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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Buy books with XMR
https://monerobookstore.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Archetyp
>ASAP
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/vyHPGDcT


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Re-posting a question from the end of the previous thread...

If I had clients start to pay me in Monero, what is the easiest way to then use that money for monthly expenses?

I see the info on how to buy gift cards etc. But that's not what I want.

What is the easiest path to converting Monero it into cash on a regular basis, while still remaining anonymous?

I'm in the US if that matters.

>>55042214
>I'm in the US if that matters.

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

>>55042214
Cash by mail on local monero I'm guessing.

>>55042225
Ok, so I think you're saying to buy silver with the Monero and then take that silver to a local dealer and re-sell it for cash.

That's fine, but I'm assuming the local dealer who is buying it from me is going to want to pay less than the current rate so that they can then make money on re-selling that silver again afterward.

If anyone here is using this method, could you please guess a percentage of your money that you're losing to this cycle of sales? ie. The percentage difference between what you buy the silver for and how much cash you can get for it at a local dealer.

Obviously this will vary, but I'm looking for a rough estimate on how much total shrink I'm going to have to deal with from converting the initial amount I was paid in Monero to the final cash-in-hand after selling silver.

Thanks again to everyone who is responding. I appreciate the input!

>>55042214
KYC CEX, no other way.
Bank is not going to believe you that you got money from random crypto exchange website.
>b-but
stay in monero

>>55042389
>silver
If you live in USA, yes. In Europe silver dealers are forced to take your ID, you don't have to register it like gold, but Jews still found a way to fuck you over with KYC.
>percentage of lost money
Dealer takes few percent due to spread then you've got VAT to cover up, but it should be around 10% at worst.
t. silver schizo

>>55042400
>stay in monero
I'm in a position to potentially be paid the bulk of my income in Monero.

But if I'm going to do that, I would need a way to use a significant percentage of that money to pay bills each month etc. Hence the reason I'm looking for the best way to convert to cash. I'm just trying to determine if it's worth the cost and hassle to keep my income anonymous.

>>55042214
easiest path would be trading your monero for cash by mail on local monero, but you need to make sure to pay your taxes :)

>>55042428
Thank you!

>>55042454

Consider asking friends or family if they'd be intredasted in buying X amount of Monero from you every month. As awareness and demand for XMR increases this may become a viable option.

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

Dont compromise your own security and negate the benefits of XMR with shit opsec! Check out the opsec discussion to learn more!
>Previous weeks discussion
PGP - pastebin.com/K5uK4vvg
File Verification - pastebin.com/64jdYSua
Compartmentalization - pastebin.com/fduPVLmV
Case File Reading - pastebin.com/6Jgr2zsL
>OpsAnon's public key
pastebin.com/kiEVscyb

>the year is 2025
>there are literally 50 OP posts with the same link dumps instead of a few info posts to start the thread

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Join the Swimng Pool! - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
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Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>>55043573
>>55043596
Hello shill.

>>55043573
>>55043596

How's the weather in Nigeria?

>>55042214
Start a localmonero account and start trading with people to get your trades and feedback up.

If your account is good enough people will send you 50K cash in the mail no questions asked.

Make sure to pay your taxes!

>>55043573
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as a cryptocurrency, is in fact not cryptographic in the sense of being hidden, nor is it a currency in the sense of being a convenient medium of transaction.
Monero is a true cryptocurrency, or as I have recently taken to calling it, crypto plus currency. Monero is not a corporate backdoored scam, but rather another free component of a fully functioning parallel economy with vital characteristics comprising a full peer-to-peer electronic cash system as intended by Satoshi.

pregnant monero-chan I have such a strong breeding fetish oh my fucking god I bet she has a hairy pussy too

>>55045817

>>55045826
holy fucking based, literally me the post I love Monero-chan so much she got me into XMR and I hold XX now, still stacking

>>55044177

Hey there, pedonigger.

>>55044959

Wouldn't know, never been too Africa.

How's Fluffypony, still spilling the beans to Interpol?

>>55046781
>spilling beans
Spilling what exactly? The source code is open and available for anyone to read.

what's the best payment method when using bisq?

>>55046756
That is decidedly anti-inclusive language which CANNOT be endorsed by the Zcash Foundation® and is in complete defiance of Electric Coin Company® official policy.
I'll have report this incident to HR. Looks like it was a bad decision to divert funds from social media ambassador training toward the african outreach programme.

How am I supposed to pay bills with monero ?

would it be worth mining monero on my old laptop with an i7 11800H and a 3060? I live at my friend's house but don't know how much he pays for electricity. the laptop's power brick caps at 225w as well if that helps

crabcoin

>>55047281
pay in cocaine

@55043596
@55046756
Why do well poisoning shills try to ruin every thread with their dipshit spam?

>>55049722
checked

>>55046756

>>55048816
>pay in cocaine

This Is The Way.

Who are developing Monero currently? Are they trustworthy?

>>55051024
>Who are developing Monero currently? Are they trustworthy?

A secret underground network of pirates and ninjas. And yes, we believe they are.

>>55051024
You can sit in on the dev meetings and chats on matrix #monero-dev

>>55051024
No one is trustworthy. that's why it's up to us to grab the free and open source Monero codebases, read and research it, read all the cryptography books out there, and then become the one and only Monero developer. Then pass the knowledge forward in case we die. or Monero dies with us

>>55051024
“Can you trust them?” is the wrong question. We’re talking about cryptocurrency, the only thing that matters in this space is “can they prove it?”

Ahoy mates,


Yaaaarrrrr! Sincere and deep thank ye to this XMR community for all the great advice in the past and all of the amazing support. We thank ye so much for the advice on XMR crowdfunding! It be amazing to see so much support in this community. We have learned so much just following these generals, mateys.


If ye know our history, ye know we have been around for a long time, gone through many different sponsors. We would really like to see if we could begin crowdfunding episodes, so we could hopefully get them out to ye much much faster, rather than have to chase down sponsors for each broadcast. It feels uncomfortable to try this method as it be so humbling just that ye enjoy the show. But so many of ye mates have asked if ye could help, so we thought we would try this. Links at the Davey Jones' of this post.


