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Should I invest in real estate living in Canada? I make 100k but am a first time buyer and don't have any equity. I looked into getting a house, but it looks untenable without a significant downpayment (400k) or a ridiculous income (350k+).

So I figured, to start off buying a condo then renting it out just to build some equity (I live with my parents).

However, I've been hearing from some people and in niche online areas, that the market is unsustainable and will crash. So.. Doesn't make sense for me to get a 400k condo and a 300k mortgage only to get obliterated when the condo turns into 200k..

I don't want to be the one buying at the top and get left holding the bags, again, this is for an investment as I already have a place to live.

Should I just keep saving, and wait for a couple years, see what happens? I'd get a much better mortgage too, may be able to buy a condo outright without one. May head over to the states and make more money.

Alot of people will say, "what about the 1 mil immigrants a year!", They are all poor.. They aren't the ones buying houses, you need to be atleast a 2nd or 3rd time home buyer, or making 350k+ minimum to afford a place here.. So I don't think that's it.. Honestly have no idea how prices are this high, even with 2nd+ home time buyers, there can't be enough to justify this market.

>> No.55118418

where are you, southern ontario?
trick is to buy somewhere smaller with a strong economy

>> No.55118436

>>55118398
Went to Vancouver. my god, the bug jokes were true. The food prices were true. Even in our nice hotel in a nice part of town there were drug addicts begging me for money. 2/10 would not return.

>> No.55118444

>>55118418
In the gta, since its an investment I'm open to buying anywhere in southern Ontario, but I want to be able to rent it out, so the area needs to be somewhat desirable.
I don't have much equity.. So I'm thinking of just saving till I get to 200-300k. To get a good mortgage or outright buy.

>> No.55118450

Living in Vancouver and have given up on the idea of owning any property.
I will be saving enough to buy a big house on the beach in South Africa and move back as soon as I can.

>> No.55118474

This is genuinely a really tough question to answer, as the financial situation in cuckada is beyond fucking fucked. You're obviously extremely late to real estate and would be buying into a 14yr+ perma bull run housing market right now. On the other end, the mutts just predictably raised their debt ceiling again, and I imagine we'll follow suit with a continuation of hyperinflation, making our monopoly leafbuxx even more shit. It feels like lose-lose regardless of direction

What I'll ask is - does anything about living with your parents suck and limit you? This isn't the same world anymore, where living at home generally meant someone had a few nuts and bolts loose. I'd personally stay at home and save with your 6fig salary. Buying into the worst inflationary G7 real estate now seems imprudent

>> No.55118487

>>55118474
its not tough decision at all. libranos/cons are going to keep importing indians by the million. housing will only go up in value.

>> No.55118493

>>55118398
in greater toronto and greater vancouver its not just poor working class jeets immigrating, there are very wealthy chinese immigrants that can basically afford to buy a house straight up without a mortgage. the market is "unsustainable" in the sense that average working class person can never keep up with that type of wealth, but those type of people arent going to stop moving to greater toronto/vancouver. the federal government already recently changed its laws back so that wealthy chinese can own real estate here again no problem. its highly unlikely you will be left holding the bag with real estate in either of those 2 markets.

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>>55118398
>Alot of people will say, "what about the 1 mil immigrants a year!", They are all poor.. They aren't the ones buying houses

You're wrong here. 3 poojeet families will pool their money together to buy A home. Then once they pay off the mortgage, 2 poojeet families will pool that money to buy ANOTHER home etc. That's how they took over Brampton and priced the white people out.

>> No.55118499

>>55118444
cheapest place that would have security around there is gatineau

>> No.55118508

Leave Canada now. That country is doomed.

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>>55118493
>there are very wealthy chinese immigrants that can basically afford to buy a house straight up without a mortgage

I have noticed this also. In YONGE AND FINCH Toronto, it was Korean now, mostly Korean. Now I hear CHING CHONG when I'm there, there is a flood of mainland Chinese that bought up the condos. The poor Chinese live in Spadina, the old China town in Spadina and Dundas.

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>>55118498
>You're wrong here. 3 poojeet families will pool their money together to buy A home. Then once they pay off the mortgage, 2 poojeet families will pool that money to buy ANOTHER home etc. That's how they took over Brampton and priced the white people out.

