/biz/ - Business & Finance

luv me krugs

>>55351290

>>55351296
hearty kek

I picked up 11.1g of sterling and .66g of 10k gold at a charity shop yesterday, $8 for about $25 in metal. Better than nothing but it would take forever to build a hoard of fiddly bits like these. Heading out again soon to look for better cheapies, happy hunting frens.

>Gold keeps going down in spot price

"Cheapie days are comin, cheapie days are comin, cheapie days are comin, always buy the price dips".

https://youtu.be/_miyY-TWSaA

>>55351487
how did you identify the purity before buying it? Did you examine it for production marks with a jeweler's loupe?

Is it just me or are the prices at JM Bullion crazy high? They're charging $2,106.82 for a 2023 1oz Gold Eagle while Liberty Coin is only charging $2,031.40 for the same coin.

>>55351604
yeah they're getting more and more like apmex
liberty coin is awesome

>>55351604
It's just you. they've put in an exception just for your IP address, knowing you'll buy anyway.

>>55351604
really hit or miss. absolute shit for things like noah's ark coins. seems decent for the gold elephant coins.

>>55351604
They probably bought their own 2023 eagle supply at a higher price and aren't willing to sell at a loss. Some doofus at the company bought the peak

>>55351604
They went full apmex a year or so back when the provident merger went through. I think amark owns them? Consolidation should scare the shit out of all of us

>>55351604
Refresh ip by clearing history, putting phone on airplone mode, reclearing all vrowsing data then repeat. Hotels have been known to do the price increases after each website visit.
I farted on a jew
Simple as

Krugs are a golden tradition

I am simply....... Crestfallen.

>>55351572
When I buy scrap silver I try to stick to sterling, with the punchmark on it, says either .925 or sterling. I avoid plated silver and don't appreciate that much.

>>55351300
they're the prettiest of the common gold coins. its a fact

silver bros... just had to beg for my job back.. it was so humilating bros... boss agreed but is oging to pay me 20% less than i was making before...

any particular reason why PMs are dumping?

>>55351705
You have to shop around. Stores aren't obligated to give you the lowest price on everything. I have a local shop that beats about 50% of online prices. I asked them if they'd match and they said "no". No worries. I'll get that stuff elsewhere.

>>55351726
>They probably bought their own 2023 eagle supply at a higher price
This too. Again, I don't begrudge anyone a profit.

>>55351858
because I'm buying this weekend and God wants me to be happy.

>>55351845
never beg, anon. Should have said see ya. You need to start looking for a new job asap, and get away from that place. Your soul will die a little everyday you return

>>55351858
Could be for many different reasons, from governments selling off gold (like Russia has due to invasion of Ukraine), or ETF's flooding the market because the banksters have more gold now. All that matters is stacking before the inevitable gold revaluation.

>>55351858
Dollar is stronger which drives metals down

>>55351956
>Dollar is stronger which drives metals down
Its not that this time around, the price of gold is also down in British Pounds.

>>55351970
none of these movements mean much
it's all just noise
people will end up saving like $20 on an ounce of gold waiting for these dips
wow so huge. not

rate

1/2

>>55352106
2/2

>>55351572
It's all hallmarked and visible to the naked eye, the stamps on earring posts are quite tiny but I can make them out with sufficient lighting. Having a loupe handy is always good though. Much easier with chunkier silverware of course.

1878 Morgan or Mexican silver Peso? I have the cash for one at a pawn shop, they both pinged. Morgan was $35 and the Peso was in a bucket that sold world silver for $1 a gram

>>55351858
So we can buy moar!

>>55352078
Well I'm planning to buy several dozen more gold krugs, so it all adds up, and eventually it amounts to an extra coin.

Babby’s Stacker Starter Set

Babby’s Stacker Starter Set

>>55352161
Fuckin pesos go for more than that online unless it's just in really poor condition. Both are pretty good price

putting in another order if we get 22.99 today

>>55352184
U a euro?

>>55351956
But surely interest rates are peaking now. I thought lower rates = higher gold price?

>>55352237
The fed will keep hiking

>>55351858
>any particular reason why PMs are dumping?
Normies (the vast majority of people) see inflation reports are better, economy is continuing to pick up (albeit slowly), and investing seems to be back on the menu for financial growth (rather than hoarding PMs for stability of wealth).
inb4 "Prices are skyrocketing! Financial collapse! Hunter Biden! " etc. Yeah, yeah... Those who suffer the most are the least likely to have an impact on markets and PMs.

>>55352226
I am several things, but the only important bit is that I have got to turn all my euro toilet paper money into gold, before the banking apocalypse.

>>55352243
doubt it
banks are already collapsing from what we have now

>>55352222
Quads of truth, I'll go for the peso. Hope it's still there. they also had a somewhat poor condition reichmark for the same price and a bunch of canadian stuff. Is the cutoff date for Canadian silver 1967 as far as quarters and dimes?

>>55352254
it's cute you think normie retail money has any effect on this market

>>55352376
It's cute you think Reddit and 4Chan have much sway in the Comex and overall PM market.

>>55352371
Dot plot has another .5 baked in. Last two banks that failed were hit jobs by the feds.

>>55352376
(You) are retarded

>>55352408
What if an cyber polygon happened (that's totally not the feds) and then an banking apocalypse.

>>55351845
Why did you leave? Did you believe that silver was going to moon in two weeks? I was meming back in 2021 about quitting once MOASS seemed imminent lol

>>55352536
Some new form of digital slavery will rise from the ashes. There might be a period of time in between monetary systems when pms moon, and it will be your time to cash in and acquire hard assets such as real estate and boi pucci

I thought the economy was supposed to crash this summer :(

>>55352649
i've bought enough rms now to have prevented that future, anon.

>>55352649
2 more years at this rate for Biden to sell off the US oil reserves.

>>55351300
I want a 88 krug so badly, that's my birth year

>>55352790
He's trying to collapse the salt caverns

>>55352649
Summer starts on June 21st. Also something big seems planned for August.
https://www.attali.com/en/finance-2/crisis/
Obviously the Fed can crash the economy anytime they want, but I wonder if they'll instead play the cyber polygon card, and try to deflect the blame.

Show me your naughtiest stack. No fucking games. I like it hardcore.

>>55352838
You're creepy, mister! I bet you're that coomer who's banging the fat chicks!

>>55352863

No teasing and no sass, post your fat stacks.

>>55352808
I've always believed that BRICS would change things up but after 22 years of doing nothing but empty promises I've come to realize that they won't do shit.

