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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

For the Captain...

https://redcircle.com/shows/captainblackbeard

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
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>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
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>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


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>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

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- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
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http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
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or a reputable clearnet service

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https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

new seraphis news?

considering buying a little, but I would like to see a drop before I buy more

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

>>55308137
nothing ever happens at monero's

Is there a place to exchange professional services for XMR now or is it still the shitty moneromarket site you guys keep shilling? Haven’t been here in a while because of this very garbage hole in the crypto space

monero observer taking a break... https://monero.observer/monero-observer-announcement-on-break/

>https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

nice try glowie

i just bought some monero on kucoin and i cant figure out how to withdraw it, only see the option of converting it. did i get meme'd by a central exchange? does kucoin let you withdraw XMR or do they only let you "trade" it back and forth on their platform like a cuck?

>>55307892
I only have 2.4 monero :(

>>55310061
You have to move it to your main wallet to withdraw it. Can’t withdraw from trading account

So what are the main points that monero better than bitcoin? Aren't the lighting or liquid network supposed to do what monero does?

>>55310580
>explain
No. RTFM

>>55310085
thanks i finally figured it out after your comment. i didnt understand their system was 2 separate accounts their app is confusing as fuck its got way too many fucking boxes and tabs

>>55310580

To clarify what >>55310671 said RTFM of Bitcoin. Neither liquid nor lightning provide private transactions

>>55310671
This thread has like 2 posts per year so I think it would be at least something to talk about.
>>55310745
How?

>>55310580
>So what are the main points that monero better than bitcoin?

The free market sez so. See current adoption trend.

Aren't the lighting or liquid network supposed to do what monero does?

lol

How do you mine this at a profit? Why did they change it to cpu mining?
Right now its basically only designed for darknet niggers to spread botnet malware to mine on normies computers

>>55311148
>How do you mine this at a profit?
don't
>Why did they change it to cpu mining?
cryptonight always changed the algo to prevent ASIC miners from taking over.
>Right now its basically only designed for darknet niggers to spread botnet malware to mine on normies computers
no botnet?

>>55310580
Look in my ideal world the banks will simply fucking die and maybe we will get there one day on

Industry by industry crypto is slowly inserting its virus code into everything because we still live in a world reliant on the petrodollar but the world is trying to move away from that, who is going to win that i don't know, monero directly takes the cake in this because while we don't have smart contracts and i hope one day we do, the fact privacy coins have been banned from so many states is a clue privacy coins are a real threath to the state and also the fact we are crabbing down right now because some people are scared of goverment crackdowns it means if monero reaches a floor then the monero economy will be conformed by retail actors, cartels, non profits that are antigoverment, north korea, hackers etc and the hope of many monero holders is that from the black/gray markets then the state will have nothing more than to force business in central citys to use monero transactions that have public viewkeys.

On the other and i hope its the more ideal outcome bitcoin gets its shit together and makes bitcoin something usefull and somehow finds a way to scale, then it scales and finally bitcoin becomes entrentched with the legacy systems, once it happens nodes and developers take the rope out of the bag and put default privacy on all bitcoin transactions and at that point it would be trully impossible to control bitcoin, well i suppose we still have you could control the mining operations but there are too many countrys for that.

The most likely scenario that i see, etherium brings some legacy systems and vitalik delivers on its promises, because etherium is the darling of jp morgan etherium gets protected by the sec and heck lets say etherium isn't protected by the sec and becomes an unregistered security its still decently decentralized if

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>>55311248
I was thinking of using old phones to mine it, that seems more efficient.
People who build dedicated cpu miners take like 5 years to break even lol lmao.
So its truly only intended for botnet fags?

>>55311273
Even if the goverment wanted to persecute etherium nodes because 60% of nodes are on aws they would need a court order first giving enough time for the node holders to simply change registration, i say this because the hinman files argues that CryptoCurrencys work like fluids they can pass from commodity to security to viceversa depending how decentralized it is, they could persecute the etherium foundation but personally i think etherium is sufficiently decentralized that they don't have the power to control it or regulate it out of existence in the whole world, also etherium is jp morgans darling so it will not get the same regulatory challenges that other layer 1s like solana or cardano have, so personally and i don't deem perfect knowledge in the end the only factors that matter in crypto are going to be,
>how fast development is
>how fast the dominant chain stays dominant

The most likely outcome etherium will take charge of everyone and because even with regulation it will probably gain more traction and maintain the lead of others, unless bitcoin of course finally delivers a good normie experience and solves scaling + smart contracts, it could happen the market will wait for bitcoin but i doubt it if shit like facebook and apple is still popular today the race will be between these 2. Of course i could be wrong in my assumptions and there is information missing but the problem right now for me at least is with crypto is we have too many shitcoins trying to achieve the same fundamental goals so there can only be space for one dominant player.

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

Reporting in
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Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
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Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

Interesting. The jew sits in monero

>>55311273
>bitcoin gets its shit together
Unfortunately will not happen. Too many forces at play to keep it transparent and crippled for the layer 2 strat. Privacy on layer 2 won't happen, and scaling will only happen with lightning if the topology of the current banking system is basically replicated there. Everyone will use a few large nodes ("banks") for all their transactions.

