/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55294498
First for "you should buy only silver!!" is a jewish psyop.

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>>55292185

Zamn janny!

Looking forward to all my beautiful frens stacking ever higher

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This is a glowie fud faggot general.
>Has Satanic pyramid in OP pic
>Horned devil animal
>Gold instead of Silver
>Has FUD in first reply

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>>55294745
i'm gonna post here now cuz calling triforce a satanic pyramid is retarded

>>55294788
Agreed.

>>55294745
How tf is triforce satanic? You thread splitters are ruining /pmg/

>>55294745
Me thinks you’re the glowie.

Head over to the real general, without FUD or any bullshit in the OP: >>55294573

this is the real /pmg/

I HAVE A GREAT IDEA THIS THREAD IS pgg PRECIOUS GOLD GENERAL

>>55294972
why do you think there is a glownigger monitoring these threads?

all hail the true /pmg/

>>55295106
>THIS THREAD IS pgg PRECIOUS GOLD GENERAL
Exactly, the kike who made this thread fears silver. That's why he didn't include even a single silver coin in the image.
Note how immediately after he posted this thread, he samefagged and posted this FUD: >>55294539

Real thread featuring silver here, without anti-silver FUD: >>55294573

>>55295113
For one thing anytime someone mentions buying pm on credit they get banned and their posts deleted pertaining to that discussion. Someone is definitely monitoring these threads. Someone definitely wants these threads gone.

>>55295160
normally i like silver in the OP better
but that other thread is sus as fuck

Found this in my grandmothers house (she past away) think she bought quite a few and stashed them away

>>55295078
Fuck off!
>>55295160
Imagine being this triggered by gold!
LMAO at your life!

>>55295196
Nice!
I also really like it's smaller daddy.

>>55295196
damn thats an awesome find
my grandfather gave me these

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>>55295240
I'm pretty sure its real. Heres the back

>>55295240
I find american coinage so ironic.
>Almost kill all Indians, but hey, let's put them on our coins forever!
That's like if Germany always had jews on their coins.
And then there's this whole
>pluribus unum
stuff. Half of the country hates the pluribus part and would rather be unum, and the other loves the pluribus but thinks that demanding them to become unum is halal.
Really boggles my mind.

>>55295350
you lost, mate
surrender

>>55294745
This is so fucking cringe

>>55295350
Quit it with the Christlarp spam thread you fucking retard the jannies are already on our back and we don't want another autosage incident due to your autism attack

>>55294958
They clearly watched too many Angry Video Game Nerd videos.

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>>55295285
You can check it pretty easily if you have some calipers and a precision scale.

>>55295562
autism attack
repeat: we have a full blown autism attack

>>55295562

Stop it you moron

German junk pre ww1 is mogging everything, i need it!

>>55295165
can't see the backend but i assume even if we get the different ids, each of our posts are probably linked back to a unique identifier they can see. could be just certain people they are upset with and continue to fuck with

>>55295575
Notice how his threads reuse the same exact Jesus bullion thumbnails every time and has never contributed a picture of his own. Only comes in here to post his Christ threads and has a fit when no one wants to use them (kek)

He probably has little to no stack of his own, post gold to make him seethe

>>55295611
i just don't like how expensive they are if you want nice ones. i'll have one of each eventually

>>55295623
that has to be literally 60% or more of the pictures in these threads. reposting the same image every thread

>>55295618
That's silly considering most posts that started getting people in trouble had nothing to do with what the ban was for. All it means is tha it's biased behavior.

>>55295645
I'm all for reusing other anons' pictures but you can always tell it's him, without fail, because he has nothing to post except the two or three thumbnails of commercially sold Jesus bullion. I wouldn't be taking the piss half as hard if he at least had one in his possession. But so far it's all been LARP.

>>55295628
yeah, that sucks.. I can't justify buying one atm at those prices.
Is there any neat looking old silber coins left at decent prices?

>>55295628
Looks like 90% silver, how much are they going for?

Guys I'm not normally one to pay premiums, but I always get (decent) prices on junk and got some alternative currency (florin, shillings, half crowns) to add to the stack for an historic perspective and to show my children. After I fill up this peace dollar tube, it's probably gonna be some weiners or silver Krugs for the stack. What are you guys currently stacking?

>>55295724
Around 25-30 bux it seems? That's quite a stretch for 10g of fine silver content..

>>55294498
This is the FIFTH /pmg/ made in the last hour. Please stop. And Jannies, do your job please -- delete this thread. This fag just keeps spamming these generals.

>>55294745
damn I really didn't realize how many are here
see: (>>55294788 >>55294958 >>55294972 >>55295372 )
or they are getting nervous
I haven't been in PMG much lately. just slow with work so i figured id stop by
seems the collective consciousness brought me here at this time for a reason.

She was showing off her GOLDEN hair for all to see. I couldn't resist the temptation. I approached her with a COPPER ingot in my hand. "I love you" she replied. In her PLATINUM necklace, I could see my reflection. Like water, it glistened in the sun, 1,000 dancing fireflies at my fingertips.

Never be afraid to approach the love of your life. There is always a SILVER lining in the clouds.

>>55295692
exactly, like they're being targeted for another reason other than what they're posting. like the hand stack guy who keeps getting posts deleted. i've seen a bunch of those and none of them look like they broke any rules.

>>55294498
FRESH ARRIVAL

>>55295767
>>55295778
Post stack groid

>>55294745
>another attempt to divide and conquer /pmg/
you were the same anon that was causing problems a few weeks ago when our pastebin was "mysteriously" changed to include a no-no word and the OP image was the same one you just used for your now failed thread splitting bake

>>/biz/thread/55147990 (31 May, with poisoned link)

>>/biz/thread/55294573 (Today)

>>55295814

Nice.

>>55295742
>What are you guys currently stacking?
I'm so happy with my last purchase i can't help but post it for the second time. Just ordered a cheap metal saw on amazon to free those 6 spanish silver dollars + 1 french ecu once the mailman show up.

>>55295880
Have you worked out how you're going to unbend them?

>>55295880

Ashtray.

>>55295763
Yeah that seems like too much. You can get one of these with over twice as much silver for similar price.

>>55295814
nice. i wanted to pick that one up but went with a couple tributes.

