/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55331044
I got my hands on a birth year maple and a birth year kookaburra

QOTT: What is your guilty premium pleasure?

For me, it's exotic world gold.

Reminder than anyone on the internet telling you what to buy or not to buy has some gay ass angle and you should just stack what you like within your means for the best price you can find.

>>55331071
You're right and that's why I love JMBULLION they have great products.

>>55331062
Fuck premiums. Stack ounces

>>55331081
Hero is better than JM and you should be looking for deals on ebay, craigslist or on Nextdoor if you really know what's up

i got a horsie
neigh.. neigh..

So should I buy vintage banknotes that are rare or bad investment?

>>55331115
Paper burns and turns to ash. PMs just melt.

Shined up some dirty Silver Eagles

>>55331121
;_; but the booba anon

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMANY-100-Reichsmark-1935-P-183a-Large-Note-Higher-Denomination-UNC-UNC-/334497059529?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p4429486.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Fuck if I buy this than I can't buy a 1/10 gold coin or ducat....and if I buy this paper bill then I can only add a bunch of silver to the cart. What the fuck do I do I hate being so limited on funds kek

>>55331127

>>55331138
If you want booba buy the tard

>>55331138
I highly doubt that that is a good investment, seems overpriced too.

All Soviet kopeks are shipping from Ukraine at a massive premium. Fucking hilarious.

>>55331230
mmmmmmmmm kopeks

>>55331250
I like Soviet coins so much more than Nazi coins but they're both cool to own.

Though gold doubloons are expensive, I really think I'm going to buy a 1/2 escudo because its spanish gold and has history.

>>55331082
Guys like you always end up selling their stack at some point

So you wake up and the markets are down 15k points. You hear on the news people are raiding groceries, the coin shops have locked their doors. What are you going to be doing?

>>55331462
Giving men access to my butthole and mouth in exchange for food

>>55331343
Guys like you end up paying 50% premiums at some point

>>55331468
Same but I'll be doing it to make myself look poor. I even thought of a stage name, Johnny Salami

>>55331469
For cool coins that retain their value and I enjoy having and appreciating yeah.

Any french bros online? Can some of you link me a good french or other euro store that sells pic rel for -10% spot and delivers to Germany?

>>55331682
Is it legal to own the swastika coins in germany?

>>55331693
Yes, but you can't think about them, talk about them, let people know you have them, or allow the windmill to be seen when they sell. It's just a thoughtcrimes problem, not a possession issue

>>55331098
you're not afraid of getting scammed?

>>55331693
sure, but 5RM without le happy windmill go for about +15% spot and the ones with +40% minimum. 2RM all for +60% minimum. There are some ebay sellers with gold plated 5RM. https://www.ebay.de/itm/360650037627?hash=item53f86ad97b:g:ewAAAOSwUGFeUlin&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwJnGexYMmJ419ACA6aXdCB5yc6TxTYqUEV%2F9Qa76tDJmXmYw1PfvgSDIe6rU2ALFLBIDAVebPtlBemvFmLx3sWnBOKqkkFjmaq4xKDFK3iTun%2BKtzGjIxiSYqO1ktGA23h%2Fb8oxGnQcR4hxehWRN8mmirXuetylGUNlo0J5sPlRRNOj8v0xjXaYlIhxJzTWlNcQJPTYTbfqKiIkMKBcp6OsCi328EaKdJidZfKd%2F7qwKRnmgASQMZE0Msdq0N9SXUQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6aAhNuZYg

I'm only interested in the cheapest price for junk silver coins

If you have a 1/2 ounce how bad would it actually be to get the other 1/2 in 1/10 ounce coins?

>>55331062
These alphonse mucha proof coins.
But they so pretty yo
>>55331127
Reminds me of that Luger war contraband from k that someone “cleaned up”

I want to buy a metal detector and start prospecting parks/wilderness for coins, jewelry, and/or placer gold.
What brands/models do you guys suggest? What price should I be willing to pay?

>>55331462
I mean I have my stack and security set but I would still go outside and pretend to be crazy, you know, just for shits and giggles.

central bank digital currency is implemented
this allows for the blackest of swans
while the situation stabilizes - wouldn't it be better to have misc silver to barter rather than coins/bars, wouldn't want people to think you had prepared?

It's normal to find videos of talking heads making predictions ranging from $50-600/oz. If you are unresearched on silver, I hope you find this useful. If you have purchased physical silver recently, thanks for making a difference in exposing the lie.

There is only one measurement that has balanced the scales between man and metal for the last 2,000 years. Weight of physical silver against a day's labor is the standard for money. Here's the historical averages for silver value:

Babylonian workers earned 2.1 grams (1/15oz) per day. Greek workers earned 4.3g/day. Roman workers made 4.2g/day (pre-currency devaluation). The 1300s England saw an average of 2.1g/day. A thatcher (roofer) in 1261 would make 2.8g/ day. In 1341 it rose to 4.2g/day. In 1717, Newton fixed the ratio of gold and silver, keeping the metal values incredibly stable until Napoleon would come along. In 1938, nominal value of minimum wages was 4.5 OUNCES/day. 1974 nominal min wage value was 3.6oz. In 2015 it had reached 1.75oz. In the current environment, Biden's 2021 $15/hr minimum wage would buy 4.4 ounces of today's silver spot price.

There are 31.103 grams in 1 ounce of silver. For 2,000 years, it only took 2-5 of those GRAMS to equal a day's wage, depending on economy and specific type of labor. In 2019, the average American earned $936/week. In 2023, it rose (amazingly) to $984/week. Using these numbers, silver's natural and unmanipulated price (not counting industry and other forces) averaged to 3.1g/day labor would be valued at $1,968. $1,872 using 2019's rate. That's right, the $27/oz market ticker for silver that is being premium sold as high as $46/oz has officially separated. It should naturally be worth $1,968 of 2021 currency in a CALM economy under normal supply loads. BTW, at a 15:1, that would price gold at $29,520/oz.