Coupled with Russia suiciding it's army in Ukraine. China and India having an armed conflict with each other. South Africa collapsing because of incompetent leadership that can't even keep the lights running. Only Brazil is doing okay out of the BRICS countries.

And now with the US ban global chip ban against China China's economy will never be able to catch up.

>>55352891
China is super fucked
SA is mega fucked
The other 3 are halfway ok

>>55352649
The economy has crashed, 4 out of 5 of the largest bank failures in history happened in 2023, with the other one happening in 2008. The only reason everything keeps on plodding along is because governments and banksters know how to swindle the public by socializing the loses. Ultimately, this only ends when the masses refuse to use the debt note because the establishment can print to infinity. When will that be? Fuck knows, but we're not at the stage where people are disgusted to trade with it. This crack up boom needs a nasty jolt, with the only major one being the flooding of USD through de-dollarization that creates a panic out of it. Expect at that point for the propaganda from the state to be fired on all cylinders, and the state dependents crying to maintain the illusion of a stable economy.

>>55352891
Global economies are large ships that take time to change direction. That means years or even decades to do.

>>55352957
The rumors of the USDs death are greatly exaggerated.

AHHHHHHHH STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME!!!!!!!

>>55352398
The silver market is so small that only 7 bullion dollars are enough to drain the comex. Right now solar panels are draining the supply but it takes years to open up new mines and the price needs to be higher to do that. WSS has 250k subs, if they all buy a tube of rounds each they could drain the comex with 2% just with that.

>>55352891
It doesn't even matter if the BRICS take over the world or not. The fact is that the USD is finished as a reserve currency. The bankers have known this for decades, and Catherine Austin Fitts has several nice interviews about that subject (planetlockdownfilm.com)
But they need to transition somehow to something else (likely a CBDC). The transition will be messy because there's so much debt floating around, much more debt than real assets. But they need people to still trust them somehow, so I'm guessing they'll just try to deflect the blame like they have a long history of doing. Otherwise I don't see how they can remain in control, if nobody trusts them after having their life savings wiped out due to Fed policy. At that point people would just start using silver and/or Cu/Ni coins.

>>55353062
that's true

>>55353002
We're no where near that critical point because there isn't a parallel global economy competing with US hegemony. This is why BRICS is talked a lot here because it represents a viable alternative. There has never been an alternative to the economic might of the United States until this past decade with China. The nation has more people than the United States and is currently the world's factory. That economic position is a threat to the United States that is also bolstered by other nations wanting to join that bloc. In short, the G7 is Europe with the US as top dog while BRICS is other global power houses with China as the top dog. The minor nations of the world will have a choice, the G7 or BRICS and considering how many of them have seen the USD being used as a political tool, you will find that they will choose BRICS instead. 2050 is when I think BRICS will be fully up and running, so dropping fiat for precious metals is the only way to preserve your wealth in this transitional period which is has only just started.

>>55353103
yes, the time to buy metals is NOW
not when BRICS is fully up and running
just incase we have any slow ones in here

>tfw laid off from job
>tfw scrambling to find a new one so I can continue stacking

I hate this feeling like I'm missing out, I'm so close to 200 oz as well

>>55353103
China is fucked economically and demographically. They're panicking right now because their economic model is dead, killed by Pooh bear. The world's factory is closed, xi doesn't give a shit he did it. The whole financial system is even more fucked up by debt than anything in the west. You really believe the propaganda, it's sad bro. Shits changed with Xi. It's not even about economics with the USD. It's about how large and freely traded it is. The bond market is huge, no one has been able to replicate it. USTs get traded back and forth many multiples more than they get held as a reserve. Trillions of contracts get written in USD. Everyone of those nations financial and legal systems is closed opaque and corrupt.

Slurrrrrrrrrrrp

>>55352838
Not mine, but this is a good tiddy stack.

Hi /pmg/
My Mint has some interesting pieces but they are 1/20 oz. I was told to never buy below 1/4 and make few exceptions for 1/10. But I'm now venturing in 1/20 territory and the premiums are damn high. What do frens?

This dip is nice but it's nothing crazy. I'll just buy 10oz.

>>55353204
>Only 13% premium
Very nice. That's better than 1/4 gold coins at my lcs.

>>55351290
>order first gold coin ever
>buy AU random date liberty head from Liberty Coin because it's on sale on fleaBay and seems decently priced
>says the packaging is "protected plastic flip"
>recieve AU55 PCGS stabbed 1898-S liberty head
>allegedly worth $725 but only paid $559
Today was a good day bros

>>55353271
Based liberty
Bet the shipping was quick too

>>55353189
>China is fucked economically and demographically.

You bloody well know it's more complicated than that. The reality is that when you remove the fiat numbers bullshit, China has a much bigger manpower economy with the factories to back it up. That's what happens when you de-industrialize, you're more about consumption than production.

Anyway, the situation we have now isn't going to be the situation in the next ten years. Economies are slow turning ships and the west is already in the process of building nuclear power plants to bring those production factories back home. Will it be enough? I dunno. I just know that this game of empire is a race against the clock.

>>55353232
You think that's smol? Check these out!

>>55353324
And then there's this tiny roo.

how should you store silver long term?
Should each round have a capsule?

>>55353219

Welp... that's probably the naughtiest stack I'll ever see.

>>55353348

They don't have to. You can put them in a tube.

>>55353232
You don't buy gold coins that size, simple as. When you're dealing with such small weights, you're better off just stacking grains in a small tube.

>>55353314
They followed the wests economic model but it's stopped. They can't stimulate domestic consumption now and there's only so much tofu dreg infrastructure and fake cities you can borrow trillions on to stimulate the economy. The factories are closed, youth unemployment is a reported 20% and worst of all they're not fucking and having babies. After 40 years of population control, they are super fucking fucked. Kids are extremely expensive for chinks. You have to pay for everything in China. No one can afford them. The nation is communist in name only, the state controls you, but doesn't take care of you at all. There is hyper wealth disparity and the average wage is something like 12k USD a year. China is fucked.

>>55353314
The west is building NPPs? Where?

>>55353348
I put mine in the attic where the warm moist air keeps them comfy. And rubberbands to get them from scattering around.

>>55353341
>>55353324
How far down are you willing to go?

>>55353428
In terms of size

>>55353428
Oh, and I almost forgot these cute clovers, also 1/2 gram.