>>55295889
Couldn't find much results on jewtube. That said, one jeweler in the comment section of a vid advised the use of a hide hammer against a leather-covered wood plank. The leather being softer than silver, it wont flatten the markings. Another one said to leave the coin in the oven at 200°C for 20min before working on coins to soften them a bit.

Sounds like decent advices, but i'm still a bit worried, especially since i've zero dexterity. I'm the kind of guy who break everything he touches.

Is this a rich mans game how do people afford this

>>55295989
Apart from uncushioned hammer blows I doubt you could screw it up more than it already is, numismatically speaking.

>>55295989
How about if you heat the coins in oven, and put heavy weight on top of wood/leather instead of hammering it?

>>55296052
I definitely put other aspects of my life on hold in order to acquire my safety net. I also work 2 jobs 7 days a week in order to acquire as many assets/moonshots/income securities as I can. I won't stop until I wagmi and my financial health improved every two weeks.

>>55296055
I would still suggest putting pressure on it while superheated and malleable instead of striking it with a hammer

>>55294745
kys christcuck

>>55296055
True, but beside the fact they are heavily bent, their condition seems alright no? In the sold listing section of ebay, spanish dollars with a surface much more worn are selling for well over a hundo. Even with big holes in them. Pic rel are the last sold 8 reales.

>>55295880
That is really cool, but also worth it to dismantle and make a part of the stack. The coins are so cool to think about, where they've been over their time. To think that most surviving/unmelted coins were part of someone else's stack.
>>55295989
Not sure whether I'd cut first or unbend the mass. Damn those are gorgeous coins; some gems waiting to be cut free.

>Reminder that you will own silver and be happy.
>Revenge will be yours while you buy sex slave woman, and houses with your silver during hyperinflation.
>You will feel euphoric as your revenge comes to its rightful conclusion and you get to see the normies forced to eat the bugs plus live in pods.
>/pmg/ makes it while the normies suffer.

>>55296104
You gave me an idea. What about putting the coins between 2 planks of leather-covered wood, then hammer the plank on the top?
This way i wont risk giving a bad strike.

>>55296207
At this point you should hydraulic press them, heated, between leather on steel.

>>55296205
dude... chillax already.

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Hey oxoxo!
Fondled your stack today bros?
All it well with me, how about you guys?
By the way I feel like something is... "off" ...with this thread... You guys feel that?
plz consider tagging this post if you agree!

>>55296207
go ask >>>/diy/

>>55296189
>or unbend the mass
how would you do that? I don't wanna end up with a new hubcap for my car lol.
>but also worth it to dismantle and make a part of the stack
Definitely, i wanted pieces of 8 in my collection for a long time, colonial silver coins have such history and aura, but couldn't justify paying the huge premium. This deal was a gift sent by the providence!

>>55296207
My instinct is that slow pressure is safer, but I have no experience with metal working. You could also try to use one of those workshop vise grip things.

>>55296294
>something is... "off" ...with this thread... You guys feel that?
Indeed, there is a mass replying nigger itt and it makes me nervous and potentially violent.

thinking about buying ten 1/10 ounce gold brits from sdbullion.
i know spot would put it at 200/ozt but i like the little guys and dont think a sale like this will come around again any time soon.
i dont believe spot will ever be pre-2020 levels again.
thoughts?

I just want to let you guys know that I love Alice and I hate the Fed!

>buy silver for 20% above spot
>sell it for 20% below spot

epic investment

>>55296465

question for you guys, I know you guys might not like this, but lets say I obtain some gold somehow and I want to sell it for cash in person at a pawn shop (or any place around me that buys gold or etc). What is the process that goes down? They just weigh the gold/give an offer for me and if I accept I get cold hard cash? Or do I have to sign things and report for taxes? Thanks

>>55296465
Go promote schizo drugs somewhere else

>>55296448
I wouldn't buy any fractionals other than sovs or 20F, but if you can get them at a good price, maybe it's worth it. I guess the premiums can be recouped if you sell to a private individual (not dealer who buys only at spot).

>>55296465
C-cute!

>>55296538
if you have more then $10k then you have to fill out some forms for the (((IRS))) to track.
1st you should call around and figure how much you can get. of course factor gas into the total.
then you go to shop and yea, they'll weigh and check it.
you'll get more from a private sale and negotiate the price before hand, meet somewhere safe, and then hand over the money.
if you go to a pawnshop or we buy gold shop expect to get less than from a coin shop.


>>55296586
as you can see from this anon's post, prices change from whoever you're selling to and type of business.

>>55296538
Please don't sell your gold at a pawn shop or "we buy gold" place. They will scam you. Go to a coin/bullion store or seek a private transaction online. The other things you asked depends on the state and tax policies but I'm sure you will just get cash if it's a small business

>>55296294
So many anons tagged you! Congratulations.

>>55295767
Are you on drugs? There were only two, and this one was made first/properly announced.

>>55296465
I fucking hate painted silver so much

>>55295325
Many Americans, even at the time of the indian wars, had respect for the indians because they were fierce fighters. There was also some envy for their lifestyle. During early colonial days, European settlers splitting from the colonies to join the indians was common enough to be a problem. Also, just for the record, American indians were usually treated better than conquered people in most of the rest of the world in most of history. They weren't enslaved. They were given some land. Eventually they were given all the rights of citizens.

>>55296465
cute
i have the butterfly toast one

>>55294498
>>55295113
Yes. All racism and antisemitism must end NOW!

>>55296670
how could you not respect native americans? They were ultra conservative warrior types who respected the land and animals and didn't fucking pave over Gods creation to create some industrialized hellscape run by deep state military industrial complex and rigged monetary system.

>>55296696

>i have the butterfly

>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>where’s my samurai?

>i’m searching for a man
>all across j-pan
>just to find
>to find my samurai

>someone who is strong
>but still a little shy
>yes i need
>i need my samurai

>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky
>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky

>i’m searching in the woods
>and high upon the hills
>just to find
>to find my samurai

>someone who won’t regret
>to keep me in his net
>yes i need
>i need my samurai

>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky
>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky

>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>where’s my samurai?

>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>where’s my samurai?

>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky
>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky

>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky
>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky

>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>ai yai yai
>where’s my samurai?