- Post your tiniest stack.

- Post your fattest stack.

- Post your filthiest stack.

- Post your cleanest stack.

>>55331682
>>55331693
>>55331741
Is this a
>those burgers and their fucked up education
Issue or is 20 Francs now code for 5 Reichsmark? Because anon clearly posted a 20 Francs coin (from France, you know one of those countries that Germany tried to invade, but failed, so whole different country…).

>>55332053
no. He read I'm from Germany and want it to be delivered there. Maybe he thinks Nazi coins (about the same time as turin francs) are cheap here, but they're not necessarily. I just want to buy the cheapest of cheap silver junk and some suggested to me that's the 20 franc turin. But I can't find any coin store that sells them for their fabeled 20% below spot price.

>>55332060
see, not that cheap actually and without a swastika that is

>>55331741
Hasn't always been the case. Until a few months ago getting 5RM with big windmills was slightly cheaper than bullion. Sometimes you can still get them for 11-12€, but it's getting harder. The 5RM with the two small swats are still readily available. I like the design more, too.

>>55331250
>kopeks
always reminds me of reading Dostoevsky's 'Crime and Punishment'

>>55332060
Häh?
Bitte nochmal auf deutsch, weil dein Englisch versagt grad ein bissle.
Du (ID geändert weil per Handy online (o2, wo hat man mit denen überhaupt taugliche Verbindung?)) willst einen 20 Franc, weil Reichsmark zu teuer und alle haben das verstanden, außer mir?
Oder bist du jemand anderer der den ersten Post auch falsch versteht?

Anyways, didn’t some anon want some king chuck coronation coin? I got just the thing for you!

>>55332208
> The 5RM with the two small swats are still readily available. I like the design more, too.
Aren’t this the Church ones? Fuck, I just realized that the one without the date and windmills on the front still has them on the back and is indeed cheaper than Hindenburg, where the 4 windmill church is more expensive. Guess that’s the sleeper version that’ll soon moon. Too bad I already blew my pm budget for quite some time.

>>55331970
I agree with you but let's play devil's advocate to explore the reasoning:

There is a higher supply of silver in the world today. How can we be sure this increase in the silver supply (indeed, silver inflation) is not responsible for the increase of daily wages measured in silver?

There is more silver today today due to mining production, but also more people alive. Mike Mahoney has said the increasing supply of PMs has relatively kept up with birthrates, but how can we be sure? Maybe not enough new consumers (demand) met the increased supply, which is why silver is cheaper today, and wages in silver are higher, and price is close to where it belongs.

That being said, I know that Silver's price is definitely suppressed through paper trades, and the GSR is completely distorted right now. These are my highest reasons for stacking.

>>55332246
Yes, that's the one. Still to be had at reasonable prices. I guess they might go up like the post-1936 5RM.

>>55332026
>tiniest

>>55331970
As much as I enjoy reading these fantasies, I find them unlikely to be true. Don't get me wrong, I think silver is a perfectly fine physical asset and I do enjoy buying it (other than the fact that I'm collecting pieces of gray metal and think that that's some sort of "reasonable activity"). But while it seems true that the price of precious metals has been driven down by artificial supply, the demand that would drive it up is also largely artificial. Most of the money flows between people who simply want to speculate on silver, it's not like they want the actual silver. They are manipulating the market, but inadvertently: they print a bunch of "shitcoins", then they trade them among each other, and engage in a largely zero-sum game. It is a huge money-flow, but also a closed loop. They might as well print actual shitcoins and let the silver be, the effect would be the same. This is already a kind of primitive blockchain. The profit that each participant achieves is proportional to his ability to predict the moves of other participants. It is pure game-playing. Yes, the Hunt-brothers did actually attempt to manipulate the market in the actual sense: they attacked the network, though in the financial sense.

>>55332325
I think the presumption is that the demonetization of silver globally tanked the demand and that remonetization would restore it along with historic exchange value. In the absence of remonetization, I have some doubts about new valuation levels

>>55332524

Nice!

>>55332561
I think comparing silver, which has a three thousand year cross-cultural global history as money to shitcoins is quite a stretch.

>>55332741
Does that mean I may be holding white metal for nothing aside from an instrument of speculation and hopeful industrial demand?
I highly doubt we will see a return to silver used as day to day money, barring a complete collapse of civilization

While its not a PM per se, but I still like it: Thungsten
There was a meme video of a guy with a 4inch (10cm) block of it and Im thinking of getting one
But its 4k$ and honestly thats a lot

I looked for simliar stuff but its generally really expensive but why?

Even China wants $100 silver.

>>55332751
It is more established, and thus has more staying power in popular opinion, but it is not mechanically distinct. Physical silver is the "real asset" and futures are the shitcoins. The shitcoins are traded around, some portion of them backable by physical, but that's insubstantial. Few of them want the physical anyway, they are just interested in trading. In principle, no physical even need exist. If they employed a blockchain to trade tokens, it'd just be a different implementation of the current legacy system of futures. The "network", if we want to use that analogy, can be attacked by draining liquidity from it, but that only works because the futures and the physical are "co-mingled" (they aren't really co-mingled, as said; when you're buying a future, you're never getting physical, even probabilistically; you always buy the future without anything physical being traded around).
If you notice, you yourself co-mingled futures and physical because you appealed to the property of silver being traditional money, which is completely unrelated to the futures market. Because I criticized futures, you thought I was criticizing silver and therefore replied accordingly.

Silver futures are a shitcoin - not in the sense of being particularly bad, but in that of it being some made-up token to facilitate trading. Silver does have some industrial uses, but it's also traded around as the "generic commodity", as a money-made-into-a-commodity. A kind of monopoly money. Yes, it can function as actual money too and it has done so in the past, but what I mean is that the people who trade it don't see it that way. They do operationally think that they're playing around with monopoly money: it just something "fun to collect" to them. But they can't create actual silver, so they create made-up silver and trade that around. The same thing happened in the great bullion famine, but that back then was real, whereas today, it's a game with silver and real in Eurodollars.

