/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55558899
hi incel! banned from /pol/ again?

>>55558904
Hey roastie! How’s your day going?

>>55558899
Forcibly removing women from the workforce would economically cripple both of the companies I work for, because women make important contributions to both companies. Sorry your incel chud fantasy didn't work out i guess

>>55558899
Too bad we’re all so emasculated we can’t even tell them to stop being fat

>>55558917
Well you can't really blame her. Back then nobody knew that bitcoin was gonna be succesful. What he did was reckless but he got lucky and it turned out in his favor. Can't blame the woman for being the logical one in that situation and picking the safest route.

>>55558899
Specifically, which problems would be solved by this? How?

>>55558899
Talking to women at work has made me less scared of them. Also I don’t want to be surrounded by dudes all day.

>>55558965
This is not a world that rewards the “safest route”. Any woman who controls your financial decisions is likely to guarantee you are a wage slave until your 60’s minimally.

>>55558925
>women make important contributions to both companies
Such as?

>>55558965
Woman moment

>>55558917
Honest question, which do you think is worse: being a 30 year old guy who is a virgin but has never had to deal with women's shit his whole life, or being a 30 year old guy who was in a multiyear relationship, got married, and got divorced? On the one hand, the married guy got to have sex and at least the illusion of true love, but now the trauma from that relationship will haunt him for the rest of his life.

>>55558965

>Man spends his own money on Bitcoin
>Roastie Seethes
>Man spends his own money on Roastie
>Roastie loses respect for him and fucks one of her coworkers

He hit the lottery the day that bitch left him.

>>55558965
Can't tell if ironic reddit posting or actually retarded

>>55559326

>Retarded Dichotomy

>>55558965
>What he did was reckless but he got lucky and it turned out in his favor.
should have spent his money on a new purse instead!

>>55559326
Is this a joke question? As a 28+ virgin (prosties don’t count) I’ll easily choose my life over being divorce raped.

>>55558965
Strong b8

roastiepostie
roastiepostie
american hours roastiepostie
What's the agenda here lad?

>>55558965
>What he did was reckless but he got lucky
There is no such thing as luck you fucking pussy. He deserved every penny he made from BTC if he actually didn't sell it for nothing due to this roastie whore. The sooner you accept that luck isn't a real thing and just a coping mechanism for pussies and incapable men, the sooner you'll stop being a broke faggot.

>>55559998
t. lucky

>>55558965
I’m gonna reply to this post too haha I’m angry! Haha

>>55559326
I’ve met too many broken older guys that have been completely hollowed out as people by their bitch wife in a divorce so I’d go with that being the worse outcome by far.
Being a permavirgin isn’t ideal either but it’s at least a personal thing that someone may have some control over.

>>55560030
I hope I can find a man broken by divorce and snuggle him back to health

>>55560030
>>55559632
Well yeah, this is what I mean. I agree, but I feel like "society's" answer is that you need to get married and try to reproduce, no matter the consequences. That the reward is worth it, that you're "missing out" on this important part of life if you don't. Yet I've read and seen so many horror stories that make me thank God that I avoided falling into one of those pits of hell. Video related really emotionally scarred me, for example:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_CP8sIC-8U

And people will excuse this sort of shit or be like "oh that's really rare you shouldn't worry about that" but like... jfc that's real life. That really happened. It could happen to you, too. I honestly don't know how that shit doesn't turn into a murder-suicide at that point, especially after going through that show and putting it on public display and seeing how she reacts. And this is just one, relatively extreme, example of the sort of shit I'm afraid of. Even putting obvious things like STD's, accidental pregnancy, and "crazy people": the false rape accusations that have been increasing in the past couple of years scare the shit out of me and I have no idea how to counter it. The #MeToo movement really rekt the relationship between men and women in the West nowadays. I just don't think the risk is worth it, and so the demographic collapse happening around the world really doesn't surprise me. You reap what you sow, I guess, globohomos.

>>55560104
A better question is: why should that man trust you to be any different? Honestly I'm already at a point in my life where I have a good career going and am in relatively good shape/healthy, with decent looks, and have been getting more interested in trying dating. But holy fuck the culture nowadays just seems so fucked it's hard to make a case for taking on all the risks involved.