>>55353189
turn off the Fox News
anyone saying "Pooh bear" is instantly put in the retard box

>>55353481
So "do not buy below 1/10oz" is just a meme?

>>55353388
everything you say is bad about china is 10x worse in the US so what the fuck is your point

>>55353477
I've only ever bought 1 oz krugerrands, to keep premiums low. But my mom gave me this (4 grams), so that's the smallest I've got.

>>55353481
Cute anime girls

>>55353492
Fox doesn't report on this.
>>55353506
Demographically, the us isn't fucked near as hard as Chyna. In pretty good shape comparatively. If you do some actual digging, you'll find the Chinese economic miracle developmentally is over. Xi has no desire to continue it and is actively killing it.

>>55353481
Wait that's real gold? What's their diameter?

>>55353394
>The west is building NPPs? Where?
UK. Though it appears the process has recently been stunted. You will have to forgive me on that detail as I didn't know about that until now.

>>55353649
Germoney is packing all their chemical factories up and moving them to Louisiana

>>55353388
Why do you keep on talking past my points anon? The conversation I'm having with you is about economic might outside of the fiat bullshit numbers, but you always refrain from engaging in that.

>>55353265
Yeah, 13% for sovereign is about as good as it gets for retail. Gold I try to find around 7%, but it's tough if you're buying eagles

>>55353405
>And rubberbands to get them from scattering around
Ah so you're the one who's responsible for those marks on that anon's 20 francs helvetia! The mystery is solved at last.

>>55353495
I guess if you don't stack silver (for tax reasons or whatever) then small fractional gold can have a purpose. Earlier this year someone posted a pic of his pelican case full of gold combi bars. Didn't save that pic unfortunately.

>>55353565
They belong to a lucky irish anon (not me).

Ok, which one of you posted the previous OP pic on /g/
>>>/g/94182421

>>55353696
In the US? seems kinda steep from European perspective.

>>55353428

.1 gram

>>55353695
Having this blind faith that the extremely corrupt highly dysfunctional developmentally retarded brics are going to massively change your wealth level because you bought some lottery ticket silver coins is both hilarious and pathetic.

>>55353711

It wasn't me.

>>55353704
>I guess if you don't stack silver
I do, actually I don't own gold. But that 1/20oz piqued my interest. The premium is nuts tho

>>55353576

>>55353751
What's available in 0.1 gram lol

>>55353495
Depends entirely on premium.
But premiums tend to be high unless you buy small things in larger quantities.
e.g. can find these for a bit over 10% premium, if bought as single piece 20%+ is more likely.

>>55353745
7% is steep? That's about market for a 20 franc. You don't even know what the boomers are doing to the eagle market my guy.

>>55353802
Oooh 50 cent army showed up to carry china's water. Nice.

>>55353771
Aha, you must be the "I'm off my meds" frogposter!

>>55353754
I don't have blind faith in China, I know it's a massive corrupt shit heap making itself out to be bigger than it actually is. However, if it truly was all lies then why do we all buy our shit from there and the world constantly talks about China as if we're dependent on it.

As for the rest of your comment, this has nothing to do with BRICS, only the cycles of empires. The transition from the USD to BRICS will be no different than the transition from the British Pound to the USD.

>>55352891
You are thinking about this backwards. The worse the BRICS are doing, the MORE likely they turn to gold. When the government farms in the USSR failed and the people were starving (and not just the ones Stalin wanted to starve) the government had to buy wheat from Canada. But the ruble was a joke. They had to use GOLD!

Gold is the one thing all the BRICS have that everyone values. And they don't have to have much of a functioning economy to use it. They just push it off a truck. The more they struggle, the more likely they turn to it. And they are not the only ones expecting gold to come into play. Central Bank gold purchases around the globe are hitting record levels. That's not so they can make jewelry.

Gold is on the move. Get your share now at the bargain price.

>>55353918
wow very smart take

>>55353002
Famous last words. Every empire ends. Every fiat currency collapses. The question is never "will it?" but always "WHEN will it?" When it does it will be overnight. And don't expect Joe Biden to warn you. The US government hates you and would kill you and feed you to the hogs if it was even slightly convenient. You are on your own and you had better not be complacent or you will be sucking dicks for millet cakes, if you haven't been turned into pemmican.

That's was fun to write!

>>55353828
未来属于中国的。

你所说的每一句话都可以在法庭上作为指控你的不利证据。

>>55353858
China is more dependent on the west and specifically the us to buy their shit. They haven't been able to advance past their initial spectacular industrialization where small pockets make fortunes because the majority are working for peanuts in the sweat shops. Xi stopped the economic engine. Closed all the factories for years and the world is moving on.
All those nations on your pol graph follow common law where the financial and legal systems aren't based on whim and diktat. None of the financial and legal systems of brics are open and transparent.
>>55353918
This system they are trying to implement is more of a hail Mary than any kind of way to return to honest money. It's the no counter party risk that appeals to them. Guaranteed they will manipulate and control it in unpredictable ways that benefit those in power.

>>55353964
So what if the Saudis are taking Juans for oil. They also have been turning around and buying USD for yuan so they can actually buy shit lol

>>55352184

>>55353817
>>Pic Rel.

>>55353837
Ya, I've been schizo-postimg all over /biz/ for about 5 weeks now. Feel like going back to normal now. Well, only a little bit...

>>55353972
>China is more dependent on the west and specifically the us to buy their shit. They haven't been able to advance past their initial spectacular industrialization where small pockets make fortunes because the majority are working for peanuts in the sweat shops. Xi stopped the economic engine. Closed all the factories for years and the world is moving on.
>All those nations on your pol graph follow common law where the financial and legal systems aren't based on whim and diktat. None of the financial and legal systems of brics are open and transparent.

How many times does it need pointing out that BRICS is a developing alternative world economy to the G7 and USD as a world reserve currency. Right this very moment we're on the cusp on a potential change with China being the big dog in it. It's going to take decades if the world continues on the trajectory that it is. I fully admit that there will be complications along the way and could easily fail, but that's all huff in the wind to think about when none of that has happened, regardless of China currently having growing pains with its economy.

>>55354059
It's more of an extensional crisis than mere growing pains.

>>55353972
>China is more dependent on the west and specifically the us
I'm not convinced that's true anymore. The world is not the same it was decades ago. The US is clearly afraid of losing influence, and they're reduced to desperate measures like useless sanctions, proxy war, and sabotage of its own allies' gas pipelines. Those are not the actions of an empire at its peak, it's one that's in its death throes, and will soon expire as the world turns their collective back to its empty threats.
Pic is from here: https://zerohedge.com/markets/solid-gold-broken-world

>>55353972
If you think the American government/financial system is "open and transparent" and not rotten and corrupt to its core, you are living in a dream world.

