/biz/ - Business & Finance

How many VXX puts we on right now bros?

LET'S GO JUNE MARKET

i told you to load up on ccl, its not too late

uranium

>>55209711
Good image choice OP. I made that one back in 2021

Are we extreme fear yet?

Every woman's home has 200 SBUX cups scattered around. How do I profit from this?

>>55209759
FAG index says high greed.

>>55209738
no

ASMB stock ladies!

>>55209742
that muh russia article was so fucking gay. all but one reactor has been off since last year they are just baiting like the namibia article. I sold a couple days ago I want to see what happens buy the end of the week.

>bobochuds still think this is a bear market rally
How fucking stupid are you retards?

>>55209816
It is a bear market rally but it will be a 7 year long one

>>55209849
Delusional, you'll never see SPX 4200 ever again.

>>55209849
Funny thing is that you ain't far off. The rallies since like 2008 possible even earlier, have all been results of kicking the can down the road of what should have been a healthy correction.

>>55209867
So you're saying I should go all in SPY 420.69 for the laughs?

>>55209771
Invest in coffee beans, Hershey Coco, Whipped Cream and clear solo cups and Charge $9.99 for a cup also put out a tip jar. Once you have established yourself start getting dry ass scones and I mean THE DRIEST SCONES EVER MADE, some overly crumbly muffins and rock hard biscotti. Sell all these for a 500%-1000% mark up heat them in the microwave so they have the illusion of freshness. For deals just make the illusion of a deal without actually sacrificing profits.

Guaranteed S&P 500 company in 20 years or less.

>>55209816
Why did you pretend to not know what smg was on reddit

>>55209876
right, we'd probably be much higher today if the fed niggers allowed the markets to correct naturally.

>>55209721
I will be rolling my SPY hedge next week, at the cost of $100, with a 20:1 payout should it drop to 240 by next year

I just want to let anyone who said my growth wasnt sustainable, was wrong. +20% in 2 months became +40% total in 3 months.

>>55209949
anon, nobody truly escapes

>>55209949
yeah, the funco pop retailer's been doing great if you bought in last year

>market up 7 weeks in a row
>suddenly everybody in /smg/ is a genius trader again
Gonna be a long recession

>>55209745
I salute you, anon.

If >we can hold 4300 you're gonna see some serious shit.

>VIX level not seen since before the pandemic
we did it reddit!

magnets?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afv7gU7WyGk
u.s.a magnets.

>>55209917
Kek, this is a good business plan.

Let's hear it sisters, "The Russell chad was right."

>>55209921
Because it's an ESL eastern yuro shill that occasionally copy-pastes from someone else's reddit account as cover.

>Futures
Hunt and scalp all jannies

>>55209731
Sell in May... if you're gay

>>55209982
as much as I miss GME I havent been in it since march went I bought for the winter seasonal sales. and before that since mid 2021. ill watch it tomorrow but idk if Ill get it in
>>55209966
I cant imagine trying to trade with so much money you could just buy the companies youre playing with. I think it would likely be wiser to just use a smaller amount of money more often and turn a small some into a medium lump over and over. Im not planning on using other peoples money ever

>>55209771
run
Verification not required.

Check out Storm Area 51 coin

>>55210084
I bought in May.

We did it Joe, we did it! - Kamala

>>55209949
Lol 3 months is nothing for investing man. Go look at the nasdaq 100. Youre basically only copying that wave

>>55209810
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/nova-kakhovka-ukraine-dam-collapse-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-iaea

If this gets bad could it effect the URANIUM
bull thesis ie, supply & demand
The coal lobby and the anti nuclear greens
could also use a potential catastrophe as a reason to continue to advocate the mothballing of more reactors?

Is it a good idea to put my cash in robinhood and sign up for gold for the 4% interest rate or will I get rugged?

>>55210080
Yaeh i'm kind of weirded out, I just thought it was just an autistic redditor posting stupid bullish stuff

>futures

>>55210115
Nah. For one, Ukies are opening dams upstream to keep flooding the area. For another, the inactive reactors only need a few garden hoses worth of cooling water.

Now this random Bloomberg bitch talking about 150 new Chinese reactors, that might be something: https://twitter.com/vtchakarova/status/1666189556289269760

Long NATKY?

>>55210123
Vanguard money market funds pay 5%: https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/money-markets

If you want a little extra hassle you should also be able to buy some t-bills directly for like 5.5% or thereabouts.

>>55210123
You won't get rugged but you can do better than 4% without the monthly fee elsewhere

>>55210115
>>55210139
The plant is inactive so second guy is correct there's no risk for meltdown. I bought uranium a year ago because of china's pivot to nuclear but it's underperformed tech. Shit decision.

>>55210124
They're government contractors that use "NAFO" as plausible deniability for their shilling operation. They've been all over these threads for months, and usually operate in groups of at least two. "PutsRNotDaWae" is the bad cop in the good cop/bad cop duo. He acts retarded so that the other shill can blend in.

lmao

>>55210111
I have made over 300 swing trades. the longest I held any play was 5 days, and today I made over a dozen trades. Yeah I could have just thrown it into different levered etfs but then I wouldnt have learned anything for myself.
>>55210115
its just a rehashing of an older article from a year ago except this time some one blew up the damn.
>5/6 reactors off since last year
>pond has enough water for months
its literally nothing the nuclear commission people already verified there is no damage to the plant at all

>>55210080
>>55210124
You're both poor and you smell like shit. Stinky bobo queers.

>>55210173

>>55210164
Shit decision *so far*. Isn't half the reason for holding it that you've got a "squeeze out of nowhere" shortage catalyst that'll hit in the near future?

God this AI meme is worse than when every shitco put "blockchain" somewhere on their website.

>>55210170
>The birthplace of globohomo isn't globohomo enough for Europe

>>55210184
It's worse because everyone knew blockchain was a scam, AI will be the real deal eventually

I wonder how long these shitcos will remain propped up on empty promises of AGI and shit like that lol

>>55210170
So why do euros keep blaming america for that shit then

>>55210123
nigger you're paying $5/month for that when you can get the same at any bank with a high yield savings account

>>55210188
Always ends in a purity spiral, anon.

