/biz/ - Business & Finance

welcome to the daily /smg/ howl at the moon event. it is now well past midnight. let us howl together.

AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>54969701
I can't believe furries didn't shoehorn themselves into the LGBTQRST acronym at this point.

Long whatever company makes fursuits, I guess.

Dubs and spy goes down 10% today

No links? No quality posts.

>futures

Remember, guys, Reflexivity is inconsistent with general equilibrium theory, which stipulates that markets move towards equilibrium and that non-equilibrium fluctuations are merely random noise that will soon be corrected. In equilibrium theory, prices in the long run at equilibrium reflect the underlying economic fundamentals, which are unaffected by prices. Reflexivity asserts that prices do in fact influence the fundamentals and that these newly influenced set of fundamentals then proceed to change expectations, thus influencing prices; the process continues in a self-reinforcing pattern. Because the pattern is self-reinforcing, markets tend towards disequilibrium. Sooner or later they reach a point where the sentiment is reversed and negative expectations become self-reinforcing in the downward direction, thereby explaining the familiar pattern of boom and bust cycles. An example is the procyclical nature of lending, that is, the willingness of banks to ease lending standards for real estate loans when prices are rising, then raising standards when real estate prices are falling, reinforcing the boom and bust cycle.

>>54969732
I got your links right here, pal.

BOIL

>>54969732
No faggots = no mods

Gtfo

>>54969746
Correct. The economy has not changed in the past month and a half, so the price of the stock market hasn't either. Equilibrium.

>>54969732
Good.

What NIGGER just tried to pump oil?

this week assholes from the FED speak every single day
it's going to be crazy

I am tempted to find the corelation between SOXL and /smg/ posting activity from 2020-2023. There have been many PnDs in /smg/ but nothing that annihilated as much by volume as SOXL.
>>54969746
As long as the various governments of the world are endlesly subsidizing profitless make work businesses the long term future of the stock market is to exactly track inflation.

Did pig eyes post an update? Let me check.
No.

>>54969820
Lack of content. By the way, you're the last poster here. Make sure to lock up.

>>54969748
Must be one of those warm European winters I keep hearing about from gas baggies going out barefoot like that

I have spent the last hour on the toilet. Pray for me please.

>>54969842
good luck

buy buy buy buy

>>54969856
You'll never be a real woman

>Futures
Mumu-san... forgive me

>>54969830
I want you to know I only call you pig eyes because you have eyes just like a pig, and I'm not doing it it upset you unless you're really jewish.
It's the crab market making things boring.

>>54969720

thank you sir

>>54969893
only one winning here is snibby

ES keeps going up

>>54969893
Fugg dis life
Europe bros, we're pumpin hard today. Good economic data showing that CPI is steadily decreasing. And those geriatric old fuggs at ECB just said that they are officially done with big rate hikes and will solely do 25 bps from now on... So I'm thinking bullish, unless of course the data and the ECB are full of utter crap, but they wouldn't lie to us right?

So..on what is europe pumping again?

>>54969935
Which data? Last CPI data of single european countries was trash. Spain gained significantly, france gained 0,2% and germany lost 0,2% but was still over 7% (non-eu as well as eu-harmonized)

I just had my first experience at an LGBTQ+ nightclub, Axis Nightclub in Columbus. Atmosphere was amazing. 10/10 would do again.

>>54969959
>germany lost 0,2%
Jepp, that's it. Scandi is also going down (still over 9 or 10% can't really recall the specific number but whatever). Trajectory is the important factor. Inflation has peaked, meaning things will only get better from now on. R-r-r-rright? Companies have strategically used this crap as a way to maximize their profits and will maintain their prices. Salaries are going up.
Yepp, I'm thinkin bull market is back (well, more like crabbing upwards but whatever)
The ECB has literally declared inflation finished. Those cocksuckers have such overblown ego... but that's good for the market so who cares?

>>54970000
Faggot spotted

>>54969701
>>54969701
>>54969712
Furries.

>>54969770
Looks like he succeeded.

>>54969810
SOXL isn't a PnD unless you think Nvidia is a scam it is

Can somebody explain to me how Argentina has an interest rate of 96% and still functioning

>>54970004
They haven't declared it over. They do everytime it slows, but everytime data comes out worse they spout hawkish paroles. They are not trustworthy, not even data dependent as the claim to be, otherwise they would have done 50 bps last time. They are afraid of something. Either banks fuckin it up or the european states not able to pay off their debt. it has to do with that, since that's the fuckin reason we were are 0% interest for a fuckin decade. In june many banks have to pay off their debt to the ECB, it's billions they have to repay. I once found a fuckin list with the amount of how much each EU bank owes, but I can't find the article anymore. And conincidentally the banks that right now offer the highest interest are the ones with the highest amount of debt. Credit Agricole, BNP Paribas, Santander. It's overwhelmingly french and italian banks (I knwo santander is spanish, but can't remember specific shitalian bank)

>>54970031
money is fake

>>54970039
Give me more then

>>54970000
Zeros of fail

>futures

>Swedish Underlying Inflation Rate Falls In Relief For Riksbank - BBG
BLOOMBERG

>- Sweden CPI M/M Apr: 0.5% (est 0.6%, prev 0.6%)
>- Sweden CPI Y/Y Apr: 10.5% (est 10.6%, prev 10.6%)

lmao even

>>54970004
It's 'good' for the EU (Germany specifically) because a weaker Euro with stable gas prices means Germoney can sell more shit outside of Europe for cheaper to foreigners. It is only bad for countries like Portugal, which are the equivalent of places in the USA like Ohio, having all the opportunity and factories go overseas and being sucked dry for 40 years so that California can get cheap shit for their middle class from China. Just as Caliwali has sucked the lifeblood and youth out of the rest of America and left the USA a bigger shithole than before, so too will Germoney suck the life out of the EU to maximize Volksvagen profitability in Shanghai.