I'm the anon who was gonna buy pic related. Thank you for pointing out the premiums on these, I actually found some other stores selling Sovereigns for 460€ for about the same content of gold. Since I'm stacking I've decided to forego these collection coins and just consooom the cheapest price per gram I can find. I also found some private sellers selling for €440 - might consider if they agree to meet in person and for me to do the sound ping and magnet tests. Is it too callous for me to ask a seller to test if it's a real coin or fake? Will they think I'm a weird or noob?

>>55354083
>empty threats
[laughs in tech you would consider science fiction]
Look at what happened when Trump blew up the Norks mountain base. Capitulation.

As for the silver I'm also dropping it and will just be on the look out for flea market sales with coin collectors

>>55354125
>flea market sales
Silver plated trash pawned off as real bullion doesn't make for a great long term investment

>>55354083
You're on to something here. The us is still holding on to the world empire dream, but is more realistically content with spheres of influence. Europe is now our main bitch and globalization is dead. The world will move back to a mercantile trading system and good luck with your trade system when the world's naval police that made globalization possible fucks off. China can't even project any naval power past their first ring islands much less worldwide.

>>55353062
>Right now solar panels are draining the supply
Exactly.
Industrial use is the main driver (50%) of silver demand. Investment, 25%.
https://www.jmbullion.com/investing-guide/james/silver-demand/
Of that 25%, how many would you speculate are /pmg/tards? I mean, look at these silly "Tier" memes. A serious investor buys/sells Golgfinger or Dragon tier quantities at a time, and most posters here brag about achieving Coinvivor tier after months or years of stacking.

>>55354135
then how do you spot if its fake?

>>55354095
Oh no I have no illusion of the situation. You can move billions into and out of the us financial system ezpz if you're a business or investor. Not a chance in China. They made it illegal to even undertake due diligence on a company under national security laws. They're closing the system off to outside investment. Factory closed.

>>55354124
What happened exactly? I don't know what an Norks is. Is that where they stored all the DoD records of the money that all went to hookers and blow?

>>55354155
There are tens of youtube videos on how to test for fake silver. If you're buying at a flea market and it's a really good deal, it's probably chink trash. If you have a specific question about a specific method of fake detection, ask away.

>>55354115
Testing before purchase sounds fair, so long as you don't make the seller pay for it. But you don't need any fancy equipment, just some calipers and a precision scale that goes to 2 decimal places should be enough. You should be able to buy both for under $50.
You'll need to note down the exact dimensions and weight of the coin in question. And don't forget to test your test equipment beforehand, to make sure it's reliable, so you can return/exchange it if necessary.
Also a basic ping test might be a good idea, but I wouldn't make that the only test. It's just to see if there's a tungsten core (those don't ping gud).

>>55354169
www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-mantapsan-mountain-collapse-unusable-kim-jong-un/
Nork fear mongering and Kim completely changed his stance towards Trump and the west right after this happened.

>>55352891
>China and India having an armed conflict with each other.
This is nothing

>And now with the US ban global chip ban against China China's economy will never be able to catch up.
Also wrong. Besides, any American disinvestment from China is going straight into India.

>>55353576
>Demographically, the us isn't fucked near as hard as Chyna.
LOL
You have that 180 degree backwards.

>>55354298
whites just need to start fucking more. maybe relax a bit on needing a totally sorted out life before deciding to reproduce. if you have trump already proposing incentivizing having kids, i'm sure even if it isn't him, someone else will push the same basic idea. what countries, that aren't in africa or maybe south america, don't have demographic issues right now? it is basically all of them.

>>55354298
Correct. The government is going to import a bunch of poor immigrants and then the media will start saying things like "You poor brown-folk are having your money stolen to pay for the $200TN unfunded liabilities owed to old-rich white folk. This is a racism! We need your popular support to redistribute all of these tendies and make them more equitable!
America is absolutely more fucked because the golems are out of control and shit is hardly even sustainable at this point. Once the boomers retire and then finally start to die off our country is third world.

I'm sorry for schizo-posting all over biz for the last 5 weeks guys...

Please forgive me.

Sometimes an urgr comes over me and I don't want to fight it any longer...

>>55354349
Become Amish. 7 per family.

>>55354298
US is about 1.7 babies vs 1.1 for china. They will lose about 100 million workers in the next few decades and the retired population in need of support will explode to about 500 million. Doesn't matter what you think of it, the us can import meatbags while china will never have any immigration. They aren't even providing jobs tk the youth right now the situation is so bad. They are truly fucked demographically

>>55354265
> reading an cbsnews MSM propaganda story
Trump went over there and shook hands with him. That's what actually happened. But they won't say that because they don't like peace, they only like war. So they talk about science fiction weapons and shit because that fits their narrative.

>>55354389

Nobody knows wuats going to happen in 50 years.

>>55354406
We know population ages. You can extrapolate trends pretty easily. So we know for sure england will be majority brown and black in 50 years? No, but data does suggest it.

>>55354404
>the mountain just magically imploded
Okay shit for brains
https://news.berkeley.edu/2018/05/10/radar-reveals-details-of-mountain-collapse-after-north-koreas-most-recent-nuclear-test/

>>55354436
> Trust the basedence! Two more weeks to stop the spread!
Who do you think you're fooling here exactly?

>>55354430

Nope.

>>55354367
There is no more running. I like the Amish but we need to assert ourselves and take political power on the local state and federal level.

>>55352891
This.
I wouldn't totally rule it out that BRICS are coming out with something, but let's face it:
They're all fucking shitholes.
India, in the literal sense.
China royally fucked up with their one child policy, so they'll get the incel uprising much sooner than the US.
Brazil, I actually don't know much about Brazil, so that's a wildcard!
Russia, well, even if they "win" their Ukraine special operation, they've now shown EVERYONE that they're rotten to the core and that their fable army is just a paper tiger. Who's going to respect a retarded looser? (inb4 >muh 4D Chess! Yeah, probably would have considered that after the failed attempt on Kiev at the beginning, but now we're clearly in >Niggah, WTF are you doing? territory)
And South Africa? This country is so broken, it's not even funny anymore. Just look at their state railways (or any other piece of infrastructure, really…) that they need to extract resources, it's all broken (or rather, sabotaged by various politically connected mafias, pic related).
So yeah, no.
They might be doing some shit, but it's gonna 100% be some stuff where every letter of BRICS is going to try to stab all the other letters in the back, in order to win a small advantage.

