/biz/ - Business & Finance

>tfw average cost of all my silver with taxes and shipping was $36/ounce
I fell for the silver meme guys

>>55499210
Groom your cat you negligent piece of shit, it's disgusting

>>55499210
Heckin based floofers! Loving the Caturday Threads Reddit Sisters!

Some photos of krugerands make them look rosy / coppery

When you see them in person do they FEEL like gold?

Last thread died shortly after i asked a question, so allow me to ask again.

>>55499145
Is it a good idea to stack bronze follis? I know that they're not gold or silver, but I keep seeing them here. Does their value increase in some constant manner or are they easy to resell?

Where can I buy the boymoder coin?

>>55499280

>>55499245
My cat is very well groomed, you're just a fool.
>>55499258
You have to go back redditor scum.

What are the cheapie sovereigns these days? I should have bought more Liz Brits when they were dumping them for cheap back in early spring.

>>55499260
Rose gold is disgusting,

How do you calculate a precious metals retirement supplement?

>>55499288
The hair is matted and gross. Your cat needs a bath and probably so do you

>>55499288
No you

>>55499294
Take 10 out of 100 and get 10%

>>55499294

>>55499297
Ok groomer

>>55499210
>not stacking vintage games
ngmi kid

>>55499112

>true price discovery

This is not an argument. Why are people still touting this idiotic stance. Precious metals are hoarded by wealthy because it lets them do shady business untaxed. That's it. It's has no stay of value. Water is more precious than silver and gold. You idiots are just being scammed and schemed or scheming yourselves.

>>55499294
2/2
>>55499297
>matted and gross
It's not, you're just jelly of my pussy. You can buy a pussy, but no matter what you'll never get a real vagina.

>>55499260
they are a 10% copper 90% gold alloy, so there's definitely a copperiness to them. but it's clearly gold, it's not like a 1oz copper round.

>>55499260
they're 8% copper and the older ones develop a patina. also because they're crown gold they won't look as gold as the .999 buffalos and bars and such. i think the alloy is a feature that makes the coins more resistant to damage since pure gold is very soft
my apartheid krug feels like gold in my hand so idk

>>55499297
based cat critic

>>55499260
>FEEL like gold?
Feel certainly, the color is a matter of taste, new fresh ones from the factory can seem a bit odd with a slight rosegold tint, older ones that have been fondled don't look as off. Same for fresh sovereigns.
The bit of copper is much less noticeable in other coins like Kronen, centenario etc.

>>55499334
Holy fucking shit, got em.

hello stacklet here. currently have:
3 oz au
205 oz ag
I was going to spend a little of my crypto stack (~$3k) on some more boomer rocks. Thinking I should do ~40 ag and another 1 oz au. Thoughts?

>>55499403


Sell your stones and all into doge. It hasn't even mooned yet. Once you get a 6000% ror sell and do whatever you want. These threads are full of metal scammers

>>55499403
if you have the means to buy an ounce or two just buy gold.
save silver for when you only have less than a thousand to spend.
i say as i'm about to spend 4k on silver.

>>55499362
fresh-ish sov vs 48yo krug

>>55499403
My experience says buy gold for gains, buy silver for art.

>>55499341
>It's has no stay of value
Of all the idiotic things to say, that was it. Not to mention, not an argument.
If gold/silver have no value, why have they been used as a currency and/or as a store of wealth? This has been the case for several millennia now. Literally since the Varna Civilization in the 4000 BC range.
>Water is more precious than silver and gold.
This is the second dumbest thing you could have mentioned. You can plug in anything as more precious than gold/silver given the right circumstances.

>>55499403
I have about 0.6 eth I’ve been considering selling for shiny but I bought it super low and could see it going much higher even if I don’t believe in crypto anymore. The markets are irrational and there’s a lot of institutional money behind it. If it rugs I’m out like $50, if it goes a lot higher I can buy more shiny when I sell.

Currently have 3.25 Oz au
≈200 oz .999 ag
$225 FV 90%
And some assorted foreign coins (mostly .925)

>>55499334
Kek

>>55499525
It's. Not. Anymore. If it was we would have it backing our currency. Ergo it is worthless. And even if it has a stay of value the elite would never and will never incorporate it into class economics. Your argument is worthless. You cannot drink gold for hydration. In the end you will have 1% of people being weird trying to barter for shit that nobody wants

>>55499579
lmao, gold has no worth but countries hoard it and i could bring my gold to a shop tomorrow and get a market rate for it. it's also why south americans are shaving it off of old spanish churches buy food with.
gold has value because people believe it does, just as they have for all of civilization. when people see a shiny rock they know it's valuable and can be traded. try trading a pack of smokes or a bottle of booze to someone who doesn't smoke or drink. how much value does a specific bottle have? nobody knows. everybody knows that gold is very valuable.

>>55499403
>spend a little of my crypto stack
Spend all of it.

>>55499538
do you have any other crypto or is the eth it? 'd probably just leave what you have as is and add more coins over time with new money

>>55499341
>it lets them do shady business untaxed

Considering CBDCs are right around the corner isn't this a huge benefit?

I don't really like the idea of getting the mark of the beast just so I can buy groceries

>>55499579
Yes. It. Is. In the US and across the globe, the everyday person is waking up to the reality our govts. and banks are killing our economies. What happened earlier this year is a taste of what's to come. When three literally nobody banks are took a shit, the whole country and in part the world saw through the charade. Our first currencies are worthless. Gold and silver are the safe haven as they've always been.
The main reason for why gold/silver no longer are a currency and are no longer backing a currency is due to govt. and banking corruption. Do you not any understanding of US monetary history you dumb fucking nigger?
>You cannot drink gold for hydration.
No. Fucking. Shit. You. Dumb. Jew. That argument, right fucking there, is worthless. Come up with something actually tangible. Jesus. Are you the new IQDELETE? Fucking hell.

>>55499341
>This is not an argument. Why are people still touting this idiotic stance. Precious metals are hoarded by wealthy because it lets them do shady business untaxed. That's it. It's has no stay of value. Water is more precious than silver and gold. You idiots are just being scammed and schemed or scheming yourselves.

It's time to bring out this gif again.

>>55499289
The premium on sovereigns are incredibly tight and right now the price of gold is the cheapest it has been in half a year. Right now is a fantastic time to buy.

