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I have a 30 minute phone call with a Manulife Advisor later

Did gay companies win this month?

NAFO trannies seething lmao.

Hope you sold.

Its time to buy, intelligent bulls are preparing to btfd.

>>55404204
Blow the fucking dick?

>>55404200
Tumorous niggers the lot of them. Bad enough /k/ is utter dogshit now.

Some anon told me to check out Mark Meldrum on youtube last month and that boomer accidentally and inversely called the top. On the 14th he said that the AI shit was going to be even worse than the dot com boom and could easily run till the end of the year.

>>55404228
A lot of them became mods/jannies, which helps them enforce it. But who am I kidding? It's all a plausibly deniable front for yuropoor glowniggers.

>>55404249
He also top-ticked closing his SPX short position I think. Bear market rallies are brutal.

>>55404198
everyone deserves pizza anon
everyone
even you

Bros, the fuck happened? Why are stocks dropping??? My AMZN stocks are getting heemed, fuck fuck fuck.

Damn, is Kelly Evans pregnant again?

Am I stupid or does NCLH just seem like an obvious buy right now? It's down ~5% in sympathy with CCL but has no news of its own, and CCL itself is only down because of "sell the news" on its earnings beating expectations.

Natty gas bros...

What happens to options purchased before a stock split? Like BOIL options before the reverse split, do they appreciate accordingly? What if you sold a call and have less than 100 shares now?

>>55404280
Quick, sell everything

>>55404270
Yeah I think that was the same video kek.

>>55404297
When's earnings for nchl?

SQQQ long-term holders rejoice
The blessed days and months are finally upon us

>>55404333
Not until August, so there's no danger of a similar "sell the news" scenario in the short term.

what the FUCK determines the yield of long term bonds? I get short term thats the fed, but long?

FED confirmed 2 more rate hikes this year, so buying pressure pretty much stopped once the pivot/halt narrative fell apart.

Stocks will slowly sell off for the remainder of the year, until we gap down significantly to start the cycle all over again.

I'm going to sell some of my most profitable positions now rather than wait for the slow bleed.

it was a red thurs, fri, and mon for VTI. I figured it was time to slurp a few more shares

>>55404362
>pump thru several hikes
>suddenly 2 more is a rally killer
bobo pls get off the meth

>powell speaking
>consumer confidence
>gdp
in other words a typical AAAAAAAHHHHHH OOOOOOOOOOO week before another bullrun

I bought oil a few days ago. I'm positive. Tech trannies seething.

>>55404370
It's true, all my shit is bleeding and I'm not gonna watch it bleed out. Rotating into treasury etfs

>>55404388
>rotating into treasuries when the treasury has to dump more bonds to fund the treasury

>>55404165
Finally decided to put some money into inverse leveraged ETF's... strange how both my bear stocks and bull stocks went up today.

>>55404370
That's why this market is clown market
>market pumps hoping for fed to pivot
>fed hikes
>market pumps because this hike means next time they will pivot
>next time fed hikes again
>market rallies again anywas because this hike means pivot for sure next time
>next time fed pauses but promises a couple more limpdick hikes
>SELL SELL SELL

>>55404374
I SAW A WEREWOLF WITH A CHINESE MENU IN HIS HAND

What's the play this week?

>>55404435
Natgas and BOIL

>>55404350
>fed sets interest rate to 5%
>anon buys a 10 year bond for $1k
>it pays $50/year. It's worth $1k so its yield is 5% (100*50/1000)
>fed sets interest rate to 6%
>anon's bond still pays $5/year but since newer bonds pay more interest, if anon wants to sell it he can only get $900 for it. Now the yield is 100*50/900=5.56%

>>55404400
The only reason the Fed would pivot is because they've broken something. For them to pause rates is bearish because it means the growth is leveling off and the trend should reverse to the downside. This means further rape hikes will probably cause things to fall apart. Did treasuries rally today?

I want to invest in some TSX energy listings. Should I go for IMO or OVV or something else.

Dr Quay is on a mission to save titties, so we can ogle them all day. Support Dr Quay.

Retard market.

>>55404486
paging Dr. Qweeb

>>55404486
Based Dr. Quay

Business, economics, and MBA degrees should be trashed as inefficient. You just buy everything when the Fed says to do so and sell when they tell you to sell.

>>55404511
wait you guys are selling?

