/biz/ - Business & Finance

Posted to biz because almost every other board on 4chan is guilty of this shit too especially /g/

Zoomies are the most brain dead corpo bootlicker generation ever to have walked the face of the earth, they lap any shit up as long as it is online in the form of a short "funny" video.

it's over

>>54997710

Its not just zoomers imo but definitely basically all zoomers are like that.
I learned to code over the past 2 years and Jesus christ its bad in that world. 99% of people “learning to code” are trying to do it through some youtube e-celeb and their advice and just utterly failing. Gen z are absolutely fucked.

What do you even call this “culture”? I have no idea how to research about it because i cant put a handle on it?

not going to read all of that textwall, you have a link to a credible yt'ber to back up your claims?

a discord astroturf group that came from screaming. anybody that fell for the Martin "fed informant" Shrkeli fans that are going to be the sideshow in october deserves what is coming for them

>>54997673
yea and the youtubers themselves are just reading quora posts from pajeets outloud. the internet is dead except for still hosting old vidya servers. READ BOOKS. mycology? read a book. finance? read a book? research papers? read a journal aka a type of book. planting? carpentry? finance? chemistry? book book book book. the internet is only for killing time and making money from retards killing time. its like a while a go when the food industry realized they can't lie about the ingredient list but they can name their product I cant believe its not butter, who is i? oh its just our brand name it doesn't actually mean this is a butter product. pure water brand. oh this isnt actually distilled water its just our brand name. this attention grab at your detriment has become the name of the game for the google algorithm now too, just get you to read as much bullshit before you get your real answer which will have a pop-up, then a paywall, 3 ads, and the article itself a summary of a quora post like I said which doesn't go into depth on the subject or really answer your specific question at all and the algorithm crosses its fingers you'll continue the search as thats how it profits by taking up your time. books on the other hand are free at the library with no ads, no pay wall, no liberal agenda, no trannies when you just want to learn mycology. "people don't read anymore" guess again. maybe fiction, sure because its as bad as hollywood. but nonfiction is the most important means of communication that exists. im surprised the tranny fbi hasn't burned all our books yet

>>54998275
stop using a chat bots to type your answers
they are stupider than you

it's the same for every generation
or are you tellnig me the boomers aren't being led around by their noses into scam after scam resulting in current predicament?
there's just more people and more fractionation observable in current gens

>>54998287
>t. CHONG CHONG CHONG

>>54997673
It's been like that for over 10 years. I came to the conclusion that zoomers are unironically devoid of sentience (the ability to self-reflect) and sapience (the ability to think about subjective experience) through repeated "encounters". Thus, it appears they follow because they're told to follow, not because they want to follow, and they end up parroting everything they're told without the slightest thought about it. This leads to them talking about how the 90's and 80's were when they weren't even born back then, but those "gurus" don't know any more than the zoomers so what they repeat has no relation with reality whatsoever. When this is pointed out to them with evidence, they have a mental breakdown and go into full 'broken record' mode: they just repeat verbatim what they said before as if they had never posted before.

>>54997710
The thing is, it seems to have "backpropogated" into people that a 50 fucking years of age, I expect boomers to be retards, but I don't expect them to be bussin on god fr fr no cap ADHD retards

>>54997747
That's not a useful pic. It's natural to want to be a youtuber instead of an astronaut when there is no viable path to the latter and it pays like shit, whereas anyone can do the former for next to no investment in both time and money and get millions and millions.

>>54998332
I haven't noticed that to be true. Boomers are as dumb as ever and saying the same dumb shit they've ever said, but I haven't noticed them change their attitude or follow yout*bers or t*kt*kers or anything like that. I have less of a read on them than zoomers though so maybe you're right.