>>55499237
>LCS in a tax free state

>>55499436
>>55499478
Yeah the dilemna is that silver is historically undervalued, but at the same time I feel like as a stacklet I should be prioritizing Gold and it's a safer bet hedge.
>>55499538
I only hold an unknown amount of Monero and I use it to buy stuff but I have no interest in selling my cold storage for fiat unless it pops off and then I can buy some property. It's also just money I have stashed away in case I need it. For example, I had to get my dog to the vet and long story short I had some pretty heavy bills so it was nice having Local Monero and using that to cash out some Monero for liquidity and not stress about eating into my savings account (trying to save for a downpayment on a house). PMs are a similar safety net I have lying around.
I agree with the other poster saying you should just get more money for more pms. I don't have ETH but they are one of the only blue chip cryptos out there.
>>55499627
Nope. Monero long term has immense potential and I routinely use my stack to buy stuff on the internet.

>>55499626
>>55499670
>>55499685
>>55499693

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUHHKWqr-xU&pp=ygUTQ2hpY29sYXRlIG9yIHNpbHZlcg%3D%3D

Your arguments are debunked. Nobody even knows what silver and gold is worth. The average Joe would take a big mac over a silver round any second of any day of the week. Even if they did think metal was worth something they would simply take it from you. It has zero value. The world is globalized and once cbdc is rolled out you will literally own nothing except what the government says you have in your bank. Get it out of your skulls that silver and gold will make a false comeback. They won't. It will be lucky to reach 30 even if the usd crashes. Screencap this because I promise you you will only make marginal gains. Instead of doing bonds or mutual funds or even a tsp/ roth you have wasted it on a 1% return. Congratulations. You still can't eat metal.

>>55499685
Enjoy your ban racist antisemitic bitch

>>55499403
>hello stacklet here. currently have:
>3 oz au
>205 oz ag
You're not a Stacklet, you're Roman Tier.

>>55499638
Nah that’s all I have left, which I why I was mostly planning to let it ride.

I still buy shiny when it’s convenient so it’s not really impacting me if I just wait and see.

>>55499737
>The average Joe would take a big mac over a silver round any second of any day of the week

The average joe also got vaccinated, supports Ukraine, and thinks that blacks lives actually matter. What's your point?

>>55499746
actually 5/500 is exactly what I would consider out of stacklet tier. I'm getting close. Generally I spend ~5k on pms each year so I should hit it soon.

It's back on the menu, boys. Too bad I blew my silver money already.

>>55499340
>vintage games
I wish I had screenshots of that. Peak FUD.

When stacking gold, is it better to have variety or just stick to one common coin, like eagles or maples and fill a tube?

>>55499737
>Your arguments are debunked. Nobody even knows what silver and gold is worth.

We do in comparison to other metals, and we know the price of silver and gold is suppressed by paper derivatives.

>>55499818
They are all approximately the same size so you can stack them assorted in a tube if you want

>>55499737
Too long, didn't read. Go fuck yourself you sensitive kike. Get the fuck off this board or fucking kill yourself.

>>55499737
The amount of time spent on fud in this general makes it hard to believe people do it for free

Jannies at least get to pretend they’re god whereas you’re just shouting into the void

>>55499839
Looks like the crystalline osmium-scammers actually manage to convince people that the stuff is so expensive .. not that I'm complaining, owning some for fun, but rather surprising.

>>55499780
Majority wins.

>>55499839
And those paper forms will NEVER disappear.

>>55499877

I'm a champion of truth.

why is monument's price on this so shit? they're usually really good. bold and silvergold bull both easily beat it.

https://monumentmetals.com/2023-5-oz-armenian-silver-noah-s-ark-coin-bu.html


>>55499737
>instead of doing bonds or mutual funds or even a tsp/ roth
>mutual funds or even a roth
you sound like one of those niggers that doesn't even really understand what mutual funds are

>>55499780
This is not exactly true.
The problem society is not fully comprehending is that all of the benefits of economic advancements are getting slurped up by the "owning class". Even though society is becoming incredibly productive, none of that benefits you. What is actually happening is this: corporations are creating MASSIVE economies of scale that confers you the ability to live a working class consumer lifestyle and the rich are slurping up capital.
Consider the pricing of stocks. They are sold in little slices big enough for even plebs to participate. Now, consider just what a pittance most stocks are in comparison to REAL capital which is gold. Compare how little 1 ounce is compared to your monthly wages. Can you afford even 1 ounce after you pay your bills? Most people can not. Their spending power comes in the form of food, entertainment, consumer goods, and some leveraged items such as car and house. All of your savings is also captured by the banks and wallstreet which basically has you funnel all of your work into their paper-ponzi.
If you want to start a business or buy a house the bank can extend you some credit but it ALWAYS comes with the stipulation that it is repaid at interest.
This is the paradigm: everybody plays and everybody pays. Highly trained individuals such as doctors and lawyers are vetted in school selection and are allowed to earn more money and the rest of us enjoy a life of drudgery where saving any money is undermined by high prices and inflation which COMPELS one to chase basis points in the market.

>>55499900
Osmium reacts with oxygen in the air to produce osmium tetroxide. I would either get rid of it or at least vacuum-seal it.

>>55499946
They may only have a few. The concept of having "loss leaders" is common practice. If you could amalgamate every single purchasable item across every grocery store, target, walmart etc and ALWAYS have the best price then no one would make any profit. They have the eyeballs on the website and so capturing high margin sales is always a good way to increase your bottom line.
A good anecdote I have about this is a grocery store I worked at actually made a big deal to the employees about trying to sell "mesh sink strainers" because even at $2 each they were literally 95% profit margin. Getting one of those into a cart is just as important as getting someone to make an impulse buy at the checkout line.

>>55499951
>Consider the pricing of stocks
consider how mind fucked zommlets and other younger millennials will be having these last several years be the start of their investing experience. p/e turbo clownworld. sky high valuations based on earnings that won't materialize for over a decade. buy boring things that pay dividends. we don't even own the shares held in our brokerages like people did when you were actually issued paper shares.

