/biz/ - Business & Finance

Denver is such a meme.

t. Denver

>>55507531
>livable wage
I wish all the commies who use this dishonest phrase would die of starvation

no, I don't want the poors to have money. It makes me poorer by proxy

>>55507543
Imagine spending 10's of thousands of dollars getting a degree and wasting 4 years of your life when you could just wait tables for 30 an hour and have a head start on compounding your assets in the market

>>55507541
It doesn’t mean anything except “please accept socialism”.

How can a wage be livable with a targeted inflation rate?

>>55507531
Look at this and understand you will never make the peasants happy, so don't bother.

>>55507541
>commies
funny to see poorfag wageniggers brag about sucking their jewish master's cock.

>>55507541
dishonest how? You mean since the hobos in san fran survive livable wage is at 0 dollar, since you can survive on begging like those hobos and waitresses/servers?

>>55507537
The American west used to be a place of rugged individualism, now it's a place for rich white people who are escaping diversity (but won't admit it openly).

Who the fuck is mad? No I will not read the article.

Wagies are already paid a livable wage. If they weren’t then they wouldn’t be living.

>>55507716
The big breasted servers who used to make $50 on tips before

>>55507531
>Increase minimum pay to less than what servers bring in with tips.
>All taxable because no cash under the table
Kek. Way to go, leftards.

My tinnitus is getting worse

>>55507764
super based, anyone who is a server is fucking scum and deserves to suffer

>>55507716
It was 2 anonymous bartenders. Probably white woman

>>55507716
>No I will not read the article
Good choice. The article doesn't mention anything about 'mad' people more than in the click bait title.

So your guess is as good as anyones. Big tittied servers who've BJ:d their way to all the most crowded hours is mine.

They also only had 1 day to accept the new contract (double pay, no tip) or quit, which would probably piss some of.

>Kek. Way to go, leftards.
Well, it's quite nice for the customers to not be surrounded by beggars when they eat. No matter political view.

>>55507809
>Well, it's quite nice for the customers to not be surrounded by beggars when they eat.

IF the restaurant bans tips all toghether that is.
If tips is allowed/not refunded to the customer, and kept by the owners it's next level douch baggery.

>>55507537
what if the white colonizers were actually geniuses all along? They did horrible things to the Native Americans, but maybe they knew something.. They kept slaves. Were cities in BLM riots back then?

>>55507531
Opponents of a livable wage argue that such policy could potentially harm the very individuals it aims to help and might negatively impact the broader economy. They posit that setting a high minimum wage could lead to job losses and automation, as companies might not be able to sustain increased labor costs and could opt to cut workforce or invest in automated technologies to replace human labor. Small businesses, especially those operating with tight margins, might find it difficult to stay afloat. Additionally, they suggest that artificially raising wages could cause inflation, as businesses could pass the increased costs onto consumers through higher prices. Lastly, opponents believe in the principle of merit-based pay and worry that a livable wage might disincentivize productivity or professional growth, as employees would be guaranteed a certain income regardless of performance.

>>55507531
>and some are mad
I fucking called this years ago. These faggot ass servers don’t want to make “a liveable wage” because they know they’re making bank on this whole tipping racket. Basically servers are faggots and don’t deserve to be tipped and no I don’t feel sorry for them for not making an hourly wage because clearly they are profiting immensely from ripping customers off with American tip culture.

>>55507531
you already make more than 99% of the world. Amazon and Mcdonald wagies in your country earn multiple times more than doctors, engineers and lawyers in mine

>>55507831
A restaurant with 500 employees paying a livable wage is not the same as raising legal minimum wage state or nationwide...

