/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55062545
If you hate money, buy either, buy both, doesn’t matter
It’s over for crypto that isn’t BTC

>>55062559
Okay but assuming there'll be more alt rallies, which one should I get some of

>>55062814
As someone who owned both, neither.

100% algo, do NOT buy (s)h(it)bar

>>55062886
>>55062916
Why

>>55062916

>>55063086
kek, that's kinda embarrassing.

>>55063086
TPS is great but I'm not sure that'll necessarily make it a better investment?

MAMI

>>55063131
Very
>>55063180
One is being adopted, the other is not (and run by a tranny)

>>55063234
Hmm, hard to argue with that

but with either hbar or algo, the fees are so low that adoption doesn't necessarily pump the price, right?

>>55063322
Nothing will pump the price on either

>>55063322
Depends on the adoption

>>55062545
Hype will pump the price (for now), once mastercard visa spacex Wallmart etc join the hedera governing council.
>HBAR is better than algo

>>55063656
the governing council already look pretty impressive. google, ibm, lg, dell, etc.

doesn't seem to generate much hype

Here's a quick rundown on Hedera OP.
They pay companies to be on their council.
The companies don't even need to attend council meetings to get paid
They give atma an unlimited supply of free hbar to get a high TPS
Atma already mentioned that they will never buy hbar themselves.

Hedera gives enterprise free shit at the expense of their holders. Its the only crypto you should never even consider buying

>>55063180
>investment
You mean degen moon pump then dump.
No. It wont.

>>55062545
Hbrothers in this thread, I have a question :

Is OP trolling ? Like, let's cut the shit, I'm 100 % honest right now :
Are there people on this board that looked at what Hedera is doing and can't tell the difference between that, Algorand, Eth or Avalanche ?

I personally dived so much into Hbar that I feel like I know a lot, from the Starbucks talks to the MaxWilliams interviews, but to realize that some people in this autistic lair can't even DYOR at this level and understand why Hbar will win...
Are we THAT early ?

>>55064068
>They give atma an unlimited supply of free hbar to get a high TPS
is this what's generating the bulk of the hundreds of tps on hbar mainnet?

where can i read that they get paid so much?

>>55064138
yeah i mean getting some good returns on my money relative to the rest of the market

>>55064149
refer to >>55064068
some of us have been here long enough to know these sponsored "partnerships" are an eye roll

>>55062545
Neither
Go with something that isn't shilled here 24/7

>>55064223
the other anon is joking.
Avery Dennison generates $100k/mo currently for Hedera.
council members aren't paid to be on the council, but anyone can apply for a grant.
after the new year, only businesses that are actively developing on Hedera are allowed to be admitted to the council.
I think there was a huge use-case they planned to brag about over the weekend, the test bet was running double tps the mainnet at a little shy of 3k tps total.
ALGO is pretty much for real a ghost chain now, whereas hedera is well aligned with the US govt/EU/WEF.
Of you are seriously asking for advice, it's a no-brainer, HBAG is the clear winner.
'huge news' has almost no noticeable price appreciation though because it's tokenomics suck balls.
anyways, HBAG price target $2.67 - $2.94 this run.
ALGO was a good coin with good tech and performance wise, was pretty close especially given it's block chain, buts it's completely dead while hederas development is exploding.
soon enough, Tesla will be using Hedera for battery passports.
Musk tweeted an HBAR symbol back in February.

>>55064768
>'huge news' has almost no noticeable price appreciation though because it's tokenomics suck balls.
it doesn't seem like a good investment then

>Musk tweeted an HBAR symbol back in February.
cmon man, this is pure hopium lmao

>>55062545
They are both shitty. They are both dumping. They are both similar indeed.