>doctors
and a lot of those niggers don't even make that much. chances are, if you aren't a surgeon or some other specialist, a retard playing with excel sitting in a corporate office is making as much.

t. guy who worked as a developer for a few large medical companies. i got paid as much as some doctors to call people niggers and kikes on 4channel and write some garbage crud apps

>>55499737
I see this lame ass argument all the fucking time i swear these must be shills all reading from the same approved talking points.

>>55499921
>And those paper forms will NEVER disappear.
No, they don't.

>>55499999
checked.
I know a few doctors and it is not uncommon for many of them to leave med school with almost a million dollars in debt.

I have a thesis that I need help developing that much of our economy is essentially an evil math trick. Resources and ownership are a function of exponential functions. Interest, inflation, GDP growth etc. This is actually offset in the fact that you can have infinite growth% and nothing is wrong. But at the same time you can only every lose 100%.
Our spending power for the middle class is carefully managed so as to not allow wages to get too high without taxes structurally putting on the brakes. Cost of healthcare and housing is also there as a major hindrance to soak up your purchasing power so as to not allow you to have access to the time-value of money. Your incentives to save are also schemes to get you to lock up your money until you are 65+ and hopefully you die and even if you do cash it out the taxes come and take a bite. If you can only lose 100% of your money, how many times do percentages take a portion of your money. How many iterations of that need to happen before your purchasing power effectively errodes to nothing more than middle class lifestyles?
I really don't know how better to describe it, but the notion of a "free market" is complete and utter nonsense. These things are carefully constructed so as to not allow people to get their hands on some money, invest it, and then retire at 35. Even healthcare costs are so prohibitive that it basically keeps ALL of us on the cusp of bankruptcy until we can apply for Medicare at 65. If you get sick and can't pay your medical bills you better have you savings tucked away in an IRA anyway EXACTLY where the banks and wallstreet wants it. Otherwise they'll take you to court and seize it all. And don't even think about having cash because the gov will steal that too!

>>55499735
>silver is historically undervalued
This is a /pmg/ meme theme, and has ambiguous meaning. It's probably a poorly-worded version of, "relative how silver was historically valued, it is currently undervalued." But history is not a good comparison, as silver is much more efficiently extracted now. True there is a deficit in production relative to use, but if the price goes up enough silver will be targeted both in mining and recycling more ardently to meet demand. It is speculation and hyperbole to say there's going to be some shortage to cause the price to "moon". And there are adequate substitutes, such as copper for electrical transmission. inb4 "there are some specialized micro-circuitry applications that demand..." Yes, but for those applications where Cu can substitute, that will be done if/when the price/availability of Ag becomes an issue.
Right now, adversaries to the country whose currency is used as a global standard are stacking gold. It is in that way a sort of artificial demand for Au - there's little reason that similarly useful and uncommon elements couldn't be used for a backing, such as tellurium or indium, other than that it has always been so. But economies are kind of built around the notion of gold as the standard, and its distinctive color, resistance to discoloration, malleability, and ease with which is can be used for gilding (thereby feigning ostentatious display of wealth), means this is what we go for, and likely will for the foreseeable future.

>>55497928
>Pic
dokutabased

>>55500285
nothing to do with history
silver is undervalued in terms of today

>>55499478
And your experience is what exactly?

>>55500285
>tellurium or indium
these are toxic you fucking moron

>>55500361
that's probably why they were suggested fren

>>55500285
Sorry but all metals are becoming increasingly scarce and will benefit from a much higher price. If anything happens to the financial markets that would damage the purchasing power of bank credit then these puny stockpiles of metal will get slurped. If your notion that price of materials just goes up sometimes and down sometimes and it will always be available then you are no conception of what is truly happening. Hundreds of trillions of dollars of leverage is going to get ripped from the economy and written off as losses or monetized in the form of printing of cash and we are all collectively going to be materially poorer. It will be a bankrun on capital and commodities as the economic dislocation of 80+ years of malinvestment, and unbalanced trade and credit being the driving force of the global economy which started back in 1983 which is the last time our economy grew sans expansion of credit. If at any point the masses start to walk away from the paper ponzi a forced revaluation will take place because shortages will be actualized and those last to the door will see their purchasing power evaporate. No one alive has personal experience with what is about to happen and suffer from ignorance and normalcy bias.

still currently no high quality rms listed but monday looks to be a double berger day thankfully

>>55500356
>And your experience is what exactly?
A dozen years of bi-weekly (DCA) purchases of both metals, plus occasional Pt, and accurate and complete tracking of each purchase including shipping, classifications by type (coin vs generic), nature (high-premium due to being "art" or limited, antiqued, proof...).

>>55499210

Your participation needed:

Global. Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/433759870

Nothing strange going on here, goyim.

>>55500354
>nothing to do with history
I was referring to the statement that I did not initiate, "silver is historically undervalued", even quoted in my response.
>>55500354
>silver is undervalued in terms of today
And yet it is priced as it is, despite your defiance of reality and ecuses that Joos and trannies are behind everything that defies your conceptions.
>>55500475
>>55500361
>these are toxic
Te yes, In not so much, but point taken. I was careless in being glib
>>55500361
>you fucking moron
You seem triggered. What's your problem?
My point is, gold is a commodity chosen as a basis of value, and alternatives could exist and even *might* (trigger warning - the following may offend you and cause wailing and gnashing of teeth) be supplanted by another commodity, for instance if the "wrong" entities gain too much sway by virtue of having a lot of the stuff.

I did it! I bought my first 1oz of silver, /pmg/. Might post it once it's in my hands.

>>55500631
you did it fren

>>55500554
They spoofed the price up. Tards think silver is being suppressed when it’s natural market price should be $10 an ounce.

>>55500774
take it to /cmmg/

>>55500645
I have it closer to $8. The only reason it’s valued so high is because spergs will pay $30 for an ounce of something that has zero utility, if there were truly a glut, the industry would buy it all up and the price would go up, instead they sell it to retards double benefit is that it keeps them away from gold.

>>55499324
This is not a fair comparison to make because much less silver had been mined and was in circulation during antiquity, hence it was worth more then because there was less of it.

>>55500356
Twelve years is nothing in the history of gold and silver. I stack both. Don't know which will end up being most useful/valuable. But I know they both will ultimately hold value better than USD.