>>55507831
>posit
Hardly need to posit when countless other countries dont use tipping culture kek

>>55507559
Nobody is going to college because they plan on making 30/hr

>>55507531
>and some are mad
kek the media is such a joke. its amazing to me people still eat this shit up verbatim and can't see through the veil

>>55507831
You're right. We need to start seizing and redistributing property

>>55507531
We either need to go back on a sound money standard (like gold, silver, platnuim, even BTC) or go the opposite direction and have universal basic income. There's too many people who want to have a niche job and not niche jobs available, therefore they have to resort to working at restaurants or scrubbing toilets.
70 years ago the milkman and the janitor had a house and 4 kids with a wife. Completely impossible now.
Yang should have been president.

>>55507824
They're renaming the tallest mountain in Colorado because it's named after the governor who was in office during an Indian massacre.

>>55507868
In many places in the US, $30/hr is considered low income, and you can apply for section 8 housing.

>>55507832
I'd rather they just didn't exist. I can see the window where they get the food. The chef running expo can just say, "hey, fuck head, your shit's done" and I can walk my happy ass up there and get it. I also know how to refill a glass of water. Believe it or not, I'm a big boy.

>>55508949
if you're in a busy restaurant or pub thats gonna be really hard. it works in fast food places because they have a whole logistical supply chain

Businesses need to do more for their employees. It should become commonplace for your employer to provide some sort of onsite safe area for workers to reside overnight, even if they're just sleep pods with locks on them.
If there isn't going to be a solution to homelessness. At least enable the ones that are able to work.

>>55509209
I used to wash dishes at a popular mid-range fish joint in a tourist location and they had one server, that was essentially a bus boy because people served themselves. I know it's hard for you to admit, but you were never deserving of a livable wage, because you're useless.

>>55509316
im not a server lol. i just dont think its realistic. especially in a busy restaurant or pub with over 40 people eating

>>55509373
I just said that it is. The place I worked at would have 250 people during peak tourist season.

>>55509228
>>55509228
The US is already solving homelessness anon. They're making it illegal. You can either work full time to pay rent and eat every other day, or you can go to prison and become constitutionally sanctioned slave labour for globohomo corp. The system works.

>>55509228
this sounds very european

>>55507531
Elites make the PHD and cerficates etc.
and they think that their thinking should pay off so they screw up the workers. I
understand their thinking.

>>55507771
Stop thinking about it as a malady or something you're trying to 'fix'.
The brain filters out sensory noise it deems 'irrelevant' to your current goals and safety, but by fixating on it you make your brain flag it as something important and threatening that needs constant attention. Just accept it as the sublime of the universe, and you'll soon find you haven't noticed it in weeks.

haha I never knew they bought casa bonita, this is awesome

casa boniiita casa boniiiita!

>>55507531
I wonder if it's sustainable
I guess it took a boost from the show but SP is not trending anymore

>>55512063
They have an almost cult following from their core fanbase (edgy incels).

servers and bartenders/waitresses like the tip system, they make tons of money from it

good wait staff at high end restaurants seriously make low six figures with tips, the people who complain about how unfair tips are, are unskilled unsociable people who work at shitty restaurants and don't know how to provide service

>>55512871

Deliberately seeking out a restaurant that rich, generous people go to and either being hot or friendly does not make you "skilled" lmao

>>55507531
You can't not make it in America. You make more as a waiter there than as a doctor in western Europe.
What a joke

>>55512915
cost of living in america is much higher

>>55507831
in denmark mcslaves make over $20/h and the franchises are still profitable american goycattle are just loyal bootlickers.

>>55515052
But we pay less tax

>>55515096

>Le Danish McDonald's Minimum Wage Maym!!!

Minimum wage law says nothing about your actual median wage i.e. the thing everyone should care about since it's way more representative than "my only political priority is making sure teenagers and niggers get paid well"

>>55507831
Based ChatGPT cleaning this shitty thread up with a great summary

>>55508949
this already exists, it's called Five Guys

>>55507832
Most tipped jobs don't make anywhere $30 an hour and really it's more like $15 an hour. $20/hrs on a great night and $25 an hour on those once a month rare exceptional nights.