>>55332976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO7-vQu6f0s
This Boomer is saying there will be a massive gold revaluation by either China or the FED. The race is on to see who makes the first the step, the problem is that US may not at the moment have the necessary gold to make such a move.

>>55331051
They didn't make kooks yet when I was born. I was hoping to get an gold krugerrand but that year is lower mintage, so I didn't.

Soon...

>>55331062
I bought 2019 and 2021 kooks for a lotta money (39 and 37 euros). The 2020 and older ones I'm priced out of.

>>55333004
>the great bullion famine

What was that? Sounds like the situation in late medieval Europe before the Spanish found their New World bonanza, when lots of silver had been sent out to the Muslims, India and elsewhere. Or maybe the 18th and early 19th century scarcity of PMs due to the China trade and expenses of the Napoleonic wars?

>>55333124
>What was that? Sounds like the situation in late medieval Europe before the Spanish found their New World bonanza, when lots of silver had been sent out to the Muslims, India and elsewhere.
It was that.

>>55333116
soon indeed! Pre-orders are over and we are getting the order information and other things finalized.

has anyone gotten a custom made coin box? I want something like this, ut not sure how to get it made

>>55331462
I join the neighborhood biker gang, and we patrol 24/7.

What will become of numisfags that paid 5x melt value for collectors premium? How much goblin pussy can I get for a Napoleon 5 franc?

>>55331682
Probably won't find those in a store under spot. Better just buy them on ebay.

>>55331862
Already covered in previous threads
Top suggestions are minelab or Garrett
Spend $300-$500 US
Once you're proficient with one of those talk to other detectors and see what works for them. Visit actual shops and try other models

It really doesn't matter what you buy, you just need to get good with it. Most of us don't really like talking about metal detectors. We're not in it for the machine. What you use doesn't matter as long as you know how to use it

>>55332026
>Post your tiniest stack.

>>55332026
>Post your filthiest stack.

>>55332783
Don't YOU know why you are stacking silver? Seems an odd question.

I stack silver because I think it will hold value against a collapsing dollar and most other assets are riding on a debt bubble that is likely to burst.

Some folks think, with reason, that the industrial demand for silver, along with a diminishing of supply, will sustain long-term growth in its exchange value.

Some folks think, again with reason, that silver is being manipulated in an unsustainable way and that the result, when the scam unwinds, will be a jump in the fiat price of silver.

Some folks think that silver will be remonetized and that demand will soar along with its exchange value. I am skeptical of this. I think gold is far more likely to be remonetized.

That's it in a nutshell. If you have somewhere better to put fiat dollars, do tell.

>>55333192
Can't speculate on your eventual goblin pussy dividends, but I do want to commend you for the classy selection of old world "crowns" you've been putting together. All have great toning and superior eye-appeal, and are in nice condition without being too high-grade and expensive. Collecting very appealing coins like yours which can still be fondled without fear of shaving points off a MS-XX grade and hurting value is where it's at, your taste in coins seems almost the same as mine but you've clearly exercised more discipline in sticking to your standard than I can usually muster.

>>55331115
>should I buy vintage banknotes

Ehh, I wouldn't bother investing in them but having some cheaper examples to look at and serve as a contrast to your old coins is nice.

>>55332026
>- Post your tiniest stack.

The ancient Greeks mogged all in the tinyboi department.

>>55332026
>- Post your fattest stack.

And the Siamese with their nearly spherical "bullet" coins probably qualify as having the fattest with respect to relative dimensions.

>>55333159
building one currently, finally got the new patina product, viton gasket and silver cloth. havnt put em on yet.
take some wood, buy/borrow an angle drill press vise or build an angled jig - clamp it at an angle, drill some holes and glue some fabric. can use hand drill or a press - just practice. glass cutters are cheap. get creative.

>>55331769
That would cost like at least 200 extra in premiums just for the little fractionals

>>55331769
Not bad at all. Yes the premiums are high, but the actual outlay is still small.
Recommended only as a representative sample though - not for stacking.

>>55333159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_MMR7TYLGQ

>>55333352
Impressive. Could be made of aluminum (then anodized to any color) though. No need for it to be that heavy. The idea is bug-out, no?

>>55333371
looks like they are already. expensive too

>>55331731
Don't see the Fnord. You may have searched for the fearsome Boojum. You may have hunted the dreaded Wumpus. You may even have defeated the mighty Jabberwock. But Don't See The Fnord! If you don't see the Fnord, it can't hurt you. Just look away. Forget it's even there. Because, after all, it isn't. There is no Fnord, and you are perfectly safe as long as you remember this.

>>55331961
Silver isn't for barter, it's money. These are for barter.

Hey janny
Hang yourself
Your mom will be so happy

>>55333424
Thank you for your sacrifice anon, I hope your ban doesn't last too long

>>55333285
That's really flattering, thanks. Love your authentic kraut stack. Always nice to meet someone with an eye for the classics.

>>55333192
I have both numis and bullion, idk which is better

>>55333322
Checked and based. Nice job fren.

>>55332208
11€ ia about +20% already, too expensive
>>55332215
yes mobile internet. I just want cheap silver junk
>>55333221
tried ebay, it's mostly single coins and way too expensive at that

>>55331769
If you're so poor that you're buying 1/10th Oz of silver every paycheck or something it wouldn't be the worst thing, but if you can afford it you should really stick to 1oz and above. But hey if you wanna start small, go for it!

>>55331769
Talking about silver, or gold?

>>55333490
Both. Both are better ;)

>>55333507
sorted by cheap to expensive. They contain 13.6g silver, no? Way too expensive, maybe you could get them vastly under spot years ago

>>55333536
>maybe you could get them vastly under spot years ago
Unlikely any silver dealer ever sold much below spot
That's probably a myth

>>55333469
u need honey and oats

>>55333557
>silver dealer
Right. Coin resellers, right. But sometimes people not too keen on silver price sell for close to "exchange rate" I've seen in the past. And pre-Euro currency exchange rates began to end in the 90's, so they may be looking at data from exchange rates in the 80s. Typically mom and pop shops or people who cleaned out grandpa's collection looking to make a quick buck.