>ai yai yai
>i’m your little b-tterfly
>green black and blue make the colours in the sky

>>55295767
There is literally only one /pmg/ thread on the board, learn to count. Someone tried to split /pmg/ earlier but that was not the fault of this OP who was first and did nothing wrong.

>>55296783
that's the guy IP switching to concern troll, do not entertain it

>>55296732
>didn't fucking pave over Gods creation to create some industrialized hellscape run by deep state military industrial complex and rigged monetary system.
you say that like it was ever an option for them.

>>55295742
>What are you guys currently stacking?
Things I like. I am mindful of premiums, but indulge in a few stupidly expensive coins/rounds, too.

>>55296875
1oz rhodium
Amazing collection. I admire the NH GB's too.

>>55296538
>>55296596
>if you have more then $10k then you have to fill out some forms for the (((IRS))) to track.
Having never sold so much, I will defer to an experienced seller, but there are a couple things in there that go counter to documentation.
1) Any interest the gov't has in your $10k+ transaction is if it involves *cash*. They're interested in what happens to printed fiat.
2) The form in question, Form 8300, is apparently filled out by the person receiving the cash (and you would expect that to be you, the seller). But the form itself seems interested only in the source being an individual, not a store. So you're not reporting the store as a source, and they're not reporting you as the recipient.
3) If you go deposit that $10k+ into your bank account, the bank might fill out the Form 8300 with your info.
4) If you think you can spread cash *purchases* out across several days, be warned that the buyer might report you r for suspicious transaction activity; specifically, avoiding the reporting:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x6k-GMUC_UU

>>55297081
>They're interested in what happens to printed fiat.
* and a few other forms of payment, listed in Line 32

>>55296972
ty.
To be fair, the Rh does not represent a substantial outlay - I bought waaay back when it was "just" $1k.
Yeajh - goldbacks make wonderful, rich backgrounds.

Lmao, they still don't give up with their scamdemic psyops. 2€ coin discretly put in circulation in the eurozone (this one is belgian).

These no chance that either of these are authentic, right?

>>55297318
ngl they look giga sus, especially the top left. But i don't own any so i can't tell for sure. I've heard chinks since 2022 are going all-in on faking old french gold & silver coins, especially the big ones like the 5 Francs (mostly Hercules, Napoleon 1/3,..). And apparently the quality is really decent. So beware fren!

It became so prevalent that french ebay coins' powersellers are putting "blank" auctions with descriptions on how to identify the fake ones. I came across few of thoses the past weeks. Maybe you should take a look, this coin surely is listed.

Fuck chinksects.

>>55296104
>>55296307
>>55296586
You will never be a woman. Kill yourself.

>>55297081

But wait, there's more! Depending on the bullion product you're planning to sell, you may have to file a 1099-B Form specifically for transactions involving bullion. Picrel for infographic.

>>55297291
my favourite

Went to around the local area browsing for guns with a buddy today
Went to pawn shop, they had peace dollars $40 each...worth it?

>>55297609
This coin sum up the (((eurozone))) so fucking well.

>>55297664
>$40 each
hell no!

>>55297318
hard fake

>>55297664
do not buy them above 30 each, good price is 27-28

>>55297664
For common dates no.
Make sure you check to make sure they actually have mint marks. Some uncommon dates can be worth that much.

>Gold spot is currently £1,533

>>55297729
is this even for bu versions (assuming nothing super rare that would have a big premium)? i was going to start trying to pick some of those up sometime soon.

>>55297664

Premiums are up the ass for US constitutional silver, not just ASEs. And pawn shops are down there with "Cash 4 Gold" for establishments to avoid when buying/selling bullion.

>>55297837
Cheapies were yesterday.
You missed the boat.

>>55297885
>Cheapies were yesterday.
>You missed the boat.
No I haven't. See for yourself.

>>55297081
>>55297608
i just...i just hate them so fucking much.

>>55298121
Just be consistent and it is not suspicious. A few thousand a month adds up when it's every month.

>>55296596
>>55296601
>>55297081
thank you so much for the advice anons!

how many rms can a fella fit into a gold maple tube? we're going to find out, but if it only fits 10 maples...

>>55297846
"BU" peace dollars aren't impressive (low circulation) and are available in large quantities, even then I wouldn't pay more than like 35 for a decent looking one. don't try and play the expert and dig around for one that looks too good, thinking you got a steal for the price, because most of the time the guy will know how to price it appropriately at pawn store rates

>>55298447
yeah i used to buy BU peace dollars back when i was a scrub
now i'm all about those sweet culls
fuck BU

>>55298510
culls are freakin sweet I can't believe I used to be spending hundreds on a single morgan when I could be having fistfuls of dollars for the price of one of those

I'm a very frugal person, I never spend money wastefully, but something about the luster of gold and silver, I'm extremely attracted to it. I'm buying pm's without even thinking, like an addict craving his next fix.

MFW I give the clerk some ugly tattered old paper and get shiny metal discs in return

>>55296875

Primarily American Silver Eagles, but since premiums have become obscene I am diversifying my holdings. Started to purchase fractional gold because while 500+ ozt of silver is a decent store of wealth, it becomes a herniated disc & boating accident waiting to happen.

>>55297715
>>55297729
>>55297824
>>55297854
Alright thanks anons.
Besides the coins at the pawn shop
At gun stores found a Garand, SKS, Lee enfield N04 MK1 Scoped, K98 Scoped, and a couple of Springfield 1903a3s

>>55298686
You're prepping to be an old man.
Wise.

>>55295623
According to the archives it just appeared 2 weeks ago and coincidentally as others found it was the first thread to have the modified pastebin which almost shut down /pmg/. Long story short, that guy glows and I doubt he's even religious.
>>/biz/image/7if8FKauIvQcchEmX87MUQ

>>55298774
what kind of scope?
bubba scope or era scope?
what were the prices?

>>55298845
On the Enfield T scope
They wanted $1500 for her
The K98 era scope, all matching, they wanted 5k for it.

>>55298804
They're everywhere. Yesterday I was battling Keynesians on /v/ who were calling me an Austrian School of Economics cultist because I dared to promote the crack up boom situation that's coming. What was truly amazing when I was making the argument for real wealth like gold and silver, I really got them by the balls when I pointed out Keynesians think that they can get infinite economic growth out of a finite world. Not a single one of them argued with me that I was wrong, they only shouted insults at me from then on. These people really don't want precious metal stackers promoting alternative economies, because that spells the end for the thievery through USD inflation.