>>55311341
As for Etherium, the fundamental issue with transparent blockchains is the state will always be able to neutralize them as a threat due to the ease with which they can control the major players. Maybe it will actually provide utility in some way through smart contracts and maintain value, but even that is a dubious idea. Smart contracts would be a great way to manage things like property titles. Except, the state does that now and that's another means of their control. I don't see a future where my vehicle title is on the blockchain without basically dismantling the state.

I have seen Dero which is an attempt at a opaque blockchain with smart contract capabilities, but I have no clue if it is a scam, honeypot, or legit. We still wouldn't be able to do cool stuff like manage our vehicle registration through it, but we could make gambling applications.

>>55312094
Yid. You really suck at your job. Tell your boss you want to be deployed somewhere else

>>55311148

you dont

>>55311341
what are your personal favorite projects for investment gains speculation? how do you feel about ICP and solana? have you heard of arbitrum

>freedom of speech
Encryption
>right to bear arms
3D-printed firearms
>free market
Monero

What other magic internet freedoms am I forgetting?

anyone here putting in work?

>>55313281
>inb4 you live in australia
yes unfortunately

>>55313152
none, that's all there is to it. With those things combined, all the worlds governments will fall

>>55313152
>What other
i2p + torrenting

you can torrent over i2p (the invisible internet) under the noses of the fedniggers and they couldn't even notice. Fuck their DMCA laws.

>>55313152
I think fedniggers will try to limit internet exposure to certain locations, expect, cable internet to be cut off from rural locations and only piped into wealthy areas in the future

maybe even government control of cable internet

wars will be fought over it and power plants

>>55313152
>freedom of religious enlightening
Grow your own magic mushrooms.
They were outlawd only cause catholic church wanted monopoly on God so they would be the one telling people what God wants from them and whom to pay indulgences.

>>55313152
the biggest one which is decentralization of the network for the internet. the internet can be regulated at the drop of a hat. look at all those riots and shit that happen in china or pakistan or places like that. they just disable internet and cell phones and comms grind to a halt. you need to figure out a way to rebuild the internet but out of kike control. something like a mesh network of individual devices.

you dont have freedom of speech right now and encryptoin doesnt solve this problem. radios are a good alternative though but its a high barrier to entry knowledge wise. workng radio communicationst that span hundreds of miles is not simple walkie talkie bullshit. there is math involved in direction of antenna placement, type of antenna, size, power, bandwidth, reflecting off clouds.

>>55313997
>>freedom of religious enlightening
>Grow your own magic mushrooms.
Holy fucking BASED

TAKE ME DOWN
TO THE MONERO CITY
WHERE THE GOVTS ARE WEAK AND
LIBERTIES PLENTY

https://monero.town

OH TAKE ME PLEASE TAAKE ME HOOOME
YEAH YEAAH

>>55313830
>cable internet to be cut off from rural locations and only piped into wealthy areas in the future
msft and the rest would never allow that to happen because of all the data they’d miss out on. Office, G-suite, and the rest are all online subscriptions that wouldn’t work at all without internet, you think they'd let the feds shut down that market instead of selling hardware that only whitelists certain domains?

>>55312101
I think you meant to respond to this guy
>>55312028

>>55314018
I think this because to be honest we can build all the software we want but without a decentralized internet someone that builds modems or 3d printing a modem or whatever its inevitable that the internet will get banned unless you kyc

>>55316039
im just saying think of the internet like a L2 and the actual infrastructure as the L1. you cant have a decentralized internet, or defi, or any other pipe dream of individual freedom unless the base layer is decentralized. everyone jacked into an ISP with a monopoly on all the cable and a complete bent over slut for the fed govt is not decentralized.

>>55316244
this anon gets it.
we need to rethink the internet, the current ISP model is far too centralized and easy to control. also you might want to look at 'splinternet'.
this is why starlink caught my attention, it is centralized as shit but new tech always open new windows.
maybe in the future, we as free individual can raise funds to send satellites into orbit which would allow us to connect with each other without a centralized authority. the only way to shut down something like that would be literally with weapons destroying the satellites.

>>55316244
>>55316767

Meshnets are where its at.

>>55316767
Tor, vpn, whatever satoshi nakamoto did to remain anonymous. Only If needed (small number of users). Fucking schizomoneroites you guys worry too much.
>inb4 no Anon we need to launch decentralized satellites or monero is unsafe

>>55317010
still a long way to go.
how are we supposed to communicate with someone from Europe with a meshnet from murica?

>>55317108
>how are we supposed to communicate with someone from Europe with a meshnet from murica?

Yeah, that is the eternal question.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/2pvxss/how_will_meshnet_connect_continents/

>>55317026
what wrong with putting yourself in the worst case scenario?
also you don't seem to understand the problem at hand. it's not anonymity itself, but the possibility that the internet how you know it comes to an end.
china is the perfect example, do you think its citizens can use monero or tor? they get their asses busted in one afternoon if they do, because they are still anonymous inside those systems but the system itself is banned.
the ISP can see if you are connected to tor and therefore authorities can and will go knock on your door.
Rusia is most likely the next bit splinternet and other countries will start following these examples of authoritarianism in the hopes they can control the population. of course the excuses will be ridiculous - dangerous misinformation, disinformation, fake news, protect the children(kek, they are literally promoting degeneracy and mutilation in children) - but most people wont put up a fight.
at that point i guess people like you will start making excuses to cope with the situation.