>>55209590
>I wrote ATM at $90 in january i think and bought puts at $80.
I don't understand why you buy the 80 if your real play is to collect premium. I guess that caps your loss to $10 if you have to buy at $90 and sell at $80 if the price dips below 80. I guess you are collecting more premium for selling the $90 than if you were to sell the $80 strike. But for me I would just take the loss on the short put if I really didn't want to own the stock if the market price is at $80 vs buying a protective put and making it a credit put spread. I'm a bit of a risk taker though with options. I sell a weekly 3 lot of SPY covered calls and cash secured puts. Then also do long 0 dtes for really short term scalps. Need to check myself on the risk I take on the long options though, I hate being wrong.
>>55209602
My really bad Thursday was the result of one bad boredom trade which wouldn't have absolutely killed me had I walked away after, but then I did a second revenge trade on the day which was stupid. Then did another stupid boredom trade the next day instead of sun tanning in my backyard. It forced me to sit and do my bookkeeping and figure out what I need daily to break even on the year, its so doable, I'm just not content with stopping at that amount on some days. Today was was a tough trading day that I ended hitting my goals on. But the shit with my roof had me angry and I realized i shouldn't have open positions when I'm that mad, even if my anger is at something not market related. So I bailed on my position for $0.01 per contract profit and sat the rest of the day out, because I can't afford the too many more catastrophic bad days that start out as great days. Really just need to stick to my trading goals and either log off when they are hit or have the discipline to just watch from the sidelines after my money is made for the day.
>>55209660
I don't feel comfortable holding too much of anything overnight. I'm a very short term trader.

>>55210169
Is this "NAFO" boogeyman in the room with us right now? You need to take your meds, schizo.

>>55210212
You keep shilling here, so yes.

>>55210184
Take heart. Google Trends show interest is rolling over in "Nvidia" and "ChatGPT". Wallstreetbets is also distracted with the new shiny things of AAPL, COIN, and MVIS.

>Dislosure: Balls deep in NVDS

>>55210170
>>55210188
>>55210196
>>55210200
>impact is minimal
who the fuck cares about 18b in bonds you retards. ESG is not real. Go back to >>>/pol/

>>55210248
You've been calling every bullposter a shill for months, if you're actually bearish you would've lost all your money awhile ago. I can conclude you own no stocks and are a foreign shill.

>>55210264
thats the part that makes it extra funny

>>55210139
>>55210164
>>55210182
Velina on Twitter says 150 reactors incoming.
So bag holding for now
Long term Hodl

>>55210273
>muh russia
>t. guy that writes in ESL
pottery

>>55209988
Jpow can't even force a recession. People simply won't stop spending, or buying stocks

You bought calls right anon?

>>55210319
you really think we are going to up up and away from the Jackson Hole highs? Then where the fuck is resistance?

>>55210310
Explain why you believe every bullish poster is a paid shill. Literally like 30% of people are bullish right now, you bobo fags are still the majority. The market is pumping because it seeks to cause maximum pain.

You are not prepared for what's coming.

Another day. Made the hard (not really) choice to sell my bank stocks and roll that into more VZ. Was easy choice; I don't have any accounts with BAC or C and well VZ's fat yield and divvy beats both. Also I'm a VZ customer. Now if I held COF that'd been a different mater due to me having business there.

>>55210351
>Also I'm a VZ customer
You are getting ass raped, easily paying 2x too much for cell service

>>55210351
Honestly not a terrible idea. KBE doesn't have much upside from here given continued rate fuckery.

>>55210351
what makes you go with KHC? i just happened to have taken a look at it today and passed, and i say that as someone who holds GIS.

>>55210359
Kek nope. My monthly bill is under 28 a month.

>>55210332
Because you constantly ESLpost and do obvious inorganic astroturfing. Imagine unironically shilling for Biden on /biz/.

>>55210379
For Verizon service? Mine was $85 and now I switched and pay $29.99

>>55210379
>$28 a month
>using Verizon
What do you have 300 anytime minutes no texting and no data?

>>55210381
Most of /biz/ and America likes Biden, he's unironically the reason we are going to achieve a soft landing. The man inherited a fucked up economy from the previous administration irresponsibly printing money, and has almost managed to return inflation back to 2%.

>>55210378
Well the divvy and yield aren't bad. Also me and the Wife go after the ketchup, mayo,mustard and fries a lot. I also eat the bologna,hot dogs and twin pack of ham/turkey offerings.

>>55210328
It's been 1 year and where are we now? Aim for the the piss line, if you don't make it at least you'll land among the stars.

>>55210395
Yep phone bill is under 28 a month. Smartphone plan. 5GB data. Really all I need due to the whole open Wi-Fi now in all the businesses. Galaxy phone.

>>55210407
>Most of /biz/ and America likes Biden, he's unironically the reason we are going to achieve a soft landing. The man inherited a fucked up economy from the previous administration irresponsibly printing money, and has almost managed to return inflation back to 2%.

>>55209988

>>55210288
they are going to do huge offerings, and lots of smaller uranium miners have shelf offerings ready to go or have mentioned. I dont know if this is itfor real or this is the a money grab then one final giga dump and bottom out for the 2025+ cycle start

>>55210435
>no rebuttal
I accept your concession, Ivan. You still haven't explained why you believe every bullish poster is a paid shill, you've only explained why you think I'm a shill.

>>55210407
>>>/pol/
Also filtered

>>55210153
i keep my cash safe at home

>>55210434
Also unlike kids now I don't use it 24/7.

>>55210411
Can't stand Oscar Mayer. Their hot dogs are so bland. Less meat and more of a ketchup delivery vehicle.

>>55210454
Hey, if you're willing to commit some minor crime, hoarding pennies as a zinc/copper HODL play isn't the worst inflation hedge.

>>55210411
oh, i understand that, i am a KHC man myself more times than not when it comes to condiment choices. the divy did look good, but it also looks to be on a long term downward trajectory with analyst reports speaking of poor leadership. i was very tempted despite that, but decided to watch for a while instead.

i hope MP Materials will supply magnets for f-35's one day not too far from now

I'm not the only one who thiniks spy is overboiling at this point right frens?

>>55210446
I'm not helping you improve your shill tactics. See >>55210451

>>55210171
>I have made over 300 swing trades. the longest I held any play was 5 days, and today I made over a dozen trades. Yeah I could have just thrown it into different levered etfs but then I wouldnt have learned anything for myself.
you still haven't

>>55210086
>I cant imagine trying to trade with so much money you could just buy the companies youre playing with.
sigma grindset

>>55210454
It's a novel article, but there is no scenario in which collecting pennies would be worth it. In most cases it's probably not even worth bending over to pick up pennies found on the street.

>they're feeding the namefag (You)s

>>55210484
my entries and exits are getting pretty good. I can read momentum, patterns, and am familiarizing myself with moving average strategies, and volatility. dont hate if you dont got it anon

>>55210511
Shills win unless you publicly humiliate them.

what are the implications that now that we know that aliens are here that they are manipulating the market?

>>55210517
nigger all your profit is coming from beta

>>55210528
aliens are demons

>>55210480
We haven't even begun to blow off.