>>55298903
>over inflated prices
>that coin
the true parasite reveals himself
im in the market for a enfield as well and the prices are fuckin obscene.

>>55296465
Cute stack. Now take your damn pills, Alice.

>>55294498
LCS had kookaburras and a 2003 brittania for $25 each today. I honestly don't understand why he sells things so affordably, but I'm not complaining.

>>55296732
The levels of cringe in this post are off the charts.

>>55298981
I managed to find a Post war Lee Enfield N04 MK1/2
Payed $700 for her. I wouldn't mind a scoped Enfield but I think my post war Enfield is in better condition than that scoped one.

>>55296732
>who respected the land and animals
That's the narrative, but not so much reality anymore, alas. Take commercial vs tribal fishing - they want to keep their allotments per treaty despite depleted stocks. Their stance is, "why should we conserve because you over-fished?" They have a point, but it doesn't help the resource.
Tribal hierarchy is basically monarchical. The 'tribe' gets federal funds. Once it's in the coffer, the royals dole the funds out among the populace. Hence you see extreme poverty on Indian lands, too. Same with casino intake.
They're human. Humans are greedy, period.
They excuse their lack of technical progress as spiritual reverence.

Steel penny
Silver dime
And this 5 centavos coin (which I also have the silver version of)
My most recent coinstar hauls. The penny and dime were from the same one btw.

>>55299632
>tribal fishing
If the white man hadn't built dams on every river the respawn would be basically limitless.

>>55294873
Triangles!
where do you get?

How hard are PMs going to tank now the the Fed is done with rate hikes???

>>55300140
markets are going to collapse without those hikes nigga
the fed's trapped because if they raise more banks going to fail if they stop raising the music stops

>>55300140
i dunno but it probably matters less than you think

>>55298923
>austrian school cultist

embrace that shit dude. as one with an economics degree i can tell you the keynsians are utter bullshit

>>55299805
That's true for one genus.Tribal bad actors will poach geoduck, crab, shrimp, and salt water fin fish too. Yes, a lot of blame goes onto white man, but the resource still suffers at the hands of both.

>>55299818
ebay, many moons ago

>>55300317
>markets are going to collapse without those hikes nigga
hikes are bad for the market.

>>55299796
>Steel penny
f-from 1943?

>>55296586
The 1915 ducat restrike are not priced too bad compared to the 20F. I picked up 10 and I love them.

>>55298121
if it's any consolation, this go around might be the last for them. the internet was a GIANT monkey wrench in globohomos own-nothing schemes simply due to the fact instant communication became accessible to basically everybody, and all trying to censor and silence everybody is doing is causing a runaway Streisand effect. people are naming them in basically any place that has a comment section at this point.

to keep it /pmg/ related, anybody here have luck getting larger bars off fleabay? the 10oz East India bars are always out of stock and I want pirate ship stuff.

>>55300777
>anybody here have luck getting larger bars off fleabay?
Nope but l managed to snag this the other day, kek.
Also checked.

>>55300140
Why would they? Both situations are bullish for PMs in the mid term.
>more rate hikes/staying at 5% : banks holding trillions USD worth of pre-hikes minted bonds with a 1% yield become the heaviest bags ever held in history (since the new bonds yield x6 as much) and collapse the baggots banks, forcing the treasury to print to oblivion to save them from those "unrealized losses".
>rates go down : the printing machine restart and flood us with toilet paper, re-igniting double digits inflation
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of situation for the policy makers. Serious economists warned them for well over a decade this situation would be inevitable by creating a junkie economy centered around 0% interest rates. You can't cut the supply of easy money when everything rely on it. Look at the absolute state of commercial real estate. Eventually, by trying to extinguish fires left and right, the fed/treasury will have no other option but to plunge us into more currency devaluation.

Now for the normie counter-argument, you could argue that rates at caped at 5% will push toward """safe""" yield-generating Tbonds rather than gold. And that rates going down with push greedy cash toward the stonk market, who will probably rally for a while, at least for the duration of the transfert from bonds to stocks, as one become once again more profitable than the other. And both scenarii are certainly correct and bearish for PMs in the short term, but the respite will be so short-lived it would be foolish to think it will last more than few months.

>>55300397
Why are they so cancerous to debate with? I don't think I've ever come across such a group of people who are so hostile to their ideas being challenged. Surely if your method is so sound it can withstand scrutiny.

>>55300853
The shills they pay to post here don't give a shit about debating.
Their job is to make us look as bad as possible so it deters other anons on this website from stacking PM's.

>>55300883
but lurkers read the debates. You don't post for the shill but the person to shy to talk.

>>55294498
>triforce without numpad

>>55300140
It's all smoke and mirrors. The tanking will be temporary as the economy experiences lag when it is injected with liquidity, as seen here in this image. Even before covid, the low interest rates for a decade would have moonshot if it wasn't for quantitative easing, which covid played as a very convenient cover for it. In the next 18 months, I think they will use the war against Russia and China to pump the system full of liquidity again. You don't remove the debt limit until 2025 unless you're wanting the option to print to infinity. Use their metal market tricks to buy more cheapies while you still can, the next decade is going to be interesting.

>>55300883
Not every Keynesian asshole is a glowie, there are people who genuinely believe the formula.

>>55300914
Very true. And for the newfrens, a well timed pic is worth all the debates in the world. Because it's not sterile shit-flinging about convoluted cogs in a machinery purposefully designed to be talmudically complicated, but cold hard facts who have direct impact on their lives.
This humble pic is like atomic garlic to new monetary vampires theorists.

>>55298923
You will never be a real copper stacker.

>>55301002
This is a rather amazing pic. The juxtaposition of gold to the sheer mass of other base metals really puts things into perspective.

>>55301021
and to get that gold a good mine will move a literal ton of of earth and rock for just 8-10 grams.

>>55301050
Even still, it speaks to the rarity of gold but also the absurdity of these invaluable materials being so comically cheap. I really can't quite put my finger on it, ( i know that gold coin is not worth a truckload of copper ), but I feel like there is some sort of profundity that eludes my words right now.

