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No, its possible that everyone loses

Life is a zero sum game.
Your veggies can be thousands of times more sensitive than animals, yet do nt die immediately when you cut them in half. That eggplant you put up your bum suffered incredibly. It is suffering still as it lies inside your fridge awaiting the torturous edge of your knife and the searing heat of the pan. All this time it has been screaming in ultrasonic.

>>55434532
>veggies feel pain

>>55434508
If you stake your Link tokens then you get paid when people use Chainlink services. You win and they win, because they pay a tiny amount for those services, which bring them benefits over non-Chainlinked services. The more this happens, the more you 'win'. Does anyone lose? Maybe the mev mafia. Do we care about them?

>>55434556
What services are you talking about?

>>55434567
Don't reply to chainlink bots

>>55434508
Yes. Every gain is someone else's loss, as there is no value being created. In fact the sheer waste of time of the technology could be regarded as negative sum given it's not achieved real world usage at scale in 14 years.

>>55434545
>pain
Quote me retard.
Plants respond to destructive physical stimuli. 'Pain' in another system. They are at least biologically aware they are being destroyed and attempting to prevent it as best they can

>>55434576
And that's a good thing

>>55434584
Goddamn your mother dropped you as a kid, I'm sorry to hear that

>>55434590
>the vegan recoils from fact
Everything suffers. Especially your mader when she thinks of you.

>>55434567
https://docs.chain.link/chainlink-functions/resources/billing
>inb4 but they're not charging yet
>this means services will be free forever and you should sell your Link
Think i'll have a cup of tea now

>>55434508
thats a man

>>55434598
Holy macaroni jumping to conclusioni. You can't be a real person

>>55434508
name?

>>55434620
https://fapello.com/jordan-mcdonald/

>>55434609
The only people who would argue that plants don't suffer are vegans. Absolutely no-one else cares.
Prove me wrong.

>>55434532
>>55434584
>>55434598
vegetables have no central nervous system to feel pain you fucking fat tub of lard. try eating some sometime

>>55434628
Agreed. Which is why i avoided the term. But they do react to destructive stimuli and take measures to prevent it on a biological level. They do attempt to alert other plants through ultrasonic vibrations that they are being attacked.
Fish however, despite having a central nervous system, do not have the capacity to be aware of pain.

>>55434508
>Someone else has to lose in order for me to win?
Yes.

Every trade has someone on the other side of that trade.

>>55434635
>yes (someone else has to lose in order for me to win)
So if i trade you my, say, tiling services for some of your money, who is on the losing side of the trade?

>>55434662
Tilemakers.

>>55434662
Why are you being retarded. We're talking about the trading of financial assets. Not the exchanges of goods and services.

>>55434508
BIG FUCKING MILKIES

>>55434632
>But they do react to destructive stimuli and take measures to prevent it on a biological level. They do attempt to alert other plants through ultrasonic vibrations that they are being attacked.
Those are automatic processes, like a machine, the plant don't "attempt" or "react" or percive anything.

>>55434690
let him be. he's one of those carnivore culties as evidenced by him sperging about veganism when nobody even brought up anything about veganism. he's literally an obese fuck. just feel sorry for him.

>>55434667
>Every trade has someone on the other side of that trade
>what about all these trades?
Er, they don't count

>>55434690
>Those are automatic processes
Irrellevant statement. So too is the central nervous system.
Plants most certainly react, attempt and perceive things. Just because you are uneducated on the processes doesn't mean they don't.
>They react to positive and negative stimuli.
>They attempt to maximize exposure to positive and minimize exposure to negative stimuli.
>The perceive each other through the roots and will even send each other water in times of need or produce pre-emptive 'toxins' when a neighbour is beings attacked.
>Some even refuse to grow next to each other.
All of this is undeniable.