>>55354389
>US is about 1.7 babies vs 1.1 for china.
And what color are they?

>>55354537
They withdrew from around kiev and the west as part of the Turkish peace deal but before the Nazis killed their negotiator and were promised western wunderwaffen and monies if they would start a new eternal war for the mic.

Guys, I did it, I bought my first PM

>>55354672
welcome aboard
a sovereign was also my first stack-oriented piece

>>55354136
>The world will move back to a mercantile trading system and good luck with your trade system when the world's naval police that made globalization possible fucks off
>umm actually if we don't fight wars for Israel twice a decade, everyone will turn into pirates... for... reasons
fuck off Zeihan go back to shilling your copium on /pol

>>55354672
Kudos. Now you need another so you can clink them together.

>>55354822
>>55354703
Thanks guys, can't wait to stare at it

>>55354672
>First gold coin a sov
Welcome to real wealth anon, and a fine choice that is.

>>55354491
You do realize the official narrative is that the Norks accidently their own nuke testing site within the mountain, right? You actually read the articles and thought about it instead of just seething at the idea that the US won't just collapse and is not entirely filled with incompetent niggers, right?

>>55354537
>but it's gonna 100% be some stuff where every letter of BRICS is going to try to stab all the other letters in the back, in order to win a small advantage.
The US trying to sanction Russia and failing is what is giving BRICS more prevalence. Russia revealing the US military to be a paper tiger reliant on foreign bodies is only icing on the Crimean cake

think gold is fucked
not going back to $1,100 because half the worlds gold production would go offline then but $1,500 is basically guaranteed

>>55354672
congrats, good taste
>>55355033
checked, I hope so. There are so many cool coins I don't have yet. I would love to scoop them up at a discount.

>>55355033
Your opinion is noted and given all of the weight it is due, given the complete absence of any evidence or other support.

>>55355033
>not going back to $1,100 because half the worlds gold production would go offline then but $1,500 is basically guaranteed

Gold was $1,700 last July. There's no reason why it cannot revisit that, but eventually $2,000 will become the baseline.

i need to buy a car and will be trying to convince the sellers to accept payment in silver

>>55355368
Perfectly good waste of silver

Jannies are trannies btw

>>55355368
I'd be interested in that deal, but I'm a schizo. Good luck.

>>55354672
>>55354703

I lost my stacker virginity to a Sovereign also. Congrats!

Also, if a blowjob is worth a Mercury Dime, what can a Sovereign purchase?

>>55355368
I would respond to a craigslist ad wanting to trade silver or gold for my second car as long as they would meet me at an lcs to verify the metal before trading. I've got a car worth about 6k, that I'd trade for 3 double eagles in a heartbeat or the equivalent in silver. I was planning to turn the cash from the sale into PMs anyways.

>>55355368
pms are an illiquid asset you autist. i hope you find someone who will do the swap with you though.

Got one oz in today.
I'm broke, but I buy a little bit every payday.
It's not to protect my savings, I have none to protect.
It's just to chip away at COMEX, even if I can only do it an ounce or less at a time.
On an unrelated note, the ban I got was unjustified and my thoughts on the j*nny would be a violation of "rule 8" (the butthurt j*nny rule).

>>55355368
>>55355660
ASE's are legal tendies in the USA. When the sale is registered, you legally declare the face value of the purchase...

ASE's are a LEGAL 'loophole' for paying like 1/35th the sales tax versus fiat reported at the same value of trade...

Getting someone who trusts the tax code which is publicly available is still difficult... But if you DID get government coins rather than just bullion or rounds, this is how it's SUPPOSED to be done!

>>55355709
If you sell a car for way below its book value most states will assess it at book value and make you pay the taxes anyway. it depends on the specific way the state handles it though.

>>55355760
Damn, I believe you, should have expected it, but that is cucked AF...

>>55355781
you should probably check with your state first. never bothered paying taxes on cars sold privately. even say like a 2 year old golf r that was paid off. didn't pay shit in taxes.

>>55355687
Bans are unjustified in this thread. Waiting for a gold ounce to go under 2k to purchase. Bought me a p33 squaw last week. Eagerly awaiting it's delivery.
Jannies are trannies

>>55355481
200 blowjobs. Unless it’s a rare sovereign. Then possibly more.
I imagine you can use it to buy a live in girlfriend for a month. With kissing on the mouth.

>>55355789
How did you register and tag it?

>>55355818
registering it after i sold it? the car was initially registered through the dealer i ordered it from.

>>55355811
It was a previous thread.
I've been gone a few days.

I sold crypto and shares of biotech. I have officially laid off 5/10 workers in my workshop. I am buying pm and commodities. But which should I go into? I onmy have 15k left after buying pm's. What would you guys recommend? I have my own land away and my own well which cost me a lot.

>>55355855
You can't talk about economic matters in biz it seems
FYI

>>55353817
Gold foil notes. I don’t know who came up with the idea to take gold and turn it into a small sheet of mostly paper like your dollar bill so it can be circulated, worn, and lose its gold content over time. Silly. Just buy junk silver before grabbing something like this. Not that junk silver is bad I like junk silver. But foil notes? Wtf?

>>55355864
I also only have about two months of food. But plenty of ammunition and guns. About 20k rounds

Will it go cheaper? Or should I lock in price now?

>>55354059
he's just a anti-china fag
that is, he's letting his hate of china cloud his judgement

>>55355660
there's nothing illiquid about PMs. not gold or silver anyway. maybe platinum and other meme metals

>>55351604
>>55353271
>>55353305
jmbullion should be replaced with libertycoin in OP imo

>>55355888
FYI, goldbacks aren't paper and the gold is not exposed to wear. The gold layer is sealing inside two sheets of polymer. Might want to do just a tiny bit of research before shitting on something you know nothing about.

>>55355864
If you have your own land invest in it, by starting a garden. If you live in a place with harsh winters, I suggest building a greenhouse. Divide your land into crops and grazing land. Build a set of good strong fencing or stone walls if you can afford it. Anything 6 feet tall will be good enough to keep out most predators and keep your livestock in. Buy a couple of goats (natural lawnmowers that will piss everywhere including on themselves. Also get 9 hens and a rooster (They are natural bug eaters and shit everywhere including on themselves. Build a coop and a small barn. You can get meat, milk, and cheese from the goats, and meat and eggs from the chickens. You can turn all of the livestock crap into great fertilizer for next year and grow healthy crops on the garden side of your property. I haven't tried picrel yet, but it seems like a cool idea if you like the taste of fish.

