/biz/ - Business & Finance

>fut

Is this bullish or bearish for the stock market, financially speaking?

These slut paypig VIX futures market makers need discipline. They will get it

>>55090858
Bullish and based, Biden is correct as usual.

>>55090835
Tick. Tock.

I'm up 87% YTD. Anyone else enjoying the Culling of the Bear?

Cocks in mouths, cocks in asses, cocks in various holes.

They have 6 days to resolve that frisky little debt ceiling. No pressure, take your time.

>>55090845
>QRD
I think the annual budget planning happens every year around september.
that’s when government shutdown happens, which just means the government workers (leeches) don’t get paid.
that’s more than acceptable (unlike a default)—that’s fucking GREAT.

>>55090807
>or abolishing Medicare wholesale
a republican wet dream.

It's literally going to be just fine tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqMkqeFQwA

>>55090889
>On the clock
>But the party don't stop no
>Oh, woah, woah, oh
>Oh, woah, woah, oh

>>55090878
is that from a 4chan app? what are you using?
that looks way more comfy than the web interface

Buy NVIDIA, we're going to $600 per share in the next 3 months.

>>55090835
Mumu after hours check in! How are all the mumus holding up?

>>55090907
Defense pays for itself via extortionate trade deals, and we've got to cut something.

>What if we raise taxes?
lol get real

>>55090835
I’m heemed for like a grand today

>>55090919
Are you a licensed financial advisor?

>>55090907
>or abolishing Medicare wholesale
>a republican wet dream.
It's my wet dream too anon.

Uhhhh I think my stock broke. How do I fix it?

>>55090931
Half a percent of my net worth and a 40 hour paycheck

>>55090930
>aaaa'yo what 'bout dem progaams?

>>55090807
>Debt ceiling is a forced negotiation similar to the government shutdown/yearly budget shenanigans, that's all
but the debt ceiling doesn’t actually have much teeth to it, right? because default is not actually on the table and the republicans probably don’t want a default at least as much as the democrats.

On the other hand, with a shutdown, the government leeches (who obviously vote democrat) are the ones getting burn.
It seems like prolonging a shutdown is just icing on the cake for republicans.

All in BLV for the inevitable debt ceiling hike

>>55090942
Been there. Learned to always have a stop loss before entering a trade.

>>55090942
take the loss and move to something that's winning

>>55090951
>but the debt ceiling doesn’t actually have much teeth to it, right? because default is not actually on the table and the republicans probably don’t want a default at least as much as the democrats.
Oh but *this* time the radical Republicans are far worse, following that nutjob Romney. I mean Trump. They're crazy enough to default!

>>55090930
>What if we raise taxes?
lol wtf, no.
that’s of course the option that the demoshits always reach for and I’m fucking sick of half my money being taken from me to fund all the gibs.
That’s why I want the shutdown so bad.

>>55090959
My biggest fuck up here was that I entered the trade then left because I got busy. Every trade before that I entered it and watched it like a hawk, but I started a new job so I was gone all day. It was down the day I bought it so I held then the days went by and I wasnt paying attention and now this. Otherwise I would have sold it probably the day I bought it for a tiny gain or a tiny loss.
>>55090961
That is 2 months of gains I worked hard to get down the toilet. Im effectively at 0% for the year now. I think it could go to at least 16, maybe even 18, on the next correction.

>>55090942
Just looked at the chart, that dipperino in after hours is fucking brutal.

>>55090951
It doesn't have teeth but you could still bet on our geriatric leadership making a 30 trillion oopsie because they figured the other guy would first

>>55090967
>that nutjob Romney. I mean Trump.
Fucking KEK
>They're crazy enough to default!
well I guess I hope they’re convinced.
McCarthy is doing god’s work to those socialist parasites.

>>55090991
we're going to keep pumping until FOMC because Brandon and McCucky are close to a deal and GOP cucked on defense spending so its over, sell and go into SOXL or TQQQ for a month. Better yet, buy BOIL or IEP (Ichan is going to retaliate against short sellers)

>>55090999
yep, absolutely fucked. its gonna take me another 2 months or more to get back to that. just a stupid trade to be in because im not even against AI. I think the tech is worth it. i guess i just got too comfortable with the crabbing and wasnt staying up to date with everything.

Hmm no deal on the debt and I get paid in just 5 more days. Oh goody. The urge to bag grows stronger as payday gets closer. (What? So uh I'm still gonna pay all my bills,etc so you know what the hell am I gonna do with my left over money anyway)

>>55091018
I was thinking about just getting into BOIL. probably about the right time now.

>>55090917
It's extremely comfy. A little tricky to get setup but once you do nothing else compares. Google for it. Requires TestFlight

>>55090967
>They're crazy enough to default!
Good, retarded dems need to stop burning taxpayer monies.

>>55091029
yeah I snagged a few calls for summer today, might snag a few more tommorow when I cash out of the rest of my SOXL weeklies

What's happening with Capital One?

>>55091044
They racis', so we's shuttin' 'em down

>>55091044
NY shut it down for being racist apparently.

>>55091044
They made a fuck wucky because they're nazi wazis.