>>55317108
Satellites or high tech dialup using phones again seem like the way to go. Dialup’s cheaper to set up but has the issue that everything goes through the phone providers who could kill the line if they feel like it

>>55317108
the same way people used to phreak into american bbses obviously, git gud lamer

>>55317423
We have large language models and AI text to speech now, which we can use for stenography to hide any traffic so it sounds like a phone conversation

>5 years later
>my monero still isn't 10k a piece
feels batman

>>55317880
give it 5 more years

>>55317896
10 more years and not a second longer

>>55317261
You can’t help a people who won’t help themselves. Those people behind the great firewall are not the primary user base and never will be. They can figure out how to send usb drives over pigeon net if they really need to after they let themselves get to such a point. Or disguise their vpn activities better. Plus they are so different in regards to their currency issues. They also understand the jewery in the USD and combat it, in their own way(hey great firewall works for some things like keeping the Jews out!) None the less it isn’t an issue for the majority of monero users.

>>55317967
BitTorrent is an example these niggers who distract and say monero needs satellites. BitTorrent is a huge problem for some, costing billions and billions but in no way was it considered to ban protocols or construct a firewall to stop citizens. HTTPS as well, so many streaming sites. You can’t. Ban. Protocols. Niggers. Schizomxonerites pls get the fucking point and worry about what they can do.

>>55317990
>You can’t. Ban. Protocols. Niggers.
HTTPS is illegal in North Korea, as is any other form of encryption. Care to try that line again?

>>55318065
So they made it illegal, banned it from their networks. Yet it remains a protocol and is unbannable. A determined schizomoniterite like yourself could parachute in, setup a Verizon tower on a mountain; and connect via https to go fuck yourself.com

>>55310580
Ignor the fagots Anon. It ain't do as shit good as anonymous transactions and military-grade encryption from Sylo which is decentralized communication and privacy at its best

>>55318384

w>>55317261
>china is the perfect example, do you think its citizens can use monero or tor? they get their asses busted in one afternoon if they do, because they are still anonymous inside those systems but the system itself is banned.
Is that true? I know China is a authoritarian shithole but I need proofs.

>>55318789

If you don't want your ISP knowing you use Tor/I2P set up a VPS and port forward.

>>55318384
>military-grade encryption
Kek. Is there a phrase that reeks of curry more than this?

>>55318321
go then, try to use https in north korea then come back and tell us how was the "unbannable protocols" experience.
you don't seem to realize that the advantage those protocols provide stays within the same protocol, if the protocol itself is banned then you can't even use it to begin with.

>>55318903
Na I don’t give that much of a fuck about the chinks who prefer Totalitarian governments. You admit I could goto North Korea and set it up. Thus it is unbannable. Here in the land of the free if you try to ban HTTPS the internet normies would revolt. No worries at all there. Plus I doubt the chinks know how to even properly ban it from their networks.

>>55318384
>20 cents have been transferred to your account

>>55318842
well in china to get a VPS i guess you have to get a chinese one (since you can't connect to the rest of the world) and i suppose you have to give your dna sample to the VPS provider and read the 500 pages rules manual, if you break any of those rules you have to answer to uncle police.

>>55318984
>Here in the land of the free if you try to ban HTTPS the internet normies would revolt
ok now i'm completely sure you are a delusional faggot
>land of the free
>can't even freely buy monero. borderline illegal
>huge surveillance system
>market intervention
>can't chose education for your own children
>huge and complex taxes for the gibs and ukraine aid
>normies don't even know what https is
>they would revolt
>muh i can still have weapons
then use your fucking weapon to erase yourself from this world and rid us of your stupidity

>>55319156
Ouch bro sounds like you have a lot of personal problems. Kek you still don’t understand the problem is, don’t understand a simpler anagram that bit torrent is still around, or the simplest that you can build the protocol and connect around the world from China or North Korean. I love making retards like you seethe with my existence purely through superior intellectual.

>>55319195
i seriously don't understand why do you think protocols are unbanable.
the whole internet works on protocols and china controls their internet very well, they analyze all the traffic and intercept all communications.
>bit torrent is still around
bittorrent hasn't been made illegal, whats illegal is using bittorrent to share copyright files among other things, just like in any other protocol.
you think that because people continue to use those protocol in illegal ways it means they can't be stopped, but you don't seem to understand they can just plug the cable in the whole system so you can't use it anymore. to prevent riots in china they shut down the internet in certain areas so people can't communicate, lets see how useful are those protocol in those situations.

some anon left this article some time ago, interesting stuff
>https://nullchinchilla.me/2023/05/two-kinds-of-censorship-resistance/

>>55319374
>plug the cable
pull the plug

>>55319374
>linked article talks about the ongoing war between users of China circumventing protocol level bans
lmfao I can’t even with you Anon. But you are persistent I like that. Yes the great firewall concerns remain a Chinese problem just like a rapidly devaluing global reserve cutrency (USD) is an American problem.

>>55319501
the whole discussion was about you saying the satellite internet thing was schizo bullshit, and maybe it is for us, but for chinese or north korean people i don't think it is.
the firewall of china might have some leaks from time to time, its not perfect at all but its evolving. i bet they are throwing money like crazy to the development.
given the current trend of increased surveillance and censorship worldwide i think its safe to assume we will continue in that road and at some point the schizo systems like satellite internet will not sound so schizo after all.