>>55333557
ok then I'll stop trying, gonna stay with DM and Schillings

>>55333536
>They contain 13.6g silver
Yeah the 20 francs coins do, the 10 francs only have 6.8 grams.
This shop has some for 490 euros (in quantity of 50 coins), but that's still a little bit above spot price.
https://monnaiesmedailles17.com/43-special-investissement

>>55333423
I'm not sure I see the distinction.. how do you define money?

>>55333605
Sure, that's how dealers make money. We pay less than spot. Sometimes a lot less.
Those sorts of deals are out there, but you're competing with professional bargain hunters to find them.

>>55333644
>competing with professional bargain hunters
Who do you think you're taking to?

>>55333476
Thanks fren, but for better or worse I don't really have many serious or specific numismatic foci, I'm more of a general full-spectrum accumulator than a disciplined patrician dollar/crown-sized silver collector. I don't really regret it, but at the same time I recognize the importance of sticking to parameters and building a cohesive collection so you really should keep doing exactly what you've been doing, you have a superior eye for appealing coins so I'd love to see the next prizes you come across and add to your hoard.

>>55333658
>Who do you think you're taking to?
Mostly amateurs

>>55333632
https://monnaiesmedailles17.com/20-francs-turin/21471-product.html
ah thx! so about 72 cents per gram, decent. Gon a bookmark this site. They do deliver to Germany I asume?

>>55333644
>We pay less than spot.

G'mornin Bob and yes we do, whenever possible anyway. I went out digging some more and found a particularly rare slugplate-embossed quart milk bottle, worth $100 which is pretty good for any machine-made piece. Heading out again in a few days to dig some different older spots and got permission to detect around a coach-stop tavern from the 1860s, probably been hit more than once before though. Have you detected, dug or acquired anything cool lately?

>>55333716
I was thinking of you when I said it. You constantly pay far less than spot

Found this junk yesterday. Not as cool as your bottle, but fun to find anyways

>>55333706
oh well gotta contact them. their site is so ugly

>>55333779

>>55333706
It says here that for orders outside of France they take wire transfer, and to contact them via their email address to find out what the shipping costs are.
https://monnaiesmedailles17.com/content/3-cgv

>>55333643
Barter is the exchange of goods or services directly. Money is a fungible medium of exchange that is interposed in that exchange. The line blurs occasionally under unusual circumstances where gold or silver are unavailable. But when they ARE available they always take over.

>>55333816
very professional I see. I guess there is a space at the '. 17' or something

>>55333756
>Found this junk yesterday. Not as cool as your bottle, but fun to find anyways

What is that art-nouveau item? Looks like it's broken and the piece on the left should be flipped right-side up and put to the right of the fragment on the right? Is it the back of a brush or something like that? And that local 4th of july medal/pin from 1900 is super badass, but since you don't seem too excited I guess you've seen them before? I'll post any cool detections if I luck upon some but I figure I'll need to get creative to find things other hunters missed, places like that would have probably been hammered by guys like you since before I was born.

>>55333530
When I started stacking I liked the look of bullion more but now I’d rather have a nice toned Morgan dollar than a new shiny Maple, I think best for buying is junk as that tends to sell closest to spot, best for selling is bullion, and best for collecting is numis

>>55331127
looks good, king!

>>55333855
I'm guessing the silver ladies were part of a picture frame. I'll go back in a day or two because some seems to be missing

The pin medal is a design I've never seen before and I've seen lots. I'd guess it's extremely rare but that doesn't translate well to value. Probably worth about $30 like the common ones. I wont sell it

Everywhere I detect has been combed over thousands of times, I still find tons of stuff. Often valuable stuff. You will find stuff that got missed.

>>55333840
okay i hear you - so i'm thinking tinned fish and fuel for the days after the massive solar flare, PMs for the period following when people realise they can't bring the old system back online

>>55331230
(((Fitting)))

>>55333846
There shouldn't be any spaces. If that one doesn't work, try the other email at the bottom of the page I linked >>55333816

Fellow USAfags, is there any interest in forming some type of casual breakaway pmg group chat or something to discuss metals but also some poor man's numismatics?
Nothing against pmg fags from other countries but it's really hard to discuss relatable things from other countries when it comes to prices and aquiring metals.
We can share deals, share our recent pickups and coinstar and bankroll finds. 4chan sucks for posting images. And eventually I would like to do swaps for coins we need for sets or whatever.
If the group gets established I'll even do a giveaway of 1oz silver and some common date Third Reich 2RM and probably some other goodies.
I will post this in a few threads and see what people think and I'll make an email to contact.

No paranoid fags pls

>>55333938
>4chan sucks for posting images

>>55333920
I don't think a global catastrophe will be required to return to commodity money. That is the natural state of advanced economies. Fiat money is the historical anomaly that will collapse of its own weight. When (not if) the dollar does its face plant, gold and/or silver will be there to resume the historically normal pattern.

>>55333507
>11€ ia about +20% already, too expensive
What kinda premiums are you expecting?

>>55333977
I'm inclined to agree, Fiat is a meme but the music could keep playing for a while yet - meanwhile the black swan could hit at any point

>>55333975
I know right. Kind of ironic for an "image board" right? Myself like many others are usually on our phones while browsing. I have to resize and type multiple captchas just to share a simple picture. It's really slow and annoying.

>>55333290
any clue what we got here?
Hemiobols? Hemitetartemorion?
>>55332524
>2.5 grains of silver
neat but worth less than a post stamp

>>55334020
You seem to have no understanding of where you are

If silver is such a good circulating money then why did hold outs like Mexico get before? Mexico held out on both the gold standard (into the 1950s) and the silver standard (1979) and had to give up both times

>>55334030
I've probably been on 4chan longer than you. with any hobby it's great to find like minded individuals that share your interests. I would find more interesting and relatable people here than whatever normie social media stacking group I join.
If you're not interested just ignore. No need to clog up the thread.