>>55500536
We should trust you because you have vast experience at losing money on silver and gold over a 12 year period? Kektop!

>>55500611
Gold has been money for most of human history for most of the civilized world for reasons inherent in the metal itself. It is not impossible to find a substitute - people under duress almost always find something to use for money. But when they have gold available they use gold.

>>55500855
People also buy stuff with paper and digital numbers that have no utility. What's your angle?

>>55500645
>when it’s natural market price should be $10 an ounce

LOL it should literally be 2$ naturally, imagine the face of stackers when it goes to its natural price, lol lmao

>>55500484
>all metals are becoming increasingly scarce

Hey schizo, if that's true then why are all metals so cheap? Cheaper than ever compared to wages?

>>55499210
Look into Metal (ticker: MTL) folks. Will take of news soon. You've been warned pmg

/pmg/ how closer are you to other stackers IRL? I sucked my stacker boy's PP this week and I never felt closer to the stacking community as I did when he was squirting his stacker boy milk into my mouth. Has your stacking ever lead to romance, anon?

>>55499280
I wish I knew. Apparently it was part of some crypto thing.

>>55500915
>paper
>no utility
Go spend your gold/silver on a hot dog and a soda. You have 1 hour. Good luck.
Hard Mode: No converting it into useless paper

>>55500922
Because bank credit has purchasing power and the bond market hasn't blown up yet.

>>55500922
Flooding of the market due to economical warfare.
Unironically the best time to buy is now.

>>55500945
>economical
This guy gets it

Anyone ready for nothing to happen?

>>55500919
maybe they really do need some sort of age verification here

Flipperchads are protodealers and TAGMI. Collectorvirgins will have their funkos auctioned off for spot minus 20% to scrapchads after their kids auction off their stack. Many such cases.

>>55500922
hey retard, you're assuming pricing, for any asset class, is rational. instead of spamming these worthless posts that don't change anyone's opinion, you could offer up something that wasn't worthless and actually had a chance of doing what you're trying to do

>>55500945
>Silver is worth $1000 an ounce it's very rare we are running out and we need it for everything that's why they sell it to you for $22 cuz ...random schizo ramblings

Does that's really work on you silver scam victims?

>>55500938
are they going to accept any of stock shares or buttcoins? what is the point of this post?

>>55499746
ive seen a few more of these charts floating around, if anyone has em id love to steal em

>>55500967
Nothing is going to happen on the day, it will be rolled out bit by bit to make sure it functions correctly.

>>55501022
I'm a broke poorfaggot with virtually nothing.
I just came in to harvest a feww (Yous) for my garden's compost pile.

>>55500943
>Because paper money real US$ are extremely valuable compared to useless silver shitcoins

Finally some truth from the scam victim

>>55501040
shouldn't you niggers at least be telling people here to sit in treasuries or something like that?

>>55501033
>ive seen a few more of these charts floating around, if anyone has em id love to steal em

>>55500888
Wrong, when you die in a few years your garbage rocks will be sold at yard sale for $3 , but at least you admit you've been wrong for 12 years and lost bigly

>>55501064
Why are you so upset?
Who cares about what anons do/say on a anon message board mostly about suicidal anons with schizophrenia or autism or both?

>>55500967
Yes, the brics spokesman says they have no plans for a currency, that account is run by a premium grabber like Schiff

>>55501064
i took the gold to the local coin shop and sold it that way. sad i sold it. it was like two pounds of guido jewelry

>>55501025
I’m replying on topic to someone who isn’t you. You’re replying off topic to someone who doesn’t want to engage with a tard who buys silver and can’t string together a few thoughts. Go look at yourself in the mirror.

>>55501087
hi

>>55501010
>you could offer up something that wasn't worthless

My message is consistent, don't buy silver it's a scam, #sorrynotsorry you got scammed baggie

>>55501096
Silver sister, rate this man out of 10. Either that towel rack is almost too tall for you, like miniature towel for the miniature man.

>>55501106
you must get awfully upset about your insurance premiums. do you spend a lot of time trolling insurance forums?

>>55501039
>Silver scam victim is poor

Many such cases

>>55501111
i'm only 5'11. feel free to post what you look like. probably have an excuse for some reason tho. willing to beat your faces in person if you'd like

>>55501123
not a single one of you faggots have posted anything showing you have any money at all. you do brag about a whopping 2k gain on a stop that has went up 200% though. clearly, the anti-silver folks are exceptionally well verse with their investments

>>55501123
I can promise you I own no crypto and no silver/gold or any other metal, and have about 400 dollars cash.

>>55501067
Why do you devote your life to convincing incels to lose all their real paper $ on the silver scam? What's your angle?

>>55500636
nice Merida fren
I've bought a single oz for test purposes, as in figuring out how long it takes to arrive and if the dealer I have chosen isn't a scammer. I have a small bonus coming up soon from wagecucking, considering putting it 50% into XMR and 50% into /pm/.

>>55501111
Oofies and checked. I was just about to say chuddie could plap plap my bussy, but then you pointed out the towel bar conundrum.

>>55501124
>his height starts with a 5
It's joever.

>>55501116
What's your problem with insurance? Did you file a claim for all the $ you lost on the silver scam?

>>55501140
You wouldn't understand.

The fact that people don’t use silver in Venezuela and that 10k oz is a professors salary back in Rome kinda make me wanna focus more on gold. The guy who said stack gold and buy artsy silver if you want it was correct.

>>55500931
I want a man to pound my bussy with one of those Scottsdale silver rods

>>55501169
>I make investment decisions based on a meme some broke incel loser made about life 2000 years ago

why is there so much silver fud theses days, wtf is about to happen that the don't want venezuelan cultural enthusiasts to buy silver?

>>55500879
What was the population in antiquity versus today?

>>55500913
Yep. I acknowledge the truth in that.

>>55500913
Agreed.

>>55501176
Would you settle for a regular snickers (Frozen)?