>>55316767
if the baboons in control of the government have enough white dna, then they could destroy the satellites with weapons, but somehow I doubt that will remain the case for much longer

>>55315536
rural people are to be discarded and controlled as slaves according to the federal government, I can see it happening

>>55319601
>at some point the schizo systems like satellite internet will not sound so schizo after all.
But would it possible for that to happen?

>>55309194
>Is there a place to exchange professional services for XMR now or is it still the shitty moneromarket site you guys keep shilling? Haven’t been here in a while because of this very garbage hole in the crypto space
I’d like to know

>>55320004
you mean a satellite constellation? it already happened but its just owned by one company.
or do you mean if it is possible that we get to a situation in which we will need schizo level tech? some countries already need it

>>55320219
Having decentralized ISPs, because launching and controlling satellites seems something that's being able to be done by governments.

>>55320412
>that's being able to be done by governments.
Only able to be done*

>>55319418
>>55319501
If we can make our own money we can make our own rockets and satellites. Prove me wrong.

Meant to quote
>>55320412
>>55320419

>>55320427
>>55320437
But are the satellites needed? Aren't there people in third world countries that make their own ISPs?

>>55320574
Sending shit into orbit is easier than pulling cables across the globe.

BUY GOLD AND SILVER: >>55320425

>>55320586
To add, Spacex isn't starting a giant constellation just because nobody else thought to try it -- they have specific advantages that enable them to put stuff in orbit cheaper than the opposition. Their rockets are cheaper, so now constellations are cost effective and profitable. This is because of their reusability. Starship will make the rockets even cheaper to launch, setting the price for all satelite internet. When launch prices are reduced from $10,000 per kilogram to $200(that's a conservative estimate), that enables the existence of a lot of projects that would have formerly been impossible. A schizo-constellation would be impossible now, but if the price drops by 100x, it becomes something theoretically possible with a lot of coordination. Keep your eyes on the development of starship because if it goes as well as SpaceX seems to hope, it will change the game for this kind of project. They're literally hoping for $10 a kilogram.
See also: https://twitter.com/NewsfromScience/status/1571537063148765186?

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

Ah good, the Znigger is back. Since you’re obviously under contract and therefore have to listen to me, I will make you consider the following
>you cannot have (((regulatory compliance))) and privacy. Even if it’s partly true now there’s no guarantee it stays that way
>regulators are often the people you want privacy from. Telling them to fuck themselves because the information they want is impossible to obtain is what a privacy coin should strive for
>regulators can change what they want on a whim. Since they can demand de-privatizing as a condition of compliance it’s better to not even try to get their approval from the start
>dark market adoption is a good thing because it shows that in the most opsec critical situations the tech can be relied on to work
>a board of directors is easily compromised, as is a US registered corporation
>new cryptographic technology should be viewed with extreme caution. It is not a selling point to people who know what they’re talking about

>>55308444
Ain't taking any chances, it's on the bullish list on TM's page, the project itself has real-world utility, and the market is long ripe for a surge.

>>55322272
Space catapult is real
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bISdA-ub5tI&pp=ygUOc3BhY2UgY2F0YXB1bHQ%3D
But there are still problems to be solved after price drop to competitive prices.
>Not everyone will be allowed to send shit into space because of space junk
>regulatoors wont allow people to launch decentralized internet
>satelite constelation still needs ground infrastructure? It would be the weakest link since it can be reached by authorities

>>55316767
what about a network where anons put balloons in the air with radios?

>>55317026
>>55317026
>muh tor means im invincible
yeah it went literally right over your head retard. how do you plan to transact your monero when the internet is turned off beause kikes get mad you are making a parallel economy and spreading ideas? do you ever use the internet for normie tasks? how your tor networks going to relay your hentai porn to your fapping station on your toilet if the kike regime is using AI to analyze webtraffic and identify tor exit nodes then send the jakboots to SWAT the your house which was identified as using tor? or just IP range block them? you think its difficult for an ISP to add 2,000 IPs to a banned blacklist? how fucking new are you zoomer?


https://check.torproject.org/torbulkexitlist

>>55317190
we need to crowd fund satellites, then a space force with nukes to defend them

>>55317261
>>55318789
no its a very libertarian place, i heard the chinese commuist party welcomes all diversity of opinion and thought and allows people to prosper in freedom

>>55318842
its that easy? wow no wonder our social media and internet was flooded with news and updates from the average chinese citizen of the draconian lockdowns during march 2020

How badly did ledger fucked up?
Do I really need to get some thinkpad with obscure Linux distro just to be my new wallet?

>>55323800
you know whoos made it to entrap the goyim

>>55323822
bugs really have no soul. i bet they could the same thing to their grandmothers

>>55323910
just get some regular laptop and physically remove the network module if you can along with an OS without network capabilities. then you are good to go. i'm talking about airgaped wallet btw.
i don't really know if you can choose the words for your seed phrase, it would be cool.

>>55323910
Regular Lunux Box is fine.

>>55323910
>Do I really need to get some thinkpad with obscure Linux distro just to be my new wallet?
Just use Feather Wallet in a TailsOS encrypted persistent storage. The USB that you run TailsOS on, will be your encrypted hardware wallet.

i dunno why they say this is chudcoin since i buy my hormones with it

>>55324469
You are on T?

