/biz/ - Business & Finance

Nothing ever happens!

We love our constitutional silver don't we folks

>>55479053
We do!

>>55479008
i wish gold was as cheap as it was when i started working.
but hell at some point i'm going to look back and remember when gold wasn't the price of a new car.

Little guess game : considering picrel weights 324gr (10oz), how much silver does the flask contains?
Not that i'd want to melt it down anyway because it's a beautiful object, but i'd like to have few guesses from the frens.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>55479103

>>55479103
4oz

>>55479092
I bought a lot of Krugs when gold was about $1200/oz. This was when /pmg/ first started back in 2018,

>>55479133
Nice, you are only down 42% after inflation and risk free opportunity cost.

>silver scam
>/pmg/ flooded with bots.
TOP KEK
Remember everyone, $46BN silver and gold market in a $122BN premium grabbing scheme. Pair that with the supply/demand of silver which can easily produce a whopping 1800M worldwide, which is enough to procure 43 pounds for every AMERICAN. Per person on the planet you get a piece of silver roughly the size of an apple, when the demand for silver approaches zero. Look up the famous Mark Dice video. L to the MAO. The global silver system is a PONZI and it requires you to work tirelessly to pay premiums and store your metal in an expensive safe while paying 0 interest and dividends. It hasn't a chance in hell in providing you with the life the shills promise you. Your insurance, SS, etc are all pools of resources that have already been spent. Finance and accounting can NEVER create wealth on their own, and no amount of finagling will allow you to spend money EIGHTY times. All that the silver-ponzi has left to do is monetize the losses/default. Or in other words, actualize losses. That's why they shill garbage rocks to you 24/7/365. And there is no way to move the losses around on a balance sheet without someone who is not (you) footing the bill. All they can do is charge exorbitant premiums. And to avoid the losses you have to avoid so called precious metals, including gold, silver and copper,

>>55479133
>when /pmg/ first started back in 2018
man, the cheapies back then... i wanna go back.
But i don't want to go back to /pmg/ archiving after 8 posts because of lack of frens.

>>55479103
Zero, lmao that looks like it was made yesterday that glass is brand new and you bought it at TJ Crapz. You retards fall for every ruse and flimflam

>>55479133
basado

>>55479103
Looks like 20th century Siamese/Thai silver, maybe ~90%, I guess about 2 ounces of pure?

>>55479053
Let's see it fully freed!

Frens, I just checked my vaults. I'm only 1ozt gold and 250ozt silver away from being Coinvivor and officially "making it" as far as /pmg/ is concerned.

I'm gonna make it this year. And you will too.

Post tier, and ignore >>55479164.

>>55479255
Here she is. Very beautiful colors that you can't see through the plastic.

>>55479088
Hell no this coin is not for fondling. I figure it's worth at least $800 but I will have to see after I submit it to PCGS.

>>55479175
Eh, you gotta start somewhere. But early /pmg/ was comfy af and about half of the first dozen threads made it over 100 posts.
>>/biz/thread/11284988

>>55479280
Pirate Tier, comfy but could be better

Keychain is for flexing

Help, I don’t even believe in silver but I can’t stop buying these birbs

>>55479280
The posts are starting to get so nonsensical I've only been skimming it for comedic value. I completely lost the plot of what he was trying to say in that last one.

Coin

>>55479358
Well, that’s not iqdelete.
>t. Textual profiler autist

>>55479389
Post other side for everyone, I believe it is supposed to be euro denominated.

Gold and cash recovered by Russian police in Prigozhin's compound

>>55479421
>US taxpayers' money spent to destroy Putler will soon fuel the russian's central bank gold reserves
ho the irony..

Check out my new sterling silver necklace, the chain is sterling silver as well

>>55479421
Lmao, no silver, no BRICs currency? Kektop! Silvertards btfo. USD is king and always will be

>>55479398

>>55479438
I need to know if they make these smaller, they look so badass and I want one

>>55479346
Very nice! You're gonna make it. Keep on stacking. Even if it's just ten ounces of silver a month, by this time next year you'll have doubled your treasure pile and reached Conquistador.

>>55479444
Imagine your entire personality revolving around your sexuality and never having sex.
The tranny conundrum kek.

one asteroid mined and its game over

>>55479523
Thank goodness such an event is less likely than mankind nuking itself out of existence.

>>55479481
They do not make 1000g gram bars smaller.

>>55479460
>>55479389
Whoa. Super good photography.
Can you describe your setup?

>>55479444
Sweet repeating digits have blessed your based necklace, silversister.

>>55479280
>coinvivor

>>55479667
You know what I meant.

I got a Scarface Peace dollar for like $30 but I assume it's only the condition that makes them worth thousands. Still neat to have.

>>55479678
www.Bing.com

>>55479825
>ID: poor
it's over

>>55479913
Very unfortunate ID. I should probably stop buying this stuff and focus on moving out of my parents' house and buying my own.

>>55479512
t. alcoholic who wasted a ton on a sterling flask

>>55479941
You are buying a house for the coin dealer! So nice I won't even mock you for losing all your money in an obvious scam

>>55479955
Nice try, but all wrong. I never drink alcohol and the flask isn't mine.

>>55479941
>moving out
That's a nice way to stay poor

The more you know......

Coin dealers make money by hiring shillbots to spread FUD, and charging exorbitant premiums. that is their scam. Silver is bought cheaply from JP Morgan which happily offloads the outdated currency when the dealers shift into a shilling mode 9000. The "Silver" is created when the price of the coin from JP Morgan is added to the balance of that central bank after the dealer buys it. The coin dealer must pay it back at interest, and they themselves are allowed to charge out or "sell" several times this amount of silver at premiums to the buyers, AKA the shillees. Hence the 6 week delivery times, or float in industry parlance, of silver sold at "fair" premiums. The overall object is not even so much to make money. money (or rather, usury) is simply a tool by which they attempt to control the general public. the fed is a private organization and has private shareholders and very profitable and desires to continue existing. By deactivating the victims from taking effective actions against the FED they achieve this goal.

>>55479955
>anger

>>55479976
So in other words you're posting other people's stuff. Since we're playing armchair psychologist what should I read into that? That you have a small stack?

Can we talk about platinum and Neural implants? Wrong board?

Check it

>>55480220
>So in other words you're posting other people's stuff.
Any problem with that?
>what should I read into that? That you have a small stack?
Any problem with that too?

If this is supposed to be some kind of shaming tactic, let me tell you this is not very effective.

>>55479523
If mining an asteroid for gold and silver has become an economically viable option, then I've already won.

>>55480329
If your opinion was valuable then you and every other buyer of silver shitcoins wouldn't be sitting on ginormous bags of failure (Yuge Losses)

filter bots, simple as

Buy silver, filter your money to the coin dealers simple as!