>>55301079
What is being demonstrated is the efficiency of mechanization/industrialization. Things would be even cheaper if the bankers were not stealing those gains in efficiency by inflating the currency.
If a price of an item is stable and inflation is positive that means the process to produce it must get more efficient.

>>55300777
>anybody here have luck getting larger bars off fleabay
Trips checked.
I got a kilo 2021 Somali elephant coin for just under $800. That was pretty good. Technically not a bar, but oh well.

>>55300958
Man, I've never seen FUD to the extent that has been happening in /pmg/ threads, lately.
Nobody is going to just sit in threads all day, posting hundreds of posts about how good metals are as an investment, getting into simultaneous arguments with people and making pathetic attempts at memes all day for weeks on end, just out of the goodness of their hearts, to try and help people make a good investment.
There is definitely money behind the FUD shills, they have been employed by (((coin dealers)) who want people buying silver, in particular.
They've even started making multiple threads to disrupt /pmg/ cos they couldn't use arguments and were unable to make the threads unbearable (despite a lot of effort on their part).
The only conclusion that can be drawn is that we are over the target.

Top signal

https://twitter.com/jetneptune_/status/1669064810233733123

>>55301199
Maybe you're just paranoid and you should try going outside.

>>55301002
>even your ID is copper colored
Kek
But that other anon did his best. I want to believe he's buying the copper bars for the sake of collecting them.

>>55301212
whos he

I'm getting paranoid that my quarter indian is fake, what do you guys think?

>>55301218
>t. paid fudder
Or an incredibly naive newfag. It's well known pmg and setf are the two most targeted threads by bots and paid shills, all boards included. Hell, they even have the moderation onboard.
We are allowed to talk about everything but for this one topic : the destruction of fiat and the re-establishing of sound monetary policies. Fiat money/currency dilution/debt privilege is how the money changers became the uncontested masters of this world. Goyim aren't authorized to challenge it.
The entire power structure they created is based upon corruption at every level of society, starting with the corruption of money, which is the main vehicle of exchanges among humans. You can't fathom how important money is to mankind on every level : social, psychological, political, philosophical, metaphysical,.. The concept of universally accepted medium of exchange based on subjective terms to value labor and goods (past and future) is the greatest invention of mankind, even before fire or writing.
And few demons appropriated this invention to make it a tyrannical tool to enslave and to vampirize honest people. The world can only turn to shit when your money is worth shit.

>>55301377
Get in contact with a local coin shop or a precious metals buyer and ask if you can use their XRF Thermo Machine to test a coin you think is fake.

you guys see this?

unfortunately I don't have 25k to dump. saving for my own farmhouse

>>55301296
One of Samuel Whitcomb Hide's crew. Johnny Neptune talked about silver occasionally on one of Sam's live streams.

>>55301415
oy gevalt

Do they have fake coins on the other end of this bus?

>>55295989
ive used dry ice before to undo shit. not 2 metals though - temps might change different enough between metals to stress crack off. cheap, worth a try.. not sure if it tarnish's

>>55301407
Sometimes the counterfeits are actually made from the correct 22k gold though.

>>55301387
>silver scam
>/pmg/ flooded with shillbots.
TOP KEK
Remember everyone, $46BN silver and gold market in a $122BN premium grabbing scheme. Pair that with the supply/demand of silver which can easily produce a whopping 1800M worldwide, which is enough to procure 43 pounds for every AMERICAN. Per person on the planet you get a piece of silver roughly the size of an apple, when the demand for silver approaches zero. Look up the famous Mark Dice video. L to the MAO. The global silver system is a PONZI and it requires you to work tirelessly to pay premiums and store your metal in an expensive safe while paying 0 interest and dividends. It hasn't a chance in hell in providing you with the life ((((they)))) promise you. Your insurance, SS, etc are all pools of resources that have already been spent. Finance and accounting can NEVER create wealth on their own, and no amount of finagling will allow you to spend money EIGHTY times. All that the silver-ponzi has left to do is monetize the losses/default. Or in other words, actualize losses. That's why they shill garbage rocks to you 24/7/365. And there is no way to move the losses around on a balance sheet without someone who is not you footing the bill. All they can do is charge exorbitant premiums. And to avoid the losses you have to avoid so called precious metals, including gold, silver and copper,

>>55301431
Well, it's really your own fault if you're not being diligent about your purchase. Sure, you will probably lose your numismatic value that you think it has, but the good news is that the precious metal maintains its raw value so there's no major loss (in most cases).

>call out the paid shills
>they immediately crawl in to kvetch against PMs
like clockwork

>>55301436 thanks for proving my point.

>>55301449
It was bought it from my lcs where I buy everything from

>call out the paid shills
>they immediately crawl in to kvetch for PMs
like clockwork

>>55301459 (You) # thanks for proving my point. They shill nonstop every hour of everyday to grabbler your premiums

>>55301377
I just realized something. You can get the displacement of a basket used to suspend an object in a fluid and subtract that from the total displacement. A sort of tare. Then you can lay the (coin) flat and use a smaller container, much less fluid, and use a smaller, more sensitive, less expensive scale. Don't try to suspend the coin vertically - lay it flat!

>>55297609
What is that even supposed to mean?>>55301415
Uh… what? Smells fishy.

>>55301622
Lmao it's a great deal for a $25,000 investment you make $250 a year. Instant loser which loses more $ every year just like your boomer rocks. Lmao at you retards falling for another scam

>>55301622
kek, I just realised... it's called MARK...

MARK OF...

>>55301667
Nigga, can you even read? Even though it's tied to my beloved boomer rocks, I was questioning the legitimacy of this investment opportunity. I don't know the hebrew equivalent to "smells fishy", but maybe it helps you if you look up "sus" in your internet-for-boomers dictionary.
And speaking of dictionarys:
>>55301680
>MARK OF...
Markov chains?
But seriously, it's not an english word and apparently has roots in the Germanic unit of wheight of the same name and has been in use as a currency name since 1300.

post coomer coins

>>55296465
nice i have the one on the left

>>55295846
>our pastebin was "mysteriously" changed to include a no-no word and the OP image was the same one you just used for your now failed thread splitting bake


Holy shit what was in the link?