>>55324479
how would my post make any sense if by hormones i meant testosterone :3

>>55323910
To keep your 0.1 xmr? You can just use ios with a custodial wallet and write down your seed in a seed.txt unencrypted file in your desktop

consensus of DNMs moving from BTC to XMR is a good enough signal for me. how do i go about obtaining this magical made up money?

>>55324919
TradeOgre, Kraken, LocalMonero are all good options.

when’re we getting rich lads?

>>55324955
thanks fren

>>55325041
>>55324955
should be noted that kraken is kyc, all still good options tho

>>55324485
>how would my post make any sense if by hormones i meant testosterone :3

Based XMR-tranny.

>>55323910
Normal linux is fine. I daily driver one of the “normie” distros but I’m setting up one of the full schizo ones as a vm with encrypted drive that I’ll use as a wallet

>>55325239
ruined

>>55307892
>world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!
But why can't I use Monero without NexeraID and PolygonID? Why haven't the dev there look into KYC.

>>55325723
gb2plebbit

>>55322386
>>55322409

Imagine still holding this shit in 2023

>>55324200
>Just use Feather Wallet in a TailsOS encrypted persistent storage. The USB that you run TailsOS on, will be your encrypted hardware wallet.
for monerochads who do this, what is a good laptop i can buy to run tails on? my pleb macbook pro doesn't support it

reporting in

>>55325851
depends on your threat vectors but any common flavor of linux will run on basically any mass produced laptop

>>55326075
nice hashrate! have you thought of p2pool or are you using the moneroocean algo shifting miner?

Saw a post on HN claiming chainalysis people could trace monero. Is this true?

>>55309194
I'm a doctor and I accept monero. No one's ever tried to pay me in monero though.

>>55326931
>Saw a post on HN claiming chainalysis people could trace monero. Is this true?

going full badgoy here, what smartphone do i have to buy, what OS do you reccomend? GrapheneOS or CalyxOS?

>>55327440
GrapheneOS. See strcat's posts on hacker news, he knows what he's doing. Buy whatever phone the grapheneos project recommends, currently its pixel devices due to their hardware cryptography support and firmware update guarantees.

>>55326579
i dont think p2pool was a thing when I started and I never changed
is there a benefit to switching?

>>55326944
>I'm a doctor and I accept monero.
based

>>55325720
chuddy

>>55327750
p2pool is supposed to ensure that the network won't suffer a 51% attack once the pool (p2pool) reaches a 50% hashrate of the total hashrate.
now, i don't buy that. nothing guarantees that once p2pool reaches 50%+ of hashrate there won't appear some actor with more than that 50% out of nowhere. things like that could happen.
i think the best scenario is in which each user uses its own node to mine. doesn't get more decentralized than that.

>>55328067

>Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

>>55325701
is it risky to have monero wallet on a regular linux normie distro or something? shoudl i be only keeping my wallet offline and only use my internet connected computer wallet as a middleman to move money from exchanges to my offline wallet or hold small amounts for casual use?

>>55324955
Kraken doesn't do xmr for USA customers

>>55329258
>Kraken doesn't do xmr for USA customers

>>55329377
I've tried, pretty sure they disabled all of it

I use tradeogre and cakewallet

>>55307892
fuck black bar censors over eyes are hot

risky? Not really. Do you get hacked regularly anon?

As far as being your own bank and dealing with thousands and thousands or more of dollars. Well no you don't trust any flavour of linux with millions of dollars anon. It needs to be battle tested. If you were a business perhaps you go with redhat enterprise linux bc they are secure as shit. Small amounts, a miner, sure no problem witth ubuntu or linux mint or whatever android windows. But your whole damn bank? If you are a literal goblin with stacks of monero in a dungeon? Naw you gotta protect it better.

I would setup a persistent tails OS. Though yes you can install on any popular linux they are all relatively secure as in Ubuntu,
Can use the OS itself as your encryption layer (pw'ed persistant drive. Can backup easily
> they even support Monero
> https://tails.boum.org/doc/index.en.html

>>55325781
Learn to cope. You can't live a secured life on blockchain without those tools together with XMR.

>>55323800
monero means coin in esperanto.

Get a clue

Is Monero still coupled with Bitcoin or not. My market analysis tools say next time Bitcoin slumps Monero might be the safe haven asset coin

>>55329258
>>55329377
I think we all know who would make this up and why

>>55330480
Someone who used to use kraken and now uses tradeogre and cakewallet

Zcash is set to break out, $500 soon!

>>55325239
Thats a man right is it cause the nose

>>55326944
>>55309194 #
>I'm a doctor and I accept monero. No one's ever tried to pay me in monero though
Same.

I just had a dream where Monero went up 20%

>>55332335
Deflationary currency problems. It takes time and money to get into XMR. If you can easily spend your fiat why would you waste your XMR on a doctor? Now if you wanted something from the darknet however and can’t get it anywhere else with cash or other currencies… then you might be willingly to part with your glorious monero.

>>55332863
>>55332335
>>55326944
If you offer the real price of services in XMR then you'd probably get customers, although they might be the kind of customers that don't have insurance

>>55322386
In terms of annoying trolls, Zcash is to Monero what BSV is to BTC.