>>55501181
Idk, just seems like gold was worth more back then just like today. I’m not gonna cart around 10k oz of silver. I like the shinies and will buy both but at the end of the day PMs are just a small part of my diversified portfolio and it seems more manageable to have easy to store, useful gold. When you read about Venezuela people are using gold to buy shit not silver

>>55501154
based

>>55501199
FUD is how the scammers convince you to buy silver. Muh brics, muh collapse, muh hyperflation muh Roman soldiers etc

Nobody is going to just sit in threads all day, posting hundreds of posts about how good metals are as an investment, getting into simultaneous arguments with people and making pathetic attempts at memes all day for weeks on end, just out of the goodness of their hearts, to try and help people make a good investment.
There is definitely money behind the FUD shills, they have been employed by coin dealers who want people buying silver, in particular to harvest huge premiums

>>55496347
>Meanwhile you missed out on 4X in the stock market.
I stocks and gold, nigger.
>And no you aren't planning on keeping up with inflation
But I am, $1400 (an ounce of gold in 2013) is worth $1800 in today's money, gold is $1900 an ounce so it actually did out do inflation.

>>55501204
>I want you to do the work
Do your own research, analysis, and then make your point.

>>55501255
Why in gods name do you give a shit?
Seriously let go, of everything not just this thread.

>>55501247
How is 2000 years ago or Venezuela relevant at all? (It's not its all silver scammer FUD), but at least with gold you don't instantly lose 45%

>>55501263
You didn't buy gold in 2013

>>55501270

>>55501270
>2000 years ago
PMs have always had value and you needed a lot of silver to buy stuff then as now
>Venezuela
What happens in the real world when paper currency becomes worthless
And yeah, 2% premium vs minimum 10% is nice as is the fact that I can stick $20k in gold in my pocket while with silver I’d be carrying around 60lb

>>55501299
>when paper currency becomes worthless

You live in Venezuela or zimbabwe?

>>55501268
He shits up every /pmg/
Whatever his motivations for doing so are, it’s not normal and he has some mental disorder. It’s one thing to just pass by and talk a little shit, but to do it so consistently again and again and again. Something abnormal is motivating that

>>55501308
For me?
It's the retard asylum.

>>55501318
Ah makes sense, I just hopped in here because a fren was talking about gold, and I saw this lunatic rambling on.

>>55501308
We could be. That and the fact that it looks cool and I can hold it makes it worth putting a small portion of my NW into. Also modern portfolio theory and muh beta

Silver is trash. I spent $2600 on it 4 years ago and am still down. Meanwhile my gold goes up.

Never buy silver, it’s fucking trash. I’m glad I didn’t spend much like most of these tards here. Just buy gold or platinum group metal, never buy silver. If you want silver buy cheap low premium coins and no more than 50 oz. It’s a dead weight industrial metal and not rare like platinum or palladium.

>>55501318
Kektop! You are butthurt because you fell for the silver scam and obviously you can't defend your poor decision making that made you lose all your real paper $. #COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

>>55501413
arnt you a rare one, oh grizzled stacker

>>55501413
Retards here think paying a 40% premium on silver is super smart and they can'tunderstand why everyonedoesn'tdothat. They are obviously bad at math

>>55501445
You may have lost all your money on the silver scam but at least you still have your racist memes

>>55501413
Show stack.

>>55500888
Nice digits :)

>>55501481
Post your losses baggie

>>55501541
Confirmed shill. STFU.

>>55501560
Lmao how much have you lost on your silver shitcoins?60%? 87%?

Is there a better place than eBay to buy Soviet Kopeks? All the ones are eBay are shipping from Ukraine.

>>55501463
How is $2 40% of $23?
>They are obviously bad at math
(You)

>Jew shills suddenly out of the wood work to FUD precious metals as just as the News breaks about BRICS

Not a coincidence

>>55501665
>All the ones are eBay are shipping from Ukraine

>>55501413
Seen this copy pasta posted multiple times just today on /pol/ lol

Definitely a concerted effort

>>55501750
Yeah, and it takes 2 months to maybe get it if it even ships before the nukes go off.

>>55501760
Whatcha doing there rabbi?

>>55501806
nothing

somebody copied what i posted here and pasted it there

>>55501824
Why are you in a thread about gold/silver saying the same shit? I swear the same bot that says 64% premium is in there with you too, under the silver sister flag.

>>55501767
So what? Were you planning on trading some obscure junk silver coin with a bunch of cyrillic gibberish on it for a loaf of bread in the next six weeks?

>>55501833
Yes it is, it's been in every thread regarding that topic. Everyone here knew this was coming but /pol/ has been freaking out about it since it was announced.

And as we know any discussion regarding PM's draws shills like flies to shit.

>>55501833
Look at how these scammers >>55501760 get triggered when I point out that paying a 62% premium on a commodity is a terrible investment

Silver is literally the worst scam of all investments

>>55501847
>trading my silver for food

You just don't get it.

>>55501899
No you don't get it, why does shipping matter unless you're going to turn around and sell it immediately?

>>55501990
He's a silver scam victim who needs a fix just like a heroin addict he knows its bad for him but he can't help destroying himself

Notice how the pilpul’ers make wild and demonstrably false claims, then just ignore getting called on them
Ignore the shills, stack medals. PMs make the right elements of society seethe. Simple as.

I've rarely seen such a retarded level of silver fud kek. 30 fudposters out of 50 unique IDs ITT?
Totally normal and organic in a general dedicated to precious metals!

Funny it's happening right now..

Anyone have the graphs of countries gold and silver reserves showing how Russia would have been able to Gold back the Ruble like 5 years ago.

>>55502111
I like historical and artsy silver, just prefer gold for stacking. Simple as.
Next on the silver list are Jesus Clearing the Temple 10oz bar and a silver Hadrian
Next for gold is a gold Brit

>>55502111
Yep, FUD is what the scammers use to push the silver scam and fleece the sheeple. Baaaaaaaaaa

I’m so close to pulling the trigger bros….

>>55502318
I’m drunk and would pull the trigger if it weren’t gonna arrive while I was on vacation

>>55502318
>heckin picklerickarino

>>55502318
>>55502328
If this is tempting you, might I recommend pulling the trigger of gun pointed at your head?

>>55502318
You will be able to buy a house with it some day

>>55502369
You can but I won’t. Might I offer the same for your pedophile cartoon image?

>>55502385
What about that image is pedophilic? Sounds like you're projecting your sexual desires anon

>>55502369
>this level of smugness
Dang, what's the sauce? Xenoblade? Fire Emblem? Ys? Legend of Heroes?