>>55091044
>>55091049
>>55091050
>>55091052
It was shut down because they couldn't prove they're not racist. Know the difference, chud.

>>55091049
>>55091050
>>55091052
So wait, the reports of it being for diversity is true?

>>55091062
Yeah, cause they white.

>>55091044
They keep sending me credit card offers so short them

>>55091062
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1685062295539078.webm
I dont care, they're my goto card now.

>>55091050
racist in what way>?

>>55091077
Disgusting levels of whiteness and un-allyship.

>>55091077
>NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York City Banking Commission voted to freeze the city's deposits at Capital One and KeyBank after the banks failed to submit plans on their efforts to root out discrimination.

>City Comptroller Brad Lander joined Mayor Eric Adams and the department of finance to freeze city deposits at the two banks, Landler said in a statement Thursday.

>"Capital One prohibits discrimination and harassment against any applicant, intern, Associate, vendor, contractor, customer, or client on the basis of protected characteristics," the bank said in a statement after the comptroller's announcement.

>>55091031
Mogged by iChan desu

>>55091072
Bro, just credit card churn them, it's literally free money.

>>55091090
>The New York City Banking Commission

Sure is quiet in /smg/ now that all those faggot bears are gone

>>55091092
>>55091031
çjust use your phone's browser???

>>55091101
Exactly why they shouldn't be sending me credit card offers and why you should short them

>>55090942
this you? sorry anon

Tell em the retard said it
He ripped up the "We Card" sign and jetted
You gotta his three card credit
Even though at times he could be hard headed

>>55091104

>>55091105
im starting to believe the bottom really was in october.

>>55090894
>>55091105
>Sure is quiet in /smg/ now that all those faggot bears are gone

>>55091119
what does that have to do with jews? you fucking retard

>>55091111
yea it is. i thought nvda would pump on earnings but jesus fucking christ not like this. i got my head ripped off. i may as well hold just to see what happens. really dont need the money now that i have a nice job.

NVDA is literally propping the market up so gay so fake.

>>55091105
It's been so nice. The absolute heem NVDA gave those dumb fuckers will always bring a smug as hell smile to my face.

>>55091029
Do not even think about it while natgas is above 2 bucks

>>55091107
No? It's objectively worse in the browser on a phone

>>55091126
Who said anything bad about Jews? I sure didn't. I love the Jewish people. Can't get enough of them. They're swell.

>>55091031
can’t figure out how in the fuck to add 4chan as a site or biz

>>55091092
I might try that out

>>55091126
>new york
>banking
>nothing to do with jews
It's possible but it's an educated guess.

I wonder if the 4chan shill brigades will lose their funding during a government shutdown.

>US 30Y up 13 pips
I think it's finally beginning. Buckle up.

>>55091154
Nah just delayed payment.

Fuck bros people are starting to invest in my future and it’s a weird feeling, I’m getting anxiety about letting peoples expectations down. I’m more comfortable with the neet life of having no expectations so I can always beat the expectations comfortably

>>55091115
>three card
When the mark arrives at the Three-card Monte game, it is likely that a number of other players will be seen winning and losing money at the game. The people engaged in playing the game are often shills, confederates of the dealer who pretend to play so as to give the illusion of a straight gambling game.
As the mark watches the game, they are likely to notice that they can follow the queen more easily than the shills seem to be able to, which sets them up to believe that they can win the game.
Eventually, if the mark enters the game, they will be cheated through any number of methods. An example of a simple scheme involves a dealer and two shills:
The dealer and shills act as if they do not know each other. The mark will come upon a game being conducted in a seemingly clandestine manner, perhaps with somebody "looking out" for police. The dealer will be engaged in his role, with the first shill betting money. The first shill may be winning, leading the mark to observe that easy money may be had, or losing, leading the mark to observe that they could beat the game and win money where the first shill is losing it.
While the mark is watching, the second shill, acting as a casual passerby like the mark, will casually engage a mark in conversation regarding the game, commenting on either how easily the first shill is winning or how they are losing money because they cannot win at what appears to the mark to be a simple game. This conversation is engineered to implicitly encourage the mark to play, and it is possible the second shill could resort to outright encouragement.
If the mark does not enter the game, the dealer may claim to see police and will fold up the operation and restart it elsewhere, or will wait for another mark to appear on the scene.

>>55091124
It's okay, you can go back to /pol/ now

>>55091121
There's such a clear uptrend since then, on pretty much everything, that intercepts the previous years-long uptrend it's really not even funny. Bunch of idiots can't even see it.

>>55091133
I was laughing out loud as the earnings report came out. Josh on Trading Fraternity was short NVDA and finally had to admit live that he fucked up. Lmao.

>>55091133
i fucking HATE nvidia because i just know it will keep pumping and pumping making me hate myself so fucking much for not buying a month ago until the very moment i decide to throw some money at it out of pure spite just to tumble all the way back down to 60$
you laughed at me when i posted bears, you laugh at me when i post bulls, you will laugh at me when i eventually start posting bears again
there's no fucking winning this shit man

>>55091128
>i may as well hold just to see what happens. really dont need the money now
This is a cope. It's like getting ganked in eve online and saying "didnt want that ship anyway".