>>55560164
>Whyshould that man trust you to be any different?
I have a penis so the divorce court won't give me jack

Shill thread to make you afraid of women and making babies

>>55558899
>removing women from the workforce
Ho-Hum another NEET incel kissless virgin gonna save the day.

>>55560176

Women with social media is like a nigger on crack

>>55560283
Pretty much. It only enhances every single one of their negative qualities

>>55560283
social media and anonymity are like rocket fuel for psychopathic traits in people. you'd never be an asshole irl to someone's face, but online there's basically zero consequences to your actions so people can let loose with that stuff with no punishment. it gets even worse when you get into the realm of bots, i.e. accounts that pretend to be real people but actually are fake.

>>55558899
actually all that is needed is legalizing prostitution.

>>55558899
>Forcibly removing women from the workforce
The Taliban did this when they took over Afghanistan - Overnight they destroyed health care and education.

>>55560722
Based.

>>55560722
Its not like afghanistain was producing anything useful with its education. They didn't destroy anything. I would include iran as a country with better management of women. Saudi arabia too.

>>55558899
>ban women from workforce
>men have to work more
>pay remains the same
>have a family
>can't afford a stay at home wife
>can't afford taking care of your children
ok

>>55560779
That’s not how it would work retard. If the workforce was cut in half overnight there would be a lot of job openings which would drastically increase wages while having a net zero effect on inflation. Basically everybody would be better off.

>>55560779
we saw what happened when there were more jobs than workers.
as long as overall consumption and demand remains mostly the same, the market can afford to pay the remaining workers more if some of them leave.

No it wouldn't, and you already know that.

>>55560801
>everyone would be better off if we reduced economic output by half because....then I could finally have sex!

>>55560836
Cope

>>55560867
they're arguing that output wouldn't actually be reduced because most jobs are bullshit anyways
i'm not saying i entirely agree but that's the summary

>>55560880
Yes and that's so self-evidently retarded I don't feel like giving a serious response

>>55560899
Typical woman response kek.

>“I don’t have to give an actual refutation because I just know that I’m right!!! America would fall apart without women and our pointless jobs!!!”

This board seems to be full of sheltered kids that lack real life experience.

>>55560899
He's right though. Women mostly work in jobs like HR, Media Relations, Social Media Managers, and other bullshit.

The only decent thing they work in is the health sector.

>>55560149
Of course it is a raw deal for us. Imagine most married men only have sex like once a month. It’s literally cheaper to fuck a hooker.

>>55560722
How do we stop the impending worldwide demographic collapse, then?

You can talk about economic shit all day but ultimately nobody is fucking, nobody is marrying, nobody is having kids. Overpopulation is a joke, underpopulation is going to be the big problem our generation faces in the next 20 years. The Pill was the beginning of the end, once you tell the women of the species that they never have to get pregnant, and then sprinkle on le patriarchy on top of it, you then have an extinction level event for humanity. The funny thing being: the religious fundamentalists (like the taliban) are gonna be the ones to survive this shit, if anyone does. Our decadence and atheist nihilism will be our undoing ultimately, and if it is then honestly we deserve what's coming to us.

>>55560963
>>55560936
I don't disagree that women in the workforce are useless but what about the fefails that work in coding jobs?

>>55561023
Other than issues propping up the ponzi social security system, what is bad about less people on the planet?

>NOOOOOO LINE MUST HECKIN GO UP

>>55561035
They do "project management" or get other people to do their work for them by showing their pussy to nerds on snapchat.

>>55560936
>>55560963
>go outside
>women working service jobs
>women working the pharmacy
>women working at the hospital
>women working marketing and sales
>go home
>put my incel blinders on
>see only HR diversity hires who work at chainlink labs
>am convinced I could have sex without it hurting the economy if only a chainlink roastie was made my sex slave

>>55558925
Let me guess, a PR company? Maybe an HR staffing company? We can do without.

>>55561078
>>women working service jobs
Kek
>>women working the pharmacy
Kek
>>women working at the hospital
Okay
>>women working marketing and sales
Kek

>>55560988
Yeah, even if you are successful through everything (meeting a woman, dating her successfully, eventually living together, getting engaged, getting married, and finally having kids), it's not like it's any guarantee of loyalty or love or anything like that. Living happily ever after or something like that. Plenty of stories of people married for over a decade, with multiple children, where the wife cheats, or worse. In fact, the most likely person statistically to murder you is your spouse. And people can change for one reason or another: you maybe be together for 5 years happily, 10 even, and then her growing resentment spills over into something awful.