Here's a guy trying to get some info about coins. I'm too tired to respond to his post but maybe another anon could.
>>55480333

>>55480669
Already referred to him here, I ain't an expert on Morgans, but maybe some of you here are

>>55479421
>no silver
Oh no no no
What’s going on here silverbros?

>>55479523
>>55479659
I am not sure what you mean
I would love to have enough gold and silver to use as ACTUAL currency again and not the gay paper note shit
besides, using gold and silver will only become more necessary if humans want to expand into space, electronics and industries that use gold or silver wiring and components demand it
It won't be "game over" it will be "hell fucking yeah gold and silver for everyone
Gold and silver is not valuable because it is rare, that is retard thinking
Gold and silver is INHERINTLY valuable as a chemical element and it's critical uses beyond currency, having them used as a currency was merely convenient and would probably become convenient once more if gold and silver becomes abundant again
ass long as there is civilization, there will always be demand for precious metals since every critical infrastructure uses them

How much should i pay max for this pile of roman bronzes if i want a great deal?
About 50 coins.

>>55479350

>>55480533
Very comfy treasure fren. The old 5F/thaler/ecu/5mark format is the best. You truly feel rich while fondling them.
Do you have a favorite one?

I bought four of these 10 DM coins for 50€.
Three more 5 DM silver coins are on their way.

Am I doing this right, guys?

how long would you predict that premiums on metal you bought will be offset by the spot price, for simplicity just think of an ounce of silver or gold since fractional and other metal premiums vary a lot more

>>55479523
So far bringing back 0.1 gram of asteroid on earth costed us a combined $800,000,000 + $300,000,000 via the mission Hayabusa1 & 2. And it was dirt.
Considering a similar abundance ratio than on earth (0.003ppm = part per million), we'd need to bring back x300,000,000,000 the amount we managed to secure with Hayabusa's spaceships to make an ounce of gold.

$1,200,000,000 x 300,000,000,000 = 3,6e+20 USD/oz with the current technology availible.
That's 360,000,000,000,000,000,000 dollaridoos/oz. To put it in perspective anon, this number is so large it's impossible to put it in perspective.

So i think mining on earth will be our only option for a little while. Like probably until the extinction of mankind.

>>55480971
Very comfy treasure fren. The old 5F/thaler/ecu/5mark format is the best. You truly feel rich while fondling them.
Do you have a favorite one?

Thanks fren, I really like them all. Although the Maria Theresia Thaler does give pirate vibes, especially the circulated ones

>>55481044
the furthest a manned craft has gone is around the moon, which is laughable in terms of how big space could be, it's just a tech bro dream to mine asteroids.

>>55481020
Depends, do they have any numismatic value?
If the answer is no, you should know 10DM coins contain for 6,64€ of fine silver at spot value. So you paid 50€ for 26,56€ worth of spot silver. Which isn't really comfy. At all.

But i'm no familiar with those commemorative coins, you should check their mintage individually on Numista and see if some are sought after by collectors.

>>55481044
>>55481090
This it isn't feasible with current tech

>>55481086
That's be my pick too, the coat of arms side is among the most badass design ever made for a circulating coin.
Imagine if Maria was hot instead of a post-walled fat blob, it probably would be the best coin in existence.

>>55481020
what years are they? seems alright if they're 1998+ that are .925

>>55481098
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/germany-federal-republic-10-mark-km-195-1998-cuid-1129288-duid-1318538

>>55481098
how reliable are their rarity scores

>>55481098
The current spot value seems to be slightly higher, approximately ranging between $30 and $35. However, to be honest, it's not a significant improvement. Additionally, the price of individual coins varies, generally falling between $10 to $14, depending on the specific coin.

Any tips for the future? I am new to this.


>>55481155
1998 - Peace of Westphalia
2001 - Federal Constitutional Court
both .925

1997 - Heinrich Heine and Diesel Engine
both .625

>>55481166
nice!

now sure how these prices compare to where you're looking. i've had a bunch of these coins in my cart for a couple of weeks now.

https://www.ma-shops.com/shops/maCategory.php?catid=413&yearstart=1998&ajax=4b47

>>55481178
Holy shit thanks anon! I must admit, I feel overwhelmed and confused by the abundance of information available. My primary objective is to just stack them and forget about them until I need the money. Should I buy something else?

>>55481155
>>55481166
Ah you went faster than me, still collected the links if interested :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15119.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15116.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15124.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15410.html

>Any tips for the future? I am new to this.
You need to tell us what you are looking for first.
Are you interested in just weight above all else, do you want a specific format (coin, bar..), do you want something carrying numismatic value too? etc..

>>55481166
Basically the way you win is pay a huge premium (lose lots of money). Then you brag about it here, buy more lose more, etc repeat ad nauseum. That's the only way to gain the respect of the shills, incels and other assorted losers that buy and shill and fall for for the silver scam. Good luck. We are all rooting for (against) you

>>55481203
Honestly, weight above all. The format does not matter too much.

>>55481031
6 months ago everyone knew for a fact that 60% premiums on shitrocks would be recouped in 2 weeks.

>>55481163
100% subjective. It's only based on numista's registered accounts' collections.
Some coins are considered staples, because they are sought after and nice looking, so everybody on numista have them, even though they are relatively rare for the common people. Like Vatican's silver coins.

On the other hand, nobody gonna bother posting a 2 cents eurocoin from 2014 minted at 18 quadrillions examplars, because it's shit and nobody cares. So it may show a higher rarity score.

But overall they give a decent idea on what's sought after, and what is truly rare. If you end up with a 90+ score, you most likely have in your hands a very rare coin by any metric. Doesn't necessarly mean it will fetch tens of Ks, the liquidity can be quite limited, but still, you probably have a winner.

>>55481223
Then it's time for you to become a sniper.
On ebay. And load up on all kind of silver lots most ppl aren't looking after.
Picrel for example, i paid 60 bux for it 2 weeks ago, weights 190gr of .925. That's 10€/oz of fine silver.

That's what i like to target. We have a super sniper here : Scrapbro, he'll show you deal you wouldn't believe your eyes.

>>55481256
First of all, thank you anon! How do I know that I am buying real silver?

Also was the amount I paid normal, okay or overprieced?

>>55481031
Depends on when you buy and sell. Spot price was $26 a few months ago which is higher than most of the silver I bought, even with premiums on top. But I don't really care because only a retard would sell at this point, let alone for spot when even coin shops give you way more than spot. As far as I'm concerned spot price is fake and gay and it's only going to become faker and gayer as time goes on.

>>55481274
You are welcome.
Most countries have what we call hallmarks, which are tiny official marks you'll find on every item made out of precious metal which prove the origin, the metal/alloy used and it's purity.
Here you have a very nice resource for it :
https://www.silvercollection.it/index.html

Don't buy anything who isn't displaying any hallmark, or hallmarks you didn't manage to identify. Because marks exist also for pretty much everything, and you'll end up buying plated shit more often than not.
A lot of ppl are putting plated stuff on sale thinking it's in silver. They aren't necessarly scammers, just ignorants. So don't trust the titles.
Knowing your keywords will help you a lot to target more accurately silver items at first. Like the name of the marks of your country, "sterling", "lion passant", "minerve", etc..

