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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Buy books with XMR
https://monerobookstore.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Archetyp
>ASAP
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/vyHPGDcT


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Reporting in
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Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
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Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

Nobody accepts XMR anywhere. DASH is accepted at hundreds of thousands of retailers. DASH has stronger privacy than XMR with DASH's anonymizer set is 4 million, XMR's is only 16 if they wanna catch you in DASH they gotta look at 4 million other transactions, in XMR only 15.

Privacy is the only thing XMR is good for and that was broken and doesn't work, see the OSPEAD attack. Ya'll look like you tryna see how far you can go until someone says, "Hey, XMR ain't got no clothes!" Welp, this is bout as far as you get.

>>54980242

which DNMs accept DASH?

gtfo faggot

is Cake wallet actually good? and is Monero even worth using for shit like scams and such? all these replys seem like bots and shills

How important is keeping with the most upgraded gui wallet version? Im always paranoid about losing my ??? And don't want to mess with what werks

>>54980292

It’s fine. Monerujo and feather are better though.

It’s just money, don’t overthink it.

>>54980301

Only required if big hard fork where clients need to be updated to work with new version. Just save your mnemonic seed and you’ll be fine, can always restore to another wallet client later.

>>54980292
pro tip: don't use ios wallets in opsec-critical situations

>>54980242
I was once a victim of the Dash scam too (didn't invest/lose much $, only time), but I didn't try to dump my bags on others. Even if you're in the deep red, desu just get out while you can. Dash = scam Bitcoin clone with no privacy except tiny (3 i/o lol) coinjoins.

>>54980301
Highly unlikely to lose anything, even if you fail to update during a major upgrade. You'll still need to update to actually keep using though. Just check community hubs every once in a while, there's usually at least a month of warning before a major update takes effect.

>Book club
I'm reading Permanent Record at the moment, I know Snowjob is a ziontrash shill so I won't recommend it specifically.
Another book on the surveillance state or future of it could be relevant to Monero thoughbeit

im out of the loop, but didnt the feds arrest a leading monero dev a couple years ago and then mysteriously release him and the whole integrity of the project was being questioned after?

>>54979080
https://youtu.be/7qQ-aTQTwu8

>>54981564
No, you're talking about Fluffypony and he hasn't had any role with the project in quite some time, even before he got picked up by the feds. The code is all open source anyway, anyone can go audit it if they like, and it isn't like he had any special knowledge that others didn't.

Dont compromise your own security and negate the benefits of XMR with shit opsec! Check out the weekly opsec discussion to learn more!
>Previous weeks discussion
PGP - pastebin.com/K5uK4vvg
File Verification - pastebin.com/64jdYSua
Compartmentalization - pastebin.com/fduPVLmV
Case File Reading - pastebin.com/6Jgr2zsL
>OpsAnon's public key
pastebin.com/kiEVscyb

>>54979390
tell me more about this setup. are you mining? are you hosting a node? are you hosting a website from your own house? what is all these electronic equipment for?

Also:
Monero will end involuntary taxation.
Monero is the final solution to the taxman problem.

Is it worth it to mine monero? I've seen pictures of exchanges asking users what the "purpose" of their monero withdrawals are. Perhaps it'd be safer to use the fiat -> electricity -> XMR route.

People told me to get off CEX but im not sure how to buy monero outside a CEX

It's incredibly obvious that xmr is the best currency

Anything else is retarded

>>54981564
>im out of the loop, but didnt the feds arrest a leading monero dev a couple years ago and then mysteriously release him and the whole integrity of the project was being questioned after?

The retard pushing this narrative literally used AI as an "investigative" tool to draw that conclusion.

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

>>54984020
Monero is a shitcoin like the rest thoughwever

Reminder that the /XMR/ bookclub is now a thing.

>What book?
The Sovereign Individual
>Where to get it?
With explanation: https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#books
From the tracker: tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=69603
Clearnet magnet link also available on the website if you don't have i2p.
>Which chapters and for when?
Chapters 11, we'll finish and discuss this Sunday (21st of May).
>Where to discuss?
For now, keep it in /XMR/.

>Chapter 11: Morality and crime in the "natural economy" of the Information Age

For any more info as to how, as well as for I2P information, check out
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#guide
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#where
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#explore

Past weeks
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week4.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week3.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week1.html

Finishing the book this week, so if there is enough interest taking suggestions as for the next book. So far the following have been brought up:
>The Wealth of Nations, by Adam Smith
>What Has Government Done to Our Money, by Murray N. Rothbard
>Democracy The God That Failed, by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Also for clarity's sake I will be busy in the coming 2 weeks. You might choose to continue with a book of your choice, but I simply won't be here to update the site, or post this and the discussion starters.

>>54984442
you wish

>>54983194
Two baskets are mining rigs (stackable baskets make for super cheap and easy enclosures)
the big ass rackmount case closer to the camera is ultimately going to take over what the tower on the bottom as well as a separate tower running at another location are doing, hosting a mining pool and a test/backup server for that pool, but as you can see it's empty at the moment, working on it.

There's also a thin client stuffed into one of the 5.25 drive bays of the tower and the switch is just your standard netgear 8 port for now. Pelican case is just storing miscellaneous bits for all of them and the little monitor is for when I really fuck something up and cannot even access it over ssh.

>>54979390
based
>>54980292
for normal stuff yes
>>54983743
>Is it worth it to mine monero?
yes! it helps secure the network
if you want to make money, I don't think so

>>54984835
check the price baggie

>>54985537
yes 1xmr is 1xmr

>>54985537
>check the price baggie

Because price action is such an objective measure of value.

>>54985448
yeah no its definitely not profitable lol

still worth it for me.

>>54979104
just received monerochan today
thx monerosupplies anon :)

>>54980242
Reaction to Bittrex delisting was the final nail in the coffin

>>54988819
Kek, copium incoming

What is the best online marketplace these days? It used to be silk road, but I've been away for a long time. Figured you guys would know.

bump
glowjoggers tongue my anus

https://stacker.news/items/179245

This world government crap with a coordinated attack on the common man and crypto is really pissing me off. How much XMR to make it and is there good returns mining?

So what now that ledger is compromised ?
Buying a new air-gaped PC just to make an offline seed to hold XMR is to expensive. Second how do you use defi or p2p without ledger. buy a new laptop every time you want to buy stickers on moneromarket.

Second, how can we short the ledger company.
Third, how will the class action law suit look like and how to join in

So now that Ledger has gone full poz and are getting ready to implement a update that allows their wallets to broadcast private keys and seeds over the internet what's the best alternative hardware wallet for XMR? Is Trezor any good? Does is support multiple coins?

>>54990410
trezor is good, for monero you need the Model T. Keep in mind that trezor's lack a hardware security module like the ones found in ledgers, so in the event the device is stolen, you have a limited window to recover your funds and transfer them to a new wallet. The risk is that the thief or what-have-you extracts the seed from the IC, which can be done either by them, or some third party. So just factor that into whatever risk model you're running.