Sit back, think about your position. It may be wise not to panic sell but remember its a leveraged short. Dont let it bleed you out.

>>55091130
Look at the MRVL computer. Barely beat earnings. Say the shibboleth "A.I." Up 16%.

>>55091092
oh fuck, do I really have to pay for that shit on patreon or compile it on some shit to get it to run?

>>55091177
If the mark enters the game, they may be "had" (cheated) by a number of techniques. A common belief is that the operator may let the mark win a couple of bets to suck them in, but this is virtually never true. In a true Monte scam, the mark will never win a single bet, as it is not necessary. There are too many ways for a well-run mob to attract the marks, suck them in, and convince them to put money down.
When the dealer and the shills have taken the mark, a lookout, the dealer, or a shill acting as an observer will claim to have spotted the police. The dealer will quickly pack up the game and disperse along with the shills.

>>55091186
I promise I only laugh at bears, anon. Even when bulls get fucked I feel sympathy for them because they're just trying to make it, meanwhile bears are massive fucking faggots about literally everything.

>>55091197
Yeah the hassle free TestFlight experience requires patreon bux, otherwise you have to compile and install it through the AltStore
Just use Chance if you dont want to pay, it's still a good app

$7k invested in NVDA in 2016/17

>>55091185
You honestly expect me to believe that you saved this image in 2012? >>55090894 Fuck off shill.

I made a killing in NVIDIA this morning once the market opened. The calls I bought Wed afternoon were worth their weight in gold. Bought a 365put expecting a correction and lost 700 bucks. Nothing compared to my gains but still annoying.

>>55091192
selling now would be selling went the pain is the highest, when the euphoria is the highest. i highly doubt im going to get green on this position but i can sell for a better price. hoping for 18 but id cut even as low as 16.

>>55091222
Nice are you going to take profit or do you really think it can hold this valuation?

>Josh on Trading Fraternity

>>55091185
Ya, its because since October, the treasury has been injecting cash into the market, and some hedge funds with inexperience tried to short tech a quarter early causing massive contract blow ups during earnings. We're about to see some fireworks soon. Bears will start to take charge again next quarter.

>>55091246
I've held through multiple 50%+ crashes over the years, no reason to sell now with all these upgrades and momentum. Its become AAPL-tier hold forever

>three weeks until the next cpi and the next chance of inflation hopefully going down

>>55091211
I can’t figure out how to get chance to add 4chan or biz.
No instructions or screenshots on the app download page or the github.

>>55091228
U wot? Some of us have been around a lot longer than you apparently lol. I'd say the person digging through metadata is more likely to be the shill. Fuck am I even shilling? That bears are fucking faggots? Get a grip

>>55091115
Yea the main theme
HEEM by all means
And hair brained schemes

>>55091269
>doesn't know how 4chan filenames work
>claims to be an oldfag

>>55091263
There's plenty of reason to sell lol. You buy back in after those big crashes. Worried about taxes?

>>55091263
thats what I'm learning. Barely down 10% and still thinking 'fuuuuuck"

>>55091234
kick ass
BLESSED

>The schizo who accuses every bull of being a shill and talks about old files is back.
Bullish signal, buying more NVIDIA tomorrow.

the bad guys are winning

>>55091324
>buying more NVIDIA tomorrow.
I don't believe you.

>>55091289
I've been browsing 4chan since 2008 and found out last year filenames are Unix time stamps. Some of us are just retarded

>>55091177
>>55091201
Is the market any different than a game of three card Monty?

>>55091296
>>55091302
when you try to flip/wait for dips you risk missing out on days like today. in my experience i've lost money trying this on other stocks. if you hold long you are guaranteed to never miss days when your stock goes up 25% in one day like today

Futures...

>>55091342
well yes. You have the opportunity to take the same position as the house in a sense. As long as you stay clear of options that is.

>>55091148
It's a convoluted process so the dev can get it on TestFlight. Don't give up scoops, it'll seem easy once you figure it out

I have a feeling that my medium term SPX target of 4350pts (+/- 75pts) might as well reach its upper threshold of 4425pts with relative ease.

>>55091342
>Is the market any different than a game of three card Monty?
It's easier to do something similar with small cap stocks.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pumpanddump.asp

>>55091349
imagine if you DCA the whole time, youd be a millionaire.

>>55091333
how does he do it every time?

>>55091373
not all of the time, but it seems like most of the time.

>>55091324
The fact that you're still here after breaking the law by posting financial advice, while also getting posts you don't like insta-deleted, makes it really obvious that you're working with glowniggers.

>>55091018
>Better yet, buy BOIL or IEP (Ichan is going to retaliate against short sellers)
Here I was thinking IEP was a pretty good play, but if it's attracting the BOIL bros, I'm out.

>>55091349
Today already happened but just keep holding if you want. How did you feel losing unrealized profit when it dropped big previously?

