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2018 was comfy

this is hell, i was already tired last year, this year i have no words for the level of apathy that i feel

Worse. No one trusts crypto anymore unless they're already holding it.
Everyone thinks it's a scam.
Even that guy.

>>55318470
worse. people actually gave a shit about the fundamentals in before. now everyone just wants to gamble on shitcoins.

>>55318470
exactly the same

>>55318470
Have you ever been under arrest? This bear is like being under arrest by the stock market.

>>55318470
way way worse. 2018 was slow but there was hope. now there is no hope left.

>>55318470
>>55318553

>>55318470
2023 is worse because in 2019 the cycle actually bottomed and stayed shitty while everyone knew the 2020 money printer would happen.
this time around the people who make the market have steadily bled new liquidity with well shilled mini narrative cycles because hyperinflation isn't as sure a bet, and a lot of liquidity shifted to the stonks echo bubble.

>>55318470
Much worse. Incomparably worse. The older bear markets had the benefit of being in a space where most projects had the pretense of trying to improve something in earnest. So much of that money moved to literal shitcoins with zero utility in the last bullrun. Now there’s legit SEC cases against exchanges and the economy is in a much worse situation. The entire world hates crypto and no one has any money to ape into anything.
The fact that I didn’t make it last cycle because I roundtripped LINK is started to fucking destroy my mental health. Diversifying into anything else would have made me a multimillionaire at the top and I’d still be a millionaire today. By the time LINK gets its shit together AI will be so advanced that better solutions will exist. Crypto itself is probably fucked after 2025. I’m selling everything at some point between now and then and I pray I make enough to live another 20 years

>>55318470
wayyyyyy worse as the economy will be in the shitter for another 1.5 years

BTC didn't dump as much as in 2018, but I'd say that overall this bear market is definitely worse, especially for altcoiners.

Last bear market most people only lost unrealized gains. In this bear market a LOT of people lost their crypto in the various scams that we had since early 2022 (FTX, Celsius, Bancor, several "hacks" and "exploits").

>>55319065
You are me. We are sad. Here’s a virtual hug for my doppelgänger.

>>55318969
ouch

>>55318470
Way way worse. 2018 was simply a long term hold. This bear feels like everything including stables could rug at any moment ontop of endless regulatory fud and macroeconomic uncertainty coupled with tradfi bank failures

>>55318553
this
>>55318485
>>55318511
newfags
>>55318483
you just feel different cause you have more money in now

I will say that biz was better in 2018
if biz were the same level now we would be all discussing Kaspa in depth and how DagKnight works, what fud is valid, why there is a bible verse in the genesis block, schizo stuff etc
instead it's just some halfhearted circlejerking by oldfags and people who don't have a clue, and most other threads still caught up on old shitcoins

>>55318470
for me it's worse.
2018/19 were very comfy years for me. I knew I fucked up the last run because I wasn't smart enough but now that I learned my lesson i could accumulate while everyone else fucked off. The media attention was non existant and i liked that. I had good times on biz. I miss that era. Now I have six figures in crypto but expecxt to never make it because the future looks fucking bleak to me.

>>55318553
This.

>>55318969
d-delete that

It’s worse but it’s been time for a crypto purge. This space has objectively gotten worse since 2018/2019. Fuck all the grifters and scammers that have dragged this market down. They all gotta burn before we bounce back

>>55318969
Not selling & dgaf

>>55319065
>legit
>sec
>anon, (you)...

>>55318470
I've been in crypto since 2013. Every bear market and every bullrun tends to be the same. The only differences are the circumstances surrounding them (as in who is fucking with the markets).
>>55318485
>No one trusts crypto anymore unless they're already holding it.
This was ALWAYS the case. Reddit holier-than-thou faggots would bash crypto non-stop when it was 99$ each saying we were all absolute retards for investing in "such an obvious pyramid scheme."

>>55319348
The opposite. They
>are
the market (numberwise). Had not been for muh scammers we would never have moved beyond nerd hobbyists' conventions.

>>55318470
it was brutal as well
tether fud, china crypto ban fud
everybody cried "extended bear market"
newfags crying make me sick. we didn't even drop as much as in 2018, just the numbers are higher.

>>55318485
just what they want you to think. remember if they really wanted to dump on retail headlines like "crypto? next big move teetering on the brink?" would be on the cover of Forbes.