>>55334070
>with any hobby it's great to find like minded individuals that share your interests
That's why we're in /pmg/. You don't need to dangle giveaways in front of people to get a mailing list to do trades

>>55334022
>worth less than a post stamp
For now. After collapse of the USD it would be enough to send several letters at least.

>>55333393
Looks right. Narrator mentioned it holds 105 oz and is "very heavy" when full, so I just assumed it was made of something dense, because 7 lbs isn't what I'd call 'heavy.'
Thanks for setting me right.
And yeah - stupid expensive.

>>55332026

Serving of the Silver Stacker Sampler coming right up! (And a side dish of fractional gold...)

>>55333937
I am stupid, the translator translated the email address.
>>55334009
zero or below zero

>>55332561
>Most of the money flows between people who simply want to speculate on silver, it's not like they want the actual silver
speak for yourself, faggot

>>55334068
Central bankers pushing their ururious fiat via hook and crook, simple as. Real honest money is good for us, bad for them.

>>55334070
What's your specific issue/limitation with posting images?

>>55333393

>"People have said 'cash is king' for years"

If that's so, then gold is god

>>55334155
If it were that simple wouldn't Mexico have capitulated years earlier? And not tried the same thing again with silver?

>>55333271
>Some folks think that silver will be remonetized and that demand will soar along with its exchange value. I am skeptical of this. I think gold is far more likely to be remonetized.
if gold is remonetized, silver will be as well. thinking otherwise is a very american thing. go to india and tell them silver will never be remonetized lol

>>55334130
>the translator translated the email address
I told you man. I told you about the technology.

>>55334084
I've already mentioned why it doesn't work out for what I'm looking for.
Who said anything about a mailing list You're totally paranoid and have no idea how things work.

>>55333347
very nice

>>55334020
>I have to resize and type multiple captchas
No you just suck at 4chan's captchas.

>>55334165
Cash used to mean specie not paper
Look at google for the definition and the opposite. The opposite of cash is credit. Paper notes are credit and carry counter party risk.
Don't believe me ask JP Morgan.

>>55334185
You wanted feedback and you're getting it. Just because you're a phoneposter doesn't mean people need to migrate to you

>>55334184
more like why can't they have a site option for english?

>>55334144
Would you agree that the silver market is artificially inflated? Because it exists at all, on COMEX, people cannot all be demanding delivery, or the market would implode. Some people do demand delivery, but they must therefore be the minority among market participants.

>>55334209
I get terrible ones all the time where you can't tell what some of the letters are. So it's wrong and it takes forever to load a new one and then it's wrong again. I would much rather share my images in a group chat format where it takes 2 seconds to post and my image is full size.

>>55334155

>>55334226
It looks like a small retail shop that also happens to sell on the web. Pictures of their store here:
https://monnaiesmedailles17.com/content/4-magasin

About to make my first purchase. I'm going to get 2 oz of gold.
Should I get coins or bars? And does it matter which mint I choose if I plan to hold forever? I find some of the bars to be more aesthetic, especially the 10oz bars.

>>55331062
That's a beautiful coin.

I have a hank for them too but if I ever start stacking rare gold, it's going into a historical collection, not to ever be sold until very near my death. And even then, I would require visitation rights to my babies.

>>55334214
Sometimes I post on my phone and sometimes GASP I posting on my computer. One can use both. Nobody said anything about migrating to some MOBILE PHONE ONLY group so not sure what that has to do with anything. Regardless of what device I'm using that has nothing to do with wanting a group chat type format with like minded people from my country where I can share images fast and discuss poor man's coin collecting and stacking.
I'm just trying to throw some ideas out there and do something fun. Not sure why you're being shitty.

>>55334304
Get one AGE and one Britannia. Slightly more fungible than bars.

>>55334294
>It looks like a small retail shop that also happens to sell on the web. Pictures of their store here:
Jup it is a small local coin shop in France, been there before actually, have good prices that is why I recommended to you guys here

>>55334329
Because you're trying to replicate /pmg/ and take discussion away from here because you have issues with captcha. This place is already what you're looking for and it didn't even need to dangle a giveaway in your face

>>55334341
This. Fuck the another likeminded glow group, PM's should be kept private anyway. First retards splitting threads, now this?

New stack pic

>>55334304
>10 oz gold bar
Dude why are you asking us? If you have that much money to drop shouldn't you be asking an expert bullion jew in person?

>>55333938
>the group gets established I'll even do a giveaway
Holy fuck fed fed go away come glow again another dah

>>55334419
Looking good fren.

>>55334453
Jup, never had any problem with US fags, instead it is literally the opposite. I learned from you guys which US silver coins is good

>>55331127
Bro were those scratches there already? All you need is some warm water and baking soda...

>>55334459
>Swiss shooting festival
Gigabased
>Jeweral Jewserve Jewnotes made of silver
Kinda gross, sorry anon.

>>55334341
I'm looking at doing something different why would I want to replicate it? I would just stay here. This is definitely not what I'm looking for.

I win GAWs of silver and coins all the time on Instagram and WhatNot. It's fun and everyone loves it. Like I said I'm just throwing ideas out there and thought it would be something fun to do it's not for enticing people to join or however you interpret it. Feel free to hit me up on IG and I'll discuss this with you all day, not on here but I'm guessing you're too paranoid to use it.
real ONE troy WORD ounces

>>55334304
You should buy coins, because they're easier to verify. I buy krugerrands, because they're 22 karat and well-established coins that are very liquid worldwide, and have very low premiums. If you want .999 gold, you should look into the britannias and maples, as they have some additional security features.

>>55334486
Lol im imagining him sanding them down with a scotchbright pad

>>55334453
You got to be trolling. This is a level of pmg paranoia I didn't know was possible.