>>55404516
why are girls legs so delicious to look at? they look like a food group.

i cant wait to see what price AMD stops dropping at

>>55404552
Will you buy? I greatly regret not holding or buying again when it hit $80

y'all niggas dint make it yet?
shieeeett

>>55404552
As soon as he smiled, the jig was up.

>>55404572
yeah i made it, but also went bald so they kinda even out

FUCK YOU

looks like the dip is being bought. Time for the daily V-shaped recovery brought to you by retail traders. retail traders: Being exit liquidity for as long as markets have existed. That's right bulls thats (You)!

Buying programs?
>ACTIVATED

Well...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55404552
that's it? that's the great white beauty that shall not perish from this earth etc etc?
i rather selena desu

>>55404600
>any day now

What kind of candle is that mumu? can you say it with me? bearish... engulfing... candlestick... that wasn't so hard now was it?

>>55404581
It can still go green before eod

>>55404552
>tooth gap

>>55404629

>>55404496
hipster market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oL5QQ-6sQ0

Bobos got overconfident again, enjoy missing your exit dump.

What countries stocks are worth buying rn (other than US)? Poojeet worth buying?

tsla calls??????

>>55404643
>exit dump
That was the warm up dump (I hope)

>>55404566
i want to see AMD below 90 before i think about getting back into it, unti then im enjjoying my puts on them
>>55404605
>>55404632
the goal is to have kids with her for the god tier genetics and then buy them braces, you arent thinking about the long term investment with your waifus like i am

Thoughts on AAPL? Can it hit $200 by earnings?

>>55404672
I'll give you a warm up dump *defecates on your SQQQ bags so you have to get your hands stinky to sell them*

>>55404704
It seems like it shouldn't so that mean it probably will

>write formula for your current portfolio in TD
>formula is (ticker-cost_basis)*quantity + ... + starting cash
>look at plot to see what it could reverse to
intredasting...

>>55404710
Fukkin rekt

>>55404704
Absolutely, because I just preordered 10,000 of their ski goggles.

>NVDA getting sluuuuuurped
If this shit ends up in the blue, I am gonna go all in on it

>>55404733
>blue
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this but.. you might be colorblind.

>>55404733
>in the blue
Based custom color scheme enjoyer. I ought to switch to cyan-magenta for candles.

>>55404733
>the blue

>>55404743
My current candle colors are bright neon green for up and bright blue for down.

>VIX starting to rise
Feels good man. Anyone know of any good high volatility stocks out right now? Regionals have their bank stress test in a few days so I want to play some of the markets volatility.

>>55404737
>>55404754
Haha I ain't colorblind bros. I saw the dress as black and blue straight away so I passed the test.

>>55404759
I keep things simple with the Sprott Physical VIX Trust

my stock i got stoplossed on sometime ago went down 10% today.

phew

>>55404213
Fake screenshot however.

>>55404195
Fuck it I'm just gonna use you faggots for financial advice from now on

>Have about $65k NW, maybe $6k with (((Manulife))) weighted towards global and international equity since it's a wagie benefit
>Starts with disclosure, dial licensed for Manulife and holistic investing
>Think "Great! I can ask him questions!"
>No
>Get lots of "I understand where you're coming from" when I explain my portfolio choices
>Offered no specific advice, only that he'd email me the whitepapers for the investment funds I had there
IF ITS HOLISTIC WHY WOULDNT YOU DISCUSS THE ECONOMY REE

>>55404812
tl;dr

What a load of shit this market is

>*BANG* *BANG*
CAM ON, MARA!
>*BANG* *BANG*
SCORE SOME FAHKIN' GOALS!
>*BANG* *BANG*

>>55404847
>talk to advisor
>they didn't advise

Seeing a lot of people caught off guard and complaining in SMG today. This makes me even more confident my shorts will play out. dumb money vs smart money sentiment playing out perfectly.

I like that I predicted the market would pump, dump, pump, dump in futures and then pump, dump, pump all day today. I'm a genius.

>>55404812
I tried an advisor once and all they did was shill emerging markets, it didn't last long

SOXS sisters are we loading our bags already or wait 2 more weeks?

>>55404872
Where do you get the chart without subscribing?

>>55404812
if he was able to predict where markets were going he wouldn't be in that job

bought more VTI on sale.

>>55404812
are you telling me I can be a financial advisor and just tell people to buy SPY?

They'll be mad at me for posting this but i don't fucking care. Price target of 3.50$ within 12 months.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230626382586/en/

>>55404891
Sirs. Buy SOXS now and give me more money plz. T SOXL Pajeet

>>55404526
For the same reason we imagine girls have cotton candy between their legs.