>>54990410
Trezor only has monero support on their expensive model and besides, they are kinda poz since they partnered up with wasabi (the btc mixer that censors transactions).

Id say foundry devices once the monero fork is ready but it's 200$ and 225$ if you're in europe.

Thinking about getting a used thinkpad with tails and featherwallet but unsure how id implement it, fully airgapped? not airgapped but never do anything outside of using feather?

i could just paperwallet but I would really like to check that my wallet hasn't been drained from time to time :/

>>54990574
>Keep in mind that trezor's lack a hardware security module like the ones found in ledgers, so in the event the device is stolen, you have a limited window to recover your funds and transfer them to a new wallet. The risk is that the thief or what-have-you extracts the seed from the IC, which can be done either by them, or some third party.
holy shit fuck that. I'll probably just set up an air gapped and encrypted linux machine then.

>>54990663
not sure what your threat model is but if it works for you then go for it

>>54990690
Chances of someone stealing a hardware wallet from my house are slim. But in the case that it does happen, I'd rather it be an useless shitbox with an encrypted drive rather than a hardware wallet that can be cracked.

Pirate radio is serious business. Not only does it give us the freedom to hear unfiltered and uncensored content, but it also serves as a means for us to exercise our right to privacy.

The government has been known to monitor our every move, listening in on our conversations, and keeping tabs on our online activity. Pirate radio, on the other hand, offers a space where we can communicate and consume content without fear of government interference.

Sure, some might argue that pirate radio is illegal, but let's not forget that the laws are often in place to protect those in power. The very essence of pirate radio is to challenge the status quo and to provide a voice for the voiceless.

So let's continue to support pirate radio and the fight for privacy. Let's keep our conversations and content away from prying ears and stand up for our rights as citizens. Join me in saying no to government surveillance and yes to freedom of expression!

>>54980242
>Nobody accepts XMR anywhere
Speak for urself bruh, the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it useless or nor accepted, it's one of the tokens that i use virtually every day, and it's been mentioned lately on so many Al platforms as a token to watch out for.
>>54980292
>Monero even worth using for shit like scams
It's worth using, but for scams, hell no

>>54991224

BASED

>>54991224
The only reason Pirate Radio is illegal is because there are laws. The only distinction between legal and illegal is laws. Without laws, there is no seperation between anything. What makes things acceptable is not legalities, as we already know it's based corruption (Rules for thee, but not for me), and we fall back to ethics. Ethics, in a grand majority of social circles, is what ultimately determines acceptable behaviors in impersonal social circles.

>>54990323
hehe, are they waking up

>>54990376
personally I feel comfortable with atleast 100 xmr, that puts you in the patrician class

what do you use to install monero-gui?
I don't trust flatpaks with my money and obviously not windows
is using arch linux the only option?
or do you just compile it and don't bother with updates until you have to

>>54991224
Can someone call captain blackbeard up, still waiting on that donation link to be setup and get the next episodes coming

>>54992517
Usually i goto getmonero and download the linux version. Though I have no idea how arch works since I use linux mint.

>>54988819

DASH not being a privacy coin, is NOT THE SAME THING as DASH's privacy not working, STOP LYING! BTC ain't a privacy coin neither, nor is decred but they BOTH have functioning privacy which is better than XMR since there hasn't been no breaks in theirs

The XMR community is a COMMUNITY OF LIARS. Ya'll started fakin' your daily transactions a couple years ago because NOBODY WAS USING IT! XMR used to only have 2000 to 3000 transactions a day!! DASH has ALWAYS been more popular and more used than XMR, you just CAN'T ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE IMMATURE AND DISHONEST, so you RIG EVERYTHING to make XMR look better because you're a TERRIBLE PERSON!

The XMR community is ALL ASTROTURFED. Ya'll try to hide behind "plausible deniability" so you can make this dishonest arguments and its enough, NOBODY CARES about your stupid coin STFU ALREADY!

>>54984203
Please tell me animal.i2p is for cute animal pictures/videos and not for bestiality porn.

>>54984684
Neat. I won't be in this week but I like the idea

Redpill me on rpc-pay

>>54993157
>lord organic adoption should be imposible

Fucking zfaggots

>>54979068
Feel like I fucked up going all in bros, nothing has changed

https://youtu.be/kYsWtdV4kaU

>>54993468
I don't have the full stack I want, I went all in with my previous savings and I worked a decent amount and I still have a lot more to invest, maybe you should just sell all of it

>>54990645
thoughts on a T440p with i5-4300M for this purpose?

>>54993468

All in on the only coin that's actually used? Comfy.

>>54993157
Kek, the seething is particularly strong here today

>>54995006
yeah my thoughts are the *440's have the shit touchpad without the buttons

For your reading pleasure:
https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/PE-54-2022-INIT/en/pdf

Based thread
Rose is better built for privacy than Monero and altcoinistdao is ideal for finding bluechips than apeoclock desu

>>54996007
no

good morning

>>54990645
>i could just paperwallet but I would really like to check that my wallet hasn't been drained from time to time
in the near future you will be able to do that. with the upcoming seraphis update, view keys will finally be a thing.
you will be able to see all transactions within a wallet just by providing the view key, no seed needed.

>>54995006
personally I'm looking forward to risc-v computers. fuck everything else, if i'm going full schizo, i'll make sure the hardware is not compromised.

>>54995890
>"i am in touch with humanity"

>>54996550
Where can one get a Monero plushie like this?

>>54996701
MB is selling it here https://monerosupplies.com/
Bought one sometime ago.
I am *this* close to poasting her pics here posing with [Unknown] and [Unknown]

You can't make this shit up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7tviCM3Iu0

this is the future that awaits people that doesn't care about their privacy.
kneel to your masters, they know whats good for you.

>>54996697
>risc-v
imo, this is one of the most interesting things going on in the tech space.
i saw this video some time ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QRKpd28NEE
i know the processors he uses are very under powered, but in the near future we might see people building clusters computers from their homes, using fairly powerful processors.
take a look at this:
>https://www.tomshardware.com/news/432-core-occamy-cpu-for-use-in-space-tapes-out
just imagine when risc-v processors become a little more powerful. we will have cheaper computers dedicated to very specific tasks.
will monero have to change its randomx algorithm soon? who knows but i'm very optimistic about the possibilities risc-v will open.

>>54996729
>100 bucks
Blimey, that's quite steep. I'll buy one anyway, small business is the backbone of the economy.

>>54990400
>Buying a new air-gaped PC just to make an offline seed to hold XMR is to expensive.
A used optiplex costs the same as hardware wallets.

>Second how do you use defi or p2p without ledger.
Just don't?

>buy a new laptop every time you want to buy stickers on moneromarket.
Keep using the optiplex. Keep it airgapped, remember?

Also probably worth reminding everyone about Rino multisig wallet that BinaryFate released sort of recently. It's a way saner solution than ledger and their backup.