>>55298804
>the modified pastebin
What did he modify? I can't see it where he altered it

>>55302128
See https://files.catbox.moe/jiaeu4.png

>>55302180
>https://files.catbox.moe/jiaeu4.png
Thanks anon, that fucking bastards definitely a shill/troll like we already suspected

I've never seen this place as kiked as it is now. And its only pmg. 3 day for saying the word tribe. You can go any other thread on biz and rant about niggers and kikes and be fine but do it in pmg and the disgusting hook nosed jannie cries out in pain.
Fuck the jews. You tamp more i stack more, you retarded khazarian niggers. You naked short 25 million ounces in 10 minutes just to tamp the price a buck, lmao. Good luck keeping that going for much longer faggots.

>>55301879
Got yo fren

>>55301879
And the tiddy master. This is gorgeous but too rich for me

>>55302128
>Holy shit what was in the link?
>>55302146
>What did he modify? I can't see it where he altered it
Nothing. The name of the link was triggering some kind of autosage filter that you'd need insider knowledge to even know that such a thing exists.
At some point a mod pointed it out, after we had like 20 hours of meltdown and 10 threads that all slid down the board with no brakes, making all the crypto nerds seethe (but not the good kind…).

>>55302321
>At some point a mod pointed it out, after we had like 20 hours of meltdown and 10 threads that all slid down the board with no brakes, making all the crypto nerds seethe (but not the good kind…).

Thanks I saw catbox link, I know what you mean it starts with a C. I was wondering why so many /pmg/ threads got nuked that day. That thread splitter is always one post by ID too

>>55302209
Yall incels are so feminine feeling like the world will conform to your retard opinions. You should stick to astrology instead of investing in metals which exist in the world of reality. Fact is no one cares if you think it's fair that certain groups (who are experts in gold and silver) (those people with silver and gold literally in their name). You hate them and then give them your $$$ you "think" you will win? Lmao you don't think at all you only feel with your neovagina or as you call it a boypussy. Wake up chudiots buy real paper metal. Actually don't it's funny when in a bull market you still make a huge loss. Lmao. Sayonara (to your fiat $$$$$)

>>55302232
nice what coin is this?

>>55302416
https://limitedmintage.com/product/the-four-seasons-summer-1-troy-ounce-39mm/

>>55302410
i'm an aquarius, and if you're anything like my gran, you're also probably into numerology. i'm a life path 7.

>>55301879
Cuuuute !!!
Delicious Feeets!!

i love silver

>>55301796
Mark (of the beast) so using the currency itself is the same as taking "the mark", as that is the purpose of the mark, to transact.

>>55302410
>"fact is no one cares if you think"

>>55303011
Duh, of course I knew what you meant, I happen to speak a bit of shizo.
But OK, I'll entertain you:
What makes you so certain that the Mark of the beast is only valid if it's in english? Why not German? Or Hebrew? Or Latin or (old) Greek, to stay a bit closer to the original writing?
Oh well, have fun, fren!

Any good deals out there? I was slurping picrel for a few weeks, but have been out of town for the past week.

I'm new to this. How much tax are you paying to buy physical silver or is there any way to avoid that shit?

>>55303263
Yeah, paper silver, but yall retards prefer to be instant losers and pay 87% premiums

>>55303330
Yeah, buy real paper silver, but youse retards prefer to lose money so just pay the tax, lmao youse retards never learn cus ur retarted

Yikes silvers down another 3% losing against everything, what's that put ur losses at 69% . Good job you ended ur wallet

>>55303367
>HbRW

>55303350
>real paper
Hey, it's this guy again!

I bought a 1 gram silver bar to suck on during the day
Feels good

>>55303473
>Hey, it's this guy again!

Anon must have summoned IQDELET back here after linking to the /pol/ thread where he was sporting a Sri Lankan flag.

>>55301431
doesn't seem very likely tbqh

Holy crap
I keep taking breaks from /pmg/ & always come back to see how things are and it's still filled with posters kvetching, crying & shitting their pants over anons on a Mongolian shadow puppet show image board buying shiny coins for whatever reason they want.

>>55303762
>IQDELET
I missed him. Sometimes I question my financial decisions, but if the FUD is strong, I figure I'm heading in the correct direction.

>>55303427
Kek.
>>55304285
>Sometimes I question my financial decisions,
I gotta give this point to the fudders! This whole board is quite the circle jerk and there's a lot of stupid advice (and following that, stupid action) floating around and treated as the holy canon. If you don't question your decisions, your decisions probably weren't that wise to start with.
But on the other hand
>lol, premiums!
is a rather weak counterargument, if presented without any elaboration.
>>55303762
Those are some neat spoons! What do you say about my spoons? Real deal or plated?

>>55301377
Why? Looks fine to me. No red flags jumping out. Just check the weight, thickness and diameter against the details provided here:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6158.html
If youre still not sure then go to lcs and have them check it.

>>55304397
if some chump bought a gold coin from me, then came back in a few days saying he thinks the coin is fake, i would ban his ass from the store kek

I'm stacking gold only.

>>55304496
your pic implies the GSR needs to come down by a lot, dumbass

>>55300883
I never implied I don't agree with that, anon. However, with all things I collect, I always like to collect the thing that is more rare than the other.

>>55304598
But anon.... Silver will become the first natural resource that will be depleted

>>55304598
sounds like some weird emotional thing and not a cogent investment thesis but you do you

>>55300777
https://silvergoldbull.com/10-oz-2022-saint-helena-legal-tender-silver-bar
here, but a tad overpriced IMO

>>55301879

>>55304640
Really? Why?

>>55304654
Eghh I just think I watched too many cartoons and played to many video games where I admired gold over silver. I also hate the fact my local LCS in all of fucking Dallas brainwashed me by always having so much damn silver in stock but rarely and gold.

>>55300811
dang thats a good deal
was it an auction? free shipping?

>>55304679
nobody brainwashed you by stocking silver in a store, mate

>>55296732
>respected the land and animals and didn't fucking pave over Gods creation to create some industrialized hellscape run by deep state military industrial complex and rigged monetary system
our current system is a jewish gangster capitalism
the answer is nationalism, not becoming a bunch of plains niggers who spend thousands of years doing the same dumb shit (like niggers)

>>55294498
nice stack, nigger.