>>54998309
18+
go back kid and ask daddy how to make money with real oil scamming americans

>>54998301
It's different. Boomers are led from scam to scam because they trust """experts""" in real life. They go to an insurance salesman to shop for insurance and they go to the butcher to learn about cuts of meats.
stre*mers and similar gurus are not butchers or insurance salesmen, but they still try to teach you about cuts of meats or insurance. Millenials typically used the internet as a library and researched topics through blogs of all kinds. This is more comparable to trusting gurus, but not quite, because millenials were well aware that what they read wasn't inherently reliable (pic related was a very common meme for a reason) and thus cross-checked with multiple sources, and used communication to refine their knowledge (for example, even via cunningham's law, users would post things on 4chan, then someone would make a contrary statement, then the next step wasn't to pretend that never happened and to repeat what you just said, but rather to google the counterpoints to see if you can find flaws you can point out. This process resulted in quickly building up sophisticated knowledge of multiple phases of an interesting issue). Of course not all millenials were like that just like not all boomers blindly trusted "experts", etc.
Also I believe this boomer "trust the expert" shit came from a time where boomers' parents trusted experts because experts made money on good service due to smaller communities of mostly one-man or few-man shops being the backbone of industry, not faceless megacompanies operating internationally thus capable of fetching any number of retards to keep feeding them money even if a large swathe of the population stops shopping at their place, or to buy up any shop that may compete with them.
When a boomer's trust is betrayed, he goes to a different expert. When a millenial's trust is betrayed, he ADDS other sources to improve coverage. When a zoomer gets betrayed, he just repeats as if that never happened. Why?

>>54998391
>Y Y Y YOURE A R R R ROBOT A A A AI
>Y Y Y YOURE A C C C CHILD AAAAAAA
jump off a bridge

>>54998525
18+ kid
maybe go back to school instead of wasting daddys funds donating to advertisers

>>54998275
Most of this post is painfully wrong:
- The vast majority of books are for-profit schemes with 0 informational contents

- Similarly in finance: anything you read has either never been true or is no longer true, otherwise it wouldn't be published for obvious reasons.
- The internet is the best, sometimes the only, way to get access to these material so that's self-contradictory
- The food industry is 100% allowed to lie about their ingredients. For example, "olive oil" is often 90% canola and 10% olive oil, but the ingredient list will only say "contents: olive oil" (or it might not even have a label at all).
- The few things the food industry really has to be truthful about is easily bypassed. For example, they don't have to list ingredients that are less than X% of the product, and they can use adulterated products while copying its label (so if your bread is made with "olive oil", again it could really be 90% canola oil. In fact it could be 100% but that's another issue).

I hate when people assume I am a fan of some faggot youtuber just because I voice an opinion that might be similar.

>>54998604
- Journals suck. The vast majority of articles are bullshit (publish or perish culture does that, but also some fields have 0 grounding to them, and some are too costly to reproduce so nothing is ever checked)

Love how the 4cuck filters always assumes literally everything is spam. Except, of course, spam: that always goes through just fine.

>>54998693
In addition, you should be looking for articles regardless of location (journal, proceedings, workshops; this especially depends on domain: in CS, for instance, most good papers are published in proceedings, not journals, while in biology it's mostly going to be in journals and conferences are for abstracts rather than papers).

>>54998711
You're not going to learn much about how the woodpecker doesn't get his beak stuck after hitting wood if you're reading a journal whose article range goes from how the woodpecker takes a shit in flight to which whale has the most sperm to cum with.

everything you said is in agrement with me
the boomers got their retirements stolen more than once
by the same people
and they are following again
believing the exact same things as previous
so there is nothing wrong with current gens
they behave the same as every other
the only difference is the means of interacting being changed
it is only that it is more visible because it is recorded on the internet and not memoryholed
and the format is not one which you would get sucked into but neither would they get sucked into your format
or did us millenials somehow escape this bullshit cycle without my knowledge?

This is where I come to get the best advice.

>>54998621
It's because zoomers are incapable of thought, so they assume that nobody else is capable of thought either. This is what I'm talking about when I say they have neither sentience nor sapience and can only parrot what they're told without even thinking about it.

>>54997673
Selling shovels to rubes digging for gold. Been around forever but now amplified online. I'm about to launch "do nothing program" ---- buy my course on how to best abstain! Ironically, it will be better real value than any of this snake oil. It's all snake oil. Most of the customers aren't sticking to any of the courses. It's all bought up by lazy retards looking to buy a quick fix. there are none. I\ve worked with some of these youtube con men and after awhile, you sort of start to see how these rube customers actually deserve the bs they buy. It's a vicious circle. You can't even talk them out of purchasing. They're hypnotized. they want to be taken advantage of, they like it, they crave for it. There seems to be nothing you can do to stop them from purchasing. OHhh ohhh OHHHHHH I'm gonna Poooorchasssseeeee!