The poojeets use this effective jeet strategy to buy up all of Toronto. They first did this in Brampton, now they're New Market (that used to be Chinese), Mississauga. Eventually poojeets will buy up 50% of homes in GTA and rent it out.

Poojeets are nice and all... but they have feces coated hands and they make your subway sandwhiches.

>> No.55118525

>>55118474
No, I'd preferably stay at home. But my parents brought up the idea to me that my money would just be dying in the bank, and to invest in real estate.. But that doesn't seem too great now. Only worry is about getting married to my fiance... Where I would go.
I agree with your points, will most likely stay here in the future and just save up, I have some job opportunities in the states where I can x2 my income (not accounting for cad to usd exchange), so may do that. But will have to move away, and start paying rent +bills, unsure if I'd even save more at that point..
>>55118450
Was also looking forward to starting a family but this fuckery has really dampened that or much hope of owning anything.

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>>55118508
>Leave Canada now. That country is doomed.

Bro... even the jeets are leaving Canada.

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>>55118398
>Should I invest in real estate living in Canada?

Yes. Become a slum lord. Buy a home and rent it out to 30 poojeet students.

It's basically happening in Vancouver and Toronto in real-time. Underclass whites either have help from their parents or shack up 5-6 in 1 house. Underclass pajeets/filipinos/browns put as many as possible into apartments or condos. Quality among service jobs has dropped significantly and no one really gives a fuck to do their job properly. The middle class that can afford to live on their own are usually in relationships in tiny spaces. Most restaurants are understaffed.

>> No.55118557

>>55118530
>>55118508
And go where??? I went back to my 3rd world country last summer, and it was a proper shithole, like literal tyrannical government and military uprising, could get murdered buying groceries.
Europe is even worse than Canada for me in terms of job opportunities and Taxes, same with Australia.

Only viable option is the states, and even that is a shithole in some aspects. least here I don't have to be worried about getting shot in the head going to work. I run at night in my city and have never felt in any danger. Could not imagine having kids in the states and sending them to school everyday.

>> No.55118562

>>55118436
If you can live in North Van and never have to travel across the bridge in rush-hour it's really nice. Kits is pretty nice also. Dating here really fucking sucks though, very fickle women unlike in Quebec

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>>55118513
Colton Boushie was an indian who went into an all White area at 3am and tried to rob an old farmer in his 60s or 70s, who shot this indian dead in self defense because hes old and of course an indian on his property is there to hurt him or criminalize him.
The jury was from the area, people from that area, which happened to be all White. So the jury was all White, and they let the old farmer who defended himself off. Don Martin on CTV took this opportunity to call it "The White Mans Court System" and called for non-Whites to be forced into all court cases even in areas they dont represent, just so that Whites can always be discriminated against and old farmers cant defend themselves like fucking south africa and zimbabwe. Fuck that bitch, I hope she dies. I hope she fucking dies.

>> No.55118571

>>55118557
You understand that the continued outflow of third worlders into western countries will turn those western countries into the same unsafe shitholes those people fled from, right? Why do you think Western countries are safe, magic dirt?

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>>55118398
>Canada

lol, get fucked

>> No.55118586

>>55118571
The issue is, that the third worlders coming here are somewhat educated, competent, and richer, compared to their counterparts back home. They are literally the cream of the crop from there. So going to a third world country would just compound all your problems lol. Like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

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>>55118557
You get the choice between leaving now or not being allowed to leave when you really want to. Just being honest with you.

>> No.55118594

>>55118587
Great band, Stillbirth Machine one of the best metal albums of all time.

>> No.55118607

>>55118487
They're just murdering the housing supply by cranking the migration dial to 11, in that respect you're right, but the organic demand itself remains completely stumped since 2021 due to stagnant wages and hyperinflated cost of living. We're now in a stalemate position where no one is buying, but the few who are buying are competing over scraps with the 80 gorillion new arrivals.

This is quite obviously not sustainable. Trudeau is boasting about his new food bill (apparently soup kitches are a WIN for us) because we're now teetering on the edge of unironic famine from the completely debilitated and dying middle class. The cuckservatives and libs can import however many trillions of jeets they feel like, they can't import affordable groceries, and wages certainly fucking aren't about to catch up to inflation. So they can continue the current game all they like, but they're running out of liquidity to squeeze out of the middle class. We're only inches away from unironic feudalism

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>>55118571
>You understand that the continued outflow of third worlders into western countries will turn those western countries into the same unsafe shitholes those people fled from, right?