But you might not want to bother with having to deal with a smelter and all. If so the frens here will redirect you toward the cheapest resellers online, like https://www.acheter-or-argent.fr.. Then it's up to you to be patient and wait for a slurping opportunity, when the spot price dip low enough for your tastes.
You can also find great deal for coins on ebay, but the battle is often more fierce than for old spoons, broken bowls or forks. Look after the lots, because it's not rare that ppl are too lazy to do the maths between all the coins displayed to see what price is a good deal.

>>55481316
Based and silver pilled! Thank you

>>55481327
Also numista.com is the bible to identify coins, it's very useful if you wanna buy any coin online.

>>55481213
we get it, you're a vampire and would prefer to see silver stay in the ground, but people will always love the shiny stuff, I'm afraid.

>>55479523
dude we haven't even started mining the moon yet. Let alone going all the way past Mars to the Asteroid belt. Finding which asteroids have the correct materials, mining and transporting it all the way back to earth to compete with the precious metals market there.

I'm not saying it'll neve happen but this is many decades away.

>>55481379
I would rather see it my pocket whereas yall would prefer to pay for it and have it in your enemies pockets. Take the silver pill fren

>>55481213
you aren't able to post any notable investments either, are you?

>rooting for you
shouldn't i be the one rooting for you?

>>55481230
2 of the coins i have atm are 90+ on numista but they're still being minted

>>55481413
wait, so which one is it? is silver a scam or not?
>That's the only way to gain the respect of the shills, incels and other assorted losers that buy and shill and fall for for the silver scam

>>55481413
hey fren, i'm not very good at math. what would the effective yield on these buys be now? is it like 20%?

>>55481441
it's only a scam if you have unrealistic expectations or buy fake stuff from dodgy sites, the main reason to buy precious metals is to have a hedge against inflation and then all the profit on top of that is a nice a bonus

>>55481430
If you own any mintanon or holo coin, you necessarly have 90+ rarity items.

>>55481501
the silver coin i got was pretty good tbf it wasn't much more than a britannia

>>55481413
what about this one? is this one like 25% yield?

>>55481518
Drop the mystery veil already and post it lol!

>>55481524
it's the royal arms coin, limited mintage of 100,000, there's also a gold version which is limited to 5,000

>>55481425
Why would I post winning investments on a scam thread. Kektop! This thread is for losers to brag about how much they lost on the silver scam silly goose

>>55481567
right, that would be crazy. it would be better to just tell people their investment sucks and then to not list any alternatives. hey, this one should be like a 13% yield, right?

>>55481491
>profit

Lmao yall have lost at least 86% on silver including inflation, sales tax premiums, shipping and jizya

>>55481585
Here's a good investment buy silver at spot and sell it to retards here for spot plus 68%

>>55481593
absolutely pathetic lmao
don't spend that 2k in one place

>>55481587
You aren't exhausted, repeating the exact same lines dozen of times in each thread? I legit feel pity for you, that's not a life to do that. I understand you are paid to do it, but man, where is your self-respect? Don't you have any shred of dignity left?

Should I care about wear and tear on silver bullion coins? I just chucked a pile of krugerrands and kangaroos (cheapest premium I could find) into a metal lockbox and wondered if scratches and the like would impact value when they're basically just worth their weight in silver.

>>55481645
If you're planning on selling for spot then it shouldn't really matter, as long as your not selling to a coin collector they probably wouldn't care much

>>55481663
Nice, good to hear

Any post now xer will tell us we've lost over 110% on silver.

>>55479498
Wish I could do 10oz a month. You Americans earn so much more than us Europoors

>>55480929
Hey frogbro, that is actually a pretty nice quality lot of "uncleaned" roman bronzes, and it includes some of the late 3rd century debased Antoninianus "double denarius" coins which have been becoming more popular with collectors in recent decades. Those coins look like "desert patina" pieces or at least ones dug in an arid environment like maybe Turkey, not dug in Germany or England. Basically all of the visible pieces look like good or at least decent coins which wouldsignificantly benefit from cleaning, they are not the nasty corroded worthless irredeemable worn-down slugs that shlomo sells as "uncleaned". Prices for uncleaned bronzes have been going upconsistently the past 20 years so I wouldn't be surprised if the batch goes for over ~$4/coin, and if they didn't hide 25 junkers under the nicer ones in the pile pic it would be a good deal at ~$2.50/coin and under. Give me more info and I can give you more guidance, but I do like the look of that batch and would be personally interested in it as material to clean with my tools (pic related) under my binocular microscope.

>>55481256
>i paid 60 bux for it 2 weeks ago, weights 190gr of .925. That's 10€/oz of fine silver.

That's actually a very appealing bowl too, I personally enjoy the hand-hammered or crude "arts and crafts" aesthetic of pieces like that and have never scrapped any of the ones I've obtained. The way the divots and hammer marks catch the light after the piece is properly polished is magical, very excellent cheapie score my fren!

Bros, it dumpeth. Do I buy?

>>55481882
We get it that you got the cheapies. Why rub it in our faces?

>>55481952
pretty soon sniping sterling from dumbass boomers on ebay will be the only affordable way to stack, m8

>>55481952
>We get it that you got the cheapies. Why rub it in our faces?

Frogbro and I have been trying to educate anons about cheapies for a long time, he wasn't bragging or gloating just giving an example of the deals that can be gotten pretty regularly to encourage anons to keep their eyes open.

Not in my country. I'm a thirdie and everyone here stacks gold and silver.

>>55482113
third to this, cheapies are everywhere see bowl in pic related. Got it under spot

>>55479133
>The first /pmg/ was attacked 41 seconds after its creation
Incredible

>>55482325
You're a Dutchfren right? I've always liked that antique import silver repoussé bowl, did you find another after that one or am i thinking of a different anon?

>>55482135
>Not in my country

If your postal service is half decent then you can buy cheapies from overseas. I was busy and forgot to bid on this lot from Canada which ended yesterday, 196 grams of .830 silver (162.6g of pure, ~$120 melt value) someone got for the opening bid, even with the high international shipping cost to the USA it would have only cost me about $42 total or ~$8/ozt asw and if the winner was a Canadian it cost considerably less. $10/oz or cheaper silver can be gotten every day if you know how to look:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/404358444202

>>55482513
>did you find another after that one or am i thinking of a different anon?