>>55502385

>>55502407
Kikes like you can't use memes properly, you stand out like a sore thumb.

>>55502378
Thanks for the encouragement! I did it bros!

>>55502425
Kek, based

>>55502425
Based

>>55502425
What will your children think when they find this in 40 years after you die?

>>55502440
>>55502458
>>55502501
Are you 'tarded or what? Obviously he didn't buy it. This jew spent 17 posts only shitting on silver itt and you think he'd buy a soied overpriced silver meme? Jesus...

>>55501033
At 21.2ozt silver per year, 1272 ozt silver is needed to not have to lift a finger for 60 years.

We're gonna make it, guys.

>>55502396
Shaniablade 3

Also, crypto nerds will seethe.

>>55502509
I fud sometimes when I'm desperate for cheapies

>>55502509
Here’s my token. See you when it arrives schizo.

>>55502458
I love my silversisters! Transistion metals are based! Transitioned stackers are based! Is there anything more redpilled that taking ownership and control of your wealth and your body? I don't think so.

>>55502578
I am my own bank, my own doctor, my own endocrine system

>>55502501
They'll think "wow, my mom is based"

>>55502536
>Shania
Fuck i truly have a terrible memory, i watched the game movie of Xenoblade 3 like 2 weeks ago and i already forgot about this poor soul..
Now i get why you used this pic kek.

Got my first bar of silver. Looks neat and is nice to hold

>>55502501
I think most kids will question just how degenerate their millennial parents were in these times.

>>55502501
It will be gone and they will be living in “The House That Pickle Rick Built”

>>55502745
Silver stackers are all incels they won't ever breed it will be their mommy that donates their shittokens to goodwill

>>55502589
Unfathomably based.

>>55502637
You didn't actually play Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna ~ The Golden Country, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, and Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Future Redeemed? Anon...

>>55502734
Was is wrapped in plastic when you got it?

Can we permaban the troonshine brigade? I don't care if it slows down the general. Their butt parasites still haven't been eradicated from the purifying power of silver and hearing their awful opinions ITT is literally giving me AIDS.

>>55502950
>whining about people he doesn't like being able to post on 4chan
Return to reddit, o pitiful refugee

Check out my sterling silver necklace :)

>>55502839
Yes

>>55502962
>Check out my necklace

>>55503041
Why'd you omit "sterling silver" from your quote? Coping?

>>55503081
Because it wasn’t part of the joke

>>55503041
https://files.catbox.moe/a669ky.png

Hey I wanted to tell you guys you can get 1957 and 1958 proof sets for pretty cheap, they have 85 cents face value of 90% silver but also those years have proof Wheat Pennies which look sick, way better than the lame memorial design
>>55499340
I have over $14,000 worth of Nintendo games including imports collector's editions and CIB games all of which are in protective media for better preservation and I'm going to tell you right now you're in idiot to stack anything but silver for the future

>>55502734
Good. Asahi makes some of the best looking bars.

>>55502734
Based and Asahi pilled, desu

>>55503041
Based

>>55502962
YWNBAW and your gash smells like shit.

>>55499340
I wonder if they'll maintain their value when millennials are all gone. Now that you can emulate practically anything for free and zoomers won't have nostalgia for physical media.

>>55499294
you need 1 oz of silver for every day you plan to live

>>55503307
How many pickle ricks do I need to make it?

>>55503302
Their value is fueled by nostalgia. Same thing with boomers and certain cars. The value of both will collapse with the death of those who care.

>>55503329
Looks like cat anons house. Is this cat #2?

>>55503307
Probably less than that, but an ounce a day would be a "king shit" tier lmao.
>>55503316
Same amount as regular silver kek.

>>55503299
I have a shrunken little bitty pp that flops around lewdly while you fuck me, not a gash uwu

>>55503341
Stop trying to dox me you twat.

>>55503316
A dozen

>>55503316
You need to 3D print a custom tube and fill it with 25. Then you also have to get a pickle Rick tattoo.

>>55503400
Now replace those shreks with pickle ricks, that’s gotta be living the dream right there.

>>55503400
The backs are blank so you could have them laser engraved: "I turned myself into a pickle rick! --Anon" and since it's a pretty limited release your name would live forever in numismatic infamy

>>55503290
Asahi's minimalist design is very nice. I just wish there was a Japanese government mint as well.

>>55502950
No chuddie. You can't just make new rules for 4channel. Is that how you do it on reddit? Go suck a barrel.

>>55502962
Amen. Redditfags are so sensitive. I guess they're used to their safespaces and didn't know tranners are all over this site. Always have.

>>55503352
Samesies. The stacker boy I was with this week had a big PP and I love seeing how much bigger boys are than me uwu. We shop at the same same LCS and are on a first name basis with all the staff. Looking forward to coin shopping with him.

>>55503329
This picture is wild. It's like your cat's nose and mouth are facing a different direction than the skull & eyes. Does your cat have down syndrome? Optical illusion? Digital camera lag? Is it just ugly?

>>55503500
>>55503352
I want a “silver sisters” round desu.

>>55503592
I'm dying for some silver sisters rounds, would definitely pay 2-4x what a typical round goes for lol

>>55503590
I noticed it too, wasn’t going to say anything and just leave it be. He loves his cats. It’s a beautiful tabby and if it had imperfections like shown in photo, It would at to its charm, given it had a good personality to boot.

>>55503602
Think Scarface peace dollar.

>>55503592
There are enough silver stackers on /lgbt/ who don't use /biz/ that a limited production run could be economically viable, I made a couple tranny treasures threads there and a ton of girls posted pics. An enterprising woman with 3 grand in USD to risk could make it happen

>>55503604
I just got one of those in the mail today actually. It was cheap since the scar wasn't that pronounced yet.

>>55503592
>>55503622
That would be so cool. Imagine the eternal seethe from /pmg/ chuds. What would be the obverse and what would be the reverse?

>>55499260
Yeah, they're dense as hell compared to copper.

are mint tubes bad for storage? should i get this for maple leafs? https://www.onfireguy.com/coinsafe-square-coin-storage-tubes-for-1oz-silver-rounds-medallions/

>>55502787
>In this house, Pickle Rick is a hero, end of discussion.

one asteroid

let that sink in

>>55499260
Feels good mane

>>55503733
The tubes themselves shouldn't really matter if they're stored in a well sealed safe or box. I have my coins in an ammo box that's sealed with an o-ring and is waterproof up to a few feet that hangs out in my safe with my guns and cash. Going any further than that to protect silver is just being autistic.