We be excited to give Kuno.Bitejo and Trocador a go and see if we can pioneer this new method of crowdfunding. Hopefully we can help give exposure to these platforms and help other pirate projects to grow.


Thank ye so much for everything, mates. All of yer advice and support keeps the fleet afloat. We could not appreciate ye all and this community more. We are strong believers in XMR and the philosophy behind it, promoting it wherever we go. We are so thankful for this community and the XMR project.


Yaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr! xD


GET NEW EPISODES
https://pastebin.com/NUQDprfD


<3 <3 <3

>>55052009
Based captain

>>55052009
Liking the new art and page, both eyes on the horizon for EP18 Cap'n

I've been mining for 13 hours and Im 37% of the way before I can withdraw my dime worth of monero.

>>55055107
mine to p2pool, instant payout

gupax.io is a community funded GUI for it.

Whats the red pill on DERO?

Is it a real contender in the privacy coin world?

>Bitcoin 2023 conference loses half its attendees

Our reporters attended this year’s event in-person. The energy level crashed as soon as we walked up to the entrance. Gone was Miami’s Charging Bull as well as half the attendees. The conference venue had an uncomfortable amount of empty space — even though the entire north wing had been closed off.

An “ordinals” art gallery claimed that the same pump-and-dump style NFT collections that Bitcoiners ridiculed on Ethereum were somehow good because they minted on Bitcoin.

References to El Salvador, which continues to lose money on its bitcoin holdings, were sparse this year. The animatronic volcano advertising El Salvador’s doomed Volcano Bonds was gone. Government spokesperson Max Keiser awkwardly forced off-topic praises of the country’s dictator into Bitcoin Magazine’s YouTube channel during intermissions. From the main stage, Vivek Ramaswamy claimed that Salvadoran crime was “down 99%” since the country adopted bitcoin as legal tender yet, conveniently, failed to mention the extralegal mass incarceration of 2% of the adult male population as the cause.

Two years later, there are still no other countries that have adopted bitcoin as legal tender (the Central African Republic briefly attempted and then repealed its law).

From the main ‘Nakamoto’ stage, no one mentioned Michael Saylor’s tax fraud lawsuit, the 99% decline in MiamiCoin, the cancelation of Bitcoin City, nor the mass incarcerations in El Salvador.

Instead, platitudes and bullish price predictions for BTC filled airtime.

Gone were pontifications about Bitcoin’s morality and inevitable price appreciation. Politics, mining, and calls for regulatory changes faded into a sea of bikinis, top shelf alcohol, and shimmering lights.

https://protos.com/bitcoin-2023-miami-has-had-enough-and-so-have-we/

>This Is Good For Bitcoin™

>>55055807
i'm curious about dero and darkfi also. interesting up and coming tech or vaporware bullshit?

>>55052009

Love your show! Maybe also consider trying out a Patreon-like model as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13lnwql/monero_subscriptions_wallet_available_now/

>>55052009
One suggestion, throw in a pgp signed msg on there and renew it regularly so listeners can verify your page before donating. Great work though!

>>55055807
>>55055848

Must be shilling season.

>>55052988
>>55053630
>>55056063
>>55056064

Absolutely on the PGP signed message. <3 Was thinking the same thing, matey. Will do immediately.

Thank ye so much for the positive energy! It means so much to us that ye mates enjoy the broadcasts and all the stuff we be making!

We shall spy that Patreon model Thank ye so much for the suggestion. Hopefully we can trailblaze a path for a lot of these new platforms and methods to inspire others while growing this medium.

We thank ye all so much for being a beacon in the darkness. A project like ours obviously could not exist any other way. With the Dark Seas contracting and our project seeming to gain popularity in a lot of different communities, we hope this can be a map across stormy waters. We have been navigating around the XMR community since Fluffy did the fake press conference. It be an amazing success story this project has blossomed with these daily generals and the strong community represented here. Yaaaaaarrrrrr!

>>55053856
that is my child

>>55055844
>An “ordinals” art gallery claimed that the same pump-and-dump style NFT collections that Bitcoiners ridiculed on Ethereum were somehow good because they minted on Bitcoin.
They don't realize it, but they're blowing it. Handing off the future to Eth as the non-privacy king.
It should become clear with time that Bitcoin just doesn't really make sense long term(or short for that matter).
Monero can handle the PoW and privacy stream, and Eth can handle all the bullshit.
Both have sustainable models. Bitcoin is in serious trouble now.

Superior tech always wins in the end.

Bonus: capped supply.

>>55057671
Where do I apply to become a Zcash social media ambassador? I would like to be paid in ZEC so I can dump it

>>55057671
>oh lord need to ride the superior privacy coin general because parasites cant sustain themselves on their own merits

Even the retards that use zcash use it as a public coin so if you decide to use muh zero proofs chainanalisys can simply deanomize you so yeah fuck you retard

>>55042474
I hate talking to frens about crypto since one of them got involved in the Luna crash
>>55043596
>Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it
Sure thing, it's one of the hidden gems that's showing strong potentials as identified by tokenmetrics

>>55057671
Where do I apply to be a Zcash shill? Must be paid pretty well, will take payment in XMR if possible.

>>55058764
>Where do I apply to be a Zcash shill?
https://www.gov.il/he/departments/ministry_of_communications/govil-landing-page

>>55047565
it is never worth mining monero if you want or need a profit right now. it's a bet on the futur, like buying some and hodling them.
so yes it is always worth mining if you don't expect immediate profits

i want to kms

>>55045181
Its that easy to make 50k in monero and is there like a patreon monero system for artists that do commissions

>>55060465
The authentic xmr bag holder experience

The authentic XMR user experience

Are you cool enough for summer yet?

>>55061460
No Monero whale will ever be cool for summer, but I'm happy they are beginning to adopt Nexera protocol alongside this privacy king.

>>55061283
>hold xmr
>the government is going to end soon, just wait a bit more
>I want to kms

>>55045817
Do you that monerochan would be pregnant if the Confederate States had won the American Civil War?