>>55404949
its better than cotton candy

Is it Christmas? Why is everything so red and green?

>>55404733
>in the blue

>>55404949
>tfw I found out that girls buttholes smell the same as my butthole
I was very disappointed, but at least anytime I want to sniff a girls butthole now I can just scratch and sniff my own.

INTCel chads, we rise

>>55404901
No but I had concerns that there would be significant drawdown sometime before the next calendar year and thought I should have more weight on fixed income and all I got was "I see where you're coming from".
Fucking useless. I'm not expecting him to predict the market, but I clearly stated a goal and all I got was "I see", not even a nudge on how to achieve that

>>55404989
>not even a nudge on how to achieve that
you already knew about BIL, no duration risk, best fixed income for someone who isn't 70

tech and energy bubble about to pop today

>>55404942
nobody wants your stupid tincans on wheels. I saw a meme about those things falling into a pool in the shopping center and running over toddlers. and don't forget, when a woman wanted to alert the police, and the retarded bot was not responding. complete trash!!!

bobos tell me how long will this downtrend continue?

>>55405012
at least another year

>>55405012
4200 SPX

>>55405012
25 years or until every FBI/DHS/NSA/CIA employee is sent to a military tribunal. Whichever comes first.

>presents
Absolutely bogged lmfao.

>this months gains wiped out in minutes

>>55405012
it will trend downward until it bottoms and trends upward. I have this on good authority.

>this market

Just opened another tranche of KRE shorts.

>>55405049
stop loss my dude. i was saved early by a stoploss this downturn. minimizing risk is #1

what’s this pattern called?

>>55405119
"You listened to glowniggers."

What the FUCK just happened to offices (SLG, VNO)?

Daily reminder to sell before September.

Fuckin gay bullshit market.

wtf was that

Holy fucking shit tomorrow is going to be a blood bath.

>>55405119
"all options goomblers get the rope"

I don't feel too good bros. dumping all day today. Starting to pump in after hours only to continue to dump tomorrow. :(

What the fuck? I went from being up 40% to down 60%

>close at new low of day in minutes from middle of the road.

The day looked so promising earlier this morning....

having puts on a doomping overvalued company is very satisfying

>>55405173
You aren't alone anon :(

The economy is sound and resilient!

I guess the PCE report coming this friday was just released to the jews.

I have monetized all my puts. Waiting to long TLT

*ahem*
Mumus tongue my anus

Whats a good ChatGPT type AI that can give me good trading strategies? Theres gotta be one that exists at this point, or is it hidden behind closed doors by the suits on Wall Street?

Are ya winnin son?

>>55405228
What a stupid question.

>This post generated by 4ChannelGPT

>>55405228
Wall street just manipulates the markets and trades price. They don't need AI when they've got their hands on the controls. Why don't you learn how to trade yourself?

>>55404204
Spent thirty minutes prepping my bull. My portfolio is loving every minute of it.

>>55405254
Because you said it yourself, its manipulated because they get data from brokers on what we have positions on. Learning to trade 'properly' is a fools game, I just need a smarter than me AI to make me rich.

>>55405241
>two figure account

>>55405241
Dont get me wrong anon, im happy your seeing green and have a winning trade, but
>20 dollarydoos

>>55405281
You can just learn how to spot where Wallstreet will buy and sell. It's actually super chill. You make like 8-20 trades a year and make money both ways. No need to use AI. Just ride the wave with the big manipulators instead of fighting them.

>>55405228
Blackrock's Aladdin. And very much behind closed doors.

>>55404581
Have you seen the debt on these cruise companies?
They're zombies. You can trade them, you may even make money trading them, but they are going absolutely nowhere over time, until one day they restructure.

Lol I bought Disney calls, my racism based trading never fails

>>55405305
if it was that easy you'd be rich, but we both know you're not

>>55405228
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar

This is all you need. For example. The trend of consumer confidence is down. The report tomorrow is going to be shit. So you sell before end of day today. You buy after the report is released and shit tanks. Ez game.

>>55405336
Think what you want. I was one of the bobos calling for a pullback at 15400 on the NQ. You know how many here said I was retarded for betting against AI? Once you see what I see you cut through the BS and make it work for you. I'm profitable whether or not you believe me anon.

>>55405228
find a system that suits your personality then just git gud at it.