>>55503815
just wondering, i think someone here said coins can turn green from pvc in tubes. so i thought coinsafes would be good

>>55503853
I've never heard of coins going green. The main things to look out for are milk spotting or scratches and wear from finger fucking your stack all the time.

>>55503853
>>55503894
The old pvc plastic flip holders could cause pic related to happen. Newer flips and tubes are safe.

>>55502950
Agreed, maybe we should make them a general for them to just circle jerk in. Might keep em out of here.

>>55503694
Anime girls with silver bars standing back to back triumphantly? With various symbols and decoration and "silver sisters" and any good round has purity/year/weight, ideally in ozt & grams
We can also put /pmg/ & 4chan iconography on it of course

>>55503989
Holy crap, that's horrible.
But... that's not 999 silver, right? So is it possible that what turned green is the copper?

>>55503989
>Newer flips and tubes are safe.
ah okay thanks anon

>>55503989
This looks like old flux residue on a piece of copper.

>>55504043
It's an acidic reaction that pits the metal, it happens to copper the fastest but it will also happen to silver, gold, and platinum just at a slower rate.
>>55504046
No problem

>>55504040
I will buy at least 10 of these

>>55504043
Sorry just realized I didn't really answer your question, it won't effect pure bullion silver and gold coins, just alloyed silver, gold, and platinum coins. So a gold Buffalo would be fine but a gold eagle could be damaged. Pic related is small damaged spot on gold.

>>55504040
>this is what the feds have to resort to
lol

I love Apmex

>>55504122
I love Comex
Pmg
Jpm
Moms
The Fed
Asteroid mining
BANKS
LANDlords
US$
Real paper silver
Boomers/Mike Rowe
Not getting scammed on fake physical shitcoins/premiums

>>55504117
Another big win for real paper gold and silver.....I'm getting real tired of all this winning please make it stop

>>55504161

>>55504161
Real paper deteriorates pretty fast. Put a piece of paper in water, see how fast it falls apart.

>>55504184
I just print another one.....let's see you try that with your fake physical shitcoins

W


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W


W W W. W

>>55504118
>denial

>>55504200
>I just print another one

>>55504208
If there's inflation then why is silver going down?

>>55502950
Feel you bro, why do they have to ruin every single thing they touch with their pus filled axe wound?
And how come there are so many of them on 4chin while i never saw one irl?? (Ok i saw exactly one irl in Beijing, and he was passing - would legit never have been able to tell if it wasn't for the voice, but asian soft facial features + tiny frame + next level chink surgeons are helping big time i suppose-, unlike the unibro backliners neanderthal troons over here).

I don't even care about trannies, it's how they make every little thing they do daily always related to their mental illness who's so annoying. It's pushing attention whorism to levels i thought were unimaginable few years ago.
I never mentioned once my sexual orientation on /pmg/ since 2018 even though i post on a daily here. Because nobody cares and my dick is in no way influencing how shiny rocks are shiny or rocks.
So why do they feel the need to constantly rub it on everybody's face while nobody gives a fuck??

>>55504223
>If there's inflation then why is silver going down?
That's exactly what happens bro. The more abundant something becomes the lower its value goes.

You
seem
to
be
mal
func
tion
ing

>>55504223
Because your boss is manipulating the price downward with real ethereal paper silver.

Speaking of shinies, pic rel just showed up in the mail. That was weird to hold somebody's else (dead?) silver tooth in my hand.
Terrific deal otherwise, i think i got it cheap bcuz it was titled "only silver items" while the US quarters are dated from the 90s, so it must have spooped some potential buyers.

But everything beside the US change turned out to be legit silver, so i messaged the seller and asked him to refund me the US coins at the weight's prorata i bought the lot for, and he obliged.

And in bonus, it turned out 2 of the coins are carrying a bit of numismatic value : the 100 bulgarian Leva from 1930, and a rare year for a 2 Francs Céres.

Speaking of deals, if a fren is interested, an auction i was following was put back in immediate sale after the buyer desisted.

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/285371247209

13x 10F Turins, .680 french junk. 10gr each, so that's close to 3oz at 17.2€/oz (4€/oz below spot).
May the fastest fren win!

>>55504225
>no one cares
>posts an entire essay about trannies in Beijing
Kek, just stop seething that's all you have to do

>>55504312
I'd clearly be less pissed about US trannies if you were hot instead of looking like cro-magnon clowns.

>>55504278
Nice collection of garbage from some boomers sock drawer

>>55504349
Do you think the tooth was property of your great-gramp, IQ? If so, i promise to melt it down following kosher rituals.
All i have to do is to rub my hands frantically while wearing a psycho smile, correct?

>>55504331
Tranny prettiness is largely correlated to rules, regulations, and social expectations around access to HRT. The most feminine trannies in the world typically come from places like Thailand where estrogen can be bought over the counter just like alka-seltzer or tums. Nightmare trannies are usually starting late and/or being given pathetic dosage schedules by doctors. In 30 years, don't be surprised when places like Tennessee and the UK have hideous trannies who hated themselves and transitioned at 40 and blue states, Canada, Australia have youngshit trannies who started HRT ages 14-25

>>55504413
Stop grooming kids

>>55504430
Never

>>55504413
You can't escape your hon fate, even the twinks become undoubtably masculine over the age of 30.

>>55504784
Is that what /pol/ told you? Here's computer scientist Lynn Conway at age 68. Trans women don't hit menopause

>>55501445
Holy shit that ranking metric is awesome!
Did you maek it?

>>55499260
I only got a 2R, and that definitely looks golden.
>>55499344
>they are a 10% copper 90% gold alloy,
I'm not too good at metallurgy, but it's very weird. How can the same alloy (in this case, 90/10) look so coppery in the Tscherwonetz, whereas the 2R and Babenberger look almost as golden (but also different between each other) as the 999 Wiener?

>>55504795
>Trans women don't hit menopause
That's because they don't live long enough usually.