I'm using the GUI wallet Flatpak package from Flathub and I'm seeing periodic "bad weak_ptr" stack traces in bitmonero.log while syncing. Is this normal?

>>55042149
Or just mine with P2Pool on the monero GUI

>>55058764
>Where do I apply to be a Zcash shill?
They are applying it on this board cus jeets will definitely be trapped. But thanks my goodness that Nexera protocol is here to salvage your trap...

I have 0.832155500253 XRM in my wallet right now, I'm still debating if this is a good investment. I'm going to bump it to 1 full XRM tommorow, but probably leave it there.
What is a chance for hitting ATH in the next bullrun?
also tell me about android wallets, who should I trust?

>>55065941
Like the op says Monerujo for android, write down your recovery phrase and store properly.
I personally think monero is bound to grow user wise and get more valuable, but less because of bull/bear cycles, if you view historical monero prices we crab along at a stable pace which is waaay better for a real currency compared to pump and dump shitcoins

>>55064303

XMRig is more efficient.

>not enough monerochan in this bread

>21 xmr
>18 xmr
>?? xmr
what is a make it stack?

>>55068357

>>55058764
>>55059792

Get new material and then have fun staying poor.

>>55068608
>18.7 is 1 millionth of the current supply
why not just bump up to 21 like btc?
where does 50 and 100 come from?

>>55057671
>Superior tech always wins in the end.
>this does have some truth to it, the crypto projects that offer the best tech and the most value to users will most likely succeed cos they're likely to be adopted by big organizations.
Ethereum for example is generally accepted because of its tech, same with Monero, aave, dot, and i won't hesitate in mentioning Ride cos it's got the tech to integrate the Blockchain into moving vehicles, then Tezos, a self-amending blockchain platform that allows for the quick upgrading of the protocol.
and it is likely that we will see even more projects emerge that offer innovative technology

Bug found in wallets, that could potentially de-anonymize your transactions under certain circumstances. This affect GUI/CLI wallet versions v0.14.1.0 to v0.18.2.1. Since many third-party wallet applications rely on the core "wallet2" code, if you do not use the Monero Core CLI/GUI wallets, ask the development team of your wallet if they have upgraded to the new wallet2 code.

>https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8872

stay safe.

>>55070523
transactions that fall into those specific circumstances are about 0.6% of the transactions made in the observerd timeframe and the only part that can be deanoned is the sender address.

basically, obeservers can say you made a transaction at a specific time but not how much you sent or to which address.

this is why having multiple different technologies to implement tx privacy is nice.

>>55071138
exactly.
once again, ring CT proven to be the weakest link in monero zkp.

>>55068779
rope and seethe kek

>>55071392
check this out: LLM instructed to be based tunrs out to be based

>>55073070

bitshit is over

>>55043596
zcash is dead, it only bleeds sats and even piconeros

>>55074728
>zcash is dead, it only bleeds sats and even piconeros

ZCASH WILL RISE LIKE A PHOENIX! JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE!

>ctrl+f Bitcoin
>28 results
Talk about rent free

>>55075528
>ctrl+f monero
>113
>ctrl+f xmr
>50
I don't know what drugs you are on, but I know which crypto you used to buy it for.

>>55075577
So 42 results for Bitcoin and BTC prior to my post, 163 for Monero and XMR, you spend 20% of every thread coping over Bitcoin.

>>55075627
>you need to explicitly mention Monero to be talking about Monero in the /XMR/ Monero general
>if you mention Bitcoin, you must coping about it
holy brainrot, have you ever considered lobotomy before?

>>55075627
>coping over Bitcoin.

Coping? LMAO more like gloating over its increasing loss of relevance. Every time BTC stumbles and falls ever further we can't help but point and laugh.

>>55069393
18.7 is the old suicide stack, the proper one is 21 I think?
18.7 is not including tail emissions and tho higher one is including it for the next 10 or 20 years or something.

I own 2 monero... am I still going to make it?

>>55076615
We are all going to make it, even those who haven't bought in yet

>Infinite supply.
>Centralized hardforks
>Weak hasharate
>Flawed privacy model

There's no coming back from this

>>55080237
Whats wrong with privacy model?

>>55080237
Yes, and with no viable alternatives, it's over for criminals worldwide. DNMs just made a collective announcement they're closing down tomorrow and never coming back

>>55076538
It's 18.7 because it represents a 187 on tradfi.

>2025
>my monero-chan plushie has still not arrived

>>55081480
you do have a tracking number and it's just taking long, right?

>>55080237
go all in on bitshit

>>55082643
yes

>ECC restructuring to better serve Zcash | Zooko Wilcox | May 24, 2023

>Today, in order to better serve the Zcash mission, we are announcing a restructuring of ECC, including layoffs of valued team members.

>Restructuring ECC was a challenging decision. It required that we lay off 13 employees — about half of our team. Many of the people we let go today were instrumental in bringing to market groundbreaking technologies and ideas that no other team in the world has been able to deliver. We are sad to part ways with them and will always be grateful for the opportunity we had to work with these incredible individuals.

>In the coming weeks, ECC will release a revised roadmap centered on empowering ZEC holders and giving them a voice. This includes:

> - Creating an excellent user experience for proof-of-stake ZEC
> - A wallet, built by and for Zcashers, that is easy to use and accessible for anyone
> - A mobile-wallet SDK that is useful to other Zcash builders
> - US-based policy work to ensure ZEC, self-custody, and staking remain viable in the USA

https://electriccoin.co/blog/ecc-restructuring-to-better-serve-zcash/

Keep huffin' that copium, trannies!

did your secret internet money ever fix that metadata issue bloating up the chain?

I'm so buying these next month for my vacation. The Monero-chans are gonna be all over my well air conditioned dick while I chill on the beach. I'm gonna post a pic before make off.

>>55084604

Cool as fuck but gotta keep it real here: wearing Monero-branded gear out in public is just asking for a $5 wrench attack.

>>55084124
>roadmap centered on empowering ZEC holders and giving them a voice
It's so funny. Notice its all about then ZEC holders, no ZEC users(cause there ain't none)

>>55084675

ZCorp is basically running out of cash, ZEC price keeps dropping so they can no longer afford to pay their mercenaries who are only there for the 6-figure salary.