>>54986202
I had completely missed that she dropped, ordering right now.

>>54997088
>>buy a new laptop every time you want to buy stickers on moneromarket.
>Keep using the optiplex. Keep it airgapped, remember?
How do you that without breaking the airgap?

>Second how do you use defi or p2p without ledger.
Just don't?
- that xmr is just a scam store of value like all crypto and their value is zero, just like bitcorn.

>>54997088
>A used optiplex
intel and AMD cpus have a secondary backdoor-ed cpu in their cpu. In used PCs, there could be a CPU or even a bios malware. Its not much more secure than ledger desu. Only a brand new PC every time I buy 5$ stickers is somewhat secure if it never connects to the intranet and even than it is not a 100% from the WEF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILa3d87Wc7Q

Same goes if not even more cellphones reused a seed storage.
The truth of the matter is, we need something like a ledger to actually be a usable form of money. Otherwise we are just the best version of bitcoin and bitcoin is hot tulip garbage.

The future of finance

>>54996550
holy shit that is so based, ill have to show this to my mom.

>>54996550

Based JihadiChad.

Somebody AI generate a hijab'd Monero-chan holy warrior, its about damn time.

>>54998641
Those are cops btw

>>54998710

I know, they were the only ones I could find wearing a hijab. The ISIS broads are in full ninja gear.

Tho you could have Jihadi Monero-chan be a ninja as long as something else made her identity obvious.

>>54998311
>How do you that without breaking the airgap?
You have a view only wallet that you generate transactions for the airgapped wallet to sign. Realistically you can copy the unsigned and signed transactions back and forth with a usb. If that's too risky for you then you can come up with another method of transfering the data like generating qr codes and using a webcam. Using CDs would be pretty safe.

>- that xmr is just a scam store of value like all crypto and their value is zero, just like bitcorn.
More like defi is just a scam and I don't care about thinking about solutions for the poorly designed account based systems that trade nothing but ponzis anyway.

>CPUs have xmr seed detectors and 5g modems secretly built in
You, know it doesn't, of course. Don't connect it to the internet. Just don't ever do it, why would you? You never wanted to browse the web in your Ledger, did you?

>vid
Make a Faraday cage room if you need to. Run the equivalent of a cellphone jammer. Obviously this isn't in 99.999% of people's threat model.

>we need something like a ledger to actually be a usable form of money
Not really but it might help. Cold wallets and hot wallets is a pretty decent system. Sensible risk management is all you need but people feel safer consooming a product than doing a little bit of thinking.

>>54998823
>qr code
That seems pretty convenient.
Is there an airgap hardware wallet that supports xmr?

>>55000032
What do you mean? I'm talking about running a standard wallet on a computer that never touches the internet.

>>55000089
Just out of curiosity, how would you maintain the blockchain to make transactions?

>>55001053
>maintain the blockchain to make transactions?
remote nodes.

>>55001226
How do you plan to connect to those nodes if you're airgapped?

>>55001053
You could copy over the transaction request and sign it using the airgapped computer before copying the signed transaction back to your networked pc.
Personally, it seems like a little too much effort to be worth it. I store my crypto keys on a spare chinkpad laptop running Qubes OS and the pseudo airgap achieved via virtualization is enough for me.

>>55001273
ah sorry, misunderstood. The other anon suggested : You have a view only wallet that you generate transactions for the airgapped wallet to sign.
Not sure if this would work in practice, especially for day to day usage

>>54998823
>You have a view only wallet that you generate transactions for the airgapped wallet to sign. Realistically you can copy the unsigned and signed transactions back and forth with a usb. If that's too risky for you then you can come up with another method of transfering the data like generating qr codes and using a webcam. Using CDs would be pretty safe.
can you a youtube instruction video or something how would this work

>>55001316
>>55001324
Thanks for your answers. I need to understand the paranoia of the chinkpad/heckin secure os/airgap combo I keep seeing in these threads. How is it any different than keeping the keys on an encrypted flash drive, only to use at transaction time?

Secondly, how would one get the signed desired transaction to the blockchain, if it would require a separate, networked wallet, with presumably a different address?

>>55001429
>How is it any different than keeping the keys on an encrypted flash drive, only to use at transaction time?
The difference is that, when using the airgap, your crypto keys are never directly exposed to a device with internet access, so the chances of some malware being able to siphon your keys is effectively zero, whereas in your scenario, malware would be able to access your crypto keys during the period of time in which the flash drive was plugged in and unencrypted. Honestly, though, the chances of your keys being stolen this way are pretty low, but it has happened before and will keep happening to some people.
>Secondly, how would one get the signed desired transaction to the blockchain
You can use the daemon to broadcast a signed transaction to the network. The network will see that the transaction is valid and it will be mined and processed like any other transaction.

>>55001509
>the chances of your keys being stolen this way are pretty low
Thanks for admitting this, as I was starting to think it was truly fud and not well founded paranoia we are known for. I genuinely feel bad for the sort of people that genuinely need to think about airgapped rigs, like what happened to jim stone recently.

I'm looking at the monerod options right now and don't see anything like "send-signed-tx" option or a "tx-file" argument. Please don't think I'm naysaying, its just that as long as I have been using xmr and lurking these threads, I have never heard of this feature.

>>55001670
>Thanks for admitting this, as I was starting to think it was truly fud and not well founded paranoia we are known for.
I think it depends on how much funds you're storing in your cold wallet. For the vast majority of users, using Monero the normie way is fine. If you're holding a life changing amount of money, then perhaps it's worth it to go the extra mile when it comes to security if there's even a small chance that all that could get stolen by malicious software.

Constructing manual transactions is possible in XMR, but it's more tedious and requires more steps than Bitcoin due to its architecture. https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2868/is-there-any-way-to-construct-a-transaction-manually

>>55001743
>https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2868/is-there-any-way-to-construct-a-transaction-manually
thank you link. bookmarking.

However this is impractical for day to day usage. Far less efficient that using fiat and a credit card. So its not no longer viable as usable money. without the larp/speculation.

The only reasonable thing to do (if one doesn't hold millions) is just continue using the ledger or a more hotter wallet like cake or monejuro and just hope for the best

>>55002583
Right, airgapping is just for cold storage. It's akin to keeping something in a safe deposit box instead of in your checking account. If you're a normie who just wants to buy weird shit online, then XMR gui wallet + Tails is what I would recommend if you want to be extra safe and secure.

>>55002866
>If you're a normie who just wants to buy weird shit online, then XMR gui wallet + Tails

wait up. So now people who use XMR are normies? and hodlers and bitfags are L33T or some shit XD

From my point of view it the other way around.

>>55003016
Yeah, there are plenty of normies who use XMR. People who just want to buy some special products from the internet and couldn't really care to learn much about things like cryptography, opsec, cryptocurrency, airgapping, etc. Just install tails, follow some tutorials and be done with it

>>55001743
>13 step process to be anonimoos
Even the help command on the cli wallet doesn't list those expert commands without specifying the command you want help with. Thanks for the info.