>>54997673
>What happened to DYOR, learn by yourself and trial and error, and seek advice from qualified and varied sources which aren’t easy to consume crap?

Usually costs money, everyone is broke due to jews printing money.

>>54998728
>>54998502
meant for u

>>54998765
Actually it's all free, and has never been easier to access. From libgen and tpb to sci-hub and... well, ok, it's no longer possible to FIND information since search engines committed suicide, to be fair.

chatbots were a mistake

>>54998275
I listen 60 hour long historic compilation audiobook from librivox.

>>54998784
>>54998728
I don't see how what I say agree with you.
You claim that (among others) boomers and millenials blindly trust and repeat things just as zoomers do, without ever considering anything could be wrong or seeking multiple sources, etc.

First, I pointed out this was explicitly not true for millenials in the most direct sense possible.
Second, I pointed out two things with boomers. Regarding the origin of their undeserved respect for experts, I postulated it was from mimicry of their own parents which came from a time where that made sense due to the consequences of bad services being large, so the system was self-correcting. Regarding their error correction mechanism, they are not only capable of noticing they were tricked, they are also capable of looking for another expert next time (but they aren't able to look for a non-expert source). Importantly, they look for experts. Millenials, by contrast, do not have this "glitch", even though they tend to weigh the quality of information based on expert status and/or reproducibility and other criteria they are ready to accept them from many origins.

This is vastly in contrast with zoomers who are incapable of even so much as noticing they were mislead, but even when it's explicitly pointed out to them, they don't care and keep following the same person. In addition they are incapable of reflecting on the information they receive at all, which is again completely contrary to how both boomers and millenials operate.

In your response post, you then use the pension example. Not only was it not the same people in charge in the various pension-theft events, unlike your claim, boomers don't actually have a choice here, they can't just move their pension to another person because the choice is not theirs. In fact, they can't even move the pension to another country (which would be equivalent to choice). Thus, this is a complete nonsense point.

>>54997673
Normies aren't supposed to think independently. youtube and tiktok is the television and newspaper equivalent for them

>>54998842
Don't. You probably get fed absolute nonsense, and you can't actually properly digest the information you are listening to.
Never trust anything important (e.g. historical or scientific statements) without source (your personal experience is a valid source). You can't verify sources from audiobooks. In fact you probably don't even get told any source. A source for historical contents is primary ("XYZ said ABC [source: a photo of the document where XYZ says ABC]") or secondary ("XYZ said ABC [source: an audio recording of someone who worked with XYZ discussing how XYZ said ABC]"), no further (e.g. a book that says that MNO said that XYZ said ABC, without further source). You must also be able to judge the quality of sources. "he said she said" is obviously less reliable than a signed and written document. It's OK to sample a few random sources to check the overall quality of citation, then assume the rest is about the same quality, unless you want to do a deep dive into a specific topic (then you have to check everything relevant to that).

>>54998621
Jesus this is so fucking true.
I’ve been lifting for over a decade and i have to do advanced things like periodisation and volume cycling now which i learned over the years and through trial and error.
I mentioned it on some fitness channels and some fuck wits assume i watch whatever their favourite big fitness YouTuber is right now because it seems that person may be talking about those subjects a lot.

Fucking annoying. Especially when you consider 99% of faggots watching it are not advanced lifters and dont even need to know about it or trains like that(i wish i didnt have to but thats how it goes when you lift a long time) and it seems now ever soaking wet dyel is doing periodisation and mesocycles which is just utterly lol

>>54997673

im 30 and i am guilty of this a bit
i have very few friends that are more competent than the youtubers to give advice
this is my own fault; but i imagine it is worse for zoomers, traditional communication is breaking down, parents do NOT understand current meta game in society [I may not myself]
everyone needs a familiar face and u are not getting it irl unless u follow very specific path, i tried to be Le Epic Lone Wolf Hustler College Dropout
I made a lot of money but cant relate to people (not in a cool way but in a "missing large life experiences" way)
i imagine Zoomers are seeing thru the bullshit so much faster that they are all pursuing "their own way" and rallying around small microcelebs+niche communities as a result
it is only human and u are being weird about it. there will always be popular people and they do not take their word as close to gospel as you think, u are just being weird asperger guy who takes things too literally when ppl are having conversations

I watch AthleanX I do not do fucking facepulls every single day lol

>>54999199
You are a zoomer. You are not 30.

all the chat gpt replies ITT
zoomers are on part with boomers when it comes to retardeation

It’s because the education system is horribly broken in first world countries. Degrees are akin to commodity markets where you buy a job. This is why 60% of graduates are female and 90% of scholarships go to females, because money is pouring into the education system to subsidize jobs for females.