They're now down to their last $3 million, dev fund was at $25 million just last year lol

What is your preferred wallet?

>>55085388
What's next for them? Abandonware?
Noone is gonna give them money and mercenaries don't work for free.
If you truly believe in private internet money, xmr is more in your alley than CEO corpo coin.

>>55085933
monero-gui/cli and monerujo work for me.

>>55085388
fucking kek my sides

>>55085388
checked
Sending zionshills to the Monero general 24/7 costs money

>>55085388
>running out of funds
kek. IF their zkp tech PROVES to be really effective, it seems like we are going to get it dirty cheap, and by dirty cheap i mean $0 because we are going to steal it anyway.

>>55085933
monero-gui in desktop, monerujo in phone.

>>55085388
a ZEC was worth several thousands at launch, did they not cash in the premine?

gday lads, got a new macbook from work, can I mine XMR with a mac? honestly haven't looked into it

>>55091076
Shit hashrate, not worth the thermal wear on the machine unless you expect a 100x

>>55085388

Nice FUD there, faggot. Its just streamlining, happens all the time.

Now Zcash will have more focused development and stay ahead of the competition. Keep coping.

>>55086941

The core devs are still around and producing superior ZKP tech.

Sorry lol

>>55089734

Implying the endless XMR shilling here isn't being funded by Fluffypony and friends

>>55090064

Kek just try it, the ensuing lawsuit will drain the XMR General Fund dry.

No license = no dice, baggies

>>55091925
>>55091891
>>55091879
>>55091867
Hello shill.

>>55091925
>lawsuit
>implying the monero community will have anything to do with the tech being stolen. Good luck providing enough proofs.
>drain the fund
>implying the fund wont be moved out of the wallet when convinient to avoid grabs.
There is absolutely nothing you can do, i just hope that after all the knee bending and cocksucking, your little coin can provide some useful tech to the world that can be used by someone with the balls to do so(xmr).

>>55045817
>hairy pussy
fuck noo
shaved pussy is best

>>55091891
Hurry up and fund a /ZEC/ general where you can dump all your fine facebook memes before the price dumps even more

I have a long term goal to set up my own hydro electric powerplant and mine xmr, long term on a societal scale it seems like one of the best ways to prepare for the future

based on a variety of scenarios it always comes out on top of the other options, it's a self sustaining system

the only thing possibly more self sustaining would be having a cattle ranch, although that also has problems

but tedmaxxing and building a hydropower plant on a stream on your property, is quite high up there, and in terms of survival, keeping a low profile, generating currency, it's hard to beat

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>55086941
>What's next for them? Abandonware?

Downsizing and hoping for a pump from Daddy Silbert. If they run out of cash they'll almost certainly resort to begging for donations, which would be hilarious considering how much they've mocked Monero's donations-based funding model.

Here's a screenshot from their Q1 transparency report, they burn through nearly $400K every MONTH lol

>>55096300
I donate to whatever needs funding in the CCS every week, and I'm consistently impressed with how quickly full funding is reached for proposed projects. monero community and model are infinitely better than (((ZEC)))

>>55097172
based

Just checking....yep, still an infinite supply shitcoin

>>55099138
sell

>>55099138

Bitcoin is a war of digital warriors embracing the ambassadors of thermodynamics, created by the quantum plasma of prosperity, exponentially growing with no end in sight in a quantum tunnel of unlimited power.

>>55099138
Damn, how much was my stack devalued since the last time you checked?
Should I swap it for infinite supply shitrocks?

>>55099655

Bitcoin-only, bro. Bitcoin is a fully decentralised web of android eagles embracing the priestess of power, consisting of nothing but the background radiation of decentralisation, energetically speeding without censorship in a palace of space and time.

>>55042133
SEX WITH MONERO-CHAN!!!!

>>55076615
Yes, think about the current price of Bitcoin and realize you're just where Bitcoin was 7 years ago, and be patient

Reminder that Monero literally can't survive without jacking Zcash's cutting edge tech.

Eventually.the market will realize the OG is where its at and send ZEC to Pluto.

Don't say you weren't warned

>>55042133
i need ure most racist monero memes pls. or barring that most schizo

>>55102101

lol stay mad

>>55101356
make babies with monerochan

>>55102618

>>55102101
>og

Xmr came before zcuck

>>55071392
Where do we get this ai

>>55042358
>local monero
It is shit thas has an e-mail for police requests and also localmonero removed Russia from the list (following restrictions).
Localmonero is literally a shit.

>>55104460
Do you have a better way to do fiat to crypto? Im all ears.
Also the russian guys can just use tor to bypass these restrictions.

>>55104707
You don't get it. LOCALMONERO REMOVED RUSSIA FROM THE LIST.

Vpn/tor etc won't help you. You will enter the site, but you can't choose country, because no such country in the list. Got it now?

At the moment for fiat-monero is only bestchange.ru, as I know...

>>55104911

Blame Uncle Sam & Friends for that.

>>55105127
No, I will blame administration of localmonero, because localmonero is p2p platform. Was there request from police to stop service for Russia? You know the answer, they literally don't care and don't have such law.

Monero is built and being built as a censorship-resistant technology. If any state agency from any country can break it, than it's not working.

As a community, we need to stop helping services that are following restrictions and any kind of censorship. Today Russia, next will be Serbia, then Turkey and so on.
Community all the times talk about for government to fuck off, but some services just don't care - just business, nothing personal.
It is better to have no service at all, than that honeypot and little Sam Friend.

>>55104911
Why does this matter and what can the admins do to stop me from selling monero to my 'american' friend who lives in 'america'

>>55042133
Is it safe to enable javascript in the TOR browser if the browser is operating inside WHONIX?

>>55105428
Yes, if you dont care about potentially exposing info within the whonix workstation VM. Your ip etc is safe.

>>55105400
I care about your privacy too.
Localmonero has e-mail for police. So you are not safe.
And I care for community not to use services that follow censorship and restrictions.