>>55003192
>13 step process to be anonimoos
Monero gives you anonymity on its own, but it is not some magical software which automatically makes you secure from every single possible attack vector that could possibly exist in the digital world. If your threat model includes possibly getting pwned by malware, then you have to take extra steps to account for that, no matter which cryptocurrency you're using.

So what's the fastest way to go from Bank -> Monero so I can pay for things?

>>54996550

>>55003446
Okay nevermind it looks like: buying Avax on Cake Wallet, then exchanging to XMR, then sending to a new XMR wallet seems to be the quickest
Am I mostly correct in this statement?

>>55003547
Nevermind you can't create an Avax wallet in Cake Wallet, LTC it is

>>55003674
Yes thats likely the fastest way, maybe not the most private method but with some basic precautions its fine

>>54990323
>1 sat = 1 sat
they will never learn

>>54993157
mother of all baggies

>>54998311
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

>>54990323
HAHAHA

>>55004664
For me, it’s this one
>nobody can take your bitcoin from you (except for the fedniggers who can lean on the nodes to not validate any transactions coming from your wallet)
Remember, kids, the most secure transactions are the ones that can’t be proven to have ever happened unless the participants choose to reveal them

>>54979068
Hey Monero bros. I used to know how to do shit, but I bought Link in late 17 and I've just been mindlessly bagholding since.

Going to a festival next month and need to figure out how to buy on dark web again. I've got Chromebook and an old USB with tails that I last used for the same stuff about 5 years ago.

So my question is if I need to update Tails and what market you recommend and more importantly what's the easiest way to buy some Monero quickly without KYC so I can buy personal amounts.

Also, is there a mixer I should use?

Thanks MoneroChads.

>>55005710
Bump

>>54995431
>>55004030

I don't care why you won't explain your infinite inflation garbage, XMR IS A CLOWN COIN with an uncapped supply! SHUT UP!

XMR had less transactions FOR YEARS until they started faking them. NOBODY ACCEPTS XMR and you tryna get around that using a superificial argument cuz YOU A LIAR! DASH's community AIN'T ON REDDIT, its in Venezuela, Brazil, Jamaica, Mexico, Europe, Nigeria, and Thailand. DASH has got a MUCH MUCH larger community than XMR. DASH is accepted at over 150,000 stores ALL OVER THE WORLD! XMR isn't even accepted at 1000.

BTC is older than XMR. BTC has WAY MORE TRANSACTIONS THAN XMR. Block for block XMR is BLOATED AND WORTHLESS!

You rely on superficial metrics that YOUR COMMUNITY IS DELIBERATELY MANIPULATING to make yaselves look better cuz you are a LAME ASS COIN!

It ain't hard to prove. XMR only had 2000 transactions a day a couple years ago. A couple years ago XMR WAS MUCH MORE POPULAR THAN IT IS NOW GENIUS! XMR threads used to get hundreds of comments and upvotes. NOW BARELY NOTHING. Yet you wanna act like more ppl are usin' it, even tho its LESS popular now than back then and JUST AS HARD TO USE. YOU make NO sense and you show how LOW YOUR INTELLIGENCE is by believing BS cuz it makes your stupid feelings feel better. You are insecure and weak!

The XMR community BULLIED EVERYONE into IGNORING DASH and hyping Monero for YEARS YOU FREAKIN' CLOWN! You are a gaslighting piece of crap!

SIT DOWN, SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP PROMOTING GARBAGE YOU LYING SACK OF EXCREMENT!

>>55005710
Search dark dot fail and dread forum, you can find all the answers there

>>55005938
>NOBODY ACCEPTS XMR
lol

>>54993456

> official cryptocurrency of the panopticon
> integrated and supported by many financial institutions
> intel, paypal, cashapp, exxon, and other publicly traded company support

Quite the takeover. Satoshi would be proud.

>>55005938
> XMR threads used to get hundreds of comments and upvotes. NOW BARELY NOTHING

Uh the entire board is slow during crypto winter, and was more active during a bull market...

>>55005938
Emotional, are you a woman by chance?

>>54993456
>your blockchain's privacy doesn't matter because whenever you buy something you dox yourself anyway
Wow bitcoiners are stupid. Yes, I want Amazon to send things to my address. No, I don't want Amazon and their employees to see the contents of my wallet and all my past and future transactions.

>>55001316
>it seems like a little too much effort to be worth it
If you did all your transactions like that it would be way too much effort. It's something you do occasionally to transfer hodl funds into a hot wallet that you spend from until you run out. If you're just holding you don't even need to do that tricky bit. You just create the cold wallet on the airgapped computer, save that on paper, and copy a view only version of the wallet to your normal pc so you can see the xmr arrive from the exchange or wherever.

>>55007247
I can't get over the bicoiner's stupidity. When you buy drugs off the darkweb you give your real address to the drug guy. Do bitcoiners imagine we think there's some magical property of Monero that anonimyses everything about you? Monero limits transaction information to what needs to be known by who needs to know it. Does the drug dealer need to know my wallet balance? No. Does Amazon need to know about my transaction to a darknetmarket? No. Do I want either of them to know those things? Hell no.

Guys I am soon to be first time buyer of monero I have some questions for you guys I have a cake wallet but I was wondering how to buy XMR on it privately and safely don't want to use my credit card can I use a debit gift card to buy crypto or is there another way send me your wisdom thank you

>>55007387
Check out local monero, cash by mail is probably the most private but also the slowest. It really depends on your threat model as to how extensive you want to be in your precautions

>>54979068
monero is the comfiest hold

>>55007341
Isnt there a service that stores your packages for you to pick up later?
If so, there would be no need to reveal your home address. I've seen some amazon lockers around the city but i wonder if there is anything less cucked.

bros I hate feds

>>55007736
Yea, its called a po box but that comes with its own issues like being pointless unless you open it under a false id, which would then open you up to additional charges if caught, not to mention you have to go pick up your packages in person.

>>55008004
>bros I hate feds

BASED

Currently offloading all my crypto from Ledger to secure wallets. XMR (my biggest stack by far) transaction took seconds and costed pennies. BTC will cost me $183 dollars to move and will take hours. Fuck this gay coin.

>>55009858
>secure wallets
which one

>>54979068
the Economist is trying to co-opt Cypherpunk movement with it's Its All Ogre! hitpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rCKo4CBgM
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rCKo4CBgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rCKo4CBgM

>>55009929
>which one
I just set up new wallets for XMR (Monero GUI) and BTC (Electrum) on an fresh install, air gapped, linux machine. I'll decide later if I want to take them online. But I haven't moved the BTC yet because I want to see if transaction fees calm the fuck down.