>>55319758
Still keeping my eyes open to some new ideas fags

hasn't bottomed yet

>tether fud, china crypto ban fud
china did ban crypto
tether did... hehe

>>55318470

You serious? What bear market?

>>55319574
It's a problem.
>No one trusts crypto anymore unless they're already holding it.
On a long enough timeline, no one will be buying.
Unless you, say, take up the American way and scam every new generation.
Doable, here we are.

inflation was what 2%? with rates around 3%? Only hope is student loan payment unpause > total collapse > 0% rates again

>>55318470
What bear market? oh you mean shitty ass crypto? lol,

>>55319065
This except ignore everything he wrote aside from the economy

>>55319933
Hi, anon. I keep getting banned. Can I profit from this? If I can't profit from this, how can I stop getting banned?

>>55318598
You can never be too sure Newfag,some project are getting better even In the bearish season, like crypto payments got Kek horny with cashback and staking benefit don't be a sleepy ass jeet.

>>55319933
The economy improving doesn’t matter if the only investments that allow you to make it are random dogshit ponzis, might as well play the lotto

>>55318470
Better

>>55318470

You have no idea what's coming young one...

>>55319147
>kaspa
disregarded
kadena is superior

Nobody here knows what the fuck they're talking about. This bear is the most predictable and easy so far. If you can't see just how bullish shit is right now while everyone is demoralized, scared and done, then you are in the wrong game.

I got a job with an income capable of accumulating after the 2017-18 bull, so I didn't experience the drop aside from watching on the sidelines.
I then accumulated 200 ETH and some other stuff from late 2018-2020 and held until selling 2/3 in summer 2021.

It was MOSTLY comfy, although you still needed the mindset to hold through dumb stuff like the covid crash to $80 ethereum, which I watched live. Holding through shit like that is easy for me

I would say this bear is worse for reasons like
* length of bear
* In 2020, the money printer turning on was obvious, so going all-in on assets was an easy choice. The economy and everything macro seem way shittier now.
* I have the advantage of retrospect. the 2018 bear ended. by late 2019 there was already upside. When the fuck are we going to pump again?
* As >>55319140 mentions, the space now has a "rug at any moment" feel to it.

My pro tip (and I took my own advice) is to sell more than enough to live an enjoyable life through a bear mearket. Part of what has made the time fly is how many filipinas I've coomed in raw since they opened the border.

>>55320156
>everyone is demoralized, scared and done
let's all add the normie sentiment check.
I'd say we are at the stage where if you mention anything like crypto/blockchain in a room of 20 people, you'll get 15 haters, 4 indifferent, and 1 person that will signal you to chat for a 1-1 later about how they're accumulating.
which coins are you scooping up anon?

I still hold 50 ETH
11k LINK as of yesterday
I should have dumped my UNI, but I have like 2400 of it lol

>>55318470
Feels very very similar to me. Don’t let the fud get to you OP.

>>55318470
We are not even peak bear yet

>>55318470
people here used to have hair.

>>55320482
>>55320482
retard lmao
you're about to really get wiped out

>>55320201
I agree with this. Overall it seems harder to say what will happen to me. In addition, you had much better projects to discuss and it felt more exciting. There was this feeling of anticipation and exploration brewing. New projects to discuss which would then moon during the bull. As of now, it feels more cumbersome. Nothing new since then, really. Not fun and just like an overdue end credits scene. The focus on people on this board ever since the GME invasion is completely speculative and not about the projects in themselves.
Last bear market introduced exciting stuff like AMPL and DEX’s. This has nothing so far.

>>55318470
Ignore the noise and earn with every opportunity around you. The cycle is always the same with different stories. I'm not bothered ATM as I'm earning passively on AstraDao through staking and trading indices.

Worse, theres 10x more scammers and jeets this time around.

>>55320541
>In addition, you had much better projects to discuss and it felt more exciting.
I forgot about this aspect.
I was overall learning a lot more about blockchain technology.
The space was more nascent and I was doing daily reading of some form.

>>55319147
>bible verse in the genesis block
Sauce?