>>55355687
That looks like a fake Chinese round, where did you buy it

>>55356035
U can't buy anything with them.
They are very illiquid

Oops mean to include this

>>55356240
Money Metals.

last call for cheapies

>>55355878
Here's the post that did it.
Note: I was responding to a specific comment.
Note Also: Support for PMs was part of that post in a /pmg/.

>>55356035
I'm interested in goldbacks, but I think that for the money, silver rounds and sovereigns may be a better investment.

>>55356172
Hey arent you the guy who was on Silver Dragons video in Harrys coinshop? He had a bunch of goldbacks on his wallet

>>55356299
Goldbacks are overpriced at the moment. I think of them more as a proof of concept or collector items.

>>55356340
Not me. I was in Japan recently and realized that a Yen wallet would work with goldbacks. Hence the Japanese silver coins I bought in the Ginza coin shop some Anon directed me to, along with a Yen wallet I picked up in Yokohama and stuffed with goldbacks.

I am destined to be but a humble raider.
I don't care.
I'm gonna be a raider with a name.
Gristle might get capped in the first act, but we all remember him.
I'm gonna be Don.
The raider that slays femraider puss and shot by the player while trying to protect his silver with a fucking .38.

>>55356213
Picrel? What pic fren

>>55356355
I buy them, too; but only to encourage more being minted and hopefully cause other states to join in
I have only two missions with this.
1) Fuck the banksters.
2) Make a treasure chest for my son to inherit.
That's it.
I'll never be rich and I know it.
But fucking over bankers and challenging the current economic order is enough to satisfy me.

>>55356467
You are a good man. That is way more important than being rich and a greater gift for your son. Peace, Brother.

bad idea to order this?
https://www.ma-shops.com/buehnemann/item.php?lang=en&id=12611

>>55356597
or this one: https://www.ma-shops.com/schimmer/item.php?id=68268

"THE GERMAN PEOPLE'S PATH OF SUFFERING"

father, son and kneeling mother; the family is emaciated and desperate;

ON DECEMBER 1, 1923 IN PAPER MARK 1 POUND OF BREAD COSTED 260 BILLION 1 POUND OF MEAT 3.2 TILLION 1 GOLDMARK 1 TILLION
The reverse shows the average prices in Germany on December 1, 1923;

The stated prices had to be paid in Germany on December 1; since October the Rentenmark was issued and the following year inflation was stopped; the exchange rate was fixed at 1 trillion marks to a Rentenmark=Goldmark;"

Can I still return my silver to apmex if I touched it

>>55356291
lmao
>>55356299
They absolutely are. Silver is fantastic buy right now. There is a lot of upside potential with very little risk. If you want to get into gold, 1 ounce bullion coins or sovs/francs is the sweet spot.
Still, I can't help myself. I collect goldbacks. They are relatively new on the scene and I have been able to relatively cheaply acquire at least one example of all uncirculated bills. I got a good deal on 100 goldbacks for 3 bucks a piece which is around a 50% premium. I love slipping a goldback into my nephew's birthday cards instead of cash. It's great because it is 1/1000th of an ounce of gold in a fairly large form. Gold is my guilty pleasure and I don't mind paying a little more to just have a little.

I prefer silver though. I stack silver at a 500 to 1 ratio for gold. If you look at the ratio of it existing compared to gold, it's historic price, and it's new use cases in electronics it is absolutely preferable to gold unless you have a gay VAT. Tarnish might scare noobs, but there is no degradation of the metal. Silver is a fantastic store of value and it is criminally under priced right now.

>>55356615
you cannot return silver

the elites don't want you to know this, but silver at the bank is free if you buy coin by the box load

>>55356748
Coin roll hunting is a copper man’s game.

>>55356779
finding wheaties and indian heads are always fun anon, pennies are my second favorite denomination, half dollars are my first

of course i save copper pennies

Real question is - will we continue to drop?

>>55356799
I can’t ever find half dollars
>>55356878
I suppose I’ma buy 10oz regardless

>>55356981
try experimenting with different bank branches / credit unions, not a full box, but get like 100$ sample rolls at each place locally, i have one bank thats my half dollar bank, and another branch thats my quarters / dimes, and another for my nickles, and the bank that doesn't produce is my dump bank

I want to buy another ounce of gold since I bought some silver today.
Overtime this week /pmg/ bros

I hate the price of silver right now. I'd pick up some of the old stock of Britannias with Lizzy lizard on but it'd take my average purchase price up so much. Should I do it anyway guys? £126(160usd) for 5oz.

post new gets

>>55357217
Got this the other week

>>55357195
My philosophy has always been to buy steadily rather than plan out big purchases. Long plays, a good habit of saving, not getting rich quick

>>55357195
dont get autistic about avg price
if u want something and is not outrageous go for it

>>55357342
It's just frustrating. I have been going for cheap junk silver but that's getting rarer on the ground now too. Thinking of getting some bullion but it just seems so inflated.
>>55349948
To the anon I was chatting to with the coin holders, you may recognise me posting with this lil' nigger l, here with some Edwardian coins.

>>55357388
There things are hard to find in good condition for a reasonable price, but I've got a few in pretty worn condition that weren't bad. Not particularly common.
>>55357375
Thanks anon, that's a nice reminder to keep stacking and stop worrying. It's all a decent place to put some wealth, better than saving in FIAT. I can get very autistic over average price.

What are you going to do when they force CBDCs and tell you to turn in your precious metals or go to prison?

>>55357442
>>55357388
>cull junk silver in plastic containers

>>55357468
Why not? I keep anything above .500 in cases, autism mode. I can still take it out to play with, but prevents any further damage. The .500 lives in the sack.

>>55357467
I'm sorry. I lost it in a boating accident.

what is a good price per dollar face value on junk silver?

>>55357554
$5

>>55357467
That's impossible. PMs are untraceable and even if they aren't...I lost all of my precious metal in a tragic boating accident. I can't think of anything more patrician than drinking out of a sterling goblet and I have you guys to thank for being blessed with experiencing it daily. I've never felt healthier or wealthier in my life.

>>55357610
shit i got ripped off

>>55357545
>>55357611
>muh boat accident

You guys obviously just coping if you think the literal demons controlling our government are going to let you off that easy.