>>54993456
>the point of cryptocurrency is to separate money from the state
>your coin is bad because you haven’t been able to convince someone to trade you more state issued currency for it
>it’s also bad because state-adjacent companies haven’t embraced it
Buttcorn maximalism is one hell of a drug

>>55009998
something went wrong wrong on my linux mint and I lost a few files XD.
At this point holding BTC ona custodial exchange is more cypherpunk XD KEK. at least you can take a lone vs fiat with it

the future of money

>>55010354
>At this point holding BTC ona custodial exchange is more cypherpunk
I'm beginning to resent holding it at all. XMR has spoiled me.

How will Monerocucks ever recover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0C3XajSIAg&t=161s

>>54995890
>500+ pages
Any summary?

Monero deserves a layer 2 scaling solution.

When are wypipo going to stop the racism and give Mone(g)ro a layer 2!

>>55012707
Nobody in Monero wants a "layer 2 scaling solution" because layer 2 scaling is a retarded gimmick.

>>54991224
JET SET RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What happened to Haveno? Wasn’t it supposed to save Monero on and off ramps? Did they exit scam

>>55013184

Its still being worked on. Serai as well.

>>55013614
That's a man.

>>55013614
jacked af

Monerochan AI "Music Video":
https://youtu.be/ebzH3B1F25A

With everything from Intel and AMD backdoored, why isn't there more push for open source hardware?

>>55016743
We are making the alternatives to glownigger CPUs as we speak. RISC-V is to CPUs as the GNU Project/Linux is to operating systems.

The backdoors in Intel and AMD chips is the Achilles heel to having truly safe (modern) computers, as even though Linux is great and necessary, it technologically has no ability to turn off the glownigger features of the CPU in the underlying computer. RISC-V is a project going on for the last decade to make an instruction set architecture for CPUs that is free and open source and doesn't rely on x86 or ARM architecture. Compared to GNU/Linux stuff it's much less developed, but already we have a feature-complete basic CPU instruction set and manufactures have been making single board computers using RISC-V, and Linux nerds have been able to get it to run desktop Linux distros (e.g. Debian) successfully.

If you're tech savvy, you can already opt out of the glownig computer systems entirely if you're fine with using a single board computer. I would guess that within a few years we're going to see people selling complete packages (e.g. laptops) with all the peripherals and a Linux distro installed so that less technical people will reasonably able to opt-out of Microsoft, Apple, AMD, Intel, etc. spyware entirely. Even for non-privacy/security people it makes financial sense because you have retarded licensing fees you have to pay to AMD/Intel if you're a chip fabricator who wants to produce general purpose CPUs, RISC-V allows you to cut out that expense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykKnc86UtXg

>>55017364
https://www.raptorcs.com for any whales here

>>55015950
Is this what having a stroke feels like

>>55017364
That's neat, I could be content with performance that's 15 years behind mainstream if it's guaranteed free of bullshit. How does verification of the silicon work? Must be extremely expensive to do on a full chip

>>55005985
>>55007031
>>55007042

Cope only more cope and lies from you animals!

DASH is better, DASH Platform ain't based on smart contracts but DATA contracts, that let you store your app data on the network for a small fee. That way, you got a TRUE CLOUD SOLUTION. You can run ya app anywhere and point it to the DASH platform api and get ya data 24/7. Its all encrypted, private and scalable. On top of that, DASH will also have smart contracts but done efficiently and using the masternodes who are paid computer service owners.

This CLOWN COIN simply can't compare so you have to resort to spreading lies about the competition.

i tried buying without KYC by using localmonero and cashapp but it's such a hassle and there are premiums i pay. is it worth it? or should i just go back to using conbase to buy btc/ltc as an onramp?

>>55017364

Unfathomably based.

>>55018497
It's up to your threat model.
if you onramp to litecoin and then swap with non kyc then you are fine. But you are still giving a lot of metadata to coinbase. up to you.

>>54984203
>Why bother?

to any agents reading : i'm just here for the anime tiddies

>>55007736
Anon you can get mailboxes that aren't PO boxes, they typically are for business. Look for mail stores in your area, or online for a virtual mailbox. I don't really know if they want ID, but I'd be willing to bet you can convince the mail store to not take an ID and pay in cash. If you gave them a fake ID it wouldn't be a crime (afaik) either.

>>54979390
>>54986202
didn't notice these two previously. very happy to see them finally getting into peoples hands :)

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>55017364
Based as fuck

>>54996935
>I'll buy one anyway, small business is the backbone of the economy.
Based.
Are you gonna use monerochan as a fleshlight too? like that anon over there?

>>55019018
>If you gave them a fake ID it wouldn't be a crime (afaik) either.
A glow discharge is a plasma formed by the passage of electric current through a gas. It is often created by applying a voltage between two electrodes in a glass tube containing a low-pressure gas. When the voltage exceeds a value called the striking voltage, the gas ionization becomes self-sustaining, and the tube glows with a colored light. The color depends on the gas used.

>>55018497
That's the price of true non-KYC these days. It's unfortunate. Personally I can't afford it and just use Cash app for BTC and then swap at tradeoger. Cash app is KYC but as soon as its exchanged to XMR the trail ends there. That and I always immediately spend any and all converted XMR on drugs and whores.

>>55021416
>and whores.
Do hores accept xmr these days?

>>55021488
You’re not running a very good business if you aren’t

>>55021416
>I always immediately spend any and all converted XMR on drugs and whores.

This Is The Way.

>>55010354
Whoever made that image must have a small understanding of European history ngl

I need help, what is better?
>swapping XMR to other crypto like BTC (Atomic swap? What do I use?) without using CEX
or
>depositing XMR to Kraken and then swapping it
What option has lower fees? I bought all my XMR on localmonero. This is a good currency, but not so good investment.

Question for you monerochads, I recently installed graphene is on a new pixel 6a and one of the cool features is the ability to have multiple user profiles on the phone. My thinking is that I could have my main profile setup for normal use, then a second profile with independent encryption, specifically for my hot wallets, allowing for more restrictive connectivity settings etc. Anyone with more experience with graphene, please weigh in and let me know if its a worthwhile step to take.

>>55012225
heh

>>54996935
>I'll buy one anyway
Yes. Mine arrives tomorrow.

>>54996550

>>55023168

NEVER FORGET

>>55023212
>assumed it was going to be under $10
>on a $50 transfer
Are btc maxis really OK paying 20% for small money transfers?

>>55023286

>JUST USE LIGHTNING, BRO!

>>55023286
Giving away 96% of your money in the transaction itself is all part and parcel for "Plan B". No wonder the orange pill is a hard one for people to swallow.

>>55017364
While this is incomprehensibly based, I am nervous about shit like chyyyyna and jewgle being as enthusiastic about it as they are. Maybe it is just a move to reduce licensing costs/dependence on burgers but maybe it isn’t, hard to know at this point

Fucking hell, my ledger is hardly readable. I don't even use it often (less than 10 times) After googling, I find out thousands of others also have the same problem. I can't believe they have the audacity to sell shitty quality product like this. Fucking OLED and their burn in, my desktop LCD monitor never has any problem for 19 years.