>>55320709
This board really needs flags like /pol/

>>55319085
It’s just more time to accumulate moron. Bull run will start January 2025 as Desantis or Trump take office

>>55319194
Don’t give up anon. All you need is a simple 10x. Most of us do. This six figure hell sucks but it’ll be worth the wait

>>55320201
>When the fuck are we going to pump again?
First the yid curve needs to uninvert. Then the actual recession needs to begin, and then we can pump, right in the middle of it. By that point there should be bullish news about Chinese new crypto paradise in Honk Honk or something like that. I assume that's late 2024 or early 2025, if the war ends by that point that would be just perfect.

It is not the same whoever says that is dumb

We had tons more alts that actually went parabolic during the last bear market

Alts are fucking dead this bear market

Alt season isn’t even a thing anymore

>>55318470
Much worse, because crypto isn't going up while the S&P is mooning

>>55321178
I think its that btc front ran the market. Now its going down guess where ndq is heading.

>>55318470
This one seems to have lasted longer than that of 2019 and has fucked the portfolio of many. I'm not sure if it will end now so I'll keep farming through SpoolFi for now.

>>55318470
What bear market?

>>55320201
>coomed in raw
>cum ID
Kekked

>>55319085
>>55321099
this, but if we get another dem in its over
so thats the gamble here as far as I see it

It's worse even tho i lost more % wise in 2018 (Lost literally 99% kek)

>>55318483

>2018 was comfy

LARP or you only had like 2k in crypto

2018 was worse than 9/11

this one is far better
remember that this is a link board so many have rosy memories of 2018/19
but this one is far, far better
it's obvious that blockchain will be adopted now, that there will be another bull soon
sure there's some regulatory attention but that's a good thing, not bad..
first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you etc etc
a lot more infra has been built, there are nice airdrops everywhere, arb right at the bottom of the bear was very nice for example

>>55318470
>>55318483
>>55318485
>>55318511
>>55318597
>>55318598
Fucking newfags.
Both this bear market and 2018 are nothing compared to the one back in 2015.
When Mt Gox collapsed, literally everyone thought bitcoin and crypto were completely dead.
If you're not buying hand over fist right now, you're literally a fucking retard.
I hope you newfags enjoy committing sudoku when bitcoin moons to over 100k during the next bullrun.

I've been here since 2020 so I can speak on experience when I say this is the worst of them all

seems alot better to me.
I would guess inflation kind of helped prop things up.
the news is arguably much worse though.
so it makes sense there are alot of mixed opinions.
it's not perfect, but it's been better.

This bear market was down only for a year but still not nearly as bad as 2019. Crypto was effectively DEAD nobody believes that shit now. Everybody thinks they are guaranteed a 5x if they just hodl. That is why we are going lower

2018-2019 was a true crypto winter. 2022-2023 is not because of defi. That is a double edged sword though. Some got lucky with stuff like tsuka, cult, pepe, 0x0, and others, but many lost a lot on new launches thereby exacerbating the bear market for that individual. 2018 was worse in terms of % drop for btc and eth, and many alts went to zero and never came back. 2022 was worse in terms of overall fud, market sentiment and defi collapse. Now: if you are newer to crypto here is what matters: BUY NEW ALTS FROM 2022 OR LATER. MOST 2017-2021 alts are done forever.
pic unrelated

>>55321178
The shit & piss is being propped up by the latest epic meme, AI stocks some which are mooning despite not even having a product yet

>>55321971
also: 2022 felt a lot worse for a lot of us because BTC did not hit a blow off top like we all wanted and a lot of us really did expect 100k+. On top of that the sentiment for some of us was that we had been through two BTC cycles and still didnt make millions, that stung.

>>55318470
its actually better if you're just holding. Less volatility but its dragging on for longer.

>>55321999
>reddit post
wasted

>>55319055
In early 2023 I was saying stocks would have a 2019 tier echo bubble, its lining up perfectly. Markets are becoming more similar, makes sense for stocks to start doing more familiar crypto patterns and vice versa.

>>55318470
We're no longer in a bear market you retarded newfaggot
2019 is the cyclic analog to now

>>55319065
The fact that I didn’t make it last cycle because I roundtripped LINK is started to fucking destroy my mental health. Diversifying into anything else would have made me a multimillionaire at the top and I’d still be a millionaire today.
This is what destroyed me too, but I’m going to give crypto one last shot. 2018/19 biz was so comfy, quiet calm but very hopefully. The threads were intense but amicable, the culture felt very concrete. Link seemed like it would be a big thing, and it was until it peaked against eth then end of 2022 brought out all the scammers when btc broke ath.
Elon and doge cannot be forgotten, that man altered the course of crypto forever.