>>55504987
>Post some stuff, expecting to have to skim like 40 more posts
>Oh, wow, we're moving faster again? Maybe a few more regulars finally returned?
>Oh, fuck.
>IQDELET and the "sisters" are at it again.
I guess we can't just have nice things.
(Except for our silver and gold).

>>55502950
This.

>>55499805
>>55503157
>>55503302
Silver is my primary stack.
also acquiring certain valuable tracts of raw Land

>>55503329
Nice cat stack. I have a great fondness for old Canadian Coins.
Nostalgia is half the reason why I love to stack old Silver coins of any kind, US Junk, and 80-% Canadians

>>55505139
>valuable tracts of raw Land
Nice

>Mom inherited land from her dad
>The land is in a rural area far from the cities and she hasn't bothered getting a lawyer to claim the land after my grandpa died
Feels awful. Not that she's just letting the land sit there but that she doesn't care about one of the few things her dad left for her. He immigrated to Germany during the 60s and worked and saved money over several years to buy that land for his family and my mom just ignores his self sacrifice.

>>55505246
Most women are incapable of gratitude. To them it's normal -even their duty- for men to sacrifice everything to please their desiderata.

wtf i accidentally won the auction on those minuscule Gallic silver shitcoins.
Idk how to feel about it yet..

>>55505022
You will always have your cardboard box of failure

bought a 5 reichsmark coin for the memes guys. cant wait for it to arrive. i'm gonna make it!

>>55505372
It's a big windmill one at least, right freund?

>>55505372
Buy a kilo bar, less premium.

>>55505383
5RMs are well worth the extra premium tho.

>>55505022
You can't have a nice thread and be pro sound money. That's just the life we chose.

>>55499210
Any thoughts on BRICS? Will we be proven right soon?

>>55504040
This is neat

>>55505464
>BRICS
BRICS is bullshit. None of them have anywhere near the financial stability that the dollar has. Are you going to trust South Africa? They can't even keep the lights on and water flowing. Russia or China? Kleptocracies. India and Brazil? Wake me up when they have flush toilets.

>>55505516
But autocratic governments can wield power even if the populace is suffering. The US will continue ruining the dollar to please its population of ingrates and degens.

>>55505546
>The US will continue ruining the dollar to please its population of ingrates and degens.
The "elite" are the degenerates and they are looting the country

>>55505516
Are you going to trust the dollar? The took everyone's gold and abandoned the gold standard, they removed silver backing, they have done nation wide PM confiscation, they have printed trillions, banks have just shut thier doors and turned off atms and bank apps cutting people off from thier funds, banks have even cut of access because they didn't like what some people said when they exercised thier free speech, brokers have cut off access to buy and sell stocks. The US gov, banks and brokers have been caught in countless scandals, fraud, etc. Dont get me started on the wars that are at their root about maintaining dollar dominance. Every fear you have about BRICS, the dollar has done just as bad or worse. At least BRICS is trying to go back to being back to a PM standard.

>>55505464
BRICS is a meme

>>55505516
>BRICS is bullshit.
This. India and China have as military conflict going on right now. India joined an alliance with the US and Japan against China and Pakistan joined an alliance with China against India.

>>55505464
It's called that because it makes Western bankers and fat cats shit BRICS. Nothing says stability and sound money like that growing basket of 3rd world countries. BRICS+ will grow in power and number, just as the LGBTQQIA+2SPNB has. Give it say... two weeks and BRICS will eat our lunch. Mark my words, it's the beginning of the end of the petrodollar, and semetic folx are panicing, looking for enough runway for a crash landing from their doomed ponzi scheme.

Also laughing at the blubber buttbabies ITT, crying that tranners are stackers. The hypocrisy and double standards they live by are truly pathetic. It's truly laughable how they fail to see it. It brings me great pleasure knowing that everything in their world will get worse for them due to their the mal-adjusted and hateful world views. Everything they once loved will disappear because "icky trans and gay people like it too". I don't feel sorry for your losses - I celebrat them. Feel free to leave like the other chuds have. Don't let the door hit your asses Felicias.

fresh Sunday morning bread
>>55505699
>>55505699
>>55505699

>>55505689
Hey anon I am for a pm backed currency. I think the U.S should have went back to it a long time ago.

>>55505516
Missing the point entirely, of course. It is not about trusting the BRICS. I don't. They are all from the same class of thieves as is the American government. But I DO trust gold. And I trust that the BRICS will do what is in their best interest. At the moment, their best interest is in issuing a trustworthy alternative currency to the FAILING USD. How do they make a currency trustworthy? The same way the USD initially gained trust - by being truly backed by PMs.

The fact that the BRICS are a coalition of governments that don't even trust each other actually works in favor of gold. They can't trust each other not to print unbacked currency so the only thing that can hold them all accountable to each other is real precious metal money.

And, to reiterate, the worse off the BRICS are economically, the more likely they form an agreement for a new trade currency and the less trustworthy they are the more likely the new currency must be gold. Picrel illustrates the point.

>>55505731
Well said anon.

>>55505731
>But I DO trust gold. And I trust that the BRICS will do what is in their best interest.
The BRICS buck will be a CBDC. China will control all the money in your bank and all you'll have is a "promise" that the CBDC is backed by gold.

>>55505731
Sovereigns are so damn kino.

>>55505779
If this is a currency for trade it will be settled in gold, physical bullion, at the end of the year. At least between countries.
At the level of your average Chinaman or Russian not much changes.

ok so hwo come none of you nerds are talking about platinum?
it's been going down for the past 5 years but going up for the past 5 months, doesn't that mean that now is the time to buy since that was the dip and now it will go up for a while?

1>>55506679
hello newtard
welcome to /pmg/
now lurkmore, or get out

>>55504987
>I'm not too good at metallurgy, but it's very weird. How can the same alloy (in this case, 90/10) look so coppery in the Tscherwonetz, whereas the 2R and Babenberger look almost as golden (but also different between each other) as the 999 Wiener?

Coin alloys can be three metals with the base metals at different percentages.

>>55505829
It's a good inflation reminder to know that these were worth £1 110 years ago.
You dont have that with quarter ounces

>>55504117
>it won't effect pure bullion...
Thanks - makes sense.

Anyone know why the 4 looks strange on this 1848 franc