Daily reminder that if a company release a paid product for the first time and you buy it, you're the beta tester.

>>55021488
unironically yes. well they will take BTC or USDC and you pay them with XMR using the pay feature on trocador.app

Get a load of all these corporate sponsorships, somebody kill me if MoneroKon turns into this.

>>55023286
uh, you shouldn't be doing money transfers with bitcoin
it's a store of wealth, don't expect it to be a currency

>>55025437
>it's a store of wealth

lol I love this meme!

>>55024497
>Buy used mini office pc for 90-120€
>Take out SSD/HDD
>Take out bluetooth/wifi if the pc has it
>Download and verify Tails
>Download and verify Featherwallet
>Disconnect LAN
>Set up persistant storage and add featherwallet to it
>Create wallet with extra passphrase, write down seed on paper but remember passphrase, write down viewkey
>Add viewkey to wallet on a different machine/phone
>Send a test tx, check view-only wallet if it arrives
>Reboot Tails, check that you can log in, restore wallet from the seed youve written down and check if viewkey is the same

Never plug in a storage device, never connect LAN, always let Tails gracefully shut down (although you shouldn't really have a reason to ever boot that PC again).

This is a really extreme form of cold wallet with zero trust involved (besides trusting featherwallet seed generation is implemented securely).

Alternatively, if you want a usable wallet and have a local node running in your LAN, you can keep the PC connected to LAN and directly to your node without ever starting TOR after the initial featherwallet download (local traffic isn't blocked by Tails).
You can still sync the chain, send and see incoming transactions but should be very secure.

Comments on these two methodes greatly appreciated!

>>55025371
Monerokon has like a 50/50 ratio of sponsors that were and weren't accepted. For example bitmain (lol) and beldex ("sharia compliant privacy project" kek).

>another thread where 50% of the posts are seething about bitcoin
reminder that there hasn't been a single successful alt with a community built on cope and seethe

>>55022519
Bumping this for interest

>>55025522
>seething about bitcoin

Yes, if only Monero:

>was being systematically abandoned by the black market
>was being propped up by orchestrated wash trading
>required a $30+ TX fee to send $5

>>55022147
#your race is over, but keep seething and lying to the bitter end neanderthal

>>55003446
Bank > cashapp or strike > swap btc

>>55025522
>a single successful alt with a community built on cope and seethe
that's literally all of them. Monero is the only community that is NOT build on cope and seethe because it is usable in the real world

>>55015950
wow I want to hear a different song though

Sorry for btc related post but has anything really seethe-provoking been planted on the blockchain yet?

>>55026430
https://youtu.be/SB9tOBmRDGc?t=27
This one i made is somewhat decent with some exceptions.

People who actually have a clue about mixing audio can make really good stuff already. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1gbY6ohs8

>>55026521
>Sorry for btc related post but has anything really seethe-provoking been planted on the blockchain yet?

>>55026521
Funnily enough they did receive goatse within hours, but it was manually blacklisted from the web interfaces, not necessarily the chain itself. Mordinals had the same thing, but with gay porn within a few days. Other than gay porn and goatse, I don't think genuine cheese pizza got uploaded ever, it is weird. Or simply nobody noticed.

>>55026245
I'll say CryptMi. Strike and cashapp are a little restriced.

>>55026873
What about things like mohammed caricatures? The internet is truly dead if nobody went for such a low hanging trollfruit

>>55026245
I ended up doing Kraken -> Wallet -> Wallet since I already have Kraken set up. Was very quick

Bitshit is looking quite toxic at the moment

Might I suggest a crash to 0 for this dogshit coin

What’s the best marketplace right now? I want to use car to buy something.

>>55023370
>sell out seth
Is he still shilling king shitcoin?

>>55027357
Yea he's working with foundation.

>>55024497
>my ledger is hardly readable.
The Trezor T has a nice display.

Infinite supply shitcoin. Hard pass.

>>55025501
Interesting setup, it should be safe enough. I'll save your post and think about it. However, I don't really like unofficial wallet like featherwallet. I'd rather use official monero wallet, like Monero GUI 0.18.2.2.
Also, I think post like this should be saved on pastebin and added to each new thread.

>>55028060
A quick check reveals that Trezor is using LCD screen, which is nice. I'm considering Trezor since Ledger Recover scandal, but I read that Trezor T has fake hardware problem. Buying screen replacement for my ledger isn't a solution because I'll have the same problem again.

For now, I'll wait a bit, probably 2-3 months and do some research before buying a new hardware wallet again. If my ledger / trezor breaks again, I'll never use a fucking hardware wallet again, ever. I'll definitely switch to separate SSD method. With Ubuntu and encrypted /home partition it should be enough. If my SSD breaks in 1 year, I'll just claim the warranty.

>>55027025
>Bitshit is looking quite toxic at the moment
>Might I suggest a crash to 0 for this dogshit coin
Dagerously based

>>55023370
so he just says he could track it but doesn't?

>>55021488
some do

>>55028739
it's infinite only
for you because
you are
gay
faggot

>>55028739
just like gold

Go to my site and mine sone monero bitch

>ITT midwits holding and circlejerking over a dead 2014 shitcoin

>>55031527
this graph doesn't even look that bad for a supposedly shitcoin

>>55031527

lol he still thinks Bitcoin's fake & gay price action is supposed to impress us

come on let's get more workers gogogo

Best way to receive packages anonymously?

Nothing being delivered is illegal or dangerous (10000 XMR stickers). In the age in which we are living any of our data is sold to other companies, we are going to lose our privacy. For online purchases there are ways to pay anonymously (with Monero and mails/accounts with no real personal info) but the problem is shipping. It is nonsensical to have the utmost attention in payment but be forced to enter your name and address. I know that lockers exist but, in my area, they cannot be configured with other shipments.

This is not for general online shopping because I think it is too difficult to manage but only for special things.

Do you have any ideas for anonymous shipments in Europe? Locker companies that interact with other shipments ? I want remain in the legacy, not interact with USPS with fake ID.

What is the Monero make it stack bros?

>>55031759

>>55031759
been a while since I've seen this posted.

>>55031586
Two workers now

>>55031777
nice hashrate. what's the hardware on that?

>>55031794
I got a Ryzen 7 3700x
It's mined by CPU right?

>>55031813
>I got a Ryzen 7 3700x
>It's mined by CPU right?
damn I must be a retard because I don't get anything close to that with my 3900x. But yeah, it's primarily CPU although moneroocean does take advantage of your GPU as well.

>>55030310
>so he just says he could track it but doesn't?

He correctly points out that he's an amateur as opposed to billion-dollar blockchain analytics corporations.

>>55031716
There are companies that offer reshipping services.
You obviously still have to give your real address to the reshipping company but you don't have to give it to any random store anymore.

In case you plan on ordering 10k stickers from monerosupplies.com, please don't lol. At that volume it's most likely cheaper for you to have them made locally.