>>55434695
I'm not carnivorous. I'm omnivorous. I'm not fat.
Why engage me when
1) you know nothing about the topic
2) you have no vested interest in the topic
My first post was vegan bait. If non vegans take it then they are just as stupid. It was also semi-relevant to the stale thread topic because you cannot avoid suffering of some kind regardless of the attempt. You would need synthesized food to avoid the zero sum game of life and that presents it's own suffering when you factor in the processes required to synthesize.
>tl;dr just by living you are in a zero sum game, dying does not exclude you from it

>>55434716
>IT WAS LE VEGAN BAIT
wow ok fatty

>>55434720
>Everyone who is not vegan is fat
Okay vegan.

>>55434508
>Is crypto a zero-sum game
you found it out now?
lmaoo

>>55434662
>who is on the losing side of the trade?
no one, you provided value you get value
same for the counterparty

>>55434574
I don't care about the bots, just wondering how smartfags are converting their shitcoins into bluechips.

>>55434628
well how come the vegetables are talking and feel pain in that seth rogan film then answer that with your precious logic

>>55434704
>So too is the central nervous system.
No it's not, unless you're implying all the actions and thoughts in your brain are automatic which would be terrifying since you'd be a real-life NPC.
You obviously are making the choice intentionally to strike the tone of a self-assured pseudointellectual faggot in your writing despite being wrong, so that's already working against you

>>55434758
>No it's not, unless you're implying all the actions and thoughts in your brain are automatic which would be terrifying since you'd be a real-life NPC.
>your brain
We are not talking of humans. Unless you are a cannibal.
>being wrong
Quote what is incorrect.
By the way, it's telling you vegans decided to argue about the vegetables instead of the premise.
>Life is a zero sum game

>>55434766
>Quote what is incorrect.
I literally did in the post before me, dumbass
>Everyone who doesn't like me is a vegan!
There are plenty of reasons to not like an annoying pussyboy like you, in your case it's the smug but simple way you write betraying average intelligence and overinflated self-importance. Your favorite book's Harry Potter, right?

>>55434792
>I literally did in the post before me
But we are not talking of the human central nervous system, so it is irrelevant and a non argument.
>character attack
Why are you so mad if you're not vegan? Why did you choose to argue about vegetable suffering if you have no emotional stake in it?
>pussyboy
Third worlder detected.
See, i can attack your character too.

>>55434628
Too bad growing them kills more animals than just eating a fucking cow. And you're not even eating most of the stuff killed on monocrop farms.

Monocrop farming needs to be banned outright. We need to return to growing stuff on allotments, and eating livestock.

>>55434574
I don't care about the bots, just wondering how smartfags are converting their shitcoins into bluechips with Eggman.

>>55434808
He sounds like some retarded kid

Everytime i bring up facts like you do i get some broccoli headed zoomer like him trying to attack me talking about stuff he has no idea about but somehow has to correct me?

Ofcourse i cant do arguements i just want to kill people who dont agree with me and i tell them to eat dog turds

>>55434821
Pajeet bot

>>55434545
Another retarded kid with their little reddit meme

You guys will never belong here

>>55434590
>>55434607

Are you like 13 years old or something?

>>55434808
>But we are not talking of the human central nervous system
Do you genuinely have a learning disability? Are you one of those low IQ people who can't tell how they felt if they didn't have breakfast this morning?
This is your post >>55434704
You said
>Irrellevant statement. So too is the central nervous system.
In response to veggie suffering being automatic.
Holy fuck, you are a true NPC, no wonder you perceive the thoughts and feelings in your head to be "automatic."
>Third worlder
The only people who say this are jeets trying to rile other jeets, I'm just an insomniac American
>>55434811
>>55434832
>And now the NPC pajeet breaks out the VPN

>>55434832
They feel the need to argue for their beliefs because their 'identity' is founded upon them.

>>55434864
Why're you talking to yourself pajeet? You going schizo?

>>55434863
>In response to veggie suffering being automatic.
Most fish have a cns but do are not cognizant of pain. You tried to move the goalposts to a human-specific CNS.
> I'm just an insomniac American child
FTFY
> breaks out the VPN
My ID is consistent, as is anons, yours is not.