>>55105428
Privacy wise? probably. Security wise? If you're schizoid enough to consider you could be exposing yourself to potential XSS and the like but that has been an attack vector that isnt widely exploited nowadays I believe. I think modern browsers do sandboxing so well that it simply isnt a profitable venture unless you're being targetted/hunted/watched by some greater entity that wants you particularly and doesnt care about finances.

>>55105316
>>55105568
Just wanna say I totally agree with you, I dont think localmonero should be in the business of sanctioning countries and censoring for no good reason beyond personal political virtue signaling. It makes little sense and defeats the mission of monero to be political, anyone who does so is a saboteur of the project of my opinion because there are too little scenarios that would help it in anyway.

Emails are not necessarily compromising. It's trivial to set up anonymous email, you would be an idiot to use something like gmail.

Bump

>>55042133
Checked

>>55106706
>Localmonero has e-mail for police
I mean they have dedicated e-mail address.
Police will write to localmonero ->localmonero will give all the information they have. I am sure for that because Alex from AgoraDesk said they will give.

>>55042186
If XMR can changed it's monetary policy what else can change about it? Seems doggy to me and makes XMR impossible to hold long term imo. Great to use if you want to spend some money without the eyes of uncle sam on it but fucking useless as an investment.

Just discovered this open-source wallet: https://github.com/cypherstack/stack_wallet

Is it any good? Are there any other open-source multicoin wallets like this?

How do you generate a valid QR for an address?
Any links to official documentation would be great.

>>55104210
this isn't racist enough for me desu :(
I'm looking for stuff that upsets the jewish status quo moenro memes like that

>>55107549
Wise. Do NOT buy into useful tech with long term viability

>>55107549
>If XMR can changed it's monetary policy what else can change about it?

lolwut? Is this one of those imaginary maxipad gotchas?


>Seems doggy to me and makes XMR impossible to hold long term imo.

Doggy? Yes, dog memes are where its at.


>Great to use if you want to spend some money without the eyes of uncle sam on it but fucking useless as an investment.

As opposed to what?

>>55108200
>As opposed to what?
Gold, silver, etc. Hard assets. I like Monero, but not as an investment or store of value.

>>55108324
Asteroid mining and nuclear fusion will tank the price of gold

>>55108324

Guess that depends on how comfy holding something backed by bricks of prime uncut Peruvian cocaine makes you.

Personally, I'd never put the bulk of my net worth into crypto but I wouldn't be worried keeping some of it in Monero, nobody ever lost money betting on Big Cocaine.

>>55104911
i have never tried, but i guess that a russian citizen could just buy from another country, after all you can send mail outside your country.
and yes, it sucks that Russia was removed from the list.
>Although unable to comment on the reasons behind the decision, they seemed open to the possibility of reversing it soon:
>>>>Hopefully, we can re-enable it soon.
it sounds like they didn't have a chance. i guess some higher power forced them, but you never know.

>>55107525
i think you are over thinking this. they don't have much information about anything. its just to keep the regulatoors happy, once they knock the door asking for user info they will find out that the info provided by localmonero is not nearly enough.

ofc localmonero is not perfect but rejecting it like if they were pure cancer instead of trying to understand the complexity of the situation will lead you nowhere.

>>55108190

kek how is XMR long term viable? It has an unlimited supply, centralized development and a probable inflation bug.

>>55109938
Unless you plan living until 2140, I don't think this narrative holds much water. Get new fud, this one, like fluffypony, has lost its salt.

>>55103839
An unknown amount of babies.

When haveno lads?

>>55111742

>>55109938
Why do you think a constant block reward is bad?
>muh store of valoo nummer go ub
Why do you think development is centralized?
Why do you think there is an inflation bug?

>>55110095
Even if you live in 2140, tail emissions do nothing. It's a 0.6 XMR reward and an annual inflation asymptotically going to 0%. even on large timescale whatever monero is introduces is introduces over a fucking large timescale. That's like saying gold is not viable by 2300 because supply might increase significantly by that time. That is simply not the case, as ~300 years have passed since then.

Maybe i am just confused or mistaken but i want to know how many nodes does monero need to upgrade itself, basically bitcoin is trully decentralized because the block size war and if i understand bitcoin needs a 90% consensus while monero i thought it was the same rules but i read monero forks and upgrades mean the node operators don't have the power.

>>55113123
>basically bitcoin is trully decentralized
How is few chink miners dictating the rules for the rest decentralized behavior?
>monero forks and upgrades mean the node operators don't have the power
Why wouldn't the miners switch to the new version if it is for the benefit of the community? You want to mine newer, better version of the chain.

>>55113338
Because if i understand correctly its the nodes not the miners that have the power

>>55113407

Hard forks are upgrades which are made purely with the voluntary agreement of each node operator and miner. The participating nodes effectively secede from the rest of network and create a new one operating on the new rules which they voluntary adopted. If the new fork enjoys the support of a majority of nodes it becomes the canonical chain, if it fails to attract sufficient support it remains an alt-chain.

Also: when Monero forks the old chain doesn't necessarily die, if there is enough support for it continues existing under an alternate ticker.

>>55113558
What is the necessary % of nodes for a new upgrade to become the standar in both chains, i was looking in the internet and mostly its pow vs pos trash

>>55113123
Bitcoin and Monero operate on different modes of forking. Monero uses hardforks (HFs), which means that at a given height, a new chain is created to which 50%+ of the hashrate must migrate to[1]. Older version nodes will be stuck on an shorter and magnitudes less secure abandoned chain. While Bitcoin operates with softforks (SFs), either miner-activated or user-activated[2]. With miner-activated or MASF there is a window of blocks where miners can vote yes to a proposal. For example, with Taproot that was a 2 week window, where 98.36% of blocks signaled yes that is greater than 90%[3]. Though keep in mind that this is voting by block counts, not by node count. For nodes making SFs on Bitcoin there are user-activated or UASF. An example of this was BIP-148, which was a messy situation to say regarding SegWit.
The main difference is that SFs are backward compatible, while HFs are not. For Bitcoin backwards compatibility is important, but Monero cannot allow that. For example, you cannot upgrade ringCT or the PoW algorithm without a HF. Also in my opinion, it also kind of forces a higher level of consensus, as non-agreeing participants are kicked off-chain.