N

Kill all smallhats

>>55405289
>>55405284
Stop being jealous bros

>>55405289
Compound that gain for a year and see what happens.

maybe it was a bad idea to fomo in last week

Almost time counter trend bias, but not enough memelines have been broken and bobo already caught with their shorts down. Did you buy calls today anon?

>>55405475
>compound +40% per day
yeah good luck keeping that up lmao

I'm gonna make it

>>55405426
Based buncun anon

>>55405492
>buying shitcoins that aren't backed by anything other than speculation

>>55405065
Kek
https://youtu.be/65uuGA2xGwg?t=163

Rocker? If your lurking here in shame I just want you to know, we’re still waiting.

I might be a little bit retarded. I like to eat at Chuy's restaurant (ticker: CHUY) and they have ticker MINI giant storage crates outside.
When should I buy stock in these companies. Now seems like a bad time. Should I just shrug and say "AAAHHHH IM DCA-ING" or wait for something.

>>55405485
I'll buy calls on any company firing stupid diversity hires
>>55405335

>>55405543
What the fuck happened to wypipo....

>>55405557
Well, was CHUY's packed? Its food better or worse than usual? How were the staff?

And if you think they're doing better than other places but don't know about the broader restaurant industry/market, you can always long them alongside shorting their competition.

>>55405289
Anon the Bible says not to belittle others.

>>55405587
The Bible also permits Slavery, I dont think I should go to it for Moral advice.

>>55405601
>The Bible also permits Slavery, I dont think I should go to it for Moral advice.
That is true. It just requires you treat your slaves fairly.

>>55405601
>he hasn't taken the slaverypill
>he'd rather leave savages to their own devices so they can keep destroying anything in their path
lmao

>smg this slow
It really is Over isnt it

>>55405635
When posting is slow like this it means volatility is down, and the market should make steady gains.

>>55405587
/smg/ is actually mentioned in the Bible
Psalm 22:12 “Many bulls surround me; strong bulls of Bashan encircle me”
We’re all gunna make it and buy oil.

>>55405670
>buy oil
>Takes a big, slick, oily (SPR) dump in you're path

>>55405635
Nothing is over till I say it is.
Slurping that copper dip btw. Chile weather + Chile/US deal might just beat this recession FUD we have going on right now

>>55404306
you get made whole and receive an appropriate amount of options and premium attached to them. in the reverse split covered call scenario the buyer receives an option that is now for a limited number of shares depending on the reverse split ratio.

How pumped would the market get if slavery was made legal again?

>>55405691
Copper is a recession play, when recession?

>>55405703
very bullish labor cost overhead would increase EPS significantly

>>55404165
Fucking faggot op really just made the thread to post the goblina

>>55405703
Floyd riots x 100? Yeah, I'm thinking long homebuilders.

>>55405644
>steady gains
or steady losses, or king crab.

>>55405688
Countered.
XOM, CHV, HAL

Plunge protection team stroke the shaft AND cup the balls gat dam!

>>55405767
Based Federal Reserve stacking the deck in our favor.

>>55405644
it means most of the board got heemed and isn't chatty.
i however managed to dump out of SOXS at a profit at the bell, ride SOXL all the way up on the scam pump, then dumped out of my position at the top tick as soon as it started to look wobbly and bought my SOXS position back which i rode all the way back up.

>remember this time i went to go meet my cousin(female)
>all her friends start to show up
>they are basically all 9's and 10's
>fuck
>literally a room full of hot pussy
>I'm basically the only dude there
>shit shit shit
>one of the girls lights up a joint
>anon would you like to join us?
>hit it maybe itll help me cope with this situation
>god damn its so strong
>few mins pass
>have to go sit down
>cant even talk im so high
>everywhere i look there is another 10
>try to go outside to balcony where some girls are chatting
>shitshitshit is this heaven?
>realize im not capable of doing this
>go back inside with spaghetti shooting everywhere

>>55405691
>fud
>crazy bad fundamentals
>literally in a huge ai/tech bubble
>longing the mania top on nividia

Good job nigger faggot

You bought puts, right?

>>55405703
I believe the moral component in outlawing slavery was a luxury afforded on the back of humans discovering more efficient labor methods (industrial revolution+wagies) and it would have little impact at all

>>55405809
I shorted AMZN. Fuck Jeff Bazingos.

>>55405787
Sounds like you may have blown it there. Does weed make women horny?

so glad I sold my entire NVDA and AMD positions last week. heem me once, shame on you. beclown me twice, shame on me.

>>55405831
Yeah I dumped SOXL 7s in the 25s. Not sure when I'm going to grab it again. I will, but I think CPI is about to shit the bed again in July's release.