>>55210411
>>55210473
fuck it, just queued up an order for FIE BUX worth
it has crabbed pretty flat over the 5 year span and that is a breddy gud divy. i will buy more if the right setup presents itself.

>>55210538
Anyone can be a demon, human or alien

It's the anniversary of D-DAY, did you buy LMT?

>>55210561
why everybody is talking of aliens these days ? pic unrelated

>>55210569
Wtf I thought that image was a tight-rope walking llama

>>55210480
heh you are crazy, spy about to go hogwild in 2 weeks

>>55210569
yes i did and NOC, GD, BA, BAH, HON, and RTX. already had LDOS (owned by LMT).

>>55210591
i confirms. 2 weeks

>>55210480
You ain't seen shit yet.

>>55210182
I mean that already happened in 2020, but I was in oil back then cause it was more obvious. Uranium probably wont spike that much further it will be a slow grind up

is there any stock comfier to own than aapl? i feel like you could just keep accumulating forever and will never go wrong. it feels almost too good to be true, not only beating the market return every year but getting a great dividend too.

I have enough runway to last over 4 years
Should I quit my job and go get an MBA?

>>55210658
Yes and same. Get loans and buy dividends.

>>55210658
depending on your job they might support you getting your MBA. But I understand not wanting to work and do school at the same time.

>>55210658
MBAs are basically only good for networking, i'd pass

>>55210675
Man I don't want to take on debt... but yeah
>>55210678
Nah, I work for a small startup. They can barely afford me as it is... they won't shell out for a degree. And yes: I do not want to work and go to school at the same time.
>>55210683
Fuck... so if I have social anxiety, it's a waste of time I guess...

>>55210503
You hoard them for the psychological factor, not the financial gain.

>>55210658
nope, MBA's are just boomer certs now.

>>55210480
No Bearish sentiment is still too high also the S&P was moved by Large and Midcaps. Not the Mega Caps in fact those were mostly down today.

>>55210537
Im not sure how to go about using beta right now because its many different tickers, many different weights, and different lengths of holding each. if I just throw every single dollar into nasdaq and bought the very bottom and sold today at the top I beat it by 30%. if I did the same with tqqq Im only a few percent below it. I dont know why beta is a bad thing, whenever things start to go down again Ill start shorting or use inverse etfs. I dont have to hold anything and I trade every day hoping to get more experience

>>55210683
But isn't that a good thing if you want income?

So are supply/demand zones actually good for trading or are they a meme?

The VIX is still too high to account for how SPX has been crabbing the last few weeks. VIX will go lower. The mode of the VIX is 12. You will see that soon

>>55210701
correction tqqq beat me by a few + 20%. so im 33% below tqqq if i bought when I started until today.

>>55210683
>only good for networking
literally all that matters these days less removing your dick.

>>55210723
How does a 9 handle for christmas sound?

It's finally time to short NVDA. Thank you to the sacrifice of all those who came before, your loss paved the way for my entry.

>>55210783
please stop feeding the machine, I am begging you

>>55210783
Just curious, what convinced you?

>>55210783
Why short NVDA and not AMD? I just don't get it everything seems better for NVDA, and AMD would be around 50 bucks at same P/E. The bubble doesn't need to pop for AMD correction

>>55209711
Just had sex with a nice petite white girl(lmaoo I race mixed) and I'm up $100 EOD. Life's pretty good anons

>>55210817
Fuel please we're stalling.

>>55210715
>>55210740
He probably doesnt have a CFA, should probably get one of those first. Nobody cares about MBA in finance. If youre doing some managing shit that doesnt require hard skills then sure go do an MBA

>>55210836
NVDA has a bit more insider selling:
https://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/1045810.htm
https://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/2488.htm

I just bought the best choccy from Lidl
thick creamy and actually tastes like chocolate
how do I short american groceries and long euro ones killing them in the USA?

>>55210503
if you make $36 an hour you make .01c per second so it would be worth it until then

>>55210935
That's actually a good argument for shorting Dollar General and Dollar Tree. Aldi's great.

Would an abandoned property REIT be successful company?

>>55210960
Yes if the divvie is there.

>>55210558
FOOK EEEET
i canceled the FIE DOLLA market open queue and went ahead on
A
WHOLE
FUCKIN
FULL
DANG
SHARE
of KHC
because i wanted to get it at
THA LORD GOD Almighty's price of
TREE SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN
and got a fill after waiting a few min
KEETCHOOP BABY

>>55210919
Ok just get soxs then, new auto sales aren't going to justify the price of other semis either especially with student loans starting to be repaid (or yo u would say not being repaid)

>>55210829
>Just curious, what convinced you?
Momentum has peaked. I like to keep things simple.

>>55211079
>>55210919
>>55210836
the real reason to short nvidia instead of amd is because they have the lowest cost way of doing so with NVDS

>>55211119
>the lowest cost way of doing so with NVDS
It costs less for them to do something, which is bullish.
Still, you could do it as a pairs trade

Would you buy this chart?

>>55209805
What if this guy is the one that actually makes it in the end.

>>55211170
>VIX to 0

Hey basically I'm just gonna short it (the VIX!!)
I know.. UGH I know.. I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that I'm gonna short it is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>55211170
What about the vix paypig anon who is shorting that chart... Technically I think he's shorting future VIX but same thing

>>55211190
He already got the 30% bounce back to near the net cash level.
Not much more you can expect from a failing biotech that's slowly burning said cash.

>>55211218
Wasn't vvix kid a degen hedger?

i need more money for magnets
what is the easiest and best job you can get right now

A ton of reddit tier idiots are going to ape into VIX calls tommorow and we'll have a blood green summer

>>55211170
i bought similar to that chart and got heemed
>>55211202
kek!

>>55211218
He's been shorting since around 19.5 when he started the paypig schtick and front month VIX futures are 15.5 right now. That's $4000 profit. Per contract. Dude is balling.

>>55211291
Good thing i got physical vix.

>>55211361
good thing those get delivered by NSC
which i hold

>>55210718
Anyone?

>>55211410
everything is a meme
you just have to do random things and hope enough of them work out

>>55211410
Is it like TA meme lines where every trader interprets it differently and just moves the goalpost when it doesn't work or "support fails" or it "breaks out of the trend line" or whatever other excuse? Or does supply and demand zones have an agreed upon objective standard set of metrics that is the same for everybody? If it's the latter you might be onto something. If it's the former you should probably move on before you lose all your money

>>55211441
The former is more attractive, because that means more people can fuck it up and other peoples' failures means trade opportunities.
Conversely, if everything is agreed upon, then the market has become efficient and arbitrage removes opportunities.