That is correct and yes I did, multiple ones even 2 smaller ones and a bigger one I found for my uncle, all under spot

>>55481933
Buy dump days at about 11:35am to 1:00pm

>>55482513
Found another one here if you want it, not sure the person will ship outside Netherlands though
https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/antiek-en-kunst/antiek-goud-en-zilver/m1960779305-zilveren-schaaltje-djokja-zilver-gemerkt-800-ao-gewicht-135

>>55482725
>That is correct and yes I did, multiple ones even 2 smaller ones and a bigger one I found for my uncle, all under spot

Based, getting silver for family and friends is awesome. I gifted some antique sterling to 3 friends, my youngest brother and my sister recently and they all absolutely loved the stuff, 4 pieces with monograms matching their names and another which was a very useful and classy piece my friend started using literally every day, feels good man.

>>55482842
>feels good man.
Indeed, a gave a silver peace dollar to an American friend of mine and she was really happy

these 30mm 1oz rounds are pretty nice. hoping they make more.

>>55482861
>gave a silver peace dollar to an American friend of mine and she was really happy

Very nice, Peace dollars are a particularly attractive coin and a good choice for introducing ladies to our numismatic autism.

>>55482968
A the lion dollar, or leeuwendaalder in Dutch. Is that a pin fire bullet? That is pretty antique

>>55482979
Yes indeed fren that's an old French pinfire I got for a few bucks at a gun show, I have 2 of the leeuwendaalders which are somewhat relevant to American numismatists because of their popularity in the early colonial era here, circulating in the Northeast through the early/mid 1700s but I think Spanish coins were always the most prevalent.

>>55480879
The likelihood of finding, mining, and returning PMs in any substantial quantity from asteroids is currently very small. There is a race (uncoordinated) between developing such operations and a nuclear disaster brought about by any of several megalomaniacs around the world.
Then there's 'inflation'. PMs are a commodity, and just as susceptible to supply and demand. If large quantities of the stuff were made accessible to Earthers, the overall value of the market should drop.
You can fantasize that rarity is disassociated from value, but you might want to come up with more reasoned arguments than critical uses and convenience (which would be increased with quantity, as you ironically point out, yet miss the connection).

>>55481302
Based take

In this clown world full of manipulation it's funny to see anons cling to these spot numbers or comex numbers like they hold any bearing. Keep stacking. Simple as.

>>55481302
>>55483537
yup
pic related

>>55479280
Most likely already coinvivor, read the disclaimer

Any info on the crusader pepes? I forgot what site I bought mine from.

>>55483818
you'll get em in 1-2 months

>>55483818
It's over

>>55483853

>>55479287
>$800
LOL
Those scratches on the reverse murder it's value.

>>55483971
yeah because i'm sure you're a numismatic expert and not just some fag on the internet who doesn't know what he's talking about

>>55483971
They do murder its value, but that value is in the 10s of thousands. Some numismatic retard will still pay four figures for this piece of shit details coin.

>>55479287
I would pay $100 for it

>>55484177
Not everyone who posts here is as stupid as you are.
>>55484208
It would probably be graded as Damaged with VF details. The damage makes the price subjective, but according to PCGS it's worth about $2-3k in VF, with the damage probably closer to $200

>>55483971
I'm going off auctions prices of coins in similar condition. Also see picrel the coin will straight grade

>>55484411
I don't think the scratches are consistent enough to be adjustment marks, and the stars are worn underneath which is evidence the scratches came later. There are other dings in the obverse field as well, which could also count as PMD depending on who's grading it.

>>55484472
>the stars are worn underneath which is evidence the scratches came later
The appearance of the "worn" stars is from the comically weak strike of die attribute O-107.
Here you can see the different die attributes:
http://maibockaddict.com/1806-draped-bust-half-dollars.shtml

Consider the minting process:
>mint worker finds that coin is over acceptable weight
>mint worker applies filing marks
>coin is struck after being riddled with marks
>all filing marks on the coin disappear due to being struck except for the area of the weak strike

Bonus picrel is an example of another O-107 in similar condition with the same marks. It did not details grade for the marks.

>>55484540
You've done your research on it, I'll give you that. I still disagree, but we'll see what PCGS thinks. I'll keep an eye out for your post.

>>55484736
I'm a bit weary myself but I'm content regardless for the price I got it for (it was sold to me at details grade pricing). PCGS should take a few months.

>>55484540
"cleaned" and therefore worthless

>>55484868
even CLEANED that one hammered for $575. Mine is uncleaned, should sell for much more.

>>55484902
yeah these people just don't get how rare the coin is

>>55483537
Lmao the way you scam victims justify getting scammed is hilarious. The price you pay is losing money on every "investment " you make. And you never learn. Amazing !

>>55481746
If you are poor why are you wasting your money on a guaranteed loser investment? Is that the same mentality as inner city retards who buy instant loser lottery tickets? At least they have a chance at winning the jackpot all you win is a daily reminder you chose to be scammed

>>55485318
what alternatives have you suggested so far faggot? haven't seen a single one. are you trolling?

>>55485379
If you haven't caught on that he's a bot/troll/shitbird I don't know what to tell you.
Also, it drives me crazy that he can shit up the thread endlessly, but if you say anything about the jannies, you get a warning/timeout/ban. It's enough to make me want to buy the dip.

>>55485379
You can buy your silver shitcoins and immediately lose 40%

Or you can can put your money under your mattress and lose nothing

Or you can buy a money market account and earn a government guaranteed 5 %


Lmao yet you retards choose to instantly lose 40% you are literally retarded. Kektop! Literally the worst investment in the investment universe that's what you retards choose. Over and over and over.......and over and over and over....and over some more

>>55485516

>>55485463
>I want to buy more of a guaranteed loser investment and lose again to "own" the smart guy who pointed out I was getting scammed that I ignored because ...?....... uh uh uh because uh uh uh muh ego


You seem very stable and smart I can't understand why you keep losing all your money

>>55479008

Your participation needed:

Global. Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/433530891

>>55485534
It really enrages you scam victims that everyone around the world except you wants US$ ....why could that be? Hmmmm it pays interest, it has a stable value, it's universally accepted in transactions.....oh and unlike the millenial rocks you losers crave it doesn't instantly lose 40% in value when you buy it...sorry no sorry chud but you is wrong about everything

>>55481838
You are reading in my mind haha, i'm interested with this lot because i'd like to give cleaning a chance.
I recently came across a cool sounding dude on jewtube who restore coins using the same tools as in your pic and i thought it was great and would fulfill my archeologic itch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5R6IpIvi7o

>Give me more info and I can give you more guidance
There isn't much more infos sadly, here is the auction : https://www.ebay.fr/itm/394721961193
It was at 20€ earlier today, so it went up fast!
Where did you find all your dirt removing tools?

>>55481882
Yes the bowl did grow on me, the quality seemed very nice. After doing some searches, it turns out it's coming from a pretty famous swedish silversmith house. I don't remember the name but i can look it up.

PS : the brass and copper royal jetons just showed up in the mail! I'll sort them out and post more pics later on.