>>55357677
and you're a schizo if you think they have the means to go from home to home confiscating everyone's physical metals

>>55357611
>PMs are untraceable
Implying you haven't bought off of any online dealer including ebay
Implying there isn't a whole dictionary of silver slang that they could run a search on and turn up your digital fingerprints
Implying there aren't cameras in your local pawn shop

Are these escudo coins worth buying?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1760-MADRID-1-2-ESCUDO-CHARLES-III-SPAIN-GOLD-DOUBLOON-SPANISH-COLONIAL-ERA-/155526033047?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p4429486.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

>>55357682
you will turn them in, and your guns too. you will cook up some rationalization when it happens. try and convince yourseld that you're still le based and redpilled. but you will cuck because you're a coward afraid of prison and death. you will not go to prison or get killed in a failed effort to keep owning your purchases. you will capitulate you delusional try hard.

>>55357774

>>55357677
Cash is untraceable. Even if I bought something with a credit card, maybe I sold it for cash later. It's not about being let off easy, right now, there is no way to reliably know who has PMs even if they were brought with traceable means or they post pictures on the internet. Worst case scenario it just stays hidden till the fascist elements of our government are rooted out. Realistically though, there is nothing they can do. The level of manpower needed to confiscate precious metals is not feasible. It is the same for firearms in America. Firearms have a 100% trace, but they won't be confiscated because instability and loss of life would be too high. PM's have probably a 50% trace, but also won't be confiscated because they can't be. Who is to say I didn't sell on a bump and buy on a dip. It's the whole reason they want CBDCs, at present though, They want to further taxation and increase control. There are so many plausible deniability's that it would be impossible to enforce legal confiscation of PMs. The best the govt can do is make it "illegal" to trade in them and I honestly don't see it happening in the age of the internet. Once it becomes clear that gold and silver are money, people are going to briefly wake up. This could be a major turning point in human civilization.....Things will return to normalcy until people inevitably become ignorant of money again and allow a parasitic upper class to siphon their wealth.

The PM chad will always be immune to fiat manipulation. Now is our time. It was actually 3-4 years ago and now is the time of moderate gains. If you bought 12 years ago things might seem pretty desolate. At the end of the day, if you buy an ounce of silver or gold, you will always have an ounce regardless of the price.

There are larger/different cycles, but the fiat cycle is that things bought with dollars appreciate in dollars
This time is coming to an end after 50 years. What will come, nobody knows, but PM holders should feel comfy.

>>55357774
No. Because it won't matter if I don't if that happens, and I highly doubt they'll bother, especially here. Besides my coins are all either Numismatic or have a face value on them, which is exactly the point of why they exist and aren't technically bullion, they're cash at face value, which means their worth is below any threshold also. That sovereign is a five pound coin, that's literally what it is. Britannia is £2. Silver crown is 25p. Etc etc.

>>55357682
They wont do that, they will force you to turn them yourself in or be severely punished financially.

>>55357962
Turn in what? My 25p (Crown)? Sorry I lost it in a boating accident, but I'm sure they can take me to court to redeem the face value of my stack, which literally isn't worth their while. Know the law. Buy coins which are minted currency with a face value.

>>55357769
Bumping this

>>55357467
CBDC will never fly. The world is already pushing back from the USD and that is only going to get worse as the dollar loses value. Why would the world accept an even sketchier shitcoin to replace a sketchy dollar? The answer is that they won't. And if the world won't accept CBDC, the US government will not be able to force it domestically because America is too dependent on world trade.

Besides, who would enforce such a law? There aren't enough Federal agents and local law enforcement won't help. So it ends right there.

>>55357919
cope - the post.

>>55357962
You are being silly. A failing, bankrupt government of a country hopelessly divided internally, hated by most of the world, full of incompetent diversity hires and faggots, will not do anything significant ever again. It is nothing but a puppet show now.

>>55357769
It is a little overpriced, but if you like it go for it. At the end of the day it is better than a funkopop or a video game. The premium is exceptionally high. There is about $100 worth of gold in a $250 purchase so this would have to be a numismatic purchase or lifetime hold for you to make money unless there are dynamics in the escudo market I don't know about. Unless you are really interested in this time period, there are better options to spend your fiat for gold. Personally, I'd pass on this coin at that price.

>tfw nobody ever respond to my spanish gold question

>>55358053
>Doesn't understand the purpose of this currency
You can literally carry it as face value currency across international borders, despite its metal value being far higher. That's the point of them. They're currency.

>>55358080
it seems to be a little over double the melt value of the gold. but i pretty much agree with: >>55358077
plus i'm not really finding anything that's cheaper after looking for a couple of minutes. if anything, most are almost double what you posted

>>55357919
Also I'm retarded and a sovereign is one pound, I've just realised I made a retard post, ignore me at this point.

>>55358086
>You can literally carry it as face value currency across international borders, despite its metal value being far higher.
Who sold you THAT horse pucky? Bullion coins may be recognized as gov't issued, but silver could still be taxed by PM mass based on the destination country.

>>55357639
It depends completely on what coins exactly you're buying. 10 dimes compared to 4 quarters is going to be a different price. That's why bullion sellers love to sell you $1 "mixed" so they can give you the least amount of silver.

>>55357554
One face dollar of any combination of 90% silver US coinage should contain about 0.715 ozt actual silver weight. So a dime would be 0.0715 ozt, a quarter 0.179 ozt.
Multiply the face dollar value by the current spot price of silver, and that will tell you what the silver content melt value is worth. Currently it's about $16.5/$face.
If you are willing to pay more, this at least gives you the base to work from. I see constitutional selling for $22 at a minimum.

>>55358288
>Multiply the face dollar value by the current spot price of silver,
*Sorry - multiply the actual silver weight of the face dollar value...

>>55351308
Luv me reichmarks

>>55358359
They're neat but as any kind of investment or protection of wealth they seem pretty worthless and more of a collectors thing.

>>55358367
reichsmarks have some of the best ROI of any coin, mate

>>55358187
>may end up provoking a border guard who knows the true value of the coins
the true value is what the governmint assigned!

>many governments tax 22k gold coins
just another reason for me to get leafs.

>it just keeps dropping
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55358367
They do have silver in them which is always better than no silver.

>>55358589
>SIGMA METALYZER....ACTIVATED
>SCANNING
>WARNING: NAZI PARAPHERNALIA DETECTED. INCELS ARE ADVISED TO HAVE SEX

>>55358589
>2RM
Does it pass?

I like my shit raw

>>55352649
We are in June you fucking cretin.