>>55334510
You assume the only thing we do is stack silver. At the end of the day the reality so that anyone who wants to do any of this in public is 1) simply trying to make money, 2) fully invested in the system which I am fully divested from out of stupidity, or 3) fully invested in the system which I am fully divested from because of Fed affiliation

I'm all cases I don't care to have anything to do with it.

>>55334510
FUCK I hate autocorrect

>>You assume the only thing we do is stack silver. At the end of the day the reality is that anyone who wants to do any of this in public is 1) simply trying to make money, 2) fully invested in the system which I am fully divested from out of stupidity, or 3) fully invested in the system which I am fully divested from because of Fed affiliation

In all cases I don't care to have anything to do with it.

>>55333918
Thanks for the extra info man
>I'd guess it's extremely rare but that doesn't translate well to value
Yep I'm sure we can come up with many such cases, but I think it's a great blessing that very rare or unique items can be obtained cheap as long as no one else really cares about them or recognizes what's special. I picked up this old primitive settler/homesteader era milking stool last year carved from a single piece of wood, I assume with a hatchet. Tons of old wear and patina and superlative character for only $2. Compare with mass-produced soulless "collectibles" like beanie-babies and I know what I'll choose.

>>55334492
>not an irony enjoyer

>>55334304
>Should I get coins or bars?
Always coins as they have benefits of being capital gains tax free.

>>55333526
Gold

>>55334550
I had a book typed out in response to this but forget it. You have a really weird way of interpreting things. Not everyone is out to get ya buddy.
I said no paranoid people. Just don't reply if it's not your thing. It would be easier for both of us and anyone ITT.

>>55334022
>any clue what we got here? Hemiobols? Hemitetartemorion?
Yep the heaviest few there are Hemiobols and small fractions of staters or Achaemenid sigloi, the smaller ones are Tetartemoria, hemitetartemoria, and even a few 1/4 tetartemorion (1/16th obol or 1/96th drachm) specks, extrapolating from their 30-40mg weight anyway. Imagine trying to keep track of those things. I'm sure it was hard enough to avoid losing the "tiny" half dimes or 3 cent silvers of more modern times, but the tedium of sifting through the dirt or grass to recover a 3-4mm speck was probably wasted effort half the time. I'm sure the widespread mintage and use of larger bronze coins for small denominations by the 4th century BC was a welcomed improvement.

>>55333490
numis in good times, bullion in bad times.

>>55334608
Lol this can't be real

>>55334696
Pretty bad. Fractional gold is tough. IMO, if you want "fractional gold", get silver rounds or coins. It's worth a FRACTION (haha) of what gold is.

>>55333938
I'm at least interested, but not sure how advantageous a large group ultimately becomes. Drop a proton and I'd chat about the idea and see if this is worth being a proper plan

>>55334068
Those coins are great stackers.
Ugly as fuck, and there are millions of them, so no numi premium. They are hefty and state their silver content plainly.

>>55334563
Ah that stool is awesome!

I've only found three pinnacle medals in 35 years of detecting here, so they're fairly rare. Just not very expensive in dug condition. I also flip them on eBay. The shiny ones here are rare and fairly valuable. About $300 each vs around $30 for the ones I've dug. I just think they're neat finds though. Interesting history.

>>55334795
>pinnacle
Pin back

>>55334763
You can get francs and gulders for 3-5% premium

>>55334795
>The shiny ones here are rare and fairly valuable. About $300 each vs around $30
Wait, what? Throw a restoration fag a bone and tell me how the market would respond to a polished and electroplated one? I assume they won't get 300 with some wear but this can't really be a "cleaned coin" situation, is it?

>>55334750
It very much is:
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm6518391/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Mnuchin

>>55334826
Nah those 2 are valuable because they're extremely rare and like new

I'm not aware of dug examples of either medal. I've only seen a couple of each, possibly only one that sold a couple times

are the 10 and 50 franc coins actually this shinny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-bHDQwlxXo

recently got one and was assuming it had been cleaned

>>55334854
Thanks for the share! And for being kind about my minunderstanding that the shiny ones ARE rare, rather than shiny means valueable. This shit is hella cool, and I was looking for an excuse to get into it myself.

>>55334795
Those are awesome, especially the 'A '79-er" with grizzly gun-toting miner and pack mule, surely that one is worth even more than $300? I know Leadville got going in the 1870s but what is the significance of 1879? Is that when the silver mining boom really took off? Was there a big rush of claim staking and new miners that year?

And thanks I think the stool is badass, most unique one I've ever seen (not that I've seen very many milking stools) and dripping with character. 499/500 were probably burned or junked 100+ years ago when they became obsolete.

>>55334705
rad thanks for the explanation

I want to have a gold chest like this one day. It's sad I can't keep anything after death. I wonder how many anons here have gold or silver that was once cherrished so very much by the previous owners of these things we collect

>>55334924
Yeah sometimes rarity matters way more than condition.
I once turned down a cash offer of $2000 for pic related. It's the only one of its kid. Shit condition tho
>>55334935
Imagine the ancient butt dna!

Yep 1879 was when silver boomed here. That medal is from 1896 though. Carnival souvenir

>>55334980
>That medal is from 1896 though. Carnival souvenir
Both shiny medals are from the same event, as is the dug one bottom right

>>55334980
>I once turned down a cash offer of $2000 for pic related

Based Bob dashing the dreams of inferior token-autists. Too bad they struck it in zinc or whatever, but maybe you'll find a nice brass one someday.

>>55335038
Yeah, aluminum and it didn't age well

I'd give my last three teeth for a brass example! They probably made some

>>55335038
Good to see you
I'm off to a father's day bbq and rave
Have a good one

Is it wrong I like to look into gold buys for their history and design rather than cheaper gold that gives me more quantity in the end? Tell me it's a bad idea so I stop hunting for gold spanish doubloons

Is this COIN at the store on the corner already poisoned?
h

>>55335073
>I'm off to a father's day bbq and rave

I'm having "burnt ends" (brined, smoked and grilled brisket) today myself, not cool enough for raves though lol. take care bro.