[1] https://github.com/monero-project/monero#scheduled-softwarenetwork-upgrades
[2] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Softfork
[3] https://taproot.watch/

something's happening around the meme lines

>>55113685
So basically miners can start deploying the new rules but its the nodes that finally decide and they can choose to not decide if there isn't a 90% agreement, i want to know well it makes sense but why does monero not have that 90% rule maybe its ineficient but slow horse wins the race

Not sure how technical this crowd is but some help would be great. I'm trying to run a local moner-wallet-rpc with it's daemon address pointed at a remote node. So this will be running locally. I also want to run a monero-wallet-cli and point it at this local RPC.

RPC command:
./monero-wallet-rpc --daemon-address http://www.remotenode.com:9999 --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 --rpc-bind-port 1234 --log-level 2 --disable-rpc-login --confirm-external-bind --prompt-for-password --wallet-dir .


Wallet command:
monero-wallet-cli --daemon-port 1234 --wallet-file "foobar"

So in the RPC logs I can see this connection incoming from the wallet and it looks fine from that side. However the CLI wallet always throws some bullshit error: Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon: http://localhost:1234.. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or change the daemon address using the 'set_daemon' command.

Am I missing something obvious?

>>55047565
i basically consider the electricity bill a monthly monero purchase receipt.

>>55111736
never
>>55107582
is unstoppable wallet any good?

>>55105400
how do you take payment from your 'american' friend? A SWIFT bank transfer? Amazon.ru gift card?

>>55114339
Nothing stands out straight away, try a different port?

>>55114369
An 'American' address. Encrypted, of course.

>>55114784
Thanks. Just tried but same issue. Very weird.

What is this GHOST I'm hearing about fellow monerochads?

>>55116389
>What is this GHOST I'm hearing about fellow monerochads?

>>55116477
Based compliant SFW poster

>>55112631

Infinite supply dilutes value over time.

Hard forking regulary requires centralization.

If there isnt an inflation bug then why does Monero always crab or dump?

>>55109938
Retard tier zodler

Here's an interesting article about building censorship resistant systems.
https://nullchinchilla.me/2023/05/two-kinds-of-censorship-resistance/

>>55042133
with Monero Chris is King because the Jew can't spy on the Christians Money with their evil Satanic State Bailout Banking aparatus. Does anyone have that meme or could make it? a big Cross + Monero + Chris is King verbiage

After the ledger fiasco I’d like to move my Xmr to another wallet. What wallet would you recommend ?

>>55118997
I just wanted to ask how I would securely purchase and store my moneroos. Let’s see.

>>55118997
>>55119031
the official wallet on a computer
(linux obviously)

>>55114369
DAIs, USDTs or your American friend can buy your course on some site that is based in a neutral country.

any new good long hopium post today? desperately need it. thanks

>>55042214
Buy gold and sell to pawn shops that pay spot. Or sell directly to people. Some places need your ID when you sell to them, so spread it around town to avoid suspicion

>>55118463
Great article, thanks
>>55119031
That depends on you threat model.

>>55042214
>>55120892
Also I forgot, monero atms. Yes there are fees but it’s way less than taxes

>>55118146
Kill yourself 1pbtid.
You know what else will dilute value over time? Being useless as a currency. Inb4 "the more the useless it is, the better it is as a store of valloo"
You can make your own fork if you want, and the community can use it if it's better.
Holy shit you're a retard. You can bet there is a legion of people, astronomically smarter than you, scouring the code for free money bugs. They are incentivized to exploit it quickly before anyone else does and the value goes to zero.

>>55118146
Inflation in Monero is still asymptotically 0. It is still deflationary and therefore isn't losing value over time because of the tail emission. You should actually look into Monero instead of just shit posting something your favorite influencer parroted. Or don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9Uu5BUxII&pp=ygUUZHIgZGFuaWVsIGtpbSBtb25lcm8%3D

>>55042133

Your participation needed:

Global Hyperinflation General. /GHG/ >>>/pol/428740864

I am writing a letter to https://monerica.com/

Any ideas to mark something as avoid? Or add something?

At the moment I think they can add 12 links...

>>55102618

Also I wanted to an order in monero.shopping, but they said, that they are not working at the moment (see screenshot).

>tfw i eat poisoned outputs

>>55123610
directly into the "top-tier monerochans" folder

>>55123061
>monerosupplies
based

>>55123091
monero.shopping was a borderline scam, if i recall correctly, they wanted an absurd amount of money from the CCS while being really shady and not knowing what they are even building.

There is https://anonshop.app/ mostly for the US and https://order.proxysto.re/ for the EU.

>>55042133
Great usage case, ive lost way more money than I would have keeping stacks of it.

>>55042133
Does Montero require an ID to use?
I started to get into Bitcoin but I couldn't make a wallet without fixing myself which was the entire point of Bitcoin in the first place - to be anonymous.

>>55126084
>Does Montero require an ID to use?

Yes, the protocol requires a retina scan to authorize the sending of funds. You may also be required to upload your DNA profile to the Monero Authentication Center but don't worry, they triple encrypt it with zk-SNEEDs.

>>55126119
Oh so it's just like bitcoin

>>55126215

Pretty much, only there's also an infinite supply and an unknown amount of inflation bugs.

>>55126239
Don't matter to me, they arent getting my real name so I'm not using it.
Monero a shit

>>55126251
>Monero a shit

Based. Have you tried Zcash yet? Although it lacks any darknet adoption its all the rage in Sub-Saharan Africa.

>>55126272
No, I'm just going to use gold and silver, ride a horse, not pay taxes, drink moonshine, and engineer shit out of a trash hoard.
Fuck all of this

Anyone have experience with the national bank transfer option on local Monero? How does it look? I've been using Zelle but the exchange rates are higher than I would like.

>>55126297
>I'm just going to ride a horse

>>55120927

Its not useless, BTC adoption is exploding in El Salvador, darknet no longer required.