>>55484411
>>55484540
>http://maibockaddict.com/1806-draped-bust-half-dollars.shtml

Damn dude, when you first posted that half I thought the scratches were PMD, I was unaware of the practice of planchet adjustment with coarse files and wasn't familiar with the different die varieties but I see the weakly struck area which at first glance I thought someone had scraped down and now believe you're quite right, thanks for the lesson anon and congrats on the savvy purchase! Did you buy it to flip or is it for the collection? Did you get a killer deal on it?

so prices dip last week and the JIDF goes back into full swing?
neat. i know my
buy signals now.

>>55485758
Thank you. For now I plan to keep it within the collection as I have no reason to sell it.

These coins are already very niche. The 1806 half O-107a (this is a subvariant of 107 that accounts for the die crack in "UNI") currently carries the rarity rating of R4+ which is quite scarce, estimated 76-115 surviving examples.

Digging through auction archives, I can only find five of which that carry adjustment marks. While adjustment marks don't mean a details grade, the other anon was correct that it makes the value of the coin more subjective.

Seeing that the last listing of this type on Heritage hammered in 2018 for $1,080 (albeit in slightly higher condition I will admit), I figure that this coin would be in the ballpark of $800-1,200. This takes into account the inflation of prices in numismatic markets post-2020 as well as the difference in condition.

Meaning, I would expect to see 2x-3x what I paid for (again, I paid details prices as the seller thought it was "scratched"). If the coin does unexpectedly throw up a details grade, I am pretty confident that I would still be able to break even.

>>55485994
I will say that the coin is a great testament to the days of when silver and gold WERE money. Every grain of silver was accounted for when making these coins. When filing the planchets down, workers caught shavings in their leather aprons and shoes and collected them at the end of the day. Clothes were kept on site at the mint, they were changed in and out of before and after every shift. Waste water in the mint was collected and dried to extract any missing metals. Everything was collected and returned to the melting pot.

>>55481256
How do you find these? Do you just search "sterling"?

>>55485739
Yeah that jump in price is to be expected, still a good deal provided they didn't put a bunch of horrible junk underneath. You might want to try finding smaller lots of uncleaned coins from sellers in Bulgaria, Serbia and neighboring areas to start practicing with if you're not yet comfortable spending a few hundred on dirty coins.
>Where did you find all your dirt removing tools?
I made lots of the tools myself from old thicker gauge copper wire that I hammer-hardened into a square or diamond cross-section, then used files and sharpening stones to refine the points. they get dull fast so need to be resharpened frequently but I really like them, being made of soft copper makes them less dangerous and damaging to coins than the steel diamond-tipped tools if you make mistakes. Bamboo kebab skewers and especially Locust tree thorns are very nice, and the tool at the bottom with 2 sewing pins I keep very sharp to get into the smallest and finest details is a "pin vice" like:
https://premium-ancient-coins.com/en-us/products/uncleaned-coin-cleaning-tool-vise-3-diamond-grinding-tips

I also made a scrubbing tool by tightly twisting some fine steel wool and inserting it into a hollow ballpoint pen tube, it is very good for quickly removing looser dirt and cleaning up flat areas on coins and would be super useful for coins like the ones in that eBay auction, removing most of the grime fast so you can focus on the details with the slower but more precise sharp tools without wasting too much time. It's a fun hobby, very good if your mobility is limited by the back problems.

>>55485994
Thanks for elaborating anon, I don't learn interesting and useful things every day but this insight into Draped Bust silvers is great stuff. Hopefully you can find more Draped Busts priced cheap because people think they were post-mint damaged, you've demonstrated that it's a good little niche to keep an eye on.

>>55482628
how can you even tell the silver weight on ebay spoon lots?

>>55486070
i have most of these bills coming. turn them around, the backsides are so nice. you even have the dragon one there. the back of that 1000 note is really cool too

>>55486062
>How do you find these? Do you just search "sterling"?

kek, it's not quite that simple. Any dumb boomer who wants silverware can (and does) search "sterling", so the properly listed and titled items almost always sell for prices that aren't really appealing. There are techniques and strategies for efficiently mining the "sleeper" auctions listed by ignorant normies where the items are good silver but they don't include "sterling" in the title, or even erroneously call it "silverplate" or "stainless", but it's neither straightforward to outline nor in our best interest to hand you our proprietary playbooks.

>>55486084
>how can you even tell the silver weight on ebay spoon lots?

That seller stated the weight in the description lol, but if no weight is given I am pretty good at estimating, and if the pieces are of a pattern I recognize or can easily figure out then I'll just search for listings of items of that same pattern where the weight is given and calculate based on that, it's pretty elementary fren.

>>55479008
>1.85 billion ounces of gold left
>just 1 quarter ounce gold left to mine for each person
>only 500 dollars per person to buy the gold
>only 18 billion ounces of silver left to mine
>a little over 2 ounces per person
>only 50 dollars per person to buy all the silver left to mine
How can people see numbers like these and not FOMO?

>>55486192
Thank you for the advice, will try to incorporate it.

>>55486192
>but it's neither straightforward to outline nor in our best interest to hand you our proprietary playbooks.
This. I wouldn't give my secret cheapies key words even under torture.
You have to work for those damn words!

>captcha : DYOR K

>>55486213
>How can people see numbers like these and not FOMO?
Normalcy biais. It's more prevalent than ever now people are addicted to constant influx of informations.

>>55486216
Searching "sterling" in titles AND descriptions in backwater categories can be pretty productive. The majority of sterling gets listed under the main "antiques" category in the "silver" subcategory and that is where boomers go to browse for deals and then wind up bidding everything up, but some good silver winds up in weird categories and can fly under the radar. Searching for more unusual alloys like 950, 935, 900, 835, 830, 800 etc. can also be worthwhile. Good luck!

>>55486213
Because people would rather have a Hershey chocolate bar than a bar of silver. Lmao normal people don't want your garbage rocks. Go spew your FUD somewhere else scammer

>>55486255
>Normalcy biais.
That's a good take. People just hope that stuff will work out right without trying to fix anything themselves.

They'll be fucked when the economy starts collapsing and we'll thrive.

>>55486213
i just checked the paper silver to silver ratio. its 320 to 1. Jesus, last time I checked it was 150 to 1.

>>55486321
>its 320 to 1. Jesus, last time I checked it was 150 to 1.
Looks like the economy is going to hell faster than what we anticipated. Hold on to your stacks friends, we're in for a wild ride.

The silver must flow.

>>55486321
Paper silver is far superior. When you losers buy fake physical silver you immediately lose 45%. Get with the times grampa

>>55486353
Silver scam FUD

>>55486353
Holy fuck it doesn't stop. 1.6Moz daily average received for over 2 weeks now is quite insane.

>>55486353
>We've already burnt through 29% of their entire silver reserves
Kek, we're winning.

Any good books on silver in the Roman Empire?