Somewhat flawed logic. The MAJORITY of inflow of immigrants into Canada aren't middle eastern war refugees or Africans but rich Chinese and poojeets with college degrees.

But. Canada is looking more third world every day. I don't want to live around poojeets. They have feces coated hands and they own all the Time Hortons / Mcdonalds / Subway making all the food aweful.

>> No.55118617

>>55118580
its over

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>>55118607
>>55118607
>We're only inches away from unironic feudalism

Maybe for poor lazy white people. Indians are thriving in Canada.


Do you enjoy turning on the local news and seeing poojeet newsporter?

Do you like having your burger made by a pojeeta with feces coated hands?

Do you love socializing with poojeets from Mumbai at work?

Do you want a brown girlfriend who looks like she's been dipped in feces?

Then Canada is for you!

By 2050, Canada will be 80% poojeet.

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Canada will be a warning sign to other countries who still have a chance. Canada will be the first to collapse, it wont be Sweden, it wont be Britain or France. Canadians will relive whats happening in South Africa. Reparations looks like expropriation of White land without compensation. White Canadians will flee over the border, everyone will flee the suffering that will infect every area of the country. These Whites will radicalize America, and that will start the second American civil war.

>> No.55118655

>>55118519
>>55118498
I get this, didn't think about that before. But with way prices are now.. Even that scenario is unsustainable. Eventually the amount of people living under a single roof can only be so many, thus the amount of people pooling there money is capped as well, so is the money then. That means prices will eventually reach a point where they will be unaffordable even for people doing this stuff, so there must be a correction..
>>55118607
I agree with this, cost of living is becoming insane.

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>>55118639
>White Canadians will flee over the border, everyone will flee the suffering that will infect every area of the country.

Cringest shit.

Poojeets and Changs are hard workers, they run small biz, they own homes, they pay tax.

Look at the mentally ill and homeless population in Canada, it's all whites or native Indians. Lazy, unintelligent whites that refuse to work.

Your pol/cel/ fantasy will never happen.

>> No.55118669

>>55118586
>the third worlders coming here are somewhat educated, competent, and richer, compared to their counterparts back home
It's observably not stopping the west from terraforming into a miserable shithole. Leaf cities have become 10x more violent in the last few years, so I don't know why you're spouting the old and dated meme that Canada is safe. Certain areas of Toronto are already American city Chimpcaco style of gang warfare with drive-by shootings, muggings, and random stabbings going on a bull run. Taking the top 1% out of the 3rd world into the west will still just make the west the third world. There is no magic dirt, as the other anon mentioned

>> No.55118675

>>55118562
Sure NV is great if your a fan of Iranians.

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>>55118667
You sound pretty sure of yourself, how many books have you read on related subjects I wonder. If the answer is zero do kill yourself immediately.

>> No.55118682

>>55118398
If it sounds like a bird-brained idea then it is a bird-brained idea.

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>>55118669
>It's observably not stopping the west from terraforming into a miserable shithole.

You can blame your WHITE boomer parents and WHITE politicans for designing, voting, and passing laws that enable mass immigrantion :)

desu, once you get over the stench, immigrant indians are nice and friendly. white canadians are annoying and passive aggressive

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>>55118681
You're a fucking annoying white /pol/cel, no wonder you're on the police watch list.

Indians and Chinese will buy up all the land, white males will cry and whine online. Always has been.

desu i admire Indians and Chinese immigrants. they run small business, buy homes, pay taxes. white canadians just whine online about immigrants and jews. pathetic.

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>>55118709
White hating piece of shit comes to Canada to hate the people who made up 97% of the population in 1971, news at 6. If you watch the news youl see what scorched earth looks like.

>> No.55118722

>>55118667
>Lazy, unintelligent whites that refuse to work
You're beating a dead horse, whites have long been declawed. You're gonna get hunted down by Somalians, Haitians, Morroccans and drunk Rez injuns when the rule of law progressively deteriorates. Why are you gabbling on about whites so hard when you probably barely even see any nowadays?
>>55118697
I do. The retards allowed the immigration act of 1988. I don't shed a single tear about the many surging reports of elders getting abused and ignored in retirement homes.
>once you get over the stench
All jokes aside, why don't your kind shower and wear deodorant? WHY?!