>>55318470
this is only the beginning. macro economy dumbass. banking runs retard. it will happen and when it does crypto goes to the shitter and it will be awsome. f i hate cryptoniggers!

2019 was comfy because I held LINK, I managed to sell some at top
2023 is also comfy because I'm buying more LINK for cheap

>>55322205
based LinkCHAD

>>55318485
I'm gon be so rich

>>55319147
>tfw kaspa has already been eclipsed technically
Sure it will hit a few bil mc but make sure you take profits on the way

The sad thing is this bear is the worst because we never got our board back

The newfags, the redditors and the indians never fucking left.

Anything good shilled gets denounced straight away
I don't even bother sharing anything here, pearls before swine etc

>>55322611
Kaspa was shilled all last year and Radiant was literally shilled in early March right before it pumped

>>55318483
2018 was one of the worst years

>>55319147
>>55320147
>>55322611
>>55322884
RXD completely mogs kaspa

>>55322949
Sorry bro but it’s dead along with Nexa. They each had one good pump but nobody’s buying either anymore.

>>55320129
The most gigantic melt up in history?

This bear market is gay and fake

>>55318470
If you have been holding bitcoin this bear has been a little easier
If you have been holding chainlink, like me. this is worse, by far.

>>55319065
LINK went from a few cents to $60 fucking dollars. If you sold anywhere close to the top you'd have made it.
You held all the way down like a retard.

>>55322205
Kek. you just losing your money to a failed coin

>>55322239
Not if you're hodling the wrong coins newfag.

>>55323063
Based. Still wonder why people still sleeping on RAIL, FIRO and other ZKP privacy focused coins.

>>55319911

>>55321070
Seconded.

You can spot a newfag by a how much they downplay people hating crypto in 2019. Bitcoin was a joke. Everyone laughed about it and the retards who were into it. Fucking Family Guy had a brief gag where Peter, the retard, wanted to put his money in Bitcoin. Crypto was infamous and embarassing.

In many ways it still is, but much less so, especially with big institutions outspokenly positive about BTC. People are less surprised by someone investing in BTC. If the FTX scandal happened in 2018, BTC would've gone to $1k, no doubt. The fact it held $15k this cycle should speak to the public's acceptance of crypto. It's made for an easier bear market, but it'll make for a worse bull. BTC won't even double its previous ATH this cycle.

Tl;dr: better, but consequently worse in the long run

>>55318470
Price wise it’s not as bad, but it is tremendously gayer to a degree that I would’ve never believed back then

>>55323017
I ain't fading LINK because there is still potential. I am also not going all into it. There is still CYMI, ID, and ACOIN.

>>55319094
>Celsius
I also loss a big ass in that ugly event
>>55320230
>I still hold 50 ETH
I do too, but not as big as yours, i hold Solana, sylo and Kava too
>>55321999
>its actually better if you're just holding
1btc is still 1 BTC, except you use emergency fund

>>55319348
>You are me. We are sad. Here’s a virtual hug for my doppelgänger.
You are who I am. We are depressed. I'm sending a virtual hug to my doppelgänger. Before the market wakes up, I keep an eye on the Peaq DePIN solution, as there is a lot of integration going on, as well as DAG, which is working on national grade security with the US DoD.

>>55318470
Much better. 2019 was airdrops all the time. Uni was cool but everything else was shit
At least full retard coins are going off right now

I wasn’t around in 2018, but from what I hear from those that were around in 2018, it was worse then. The final capitulation really tested peoples conviction in the space apparently. Question for those that were around, did the previous bear market provide shitcoin rallies the way Pepe did? Also, how many people believed a bullrun was coming in just a couple of years the way many believe currently?

>>55318470
2019 I was down nearly 150k. I stopped looking at charts. Then 2020 came and I flipped. So maybe maybe 2024 flips this shit and gets a lit 2025

>>55321070
>>55323147
Go back, flags ruin anonymity

>>55323677
This

>>55318470
it's so much worse and i've been in it since late 2012. back then you were only into it because you were either buying drugs or believed in the fundamentals. after mt gox it was bad but it felt more like a pause than anything and still would lead to something down the line that would shine and have valid use cases. 2018 was fun but also cringey, 2020 and on made it impossible to talk about crypto without being barraged by memes and doge. this is either the long crash we need to restart crypto as majority of shitcoins are killed or it's the one that will kill crypto in regards to any sort of profitability and show up years later as in-home ledgers made by banks and gov't for quicker basics and nothing else.