>>55405869
Also, NVDA insiders are unloading so hard it's impossible to ignore. They clearly think it's overpriced.

>>55405738
Election years are bullish for niggers, and niggers are bullish for single family homes but bearish for commercial properties, how do I profit?

SOXL sissies...we're saved.

>>55405779
>it means the board got heemed and isn't chatty
baseless conspiracy theories like this won't get you anywhere in life.

Another day. Another day of afternoon napping. Another day of KO share bagging during the morning. They pay me for doing "nothing". Life is hard..but oh well someone's gotta do it.

>>55405820
yeah

>>55405820

>>55405893
>that first block cooming in at 150.10
>and then ANOTHER at 153.30
this isn't getting saved this is a degenerate at a hedge fund who top ticked a scam pump twice and then tried to average down massively at the end of day. when his breakeven doesn't come he'll be fired tuesday afternoon.

>People leaving /smg/ don't know they are here forever.

If slavery were made legal again overhead labour costs would drop to nothing. Putting niggers in chattel slavery again would humble the race.

Captcha NGJ KKK

The fuck happened to TSLA to drop 6% on no news? The downgrades are so fucking obvious for short positions

Gonna ask a stupid question here before i make a thread. When a private day trader forms a corp/llc what kind of company is it? Its not a hedge fund or asset management right? What would it be called?

>that russell 2k dump into close

>>55406097
It was a small crap

>>55406098
Trading entity or daytrading LLC

>HA! I'll manage diversification by investing in a few ETFs covering lesser known markets!
>They all invest in banks

For FUCKS sake.

>>55406098
incorporating is retarded as fuck are you allergic to capital gains?

>>55406098
forming a llc/corp/protected legal entity for trading serves no purpose unless you're managing other people's money

>>55406112
So when naming the company it would be “xyz trading inc/llc”? Or like “xyz private investments inc/llc”? Or am i retarded and the name is completely irrelevant and trading entity is all its defined as?
Im only asking cause i was curious what denotes a firm/fund/capital/mutual/financial/etc in companies names and couldn’t find an answer for a private day trader corp/llc

>>55406139
>>55406141
See
>>55406158

>>55405601
>>55405615
Where in the Bible is this permission written ?

>futures

>>55406182
The part where Yahwey says
ayo nigguh
get yo ass to work nigguh
imma woop yo ass niggguh

> massive pump at open
> slowly drift back down into red by EOD
I'm tired.

>>55404350
Inflation expectations; because a long term bond is a long term loan and the lender wants a positive REAL return on the amount they give

And second is growth expectation, if growth(gdp) is high, loans/debt/credit will be in high demand and so lenders can charge more, especially if it's risky like in developing countries

The fed has very little control over long term bond yields. They are almost entirely controlled by lenders and lendees negotiating loan contracts

>>55406182
All over the place. There are many instructions for owning slaves and the slaves should obey if they are good people.

>>55406195
Amen

>Lost $622 USD Dollars today
Enough is enough

look at all the bulls so unhappy with dumping after an insane parabolic move. You can't make this shit up

>>55406249
I didnt benefit much from that parabolic move. My whole portfolio was already down because I took profits too early and the stuff I still held never made it above cost basis during that move.
:(

>>55406214
Reading those verses it sounds like those slaves had rights. Not the Hollywood version of slavery .

what is the current bear thesis?
>poor cpi nums
>more rate hikes
anything else or is that pretty much it?

>>55406277
line went up therefore line go down

>>55406249
Stocks are supposed to grow in value over time.

>>55404516
Man I remember those days. Long gone.
t. married 13 years.

>>55406096
I don’t know man. I sold today. Still made a few grand. I’m not riding that shit down again. I’m taking my beans this time.

>>55406277
>Everything sucks and I hate myself

>>55406288
if you look at SMG, you'd think it was supposed to be in a straight line.

>>55406277
Fundamentals aren’t there. Market is trading on hope and AI meme. Narrow gains drawing bears back in. Eventually it has to shake out.
Is this it? Who knows. We’ll only know in retrospect.
I got out with the Smart Money” months ago, refuse to be lured back in for a few points gain.
We’ll see.

>>55406195

>>55406187
source? is the finnish bear cosplaying as dbz gotenks ghost?