>>55486388
It was -35% two weeks ago anon, with registered down -80%..

>>55486412
Ouch but that's nothing we can't overcome.

>>55486277
Thanks again!

silver paper always beats silver rock

>>55479438
>>US taxpayers' money spent to destroy Putler will soon fuel the russian's central bank gold reserves
It's russian taxpayer money spent on feeding the army akshually

>>55481838
Why all your tools are so rusty anon?

>>55486524
Damn, that's one filthy jewish rat face if i ever saw one lol.

>>55486643
only grabbed to flip incase the squeeze happens. lawsuits wrapping up soon. maybe keep one.

>>55486697
> lawsuits
for the rs?

>>55486705
looks like a sham to delay the RS/new cusip

>>55486705
>lawsuit*

Is manganese brass a precious metal?
Just ordered the one Sacagawea coin design I don't have

>>55486278
"Because people would rather have a Hershey chocolate bar than a bar of silver"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUHHKWqr-xU

>Mark: "You could sell the silver bar at the coin shop next door for $2000."
>Normal Person: "That sounds like too much work"

"Normal people" also injected themselves three times with an experimental jab. I wouldn't want to be associated with them either. Good point.

>>55486734
they should do whatever they can to prevent the rs. anyone hoping to have one of their stocks reverse split is an absolute fucking mongoloid.

>>55486734
this pic from a thread or two ago. this is what continual rs get you

>>55486353
It is surprising to see a large uptake, but will it last.

>>55486775
yes i agree under normal conditions were used to. wasnt supposed to be that way. i voted yes yes. so did the majority. all or nothing. its also the conversion of ape back to amc. giving new cusip. theory - to expose swamp tactics via new cusip, unable to hide synthetics. they'll change the rules to not lose prolly. conversion of ape allowing them to dilute to raise money/pay off debt. giving no more reason for shorts after debt is paid. last time amc diluted price rose. Im not heart set on anything. but have some for the meme if we can still make a difference.

will you fags shut the fuck up about muh amc stock splits, christ

>>55486365

1/2oz gold libertad and tube of phils or maples
vs
1oz buffalo

which would you get. i don't have either of the gold coins yet

>>55486925
1/2 Mex and Canadian Maples.

>>55486804
Very interesting. Why do you guys think the silver reserves are going up?

3 oz & 10 grams of gold, 64 oz of silver here. Am I going to make it?

Anyone know if these are worth grading?
I have 8 vouchers through pcgs and have like 300 morgan dollars to go through. A lot of them look pristine but I am having a hard time telling if they are cleaned. *Grandma's husband just died and had a huge coin collection*

Let me know if you guys would like some pictures of some of the morgan dollars.

>>55487013
Holy shit, all three of those are really nice. And you have free vouchers for it? I'd say it's definitely worth it at least for the Ten dollar piece. Those tend to be really hard to get. What about the Morgans? Can you post a few of them?

Damn inflation so bad that AU-58 is the new MS-63
BRUTAL

>>55487006
Lmao you retards think that # is silver reserves

>>55487024
show morgans i love em simple as

here are some more gold coins, let me know if putting them in a printer scan was a good idea. Will probably send these to pcgs.

>>55487073
cool ive got about 300 of em give me like 10-15 minutes for the first batch

>>55487006
I'd say groups like JP Morgan and Blackrock are desperately shoveling silver into the COMEX. The price needs to be tamped down, and the COMEX must not be allowed below whatever psychological barrier their analysts have come up with. The normies must be kept in the dark about the debasement of their currency and what truly has value

Unless I'm wrong about how much people like us and Wall St. Silver are forcing (((their))) hand, I don't think we'll ever see silver below $20 again. We seem to be approaching an endgame, though what endgame remains to be seen. We're probably going to see an outlawing and confiscation of privately owned physical silver and gold before things really get out of control.

All I know is we need to buy land, guns, and more gold and silver. If we play our cards right, we will make it beyond our wildest dreams. The WEF will just have to accept the new global financial elite will include autists from some internet imageboard.

moved to a new city over a year ago and haven't explored any LCS

there's a place called (((wexler's))) along the highway. what am i in for?

>>55487097
based eagle collection, i have a st gaudens 1907 and a liberty head

>>55487200
are all these coins actually yours? pretty nice collection. would definitely grade some of them

so are these worth the money to get graded or is a waste of time? It feels like a gamble i dont know much about them but i do need to sell them

>>55487212
yeah grandma's husband died and left them, there is about 300 of them

>>55487221
>300 silver Morgan dollars
You lucky bastard.

>>55487213
morgan dollars are generally a retard market. people, even in 2023, still insist on "collecting" them cuz they're "rare" and "beautiful," despite massive hordes of perfectly preserved having been known from bank vaults for decades. also it's ugly. i say get em graded, pass the cost onto a dipshit willing to pay $50-100 for an oz of silver bullion, and buy peace dollars or better yet, pre-1933 gold in AU+ condition

>>55487006
>Very interesting. Why do you guys think the silver reserves are going up?
I dunno, it's impossible to say what's going off until we find out where exactly this silver came from.

>>55487234
i also think that grading companies offer bulk discounts so you pay like $20 per coin instead of $30 per coin if you have 300 of em. generally, all morgan dollars are like yours, except many are graded in flaps with "wow! frosty! minTsTaTe!" written on them.

but your best bet is to list them on ebay (researching the years and pricing accordingly), because there will always be some idiot willing to pay insane premiums on a tragically common, ugly, and well-preserved coin for the purpose of "completing their collection."

morgan dollar retards are especially susceptible to this. they LOVE buying a morgan dollar for every single year of its existence

>>55487213
>>55487221
was grandma's husband some remarried slub and not grandpa? if it was grandpa, you should very strongly consider at least keeping a couple.

>>55487234
Ive got maybe 100+ peace dollars here. let me know if you want pics of more morgans/ peace dollars. Would you get the peace dollars graded as well?

>>55487013
also, i'd be legitimately interested to buy these $10 and $5 eagles from you. maybe the $20 depending on if you can do a 15% premium across the board, but i do have one already

>>55487274
meh, i stopped buying silver except for the very occasional 10 oz poured englehard bar. been kinda out of the /pmg/ scene since i hit ~10 oz gold, mostly european/historical american

>>55487276
this is a very real offer tho and i'd love to negotiate a bit. a flat 15% on a commit buy buy all 3 seems fair, though you can make more selling them individually to ebay for a 20-30% premium, and less selling them to a coin store

I would be careful about getting most of those graded. Check the years and mint marks. Look for any particularly rare dates and narrow those down. Then consider getting the cream of those crop graded.

Generic date Morgans/Peace dollars go for like $50-70 uncirculated so most aren't actually worth grading.

The being said I would instantly get those gold pieces graded. You can't really lose grading gold.