>>55062545
The rope is the better option

>>55063226
lol which one of you did this

>>55064933
you didn't ask if you should invest, you asked for a comparison between HBAG and ALGO, and HBAG is the better project.
you've got plenty of time to decide if you wanna buy it or not.
at least another 10 months before there's anything exciting price wise.
>pure hopium
no, it's not.
his tweet is still up.
atma.io's been working really hard on EU product passport, and the follow up are battery passports which have been mentioned.
why you think 2 companies entrenched in WEF/NWO dogma, fighting for ESG's, why you think 'green company' like TSLA wouldn't go with the only net negative carbon emissions ledger for his bullshit pretentious EU battery passport.
It's obvious man.
and you know what Elon does for shit coins.
and HBAG looks like a shitcoin to most people, because the price is so low.
It's a bit like a legit company being listed on the penny exchanges and then some guy who shills penny stocks big accidentally gets a hard on for a legit enterprise.
well, that's where we're at, right now.

IF HBAR pumps, it will be hype only and quickly retrace.
It's not being used enough, nor recieving enough attention and development, to sustain a pump right now or in the near future, barring any changes in attention/development.
It is possible, even probable, that algo will pump more and sustain it longer.
I say this as someone who never intends to buy algo and has put 1/3 of their networth in HBAR
HBAR is the tortoise. It WILL win. It is pre-determined.
And i can sit comfy on that and eat any 'opportunity costs' while shitcoiners seethe that i'm not giving it to their village because i'm patient and unpoor.
But the race is long. So, so, long. A very long race indeed...

>>55062545
They are both trash and DOA. EVM has won and these shitcoins will never have the network effects to compete in a meaningful way.

>>55065659
My question is, at what point would you give up on hbar? 2025? 2030? If years continue to pass by and the rest of the market keeps outpacing it in gains, surely you'll admit defeat at some point?

>>55062545
Both shit.

>>55062545
Kys faggot

>>55062545
one is a centralized hashgraph, the other is a reliable, fast, decentralized layer 1 blockchain

>>55065801
i would just eat the loss anon
i'm not poor and not 100% in anything
if it truly failed there would be nothing to sell
do you understand?

>>55064149
just need to listen to Leemon Baird explain hbar... Anyone who can answer questions over and over in succint yet detailed enough ways to make even the biggest of retards understand, is by default a very smart person. Now realize that what Leemon has done mathematically was not only once seen as an impossibility but is something that has changed DLT forever and imo you have the easiest investment of all time.

There is nothing in crypto with LIVE real-life usecases. Bas Ruten even went on Rogans podcast and mentioned the gamifaction of the $Larate token that was all made possible via hashgraph. Rogan has no idea of hbar but he was left in "normie" awe of how THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD IDEA... There will be more and more of these reactions, as Mance stated, Hedera will be the plumbing of Web3.

>>55065801
if HBAR doesn't work out, then crypto will never be taken seriously... Also DLA Piper, the largest Law Firm IN THE WORLD, is already tokenizing real-estate. The party hasn'teven begun yet.

>>55062545
ALGO governance model has tumbleweeds blowing through it and the whole things seems dead. I only bought it because of the ISO20022 larp and leaning towards selling it after this voting period has ended. Hedera consensus algorithm seems like a stroke of genius but I fear it's competing with an entrenched "good enough" mindset, and sometimes the superior technology doesn't always win.

You want to make money? Dont buy either. Tech coins are dead in the water. Algo is ATL. Shib is sitting comfy on the top 20. the market values shit more, act accordingly. + memecoins dont have endless useless devs to pay

>>55066873
Hedera might succeed but that doesn't necessarily mean much for the token price

>>55066916
Agreed, Algorand's governance is retarded

>>55066508
What else do you own ? I'm tempted to go XMR/HBAR only, all the rest seems to be a giant pile of memes (yes, even BTC, fight me)

>>55067348
>The token might be used by everyone, and supply would not be enough, but the price wouldn't change
Come the fuck on, what is this cope even ?