>>55507531
Yeah "le living wagerino for le waiters" has literally always, ALWAYS been shit that only absolutely ugly as shit waitresses, waiters, bartenders have ever wanted.
These are jobs for pretty women and handsome men to make lots of money to do nothing. This is an attack by Big Fat Ugly Loser (like Big Pharma or Big Tobacco but it's big fat ugly losers) against the beautiful people of the world.

>>55507716

Some of these "high class" restaurants have customers who will easily top hundreds of dollars per order.

A server can make something around $500 to $800 a night.

>>55515052
Lmao, Americucks believe that

>>55512915

Doctors in the U.S. are largely frauds, privileged families and scam artists who somehow acquired a license to practice.

Most are basically sales men for pharma.

Most will be replaced with AI as most of these frauds are just operating off of a basic protocol, they are not critical thinkers but rather like I said, frauds playing doctor.

>>55507716
Who cares?
I work in restaurant management and let me tell you that nothing is ever good enough for these people.
The average waitress thinks their job is as follows
>I walk in 15 minutes late, collect $500, then leave.
>>55515501
Per capita doesn't mean median. There will always be a higher income ceiling in the US than other countries but the floor is also much lower.
The US labor market is completely retarded and only benefits those who have a niche skill set and immigrants who will live with 30 other people to make sense of their $16/hour job.
If you are somewhere in the middle good luck.

Wages would rise if we actually closed the border and deported millions of illegals.

Because of cost disease, wages in ALL unskilled labor would rise if we deported the illegals. Their current jobs would have to offer higher wages to attract Americans, which would mean other jobs would lose their workers to those jobs, unless they offer higher wages as well.

Just pay them fucking minimum wage PLUS THEY KEEP THEIR TIPS.
Is it
so much
to fucking
ask?
This could have been solved by the lovable nigger president but he didn't make it a law. Biden isn't either. Nobody in either part will do that because it helps American workers.

>>55507771
Turn on a fan while you're in your computer room and when you sleep.

>>55507771
I had this for several weeks in 2020. I almost went crazy from it. Keep a box fan running in the background on high at all times. Hopefully it will go away on its own anon. God bless

>$30 an hour simply to take plate from A to B
>complain
No wonder the elites wanna cull 90% of these fucking NPCs

>>55507531
yes but only to white people

>>55507716
Attractive servers get more than 30 an hour.
A big titted white woman can get every part of every order wrong and still make 50$ every hour there's a divorced boomer in the restaurant.

>>55508949
Good luck talking to anybody when the chef fucks up your order.

>>55509414
You didn't say where it was or anything about it. You forget people go out to eat to feel like a big shit, they aren't going to pay exorbitant prices if they don't get to boss anybody around.

>>55509228
It is a huge liability to let someone live in your business workplace, and I believe it is illegal unless there is a proper accommodation like the trailer homes that some construction workers get.

>>55515949
First, not true, second they all lie on their taxes and never get caught.

>>55515949
>>55520211
I can only speak for the place I'm at but on an exceptional night it's $700-1,000. On a great night it's $500-600. A good night is $300-400. And anything under $300 is just ok.
They also tip out 25% to support staff / bartender.
So that $600 night turns into a $450 night and then it gets put on a check where it's taxed and suddenly it's not so great when a few slow nights flatten out the average. We are also seasonal so that kind of money is really only coming around from like May - September and it's been a shitty, rainy, summer so far.
Restaurant staff are also fucking retarded and they only exist in the present state.
They either want to make $500/night or they want to immediately go home. Then they wonder why they make like $30k for the year when they'd probably make $80k if they just stuck with it.

The restaurant industry sucks and it's soul crushing if you do it too long but if you're in high school I recommend getting some shitty job like a host or a busser at a good restaurant, not a Chilli's. Do that for a year then make server and you'll have a sick job for college and that first post-grad year when you're doing your entry level adult job that pays like $50k.
Then just get the fuck out and don't look back. Focus on building your career and starting a life.