>t. half dollar autist phonefagging
I'll take a closer look at them when I can

>>55487013
>>55487276
>>55487289
here are the numista links fot all 3 coins so you can arm yourself with knowledge

$20 - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23125.html
$10 - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23124.html
$5 - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18809.html

>>55487272
oh im keeping a good amount of it

The picture on the top is what i am buying from this lot minus some of the morgans ill buy. The pic on the bottom is some silver shot ive melted down for fun thought you guys might like.

>>55487289
Thanks for the offer but im going to pass at the moment. might let you guys know what they get graded at though I'll probably send them off on Monday. Check out that 100oz englehard bar I just posted.

>>55487348
I love the Aztec pyramids. Very sexy

>>55479280
Where's my fellow salamanders at

>>55487379
Thanks, if people are intrested i wouldnt mind pouring a few more to sell on ebay

>>55487358
ah no worries, i'm not in a rush - and 100oz of silver is way too much silver for me. i'd be interested to go to 18-20% over spot for those golds, with the guarantee of buying all 3 at once, but am very hesitant to go above that. it just makes sense to buy a st gaudens graded from apmex at that point.

at this time for me, buying old american gold is largely a stack-building exercise. already got plenty of oddities except a buffalo head coin (huge premiums) and a pine tree shilling (pure numis - insane premiums). so i can wait, but would also dip into the savings for $4000 or whatever in a secure ebay sale from an anon

did buy some nazi junk from oldsilver.ru back in the day so i have traded on pmg before

>>55487394
Dude people would definitely pay a hefty premium for a cool design like that, on eBay they're already paying huge markups for basic bitch runs

>>55487009
how does $5000 sound

>>55487395
btw, the grading process doesn't necessarily tell you what it's worth, only the condition, and it can get weird. it's generally a good idea if you have bulk or rare/really good quality coins, or if you got them graded 20 years ago (old logos without websites/QR codes carry their own premiums).

generally i use it as a seal of authenticity when buying coins off ebay randos, and don't fuss about years/slab logos/mint marks/shipwreck/famous collection annotations/etc.

So, I've just been reading about the Varna necropolis in Bulgaria due to finding out that it is currently the biggest hoard of gold ever to have been found in a grave site. The total amount of gold across 300+ graves is 6kg (192.9 troy oz), with grave 43 having more gold than the entire rest of the world in that period. Impressive, but what I find most impressive is that a bunch of shitposters who hang out in the back corner of the internet pretty much have more combined gold than this ancient golden kingdom. Pretty fucking wild thinking about it.

>>55487314
Thank you!

>>55487495
most ppl here have huge boxes of silver but deutsch anon has a solid gold stack. interesting article for sure, but for me, it's still the anglo-saxon hoards. love reading about these rare artifacts

>>55487510
yeah man. if you change your mind re: selling i can start negotiations at $3700 for these three golds:
>>55487013
this is a 15% premium rounded down (technically $3719.422) and my absolute limit is 20% given that MS-62 graded st gaudens (= $20 liberty head double eagle) are selling on apmex for 11% premiums almost always

not a dealer, just a guy who hasn't stacked lately cuz life got in the way, not looking to resell, just simply stack till death and my own dumbass decendents post on 4chan asking about their coin inheritance

goldinterest at tutanota dot com

>>55487358
Trade me the 1907-S $20 lib for picrel

>>55487588
>Sorry, you are currently not allowed to send or receive emails because your account was marked for approval. This process is necessary to offer a privacy-friendly registration and prevent mass registrations at the same time. Your account will normally be automatically approved after 48 hours. Thank you for your patience!
fucking hell m8

>>55487495
Very nice story, thanks for sharing.

>>55487193
>>55487200
I've taken a closer look at these now that I'm back at my computer anon. I'm going to be honest, many of these seem like common dates that would not benefit very much from grading. If I were you I would sell them as-is on eBay or on another platform.

Anyone knowledgeable about old dutch coins?
Worth doing anything with? Sell to apmex or sell on ebay?

>>55487638
No idea, trade me your lib

backs*

>>55487638
>Sell to apmex

Welcome to pmg

>>55487588
NOOO YOURE A JEWISH DC SHILL NOOOO

>>55487638
Many of these would sell individually online for the price on the flips, but it is more likely that they are only worth their silver scrap value and maybe a few dollars more.

>>55487638
>>55487643
yes it's euro junk, not pejorative, just a term for euro versions of pre-1964 U.S. common coins (90% silver)

nazi ones with meme crosses are the only euro junk that carries premiums disproportionate to their actual value. the rest is slightly less than U.S. junk if selling to U.S. citizens only cuz a quarter or dime is more familiar than a franc

you might sell it by the oz at a premium slightly less than "consitutional silver" goes for (research that term, it's used by ppl selling junk silver to doomsday preppers at above-average premiums)

>>55487314
Paranoid anon being real quiet right now. His silence speaks volumes.

>>55487651
Will do cheers. Glad I've bit off a bit more than i can chew telling her id sell it for her but I have the time for it and its fun nonetheless.

>>55487671
He's humoring you. do not do that

>>55487657
lol based merchant detector. but seriously, i want to engage this anon because $3700, as-is, negotiable, is a fair offer. considering he can sell them to a (((coin shop))) for $3350-3500 at the absolute max, or get them graded and sell them all individually for up to maybe $4000 minus ebay fees.

and part of the negotiation would be me possibly splitting the ebay fees in exchange for a lower premium / security of payment and shipping, for the guarantee of buying all at once for my personal stack

maybe coin buying DOES turn ppl into kikes, i dunno. don't circumcise your kids

>>55487671

>>55487693
I’ll buy the $20 lib, I need that date.

>>55480789
How many times do I have to say this? On an international level, silver is treated as an industrial metal, not a precious metal. Gold is the king of the world.

>>55487693
also i will say to coin-hoard anon, i met a guy in his situation once. was looking for a safe and it turns out the ebay listing was a hour drive away so i could collect it for cash and no shipping

while i was there, it turns out his father-in-law gifted him like half a coin shop on retirement so i was unprepared for the onslaught of stuff and so was he. he just wanted it all gone

we did work out a deal where i also bought a bunch of kennedy half dollars (i showed him the bullion price on numista and he told me to pay $1 less for each to remove them all)

i also bought some funny old pennies for like $2 each which was an accurate estimate. none were the famous "penny worth $100000000000000" story cuz the father in law obv only gave away the junk from his shop

though i did pass on a couple cool books and an unknown quantity of gold shavings, oh well

>>55487392
only because of the gold i have.
i want to be a salamander by silver alone but that's gonna be way into the future.

>>55487710
it's cool i have i think an 1896 one already. it's all anon's choice obviously, not exactly trying to burn a hole in my pocket after gearing up with bike stuff

>>55487764
I have a bunch of double Eagle dates but no 1907-S yet.

