/biz/ - Business & Finance

It isn't. dedollarization is happening faster and faster
Gang and Ueda already said, they are going to get rid of their investments in the USA
china has its reasons to get back in the mining game and having thrown out all economic hitman and cowboys

>>55115694
Who's going to stop US?

>>55115694
>(((US)))
Try again!

>>55115694
Nobody in their right mind wants the dollar to fail and the US to default. Quit crying things will be ok

>>55115701
>Gang and Ueda already said, they are going to get rid of their investments in the USA
amundi?

>>55115706
That is my keyword

The USA/EU/UN is a
NEW LIBERAL FASCIST regime
They combined FDR and Hitlers left wing collectivism and replaced
Aryans with Jews
Their goal is to keep individual sovereign right wingers enslaved
while having brainwashed a bunch of tankies with superhero movies into beating up the conservative opposition to the fascists as "antifa".

>>55115717
CA, and SE are going to go down with the sinking Weimerica ship; Asia has no intention to do so

>>55115721
So, you are my favorite liberal fascist guy! :D

>>55115694
Because it's superior. Also the only way to pay off the debt is oppressive taxation which will never happen.
>Spending cuts
lol, hahahhahahahahHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55115694
Debt to who?
What if they ask their money back?
Or to put it more easily, who owns the US?

>>55115778
>to who
to whoever wishes to buy treasury bills

>>55115743
NEW liberal fascist

>>55115778
>Who is controlling the media? HELLO!!!!

>>55115778

>>55115778
The fed is the largest holder of US treasuries by am extreme margin. The US is effectively in debt to its own chartered central bank. As long as dollar demand exist, no one fucking cares.

>>55115809

>>55115808
So roughly one third of the USA is owned by foreign states.
>>55115809
And the rest is owned by literal juden.

ggwp
That place is an economic time bomb ready to pop.

>>55115859
About. And if they dump, which for Japan is a necessity to survive and for China a geo political necessity its Good night america. After being btfo by the russians in a retarded proxy war the likely last step by the US will be nuking Taiwan pre-emptively so china doesnt get its hands on the wafers in Formosa

the IRS got more funding

>>55115882
None of what you said will actually take place. Go outside some more it will help you

>>55115694
Twitter screenshot thread from some redditor faggot. Are you really this pathetic? And this retard your worshipping is some low iq on top of it. How do you subhumans just always manage to stoop to new lows?

>>55115915
>be afraid goy
And? They cant get their hands on private keys

>>55115882
They can't just "dump."
The treasuries they have are either mature or they aren't. Maybe they can drop them on the market, but they'd probably take a big haircut for no good reason.

>>55115923
Afraid? Instead of going outside and waging for shekelstein or goring yourself on drugs, sex and food, you might want to stay in and ready data and use your flesh computer between your ears to think for yourself

>>55115946
>Maybe they can drop them on the market,
That is exactly what is going to happen and what already happens BOJ and PBOC being engaged in open market operations
Yields will moon, and the debt will just moon exponentially

>>55115957
That graph is already going parabolic. Raising that debt ceiling only confirms that they don't intend to ever ever repay their debt.
Which means that when shtf, it will drag the entire world economy with it.

What happens if the world defaults?

>>55115947
>US will nuke taiwan
>think for yourself

Meanwhile in reality GlobalWafers Co. will build a 5 Billion dollar chip plant in texas. You should really practise the thinking part youre kinda bad at it.

>>55115694
because we're good for it

>>55115978
What do you think "the world" is currently doing? At least those with sovereignty left like the BRICS and independent, they try to shield themselves against exactly that scenario.
If you cattle wouldnt go outside all the time and touch grass like some cows; you might have seen that the auctions are a wasteland since February latest.
Nobody wants to take US risk, literally nobody. It is so bad, that your corporate and banking new liberal fascist masters have started advertising/propaganda campaigns to bait fat stupid americans into Money market funds and buying the debt themselves

>>55115994
LOL

>>55115694
>Why is the US allowed to get away with this?
Because you allow it.
No repercussions = more of the same.

>>55116034
This
Those fat bastards sit on so many firearms and ammunition they could easily just take over; their army, their police would be powerless, They coul march into DC, New york, san fran, and just hang them but they are too fat and stupid

>>55116056
Brainwashed, vaxx stats showing it.

>>55116091
IDK, I pity them desu senpai. The average american doesn't deserve what is coming for them, and the entire world could scream at them from the roof tops and yet they have been so brainwashed they would still scream
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH

>>55116100
You need to lighten up, buddy.
It's a beautiful day outside and you're raging on 4chan. I recognize your post all across this board.

>>55116211
>board
try all over the internet

>>55116211
Playing down the shit perpetrated by government in recent years is tantamount to collusion and an attack upon the citizenry. Go fuck yourself Agent Langley McHunterlaptop.