>>55091380
it's enough to really make you think

>>55091356
>As long as you stay clear of options that is.
I don't stay clear though. I'm a 0 dte nigga

>>55091390
innit

Praying for chance

>>55091385
>>55091018
>buy IEP
>buy another Ponzi scheme run by another Jew
wtf

>>55091392
enjoy your casino, you should petition the market maker to send you free drinks

>>55091404
The point is that the ponzi already crashed 70% and now it's trading below actual value, assuming you sold the right puts. IV is insane despite questionable downside remaining.

>>55091420
>free drinks
They owe me at least 10 free waygu ribeye steaks

>>55091328
Won’t last long

>>55091267
Anon, PCE is tomorrow morning.

>>55091404
ichan is going to do a buyback

realistically how much more juice can be squeezed out of semis/nvda/soxl this year? I wanted to add to my position but now its pumped 25%, wont lie im feeling the fomo. this bear market is evaporating and im missing buying opportunities constantly as the market keeps getting jacked up day after day

>>55091430
That you carl?

>>55091268
I just went through the process again>>55091399
on a different iOS device to make sure I still remembered how. All you have to do is open Settings, it'll open a browser window then give you a name to post with. Post in this thread with that name then copy a link to your post back into the text box provided on the page you got the name from then chance will work

Gamestop's revenue was 2.2 billion last quarter.
Nvidia's revenue was 7.2.
Gamestop's market cap is 7.115 billion.
Nvidia's market cap is 939.295 billion.

What if Cohen says "A.I." during the next conference call?

OK, what trades are everyone going to make tomorrow?

>>55091459
shit, I meant open settings then click on the "See more discussion" button

>>55091449
infinite but keep an eye on oil. If we get a commodities spike it is all over. I am semi convinced the middle east wants to cause commidity shocks with oil because the paper market is fake and gay silver cuck style.

>>55091460
Well obviously GME's shares must squeeze to NVDA's price of $380.

>>55091460
>consumer company had inflated sales during the holiday season
shocking

>>55091464
holy shit i'm fucking retarted today. it's "Edit Preferences" from within the settings tab in chance to change over to 4chan. I'm going to bed now

>>55091453
Nah. I'm probably just the sucker sitting down at the table between Hindenburg and Icahn.
But I can't resist the value.

>>55091466
>commodities spike
The vatniks just shut that idea down. 80 is their EoY target and support no additional cuts at the next meeting.

>>55091460
Wouldn't be outrageous. It's a known fact that video games contain AI.

>>55091018
>(Ichan is going to retaliate against short sellers)
It was 50 before the Hindenburg report and now it's 20. It also already bounced from 30 to 38 after the report came out. The only retaliation is going to be against late shorters

>>55091460
before you feel like buying those puts, remember face book had a p/e of 1,280 at one point

>>55091486
Opec will happen soon enough. I think the russians are full of shit beyond the fact they themselves will be refusing to do any cuts because they have a war to fund.

Why is there still a BBBY general?

>>55091500
That's part of it. I feel like you'd have to be retarded to buy IEP puts at this stage vs just shorting shit like CVI directly. Hindenburg already got a really solid win, about the best result you can expect shorting anything outside complete fraud.
I must be missing something.

Dumb these memes down for me.
We going up or down

is there even a bear case anymore? i thought banks failing, cpi, inflation and all the other end of the world shit was gonna drag us to the lowest lows? bears what happened?

>>55090835
Were crashing tomorrow, aren't we?

>>55091544
Nothing has changed, and the bear case remains. Now it's larger after weakening consumer spending, showing a weakening economy. But, I'm sure AI chips will save the day, so buy buy and keep buying.

>Wegovy et. al. force weight loss, fix diabeetus
>PODD collapses
>DXCM does not yet get the memo

Are you gentlemen thinking what I'm thinking?

>>55091562
DXCM makes a lot of stuff

>>55091335
1PBTID

>>55091522
>it's real
lmao

>>55091510
I'm not dumb enough to short NVDA while momentum remains positive, but this comparison is pointless.
There's a difference between a fairly new startup trading at breakeven while revenue grows massively, and a trillion dollar megacap in a relatively mature cyclical industry.

The key issue is that NVDA trades at >30x REVENUE, while selling physical products.
Why not just buy TSM or ASML, the actual monopolies and trading significantly cheaper?

Best thing nvidia could do right now is push out a massive stock offering. Secure themselves $50b+ of hard cash. Initiate some large buyout of something like micron. Learn from tesla and lock in the retard pump for life. They've been gifted this second chance.

>>55091555
Дa

>>55091522
>The real gains were the friends we made along the way
>lmao
Or something like that.

>>55091324
already slurped twice today but this value can't last much longer. you convinced me to slurp some more tomorrow.

>>55090917
I’ve used every 4chan app but in the end I always enjoyed the mobile website more for some reason. Sometimes posts just don’t show properly and with the new captchas a lot of the apps are fucked up.

>>55091555
depends if McCarthy and Biden give another fake signal that they are going to make a deal or not.

>>55091587
>>55091598
I was involved in that play around Jan/Feb and tried to make money buying options on the small runups. That group slowly became unhinged and obsessed, truly cringey, conspiracy, Reddit shit. I just checked on them again and holy shit are they unwell, lmao... file them next to Blockbuster/Sears apes.