>>55324919
Use Bisq to buy BTC. Then use Tradeogre or any other KYC-less exchange to trade your BTC against XMR. Browse kycnot.me for further information. The best way to buy BTC is by using a KYC-less Bitcoin-ATM check coinatmradar.com to see if there‘s one in your town.

Ok who did this

>>55307892
I had a convo with some redditfag watermelon try and convince me how monero is evil and should be illegal and that only bad guys use it, but also big gov evil and more freedom from banks and mean corporations >:(

I though since he was daily driving linux- he had the same privacy concerns i do. I guess not lol. turns out he was just a sperg.

>>55335065
>people really think this kind of advertising works

>>55335229
Exactly my thought. people poor enough to have to use the subway don’t care about privacy enough to use monero

>>55332863
XMR being mostly by and for dark markets and programesr is a disandvantage to adoptions. Dark markets and hacker might have to give gibs away (subsidise monero usage) to dudes like me if they ever want adoption outside its contaimnet zones.
However organic adoption will slowly creep over time. And is the best life changing tech that I know of. Its just lacking adiption atm.
Its either going to take gibs or something even more fair and cool like making I2P where you get a monero clone or monero as payment for mainting it. Tor is going down and its not as secure as it could be without market encentives , while xmt and private internet are made for each other.
Screen cap this

PS. Fuck low T. eth gpu horders and fuck xmr drug lords and hackers hording it. Spread the love fagots

>>55335274
Never got who falls for advertising and "influencing" beyond hard facts and speculations on future usage. All this billboard and super bowl advertising in crypto made me sour very hard against the entire space

>>55335708
It’s fomo. All of it. Marketing is literally nothing more than the art of convincing you that you should buy this garbage you don’t really want or need. It sucks and the world would be better off without it

>>55332863
Why should anybody spend fiat on any service if they could instead use it to buy more deflationary currency at any point in time?

In some way CryptoCurrencys started thanks to the age of internet and random groups working together, why didn't the same thing happen to 3d printers its only like the last 10 years that it became a democratized technology, same could be said with solid aluminum slicon batterys why does only one company in the land of israel is working on this and not retail, i am tired of patents and the kikery if random anons made the technology of the future from nothing (CryptoCurrency) why can't we open source other technologys as well.

Infinite supply shitcoin.

Enjoy getting dumped on by the devs.

>>55335213
Was it Richard Stallman?

>>55337219
>why can't we open source other technologys as well
Hardware has the issue of requiring ludicrously high tech machines to create which practically nobody has the capital to access. The ideal future is a reverse long march through the institutions where we infiltrate and after reaching critical mass start GPLv3’ing everything in sight

>>55336863
This is the goal, create a lifestyle where you don't have to spend any money, put all the money you make into assets, gg fiat jews

They're using the literal same playbook from Weimar

>>55337722

kek

In case some of you did not know, we have our own decentralized, anonymous, censorship resistant plebbit alternative lemmy instance called monero.town

https://monero.town/c/books

Also poast your fav books there.

>>55326931
you cannot deterministically trace Monero.

>postal holiday
I fucking hate niggers so damn much

>>55340412
>https://monero.town
quality content picrel effin saved

>>55341926
>pic
Top cringe.

t. owner of undisclosed amount

>>55341926
poe's law is the biggest threat to monero.

>>55344174
Still remember watching her first fight wearing the monero logo.

Imagine being a starving fighter trying to just make some money off of the crypto craze and you accidentally into the only viable dark money in the whole industry, ngl kinda based.

>>55340412
>poast
chud alert

>>55344411
>Imagine being a starving fighter trying to just make some money off of the crypto craze and you accidentally into the only viable dark money in the whole industry, ngl kinda based.

Sometimes you just get lucky.

>>55344411
>Imagine being a starving fighter trying to just make some money off of the crypto craze and you accidentally into the only viable dark money in the whole industry
many such cases, now there's an argentina football team making monero shirts for their club for some free gibs, they probably realize that xmr community members are like "woah a heckin XMR reference!! you are le shadow hacker just like me!! I must send you le piconeros now"

>>55344628
>argentina football team making monero shirts for their club

We get Argentina, the Zcucks get Nigeria kek

>>55341926
The perils of actually having high iq

Why should I buy this when it'll just be outlawed next year?

so i took my miner offline at the beginning of the year due to energy costs. checked the blockchain file and its 128GB big. just started it up on a new computer and put the blockchain file on an external harddrive and pointed teh wallet to it, and its been syncing for 2 days and im not even 5% syncd and the blockchain file has only grown by 300mb. i think its time to sell my monero, this project is retarded. the coders have no concept of end user experience. im a linux autist, i cant imagine a fucking windows normie NPC putting up with all this shit. sorry guys, im out. if monero ever becomes non-retarded let me know

>>55347359
Not in El Salvador beta

>>55347437
>filename
>1pbtid
>“I was a true believer like you guys but I had to sell you should too before normies realize how dumb it is”
Show your ECC, Inc. payment stubs

>>55347503
what?

Realistically you probably need 1000 XMR to 'make it' right?

>>55347721
If you're anything but a no-coiner you will make it. The amount of XMR just determines how far you'll get.
XX if you want to make it past 2030.
XXX for post-quantum apocalypse.
XXXX for rapture.