>>55116297
The golems that are aware have either already puked their scroll out after receiving the suppository of truth and do half assed jobs like itt or their bones will be tinder firing the pyres of their masters

>>55115694
Because cuck rightoid faggots will never tax the rich.

>>55116493
>t. tankie beating up conservatives for literal fascists while wearing a superman custom and larping as "antifa"

>>55115706

>>55115738
Despite all the major financial centres in asia being greedy as fuck buying t-bills? Or are they going to dump them and recieve pennies on the dollar for their massively overlevereged portfolios and import based economies?

>>55116551
Greedy, maybe, suicidal, no.
The question is who dumps first; BOJ, there yield curve is free, and they have not much time left, if they get frontrun by the pboc because of formosa, its good night nippon.
If Ueda goes first and Gang fails, china will remain a sweat shop with customers broke, that means back to the 50s.
Its a game theoretical problem, where cooperation means dead

Boomers will complain about Millennials not paying back their loans and then continue to vote in people who do this shit

>>55116682
while their 401ks cant even afford them cat food and millenials work for $100/h while a McChicken goes for $500?

>>55116589
So yeah, the Japs will be the ones pulling the trigger once they're done playing chicken with the chinks.

>>55116589
It's as suicidal to sell them as it is to hold them anon.

>>55116929
Likely. Would be funny, Powell nearly landed the plane with one engine left, half a wing and most of the hull gone, and Ueda just shoots it down seconds before touchdown

Gonna open an 18 year Kuryaoshi and go fuck some japanese whores when that happens

>>55116589
>>55116944
To clarify look at Singapore, Japan, South Korea and China's corporate debt to GDP. Now consider their government debt in addition to that. They can't afford a haircut on their t-bills.

>>55116976
can they afford maturing and praying for the US to not fuck it up further. No. It is going to be extremely painful for everyone, but its about who ends in civil war; and japan sits pretty good to make it

>>55116993
>can they afford maturing and praying for the US to not fuck it up further.
Yes? That's been the MO for decades now. They print far harder than the US in response.

>>55117013
then china or even worst korea or singapore will do it and nippon is done

>>55117038
They're in the same boat, corporate liabilities and debt exceed even the US's debt in those countries. Total debt in SK is 770% of GDP for instance.

>big number scary
me no understand usd

>>55117052
corp debt to gdp is practically an irrelevant metric when it comes to the public order and stability of the currency

>>55117082
...You do know why Park had to resign right? Each country is beholden more to their corporate interests than to the state.

>>55117101
In times of relative public and international stability I agree, but not with the shitshow that has been going on since the latest in 2019, and for everyone to see since 2022

>>55115694
raising debt ceiling = money printing?
coulod you explain to a retard please?

>>55117118
So even though all other economic indicators are signaling that those countries are going to continue like normal, upping USD exposure, increased spending especially in defence (good luck fielding a modern military while stepping on America's toes), perpetual and high inflation etc etc they're going to take a hard haircut as opposed to slowly redeeming or waiting for maturation (which is counterintuitive as they're still actively purchasing new t-bills).

>>55117178
US government is going to borrow another 5 trillion over 2 years to spend, mainly on social security, healthcare and the military.

>>55117197
with the USD shitcoin becoming worth less than reusable toilet paper.

>Paying 36T debt at 5% rate would be almost half of the tax revenue
>1/2 of your taxes is going towards paying off debt that's only growing larger

A country founded over a tax on tea has descended into this

>>55117230
Making deals with lower demons always ends in cruel jokes

>>55115694
Who is going to stop them? No one. Certainly not the laborers getting fucked. Nobody has the balls.

They're priming an economic bomb to blow in anticipating another Dem presidential term. These "debt ceiling deals" only exist to force policies harmful to the longterm wellbeing of the general public and government infrastructure for a fleeting moment of productivity that the legislature can point to as justification for their salaries. The debt ceiling shouldn't exist at all.

>>55117206
it says the debt ceiling will be increased to 36 trillions
By the way borrowing 5 trillions means bonds selling? Where is the money printing?

>>55117178
The explanation isn't complicated, Anon.

>2003
100 dollars = 100 apples

>2013
100 dollars = 50 apples

>2023
100 dollars = 25 apples

If your primary concern is the amount of taxation on your earnings or purchases, you are unconscious cattleslave. Gobermint steals far more from you in """inflation""" than it does by any other means.
>always has been

>>55116505
>payless shoes in the back

>>55116019
boy you certainly flustered someone or group entity really fucking quick with those statements

noted

The bill
will not
pass

>>55117356
The royal part of my bloodline did a deal with Baäl centuries ago, and the bastard that I am renewed it for wisdom and invisibility to fuck those faggots up that fucked my royal bloodline up.

So how much longer you nigs think we have before things start hitting the fan big time? I'm thinking 5-10 years, maybe 15 on the absolute outside.