>>55091569
Yes. All diabetes related. With right around 70% of revenue in the US this year and last.

>>55090938
Mine includes cutting off social security as well.

There is no way in hell we don't start our way down hard within one week from now with this insane up move. It's yet again one of those parabolic. This close to the debt ceiling? Holy shit they're really going to deny raising it aren't they?

Sold all my soxl weeklies today, still have tqqq, what do I buy? Do I wait a week? Buy what?!?

Is season 3 of Wall Street Warriors still worth watching?
Floor trading, doesn't exist anymore.
And the people featured there mostly blew up I guess.
Dave Battista is now Sosnoff's sidekick but I guess all else are bust.

niggers tongue futures

>>55091628
Why stop there, just have the state take all boomer assets and redistribute them to the workers

>>55091677
>the workers
Anon, that is incredibly racist *and* antisemitic.

I'm going to buy a few more NACP and IZRL shares in response to your vile hate.

>Futures

>>55091663
there isn't floor traders in Chicago?

>>55091652
Debt ceiling "issues" will be resolved by a
>last second miracle agreement
or something of the like.
This will send the stock markets into relief mode and the markets will end up higher somehow.
Short term yields will ease off. Longer term yields will only come down a little bit.
There's at least one more leg up in this ride >>55091364

>>55091689
Pits are closed, aren't they?
Didn't they close them years before the plandemic even?

>>55091701
What's the point of having them in this day and age?

>>55091701
I don't know, there still has to be traders somewhere though right? All the stuff I read/watch has me imagining a group of traders yelling kek

Why are people on biz so hot for crypto? Isn't it the penny stocks of trading?

And just like that, 1 month bonds are back above 6%. :^)

I bought soxs to light money on fire

>>55091723
Where'd you get a pic of me in front of my workstation?

>>55091723
Is it worth getting?

>>55091701
Yes, that's what Floored is about, some of the last traders.

>>55091714
Live and feeder cattle traders were the last ones IIRC. Course you try getting a bunch of rich, besuited guys to physically show up in downtown Chicago nowadays.

>>55091539
Bump

>>55091721
/biz/ was founded as a crypto board/containment zone. We are on stolen cryptofag land and acknowledge that every thread.

>>55091613
They already did. They still dobt have an actual number nor do they have agreeance on what gets cut. They quite literally are running out of time to get this through government in time.

Being attracted to femboys isn't gay.
This is financial advice.

>>55091721
penny pumps and shitcoin pumps are different orders of magnitude. Like 1000% vs %100000

>>55091721
i just use barely enough of it as a way of keeping my HOOD wave running 24/7. my amount just keeps the pennies flipping around some and the live lines in constant motion. i figure most of the rest of /biz/ is trying to find a make it coin or debate who has the best "smart coontracts" or whatever.

>>55091723
Good golly. Without context you'd think we merged with Venezuela.

>>55091735
Yes, if you have cash that's going to sit in a money market fund until one of the default dates. Buying one of the spicy t-bills directly can bump your (annual) return up from 5% to 6 or 7% or whatever. That's an extra, say, tenth of a percent, in exchange for risking the minor inconvenience of the treasury paying you back a day late.

>>55091713
This. The pictures of the NYSE floor grandpa are photo ops anyway.
>>55091714
Yeah, in front of computer screens.
I have a hard time imagining that "trading desks" at banks even have telephones any longer.
Dealing verbally has been erased almost entirely I imagine.
>>55091739
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1326220/
That one?

>>55091729
Remote viewing, anon.

>>55091735
Sure thing dude, I hear Yellen is really loaded with cash these days lmao.

>>55091544
Higher for longer. More money into MM funds as a result.

Traditionally energy, precious metals, and agriculture counts as commodity. I understand the first two, but how do I invest in agriculture?

>>55091769
fertilizer?

>>55091762
>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1326220/
That's the one. It's on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--H8SY334Zw

>>55091753
Traps are gay and have AIDS. This is financial advice.

>>55091735
You'll have to wait until maturity to guarantee you get all your money back. I just hold BIL (and CBIL for Leaf money) instead of cash. They don't have as high of a yield but you can sell them any time for a predictable price.

>>55091775
Nice!
Thank you, anon.

>>55091735
6%/12=0.5% at maturity
You need lots of money and to accept the possibility that your money is gonna be at least late

>>55091769
Futures is the best way. But there is also the Breakfast ETF BRKY but I can't recommend it.

>>55091760
based free money hyper inflationary debt ridden government

>>55091769
If you're serious? A futures account. If you're lazy? There are ETFs like DBA, CORN, WEAT, JO, etc.

There are also fertilizer plays like >>55091773 mentioned (CF, UAN, IPI, etc) and ag processors/related company stocks (BG, DE, ADM, etc).

>>55091769
https://www.dummies.com/article/business-careers-money/personal-finance/investing/investment-vehicles/commodities/how-to-trade-in-lean-hogs-on-the-commodities-market-176494/

>>55091769
REITs on farmlands, futures for commodities themselves price speculation, the companies that provide capital goods like tractors, or the downwind people like tyson

>>55091785
>BRKY
Damn, that takes me back.