>> No.55118729

Just remember you picked a fight for extinction with a people who can abandon this land just as easily as you and you gave no consideration to the implications of that.

>> No.55118733

>>55118719
He's in for a rude awakening when he finds out the demographics of the people who actually hate him are mostly other shades of 3rd worlders. I wish whites were 1/10th as aggressive as these retards ramble about

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>>55118719
I don't hate white people. But you're an annoying piece of shit for blaming anything and anyone BUT yourself. You're the most privileged class in Canada but you still squander your potential. Even the poojeets and CHangs are making more progress in life than you. Look around you. 80% of the homeless population in Canada is white, 20% native Indian.

>> No.55118749

>>55118732
Dont backtrack faggot, it doesnt matter if you do. I hope you do. Tell me how much you hate me, tell me how you laugh when White kids are raped and White guys kill themselves or overdose. I love it. It gets my dick hard. It gets my muscles pumped. Reminds me what Im still alive for.

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>>55118749
Hey man I just got a call but I think it's for you

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>>55118749
Lol. Cringe victim mentality, fitting for a weak white male. Go seek God or medication. Get a job, move out of your mom's basement and get a girlfriend.

>> No.55118773

>>55118436
good tell all your friends it sucks too. dont come back

>> No.55118778

>>55118675
It's still whiter than any other part in Vancouver metro area except maybe wealthier parts of Kits. Also Persians are much better and less annoying than Indian and Chinese, the women hotter also.

>> No.55118786

>>55118770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qy7ZrBa0Dg
You not White, Im not going to sit here and argue if White genocide exists or not with you. Ill just point out the IRA set the benchmark for modern terrorism and the underlying causes which they were fighting against paled in comparison to whats being done to Whites as a whole today, by a foreign people just like the British. How many books have I read, how many documentaries did I watch over the last 15 years which are so extreme theyre now taken down. Far too many to count. In my educated opinion, youre already dead.

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Canadian real restate is great. 100 million poojeets by 2100.

Picrel

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>>55118786
>You not White, Im not going to sit here and argue if White genocide exists or not with you.

I get it. You're a frustrated white male who's spends all day online getting radicalized. You spend all your time thinking brown and Jews are the problem. You blame everyone but yourself. You live in your mom's basement and yell at her for not getting hot pockets.

Unironically get a job and a girlfriend, you mentally ill retard.

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>>55118814
Frame it however you like, gaslighting wont stop a war thats already occurring. A million children were raped in Britain by muslims that jews admitted they let in on numerous occasions. Everything is already set in motion even if youre too ignorant to see it.

>> No.55119950

>>55118398
Whoever yold you its crashing is an idiot, we got 1 million coming in per year and its bot stopping anytime soon because native canadians cant breed for shot. We are buying up townhomes in alberta to prep for the real estate boom considering most of these immigrants will be too poor for ontario or bc

>> No.55119994

>>55118814
By your own logic, I wouldn't antagonize them further.

>> No.55120019

>>55118814
your skin color is like shit, third world low IQ parasite

>> No.55120068

>>55118568
Fucking lel at that pic

>> No.55120079

>>55120019
Whats with the blatant racism? Take that shit back to /pol.

You’re really gonna complain about a group of people who are willing to do brainless dead end jobs for no pay? Better them than you, and better it done than an empty store

>> No.55120094

>>55118580
Michichud reporting in

Port Huron is a dump but Sarnia is also a dump so paying quadruple for real estate just to say you're Canadian is hilarious

Niagara falls Canada at least makes a bit of sense because it's a massive tourist attraction and the Canadian side is much better.

>> No.55120135

>>55118616
Does India and China have good functioning institutions in your opinion?

>> No.55120186

>>55120079
No. They destroy social cohesion and take opportunity away from my less fortunate brothers. Racism is the only morally sustainable position.

>> No.55120192

>>55119950
Why is Calgary so cheap relatively compared to Toronto and Vancouver? It seems like a nicer place too. What's the catch?

>> No.55120406

>>55118616
> With degrees
They are not equivalent to decent western unis

>> No.55120527

>>55120192
Calgary is basically the third best metro area other than Gta and Gva. Ontario and bc are both mild climates which has 1 months of winter tenperatures -10c max, while alberta can hit -30c for 3-4 months out of the year.