>>55117563
if there was somewhere in the world superpower wise that wasn't in an "all fucked up or worse" scenario, i would say 3-5.

with that said, shit moves very slowly in life in the government without "action". 10-15 could be early and i wouldnt be surprised. it could be tomorrow and i wouldn't be shocked either

>>55117563
Less. We are in the end game. The more reflection done, the more I think the shiny rockers and powder and brass horders might not so far off

>>55117383
i was also thinking they were going to juice the option market for a couple days with a "they've made a deal", oh no magically deal fell apart!

its gonna be a clown shoe this week

>>55115694
Debt system is a way to ffw through time. By quickly and easily funding ventures, the Vatican could dominate the world and bring in new technologies that would consolidate power.

>>55117622
Also note that by bringing in such huge sums of debt means that only certain key large players could even get in the game. Think of a small ship vs a large ship in the ocean/currency. So the debt system is also a means of control and power.

>>55117630
It's always about control and power among demons. Who controls the biggest most badass legion for the storm at the empty throne.
>The Vatican
Those lack the access to energy

>>55117658
>Ooga booga great satan, le based nippon will slay the USgAy despite relying entirely on them for fiscal controls.

>>55117604
Precisely. I also wouldn't be surprised if we default on Friday, 2 days ahead of yellen's current meme timeline

>>55117671
The amount of butthurt created with simple statements that are not wrong. You made the deal and as every deal it's going to end, looked at it from the outside very funny, not so much fun for those that are the butt of the joke. But your faction had it coming

>>55115701
>dedollarization
lol, lmao even

>>55115721

>>55115694
What are you going to do? Use crypto? Switch to the Yuan. Fucking Rubles? No you will continue to use USD as the global standard like a good boy, stop complaining and get back to work.

>>55117954
Btc is great as currency. Especially for inter national energy trade. Better than having to manage risk with the hyperinflationary shitcoin that is usd, the reusable toilet paper of a dying nation and hegemony

>>55115694
because they have the world reserve currency
quick primer:
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/05/03/de-dollarization-not-a-matter-of-if-but-when/

>>55115694
>how do they keep getting away with it?
Because money isn't really real?

i cant remember a deal being made so far before the actual ceiling date before.

the fact it didnt go to the 25th hour alone is suspect

things are far far worse than they appear and they may not have the flexibility to delay it for a single day

>>55118015
possibly. It could also be that the date we were told was not the actual calculated date, since everything else is a lie anyways.

>>55115778
debt to future selves in the form of society collapsing under the weight of the generational hot potato

>>55118521
/thread

if worst comes to worst, i'm going to move to alaska to my pretty self-sufficient relatives
but it still makes me incredibly depressed to think of what will happen to so many americans who depend on gibs, or who are too helpless to take care of themselves (like nursing homes)
i think i'll be ok but the possible effects make me unironically consider suicide so i dont have to see the country fall apart

>>55115778

>>55118015
Usually doesn't fall next to a holiday anon.

Why tf all world's economy is dependent on usa this really sucks

>>55115778

>>55115694
>inflation only effects consumers
>governement is immune to inflation
/biz/ has some of the dumbest posters on this shitty site

>>55119289
What's debt ceiling I'm too brainlet to understand

>>55115708
Why would they not?
The dollar destabilizes every country it touches, the only people who appreciate it's stronghold are Americans while everyone else suffers

It's a literal poison that too many countries took in because the leaders lived in fear of getting ghadaffi'd

But recently some countries have begun to take a stand and the spiral is sending American politicians into a schizo spiral where they're lashing out on their allies and sending agents to their death

See Myanmar

>>55115796

>>55117268
they will have to pay the bonds back eventually, this form of currency creation will cause a delayed form of inflation.

>>55119335
Anons will never believe what you’re saying is true, it goes far against their beliefs. Americans are literally brainwashed, hell they recite the “Pledge of Allegiance” shit EVERYDAY at school for 12 years of their life.
BRAINWASHED
CUT DICKS
OVERWEIGHT
GENTILES
Who don’t deserve any respect. I say this as an American who’s sick of being surrounded by other fatass Americans

>>55115882
>the likely last step by the US will be nuking Taiwan pre-emptively
Kek I hope so. Taiwanese are some of the most braindead liberal sheep I've ever met. Like all the negative stereotypes of Chinese except without any of the based ethnofascism.

>>55115721
kek it's you again.
>Liberal Fascist
This is an oxymoron you retard. GTFO and back to facebook you dumb boomer zion don cock sucking cunt.

>>55115703
Large economies refusing to deal in US dollars for large trade deals. Inflation only has minimal effects due to the US' global purchasing power. If other countries dump it, the average American worker will have less purchasing power than a chinese factory worker.