>>55091786
Check the holdings, but it's possible something like BIL is pussying out. The yield might be driven down to like 3% if they're crowding into the zero default risk maturities.

>>55091794
>REITs on farmlands
Any exist that aren't terrible longterm returns?

>>55091785
>BRKY
I think it was delisted.

>>55091785
oh damn, they closed BRKY down

>>55091778
>>55091783
Sounds like investing in GIC is easier and gives almost same?

>>55091786
Nice I have BIL as well.

i miss floor trading so much bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHawmZbapjU

>>55091803
>LAND is literally losing money

>>55091803
I dont know. Just giving you the ways to play it.

The King of the Jews must not be at the mercy of his passions, and especially of sensuality: on no side of his character must he give brute instincts power over his mind. Sensuality worse than all else disorganizes the capacities of the mind and clearness of views, distracting the thoughts to the worst and most brutal side of human activity.

The prop of humanity in the person of the supreme lord of all the world of the holy seed of David must sacrifice to his people all personal inclinations. Our supreme lord must be of an exemplary irreproachability.

>>55091808
The idea is that after you close your trade you rotate into BIL or CBIL. When you're ready to buy again you sell BIL/CBIL and open a new trade and so on.

Ive been looking at these small cap shipping companies, they got insane earnings and divs like 15%
no not ZIM

So when is the next AI hype stock earnings?

>>55091785
>>55091787
Have you ever tried agriculture futures? I wonder if you have to know a lot about farming to not mess up.

I'll study it, thanks for the info

Bobo hoped and prayed for the big crash and is read got a bubble in AI

>>55091833
Might by GRIN soon. Looks like easy money.

What's stopping me from getting a small business loan for $100k, taking out an aggressive amount of GICs and treasuries, then repaying everything just days before my loans start bearing interest? Seems like a risk free way to get $200 a month

Read another hentai doujin. Why? Cause fuck i'm bored. Anyway this is a Christmas themed one. Dude moves into an apt. Doorbell rings. He finds a hot babe wearing a santa robe and not much else. Seems she was gonna surprise the previous tenant with a christmas "surprise". She calls her boyfriend. Gets a message "I broke up with you, I also moved out, goodbye". So yeah. Since she's now "free" and since she's almost naked anyway she and the new apt tenant make the most of it and fuck the night away.

>>55091833
We're coming off an extremely profitable time for shippers, so yes they were all awash with cash.

The future outlook, eh. Look at BDRY or Shanghai container rates.

ARE WE GOING UP OR DOWN

>>55091839
>I wonder if you have to know a lot about farming to not mess up.
Yes. That is exactly what you should know. It's betting on weather, competing crops, fertilizer usage, geopolitics, sometimes factors on opposite sides of the world from one another.

That said, how about that corn and wheat, huh? Drought should cause them to turn around.

>>55091842
What's your time rate? You buying LEAPS? 185DTEs? Or just straight shares?

>>55091841
>back to low effort ESL samefagging because you got BTFO

>futes

>>55091839
no, I don't trade stuff with expiration dates as I am a bagholder at heart. One anon who does basically just looks for things at historical lows and buys them supposedly.

Where is the UONE pump?

Also debt ceiling is a nothingburger, the real crash will happen 4-6 months from now

>>55091853

>>55091872
Honestly, I'm waiting for the June 16 quad witching. There's usually a dump around every March, June and September quad witching.

>>55091816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--H8SY334Zw

>>55091893
That's usually when I do my quarterly audit. Had about 50k net worth last time. Holiday bonuses barely moved it because I had so much drawdown on other shit.
Not entirely sure why there's a dump, is it because they're trying to prevent being assigned? I thought it was just generally high volume. I suppose the dump would precede it, rather than be days before.

>>55091777
CHECKED HOLY TRIPS OF TRUTH

>>55091860
Shares. I have no timeframe, but there was a previously motivated buyer at $21. Bulk rates are dogshit right now, but eventually it'll turn. Wouldn't be surprised if they come back to the table to pick up the rest.
The type of position to just sit on for a year and see what happens.

>>55091922
>I suppose the dump would precede it
That's how it's been during the last 3 years. The biggest dumps preceded the quad witching days (other than in December) or US election days.

>>55091384
Meds, schizo.

>>55091843
Your loan will be 8%

>be me
>know nothing about technology
>know nothing about the stock market
>fap to shota daily
>hear about AI generated porn
>immediately download Stable Diffusion and fap to AI shota
>use chatbots to talk to AI shotas
>invest $3000 in NVDA because of shota
>up to $7600 now
Being a degenerate shotachad pays

>>55091828
Leaf here. So you be sayin I should hold CBIL whenever I am not actively trading? Is this better than bagholding stocks?

Has IEP reached bottom yet?
I read that Hindenburg report doesn't really point out anything new, but the issue is that Icahn is low on cash, got debt, and hasn't made a good investment for a long time. It's not a ponzi since he owns 85% and can cover divs in cash.