>Futures

>>55406141
Not true, can be mark to market and not hit wash sales

>>55406329
>Is this it?
Nope. While people are rightfully nervous, the market fundamentals haven't changed. There has to be a large event that shocks the market into being bullish or bearish. It doesn't matter what the event is, whether it's Chinese aggression, total Russian defeat, another pandemic, or a bank failure - but it has to be significant.
Since the 4m and 6m treasuries are still the highest, I expect some slight/moderate bull activity until Oct-Dec, then something will break and we'll plunge down to 240-300 SPY. I know that sounds extreme, but if we're following picrel, that's where it is (as well as fib levels).
If I had to bet on something specifically, then interest rates will continue upwards, boomers that bought investment properties on collateral will realize they can't service their debts, and start foreclosing. This would tank the equities market out of fear of contagion, and bring crypto down low, too. At this point, Blackrock's BTC etf would go live and then they can swoop in and own a huge chunk of it as well as single detached homes. I firmly believe the great reset will happen, it's just a matter of specifics and when.

Turbo green tomorrow

>>55406067
>smell like very bad fart
Based fart sniffer. I think I’ll look this girl up.

>>55406360
Mount Celeb Kaneda-San
It is a gag manga
She is swallowing a cat ghost

>>55406389
Short squeeze week begins tommorow

>>55406158
Name it >X Digital Services
You're providing services (investments) via digital means (electronic buy/sell orders) for distinct legal entities from the business (yourself)
t. not a lawyer

>>55406319
Here’s a straight line for you

What are the hip new restaurants that are popular with the young people? Would be cool if we could identify the Starbucks or Chipotle of the 2020s. I want to invest in goyslop but I don't know if the traditional fast food giants really have much more room to expand.

>>55406393
sublime, based

>>55406387
so what is going to break exactly? like you said something needs to break

>>55406198
I know that feel, bro. I know that feel.

>>55406500
glad you like it

>>55406519
I don't think it matters what breaks. Look at 2008, it started with subprime defaults, but had a ripple effect across derivatives and other markets. Something will break eventually and it will drag the market down with it. I'm trying to move to fixed income and cut losses and take profits now, even if it means missing what I perceive to be a bull trap. You can absolutely make money both ways and it will probably rally for 2-3 months first

>>55406519
Nothing really "broke" for the dot-com bubble. Unless you could some roughly-adjacent-in-time rate hikes which, wouldn't you know, for 2023...

My aggressive investment account (30% portfolio): Up 6% YTD
My conservative investment account (70% portfolio): Up around 30% YTD

I think that aggressive choices are a meme. You do a lot better when betting safely because losers drag down your overall performance. Yeah I have gains of 60% in my aggressive account but they're weighed down hard by stuff that cancels it out with losses or hard crabbing. Choosing something with smaller but consistent growth is way better. I think I'm just gonna sell all this garbage and put it into my conservative main account

>>55406491
CAVA, but will it be just another SHAK? Who knows?

Also anyone know if Rocker is here? I got a question for him.

>>55406543
>>55406545
do we expect the hiking to resume at next fomc, could that be catalyst for dumping?

>>55406574
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html

As long as the F.E.D.Watch prices in a hike, they'll hike. Currently we're at 74% odds.

>>55406548
Sounds like you're just a bad trader.

>>55404409
KEK

>>55406548
Unless I have a lot of time on my hands to focus on the market my short term trades usually barely make a profit. Im just not good enough to do it part time. Long term for me only

>>55406407
>>55406389
I believe this. I was just telling my friend whatever is going to catch the most people off guard will happen next. However I see too many bullish news articles still to be fully sold just yet, I want to see just a few more “Is This The Next Leg Down?”’s before Im absolutely sure the next leg up is here.

Fuck wheat and WEATfags. The Corn Crisis is here.

>>55406638
Who do you think they want to read those headlines? The mom & pops & retail investors/traders. When you see a bunch of bullish or bearish articles all at once, thats when you know the smart money is exiting and taking the other side of the trade. Smart money doesn't read stupid finance journo articles.

>>55406649
The fuck happened in 1988

>>55406389
>>55406407
>>55406638
>>55406651
Uh. Short squeeze on fucking what?

>>55406687
deez nuts lmao gottem

>>55406676
>He doesn’t know about the great wheat collapse.

>>55406687
No idea what they're talking about. The pullback will continue for a week or two.

>>55406676
What happened to the Jews in 1944?

>>55406696
I mean I could get 1989 or 1991 because of all the shit happening globally, but 1988 feels really random for just a total collapse in wheat production and quality. Some kind of pestilence outbreak?