>>55347721
probably need to add a billion zeros to that shitcoin if you ever want to make it. who the fuck do you think is going to be using this shit when i pointed out how unusable it is right here?>>55347437
>>55347437


>be NPC
>open monero wallet
>wait 3 weeks for everything to sync
>check balance
>close monero wallet
>2 days later forget how much you had
>log in to check again
>another 2 weeks to sync

who the fuck do you envision using this shit besides literal sadomasochist linux autists who are fine spending 20 hours on google to figureout config issues

>>55348167
Normals would use remote nodes you fucking retard. They’d probably also store seed.txt unencrypted on their desktop but that’s beside the point

>>55348167

Trusted community nodes, genius.

>>55348167
SERAPHIS
FIXES
THIS

>>55313152
Drones and incendiary boombooms are a more effective weapon for liberation than guns.

>>55349389
devs are jumping ship, seraphis is dead

>>55349389
>>55349535
so quick update, this shitcoin is so much shittier than i thought. i literally made a transaction to my monero wallet 5 days ago and was synced up then powered off my laptop. just tried checking the balance today and its been 2 hours and still hasnt synced the difference from just a few days. how in the fuck does anyone think this garbage is going to be useful as currency?

FUNGIBLE and PRIVACY my ass. you cant even fucking see how much of this trash you have without waiting fucking days for the chinkshit network to update. that makes it completely useless.

>>55349629

You're absolutely right, sell everything, its truly over.

>>55349645
update it finally synced and i saw my balance. in a few days ill have to go trhough this bullshit inconvenience again

>>55348167
Npcs arent running nodes you retard.
They use cake wallet or other remote nodes.
Source: the dark net, which contrary to popular belief is mostly computer illiterates.

>>55349999
Just using your thread to check

>>55349980
Run a full node at home on desktop for holding wallet. Use remote node on mobile for spending wallet. It's really not that hard. Maybe you're just too retarded.

>>55349629
>>55348167
>>55349980
Sounds like user error, first sync takes a while and then each subsequent sync to "catch up" takes like a minute tops. Use a proxy to scan and cache blocks 24/7 if you want it to be instant.

It's a security feature, Monero is private, not magic.

>>55335691
Mass adoption is never gonna happen.

Monero is for darknet markets and a bit of tax evasion, that's it.

>>55351711
you would've said the same thing about bitcoin X years ago
you really think every rich person is gonna lay over and tolerate globohomo CBDCs?

>>55351711
>Mass adoption is never gonna happen.

True, but that goes for all crypto. CBDCs will reign supreme in the mainstream economy.

Monero is optimized for the shadow economy.

>>55351757
But nobody uses BTC.

People just hold it to sell it for an higher price, that's not a currency just a speculative asset without any utility.
And not even a lot of people, most of BTC is centralized in the hands of a few.

So yeah people will just use CDBC.

This doesn't mean XMR has no utility, as i said it's gonna be (actually it already is) the currency of the darknet markets mostly.

>>55351773
Exactly

>>55351821
Btc has half a trillion market cap. At the rate of money printing it could crab for a decade while monero posts real non speculative gains against the USD in the meantime. Btc is corrupted to the core

>>55351821
>But nobody uses BTC
True.
But does it matter as long as numbers go up?
Yes the price is coocoo for something with close to 0 utility but does it matter as long as you can trade it for something better with high probability of getting in the future more of the useful stuff for your bag?
It's basically game of a chicken where everyone knows(ok maybe not cyber hornets) that the value isn't there, but nobody is ready to short the shit out of it.

>>55352497

Once you realize that the BTC price is fraudulently manipulated upwards and could literally collapse at any moment since there is no sustainable economic activity propping it up you won't feel safe keeping *any* money in it.

Now, if you're willing to gamble, sure, you can make some juicy profits but then you might as well just play the roulette table at your local casino, it amounts to the same thing.

Meanwhile, I sleep like a baby knowing my XMR is backed by the finest uncut Colombian nose candy on the market and is set to become the exclusive medium of exchange in a growing, regulation-proof online shadow economy that is in totality worth multiple trillions of dollars.

>>55352720
>Meanwhile, I sleep like a baby knowing my XMR is backed by the finest uncut Colombian
It's not tho.
I watched my bags dump from 400 to 150 in few hours.
Guess how much nose candy you will get for 1 xmr if it's "value" is 400 burger bucks vs 150?

Guess what the nono dealer does with newly acquired xmr?
They dump it for cash to buy groceries.
How much avocados will they get when they his newly acquired bag dumps to 100?
The same people that are rigging stock market are rigging xmr price effectively making it hard to use as a currency. (Yes the price does matter when trying to exchange your bag for goods and services, and not larping on vietnamies basket weaving forum)

>>55352833
>It's not tho.
I watched my bags dump from 400 to 150 in few hours.

I'm talking about resistance to the crypto death spiral, a mission-critical asset like XMR has its value pegged to actual economic activity which keeps it from crashing to zero while Bitcoin loses more and more of that critical economic relevance every single day.

>Guess what the nono dealer does with newly acquired xmr?
>They dump it for cash to buy groceries.

lol narco cartels are absolutely flush with cash, Pablo famously had to start burying it because he literally had nowhere else to stash it.