It’s been this way for a long time which is why the early internet was all about “DYOR” and actually reading, as you had mentioned, because the actual intellectual capable peoples of society were the first to adopt this better way of learning.

Things are so bad in 2023 though, where all academia is corporate subsidized and profit seeking in nature, that even the Norman’s, who need socialization to learn, are seeking out avenues of higher learning in their own social way. They are not able to learn independently from texts, so they form learning groups around common teachers, since the education systems are burning trash heaps.

>>54999256
You wish, zoomer.

>>54999268
That would make sense on its head, but how do you make the connection between "refuse to even acknowledge any information not from the infl*encer" and "it's effectively a learning group"? If anything it seems like the opposite (a cult or indoctrination platform, where information from outside is not allowed to penetrate no matter its form).

>>54999199
These faggots are running.. well they already ruined the internet. The internet is nothing but fucking clickbait SEO and algorithm pandering bullshit recycled content from AI generated blogs or occasionally sourced from fucking plebbit comments or quora or decades old blogs which are more or less unfindable on google or any search engine anymore as search engines died. I dont know whether to blame google or its just tue faggots trying to gale google so hard it became impossible to maintain quality results anymore so they gave up.

Your angle is people are lonely so its all ok. Lonely nerds used to congregate on forums. They dont exist anymore. They were and still are a valid option but zoomers arent interested. Zoomers are interested in whatever clickbait seo garbage they are given. Some people got so used to it that they filter all information this way. Do you know how pathetic it is? How many people try to learn to code through youtube alone. Just fucking lol. Then when they get a real resource which expects them to do things themselves after giving them basic tools to get a task done they immediately give up, whine its too hard and the course material should be changed, or go find a youtuber who is coding the answer for it and follow along. They are so fucked.

>>54998275
the internet was good before SMARTFOAMS allowed billions of turd worlders, women, normalniggers, and 85 IQ congoloid teenagers to shit all over it.

>>54999297
Have you never been to a school? The primary function of a school is to create social castes among the attendants first and foremost, stratifying children and creating “in-groups”. This is tangent to the “”””education”””” taking place.

Popular kids are not a new concept

>>54997710
They’re exactly like boomers, except with internet instead of TV.

>>54999312
Lol. I used facebook properly for the first time in a good 6 years lately. You can so clearly feel how all the jeets have access now it’s hilarious. Any video on there is just full of jeet comments.

>>54998982
Opposite view.
Started triathlon 3 years ago.
Started in a club with "real world advices" & followed some good accounts on youtube.
10% knowledge learned with the club 90% with internet. Books are dogshit on the subject. Tried 2, absolute dogshit.
Only upside with being in a club is discipline & team motivation.
I'm 10% Ironman top btw. Doing lanzarote in a few days.

TLDR for small brains : if internet is used to learn about smth with real world application the upside is infinite. If it's a distraction it's like watching any stupid reality tv ahow or reading any mainstream faggot book like steve jobs bios.

>>54997747
China kids are just lying, but whatever

Watching shit is minimal effort but helps you pretend that you are productive or actually engaging in that activity. When I watch the guru I'm learning important information, I'm being productive (without actually having done anything).

>>54998502
There are literally butchers and insurance salesmen making videos about meat and insurance

I have learned ableton, premiere pro on youtube, anyone can learn python perfectly on youtube, you can learn marathon (trending), climbing, chess... Anything. On the same website and here you are complaining "read a book" most books are outdated unless you have a solid list already & you must learn chemistry or maths. And even that you can learn the mechanism way better through youtube. I started maths again (functions & complex equations) w videos from a teacher.
I also learn Spanish and I'd say 30% comes from YouTube, 30% from books, 40% speaking it.
Stop complaining it wasn't better before, the majority has always been retarded you see it more clearly now w internet but it's the same as before.

>>54999337
Ah, so you're one of those infl*encer parrot retards. Got it.

