/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55277781
I don't believe you have coworkers. You are a stinky little incel in your parents house

>>55277781
sql no, python obviously

>>55277781
Fuck I love Tay Tay bros. Also SQL is for returning Data through queries python is for programming all kinds of crazy shit

>>55277781
>SQL
Database query language, not exactly programming. just querying data from tables, joins, unions data manipulation with Relational algebra

>Python
Yes, but also depending on what ur coding and which libraries u use but yes

Is SQL hard to learn? I could advance in my job if i do it. I don't have cs related background

>>55277896
I learned it in about 3 months, enough that I can use it daily but not an expert

>>55277781
making computer do what you want in an automated fashion is programming.

>>55277952
It's literally called querying.

>>55277781
Yes. Programming is when you create a program that manipulates data. SQL does this.

SQL has less functions, sure. But it's not a piece of software. If not a programming language, what is it?

I think what you co-worker (or you) meant was that you can't get a 100k year job with SQL. But you probably can in some high security capacity.

>>55277908
What do you use it for?

>>55278018
I'm a data analyst

SQL is Turing complete

Query languages are still programming languages

>>55278057
only to losers who can't code

>>55277973
i wasn't claiming anything but that is my definition of programming. whether either of those tools fall under this definition is another story.

>>55278072
Just because it lacks complexity doesn't mean it isn't programming.

>>55277781
both are turing complete, so any program in history from windows XP to skyrim can potentially be implemented using SQL or python (or brainfuck for that matter).

>>55277781
No, a python is a snake and SQL is an airport in San Mateo County, California.

>>55277781
FOR SQL
probably not "real" programmers who write C will say no but they have no appreciation for how fucked the architecture for some random database you didn't write but have to integrate can be
but generally if you are doing light weight SQL, dont call yourself a programmer
FOR PYTHON
yes, I work for an artificial intelligence company programming in python
while python is the most accessible programming language for beginners
its still the most powerful for highly capable users too

>>55277832
Imagine the smell.

>>55277781
sql, not really, only mindless queries/inserts. python, also no, mostly script kiddies.

SQL, yes, needs some object oriented design of domain driven design.
Python, no, it's just a scripting language.

Yes, duh.

>>55278194
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>>55278075
>>55278057
>>55278030
etc.
css+html is also turing complete you fucking coping smoothbrains

>>55277781
I'm 28 and never had sex. I also learned to code on Codecademy, applied to a few jobs, and now I earn $125k as a Senior Software Engineer. I may be a virgin but I'm fucking rich.

>>55277999
>I think what you co-worker (or you) meant was that you can't get a 100k year job with SQL. But you probably can in some high security capacity.

top tier DBAs are super fucking handy to have

>>55277781
python yes.

SQL... sort of.
you need some place to put data
it has a structured query language
you have to organize your tables in a coherent method (normal form)

they go hand in hand

>>55277781
those shelves won’t stack themselves, anon

>>55277781
I consider programming oop. React and frontend doesn't count for this reason since it always feels like I'm working in Photoshop.

>>55278023
wherer at, and how much do you make?

>>55280459
$75k, just started. Obviously not saying where I work at but it's a giant consumer goods conglomerate

>>55280494
which country/state/region

>>55280522
US, currently California but since it's WFH, I'll be moving

>>55277781
Idk what SQL is but Python is a type of snake it’s got nothing to do with computers.

>>55280538
thanks, michael

>>55277781
sql is as much programming as competent excel use is, which is to say "barely" but also unfortunately more than probably 80% of the population can manage.

Python is trivial.

>>55277781
> python not programming
you drank way too much /g koolaid (or /g runoff pooling into /biz). calm down. sql isn't programming though.

SQL not really, but that doesn't mean it's somehow less technical or requires less knowledge. I've written SQL queries that are thousands of lines long just like a true compute program.
Python is absolutely programming though, 100% yes

>>55277781
How much bbc does she takes per month? Is it financially viable for her?

>>55278023
any course you would recommend? I basically have like a year to learn

>>55281577

I took the UC Berkeley course for data analytics, which is a certificate. I already have a bachelor's in marketing. I did read the SQL quick start guide before enrolling

And learning Python the hard way.