>>55334969
depending on how much you are willing to compromise I fear you will not get really close.

Just got back from the coin show, I bought a VFish $10 Liberty head eagle for $1050 instead of 2x 1/4 oz krugs for 1060.

Did I fuck up lads? I would’ve gotten more gold w/the krugs and it looks like Liberty coin is charging less than 1050 for their eagles, although I think they’re in slightly worse shape. I really wanted some pre33 but feel like I made a mistake.

They were apartheid era krugs too

>>55335159
Kek I think you are right.

>>55335164
I'd say both of those were fair deals, but you are right about LC being slightly cheaper.

>>55334829
>early life

>>55335207
>film producer
>former Goldman Sachs employee
>secretary of the treasury

Why even bother looking fren

>>55334865
>are the 10 and 50 franc coins actually this shinny?

The coins in the video looked polished/proof like. The normal circulation ones are not like that, the have that mint gloss similar to an uncirculated Morgan Dollar

Who is the richest stacker here?

>>55335343
someone wise enough to not raise their hand to a question like that

>>55335343
The most I've seen pictured and verified was over 25 ounces of gold. But there's a stark difference between "richest stacker" and "biggest stack".

crypto nerds will seethe

>>55335447
the ad I got on /k just now

The hell is wrong with this country's money?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-100-Korun-Specimen-Czechoslovakia-Narodni-Banka-Currency-Note-Legacy-66-PPQ-/193526369250?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p4429486.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

>>55333254
>>55333263

Nice! I'd say my smallest is a 1gram silver valcambi bar!

>>55333290

Love it!

>>55333307

You guys have some cool stuff!

>>55334129

I love that double maple leaf!

>>55335343
Maybe whoever this guy is

>>55335603
That's brass.

>>55334179
Suits me either way or both. But the currency to be issued by the BRICS will most likely be backed by gold, not silver. And that is going to be leading the new world.

>>55335663
>Having faith in Russia and India

>>55334209
captchas? lol

Thoughts on this ducat?


https://www.apmex.com/product/271754/1831-united-kingdom-of-the-netherlands-gold-ducat-xf

>>55335742
Du can't afford it

>>55335721

>>55331044
What is that square dime?

>>55335721
Doesn't matter what you think, gold will suffer from a eventual massive price revaluation, mostly likely a massive Black Swan event like the commercial estate collapse in the West which will collapse the confidence in the FED and USD as they don't have enough liquidity to bailout everyone.

>>55335748
I can, anon. Don't project kek

>>55335763
The fed will still put pressure on pushing cbdc. I wonder how that will go?

Y'all ain't ready...

Sold a shitload of 90% and like, 120 eagles at the coin shop. This is my current stack. I went through everything before I sold and kept all the nicest stuff

>>55335742
Ducats are based, but you pay a premium with this one though dus to its age

>>55335806
why didn't you hide it and file bankruptcy. weak

There is no escape. Her blood curdling screams are muffled by the gelatinous mass of flesh overtaking her body. She has lost the will to fight. Her flesh and bone fuses with the creatures, becoming one. Nothing is left. Her begging for mercy was unanswered. Her soul now shares the fate with dozens of other victims...

A dark haze over my eyes blinds my mind from the 3-ring circus of turkeys and rainbow trout.

Arugula my son. Feed.

>>55335806
I'm curious, how much did they buy your ASEs for?

>>55335811
I think if I buy it and ever need to sell I can sell with its premium hopefully

>>55335878

$35

>>55335792
>The fed will still put pressure on pushing cbdc.
And this changes what exactly? The confidence in the USD will be shattered even if it is in a digital form.

1:7

>>55335920
Okay it is shattered, are normies going to still accept it or will they cuck out. You're not understanding that the direction of flow is brought about the masses and the masses are idiots and under control. You're not the main character

>>55335993
Yes, there will be CBDC even in the BRICS version that is not up to debate. There will be no resistance, the biggest difference will be that the BRICS version will be backed by commodities like gold and silver and the US version by IOUs.

>>55335541
Seems based to me. They should have a guy's erection too

>>55335878
36 and I had like, 6 culls I sold for 27.

Back dates he gave me 38 but I only had a couple of those.

>>55335806
>New Vegas
based.

>>55336020
What timeframe are we working with here?

>>55336196
about two weeks i'd say.

>>55336175
I bought two collectors sets at a goodwill auction just for the chips and coins

>>55333123
Got a 10 oz Kook coin on the way. I'll post a pic when it comes in

still can't stop buying rms
i'm running out of good ones to buy

test

>>55333490
God I love Maple Leafs

>>55332026
All in one

>>55335721
Nothing to do with "having faith". The BRICS+ are not issuing their own currency for my benefit. They are pursuing their own interest, which is definitely and expressly against the interest of the USA and will contribute to the ultimate failure of the USD. Stacking gold and silver is a way of selling short the USD and the USA, both of which are good bets in my opinion.

>>55335965
2:1
Industrial demand vs. sitting in a banksters vault

>>55335792
Nobody with any choice in the matter will accept a Fed shitcoin to replace the collapsed dollar. So CNDC wil go nowhere at all.

>>55336145
What’s a back date? I’m a bong and I have some 1990 ases. Are they worth more than a 2022 to collectors?

>>55335993
Nice demoralization FUD. Nothing is under control. There is no all-powerful elite pulling the global strings. There is chaos. Some people are better at extracting benefits from chaos than others. Stack PMs and you have a better chance of snatching benefits from the unfolding chaos.

>>55336020
>There will be no resistance
Oh but there will be and in fact there already is. Florida already passed an anti-CBDC bill, and Texas is working towards its own independent currency that includes gold and silver coins. Then there's the african countries they've been trying to run CBDC on and nobody is going for it.

>>55331970
This picture says fuck all lol. Jeez you people are dumb.

>>55336341
I bet your favorite movie is Schindler's List

>>55331044
>Wanna buy gold
>Have to focus on silver for when the ratio corrects itself
What a horrible feel

>>55336575
I just bought another ounce of gold and cant help but think about all the silver I could have bought with $2,080

Wtf is this?