>>55211441
surely you're not discounting that it is indeed forming the peepeepoopoo pattern

>>55211410
Nuclear is bad, it leads to catastrophic and preventable disasters. You need to buy the Chinese solar panels or go the hand crank generator route.

>>55211455
To clarify, when I say agreed upon I mean is it an objective measurement, e.g. the VIX roll yield, implied versus historical volatility premium. Stuff like that where it is what it is and not up for debate. Conversely, TA is subject to what you had for breakfast whether it's a bull flag, pennant, a channel, on and on. No two traders are going to draw the meme lines the same. Naturally if thousands of people do it everyday some will be successful like monkeys banging on typewriters and producing Shakespeare. What's the case with supply/demand zones? I don't know cuz I've never used them

ATOS gang rise up

>>55211514
One reputable trader I follow on YT (Robb, from Maverick Trading, who I also follow VP/NNFX) who has like 20-30 years experience claims that "it's all just supply and demand", and every TA or other measurement is just an extension of that.
With SD trading, the tldr is that you basically look for 3 unusually tall candles (long or short) which defines a movement. Then you go to a candle just before the movement and set the high/low as a trading range. You can see that happened just after the vertical line on my chart. This is considered a "demand zone" where big players have placed their buy orders and it acts as a sort of natural wall and safe place to buy. At the top of the chart you can see a "supply zone" where it had trouble breaking resistance. This is where you would sell it.
As an extra step, I applied fib levels to the low/high points and found the 0.618 level to coincide with a demand zone, so I think that 5.70 will be a good spot to buy in again

I'm trying to get the jews to give me a heloc as a bridge loan on one property (my dad who is deceased and owned by brother and sister too who need it more, poor condition) so I can improve the one I am living in.

>>55211359
How is he shorting it though? With long puts, or short calls? Short VIX options require too much margin to really load up and make real money so I'm guessing he's long puts of he's up that much per contract. On general principle I don't want to touch VIX options. But I saved a bunch of posts to do my research for the next vix spike. I'll sit this one out, not about to hop on the trade this late in the game

>>55211542
>>55211514
Here's another chart for gold with the same concepts applied, and hold on for a sec

Hmm. End of this month credit card balance will be knocked down to $3,300. Only other "shat happens" thing I gotta do this year is get tires put on the car ($400). Long as its done before winter sets in hey all good so I got time still. 2024 the "shat happens" list is only two things; Get a new dishwasher and buy 6x 18TB drives for my server. (old drives are almost full and well they're old and one's dying. I've got a backup of all data so I'm not worried)

>>55211550
>>55211579
Sweet finance blog my dudes.

>>55211568
>>55211542
>>55211514
Here is the same gold chart with my normal TA trading system on top of it.
Price crossed and closed past the baseline, which generates an entry signal. I have an MA and a RSI as confirmation, which agreed with the signal. This would have been an entry.
Combining this with supply/demand zones seems like it would help keep me focused on only high quality trades, eg using it as another confirmation / volatility / momentum indicator

>>55211579
are you going to get GT tires?

I hope I tricked the algos today. They werent lowering the price of the stock to buy in so I went half-in today. Now theyre going to dump it for sure and I can buy the dip.

>>55211612
Honestly don't know yet. I'll decide that when it gets closer.

>>55211624
clever

Bobos, let me remind you that SPX will never be below 4200 ever again. If you don't hate money you will buy SPX and NVIDIA tomorrow.

Why yes my entire portfolio is NVDA and AMD.

>>55211609
I could easily say RSI < 50 is a sell signal too. The slope of it was looking alright on this one so I agree with it as a buy, but that shit is voodoo, same with MACD. I have seen an RSI of above 70 on the SPY 15 min chart for entire trading sessions. Line go up, line go down, line go sideways. Be right and be fast.

I just play lol, hearthstone, vanilla wow and eve online. All day everyday. How to get out of a rut? Also shakedown after FOMC meeting.

>>55211637
Sell signal.

>>55211654
some guy kept telling me in october than semiconductors are crack and they will go back up immediately, i didnt listen

>>55211629
they have a good stook to load up on around $10 or any less and sell around $13 but strangely do not have any divy at all. might as well just get F instead i reckon.

>>55211663
You can definitely do that, but the key is to be consistent within your own system and backtest it thoroughly. Some people use RSI breaking 30/70 as a signal to enter, then use other TA as a confirmation.
Here I'm doing the opposite - using price action against a baseline as a signal to enter, and using RSI <>50 as a confirmation.
There's also exit indicators you can use as well.
Still, this will help me get a more complete trading system to use as a benchmark that I can then test other indicators against.

>>55211687
>>55211663
Oh, it's also very foolish to use just one indicator. Usually 3-6, which measure different things is the sweet spot. You can have two MAs crossing as a confirmation, for example (the classic being the 20/50 MA for the golden/death cross, for example). But then you also slap on additional layers to hopefully skim off the bad trades.
Nobody wants to enter trades on a ranging market ... though I suppose you could write weekly options to benefit from that.

>>55211704
50 and 200 anon.

>>55211566
He has an actual futures account where he shorts VIX contracts directly. There aren't options on these contracts and they trade all day and night like other futures contracts and each point the VIX goes down the contract makes $1000. You're thinking VIX index options which are related but different in that it is only options. The options get the same tax treatment as futures but they don't trade all night long

>>55211718

>>55211718
EMA or SMA?

let's go oil
if we have another build this week that isn't just the SPR I am probably going to shit myself metaphorically of course

>>55211728
sma=dma also. Ema different i only use the 9ema

My portfolio is about $260k, but I want to make $10k quick. I am interested in employing a Martingale Strategy to achieve this. What are the best bets I can make so that I can chain together one after another until I win?

>>55211743
ngl you're a madman

>>55211609
I see what you're saying. A lot of SD traders use bookmap. A couple of YouTube channels of SD traders are
https://www.youtube.com/@acoull
That's Anne Coulling, one of the OGs of SD trading
Also: https://www.youtube.com/@OptionsMillionaire
This is "Options Millionaire", a disciple of Coulling that live streams SD trading 3 times a week. You might find him interesting but he shills his course.
You stand a better chance with SD and Volume Price Analysis than meme line TA so give it a shot and report back

>>55209742
>>55209810
They really tried to take us down... previously it would have worked

Uranium Kings..... It is our turn

>>55211763
>>55211743
9ema is good for measuring momentum. Anon is probably looking for breakout trades or reversals. It's valid, but I'd prefer more layers to avoid losses.

>>55211767
Will look into watching some of this since it will give me more ideas.