>>55116100
Checked but I disagree anon, they DO Deserve it! What coins would you recommend for the upcoming bull. My low cap gem is imgnai

>>55115694
Cuz largest economy and military

This is not an american specific phenomenon.
This is not a capitalist specific phenomenon.
This is not a communist specific phenomenon.
This pheonomenon is a centralzied authority specific phenomenon.
It is the publics job to hold the central authority to account as the authority is supposed to be representatives of their interests.
They cannot, or will not, do this because they lack the resources, will, or have been mislead into believing it is not their job.
It is the central authority's job to hold the private to account.
They cannot, or will not, do this because they lack the resources, will, and incentive to hold the private to account.
It is the private's 'job' to work in their own self interests.
They can, and will, do this because they have the resources, will, and no incentives to behave as the central authority lacks the resources, or will, to hold them to account for any misbehaviour.
As a centralized authority you can only delay the inevitable corruption by the privated because all centralized authorities lack the resources, will, and incentive to prevent the corruption.
This is because the private will always exist somewhere, whether externally or hidden internally.
The private won over five centuries ago. For five centuries they have had the resources and lacked incentives to behave. They have only grown more powerful in that time.
Though i would argue that the very first private was the original winner. As this cycle, and the private's patterns of behaviour, can be seen in the rise and fall of every society to date.
And this pattern of behaviour proved itself to be more effective, and more profitable, than any other.
Now replace private, public and authority with your chosen meme groups.
Maybe call the private sith, the authority jedi, and the public the republic and make three trilogies about it to make a lot of money as a private individual.
I hope this clarifies the past, present, and future, state of this clown world.
Honk honk.

>>55119576
>the authority is supposed to be representatives of the public's interests.

says who?

>>55119445
It's not, but you either know it, or are the one that should move back to wherever.
Also for the nth time yid. NEW liberal. Not liberal. Very very big difference

>>55119597
Latest the principle of enlightenment, but it's something good leadership has been practicing and understanding for millenia. It's what makes the difference between a sovereign that is competent and understands that even if he is a different body from the public/subjects he has a responsibility toward those subjects. The yid never understood that, because the yid is a parasite

>>55119597
>says who
All three parties in every instance of their cooperation throughout history until the eventual corruption by the private.
Even in ancient Egypt, long viewed as a tyrannical and oppressive decandent society (false) the King was considered a shepherd by his people and acted on their behalf.
The people, his flock, would overthrow kings who misbehaved. In the early years at least.
The 'private' in ancient Egypt would be the Priesthood of Amun who, for religious purposes, controlled most of the wealth that flowed into Egypt. (Gold, incenses, gems etc. which were all necessary for daily or annual religious purposes)
This led to repeated coruption of the king, or the bureaucracy under him, by the Amun's for the sole benefit of the Amun's..
Over time the Amun's gave the kings more and more power in the eyes of his flock. Claiming his infallibility with memes like 'the king has the power of The Word, The Word is law and must be obeyed.'
Which seems counterintuitive until you consider that the flock was informed by the Amun's. Thus the Amun's could give him such power then turn around and say to his flock that signs from the Egyptian gods revealed his true nature and falliblity whenever they chose to.
Only the strongest of kings, or queens, could delay this. Either through their deeds, or through the lack of appropriate signs.
E.G Ramses II's inaugeration was met with so many positive signs that the Amun's could not even begin to claim he was not chosen by the gods as their representitive, despite them disliking his choice for a low-blood wife and his subsequent adoption of thirty children who did not share his, or her, blood.
They did try though. The reformation of the cult of aten was most likely their doing but there is little evidence of that. The cult appeared and disappeared when convenient to the Amun priesthood though. Always insinuating the power must be returned to the Amun priesthood for the security of all Egypt.

>>55115708
I, too, have never met anyone that isn’t in their right mind and those that rule over us have America’s best interests at heart.

>>55119728
Much appreciated sir. I still don't trust your faction. But this helps a lot

>>55117967
>btc is a great currency
>fluctuates 20% everyday

>>55119825
>>fluctuates 20% everyday
I wish!

>>55119794
>faction
What is my faction?
I would very much like to be the 'private' but lack the resources currently. That is the only real difference between public and private, resources available to incentivize agendas.
The authority is simply an arbitrator. Centralized or not.
>don't trust
The only solution to the problem. Assume everyone wishes to be the private. And that the private will always act in self interest. They have little incentive to behave otherwise. With exceedingly few exceptions.

>>55119848
"liberal fascist" anon is a schizo, eth ratio pumps killed his brain long time ago.

>>55119848
So you are not aware whose memes you are pushing. The worldwide information network really works in mysterious ways. Could have sworn, that you are part of the larpers behind the king of kings cult, maybe you are just a tool. Anyway the information on the amuns is very useful for me.
>I want to be a yid
Marry one, but there are people that don't strive toward it and have other goals.
>>55119860
New liberal fascists, big difference, and you are just ignorant about powers above your understanding or are trying to deflect. It doesn't matter

>>55119910
I am all into astro bs, mercury retrograd and shiat dudebro, liztard ppl! globalcabalwefroachild

>>55117599
Lots of that is in bonds that will rebound once interest rates go back down

>>55119910
Fascism is in complete opposition to the values of liberalism you goddamn retard. Fascism is all about the collective interest of the people and heroic romanticism. Liberalism is individualism and greed.