>>55031827
Go to the website and click on mine and you can have my hashrates bros. I'll give away the mined monero. Special deal no strings attached. I just want vipbiz to take off...

>>55031813
>>55031827
I had the same hardware, upgraded to 5900X, I still find it not worth the trouble. A 50$ a year isn't worth it

>>55031872
If we get a 100 people to click on mine it'll be worth it maybe

>>55031872
Yeah, I stopped obsessively paying attention to mining a while back. Now I just leave the GUI wallet runnning and minning p2pool mini on my gaming pc that I never use. I check it every once in a while to make sure it still running then go about my day.

>>55031910
If we get 100 people with an average of 100hs we'd get 10mhs which is almost 2 monero per day

>>55031958
Oh no sorry I meant $1 per day... Still

>>55016743
>>55017364
What can those backdoors even do when you use a separate NIC? Just plug in some $10 network card and the backdoors are useless because they require using the built in networking hardware.

>>55031716
Put a fake name on your mailbox/door bell while you're waiting for the delivery. This is even easier if there is tracking because you know exactly which day you'll need to do it. Otherwise you might not get some mail. Obviously this only really works if you live in a house with multiple tenants. If there is some unused mailbox you could "repurpose" even better. You could even do it with some other house in your neighborhood if you know it's an unused mailbox and it's the kind where you can pull out the mail without opening it properly.

>>55032800
They have integrated radios

>>55033441
>not turning your whole house into a Faraday cage
ngmi

>>55023706
Open source standards are good for the tech industry as a whole. Just as an organization can customize Linux to suit their needs, perhaps RISC-V processors will be easier to modify and secure compared to Intel's black box CPUs. Remember the whole fiasco with Spectre/Meltdown?

>>55031544
>he thinks 99% of Monero's volume isn't wash trading

>>55034032
>he thinks 99% of Monero's volume isn't wash trading

Wash trading happens on centralized exchanges, Monero has been delisted from how many now?

Wtf is wrong with you people. Why did that other Monero thread have a child?

>>55034076
That child identified herself as a roastie, now GTFO of my general

>>55034061
>Ackshually Monero is so delisted it can't be pumped
Lemme guess, this is somehow bullish. I bet when Binance and Kraken finally drop it, it'll go straight to $10000.

Your participation needed:

Global Hyperinflation. General /GHG/ >>>/pol/427712274

>>55031527
All this chart shows is that Monero was a speculative bubble in 2017 and since it has essentially been at parity with Bitcoin, with Bitcoin slightly outperforming in general.

>>55034130

Delistings mean no more paper XMR being sold.
Delistings mean organic price discovery.
Delistings mean truly permisionless on/off ramps become the default.

As far as what that means for the price, who knows? Maybe Monero is overvalued. Or maybe its undervalued.

But what you can be quite certain of is that XMR won't drop to zero now that it is becoming the preferred medium of exchange for black markets, demand for it can only increase in future as that sector expands and grows.

Meanwhile, BTC keeps bleeding actual adoption and becoming evermore reliant on increasingly retarded narratives to keep the plate spinning.

>>55034286
>thermodynamic savings
What the actual fuck?

>>55034341

His usual pseudo-academic schtick, something something Bitcoin something something digital energy something something cyber hornets.

0.00005 xmr so far
Click mine bitch

>>55034429
what the fuck are you babbling about?

One more thing:

MONERO IS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE TAXMAN PROBLEM.

The absolute state of financial sovereignty

>>55033930
>Remember the whole fiasco with Spectre/Meltdown
Nothingburger. For me it's
>mitigations=off

I'm completely crypto illiterate but some guy just sent me 5 USD for dumping all my Becca hochman collection.. So what the fuck am I supposed to do with it now that I have a cake wallet?

>>55034470
Go to my site(my name tag) scroll down and click on mine.
It doesn't show up on the phone I think which is whatever cause you can't mine on the phone anyways.

>>55035934
Use it to buy a giftcard or something. The app is pretty easy to use.

>>55035985
>$0.01
a penny saved is a penny earned.

>>55035934
any nudes?

>>55036870
I wish.. Unfortunately she hates her own body and seethes eternally whenever anyone draws attention to her massive tits, which of course just makes me wanna do it more

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Was craig wright accurate about the bitcoin whitepaper and its technology? I cant seem to find the discussions on youtube anymore. What is the endgame of all the phony crypto money when this whole thing implodes leaving only monero and maybe bitcoin cash around? America turns into detroit everywhere except some fintech scam oligarch kingdoms in places like miami and we are left using monero to try and escape their control?

>>55034395

You shitcoiners are too low IQ to recognize true genius.

Sneed.

>>55037644
Checked, mid b8

>told mining isn't profitable anymore
>in 3 months recouped the cost of the build off monero alone

lol

>>55038078
I highly doubt this.

>>55038078
Idk how, my 401k's investment portfolio out performs my mining operation.

>>55038078
did you buy this property perchance

>>55038078
poast your setup

>>55037262

Reminder to not preorder a 500$ rock-pi of which so far only renders exist.

>>54992794
from arch you can download it from the aur

>>55017624
>That's neat, I could be content with performance that's 15 years behind mainstream if it's guaranteed free of bullshit. How does verification of the silicon work? Must be extremely expensive to do on a full chip
https://libreboot.org/
The best laptop this works on is the thinkpad t440p however it still requires a minimal amount of the IME to work even though it's still neutered
If you want it fully removed get the x200/t400/w500 series thinkpads and flash this however the amount of the ime left on the newer versions is so minimal its basically neutered

Chudbros... what's our next move??
>In one case, Himonidis found around $700,000 worth of monero on a MacBook that turned up in discovery.
>“We found something called a command line wallet for monero,” Himonidis said, describing it as a kind of software wallet. “You can’t find it with the Finder on the Mac. You need to go into a command line prompt to access this wallet — a Bash shell command on a Mac environment.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/20/bitcoin-in-divorce-how-spouses-hide-assets-crypto-hunters-find-them.html

>>55040045
in this scenario they would have found my xmr hot wallet I guess. my cold storage xmr exists only as a seed memorized in my head so good luck finding that with computer "forensics"

>>54984197
i still can't believe he posted that and genuinely thought he's right

>>55034395
I like saylor because he's such a good representation of maxipad pseudointellectualism.
They're all so retarded and yet so overconfident.
>this is their idol

>>55031794
>>55031813
No, that is an extremely bad hashrate. Go check the xmrig site for benchmarks. 3900x is 14,000h/s without trying very hard. 3700x should be 2/3rds of that. That's like 100x faster than what you're getting with your web miner. Web miners are not remotely competitive on random X. Sorry if your website was banking on that, you'll have to change the plan.

>>55040443
yeah my bad. Like I said I'm kind of out of the loop on mining these days.

>>55035934
Hold and buy more. Think you could easily trade it for a gift card on cake wallet but then you'll want to rope when we 100x. Also post more Becca.