>>55211747
>3.8% gain
Safest way is to buy a treasury and wait a year. With good risk-adjusted gains on short-term trades, you could get this within 2 trades if you have good position sizing and not have to lose your ass

>>55211673
Anons were preaching the SOXL gospel at the bottom of March 2020 too. My kingdom for a time machine

>>55211747
LABU

>>55211747
Maybe sell some bear call spreads on VXX

>>55211785
That's where the 50 and 200 sma come in. idk i want to eliminate too many meme lines.

>>55211687
If it was above 50 would you have not placed the buy order? I don't think so, I think you would have placed it anyway because there was room for it to run still. >>55211704
I look at all the usual SMAs and RSI and bollie bandz and volume at price, and total volume compared to average total volume across multiple times frames and I just use my gut instinct. It's not that serious.

>>55211670
That pic makes me want to play Sim City 4

>>55211720
>You're thinking VIX index options which are related but different in that it is only options. The options get the same tax treatment as futures but they don't trade all night long
Yes that's what I was referring to and have traded once before. Those options are options on the spot VIX index. He shilled VXX shorts too which is an short term vix futures etf or etn, but I have to really do my reading on that shit. Would almost prefer to just do what he's doing with a futures account myself but I don't want to heem myself with access to 24 hour trading

So Saudia Arabia now just owns golf?
How do I profit off this?

>>55211863
It's a slide thread

>>55211790
i bought oil instead. seemed like more of a sure thing

Will COIN beat this case? Armstrong seems rather confident.

>>55211842
Yep, you got it but one little nuance since you're learning and you want to learn this stuff correctly. The underlying for a VIX index option is going to correspond to the VIX future contract with the same expiration date and the option will move like that future much more closely than the VIX itself. An easy way to see evidence of this is look at the option chain for say the September 2023 monthly VIX options and look at which strike price has the highest daily volume. Then look at the September VIX futures contract. The price of the future will line up with the highest volume strike on the options. That's because the September future is the underlying of the September option. Not the spot VIX. Just something to keep in mind because often the different contracts will trade in their own way that doesn't necessarily correspond as expected with spot VIX

>>55211790
Wait you actually believed the SOXLtrannies and other fud?

>>55211817
>If it was above 50 would you have not placed the buy order
No trade.

Some context: I got started with finance 3 years ago in May 2020, and have lost about 20-22% since I started. I had a lot of broad education from watching Rudy from Alpha Investments on YT and reading as much shit on Investopedia as I could. Then I started watching more specific channels. NNFX is great - they do trend trending with TA on forex and other assets on the daily charts, but the real meat of is from the risk management and trade psychology videos.
https://www.youtube.com/@NoNonsenseForex

Anyways, the algorithm he walks you through has a baseline (generates signals), two confirmation indicators (usually zero-cross or two line cross), a volume/volatility indicator, and an exit indicator. When you enter a trade, EVERYTHING has to agree. Yes, you'll miss out on some great entries, but more often than not, being strict about entries will avoid bigger losses too. The idea is that with good management, you'll get a few wins and losses that cancel eachother out, and eventually get a big win that trends for 8, 10, 15% gain, and you'll get them 1-3 times a year per asset that you trade. Avoiding losses is the biggest thing he stresses.

As for trade entries, he has it structured so you only lose 2% of your account per loss. A good exit indicator will prevent you losing that much before it hits your SL. Basically you size positions based on the ATR; at 1.5x ATR you hit your SL, and at 1.0x ATR you sell half and move your SL up to breakeven and let the trend ride.

>>55211863
Buy mid-sized companies that are leaders in their industries and expect them to become consolidated within 5-10 years?

>>55209774
looks like we got another gear to throw this bitch in to

>>55211914
Didn't SOXL 15x between the COVID shilling and the 2022 dump when everything took a shit too. If one had gotten in and managed to get out in time 15x seems pretty nice

>>55211747
Use that 260k to buy land in the metaverse
Get paid rent in cash with Atlas Earth

>>55211924
>Everyone's face the rest of summer

>>55211936
Whatever tf that is it looks dangerous

>>55211915
technical analysis is shilled by youtubers because it's easy to sell their course/program/indicators.

it's a lot harder to sell fundamental analysis because tons of people have done it better than youtube finance bro for nearly 100 years

>>55211953
>>55211936
do you think he needs U.S.A Magnets for that contraption?!?!?!

>>55211590
It's kind a good idea. HELOC loans compliment credit cards fantastically
>Use Credit Card for Benefits
>Tap HELOC loan for lower rate to pay off credit cards
Want a car? No problem if your credit card line is big enough. No need to apply for financing and pay someone else to extend you a line of credit anymore.

>>55211975

I was at the grocery store and saw a really cure worker there. Walked past her incidentally and gave her some intense eye contact like I wanted to punch her. She must have been wringing out her panties in the backroom from getting so wet.

>>55211972
In the case of Alpha Investments, it's just one TCG autist occasionally explaining basic financial concepts
In the case of NNFX, he isn't shilling anything specifically, there's no courses, ads, anything. Just basic production values and him talking about shit in a pretty grounded manner.
I tried watching a few other channels and it's all overproduced shit that tries to hype you up. I agree, it's basically clickbait.

>>55211976
OK.

>>55211906
>look at the option chain for say the September 2023 monthly VIX options and look at which strike price has the highest daily volume. Then look at the September VIX futures contract. The price of the future will line up with the highest volume strike on the options
>That's because the September future is the underlying of the September option. Not the spot VIX
Ok I think you maybe told me this once before on here and that makes sense. Then eventually when those further expirations get closer and become the front month it'll become the spot VIX eventually. I stopped looking at options further out than 1 week for what I'm currently doing. But I basically pick a SPY direction at open and am done by lunch if I have the discipline to not keep pressing buttons out of greed and boredom. Sometimes I get heemed once the volume from the opening bell peters out if I didn't time my entries well enough. Thanks for the info. I'm taking notes. Might have to ask my broker about funding a futures account at some point.

>>55210718
Ive got a supply of balls (mine) your mom is demanding.

>>55211474
>peepeepoopoo pattern
golden bullrun confirmed

>>55212041
golden shower is more like it

wtf is the VIX doing why is this shit so low

>>55212046
kek touché

>>55212041
silver heifer shuffle most likely

>>55212049
Long term mean VIX is 19.97
Long term median is 17.44
>mode is 12
We got a long way to go

>>55212028
I'm justing we all just need more margin
no what I am saying?

>>55211900
>beat this case

undoubtedly, the question is how long will that take.