If that's the case I could take the risk and get some cheap units and hope he turns it around in a year. But if he's already broke then these shares will tank even more.

It would feel wierd if a guy like Icahn goes out like this after all those years of investment.

>>55092009
>to AI shota
And of course you're describing fictional 2D shota, yes?

GRND pamp in June?

>>55092009
The day shoota saved the American economy

The mailman slid a postcard under the rock I've been living in about an "AMC settlement" and I have no idea whether to support it or object to it.

>>55092013
I try to swing trade ETFs I think/hope are more rangebound and predictable (unlike SPY or other entire market indices). Right now I'm 97% in BIL and CBIL. Interactive Brokers isn't showing UBIL for me btw. There are also a lot of high savings ETFs in CAD and USD on TSE which I used before but I always wonder what would happen if people try to redeem them in large numbers in a single day while the money is in some Canadian bank account.

>>55091984
>>55090919
>Buy NVIDIA, we're going to $600 per share in the next 3 months.
If the faggot glownigger mods that run this site had any sense of integrity, they would send your info to the SEC for offering financial advice. You're naming a price target and deliberately instructing others to buy based on that price target. That's against the law, faggot.

>>55092026
Of course, officer

>>55091775
>>55091816
Fuck the pits. There's a new pit. And I'm in there like swimwear baby

>>55092016
>I read that Hindenburg report doesn't really point out anything new
That doesn't mean it was false, nor will shares magically trade back to $50 as investors realize this report wasn't "news". Sometimes it just takes a spark to set things off.
But yeah I think it's pretty near the bottom. No reason to trade significantly below NAV unless they stop the divvy or the underlying businesses crash.

>>55091689
I think they have physical vix delivery there

>>55091786
BIL gang

NVDA using AI hype to hide declining GPU sales. Reminder that over 70% of earnings projections are wrong.

What is the name of that skinny dego on YouTube that does market wrap-ups?

>>55091794
PDBA MOO

>>55092037
Ask ChatGPT to write you a 40 page legal brief full of schizo shit and submit it to the court.

>>55092016
To me the fact that it went down like crazy after an Ackman tweet shows it's reached irrational lows. Everyone knows Ackman has a 20-year long grudge with Icahn and got his ass handed to him, I'm amazed people still take what he says at face value from all the garbage he's said in the past 5 years.

>>55092072
I think I'll dip my toe in it and get 2-3% of my portfolio in IEP. If it doesn't collapses I can see it rebound to 30 in a year or two.

>>55092088
fwiw they almost always beat earnings except for a few quarters ago. nobody know how much dumb money is still out there buying denim jeans to go lookin' f'r gold in dem der hills when talking about enterprise.
still, they NEED china to not shit the bed and basically they're going through a near depression right now with a massive surge in homelessness and joblessness. they tried everything to suture the economy back together after 0covid but it still sucks. even if jensen has the order list right in front of him saying he'll get his 11B revenue target, that doesn't mean orders won't get cancelled due to sudden layoffs and closed projects like oppo cancelling their homebrew chip design a couple weeks ago

How can I invest in wires?

>>55092009
>>55092060
So uh, can you make /ss/ with this AI technology? Asking for a friend.

>>55092127
You mean fibre optic or copper?

>>55092051
Lmao get a load of this fucktard

>>55092103
Makes me wonder if Ackman really isn't shorting it himself.

>>55092143
Cables

>>55091861
>he cannot stop replying
Go lose more of your money brokie lmao

>>55092134
Yeah but it gets boring fast
Current tech is extremely limited in the range of what it can generate even if it looks fancy

>our girl is a smoker
>long tobacco

>>55092195
>our girl

Does anyone want to start a YT channel with me about investing? I think Rocker has abdicated his position, so there's a vacuum in the market for high quality schizo market ranting

>>55092124
>even if jensen has the order list right in front of him saying he'll get his 11B revenue target
So what was the deal with him getting a pay cut? Was that the ruse? Slowing sales and insane record revenue projectin? wtf?

>>55092037
If it's free money don't ask why you're getting it just say yes.

>>55092204
>always has been
>always will be

>>55092245
>moonwalking on a wood floor with socks on

>>55092030
>"CDC is collaborating with the Chicago Department of Health to investigate this cluster and specifically looking into why we are seeing more vaccinated cases than expected," Braden noted.

>Other mutations have been seen in the virus that causes mpox, according to the CDC. Some strains of the monkeyp*x virus also showed signs of resistance to the antiviral drug tecovirimat (TPOXX), the CDC noted in a study that has not yet been peer-reviewed.

Not sure about GRND but imagine the tragedy of having to throw out all those existing vaccines or drugs and rebuy new ones. A government restocking contract surely made urgent by Pride month.

>>55092040
The company that sponsors CBIL (Horizon ETFs) has lots of ETFs that I already use, usually the 2x leveraged ones for oil and natty gas

>>55092094
Are you referring to Gregory Mannarino-san?