>>55356252
I'd do this but with another fish besides tilapia. It's a trash fish. Maybe some sort of catfish instead.

2000 oz silver.
48 oz gold.
10 oz platinum.
5 pounds copper.

How's that guy doing?

>>55359302
Very impressive.

Now put it all on a big pile and make a picture

Am i good guys?

>>55359932
that kilo bar is the same font as my valcambis but i dont recognize the name?? interesting stuff

>>55358367
>They're neat but as any kind of investment or protection of wealth they seem pretty worthless and more of a collectors thing.
Depends…
If you're a burger, then yeah, there's only so much more they can go higher and I wouldn't only count on silver spot finally getting that high that you'd be able to profit on them by that alone, but as an euro, taking burger prices as the shape of things to come, they're a good buy, but I wouldn't adivse becoming a Reichsmark maximalist.
Also, lmao at the janny who deleted my BRICS post and warned me about going to /pol/ or /x/…
Seems like it's either got a very narrow focus on what's pm related and what's not (Sorry, not sorry, the general political landscape is relevant to this thread!), or it's actually a BRICS (R, probably…) glowie that wants to keep the stupid
>muh BRICS coming superpower!!
narrative alive.
The emperor is naked and everybody (apart from some retards) knows it!
And for fucks sake, I even had some OC pm pic with it, you utter imbecile!

>>55359040
>GILDED RAW
Nice.
Is that shot or are that nuggets? Your picture quality ain't that great.

>>55353219

Not silber.

>>55360381
these are neat. i should order one

>>55360303
Nuggets

>>55359040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2zgB93KANE

>>55356299
I love goldbacks. Yea, they have a high premium, but they retain it because it's figured in to the exchange rate. If you are a careful shopper you can even get them for less than the exchange rate...
Would I bet the stack on them? No, but I have a bunch just like I have a pile of constitutional silver. For those pesky fractional transactions.

MINTANON IM COMING TO KILL YOU.
>on 4chan?
NO IN REAL LIFE

Crusaders when

>>55360575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE9OLZoxgiI

>>55360644
could you melt the gold out of these?

>>55361050
It’s supposedly recoverable yeah

>>55360644
They're an interesting concept, but the only way for these to take of is for governments to endorse them over paper trash.

>>55353204
I could have bought Maples today for the price of these Wieners yesterday. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55353565
>girls
anon, those are men.

>>55352161
What year is the peso?

>>55354672
Congrats, fren!
YGMI

>>55355687
You have a gun and a silver dollar.
Y(P)GMI.

>>55360733
July has been floated as when, see previous thread

>>55357388
>>55357442
Edwardian Florins are so kino.
Real hard to find (and really fucking expensive) in any better condition than that.

>>55359932
There is not enough silver in the world for every current millionaire to hold 60 oz at the same time.
You're good.

>>55361333
>slurp wieners
>regret it the next day
Kek

>>55361050
Yes. Plastic can be decomposed with sufficient heat. Gold is forever.

But why?

>>55361301
In its three thousand years of history as money, gold has never needed government to endorse its value. Why now?

>>55361716
>Why now?
Because the nation will be fully aware of their existence and would fully trade in them, that's why.

>>55361704
I was high on 3 cups of coffee. No regrets, the local boombooms will still buy them at $30/pop if I wanted to flip.

>>55361832
>3 cups of coffee
>i was high

>>55361050
Why would you do such a thing? Literally half the value of these things is the form factor.

>>55361778
When the dollar collapses, the entire world will be thinking about gold. And nobody will need some politician to tell them what it is. The only kind of money that needs government endorsement is paper.

>>55361560
A 1964 which is only 10% silver, I didn't get it

>>55361980
The Fed and the US government will just create dollars with a load of zeroes on them and then tell everyone to exchange their worthless old fiat notes for these new ones. Americans will comply because this fiat system is all they know. Again, you would have to have the government promoting gold backs for it to stick, but that will never happen because it decentralizes their financial monopoly.

>>55352161
these instead?
https://www.stoutgold.co/product/501178-1947-1948-mexico-silver-5-pesos-cuauhtemoc

>>55361980
On the contrary, the average person is retarded and will seek out PS5s to play games with gold-denominated currencies while simultaneously thinking gold isn't real

>>55361869
https://money.com/drinking-coffee-impulse-shopping-study/

>>55362050
Won't work. First of all, half the country thinks the other half is insane and evil. If a Democrat administration says it is daytime half the country goes to bed. Half the public will reject a new paper dollar just because of who is sponsoring it. This isn't 1933. But even if the government could get the public to accept a new shit currency, the rest of the world will not and that will be the death of it because the US is too dependent on world trade to go it alone.

>>55362072
While the USD is still on top, nobody needs to think about gold. But that will change. People adapt very quickly when they are hungry.

>>55362073
will probably have all 3 of these finished by 2pm. christ i can't stand indian accents

>>55362072
There are always two interesting assumptions implicit in the "everyone is stupid" argument: everyone is stupid EXCEPT the person making the "everyone is stupid" argument, and everyone is stupid EXCEPT the global elite who are super-smart and can make people do anything they want.

>>55362260
have you worked for many large companies you wouldn't expect to find morons only to find the. majority of people there are absolute fucking retards? i think most people are just pretending.

>>55362132
>Half the public will reject a new paper dollar just because of who is sponsoring it.
That's not a certainty for the simple fact it hasn't already happened. The reality is that most people want stability over partisan politics and will do as their state commands. Revolutions only happen when the revolutionaries hold the office while the low level grunts tear the fabric of society down around them. We saw that first hand recently with BLM, where law enforces were told to stand back and let them burn and loot. This idea that gold and silver is going to win out over fiat when it implodes is a pipe dream. The populous WILL take on the newly denominated USD because it's all they know and will seek stability at the cost of liberty.

I'm gonna prepare new thread and post it when we reach bump limit.

NEW
>>55362421
>>55362421
>>55362421

>>55362426
Oi! I said I was going to make a new thread.

>>55362171
Based and civilization builderpilled

>>55362393
>>55362426
kek

I'm posting it anyway as I said I was going to, plus the guns in the opening thread is frowned upon here.

PROPER NEW THREAD
>>55362512
>>55362512
>>55362512
>>55362512

>>55362426
>>55362521
Stop spamming your shiny rock generals. /biz/ is a solely crypto board. Shiny boomer rocks are not real money.

>>55362729
no one gives a shit about your scam shitcoins pajeet