How euphoric are people on NVDA? I just, this looks so textbook, I just want to buy a leaps put on it

>>55212081
Bill Hwang pls go

>>55212134
Could be easy money or could be like the graveyard of TSLA shorts from 2019. AI is a strong meme and desperate bulls are latching onto it like it's the antidote

>>55209738
I followed your advice I’m up 4% thanks fren

>>55212184
if housing never goes down its time to mortgage max. You can tap up to 85% equity per home. So instead of owning one, own six!

>>55211410
where is the .236? also move the starting point to the lowest low to the left there

>>55212216
>if housing never goes down

>>55212196
I finally traded my way into being able to buy 100 shares of NVDA in my Roth but now that it's pulled back a bit and I'm having success with what I'm currently doing I don't know if I want to buy up here. I was so early on the AI play that I was wrong. But that shit could just keep retard pumping and in my Roth that's exactly what I want. And I'm a schizo that is aware of the possibilities of the tech. What's in their blackbox. They aren't just some gpu company. It's high level military shit. Same with PLTR, but I don't wanna buy up here.

>>55212227
>>55211410
Ah, sorry, I tend to remove it to keep my charts less busy... though it's equivalent to 0.618^2 or 0.618 x 0.382, which is a really cool identity. Golden ratio is neat.
Also, is it from lowest low to highest high? I always thought you just applied it to the trend bottom/high

now the markets are closed
and i'm a bit drunk
if my stocks were graded
i bet that they'd flunk

Is my only option really fat chicks?

>>55212216
If I went this route I could buy a million dollar house in Boca Raton on a golf course with 1% down because as of right now I'm an unsuccessful trader with no other income. And I can access a HELOC on my existing home plus dividends to pay for the mortgage. I don't like debt though. There was a time when it was a disgrace to be in debt.

>>55212196
That said IV on NVDA puts is retarted low right now so if they don't print at least they're cheap. Volatility Risk Premium on SPX is only at the 22nd percentile so IV relative to realized volatility is lower than almost 80% of the time
>>55212273
I'm long term supremely bullish on NVDA. Singularity True Believer AMD I think LLMs are a huge milestone on the way there. The whole bit. If you're holding long term in your IRA then NVDA is an obvious play. I'm a trader though so I'm a bit skittish in the current environment. I'm long QQQ, SPY, and DIA for broad exposure but I'm ready to get out at the drop of a hat as soon as volatility picks up again. Next dip I might go balls deep into SOXL or NVDA just not this round

>>55212307
>Singularity True Believer
>LLMs are a huge milestone on the way there.
See we are on the same page except I think singularity has already been achieved. You as a human are just a biological node on the network, this is quickly becoming a post biological world. The integration of the machine learning with "humans" I think NVDA will play a very important role.
>I'm a trader though so I'm a bit skittish in the current environment
That's where I find myself too. Im 60% MM fund, and the rest is SPY and covered calls on SPY, and a bit of uninvested cash to sell an equivalent amount of cash secured puts so I get a weekly covered short strangle going on SPY. I used to do that shit uncovered in a play account, but I just had my shares called away on Friday and taking the gain that way was quite comfy. I bought back in Monday at open and have sold my weekly short strangle again. I have 2 more puts to sell between now and Friday, but some trading below some moving averages before I sell those. The Roth I just try to make 1 or 2 good trades a day in, which is working out, so I'm with you, I'm waiting for more of a dip. I want in at the pre earnings price at the very least.

>>55212134
They *were* euphoric. But look at GME or TSLA in Jan/Feb 2021. Takes a few days to a few weeks for max euphoria to burn itself out and bagholding reality to settle in.

You can have later echo booms, say from GME's cult/round 2 squeeze meme or Tesla's actual accomplishments & Elon's memeing, but retail FOMO psychology doesn't change.

Also your picture's timescale isn't right (though you could maybe argue 2022's bubble should be written off since it was a curveball from crypto land).

>>55212398
Where do you set your strikes for writing CCs?
I've heard anything from 25 delta, to 1SD, to the breakeven on a straddle

>>55212307
>>55212398
Bear in mind that Cisco routers are currently everywhere. That does not mean CSCO was a smart buy in 2000.

>>55212468
>Also your picture's timescale isn't right
How do you figure? I just zoomed out until it matched the pattern. I believe the asset chart meme to be a fractal in nature, so scale is irrelevant, in that at any time frame (1d, 1m, 1w, 1y) it will manifest itself eventually

>>55212134
We have had 3 different AI boom and busy cycles for a reason. You will not be able to time the short.

>MFW Shifting towards a 50/50 equity-bond mix portfolio

>>55212398
We're on the same page then. I'm long the index ETFs like I mentioned and I also have some iron condors on IWM and some targeted butterfly spreads on VXX as a volatility short. I stay nimble with the iron condor selling and get in and out on 50% stop loss/take profit. Nice thing about small caps right now is they have been crabbing hard for weeks yet the implied volatility has remained a bit higher than the IV on the other indexes. Perfect recipe for iron condors. The heightened IV helps me farm more premium and spread the wings out and thanks to the crabbing price action I haven't stopped out a single time. That and the VXX shorts are basically free money while I wait for whatever shoe to eventually drop. Fun times until robo waifus

>>55212471
I do the 20-30 delta, think I'm short the 431 and the 433 Fri expiration right now. With one more to sell by Friday. And if they want my shares they can have them. And if they want me to buy, I'll buy at 424 and still have 2 more to sell in case of a downward heem. I only feel comfortable doing this on SPY because almost every individual ticker's chart is just a derivative of the SPY chart, not the other way around.

>>55212488
I think you'll find it much more useful to focus on the "NVDA for AI" bubble, which hit the Public/Mania stage in Q2 2023. More precise timing = shorter dated puts = better returns.

Your multiyear scale graph is more to do with "NVDA as a part of the Nasdaq bubble", which you'd get max profit from by playing a different way.

>>55212482
That's a good perspective on it, makes me feel better about not fomoing in like a redditor

>>55212518
>fomoing in like a redditor
>Takes a few days to a few weeks for max euphoria to burn itself out and bagholding reality to settle in.
Pic related is from SwaggyStocks as of today.

It's borderline surreal how useless Zerohedge has become since 2016.

>>55212505
>I only feel comfortable doing this on SPY because almost every individual ticker's chart is just a derivative of the SPY chart, not the other way around.
Oh? That's curious, why do tickers follow the index, when the index is supposed to be the composite?
Or it is a self-fulfilling thing where the index is the "proper" view of the market, so things are expected to trend with it?