>>55406697
I want you to be right, please be right

>>55406711
Very severe drought. Much like... this year.

>>55406724
wont happen all at once. there will be green days in between. But we're going to go lower.

>>55406687
Tech and natty gas

>>55406724
Are you seriously a permabear? You know shorting something or trying to time an entry is way harder than just holding, right?

>>55406519
Student loans with 3 years of unpaid interest are about to be re-dumped on the american public in a few months

>>55406592
yea and im sure youll be a billionaire soon with your massive gains

>>55406750
The unpaid interest was not added to the loan balances. Yes, this means the past few years of inflation have been a stealth bailout.

>>55406750
Bro just tell me if stock go up or down
Student loan unpaid interest whatever man speak in english

>>55406750
You idiot, the interest was paused the whole time and the supreme court is about to give everyone a $10,000 bailout
>>55406777 (checked)
digits of truth

>>55406782
A bunch of assclowns are now going to have a $400/mo expense dropped on their rainbow wigs. What do you suspect that would do to overall spending capabilities of Americans?

>>55406158
You're not going to get any actual legal advice here. Having looked into it a bit in the past, this is my rough understanding:

The naming conventions required may depend on the jurisdiction you incorporate in. LLC is a basic structure you can declare to protect against personal assumption of business debts, but it can be organized as a corporation, s-corp, passthrough partnership, or a sole proprietorship which is essentially a non-entity where you just pay taxes as normal but have a separate business name (and liability protection).
I believe hedge funds are generally structured as partnerships, although they tend to be more complex and have multiple layers, sometimes involving international subsidiaries to minimize tax burden.

As others have said, for you as an individual trader this stuff is most likely a complete waste of time. At least that's the conclusion I came to. As a sole proprietor forming a disregarded entity, it's just added documentation and fees for little to no real benefit. Treating as a passthrough entity will mean even more documentation, sending yourself a k-1 which will end up flowing back to the same taxes. You could maybe bypass state income taxes this way, but they probably have exceptions to close such loopholes. Corporations are taxed at a flat rate of 21% which may be lower than your tax rate, but then to cash anything out you're either paying yourself salary or dividends - both taxed.
You'd also be dealing with self-employment tax of ~15% on top of every other tax. This is social security + medicare that you get to bypass contributing into as long as you treat yourself as a passive investor.
On the upside, with many of these structures you can potentially contribute large portions of any profits into 401ks or equivalent - around 60k is the cap.

>>55406796
fingers crossed for mass mortgage defaults

im getting gibs at the mo, how can i find a cash in hand job? what sort of industries might pay me under the table?

>>55406802
>>55406158
the idea is to pay the money to yourself as dividends though, which only makes sense if all your trades are short term capital gains

>>55406818
Careful, anon, the jannies have been on a hair trigger about off topic posting lately. Perhaps restate your question alongside a pic of your portfolio's current holdings, suggesting you'll buy some DASH or whatever.

>>55406812
let the bodies hit the floor etc.

>>55406732
Corn, or wheat? I'm thinking the latter.

>>55406782
People who didn't have to pay their debt will now vote for Biden again because he'll promise to pause it again. This leads high oil prices again and China invades Taiwan and stockmarket goes down then it goes up

>>55406869
>stockmarket goes down then it goes up

>>55406818
i get gibs at the moment and i work part time like 20 hours a week i told the gubment that is what me and my doctor discussed and they said ok and now they let me work while getting gibs

>>55406869
>China invades Taiwan and stockmarket goes down
>then it goes up
Burgers will either cuck out, lose the little credibility they have left and give the NIGGS countries free reign to take over. Or they get into an armed conflict with Chyna. When exactly will the stock market go up in this scenario?

>>55406898
>When exactly will the stock market go up in this scenario
I mean, after the markets tank, that would be them discovering the fair market value of equities in response to the news. In other words, it gaps to account for risk premium, then continues to trend upwards. Besides that, war is generally bullish.

>>55406898
>then it goes up
Temporary battlefield success, massive printing to fund the war industry, backed by QE from Fed Chair Krugman.

>>55406875
yeah but the fuckers will reduce or end my payments if i get a job, but i need moar money

>>55406829
That's another factor. You could keep your longer term positions outside the entity, but you'd have to know ahead of time what those might be.
Technically as long as you don't realize the gain or receive dividends from your stocks, there should be no taxes even at corp level. Think Berkshire Hathaway with their stock holdings. Objectively it's inferior to holding them personally though - at some point you'll almost certainly have to pay those corp taxes to see any liquidity benefit from the gains. Only alternative would be to take a margin loan against those stocks, and hope that the gains will outgrow the margin interest in perpetuity.