>>55119945
dont fuck up this comedy for me!

>>55119945
New liberalism is a perversion of the original ideas of liberalism. It is a form of extreme collectivism. And the order of IOs under yiddish cabalistic principles is inverting and perverting fascism and liberalism to a degree that all the positive from both for the subjects and sovereigns is removed and inverted into only serving the private, the air gods.

>>55119981
Just call them satanists cabal, dont have to overcomplicate it!

>>55115694
It used to be that you had to use the dollar because America would bomb you if you didn't, but people are starting to realize that isn't the case anymore.

>>55119910
>So you are not aware whose memes you are pushing. The worldwide information network really works in mysterious ways. Could have sworn, that you are part of the larpers behind the king of kings cult, maybe you are just a tool.
Absolutism and a logical fallacy. I am not guilty by association. Nor are the ideas you purport to originate from a single source.
Manjy people can have the same idea in a compeltely original fashion.
I am no less, or more, influence by my perception of the world than you.
I am no less capable, or more, than you of exercising free will and thought.
>want to be a yid
The Amun priesthood were not 'yids.' They behaved this way, as 'private' interests.
The wives of sparta were not 'yid.' Yet they behaved this way.
It is not culture specific.
Though i will admit, from my limited knowledge and perception, 'yid culture' specifically employ the mentality in many instances.
But i think this is because it is the winning mentality or the individual. The 'sovereign' as you put it. It is a logical behaviour to act in self itnerest when the benefit outweighs any potential negative.
Your memes about 'collectivist' vs 'sovereign' are just that, memes.
There are no 'collectivists', they are pretending. Like everyone else.
They are all 'sovereign' and will return to that state the moment it is advantageous to them at the cost of the 'collective' who have become the 'public' to their 'private' in rfeerence to my example.
This is why there is also a disproportional amount of lawyers among 'yid.' It is necessary to have the arbitration when everyone is incentivized to act in self-interest.
And why the natural evolution of the three-way relationship between the (in other words) resourceful, resourcless and the arbitrator will be a decentralization of the arbitrator.
Because the resourcful do not have equal resources. So they are divided amongst themselves into the resourceful, effectively resourcless and arbitrator again.

>>55120017
No. That is not precise enough, the new liberal fascist meme is attacking their grift at the root of what gave them power over subjects for 78 years and fucked up the balance between the 4 mystic elements to the benefits of the air element while subjugating all other 3 and ruining stabilizing balance.
>>55120062
I don't think you are guilty of anything, but their are larpers of that cult that have too much time and are present on this website. So I was mistaking and you are not even pushing them but by chance repeated something that made you seem like one of them.
Of course they are just memes, pure semantics to create a reaction.
And no not everyone is sovereign, that is simply wrong. Of course the merchant wants to have the power of the fire and reign over the earth while influencing the water. Only that a misbalance of powers always leads to total shitshows for everybody and that is what we currently can observe happening on this planet. But balance is naturally going to be restored
>Resourceful, resourceless, arbitrator
Interesting concept, thanks

>>55120147
>And no not everyone is sovereign, that is simply wrong.
Perhaps i'm not articulating what i mean correctly.
I do not mean they are behaving as sovereigns currently. Or that they have the mindset right now and operate as such.
They operate as a collective, indisputably.
Albeit with arbitrators between them, and exclusive to them usually, such as lawyers, politicians, religious authorities etc. or what they find personally secure as arbitrators to maintain the collectivist relationships and achieve the collective goal. (removal of external sovereigns)
I mean only that they will resort to sovereign behaviour, within the collective, as soon as there is more incentive to do so than there is to continue relations among the collective.
They are currently incentivized to behave in a collectivist manner, due to the presence of external threats to the collective. (the current sovereigns)
I am not saying they will resort to sovereign behaviour inside the collective before they have eliminated any perceived threats to the collective.
They have more incentive to behave as a collective until the collective is secure from all external threats. (the current sovereigns)
But they will, in my personal opinion and personal logical conclusions, cannibalzie themselves into a new set of collectives and sovereigns within the collective itself as soon as the incentive to maintain relations within the colective are gone. (the current sovereigns are eliminated)
I think it can be seen within collectivist groups in history that had no yid influence, as few of them as there are. As soon as the collectivist power base is secure, the relationships devolve inside the collective as the primary incentive for maintaining them (external sovereigns) has been removed and they can begin the process all over again within.
I think this is how the current collectivist powerbases developed over time and why the natural outcome is eventual sovereignity.
>tl;dr they always cannibalize after securing

>why is the US allowed to get away with this

The dumbass asks after it's been done 72 times before.