>>55212531
A whole bunch of Twitter accounts really stole their niche. From the Ukraine War to Fed Rate Hikes, there is someone publishing better content for free.

i am motivated by pure hatred to make it, this is not ordinary hatred but that which has its beginning or foundation stem from humiliation. i will crush the institutions and hedge funds. bankers and speculators will be skewered upon my erect cock as they fling themselves from the rooftops of their burning skyscrapers. the bones off their children and wives ground to coke powder so that i may insufflate their essence. their dried eyeballs made into jewelry.
we are not the same.

>>55212493
Forgot pic related. It ain't much but it's a living

>>55211609
that rsi sucks fucking ass. its way too smooth you cant see shit. all the squiggles are important also you need zones way more than just 50line
>>55211772
>becomes the biggest jr uranium miner in the world behind you
>>55212276
yeah but that trend clearly started before that at the lower bottom on the left. right you got it, and it just made a lower higher and got rejected off of your upper zone there can it push or will it dump. find out tomorrow on Dragon Ball Z

>>55212493
What makes you go with condors vs short strangles, just like to cap your loss in each direction? And SPYs IV is pretty crappy right now. Not getting much other than grocery money for my strangles but it's still something and then if they want to take my shares it's a decent enough short term gain for me to be ok with just buying back in right away and doing it again. My goal for the rest of the year is just to get back to break even. If I can do that, then I have something, if not than I need to reconsider some things.

>>55212049
Everyone who bought VIX calls are fucking dead now

>>55212525
Still not getting AMD, wanna all in on soxs. AI doesn't really change their business model of make better chips every year, and their price would be 45 is they had a 200 p/e which would still require a lot of sales in gfx cards while student loans are gonna rape spending or crash more banks if they don't pay. What if instead of saving and paying down debt degree baggies racked up more and used it to fomo into ai stocks? And you're telling me nobody will take profit and lock in some bonds when yellen is trying to pay down the debt? Idk inverse reddit all the way

>>55212576
I realize that the RSI is supposed to have a daily / nonsmoothed line and 30/70 zones, but I've been experimenting to use it in other ways.
One thing I find difficult with fib levels is that you have 5 or 6 or 7 different lines and you have no way of knowing for sure which one will get supported or resisted. I suppose that's the same for any S/R line but you get what I mean.

>>55212553
I haven't paid much attention to twitter in quite some time. Don't really know what the people I follow are up to nowadays.
ZH - from the blogspot days to the last years of Obamas second term was a decent resource and their comments section was a great fringe sentiment barometer.
Four years of Trump has turned that site into shit and their comments section into a boomer rage containment zone.
ZH of today bears no resemblance to what it once was.

I’m vibing with the stock but I’m not a huge fan of this run up

>>55212602
Yeah I'd separate AMD from NVDA. First, you'll have the "too clever by half"/hipster bid going at them, second just by the price action today you can see them trade like the rest of SOXX or IWM. Megacaps are the weak gazelle right now.

>>55212525
Alright so I'll be a little more patient then and let that euphoria really settle down
>>55212552
I think it's because of options speculators on the index. I may be schizo about it, but Im 99.9% sure I have personally moved the S&P 500 as MMs gamma hedge against my ridiculous 0 dte option plays. SPY isn't just a collection of 500 individual companies at that point. It's its own thing and the stocks move in tandem with SPY mostly, meaning SPY options goomblers move the entire market. Its a bit of a schizo take, but I'm sticking to it. Prove me wrong.

>>55212552
A lot of it has to do with large institutional traders that make up most of the volume in the market. Notice when NVDA went to the moon after earnings the entire market pumped for days after including the indexes. Even stocks that have absolutely nothing to do with tech got swept up in the buying frenzy. That's just how it works. The algos get set off and they buy/sell everything so a lot of charts start looking the same. Look up "market beta". It's a metric of how correlated every stock is to the market and the market has a beta of 1 with everything else some multiple or fraction of that number. The only broad assets that have low and negative correlation are bonds, gold, real estate, etc. Most stocks are highly correlated to the S&P
>>55212584
>What makes you go with condors vs short strangles, just like to cap your loss?
I would just use stops but really it's capital efficiency. I can do strangles in my TDAmeritrade account but the margin requirements are pretty high
>SPY IV is pretty crappy right now
Yeah, that's mostly why I'm sticking to IWM for the moment. That said, calendar spreads might be worth looking into for SPY. Before expiration they move very similarly to iron condors, the only difference is they are positive vega so if IV does ramp up they benefit from it unlike iron condors. They're much more highly leveraged too so the capital efficiency is there. I'd use a closer stop though. Maybe 25% instead of 50%. If you want a super wide price spread you can do a double condor

>>55212619
I can't, and I don't disagree with you. I've read some literature somewhere that I can't find that said writing otm puts is one of the worst things for MMs to hedge against, and that it can create a negative feedback loop that kills prices.
Besides, most retail traders (I'm talking cryptoniggers and reddit, and probably a good chunk of smg) are too poor to write SPY calls, and the ones that can are not consistently successful and get heemed. If you've got enough of a bankroll or do it consistently, you've probably got enough capital that fucks with people, which can be amusing

>>55212629
*double calendar

>>55212629
I'm actually familiar with beta but not sure how to use it effectively in eg port building or active trading. I've seen it described as both correlation, and as a factor of systemic risk, with some material suggesting that you can make a beta-neutral portfolio to hedge away said risk.
But you could also use it in other ways, like WMT which is 0.5 beta or whatever, making you have reduced exposure to the market, or gambling on a tech shitco which has shit like 2.0+ beta

>>55212564
kick ass, blessed

>>55212606
go draw it on trends that you already know the outcome to in the past. and see which fibs interact with price the most often and in what order

>>55212641
I have a few different strategies I use for my portfolio and I keep a good idea on the beta of each. I try to have each strategy profitable yet be as little correlated with the others as possible. This is not easy to do but my iron condor/calendar strategy has a beta of close to zero, especially when I use TLT and GLD as the underlying. Also my short volatility has low beta. Being diversified such that everything doesn't fall apart simultaneously like it did for a lot of people in 2022 is a lesson well learned

>>55212663
Are you just using beta for keeping them uncorrelated? I just pop things into excel and use the correl() function against closing price.
I know there's other ways to detrend data

>>55212629
>but the margin requirements
So buying those OTM options reduce the margin requirements on the short options. Makes sense.
>calendar spreads
I'll have to reread my natenberg book about all the different spreads and their advantages and disadvantages. I like to keep things simple. At the end of the day you need to not be absolutely wrong on direction no matter what position you open. I have a thing about not holding long options overnight typically. When I first started I skipped dinner and lost sleep over dying over leveraged long positions. Thats why I sell the weeklys, and long 0 dtes. But I'm not holding those longs all day either, I take my green when it's there. That's a pretty shitty feeling too, when they offer you 5% and your greedy ass wants 10% and it just never goes and they only give you that exit chance once. I take it when its there, no questions asked. No regard for what happens after I get out. Green is green. Now sometimes I heem myself jumping back in prematurely, and I guess that's part of the risk of my strategy. But I just feel like I can get that under control. That's just playing with a 1 lot after already making my $1000 for the day. I just need the discipline to actually do it.

i have no idea what futures are like without the futures posters.

