or how pricing between CLL and dapps had to be conducted via off-chain deals, subsidies, shared cost model between different users).

With ccip, chainlink value model goes from indirect to direct, ie the 'universal gas' meme, being direct on-chain interactions, direct fee payments without backroom subsidies, etc. While it's still used in the back-end of dapps like snx and aave currently, with reference bridges ccip might soon become a front-end layer.

Imagine for a moment that ccip was a brand new project with a brand new token. Everyone would be salivating to get in.

But it's not a brand new project. It's a subset of a project that already established its monopoly as the de facto crypto infrastructure metalayer, that enabled the defi boom, never got exploited, +700 employees, secured its long term treasury, etc.

It's critical to understand that the price feeds, with their indirect value model, act as monopoly establishing loss leaders, for ccip to generate direct value, without additional trust assumption for +1000 dapps.

The only crypto project directly working with the biggest financial institutions like SWIFT and the DTCC, BNY, etc.

Now combined with the eventual implementation of staking for ccip, this means this direct value capture would flow to the token holders and stakers. And ccip would only be a subset of the larger chainlink network, with data feeds starting to generate more revenue like the gmx deal or the build airdrops.

I don't think any of this is priced in or well understood by the community/market yet.

>> No.55590941

>>55590920
tl; dr

>> No.55590948

actually it's all priced in
thats why ur $6 and not 0
now, show us the money
either shit or get off the pot
we're tired of words
we want PRICE ACTION

>> No.55590966

I think you severly overestimate the Chainlink project as a whole. Chainlink has 2 uses cases;
1- it ''confirms'' the price of an asset, which is important indeed for defi projects
2- it generates random the number for the handful of crypto lottery project out there

However, the token isn't needed to verify the price of an asset using chainlink

tl;dr: you should have sold in summer 2020

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55590975

>>55590966

>> No.55590983

>>55590966
dont mind me
just checkin those digitzzz

>> No.55591001

>>55590966

kys

>> No.55591014

>>55590941
tldr is token not needed, sergey lied people died

>> No.55591015

>>55591001
lord kek has denied thee trips

>> No.55591050

>>55590920
>ccip might soon become a front-end layer.

Can you expand on this?

>> No.55591051

>>55590920
>I don't think any of this is priced in or well understood by the community/market yet.
The biggest joke of all FUD, FOMO and anecdotal Link lore, will be the price going higher than people expected because
>link = universal gas
converges with
>liquid supply staked for collateral

>> No.55591064

I am taking a shit and LINK will go to over $1000

>> No.55591077
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55591077

>>55591051
bagholder cuck it will never be above $8 again you missed your chance

>> No.55591083

>>55591077
Lord kek has blessed thee with the trips of 7
meaning: universal truth

>> No.55591217

>>55591077
Yes I agree, the price of the token is going to violently explode due to incredible fundamentals

>> No.55591227

CCIP = chainlink cope is pathetic

>> No.55591257

>>55590966
checked

>> No.55591304

>>55591050
CCIP is the frontend for all blockchains

>> No.55591321

>>55590920
That’s cool but /biz/ doesn’t like paragraph breaks (le Reddit spacing) so your opinion will be disregarded

>> No.55591350

>>55590920
Bro looks like a minecraft character

>> No.55591452

alright so ccip basically work like this
*folds paper*
*pushes pen through paper*

>> No.55591549

CCIP arb bot:
1. Take a flash loan on X chain
2. Bridge to Y chain
3. Purchase asset on Y chain
4. Sell asset on Z chain, profit from spread
5. Bridge profits back to X chain
6. Repay flash loan

Imagine doing the above during the LUNA crash you would have made 100k without thinking.

CCIP DEX aggregator:
1. Integrate one or many DEX aggregators on chain X, Y, and Z into a single uniswap style frontend
2. Let user set destination chain & wallet address
3. User picks asset they want to buy or sell
4. Cross chain routing algorithm finds the best quote across supported chains

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55591641

>>55591227
Chainlink Chads Increase Power

>> No.55591653

>>55591304
>frontend
that's nothing special

>> No.55591671

>>55590920
Yeah, so?! Quite coping baggy!

>> No.55591695

>>55590920
everything you say is true but you forgot about how Bitcoin has to giga dump now to stop the pump.

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55591714

Stare into my eyes and hear my words linkies

Let's get one thing straight. You WILL hold those link bags. You WILL be happy with a 5% pump. That much I can tell you. A guard will come by your pod three times a day to administer the mood detection test. Should it read "insufficiently grateful," there will be an appropriate response. So, let me say it real clear. You're going to live without the pumps. You're going to share your profits with the state. Yes, it will mostly dump, and you're going to regret it.

>> No.55591730

>>55590966
You don't understand Chainlink. You are ignorant. It's cool, though, you're not alone. You'll scramble for the last remaining chairs when the music stops. I've been sat down for a long time.

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>>55591653
Your mother's backend is special :^}

>> No.55591969

>>55591653
Tell that to Steve Jobs then blow it out your ass

>> No.55592121

>>55591083
Cringe. Also those are dumbs.

>> No.55592332

>>55591730
I've been on this board since late 2017, I know chainlink very well

>> No.55592394

>>55592332
Howd you lose your stack? Bancor?

>> No.55592419

>>55590920
so based. check my digits btw

>> No.55592655

>>55591051
>converges with liquid supply staked for collateral
not yet anon they will only allow full staking once its 100% confirmed its profitable so not this cycle
i for one like this news because it means we get another blowoff top and subsequent dump to multiply our stacks then moon mission in 2027

>> No.55593204

>>55591083
Counting a multiple of three is hard, eh fuddie?

>> No.55594077

>>55590920
All this new capital benefits node operation and a very small group of early staked Linkies.
What happens to the regular guy the buys a few thousand dollars worth with hopes to get a small percentage of that capital flow revenue of CCIP .
How can CL accommodate the demand? In the current form…POOLS CLOSED kinda vibes.
Are we looking at another Bancor situation where folks are programming bots to get 1st access to a new pool?
Im open to hear it out but I don’t think the value CCIP provides necessarily translates to value for everyone. Just the people who are running nodes and able to stake. The common new bag holder won’t stake or have a opportunity (see bot problem) the token would need to actually increase in value.
Im excited for the possibilities but I didn’t stake any.

>t.115k bag holder

>> No.55594090

GM based kings

>> No.55594112

Why does wBTC and other wrapped coins still exist if CCIP is live

>> No.55594172

>>55594077
DECO