>>55122199

Cope. Infinite supply = infinite supply.

>>55126799
Y u mad tho

Anyone in countries other than USA/Canada having issues with Cake Pay gift cards? Not available for me at the moment.

>>55126272
Imagine trying to to use the shitcoin where 99% of retards don't use the privacy options leving your transactions even more suspicious than what you already have

>>55126946
Gold the infinite shitcoin

>>55042133

Your participation needed:

Global. Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/428821697

>>55128208
Damn I always miss these
You're doing good work anon but you've gotta keep them bumped

Nobody is ever going to use crypto as money it was just a casino ponzi from the start to make fiat. Crypto died with mt gox. Monero will go to zero like every other coin this decade.

>>55130309
>Nobody is ever going to use crypto as money

Somebody inform the ever-growing darknet economy.

>>55130437
>darknet bro
No ones going to take crypto seriously until a publicly traded company or actual business in general accepts it. Bitcoin failed at this. Btrash didn't do it. L*tecoin didn't. What makes you think monero will?

>>55130468

Crypto will NEVER be a mainstream thing, CBDCs will be rolled out and given a monopoly on digital payments, game over.

Monero will be fine since the black market is immune to State interference. Everything else is pretty much doomed.

>>55130468
here you go newfren
https://cryptwerk.com/

>>55123061
Surprised some of those links aren't included yet, but from what you've listed there are some that are already on the site:
- monero.how, Education -> tutorials
- moneromarket.io, Businesses -> Marketplaces
- monerosupplies.com, Businesses -> Monero Merchandise
- xmrstickers.com, Businesses -> Monero Merchandise
- moneropot.org, Businesses -> Gambling
- monerochan.art, Non-Profits -> Miscellaneous
- and xmr.llcoins.net is kinda listed under Utilities -> Address Verification -> "Cryptonote Address Tests"
As to adding one, I'd suggest the MCI
>https://monerocommunityindex.neocities.org/
I don't know if it's actively maintained, but either way it seems like a nice addition being next to two other neocities sites.

>>55130826
good take

>>55107918
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/wiki/URI-Formatting
>monero:[address]?queryparams
> e.g. monero:46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em?tx_amount=239.39014&tx_description=donation
they use http query params, check the docs

to make it a qr code, just use one of those "url to qr code" websites. i'm a fan of https://goqr.me/api/doc/create-qr-code/#quickstart cause if you use duckduckgo or another search engine with bangs you can type "!qr foobar" and you get a qr code.

Kucoin have suspended XMR withdrawals "due to node maintenance". Any idea how long this normally takes?

>>55131832
kek, thanks for playing.

>>55131832
>Kucoin have suspended XMR withdrawals "due to node maintenance". Any idea how long this normally takes?

lol paper crypto

>>55126946
It's not cope. You just have no idea what you're talking about and now you're moving the goal posts. Before you said that infinite supply dilutes value over time, infinite supply = dilutes vale. Now you're saying infinite supply = infinite supply, which is just a truism and is utterly meaningless in this case. It also doesn't support your original point. Like I said, try actually looking into the future inflation rates of Monero with the tail emission.

>>55132296
"node maintenance"

Listen I've gotta tell you, keeping a node online is one of the stupid simplest tasks an admin could participate in.

>multimillion (billion?) dollar company based around technologies
>does not have a backup box for when the main machines need hardware swaps or some catastrophic failure happens

The math aint mathing because it takes 2 minutes to update versions, their drives storing the chain should be in RAID so it doesnt need to be powered off to replace a drive, even worse I bet it's just hosted on a VM, so why didnt they just spin it up on another box to eliminate downtime?

The more of these instances I see the more convinced I am that there's stinky business afoot.

>>55131832
It lasts as long as it takes them to buy more without pumping the price.

ANTI MOONBOY

>>55131504
Thank you. Before suggesting, I did ctrl+F, but had not found them... May be they need to do better search, I dunno

>https://monerocommunityindex.neocities.org/
Great. Nice one, I will write monerica to add it also

>>55132594

Its always a game of semantics with you faggots. Spin it any way you like but ultimately XMR has an infinite and likely excess supply while BTC doesnt, period.

The market has spoken.

>>55136970
Every fucking Monero thread. Nonsense FUD.

It has an "infinite supply" over an infinite timescale. It isn't like more will be produced because there are more miners, it is a fixed amount per block. This is a feature as it is an incentive to validate transactions and secure the network. It is a pretty small amount in absolute terms and as a % of supply will constantly approach 0.

How will BTC get people to validate transactions once block rewards run out? Continue to pay massive transaction costs that make daily purchases impractical? BTC is controlled opposition and not a threat to the state or banks.

>>55136970
>The market has spoken.
Lmao which one? Might it be the Dark Net Markets? Or meme lines on a heavily manipulated graph more of a reflection of free market choice?

>>55134773
In this case it was around 12 hours.

>>55085933
>What is your preferred wallet?
sylo wallet and MyMonero wallet
Each of them is securely built with the strongest encryption.

>>55136970
>The market has spoken.

lol as if the crypto market is super rational

Anyone Saw what Binance did to France about XMR ?..

SELLLLL SELLLLLL

>>55140795
no i am not as chronically plugged in as i was a while back whats going on?

>>55042133
this thread was made NINE days ago

Sheeith.... just visiting the xmr general in VR on pico 4 for the first time.
its fucking cool as shit

>>55140795
AND Spain AND Poland AND Italy

>Sell
Getting removed from binance is the best thing that could happen to xmr.

>>55140795
>>55141039
It's over.

>>55140795
>Anyone Saw what Binance did to France about XMR ?

More users will now be forced to rely on user-friendly DEX trading thus further decentralizing the Monero ecosystem and making it even less vulnerable to State interference? Based beyond belief.

>>55140795
>>55141022
Here is the email I received just now:

Restriction on trading certain tokens for France

We are sending you this email to formally notify you that due to local regulatory requirements, Binance is no longer able to offer Enhanced Anonymity (“CAE”) crypto-assets (commonly referred to as “privacy coins”) In France.