>>55090835
Considering that the stock market is the primary investing vehicle for most people. And that the subject is relegated to a poorly moderated general says that this board is shit and should be nuked from obit. I stop by /biz/ once in a while but it's only for entertainment purposes. 90% of the posters on this board have minimal savings. 80% yolo their money into some meme. And probably about half are NEETs.

I have a decent full time job that pays good salary. I'm interested in dividend investing so I can retire early and pursue other hobbies and perhaps some business ideas. But the little time you anons devote to the stock market goes to meme stocks like GME and BBY which will never pay off

>>55092233
i don't know ive only recently started doing DD on nvda and i suspect a lot of people with a lot of money are starting to do that too. if even ARKK slept on them then imagine everyone else who literally just bought in because of fomo due to staying underweight in tech since it got heemed last year

>>55092288
is that human cigarette Gregory Mannarino?

>>55092297
The Brooklyn coke goblin?

>>55092263
>flirting with a food truck worker

>>55092294
no one here talks about gme or bbby(q). everyone here knows about jepi for divvies. now fuck off with your wage-rage

How do I invest in self-love? I hate myself.

>>55091816
>7:20
>australian internet

>>55092308
>a girl smiling and having a good time is flirting
incel detected

>>55092294
>I'm interested in dividend investing
The best advice anyone here can give you about that is that dividends are a meme. You want fairly priced, good businesses that generate free cash flow. Whether they pay that cash as a dividend, sit on it, or use it for buybacks, the result's roughly the same.

Just buying a dying business because "omg, it's cheaper and the divvy yield is now higher!" is an express train to heemtown.

>>55092310
Lmk when you figure it out. I hate myself too

>>55092309
JEPI is also a meme. Many REITs are undervalued by the market right now. And so are BDCs

>>55092308
That Mexican tranny is my side piece when I'm not with Miko or scoopsies. Please refrain from posting any of her content. Thanks in advance.

>>55092319
>dividends are a meme
Dividends are the basis of value. Without a dividend you're just speculating. You're just playing the greater fool until you eventually lose. Half of you are whining about being down this year while I'm still positive.

>>55092147
>>55092162
Cope harder, shills.

>>55092310
Poem anon is that you?

>>55092333
No, free cash flow that the company generates is the basis of value. If they spend that cash buying back shares to double the share price, that's just as good as them paying you a 100% dividend.

In fact, it's better because buybacks let you time when you want to cash out of the business.

>>55092318
>posting that whore
>calling other people incels

>>55092342
go back to /tv/ faggot

>>55092310
>How do I invest in self-love?
You can't. You're already morally bankrupt.

>>55092338
No this one is me >>55092320

>>55092342
Damn, that's a strong jaw.

>>55092332
lol When are we getting a new video Rocker chan? And anything new going on in your life? Still working with (wrangling) zoomie retards?

>>55092363
Why are you so down on yourself poem anon? You are unironically a richfag. You can buy any variety of college age hooker you want. You need to link up with that degenerate Twink scoopsies. He can show you the way.

>>55092367
I'd like to make one this weekend but I didn't have time to take notes on the general because I was really busy with work. I might make an off the cuff update though.

What’s it going to take for oil to go up

>>55092340
>In fact, it's better because buybacks let you time when you want to cash out of the business.
huh? I think the main difference might be in tax efficiency in some countries but the Canadian government is wising up to it. Also stock buybacks make the line go up which affects perception and algos so it might disproportionately make the line go up.

>yields

>>55092401
Another war in another oil producing nation
>>55092376
Because I'm a loser with no friends and nothing going on in my life, and I know I'm too pathetic to do anything about it

>>55092425
Enough with the negative talk. I'm your friend and I'm a top 10 e-celeb, and that makes you a part of my exclusive inner circle.

>>55092402
True. The US also has some nominal 1% tax on buybacks, and management may or may not be shit about timing when they do buybacks.

But the point is that if you only focused on "ooh, divvy yield!" you'd probably stumble into dividend traps like ZIM and hurt your portfolio same as a SOXL degen.

>>55092294
What is your top 3 picks in your current portfolio?

there is literally nothing good to buy. all the good shit is pumped to infinity

>>55092310
Flesh light

>>55092288
holy kek
checked
someone saved it
you rock, anon

>>55092441
Wait wtf is going on here?

>>55092463
You can buy the generational low on NVDS

>Cathie Wood sold NVDA at the bottom last year
kek

>>55092494
Boom times for shipping resulted in tons of spare cash (this is the sort of thing you should focus on as an investor), ZIM immediately shelled all that money out as dividends rather than buybacks, investing in their fleet, or even long term sustainable payouts.

Think "black dude with a reparations check makes it rain at a strip club"

>>55092463
I'm eyeing BAC pretty hard

Just so you guys know, the Market is going to All Time highs

>>55092494
>stock pays $20 in divs
>stock trades down from $30 to $14
Pretty simple, really.

>>55092539
>>55092539
>>55092539
>>55092539

>>55092511

>>55092441
Nobody said the focus was ok dividend yield

knee-grows

>>55092511
>black dude
Sir we say nigger here

>>55092819
Nah, if you say that instead of nigga, the system flags you as "not black" and California won't send you a reparations check.