>>55120404
This was difficult to articulate as it is a developing view.
I repeated myself too much and the comment was too long.
>natural outcome is eventual sovereignity again for those within the collective until a new collective is formed*
The tl;dr is all you really need.
The current sovereigns only need to survive long enough to witness the cannibilization is what i'm trying to get at.

>>55120429
I got your core message
>>55120404
But the difference between the Amuns, wifes of sparta, Italian merchants... is that we don't just deal with a collective that is a collective by circumstances and episteme, but with a yiddish cabal, a collective that is by blood and faith a collective and unable to ever be sovereign in the original idea of the word, as of those that have privileges and responsibilities to other bodies of the greater collective; They wont cannibalize, they will rather conjure in their own little bubbles afraid to lose the control, the autonomy, and what they understand in their limited mental and cultural capacity as "sovereignty" while riding the world into shit, with the entire outer collective; not giving two shits if it is the end time; because their culture is a doomsday cult, that actually strives toward this in their perverted messianic ideas.

When Charles gave those bastards the bull, he meant it in a good way to give them a piece of sovereignty because of their centuries of scheming and destroying after they lost their home. Hitler tried the same by giving them back their homeland. Both were fools; the yid needs to be eradicated

>>55119728
you seem to know stuff. what are the chances that the Aten cult is what spawned Judaism? after the got rid of the cult where did the Aten followers go? did the leave Egypt towards Judea?

>>55119496
>If other countries dump it,
Except when times get tough they buy into the dollar, not flee it. In fact the dollar has gained strength over the last six years specifically because trading in dollar-y-doos is just good policy.
>refusing to deal in US dollars for large trade deals
There's no reason to ever do this.
>>55115694
Because 90% of the 'debt' is literally just the US loaning money to itself, and countries don't hold debt the way an individual does on top of that.

>>55120665
>There's no reason to ever do this.
Xi, Putin, the Sauds, the Kims, the Mullahs, the South American mestizo kings would back to differ

>>55120677
and I nearly forgot about the forgotten continent, the African tribal lords.
And among the European aristocrats, not the bought and bribed political class, the idea of burning the yiddish empire to the ground gains traction

Can someone explain with a crypto analogy what raising the debt ceiling means?

>>55120704
no. Because crypto is classic single entry, and debt ceiling is only possible under double entry

>>55120677
>Xi
China buys and deals in the dollar, are you high? Who do you think is CHina's largest buyer and seller?
>putin
Putin used US dollars they had in reserve to bribe warlords lmao. Whoopsie now his economy is in the shitter
>the kims, Mullahs, mestizo kings
They literally take gibs from the US to stay alive.

>>55120730
For now, do you think they enjoy that?
Typical judeo-masonic arrogancy. And that in thread with an OP pointing out, that the US is going to die over its debt

Where have all the dollar shitcoin defender gone?

>twitter thread
2 more weeks

>>55121398
>Storm niggers
>Dead meme
You lost the plot
Dead to America

>>55120525
The do cannibalize even right now though.
Look at the various jewish denonimations.
All disagree with each other. Some even outright denying the zionistic belief of a return to israel calaiming that their god has banished them and it is no longer their rightful clay. Some going even further and condemning the roths as false kings and tyrants.
Then along come the rabbi, being their authority, to arbitrate the disagreement. Remind them of the existential threat that is the goyim.
So i fully believe that, in the event of complete takeover, the existing collective will descend into chaos among themselves.
As the zionist agenda is to get every jew back to israel and perceive themselves as the only authority on jews. This will, and does, cause infighting.
As for their eradication, i do not believe it is possible because of their global presence. Any attempt to remove them gobally is the same as attempting to defeat an insurgency. Something which has never been achieved since the ancients could destroy an entire peoples, casting any survivors out into the wilderness and salting their earth.
i.e nuclear war
So, in my mind, the only solution is to create a system of arbitration that is absolutely impartial before any collectivist group, yid, chinese, whatever, can eliminate sovereignity and force the use of this arbitrator by refusing to use any other.