It's like... it's not like if you get married you "win". In fact if you think about it, shit just gets even harder. I want my life to get easier as I get older, not harder.

>>55561040
There are very few smart people in the world and even fewer "geniuses" that make the real breakthroughs. Our best bet for survival in the long run is to end poverty as soon as possible and make use of as many smart people and geniuses as we possibly can, the more brainpower we have the better.

Also getting to "less people on the planet" is going to involve a ton of suffering and privation and death along the way. Probably war and famine, too. Certainly will be hell for you and me, our generation, and honestly that's the only one I care about since all empirical evidence currently points to YOLO being true. I don't really give a shit what humanity does after I'm dead since I don't see any evidence suggesting it will matter after that point. The marriage/kids reproduction thing is mostly just an evolutionary biology/biological directive sort of thing rather than having any sort of transcendental value. The main reason it might be a good idea (if our culture wasn't so fucked up currently) is because we're biologically designed to value that shit extremely highly, so it's probably "the best feeling" if you could do it right.

>>55560779
Doubling the number of workers without doubling the number of consumers is one of the largest forces that drove relative income per person down over the last 8 decades.

>>55561023
At least I have my shoe closet!

>>55561040
>>55561110
If you want to look into it more, this was a great interview:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcA3rI19jYM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoqjKqt__tI

>>55558899

>>55561110
>Our best bet for survival in the long run is to end poverty as soon as possible
And how are you gonna do that with more and more people competing for finite resources? Don't say "muh productivity gains" we're not gonna be living in star trek where we can materialise food anytime soon.

>Also getting to "less people on the planet" is going to involve a ton of suffering and privation and death along the way. Probably war and famine, too.
Not really, birthrates are already sub replacement levels everywhere but the third world.

>The main reason it might be a good idea (if our culture wasn't so fucked up currently) is because we're biologically designed to value that shit extremely highly, so it's probably "the best feeling" if you could do it right.
We're no longer apes who can't see past the desire to reproduce.

>>55560149
>I agree, but I feel like "society's" answer is that you need to get married and try to reproduce, no matter the consequences. That the reward is worth it, that you're "missing out" on this important part of life if you don't.
who cares what society thinks? Society wants you to marry a 35 year old career women instead of a cute 18 year old who will wants to have traditional gender roles. Society doesn't want what is best for you, so why should you care?

>>55561144
>Don't say "muh productivity gains"

idk, we've done pretty damn well so far. the club of rome said we were going to have mass starvation by the year 2000 and look at us now. i'm not saying that humanity should just spiral up out of control forever if it could (although the opposite of that is happening as we get more technologically advanced), but you'll be hard-pressed to actually put a number on how many humans Earth could support especially as technology continues to make advances.

>Not really, birthrates are already sub replacement levels everywhere but the third world.
We're not there yet, like I said, next 20 years or so. The problems come when there are too many old people and not enough young people to replace them and do the necessary work, to keep society functioning. It's unavoidable at this point. If you want kids that are 20 years old today, you had to have them 20 years ago. It's very easy to map this sorta shit out. Here's a good video explaining the situation from China's perspective, since they're getting slammed with this first and hardest:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTbILK0fxDY&list=PLR5tswn4SFyUOm3QusvlFGbPCCAN_uXnK&index=1

>We're no longer apes who can't see past the desire to reproduce.
Not really. People are still susceptible to all sorts of biological drives that they aren't in control of. They just get warped by the speed of technological progress: people can jerk off to porn for free, maybe even get some sex toys involved, so why try to form a relationship to have sex? Who needs friends when you have social media, or even AI which is becoming increasingly good at that sort of thing? The convenience is overwhelming, look at obesity, that's a great example. Are we no longer apes who can't see past the desire to eat fats and sugars? Clearly not. Humans diverged from monkeys, what, 5-8 million years ago? We've barely been around that long. The technological revolution is EXTREMELY recent, like 1-2 centuries recent.

>>55561155
It wasn't always like this. The birth control pill was invented in the 1950's, consider how recent that is compared to millions of years of evolution where that didn't exist.

>>55560283
kekked

It’s not women shitting up my favorite image boards with ESL crypto scams