>>55336593
That's exactly what I'm thinking. I wanna buy a gold coin but I can get over 70 silver coins for the same price.

I wanna fill a chest with it but I feel like a need a 22k gold coin.

>>55336263

Convince me to keep my helvetia gold coin. Despite it being 90% gold its fucking rose gold and not as gold as my other gold MY AUTISM IS GOING OFF

>>55336663

Put it in its own display capsule and separate it from the other coins.

>>55336575
its hard to believe people pay attention to the gsr

>>55336678
Seperating metals? Are you mad, anon?

Sorted out my blow jobs.
Going to look at mint marks for a laugh. Found out one of my 65 Kennedy 1/2 dollars was a Denver.

>>55336779
If I actually suck you off can I have one? You don't need to wait for the apocalypse

>>55336775

>Are you mad, anon?
Have you seen my other posts sir?

>>55336787
Maybe the one covered in cement/plaster or something since I don’t know what you look like. Do you have a pretty mouth?

>>55336823
Oh my goodness....the color is off in the coins and they arent all equal....

>>55336823
It's a $3 dime, if I suck you off I want to pick the dime

>>55336841
Modern bullion sovereigns switched up composition and they're way more reddish

>>55336846
The 1916 (with dirt) is san fran, a 1936 and 1943 are Denver. The barber is so worn I can’t tell.
>>55336841
Soz m8. I just stuck em down and took a photo. Didn’t use a protractor or extra light.

Some British blowjobs (top)
Some lacklustre blowjobs or thorough handjobs middle and bottom. Then whatever a groat is worth. Although that one is in excellent condition so I’d expect about 20 blowjobs for that one.

>>55333469
what did he post? did i miss silver booba?

>>55337012
He disrespected the powers that be. That's a big no-no

>>55337077
How much are your pork and beans? My off brand ones are 65p a can.

>>55337115
Would have liked to buy that coin for my mom. The dealer only has "cats" (but she hates those).

>>55337146

I love you.

>>55337146
Yeah, I got this for my kid. I showed them a bunch of cute animal ones like “cats”, quokka and some Disney stuff and they wanted that one. I’ll probs get the cat one later.

Full Rhodesian set just went up for $7,000 on eBay who wants it

>https://www.ebay.com/itm/275909633040

If they don't get an "dogs" coin, I'll be forced to buy that australian dingo coin that doesn't have a capsule because it's a weird size.

>>55337208
cute

>ctrl + f
>janny
>zero results
so anyways, I farted on a janny

>>55335447
>the retarded ritual persists
blessed

>>55336697
>if i dont pay attention to it it doesn't exist

>>55337198
I'm going to buy it and film me melting them down and then pouring a trans symbol icon and it will be such an iconic moment that it will resell for even more than the Rhodesian gold would

>>55337208
The dingo coin is based. Capsules are lame anyway, fondle it

>>55337511
All those posts were deleted already

>>55337655
a BLM medallion or a crude black dildo would be more apt

>>55335732
>I pay for something that's free
Wew lad.

>>55337676
The dildo is gold by definition

>>55337688
i can shitpost at the speed of light
captchas are too difficult these days

>>55337688

>>55337675
Yes, some of them were mine
kill jannies with hammers

>>55337704
>captchas are too difficult
No you're just dumb.
>>55337707
Yeah I get those too.

>>55337718
>kill jannies with hammers
you're fucked jannies. we're coming for you

>>55337731
>mobile browsing
jesus how pleb of you
not even clever enough for clover

in addition to silver gold and platinum, i am also getting my hands on pure tin (i like to sand cast stuff for fun anyway)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1100130962/pure-tin-four-pounds-total-999-pure-hand?click_key=d57b7a5b865c76010fdeb57a0daaf9dc43137448%3A1100130962&click_sum=60f59ce2&ref=hp_rv-1&frs=1

so far this is the cheapest i have seen for pure tin. the seller seems to run out and restock periodically so i snag them when i can

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1670106824559697920

fuck kikes btw

>>55337787
Because some of us actually go outside.

Sell your silver and gold, before you get old. Sell your silver and gold, you'll be richer I'm told.

>>55338038
Listen kid, you're out of your mind. I went on /vr/ and it's all new-fangled games.

Anyone here have any spanish gold? Is it worth buying? Also, cheapest site for gold?

>>55337825
No racism please

>>55337707
>>55337731
I sometimes get that, but the need and difficulty DO rise proportionally to how upset I've made the jannies lately... I'm also a paranoid cheapskate, but I can see the justification for a pass

>>55338255
Sick ring! You the origional 'stack marks, anon'? This picture format has almost become the template

>>55338119
Bump. .also WHY CANT OUR MONEY LOOK LIKE THIS ANYMORE

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Czechoslovakia-20-Korun-1949-UNC-P-70b-II-Emission-Banknote-NOT-Perforated-/125713123091?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p4429486.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

>>55335663
I disagree, as Mexico is hopping onboard, a country with massive silver mines. Also because of this the United States has started attacking their tourism front via the media in retaliation and to get them to cancel, but I think Mexico has had it with the current world order and wants to rise up.

>>55337535
it will only end when i am permabanned or when our pms have won us all a harem of 18yo korean girls.

keep on stacking, /pmg/. we are going to make it beyond our wildest dreams.

>>55338095
>Galaga
I remember playing that on my Game Boy

>>55338337
>ebay trackers
oof

>>55338444
Nice trips

Since no one has said they are baking I will get a new thread soon since we're at the bump limit

new
>>55338790
>>55338790
>>55338790

>>55338744
What is an ebay tracker?

>>55338849
the second half of that url contains data that can track who sent it

>>55338119
The new spanish Toro looks fantastic. If I didn't get it on sale I would have still bought it. Premiums don't scare me if I like the coin. Sorry I don't have a good pic of it to share, very hard to get a good picture of it that captures every feature.