>>55322205
kek, you just put your money in Deadpool. I'll go with DePIN like KREST, SIA since it employs incentives to scale decentralized infrastructure.

>>55323620
I think there were alts like LINK that did well so there was this sense that holding good alts would be a good strategy during the bear. A ton of shitcoins carries over to this bull run so it has become much more speculative. Basically a bunch of people making a deal to pump an obvious meme shitcoin just because and not for its fundamentals? That I don’t remember happening.

>>55323776
*carried over to this bear market

Oldfagerino here.

Bought my first coins at around $100 each.

I made about a 500% profit in 2021 and sold all of my crypto in November 2021.

I still haven't bought any more.

Things aren't that bad yet and people still have hope, so that tells you we aren't at the bottom. I also have contacts in the contract verification and testing space that still have work, so the industry work hasn't completely dried up yet. I'll probably buy into Solana starting next year once this whole thing has blown over.

You need to remember it's just a fucking cycle. It gets omegahyped beyond what is reasonably possible. That's when you dump.

You then wait until approximately everyone forgets about it approximately 2 years later and there is no work in the space, that is when you buy in again (into the good stuff, ethereum, solana etc, no meme shit, that comes later). We've only had about 18 months of pain so far. So probably 6 months to go.

>>55323828
>being proud of a 500% profit in the crypto market
>still haven't bought more
Good god that's depressing

>>55318470
this is worse
2019 felt more unpredictable, BTC had done a 5x off the bottom, alts did more
so even the subtle dumping the entire year wasn't that bad
this just feels both brutal and boring at the same time
regulatory FUD is also way worse this cycle.

>>55318470
Better i would say since now we are used to it.
>>55319147
biz in 2019 was constant chainlink shilling. And i mean so bad like you had to filter chainlink posts

>>55323869
Everything you described is more bullish than before. Glow ops have increased because memecoins are making more people rich.

Most of you don’t deserve crypto and should invest in stocks

>>55323860
In the end it's only one cycle. I've done better in others, and worse in others. The market is just a series of cycles and you'll do pretty will if you can string a few 500% wins together. It's better to do this than risk being a hero or zero every single time.

If you +500% 3 times you've made 216x and you're done.

Where does one find new coins that are just getting started to invest in? any sites, discord, etc, would be appreciated

>>55323900
Alright you btfo me, well done.

>>55323828

>Larping as oldfag so you can shill Solana Scam multiple times

Kys dumb nigger

>>55323936
I just noticed that he said solana

>>55321697
>literally everyone thought
meaning yourself and another 100 tech autists who knew what BTC was?
touch grass

>>55323927
You can try tokenmetrics, it gives nice evaluation on various tokens, i won't even advice you listen to those YouTubers, they're just there to tell us what they like, not saying they're all bad thou

>>55318470
This one is taking longer than that of 2019 already. We should be expecting the next bull in 2024. I'll keep on DCA into NXRA, AUDIO, and CTSI.

>>55323880
>biz in 2019 was constant chainlink shilling. And i mean so bad like you had to filter chainlink posts
It hasn't stop thou, and i made good gains on it in 2021
>>55322239
Prob you're holding a solid token

>>55321697
What can crypto buy me right now that fiat or literal boomer rocks can't. Oh, that's right - nothing. Crypto is a government scam. I got out at the top and now I'm freely retired. If you still hold crypto you will be hurting really bad once the fed (a private bank) golden parachutes away from the markets and you are left holding nothing.

>>55324297
>solana

>>55321697
>buying hand over fist
Nibba if you're in the US, you'll understand they're cutting off all fiat offramps...coming to a Europe near you as well. Crypto headwinds, especially for normies, is enormous.
If you're STILL one of those villagers that are 'in it for the tech' you're terminally lost and beyond redemption.
NOTHING will pop crypto now unless there's free money/stimulus...NOTHING. So why you're buying now, I'll never know, because any sound trader will buy ON THE WAY UP, not 'picking bottoms'. And people are now feeding the stock markets, so utilize that tail wind to make money.
Do us all a favor and watch out for electrical lines, because I see videos of your fellow villagers getting fried all the time.