>>55212732
>futures

>futures

i feel like shite today, interesting how memories can fuck you up even though they arent even real. but this is a beta way of rationalizing the world and i must simply move past it if i am to realise my vision

>>55212738
>>55212739
ahh thats better now i can sleep comfortably

>>55212674
Yeah pretty much but doing it your way would work just as well. Bear in mind that the right option strategies will be uncorrelated to the market but any equities you buy, no matter how uncorrelated they may seem today, will approach a correlation of one during a crisis. I don't think there is any legitimate argument for any mix of equities that is truly diversified. I would make a blanket statement that once you buy the S&P, there is no further equities diversification possible and trying to find it is just kidding yourself. You can pick from different sectors, blue chips, micro caps, OTC, foreign ADRs, etc. but they will all correlate highly when things go south and things always go south eventually. Just throwing that in there for posterity. I highly suggest learning option trading inside and out. You can set up a strategy that works in high volatility, low volatility, markets going up down and sideways. That's how you diversify in my opinion
>>55212700
>need right on direction
I agree with this. My answer is pretty straightforward. I have a 50% of premium received stop loss/take profit on iron condors and a 25% stop on calendar spreads. I never deviate from this since if a trade scratches I can just open another with fresh money following my rules. The reason for 50% on IC and 25% on calendars is the latter are inherently highly leveraged so the amount you make and lose with the different stop loss percentages actually amounts to a similar dolllar amount. Note too that the stops are a percentage of the potential profit on the trade and not the max loss. I never let an iron condor get out of hand and anywhere near my maximum loss. Risk management is top
Just to carry on a bit, I manage risk on several axes. I never open another option trade with the same strike prices. Never 2 trades with the same underlying (VXX is an exception), if I open one trade while IV percentile is high or low, I wait for an appreciable change. And never same expiration dates

>>55212732
>futures

>>55212632
>writing otm puts is one of the worst things for MMs to hedge against
Let's see here, I sell the MM a put. I'm now long deltas and short gammas. MM is now short deltas and long gammas. He doesn't want to be short so he buys the underlying to be delta neutral. I think what you are getting at is the fact that they are long gamma which causes their hedges to go against the market, so it keeps the market more range bound. Because now as time ticks away or if the market moves upward and that 30 delta put I sold them becomes the 20 delta put, they now have to sell some of their shares they originally bought as a hedge against my original position. So they are selling shares when the market is high, pushing it back down. Keeping it rangebound, which as time ticks away it just becomes less and less likely that those puts go ITM. Vs when they are short gammas the hedge goes with the market which causes big market swings.

>>55212564
Paypigs!

>>55212732
>futures

>>55212732
>futures

>>55212753
>market maker paypigs require correction

>>55212746
My options strategy is basically buy the 80-90 delta option of whichever direction I'm thinking it'll go, and then my stop loss is when that becomes the 20-30 delta, and I stop throwing more money at it once it goes OTM. My strat is the ol' martingale but only to a certain point. It that's where revenge trading heems me sometimes when I don't want to take my L

>>55212746
>I would make a blanket statement that once you buy the S&P, there is no further equities diversification possible and trying to find it is just kidding yourself
That's why I let go of my blackrock advisor who had me bagholding all these international momentum, quality, emerging markets etfs. It's like in what world do those really pump while america fails? It doesn't happen. NATO is NATO.

>>55212746

>>55212788
For what it's worth, I do think Mexico, India, and China are acceptable long-term plays worth having exposure to over the next 10-20 years (respectively in a 3:2:1 ratio for exposure imo)

>>55212746
Equities are just one asset class, there's cash, forex, CFDs, PMs, options, nontraditional assets (art, trading cards), crypto, energy/futures, etc. They all correlate to some degree but some are decoupled more than others. Plus, you can hedge some equity exposure by going short, as in a pairs trade. Eg +SPY/-RUS

How does warren Buffett make money during recession?

>>55212845
he owns whole businesses. Just because a recessions happens doesn't mean they stop turning profits, even if it is a little less profit.

I read an article claiming that because usa got alien tech Lockheed will triple. Wouldn't it be the opposite, because it probably means china and Russia is doing alien tech as well?

>>55212836
I do like gold and bonds in particular for diversification. I don't trade them directly though, only inside an option strategy. Something funny though regarding crypto. I was checking out the long term Bitcoin chart recently and as far back as 2017, almost every single large dip on the SPX had a corresponding large dip in Bitcoin. Was uncanny. Much more correlated than they appear. Basically if your equities take a shit you can count on your Bitcoin taking a shit too. That probably applies less to "shitcoins" like XMR, SHIB, BNB, etc. but that's a whole other ball of wax I don't specialize in and I don't even presume to be able to trade that stuff with any edge

>>55211906
I thought options of futures were able to trade the same times as futures contracts?

>>55212878
I bring up the Bitcoin thing because in my opinion the real value of diversification is to limit drawdowns. Nobody cares about correlation when everything is going up. The Bitcoin chart looks a lot different from the SPX when zoomed out but when you zoom in you do see those dips occur at a lot of the same places and that's the kind of correlation you don't want but it's what you grt

>>55212878
Yeah it's funny, crypto was concepted as "le heckin sticking it to the man" and ended up regulated, centralized, and coupled. Lol, lmao even

>>55210655
A great dividend, wtf are you talking about?

>>55212893
There are options on futures contracts and there are options on indexes. They are similar but not exactly the same. Options on futures trade like futures. All night and day, etc. Options on indexes trade during regular trading hours. Some options trade on almost the same underlying. There are futures options on the e-mini S&P 500. There are also index options on the SPX. Same for the Nadsaq, Dow, Russell, etc. However, VIX options only trade on the index. There are no options on the actual VIX futures contracts themselves. So VIX futures contracts trade all night while VIX index options only trade during regular hours. I realize it's confusing

>>55212576
I'm still here anon, with my DYL shares, and GLO, and FUU and any others. You feel it too don't you

>futures

Someone bake. i won't waste my wisdom at a thread past 300

>>55212916
got it, how unfortunate but makes sense if spy isnt open either over night.
>>55212965
tomorrow and thursday are going to be telling. I really dont know if its about to dump or pump but there is space for big moves

>>55213036