From June 26, 2023, users residing in France will no longer be able to buy or sell the following EACs on our platform: DCR, DASH, ZEC, ZEN, PIVX, NAV, SCRT, XVG, FIRO, BEAM, XMR, MOB

These restrictions will be applied according to the following schedule:

On 06/26/2023: All Spot trades and deposits relating to CAEs will be blocked, and all pending Spot orders will be automatically closed. CAE withdrawals remain possible. Convert, EARN and “Crypto-Loans” products will be limited to “withdrawal only” mode. The “withdrawal only” mode allows you to sell or close positions, but limits buying and opening new positions with respect to the aforementioned CAEs.

On 09/26/2023: All loan positions will be automatically closed.

On 09/29/2023: All positions of the EARN product with a flexible subscription will be closed.

On 10/26/2023: The sale by Convert will be blocked. Cryptocurrency withdrawals for privacy coins remain available. We remain committed to the long-term development of the blockchain ecosystem and digital assets. We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your support.

The Binance Team

>>55142337
holy shit bros

>it's happening

>>55141571
>rely on user-friendly DEX trading
lmao name one dex i can swap monero on and then send it to native wallet

>>55142337
lmao frenchies get rektamundo

Is 500 XMR enough to make it?

>>55142356
>lmao name one dex i can swap monero on and then send it to native wallet

Haveno testnet is already up and running, should be ready for primetime soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13ot1fe/havenos_test_network_is_now_live_with_installers/

Serai is apparently going to launch after summer.

>>55142337

I cannot adequately express how happy this makes me.

>>55142481
>Is 500 XMR enough to make it?

>>55136970
>the market has spoken

for once I am in agreement with a modern, co-opted, (((central-bank-and-regulation-friendly))) nuBTC maxi - the market has spoken and nobody wants BTC anymore. Every marketplace which values private, inexpensive, or fast transactions has switched to XMR for obvious reasons. If someone says they take Bitcoin it is unironically a honeypot or a boomer who hasn't updated their website in years. Or someone who likes paying 48 dollars worth to send 50 dollars worth.

banned in france

>>55142337
move to el Salvador or, asia

anything else is fucking retarded at this point

I've basically settled on the idea of cheap mountainous property to build small hydro electric dams on, and then crypto farms on

obviously the bigger the better, but even a modest stream with enough distance to flow down is continual essentially free power output

in my head I have an idea of a few potential prospects for this

you want an impoverished country with very low population density in the mountains, ideally your site is isolated from society, has a year round flow of water, cheap to acquire and build on

generally mountainous terrain is valued lower because you can't build a homesite easily on it

I find myself drawn to the amazon, phillipines, Appalachian mountains in the usa

any more ideas for the ideal setup on this

>>55142337
Euros get what they fucking deserve

Luv me bitcoin
luv me monero
swaps between the two are essential for this ecosystem to exist.

>>55142337
> XMR getting banned on stink kikey CEQs forcing very pleb and their mom to trade privately P2P like it was meant to be.
I coomed

>>55142337
Itz Real!
https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-to-delist-privacy-tokens-in-france-italy-spain-and-poland
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
Mark crypto scary again!

>>55142337
Damn that fucking sucks price-wise. On the other hand it confirms that the governments around the world do not have access to software which can deanonymize XMR.

>>55143248
If you’re anywhere in the us, you’ll need to cash out to pay rent to the county (they call it property tax) because they only accept dollars. If that’s not a big deal you’ll be fine but it is something to be aware of. As for location, I’d also recommend the Rockies in Montana/Wyoming but it is a lot drier than the east so river flow is likely less consistent
>any more ideas for the ideal setup on this
You’ll need a septic tank since you won’t be hooked up to any utilities, and satellite internet since running a cable will be prohibitively expensive even for a city
>>55144109
>Damn that fucking sucks price-wise.
Cheaper coins means you get more for the same fiat amount. How is that a bad thing long term?

>>55144103
Fuck me, just got the email from Binance(I don't have any unknown amount in it but still).
Guess I'll use Kraken.
Any other Italianon into Monero? How are you doing?

>>55144109

Banning Monero is an admission it works exactly as advertised. People who actually *need* Monero aren't suddenly going to stop using it, if anything they'll now be willing to pay more for it.

Only midwits think "Oh gee, they've banned Monero, guess I'll just have to start using CoinJoin now" is what happens next.

>>55042133
10 day old thread wow

>>55145021

For comparison, the last /BTC/ General died after 6 hours lol

>>55144109
>price wise
imo this is just for short term price action only. Delisting mainly does two things, it removes liquidity from the market and drives away investors. The latter one is not a very bad thing, but the moonboys will not appreciate having a speculation free market. Extra investorial demand always seem to come in cycles, especially in the crypto sphere, so it could even have a net zero effect on the price. On the other hand, the removed liquidity only targets people who'd be using these CEXes in the first place. As most of the activity that Monero is used for is already grey/black market the people using Monero for its actual intended purpose have their proper on and off-ramps whether that be DNM swapping sites of LM. Delisting will only create further pressure and more importantly liquidity on alternative, unregulated Monero exchanges. New ones like Haveno or atomic swaps will come up, but don't expect them to drive up off-CEX volumes. Rather, expect off-CEX volumes increase and these new markets to be tested for their worth. Delisting driving volume away has probably the best timing with DEXes/alternative markets coming out.
That or I am underestimating how many investors are in Monero. It is the clown market and volume data simply doesn't add up for Monero. Seriously, check out perpetuals. Some were reporting billions of USD of 24h volume. The spot market is no better, Kraken (30th by daily volume) is currently outranked 2x on 24h volume by BingX and 15x by CoinDXC at 10.991$m USD daily volume. The numbers don't add up, even if you are used to cryptocurrency shenanigans
>https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero#markets

>>55145063
the rest of the thread replies were stuck in the mempool, maybe they'll arrive next week

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>>55144109
Counterpoint: they also banned backdoored ziontrash

Any reliable place to buy a prepaid visa with XMR?

>>55042389
criminal RPers like yourself should expect to lose at least 10% in conversion.