In truth the best way to avoid taxes is simply to head to puerto rico. If you're bringing in enough gains to care about any of this shit, it could be worth it to spend a few years down there and pay into their cap gains exemption program. I'm not quite there yet - maybe next decade.

>>55406929
they were threatening me and made me contact them but when i told them i was just following the advice of a medical professional they said ok nevermind and now keep paying me and stopped asking questions

>>55406182
>Where in the Bible is this permission written ?
It's implied because there are rules on how to treat your slaves. Like, the Bible wouldn't give you tips on how to best steal things. That would mean stealing is ok.

>/smg/ coping that things are bullish
welp, time to go short.

>>55405349
nta , but I believe you anon

Alright SMG

What do you think student loans are going to do to the market and retail

>>55406818
If you get VA gibs you can still work. Even at 100% disability. Downside is you have to join the military and play the system. Plus side is that you'll get hired as a "disabled" vet anywhere. The max is 36k tax free, and you don't pay taxes on most shit.

Gen X had it so easy bros
>just buy any computer company stock as dotcom bubble ends
>hold for comfy 15-20 years
>be rich

what do we have now? A bunch of crap AI spacs and tech stocks you missed out on. Fuck gen X.

>>55407071
a reason will be found to postpone them until post election.

>>55407077
Gen X doesn't get enough hate desu senpai.

>>55407077
You've got it easy right now. Just buy AI. Hold for comfy 15-20 years and be rich
You won't tho. hippocrite.

>>55407087
>Gen X doesn't get enough hate desu senpai.

>>55406750
people are already getting his hard by the standard deductible getting cut in half this year
this is going to hurt

>>55407077
you could have bought any tech stock in 2022 and made 30-50% nigga

and oil stocks went 100s of percent in 2020

>>55407077
You could have bought SOXL 10 years ago and made like 100x, faggot why didn't you?

>>55407141
Jeez, take it easy and listen to some Nirvana or something.

this week has been foretold to me.

>>55407158
kurt was a faggot who ruined a generation, which in turn made your generation twice as faggoty

someone bake so I can post my thing

Zerohedge have now flipped into permabulls and think the S&P is going to new all time highs. Consider this information carefully

>>55407185
Double top and then violent cascade back to the 2020 support line.

>>55407077
Millennials and zoomers will die screaming while gen x and boomer knowers talk about how hard it was in the 1980s/1990s. Kek.

>>55407158
>Jeez, take it easy and listen to some Nirvana or something.

>>55407184
Jannies have been cracking down on pre-bump-limit bakes due to how slow the crypto pits have been lately. Baking right at 300 often gets the new thread deleted now.

Any broadband stocks pump today on the 42 billion funding announcement?

>>55407206
those fuckin fags. I've been on a sabbatical for the last couple weeks. anything else I've missed?

>>55407206
They sound salty af

>>55407184
everyone that bakes before page 10 gets banned because the jannies are literally trying to kill the board

>>55407235
probably angry they lost their allowance on crypto

>>55407251
posting pretty asian girls with your posts even if it's on topic is now considered off topic because it triggers them
since they will never be a woman

>>55407185
definitely the top

It's literally going to be just fine tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fQc57t7VSA

>>55407185
>Zerohedge have now flipped into permabulls

>>55407312
>>55407312
>>55407312

>>55407185
>Zerohedge have now flipped into permabulls and think the S&P is going to new all time highs.
got some examples?

>>55407206
Good.

>>55407363
https://archive.is/OR7L7

>>55407432
jfc.
i always avoided these types of "articles" on ZH.
good thing they are now putting them behind a paywall.
who reads all this and actually tries to make sense of all the squiggly?!?!?!

>>55406491
Greggs

>>55404552
Once the AI hype is fully killed I could see it back at $50

>>55407446
In the article they try to refute all of Mike Wilson's bear arguments. Zerohedge's conclusion is that fundamentals don't matter anymore, the only thing that matters is liquidity. And since the Fed keeps injecting liquidity that means that markets will never go down again

>>55407882
It was true in March. Dunno when it's gonna stop being true though

>>55407912
I still don't understand how the liquidity narrative works. Is it that banks are using BTFP to take out loans and then invest that in the market?

>>55407954
>I still don't understand how the liquidity narrative works.
idk.
and probably nobody really does.
most of it is probably just made up garbage.