>>55122560
no the only solution is genocide, real this time

>>55120599
> what are the chances that the Aten cult is what spawned Judaism
Extremely likely.
All semitic religions, christianity, islam and judaism are likely spawned from Atenism. All can be paralleled to the Atenistic and Egyptian beliefs. From the virgin birth of Horus, his death and rebirth, the Serpent Set, The Word, the Shepherd and Flock, the firmament, the Ten Commandments, Trinity etc.
Too many to list honestly.
The very first instance of recorded monotheism is Atenism.
>after the got rid of the cult where did the Aten followers go?
They did not ever truly get rid of it. They resurface again later under different kings. Most records got purged because literacy was so low, and under the authority of the priests no less, and architectural work was itself religious leading to the destruction of the original works constructed under Akhenaten(who claimed to be the manifestation of the one god, Aten, and that all the Egyptian gods were simply other manifestations of this one as can be seen by picrel where the one god is the sun and his manifestations are being divided into the world in 'rays of light.')
>did the leave Egypt towards Judea?
The Levantites did leave Egypt. Though not under the circumstances presented in the Exodus narrative and not under Ramses II. It was too early for them and Ramses II was too busy to have participated in these events. Further, Ramses II's reign was long, dying at 90 of arthritis, and an extremely benevolent one for Egyptians. There was no recorded disasters, such as plagues, famines and droughts which appear in the Exodus narrative, though it is possible that records were altered.
In any case, there is no way he could pursue anyone, even on chariot, at that age.
However, if it was indeed Ramses II who 'enslaved' the Levantites, it would not fit with their record of events regardless. As Ramses II invaded the Levant for two reasons:
1) the Levantites were working with the Hittites
2) the Levantites were trading Egyptian slaves

>>55119496
this. burgers will just see chinese stuff getting more and more expensive as the dollar devalues, feds will blame china for raising prices and demonise them for starting a trade war or price war or whatever dumb war come to their mind next.

>>55120665
>because trading in dollar-y-doos is just good policy
more like bad habit

>>55122728
Not sure if jew trying to distract from jews.

>>55121481
Being an esl third worlder should be an automatic permaban

>>55120704
its like an exchange pretending to have 10k bitcoins, but they actually owe you 11k, so they decide they now pretend to have 12k bitcoins

this kind of nonsense is exactly why crypto was invented in the first place

>>55115694
Get away with what? Hyperinflation? It's the same death every fiat currency has.

>>55124058
Americans just are arrogant enough to think this time it is different

>>55115703
BRICS?

>>55119383
>>55119335
>>55115708
China really wanted the USD to not collapse and be able to hold their own affairs as they quietly slide into first place, hence all the propaganda about Multipolarity.
What they are realizing now to their absolute dismay, is that the US is acting terminally retarded, and they have no choice but to take a more exposed role if they don't want the US throwing nukes soon, so now they actually have to displace USD instead of letting it slowly decline and accept the level of instability that is going to arrive.

>>55124085
The US has not the political capital to throw anything. On top its election circus season in mutt land, the administration is weak, non of their policies is well received, and there might be more then one sleeper going Columbine over the next one and a half year.

>>55116012
Medication time.

>>55115703
Satoshi.

>>55124289
https://youtu.be/l-80laFIW9k

>>55124242
Yes, but having the former 1st power now 2nd power failing like a retard as it dies is not good for global stability and so China is now forced to intervene in the middle east and other places.

>>55124621
Of course it is not good for global stability and everyone is going to suffer. But better then the alternative and getting slowly dragged down with the former hegemon that went total late Roman decadency. And on China intervening everywhere, not going to happen, they neither have the military, financial or political capacities to do so, neither has Moscow btw, or any other regional power. The next 100 years are going to be fun, if you are either a mercenary, a smuggler or any other cutthroat. If you are a regular merchant, citizen or transnational corporation, its going to be a bad time

if most of the debt is owned by fed then they jist can stop paying and nothing will happen

>>55124788
>t.12 years of age

>>55115703
Nazi incels from pol

>>55126676
>t.tankie superhero fan larping as anti fa beating up conservatives for literal fascists

>>55116701
I finally make 750$ an hour in 2031
Vauled at 7.50 in 2021 cash

>>55115694
They aren't.
You can't get away with reality, it will always come crashing down on you in the end. All they did was kick a now even bigger can down the road but there's no road left, only cliff edge.

>>55115694
Did anyone think otherwise?

Whilst people continue to use the dollar, the USA will continue to print it like they're Zimbabwe. Hence China, Russia, etc, moving away from the dollar.

>>55115701
>dedollarization
Doritos

>>55124788
Lol.
>Muh MMT!
Is a fake and gay commie idea. Even if the Fed owns the debt, it is in effect money printing, and inflation will be permanently high. Nothing is free and you can't create something from nothing.

>>55128148
Would be a better means of transaction than dollar

>>55126676
Nazi is a racial slur for Germans, but I see no evidence of him being German. He could just as easily be a kike, or a spic, or a nigger.

>>55128238
It is a slur for a left wing collectivist ideology that existed in Germany and a few other European countries between the later 1920s and 1945, arguably still today. National Socialism

our women and wives can't afford not to work. soon our children won't be able to afford not to work. all is going exactly as intended by globo homo.

>>55116505
>Nordstrom & payless in the background
He tried to warn us but they blew the pipes anyway

>>55115694
Now add Chinese debt to the same graph and let's talk

>>55128395

>>55124621
Indeed. One of America's many unique advantages was that the UK did not do this after WW1. Perhaps the first time in history. Indeed, they even went on to quietly give up number two spot on behalf of the jews, handing the USA all of their technology, global infrastructure, and bases in the process, with just a tiny little tantrum at Suez to show for it.