Why should I buy XMR when zero knowledge proofs exist? Zcash objectively has better tech.

/XMR/ general weekly book club - ending the book, WEEK 6

This is the sixth week of the book club, with chapter 11 of the book "The Sovereign Individual" by Sir William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson.

Now a brief (but not comprehensive enough) description of the chapter:

>Chapter 11: morality and crime in the "natural economy" of the Information Age
>The end of an era is usually a period of intense corruption. As the bonds of the old system dissolve, the social ethos dissolves with it, creating an environment in which people in high places may combine public purposes with private criminal activity.
Hinted on by the previous chapters, a transitionary period will not bear the best of sights. Artificial reality, selective news feeds, and abundant information makes it ever so easy for people to get trapped in virtual bubbles. Furthermore, as violence downscale, terrorism and organized crime will become more widespread. The latter one increasing in scope, seeping into the nation-states in their decline in a weird sort of "privatization of governments". That terrorism has of course not stayed solely inside the real world, with small groups of hackers being able to control hundreds of millions of devices or hold corporations with billions of dollars in assets at ransom. The book goes on to state that not all cultures are created equal, and society's success heavily depends on its morality relating to the idea of cultural evolution. However, unlike the previous ages, the authors predict the most successful of the society to lack shared strong moral, but rather be individualistic radicals who value efficiency.

Questions:
1. What do you think of the book, its methodology, and the conclusions reached?
2. Just as the collapse of Rome brought Christianity or the end of the Middle Ages brought Protestantism, will the Information Age bring forward a new religion or simply just a new set of morals?

3. Has the cybereconomy manifested itself as the book predicted it'd? I'd personally say that DNMs are really close to the ideal that the book describes with close-knit communities in which reputation is everything, tho they have a limited scope. However, rise of other types of gray market parallel and circular economies are promising. What are your thoughts?

And to end it on a personal note, the book has been a very intriguing one for me and presented numerous non-conventional arguments and ideas. We are now accustomed to change, but the turn of the millennia was indeed a period of large-scale change just like the authors envisioned. 9/11 and the rise of China has reconfigured the basic concept of international power relationships. Followed by 2008 and the subsequent FED subsidized bull-run have reconfigured financial markets. Corporations are increasingly "virtual", and this has only been accelerated by COVID. Politics has shifted to be widely accepted as a theater, with the nationalist and egalitarian sentiments rising in contrast with apolitical solutions. Terrorism is a norm and nobody bat an eye when a military coup was included in a YouTube video of a dance lesson, or when people started fighting back against that new system with 3d printed firearms. And of course, the internet rose to beyond being simply mainstream, but rather a function of normal life, with this very site getting created in 2003.

But as always, feel encouraged to share your own thoughts, opinions, or summaries.

The site will be updated now on Tuesday morning with this post and discussions to leave a bit more space. See previous weeks' ones at
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week5.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week4.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week3.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week2.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/week1.html
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/sig/index.html

>>55040800

1. Monero also uses ZKP
2. Monero has a proven track record of "stealing" and incorporating *mature* outside tech as necessary.
3. ZK-SNARKs are already being explored as a replacement for ring signatures

https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/100

BONUS: YWNBAW. Your corporate spycoin will be cannibalized for its tech while the token itself will wither away into obscurity. Cope, sneed and dilate.

>>55041017

We've already gone over this: Halo2 belongs to the Zcash community that paid for its development.

No license = no dice. Fuck around and find out.

>>55041168
Kek, the absolute state of zodlers. Dick riding zooko while being a compliant little pay pig. Your tech is being waster by the hoard of retards that aren't even using shielded pools, 1% z addresses fucking kek

>>55041168
Wtf is this cringe ass meme. Looks like a clueless minimum wage boomer was tasked with making a meme promoting zcash.

Hi hi hello how do I buy shrooms with monero? A hot chick I work with wants to do them with me but idk where to get them

>>55041301
>>Wtf is this cringe ass meme. Looks like a clueless minimum wage boomer was tasked with making a meme promoting zcash.

Oh, you haven't met the legendary Zeme Team yet? You're in for a treat!

https://zeme.team/

>>55041380
fucking kek

>>55041309
>Hi hi hello how do I buy shrooms with monero? A hot chick I work with wants to do them with me but idk where to get them

>>55026963
there are already multiple instances of dead-to-rights child abuse on the bitcoin chain and they've been there for years, I don't really think you get worse than that.

>>55041168
>>Community and investors
More like bag-holders at this point.
>>55041380
It's revolting seeing Zshills resorting to scamming poor south americans and africans who don't know better to make their garbage "cryptocurrency" seem worth it. It's just astroturfing at this point.
Do not bother replying to me Zcash 50-cent army, nobody here falls for your tricks.

>>55041444
>dead-to-rights
What does this mean? Isn't it just links to cheese pizza that was there for years, not the actual pictures

I know this is ironic shilling but the fact that zcash has optional privacy to please all the governments, glowies and other "investors" and then SOMEHOW manage to have even worse price action than xmr... and no DM usage... and bloated chain... like I don't think you could fail harder even if you tried.

I just bought my first XMR, just one question, why does it take 30 minutes to receive coins?

>>55041566
>It's revolting seeing Zshills resorting to scamming poor south americans and africans who don't know better to make their garbage "cryptocurrency" seem worth it.

Don't forget the jeets!

>>55041950
>why does it take 30 minutes to receive coins?

Coins are received near-instantly. New outputs are locked for 10 confirmations.

>>55041982
Yeah sure, but when I bought it from localmonero I had to wait 30 minutes and it takes additional minutes to unlock this balance, I have to wait 16 minutes in order to unlock the rest (I had 2 transactions, 0.16 in the first).

>>55041991
So, how long confirmation takes?

>>55042006

2 minutes.

If I had clients start to pay me in Monero, what is the easiest way to then use that money for monthly expenses?

I see the info on how to buy gift cards etc. But that's not what I want.

What is the easiest path to converting Monero it into cash on a regular basis, while still remaining anonymous?

>>55042037
Bisq, perhaps? I've never used it but you can exchange Monero with it. No signups, peer to peer. Low volume tho.

https://bisq.markets/market/xmr_btc

>>55042037
>What is the easiest path to converting Monero it into cash on a regular basis, while still remaining anonymous?

Buy bullion or consumer electronics with XMR and resell for cash.

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>>55042037
Sell via Kraken. If you want back in fiat, you KYC, else, you stay in the Moneconomy

>>55041309
I'll help you because I think someone told you to come here for help in another thread. There used to be a subreddit with up to date info but I think it got banned but you could check. They would have a full guide. Anyway it's pretty easy to figure out yourself. The most important part is getting genuine onion links so you don't end up sending money to a fake site. Pretty sure pic related has genuine links. Don't know which markets are the biggest right now but you could look that up or just try a few. Then you find what you want and send them the XMR they want and they send it to your home address.