>>55322239
It's possible if you're holding a good gem like holoride, whose product is making buzz in Germany and Austria

>>55324501
>solana

>>55322239
It's possible if you're holding a good gem like holoride, whose product is making buzz in Germany and Austria

>>55318511
Yep. This isn't 2014/15 or 1973 this 1929

>>55318470
jezus christ i love posts like this, they just keep affirming how utterly retarded and out of the loop people are meaning nothing is priced in yet

> sure anon 2023 will just be like 2019, maybe even a bit better :) i mean nothing happened the past 3 years on geopolitical levels and economical levels that could possibly... you know what never mind

>>55318470
As someone all in LINK it is far worse. Good news after good news and the price just keeps dumping. I feel like an insane person, and I gave up my chance - maybe my ONLY chance - at enough wealth to retire early and escape waging.

I’m fucking miserable. 2019 was EASY. I just happily accumulated.

>>55318470
I think its worse. Crypto exchanges used to get blown out by hacks now its regulators. I saw coins dieing. But not companies applying for bankruptcies.
I wasnt around with MT Gox but I can imagine that was even worse

>>55324344
Thanks anon. I agree.

>>55325321
>I saw coins dieing.
So what happens when they all die? Isn't it better to continue spending our remaining crypto via CryptMi for rewards

>>55318470
Fucking worse pajeet. This is why I'm actively strategizing and buying dip of NXRA so I can retire when

>>55326697
What’s with all the NXRA shills recently? Last cycle alt that got exploited and will continue to bleed

>>55323882
Memecoins aren't everyone's cup of tea. Some folks out there are just looking to prey on those who think otherwise and cash out their liquidity. It's smarter to invest in projects that bring real-world applications to the table, like Peaq and Krest. The DePIN narrative could very well be the next big thing. Keep your eyes peeled.

>>55318470
Worse for many reasons. First the bull market sucked because many alts never pumped as much as expected, instead shit like SHIB did. Bitcoin only went 3x the old ATH. This bear feels long and boring. There were more interesting pumps to play with even in 2018/19. Things feel more dead than ever.

>>55318483
>>55318598
>>55319094
>>55319140
>>55319147
>>55319674
>>55321624
>>55321697
>>55322918
>>55323620
>>55323731
OP asked about 2023 vs 2019, not 2023 vs 2018. Are you all shitskin thirdworlders who don't understand the difference between the digits 8 and 9?

>>55318470
Worse. There is no hope this time.

>>55318470
i didnt care in 2018 because i didnt check the charts constantly
now i check the charts and come here to see bull and bear cartoons, it gets tiresome

>2019
>oldfag

This is rose garden
2019 was when crypto Twitter was silenced or moved onto stonks,
eth was double digit shitcoins, stock boomers were laughing at us

>>55328370
>us
kys new fag

>>55318470
It was worse in 2019 because even in this bear, there are means of making passive income which has kept most users afloat.

>>55320380
SEC is trying so hard to get us sell our bags but that ain't happening. My moon bag on AstraDao and Azero is giving me some sick returns for staking the tokens. The FEDs should fud as much as they want, It's not going to affect my psychology.

>>55321099
This is a fact. Having this at the back of my mind, I'm slurping up QANX, CTSI, and OCEAN as I'm long-term bullish on Security and Data based blockchain tokens.

>>55320230
I'm holding ETH, BTC, LINK, SOL, ICP and JASMY.
I'm at around 400K during this dip. Some cash on side for dips. Ready to usher in the biggest crypto bull ever. IMO btc will give up more dominance this time. BTW was just browsing other threads. First few responses are either fud or sincerely scared anons kek, I love it.

>>55329105
Who's this faggot that thinks he can fool everyone that he has been making passive income?

>>55329679
You can get your answers from looking at the "My little Spool Yield is Magic" smart vault on SpoolFi. You don't need to tell everyone you're and ignorant dumbass all the time.

>>55329799
Kill yourself subhuman currynigger. No one is buying your shitty coins.

>>55329899
No one is even asking you to buy a coin. Lol.
You can curse out your chance of financial liberation; go on.