>>55128275
Except there aren't any productive jobs to be done. Proles dropping out of school to serve one another coffees and vapes, and give each shitty tattoos and therapy sessions is hardly going to improve the circumstances of the elite. Although it may, ultimately, function as a useful way to keep the masses distracted, since the great Western experiment of keeping the average retard in education until 22 has failed to achieve anything worthwhile whatsoever.

>>55123783
How am i trying to distract from jews?
Jews didn't exist until after the purported Egyptian Exodus.
They were Levantites, or 'proto-jews', in various city states who worshipped various patron deities of their respective cities, constantly at war with each other and who bent the knee to Hittites while making contradicting promises to Egyptians.
All while being the number one slave traders in the eastern mediterranean, the source of their wealth since they could produce little else and were only a stopping point between Egypt and Greece.
Slave traders who betrayed Egypt because they hoped to pick up the leavings of the Hittites, enslave whoever fled Hittite Egypt after a successful invasion that never happened because Ramses II was Ramses the Great for a reason.
Hittites bent the knee. Libyans bent the knee. Nubians bent the knee. All the the antagonists and instigators, not Egypt, attempting to topple the greatest king Egypt has ever known. Arguably the greatest king in the whole med.
Every invader defeated. Every betrayer branded a criminal under Ma'at and extradited to Egypt for lawful punishment by forced labor for life because their own nations refused, or were incapable of, punishing them.
A just punishment in my opinion for trading Egyptian slaves and then refusing to stop.
A just punishment for declaring war.
A punishment that would is paralleled in modern times.
Basically what i'm saying is they were like this before they were even jews and that everything they believe and propogandize is a fucking lie meant to distract from the fact that they were the little henchmen in this story and Egypt under Ramses II was not the decadent nation advertised by them.
It held no slaves at the time, did not build any pyramids at the time, and ALL the people(native egyptian or not) had a higher quality of life than in any other period of Egyptian history directly because of Ramses II reign.
>>55128238
The racial slur for germans was, and always will be, huns.

>>55128533
Further, as the fucking henchmen who thoguht they could play Hittites against the Egyptians, they also thought they could claim ignorance or impotence.
Ramses II did not allow them to. He punished them and that is likely the source of their endless kvetching about Egypt.
He did not fall for their lies. He was preparing for a Hittite invasion even before asking the Levantites if they would allow Hittites to march through the corridor. He was testing their loyalty and honesty to Egypt who had promised to protect them from Hittites.
With their betrayal he annexed most of their land with the Hittites taking the rest.
Leaving the Levantites homeless, again.
Something that would happen again and again because they never learned.

>>55119317
It's a meme to let a few Congressmen pretend to object to selling the future of our country into debt-slavery for banksters.
>this week: We must be fiscally responsible! Stop inflation! Vote for us! We are trying to fix this!
>next week: Ukraine needs a trillion dollars! You're not a patriot if you don't support the military industrial complex! Cough it up!

>>55128619
Kill them. From the local to the national scale. No mercy, or accept being slaves, debt slaves for the sins of your fathers

>>55115701
China and Japan have no other choice to survive

>>55119940
>once the interest rates go back down
yeah that depends on the people running the fed realizing the inflation we have is demographically driven. Yeah there was definitely a transitory component that pushed it up a couple of years but this was inevitable due to mass retirement of boomers without a suitable replacement generation. There are thousands of people leaving productive work every day who are not being replaced. But those people will still consume, and in fact will probably consume more as they remove money from investments and start spending to finance their standard of living in retirement.

If Jerry P keeps up this "two more weeks to flatten the curve" shit he'll kill us all. But who knows, it could be part of the plan.

>>55130520
Who the fuck is Jerry P

>>55116056
>Americans
>Revolting
Never. They are cattle

>>55115694
They aren't, it's just delayed. What do you think inflation is?

Where is my billion EUR?

bump, somebody really doesn't want this thread to live

>>55133518

>>55115694
So who exactly is going to have to pay this debt? Their great grandkids? How the fuck is this fair? Imagine one day being given a letter that you owe the car dealership $50,000 because your great grandpa bought a car from there decades ago and said "my great grandson will pay for it." How the fuck is this fucking even legal? These fucking baby boomers already extracted all the wealth from the economy, now they are targeting the wealth of the future economy. Fuck these greedy fucks.

>Tfw these boomers live in million dollar homes with a nice car, with second "vacation homes"/cottages and a boat, and have a hefty pension coming in, meanwhile you will work until you die because the pension isn't enough and rent and inflation have made it so you can't save anything

>>55134437
Human sacrifices - parents selling their children for wealth. Only that there aren't enough children born to be sacrificed
>>55117230