/pmg/ has gone insane

>>55487796
Many of these would sell individually online for the price on the flips, but it is more likely that they are only worth their silver scrap value and maybe a few dollars more.

>>55487692
I mean APMEX is the fastest best bids ive got. I am personal friends with my local pawn shop owner and he said he will give me $20 per morgan where apmex on the low end is $40 up to who knows based on date/ mark. Other than that ebay will always be better but this isnt my shit and just need to sell it.

>>55487810
>$20 per Morgan
That guy is not your friend. You are a rube to him. Sell me your $20 liberty.

>>55487810
>>55487832
I was going to say, that dude is scamming you kek. I would give at least 35 each for those. Even cull grade Morgans can sell for 25 each.

>>55487832
Already paid pcgs. Buy it off ebay in like 2 years when they send it back.

>>55487832
its all about mergin and overhead. you don't know what his LCS is selling for. My local stores have bad payout but cheap prices for buyers.

>>55487848
I mean yeah I just work with his wife. But you are very right... just your run of the mill sleazy pawn shop owner.

>>55487854
Buying AU/BU Morgans for $2 over melt is just taking advantage of dimwits. If that’s how you make your money, that’s fine, but call it what it is. You know the LCS is selling them for $40 for an AU 1921 and up from there.
>>55487852
PCGS got bought by a hedge fund and they fired all of the experienced numismatists. They’ve been undergrading and misidentifying coins as counterfeit for 6 months now out of fear of over grading/slabbing a fake. It’s a waste of money now, in addition to being a waste of time. Send something of lower value off to them, they’re afraid to give high marks to pre-33.

I'm going to buy a 2.5 gram gold bar and I'm not sorry.

>>55487887
>>55487013
>>55487097
Where would you recommend getting the gold graded? NGC? I have 8 vouchers at pcgs so i might as well use them but i did hear about that.

>>55487925
Make sure to never take it out of the assay, funkopops lose their value out of the box
>>55487856
Daily reminder to sell me the lib

>>55487925
And this isn't a bad price huh lads?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/281692606428

>>55487887
i dont trust any grading companies. i dont even want to buy anything thats slabbed. there was controversy over a retro video game grading company last year too

>>55487771
nice, i only have 2. a 1896 (?) liberty head and a 1907 OG st gaudens that i'm proud of. a third one is cool at some point

>>55487938
some years ago I sold some 2 gram gold nuggets and they were purchased for melt value, I don't think it really matters anon.

>>55487934
Isn’t this some favor you’re doing for someone? Getting shit graded takes forever, costs money, and doesn’t always increase the value of the coin. What do you think it’ll grade? Take some better pics and I’ll pay a fair price for the presumed grade. NGC was also bought out. CAC is starting up a grading service but it’ll probably be a while. Right now is a tough time to inherit/offer to sell a collection.

>>55487948
Is the 1907 high relief or just a typical no motto? Love me a good Saint
>>55487949
It doesn’t I am spreading misinformation

>>55487934
ngc/pcgs are the same shit man, whatever costs the least to you. both are respected and i personally don't care whether it's one or the other agency, nor do i care much for grading at all

>>55487947
retro gaming grades are retarded, i remember that controversy too. mostly for driving up the price of SNES games that some ppl actually wanna play (i have a jap version of pocky & rocky that i bought for $100 or so and love playing)

though i will say that if i had the foresight to have bought a stack of casacius bitcoins (25 btc whole blocks each) and gotten them all slabbed during the brief time that ngc/pcgs were grading physical bitcoins, i'd be a fucking billionaire and would be paying ppl to shitpost on /pmg/ on my behalf as i fucked prostitutes on a private compound

>>55487966
Based confusing misinformation spreader

>>55487966
typical no motto, cost $1550 back in the day ungraded but a solid AU/BU/MS60+ i forget. haven't opened the safe since i dumped a bunch of hi res pics of weird shit like
>iceland euros that don't exist IRL
>iceland gold
>peru sol d'oro
>iceland "3 leaders" silver"
>gutenberg 500th printing press bronze medal
>and other weird odds and ends that ppl ITT don't usually see, being flooded by stacks of 1000+ silver rounds

>>55487979
The same guy that started PCGS moved on to start NGC and then started CAC which sells the fucking gay stickers they put on PCGS and NGC graded coins. It’s all a fucking racket. The guys at the top overgrade their own collections. Some of the only MS69 Morgan dollars ever graded just happen to be owned by former PCGS/NGC top numismatists.

>>55487989
Picrel
>>55487998
Nice. I have a 1908 no motto but no 1907. Another gap I’ve gotta fill one of these days.

>>55488004
still, what i'm saying is that it's a good stamp of authenticity if you're buying online and can't physically feel/inspect/analyze the coin. but yes i do agree that grading is a scam beyond "i'm paying $200 more for an oz of gold that probably isn't fake and probably isn't fucked up, and if it has an old logo, i can try and get more for that"

>>55487392
When you've got a massive stack, can you just tell us how many ounces you've got because that shit is impossible to count from a single picture.

>>55488013
yeah the st gaudens are nice. i used to work in a place with his sculptures everywhere (boston) so he's a fond part of my memory. idgaf too much about year/motto status, it's just nice to have the 1st issue of something cool. now i have one, i could stack another cuz it's a pretty and affordable oz of gold

>>55488025
Just get a sigma and learn to look at coins. The only convincing fakes I’ve ever seen are the incuse Indian $2.5 and $5s, and who would want some defeated people on their coins lmao

>>55488037
Big fan of his.

>>55488041
sigma-aldrich? they make all sorts of lab equip. but yes, fakes are kinda easy to spot. i remember looking on ebay for "nazi gold" once before, it was lolworthy. at the same time, some coins just come slabbed, like my OG manx cat coin or my iceland 10,000kr gold. it's the sort of shit that ppl bought in the 70-80s and immediately had slabbed at MS69-70 so there are more graded than not

>>55488048
yeah i literally used to work at essentially a museum of great american and french art. smoked in the lap of this statue for years

>>55488051
A sigma machine, it can tell you whether the 90% gold coin you have is plated or actually 90% agw. They go for like $700. Pays for itself with one fake and you don’t have to rely on nerds at PCGS taking six months to tell you what number your coin is and if the toning is suspicious or not.

>>55487934
If you come around to not sending your shit off to nerds, let me know. Otherwise good luck ever actually getting your moneys worth from the grading process.

>>55488074
>sigma machine
ah sigma metalytics. makes sense to eventually buy one. also those fags who go on about "toning" are retards. you can bury a polished coin in ash at the side of a fireplace and they'll never be able to tell the difference, assuming it hasn't been attacked with a wire brush

Gonna prepare new thread, I'll post when we reach 310 posts.

>>55488153
*plants mini-bomb*
>checkmate, globalists

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NEW THREAD

>>55488169

>>55486804
It's over

>>55488164
>beauty hot girl