>>54999407
And they're not the ones zoomers go to for information.

>>54999300

idk dude im pretty old and my cousins + brothers are younger, i see them irl and they dont exhibit any of the traits u r talking about

>>54997673
Your problem must be more about the general brain damage of zoomers. It's always good when you find a guy who knows what he's talking about on a subject that's relevant to your interests. Surely you've got some YouTubers you follow? Obviously I have better taste and discernment than the average normie. I guess you mean they have no ability to think outside of trusting gurus. Most people are stupid lemmings and zoomers are stupider and unhealthier than any generation so far so it's not surprising.

>>54999506
And you know this because?

>>54998957
I know the sources they read a classic French historian in 10 volumes, "general history from the 4th century to today", I listened 20h of it already, and learned plenty of things, but it's not your language... but really, there are some gems on the free side of the internet. Free operating systems, free books, free courses(pirate udemy), free movies, free high quality music(soulseek) you are right, google youtube etc have awfull content (now any jeet quand publish 10 video in 1s with the right bot). Also, they force content and advertisements, sell users' ids for advertising campaigns, etc.. it could become way worse in the future, with auto-generated content to apply a filter to everything or to find the good words to sell something according to what your historic tell about yourself.
About the audiobook, I can't process everything, but I process a lot of it anyway.

>>54999471
You are talking about how people used to use the internet. Its still possible to do it that way even if harder these days due to bloat.
Im talking about these “gurus” which are just personalities that zoomers follow. They dont give good advice. You dont learn much from youtubers like they try.
You learned by taking bits and pieces from different sources on YouTube and off of it, which is DYOR.

>>54999573
No i dont. Why is that so hard to understand? I dont feel the need or desire to watch any youtubers doing things i enjoy at all. I just do the things i enjoy or read about aspects of it.

>>54999668
This.
One more thing that never ceases to amaze me is how zoomers truly cannot comprehend that it's possible to live without following y*ut*bers. It's as important to them as electricity itself is to people born after the silent generation.

>>54999668
In your OP you seem to want text and forum based advice. Well people make YouTube channels instead of blogs these days so you might have to go with the times. Also if people in forums are just parroting YouTubers then you might as well go to the source. Like you mentioned lifting, well stuff like that isn't just e-celebs to live vicariously through. Two youtubers I check for videos I might like from time to time are "kneesovertoesguy" and "Conor Harris". Both these guys had videos that helped me fix injuries. I read books, I used Google, and the solutions there didn't work. These guys probably would have written books or something 20 years ago. But in the current year people make YouTube videos.

>>54999888
I DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR POETRY

>>54998326
Thank you. For such posts I occasionally come here.

>>54999622
You just helped make my point. You don't know any source. You only know the name of the thing being read to you.
You are right that, as I myself pointed out previously in this thread, there are plenty of top-quality free content for those who aren't zoomerific enough to be scawed of piracy, of course. But audiobooks are a stupid format that has no value for informational contents (it's the same for videos anyway, aside from dynamical demonstrations, such as those involving a chemical reaction, a dance move, or the effect of a collision, for example), although that's somewhat of a different topic.
For example, the book you mention is available online free of charge in scanned format at
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9763110t/f1.item
Exactly as I expected, it is virtually free of any source, so the contents is, at best, dubious. You "learned" fantasy which you mistake for truth, and that's in the best case scenario.

my only guru is The Boy Who Saved Crypto

>>54999199
Honestly, why? He's like other ytbers. Constantly repeating the 5 best shoulder exercises. He produces repetitive content. He has to, yt is de facto forcing him.

>>54999918
ZELLIG HWNBAG

>>54997673
zoomers are incapable of doing anything but consooming
/thread

Leaderminds don't understand followerminds. 80% of society are followerminds. It's as simple as that

>note: having a leadermind doesn't necessarily make you leader material

>>55000150
That's been the case in every generation, but zoomers behave completely differently from their elders. In addition, I haven't seen any evidence of 'leadermind' within their cohort.

>>54997673
people want their opinions digested and ready to consoom, and highly opinionated retards take advantage of them
I do "follow" a few people on science topics, but that's mostly for entertainment and to find different stuff than for information. but, as an example, go to /g/ and see these threads about a couple of randos being posted daily cuz they have strong opinions on shit they really don't know anything about. same for instagram and stuff. people really want to """learn""" from influencers...