>>55304748
>We are conquerors

>>55298180
>A few thousand a month adds up when it's every month.
>A few thousand a month
>every month

>>55304673
>https://silvergoldbull.com/10-oz-2022-saint-helena-legal-tender-silver-bar
just saw a shop that had these for $278 last week. i'll see if i i can find it again

>>55297664
I wouldn't pay $30 for a Peace dollar in any condition.
I will pay $30 for 1921 Morgans though.
I tend to not buy other year Morgans because they are very collectable and therefore tend to be not perfectly fungible.

I don't remember if I posted in this thread.

>>55304673
found it niggers

https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/4111/2022-silver-10-oz-st-helena-queen-s-virtues-standing-brit-coin-bar-bu

>>55304830
peace > morgan
fight me, brah

>>55304872
Slimmer neck sure, but the Morgan is a nicer coin. I don’t want to fight, I’m old and have bad joints.

>>55304872
>>55304888
they're both overpriced, buy rounds

>>55304785
Makes perfect sense you stupid nigger.

>>55304679
Industry needs silver. Mines running out. It's not getting recycled. China wants to stop fractional silver paper trading to increase the price to a realistic level

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EtOB4_NFFsE&pp=ygURc2lsdmVyIGV4dGluY3Rpb24%3D

and

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YzZYIk4-XBs&pp=ygUXc2lsdmVyIGV4dGluY3Rpb24gY2hpbmE%3D

stack it now. Trade paper funny money for cold hard silver. Hold it until fiat goes kaputt. Trade 10 to 20 Ounces of silver for one ounce of gold, or buy real estate with silver directly.

>>55304910
was going to ask, is the issue putting "several thousand" a month into investments? or that that approach wouldn't work? it does work.

>>55304679
>Really? Why?
Because silver is an onlygatherclosetothesurfaceium (forgot the technical word) metal. So in truth, we don't *really* know if silver is more abundant than gold in relative terms, since gold can be found at any depths. But since we don't have the tech to dig very deep anyway, it's not that important for now.

But just keep in mind silver seemed abundant because it was easily accessible. But all this easy access silver is now gone, and if it turns out silver become rarer the deeper we go, it will significantly impact the price.
Think silver as the opposite of diamond, ultra rare at the surface level, but literally everywhere down a certain depth.

>>55304801
That's what they are now...
at the site you posted.
??

>>55304950
Kek... should have screen-capped. It's gone up $2 in the last two minutes.

>>55304950
>https://silvergoldbull.com/10-oz-2022-saint-helena-legal-tender-silver-bar
280 using a check there

267 using a check at my link

>>55304986
my link charges tax. have to see if silvergoldbull does too. if they don't, that might end up being slightly cheaper

>>55303330
Sales tax on PMs depends on the jurisdiction. I pay none.

>>55304872
>peace > morgan
The market disagrees with you.

>>55304478
Great way to cultivate repeat customers. I would say "Sure" and if there was a problem, refund his money. I would also advise him that it is best to test before you complete the transaction.

I was once in a LCS when a young man came in with inherited coins to sell. They were not worth much. But the LCS guy spent about half an hour gently schooling the kid on coin collecting, suggesting things he might find interesting to collect, etc. I hung around just so I could watch the artistry in cultivating future customers.

>>55303094
That's what I said, it could be any language.

>>55304478
This. He could have aquired a fake copy of the coin and got the real coin from you. Scammers are everywhere.

>>55304925
You know what? I will. I got a spare 200 from my paycheck today, I'll get some silver, lads. If it tarnishes it doesn't hurt the value too much right?

>>55305228
Go for it, you're buying the metal not the numismatic

>>55305223
I hadn't thought of that! I'm too trusting for small business.

>>55305228
>tarnish
gold and silver always keep their worth at minimum, the older a coin it can surpass it's own worth many times over.

>>55304285
Lmao He convinces you retards to lose all your money

>>55305282
Yup, there are fakes available of basically all populare bullion coins and some rare ones too. Also bars.

>>55304936
It works to lose more money. Kek. Yall all have huge bags of losses

>>55305392
The store would need to have a sign that says something like "We will happily test for free any coin you are thinking of purchasing from us. But once the purchase is complete there will be no refunds under any circumstances."

Now I'm thinking about magicians or other slight-of-hand experts examining a coin in the LCS and palming the real one and substituting a fake.

>>55305394
>huge bags
okay child

>>55305458
Kek, true.

>>55305458
>"We will happily test for free any coin you are thinking of purchasing from us. But once the purchase is complete there will be no refunds under any circumstances."

That is BS though and doesn't inspire confidence, it should be: accept returns, but only after testing

>>55304936
The issue was the "per month" *every month*, like the latter was redundant or resulted in some weird amount/per month/per month unit thingy. But the point was that you should do it regularly to build wealth, like really every month, not just every other month.
Or maybe I'm thinking too complicated and it's just the amount being almost ridiculous.

>>55305493
Then the whole point of not getting scammed disappears. Are you a fucking scammer?

>>55304830
>1921

>>55305524
Fuck off with your name calling.

A LCS has a Sigma Metalytics Pro of something similar and can accurately test a coin if it is a fake or not and you can tell otherwise with weight, sound and nitric acid see the OP

>>55305556
fuck you!

So your customer comes back in after a couple of days saying his fake coin is fake, and you test it, and lo and behold, it's fake! Now what do you do? Huh? HUH?

>>55305572
>So your customer comes back in after a couple of days saying his fake coin is fake, and you test it, and lo and behold, it's fake! Now what do you do? Huh? HUH?

Bait, whatever you don't take it back as you show it was a fake and tell it is not the original coin you sold him

>>55305593
My POINT is WHY in the fucking fuck don't you test it in the SALE PROCESS instead of when he comes back in with it?

>>55305603
what do you mean? I never said you should test it when you SELL it, in fact you should and even if you forgot when you sell it. Just get a random similar coin and show the customer that does test positive for a real one

>>55305630
Fucking scammer detected.

>>55305630
people were hanged and shot in the past over such disputes. Wouldn't try to scam

>>55304986
Just to be clear, we're talking about two different coins: ship vs Hibernia. Same country.

>>55305228
>If it tarnishes it doesn't hurt the value too much right?