>>55330015
>currynigger noises intensify

>>55318470
This one sucks because the bull market barely went anywhere unless you owned that particular L1 flavor the month. Most alts barely moved this bull run.

>>55318470
Not as bad as early 2020.

>The charts don’t lie.

>>55318470
Funny thing is the bull market started and I’ve been up for a week

You kinda missed the signal, sec suing and binance issues were the final cut down, see you in the 2024 chop year

>>55321989
The blowoff top happened in May 2021 but no one accepts that because sbf artificially pumped up the market in the second half of the year to pump solana

>>55324297
Probably mentioning a dead af for you to get rekt too. Have long dropped Solana after discovering CryptMi and Trias. Better gamble PEPE than hold Sol.

>>55330221
Sbf? It was the entire jewish asian gang that was pissed they didn't managed to get out in time and came in late 2020 respective in February 2021. All the shit that happens since then is ironing out those scammers fuck ups and it might kill crypto for good this time because of just scamming some nerds like the years before institutional investors got scammed by cheap sales pitches about the future and lost their clients pension funds

>>55328009
I thought I read in another thread you got rid of all the scammers

>>55320787
How old are you? How much do you need to live a year

I’ve been on biz since 2017 so this is my third bear market experience. There’s two reasons why this one is particularly shitty. Firstly, in the most recent bull market we saw so many blatantly shitty meme coins with absolutely 0 utility skyrocket in value. While this was great for people looking to make a quick buck, it really damaged the credibility of cryptocurrency being a serious investment. Secondly, the outlook of the economy as a whole this time around is a lot worse than it was before. The looming recession could extend this bear market for a long ass time.

>>55318969

>>55324344
Tokenmetrics is a useless scam by a useless scammer

>>55318470
It was brutal as well tether fud, ban in some cases, fud everybody cried but yet new innovative ideas still coming and those idea will hit the space once market picks up check DePINs spearheaded by Iotex and Peaqnetwork

>>55328009
get a gf you bitter little pos

>>55323927
Stuffs always going down in Polkadot, anon. Take peaq, for example. It's the real deal powering the Web3 Economy of Things on this wild playground.

It's not dumping newrly enough.

>>55321598
>get another dem in
After Biden's tranny part on the white house law? Not happening

>>55324511
>they're cutting off all fiat offramps
Not happening and if it does, crypto becomes more valuable because it is harder to access.

Maybe I was insulated as a young naive student, but 2018 was comfy.

Right now the entire world seems to be on fire in some way. It's not a normal timeline when Russia moves large nukes around casually.

The kind of financial destruction we've seen from the collapse of luna and the contagion afterwards is measurably larger than any other time in crypto. More people now are utterly distraught after this market than before, and in a more impactful way (way more money was printed than ever before in history, so more money per crypto person)

We also have inflation for the first time in 40 years or so

Just a brutal time. I managed to survive inshallah, but not without lessons

>>55318470
Last dump is here anon. Go bag all these coins
ORE, VRA, INJ, METIS and MPL.

>>55319890
AI, LSD and DID are still what you should be looking at.

>>55321122
ORE can obviously pull a 20x from it currect sub 4M mc. Dummies' won't listen to me.

>>55330470
>How old are you? How much do you need to live a year
I'm 30. I kept my $250k/year job even after making $800k last bull run, so I don't really budget my expenses in Philippines at all.
Would it really be that useful for *you* to know *my* monthly expenses? That's a honest question. If I know what you're trying to solve, I'll try to help.

If I didn't do international trips, I'd probably be sitting at:
$700 rent + $70 electric+ $10 parking. You could pretty easily go to a different city and pay half as much though.
can eat out for $5/meal if you don't eat total street shit, but I'll spend up to $18 for what I consider a nicer lunch.
can hire a live in helper to do basically everything including have sex for ~$180
High end gym $100/month
Phone can probably be good to go for $30/month
philippines dating app $30/month
motorcycle gas/taxis
$16/month for laundry
I forget what else I spent $ on. I'm bigger on fashion and shopping these days tho

TLDR: My lifestyle including travel, flying girls around, eating out etc is probably $60k/year, but I could bring that down to like $24k if I really had to. I just spent the last month in Japan while my condo in philippines sat empty.

>>55328370
and now ETH has relived itself to be a quadruple digit shitcoin, when someone paid 1500 to do a swap.