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>>54999888

This was all predicted in 1953 in Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury. Basically the general population becomes obsessed with watching wall-sized TV screens of fake people (aka Youtubers and social media) and give up on interaction with each other or literature and the main character's wife tries to kill herself when he turns off her TV "family"

>>54997673
>>55000361
btw, it's not different to TV stars and shit. and at least 2 american TV stars became presidents...

>>54998765
>retard doesn't know where or how to find information
>blames jews
lmao

>>54999268

Is it a genetic or social problem when people can’t self teach from texts?

>>55000396
It's funny because literature is just as sloppy as tv or games or any other means of entertainment. Fiction was seen as childish and low-brow until the radio became a thing, then suddenly listening to the radio was low-brow but reading was high-brow, and so forth.
In truth it's all the same shit.
>and give up on interaction with each other or literature and the main character's wife tries to kill herself when he turns off her TV "family"
That's quite chilling, given both those specific things are indeed happening (whereas obsession with tv, or anything else, was not inherently a new concept).

>>55000405
tv stars were squarely entertainment, though, not a source of truth on the level of the gospel.

>>55000396
Also I forgot to mention, it predicts Airpods ("Seashell ear-thimbles") and self-driving cars (that try and run people over who break the law, lmao)

>>55000538
This book in particular was concerned about censorship and ignorance though, the writer himself couldn't get a copy of H.G.Wells' books because science fiction was considered 'too trashy' to be available in the library when he was a kid, lol

>>55000538
>tv stars were squarely entertainment, though, not a source of truth on the level of the gospel.
I mean, TV stars were an example, but TV usually presents randoms as "experts", and people definitely follow their shitty advice. jim cramer is an (in)famous example

Complete and total lack of male leadership in everything they experience. The closest thing a lot of these zoomers get to a male role model is a sports coach. If they don't play a sport, they're basically exclusively dealing with single women for their first ~12 years of existence until they stumble onto pewdiepie, moistcritical, Andrew Tate, or some other twitch person.

>>54999953
>it is virtually free of any source, so the contents is, at best, dubious
not that anon, but its sources are at the end of the book, pages 807 and up

>>55001357
Thanks for checking, however this isn't sources but rather a bibliographical supplement, i.e. "if you're interested in this, you may also like...". It is itself a supplement to bibliographical notes at the end of sections throughout the document, which again are not sources but rather "this chapter's contents is discussed in...". For a source, you need to link a statement (e.g. "the romans hated cats") with a reference of higher order (for example an archeological report concluding that romans abused cats because they were seen as unclean, or a translation of a text from the era saying that cats are for barbarians, or such) with detailed coordinates (for example, "3rd edition page 43", so that it can actually be verified: text changes between editions, sometimes being outright removed).

>>55001479
right. didn't know. thanks for the explanation

>>54998857
wrong
>'experts'-booms
>celebs-mils
>ecelebs-zooms
there is no functional difference except who is receiving the trust
not even why they receive trust is different
And it was the same people. Pretend it wasn't but it was.
And they had all the voting power to prevent it. But trusted their experts who said it'd be different or otherwise lied to them.

>>54997673
It's called "micro-education", basically everybody is monetizing providing a surface level knowledge of things. This gets paywalled quickly, too.

>>54998185
https://voca.ro/1aJrcyiGoP6J

>>54997673
I personally know an eceleb. Chris Williamson. The dude that hangs out with Pedestein all the time and has built a big podcast following. He dishes out constant advice and relationships, wives, kids etc despite being a single childless chud. It is surreal to me.

>>54997747
> China is such a shithole the kids are willing to go space just to escape it.

>>55000450
Both. Some people do learn better from pictures, it’s just hard to convey accurate information that way in my opinion, which is why learning and human history is generally through text I believe

>>54998857
Maybe it's because zoomers develop a parasocial relationship with the YouTube guys they follow. Getting accurate info isn't as important as feeling included and validated.

>>54997747
Is it any wonder?

>>54997673
cuz normies use smartphones so everything got normiefied online

>>55003893
I like this theory. This has the advantage of also partially explaining the onlyfans simp trend. I will test this when I have the opportunity.

>>54997968
"influencers" / the algorithm

>>55000150
just opt out and tend to your own garden mind