Doesn't affect value at all iirc, Some people like the tarnish and will pay more

>>55305739
I handle my coins without gloves and don't keep them in a capsule either. I only buy bullion coins so resale value is not affected. Never understood people who are afraid to touch silver or gold.

>>55305458
>Now I'm thinking about magicians or other slight-of-hand experts examining a coin in the LCS and palming the real one and substituting a fake.
>>55305556
>A LCS has a Sigma Metalytics Pro of something similar and can accurately test a coin if it is a fake or not and you can tell otherwise with weight, sound and nitric acid see the OP
LCS has another highly sophisticated tool for detecting fakes that you guys haven't heard of and can't buy. The best tool really.

>>55305771
I have touchy fondle stack made out of junk silver and stack I don't touch, in most countries it doesn't matter as it is metal values anyway, but for example in Japan they do care about the condition

>>55305789
Ok.

I won't hesitate to cut my coins into pieces to trad either.

>>55305802
*trade

>>55305802
>I won't hesitate to cut my coins into pieces to trad either.

>>55305834

>>55305834
Yes. It's only utility.

How's the stacking going guys?

any euro anons here who can guide me to euro online stores that sell silver junk coins below spot and deliver to Germany?

>>55305974
I'm heavily into the cheapest junk silver coins I can find. I realized, you only pay for the silver content, most time at or below spot. You get the remaining copper for free, especially lucrative for low silver content coins alá 625.

AgCu AgCu AgCu!

>>55305983
Gold.de aufgeldtabelle is fine and the shops are reliable so that works, is their anything specific you are looking for?

>>55305974
I'm considering buying some more silver instead of bitcoin tbqh.

>>55305974
Going to some LCS in Germany this weekend to look for some nice coins

>>55306020
AgCu
CuAg
Cuang
Kang
King

>>55306020

Very nice!

>>55306033

Why's that Anon?

>>55305228
Silver tarnish is still silver atoms. So you're good there. Cleaning it means you are scraping off a layer of silver, and this, have less silver.

>>55306033
checked + based

>>55306060
Because i think i'll be forced to jump through impossible hoops to get internet access in klaus schwabs utopia.

>>55306074
there are ways to chemically remove tarnish that preserve the underlying silver
you don't have to though. i quite like tarnish on most of my pieces. only rarely does the tarnish look ugly imo

test

>>55306102
if failed, pic related

>>55305940
I just realized that some sort of coin-cutting device will be important in the future.

>>55306122
possible or just get smaller denominations of coins to trade. I mean you can just use an axe

>>55306085

Sounds like you made the right decision than.

>>55306031
any euro shop that has better deals than them. similiar to https://www-acheter--or--argent-fr.translate.goog/achat-piece-d-argent.html_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de but from roughly calculating that seems bit overpriced? just want the cheapest of cheap

>>55306033
lol
https://www.acheter-or-argent.fr/niue-1-once-argent-bitcoin-2022.html

>>55306122
In this age we don't need coin cutting, just adequate fractional coins.

>>55306122
Yes, I believe they used to have large shears for that if I'm not mistaking

>>55306133
:-)

>>55306140
i love 1/2 and 1/4 oz silver coins
premiums a bitch though

>>55306140
and silver junk. You need a list of most common silver junk coins in your area.

>he's not stacking 3/4 oz coins, the patrician's denomination

>>55306139
So you want some French coins? I think that site you copied is the best price other literally going to France and go to small LCS's. Perhaps try this one?

https://monnaiesmedailles17.com/43-special-investissement

They do ship to the rest of Europe, but you have to contact them for the price

>>55305983
There are some smaller shops which aren't listed on gold.de, like https://www.briefmarken-muenzen-grewe.de
Other than that what you're looking at is the go to place to find cheap junk silver.

>>55306222
there needs to be an euro wide gold.de/Aufgeldtabelle... will check this site

>>55306096
>there are ways to chemically remove tarnish that preserve the underlying silver
That's what the aluminum foil + salt bath does, right? I think technically it's some sort of electrolysis happening. Certainly smells foul like rotten egg mixed with farts, which would come from the released sulfur.
What's the memismaticists opinion on doing this? Does it "damage" the coin?

>>55306330
>Does it "damage" the coin?
You 'might' scratch a coin little bit with alu foil + baking soda, but I don't know how numisfags thing about it. It might be too clean after though

>>55306140
Some cheap things are better off paid for with copper.
>>55306385
I don't think it would damage the coin unless for some reason the reaction changes the physical structure of the silver molecules. I'm not smart enough to know if this happens.

>>55306454
It is not the reaction, it is the friction from you putting and removing the coin from the alu foil + soda bed that might cause scratches or reveal scratches that where already there

>>55306330
>What's the memismaticists opinion on doing this? Does it "damage" the coin?
1. Attempted fraud
2. Removes attractive coating
3. Removes protective coating
4. Chemical reaction continues well after the cleaning is "done."
5. It's just gonna tarnish again, and probably not as nicely

so yeah, it "damages" the coin because the coin is more than just the molecules. The tarnish or patina is part of the coin, and a part we pay to have.

Wait is someone baking by the way?

Alright I will bake then

>>55306708
>>55306708
>>55306708

New thread

>>55306474
Yes, but the reaction might change the arrangement of the silver. Although the sulfur could have done that already. Not sure about that. Just guessing it might or might not happen.
>>55306494
IIRC "cleaning" means removing metal layers from the coin somehow, through dipping or polishing or something like that. Just removing dirt is called restoration. But I get it.
>The tarnish or patina is part of the coin, and a part we pay to have.
I have not yet reached that level of autism. It can look nice though.

>>55306840
>IIRC "cleaning" means removing metal layers from the coin somehow, through dipping or polishing or something like that. Just removing dirt is called restoration. But I get it.
Yeah mechanically removing soil or an encrusting patina that obscures the surface of the coin is ok.

problem with any chemical treatment is we don't know what chemicals you used, and some of them will destroy the coin over time.

other problem is 1. attempted fraud. A cleaned coin looks like someone trying to rip people off, and even if that's not the case we can't know why it was cleaned so we just pay less for it no matter the reason.

honestly, at this point, i don't even think glowniggers come here. it is probably all bunkercucks