I know the stock is not the company but fuck this clown world

t. accumulating

>>55067554
It's unlikely there would be scarcity to the point of a huge pump

There'll be 50 billion tokens and transactions cost tiny fractions of a penny

>>55067686
You think like a reddit moonboi... tiny fractions at hundreds of thousands of TPS per day adds up, add tokenization of real assets.

But I get it, the scope is too grandiose for you to fathom. Hedera is more than just a token you pajeet

>>55067843
no, i think realistically

the person doing funny math to justify why your bags will pump (You) is the moonboi

>>55067843
>>55067935
you are both faggot redditors.
sorry, I was trolling you earlier, 4D chess haha!
yea, both of you should buy ALGO.
yagmi.

>>55067935
>>55068221
Faggots. The cringe itt is over the top
>>55067554
Real niggas know. Ignore the noise and paid fud and pajeet shillers. Another day anothe feather in Hedera’s cap. Picrel. No other coin will come even close and adoption will see enormous scarcity on a token release schedule over the next 10 years. When adoption hits, 50b will be needed but there will only be 30-something.

Both are dead worthless midwit shitcoin scams, HBAR at least has some upside (rallied 3x from nov lows and still up). Algo is breaking to single digit cents this year.

>>55067935
Sure, enjoy that FIFA partnership... 5 million midwits were just introduced to web 3 gameafication...

None, this mf is better

>>55068669
It's hard to argue against this

>>55068692
>FIFA
Total disappointment and showed how amateur Algorand's team really is

FIFA was just looking for help with their cash grab and played Algorand

Yet we're supposed to expect the same retards to get adoption going... LOL

>>55068432
The more of those useless partnerships I see, the more bearish I get honestly

It just means more dumping

>>55068822
>14 pbtid
Lmao
You’re larping and fudding a coin you don’t hold. This is called coping.

>>55068839
Larping what? Coping what?

The OP implies I don't own either shitcoin

Trying to find out which is less shitty

>>55068852
> The more of those useless partnerships I see, the more bearish I get honestly
>It just means more dumping
Pure copium.

>>55068859
your coin that's supposedly going to take over the world can't even break into the top 30

Nobody talks about it outside of 4chan

Looks like there's been a lot of dumping while you DCA and keep praying any of those useless partnerships start to matter for the price

>>55068878
More copium. Imagine even making this thread now that your pathetic nefarious intentions have been laid bare. I’m not concerned about the price, I’m already retired, I just keep stacking because Hedera is the fruit of the crypto industry and nothing comes even close.

Cope. Harder.

>>55068906
What are my intentions you schizo? I'm openly saying I'm trying to find out which is less shitty

>I’m not concerned about the price
I'm the one coping yet you keep checking boxes off the bagholdler bingo card

What exactly am I coping with? I'm here to try making money, not to brag about some use case headlines that'll crank the TPS and do absolutely nothing for my investment

>>55062545
Done know about algo, but i do know HBAR is just full of rugs and fake transactions. Crypto enterprise adoption is a meme.

>>55068939
>I'm trying to find out which is less shitty
It’s obvious you’re some shitcoin bagholder. Hedera gc members are 1/33rd of the global gdp and growing. You’re just another faggot in a long list of faggots coping.

>>55067554
BTC and LINK
BTC because it always pumps.
LINK because Chainlink Oracles Power Everything. They are also on the governing council but i had bought LINK first and was introduced to HBAR through the partnership. Then leemon cast his spell on me with the harvard lecture and i fell into the rabbit hole.

>>55068971
>Crypto enterprise adoption is a meme.
It's a narrative that works to get dump liquidity from low IQ retards who think they've found a goldmine and are buying the next best thing. They'll slowly fade away and be replaced by similar traps.

>>55062814
I would go suggest any of Bnb, Ogn, Sylo, Tomo, Vet or Matic
>>55065222
Even Solana is dumping, come up with something convincing

>>55068939
>I'm here to try makings moneys ser
ESL shitskin lol2
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