>>55434508
>Someone else has to lose in order for me to win
I was thinking about this a lot, when all the btc shit happened my friends bags got fucked while mine was intact, now that I have OBAYC nfts I'm waiting for the same thing to happen, but I will be the lucky one

>>55434508
Why you thinkin' like that? We're here in the crypto game to make some serious gains, as long as we stay legit and don't pull any shady stuff. Traders win and lose, that's the honest truth. So let's just focus on scooping up those tokens at low prices, like MNI, LIT, and HPS, and watch our profits skyrocket. It's all about strategic buying and maximizing those gains.

>>55434627
Veganism is about mitigating external harm, not obliterating it. There are various reasons to believe the suffering experienced by plants is much lower than those of animals. And even if it were, industrial farm animals require lifetime feeds resulting in much higher amount of plants for equivalent caloric output, in add-on to how such plants are grown in less desirable conditions than those intended for human consumption.

Reality is not zero-sum, but it can be.

>>55434508
It's possible everyone earns since the world's first tokenized Teslas are up and running, Fag. This is car-sharing by everyone, for everyone.

>>55434511
It's win-win for me, Anon. When I buy KREST on allianceblock fundr I will get PEAQ airdrop.

>>55434508
Anon, it's when you don't know when and what to hold per time. Been fuckng the market hard with trending assets on tokenmetrics analytics. Never again will I be exit liquidity for another.

>>55434576
crypto is just entertainment (gambling). the same blackhole of productivity that applies to watching tv or vidya. you could learn about a protocol like tcp/ip in one day and move on with your fucking life but bc its crypto you make it your whole fucking life.

>>55435789
Based anon, I found their partnership with fetchai to bring multi-chain machine IDs to the space innovative, I won't be surprised to see increased adoption going forward.

>>55434511
That sounds horrible anon, you keep fucking the wrong pussy, smart fegs get some real nice pussy experience making payments with xMoney and earn about 1.5% cashback don't be a rekt dick anon.

>>55434508
>Someone else has to lose in order for me to win?
You can earn from the volatility by creating a winning crypto index on AstraDao and earn from it. No matter what you see in this space, always be on the winning side.

>>55434821
Good to see Asian meme melting faces. This could be the next biggest thing in crypto.

>>55434758
>You obviously are making the choice intentionally to strike the tone of a self-assured pseudointellectual faggot in your writing despite being wrong
KEK
REKT

>>55434508
>Someone else has to lose in order for me to win?
Depends what you define as "win"

These days most people define their crypto value in USD increasing as "winning" in which case of course it's not zero-sum as the USD value is determined by the free market and you can easily google why the free market is not considered zero sum

But if you define "win" as increasing your amount of crypto, especially one with a limited supply then we've got an actual discussion on our hands and hence why its possible, nay probable that crypto, in the long term, is not a solution to an end-game financial model

>>55440202
>crypto, in the long term, is not a solution to an end-game financial model
Oops, should have said crypto IN ITS CURRENT FORM is not a solution

>>55434845
>defending someone that talks about shoving vegetables up his ass
>>you are reddit

>>55440115
The Asian community can definitely move numbers anon. Although I'm not a fan of memecoins, I'd rather stick to MultiversX gems like Egld, Ride and Zcash which have been building during the bears.

>>55434556
Staking is a good way to accumulate asides your Dca chad. I do it for my ETH on Rocket Pool with over 5% APY after doing my research on Tokenmetrics for analysis and security.

>>55441113
>zcash

I don't know the other 2 shitcoins but why mention the most shitcoin of all.

>>55437343
This is your cup of tea, Jeet. Web3 Tesla-sharing is live, anon. When I drive, everyone earns,

>>55437072
This enabling data exchanges between Polkadot and Cosmos, Fag. I see this as an exciting prospects.