So cashing out their XMR makes no sense for them, its far more valuable as a medium of exchange in a criminal circular economy e.g: receive XMR for cocaine shipment -> pay for sicario hit on rivals with XMR -> buy ammo for the hit with XMR -> buy ghosted Beretta arms shipment with XMR-> buy Colombian cocaine shipment with XMR ->.......rinse & repeat.

The entire point of a circular economy, criminal or otherwise, is to minimize or totally eliminate the need to cash out to fiat. But if that becomes necessary then fellow criminal syndicates are quite capable of meeting the demand for cold hard cash, which can then be laundered as per usual.

>>55353018
You keep repeating the "look how much money the bad guys have" and "muh circular economy" and so on.
Look at the market cap.
It's just not supporting these arguments(inb4 you link one of the 5 pics that keep on being posted every thread).
Let's just assassinate a guy for 5 xmr cause in our minds it's somehow worth more than buying 6 xmr with the useless cash we have so much around.
Look what happens when hackers demand ransom.
Those poor fucks have to ask for btc and then get busted cause there is literally no liquidity in xmr.

>>55353150
Dark net markets are a bellweather. If you don't understand that then there's no point trying to convince you.
Monero liquidity will only continue to improve as demand rises so your point would actually work against you if you care from an investment perspective.

>>55353150
>Look at the market cap.

lol seriously?

>there is literally no liquidity in xmr

The longest journey begins with the first step. Liquidity will improve over time, this isn't a race.

>>55353150
>muh market cap and liquidity
Neither matter for shit unless you’re trying to daytrade (or worse, run trading bots). XMR’s usecase is as a currency, and for that purpose it’s doing just fine

>>55352833
Do you Know Anything to combat this issue

>>55351337
my full node has been "syncing" for the past 3 days and still hasnt even made a single pixel of progress on the progress bar its only done like 10,000 blocks in 3 days out of 500,000,000

>>55351757
yeah i used to think the same thing but now i realize its doomed to be used purely by autists who dont mind waiting long periods of time for basic information like balance info.
>>55351821
trust me i used to think monero was the hidden gem and everone would switch from buttcoin to xmr but lately i realize thats never going to happen. i also came to the conclusion that even if it did, monero would be over because mass adoption would mean a government or google sized companies would just buy up warehouses of thousands of computers to mine and control the network. even theoretically if al the money in the world holding USD went to XMR, if the government actually saw it as a threat to their currency, and wanted to take it over and rewrite the rules you dont think they could just buy a couple million computers?

>>55354437
>a government or google sized companies would just buy up warehouses of thousands of computers to mine and control the network

lol the kinds of CPUs required to mine XMR at maximum efficiently are in HIGH demand from a plethora of other industries, genius, that's entirely the point of ASIC resistance, it forces a would-be attacker to wait in line and triggers a bidding war that drives prices to the moon, thus limiting the amount of hardware any one entity can realistically acquire.

Furthermore, mounting a defense has never been easier now that you don't even need to download the blockchain anymore, just select a trusted community node on Gupax and away you go! And as far as manpower goes, the number of *potential* miners is literally hundreds of millions of rigs and devices located all over the world, yet another benefit of ASIC resistance: no additional investment required, just use what you already have!

>just buy a couple million computers

lol just buy a million optimized computers on the open market without driving the price up, manually configure each one to mine XMR, secure over 9000 niggawatts of electricity from the grid and pray the Monero community doesn't start fighting back, bro!

>>55307892
H-Hello.... anyone in here actually real???

I miss /biz/.... I miss my bros.

>>55354698

Do you like cocaine?

>>55354398
You have a mechanical hard drive in your computer? IIRC it goes very slowly on a non-SSD drive.

>>55354735
I haven't done it actually, always been too poor.
You offering enough to get me a 3k sack of coke?
>I would never spend 3k on coke

>>55354678
I never thought I’d live to see the day where a system can grant real privacy but also make glowniggers unable to hide their attempts at cracking it. It’s beautiful

Why is Monero volume so huge on Kucoin?

Money laundering?

>>55355402
I think lots of other exchanges delisted XMR at the request of governments.

e.g.

"Starting from June 26, privacy tokens, such as Monero or Zcash will no longer be available for trading for Binance customers in France, Italy, Poland and Spain."

>>55354678
hey retard if the coin became so valuable why would the companies making the CPUs not just keep them for themselves and set up farms to mine retard

>>55354853
yes standard 7200 rpm disc drive

>>55355402
thast the only exchange i buy from because they havent cucked out with KYC jewry yet

>>55355873
>INTEL AIDING GLOBAL DRUG MARKET BY MINING DANGEROUS UNCRACKABLE CURRENCY
is not exactly a headline anyone wants. These niggers run public companies, if they’re suddenly spending more on electricity and getting less revenue from selling chips that goes in a public report and someone has to explain why

>>55355873
>hey retard if the coin became so valuable why would the companies making the CPUs not just keep them for themselves and set up farms to mine retard

Because the ensuing scarcity and unending demand would drive prices to Pluto so they'd still make more money by simply selling CPUs, dipshit

I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT MORE
I know that as a long-term (as in until society collapses) investment the immediate really doesn't matter but
I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT MORE

Still an infinite supply shitcoin.

Keep coping, baggies

AHEM

>>55356430
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

MONER.TOWN

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

SIGN UP FAGGOTS.