>>54969753
>>54969891
>>54970011
muh faggots, muh woman
what kind of mental disability is this?

I WILL be a real woman.

>>54969720
Do dogs have wills? If so, white women beware.

No digits and markets crash within two weeks

>>54970170
Shit anon! Why did you have to do that?!

>>54970070
Wait until you hear about the texas of south america with over 100% inflation annualized with a 97% central bank rate

>>54970036
Nah man, you are too skeptical. You really ought to place more trust in the system which has brought ever-increasing wealth to us.
I fear you might be right about some aspects but I simply cannot see the banking system failing. There is so much manipulation that it's simply impossible. The ECB is fully aware that this way of slowly increasing rates and very slowly chip away at the inflation is the best way to keep people docile and extract money from them without them complaining. At least that's my theory. They are crowd appeasers and spineless cowards but... they are fully aware of what they are doing and moreover, they are really good at doing what they are doing, i.e. slowly torturing us to maintain our wealth and status as economic slaves.
Behind every action is an economic reason. I find it mind boggling that Lagarde's car hasn't been keyed yet

>>54970201
>trust in the system which has brought ever-increasing wealth to (((us)))
verification not required

>>54970201
>4 new posts
>Crowd appeasers
But nobody is happy with them except for circlejerking/bootlicking faggots who work with or for them or want to work for and with them.

>>54970201
>>54970217

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-ecb-staff-losing-faith-143507680.html

And even they aren't.

You know what to do /smg/.
Short oil, long tech.
The oil princesses must be taught the fucking lesson again.

>>54970170
>>54970182
crash - from new highs

vix and dxy crushed every fucking day and retard algos buying every fucking dip on the index

>>54970247
And still all it's achieving is crab. That's very bad.

>>54970247
>vix and dxy crushed every fucking day and retard algos buying every fucking dip on the index
See >>54969810
>>54970024
It wasn't a PnD but it absolutely had the same retarded commoditybro delusions with "supply can NEVER meet demand!".
Also yea, the rally in the Nasdaq has been unironically entirely AAPL, MSFT, and NVDA. NVDA is behaving more like a shitcoin than Boomercoin.

>>54970088
>VW being relevant in China
they gonna be up for a rough wakeup after their shitty integration software faces the high integration software of BYD and other EV manufacturers

>falling commercial real estate values
>deals drying up
>drv still crabbing

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>>54970247
Algos sell when things are going wrong. Nothing is going wrong right now.

>>54970296
Have you considered instead shorting our resident weak REIT MPW? Or perhaps SLG, VNO, or HASI?

>>54970307
>Nothing is going wrong right now.

Market double bottomed in October, its time for SPY 5000

>>54970217
>>54970221
Unless people are literally out in the streets wanting blood, then these articles don't matter. As long as people don't put their foot down, the ECB and the entire banking system and the idiot politicians can and will do as they please and will continue raaping us to their heart's desire. And this being Europe, we will never set our foot down
The bull market will continue as long as ECB maintains their overly bullish outlook. The rates are ridiculously low (fuckin 3%??? what even is that) and inflation has officially peaked. The fact that it's still ridiculously high and that people are effectively losing money does not matter when companies' revenues keep skyrocketing. People are still overspending and over-indulging. I give this bull market at least until fall or winter this year

>>54970332
>he believes the fud
>he watches cnn

>>54970325
I did short mpw but got out after it did the retarded wobble

>>54970254
Stop posting my waif you hack. Haha, I somehow forgot her name, mind sharing haha?

I might actually be on team MUMU right now. There is a lot of eager MagaBoomers trying to short the market from the few websites I check for such sentiment. And they. Are. Always. Wrong.

>futures

>>54970410
Lol, sure, same as 2022, right? SPY will not reach 4200. It will rather hit 3500

>>54970463
lots of options at 4200, then a spike to flush all the sellers, then huge dump

>However, bets are still on as many as three quarter-point cuts by year-end, after CPI and PPI data supported the case of Fed pausing, given slowing inflation.

>Fed Governor Michelle Bowman said on Friday that the U.S. central bank probably will need to raise interest rates further if inflation stays high.

Kek

>>54970489
What is wrong with bulls? August and September CPI will be a lot of fun. Then they will realize "HIGHER FOR LONGER".

And even if CPI is flat til then. 2% is a goal, but a sustainable 2%, meaning no cuts until 2% for months if not a year.

Zillow called and asked me to apply for a job with them, the bull run is back on fags

last week for bulls to take profits

You DO calculate your OWN inflation right?

Decentralized finance (DeFi) firm Truflation is building a new gauge to track inflation independent from the government and in real-time. CoinDesk reports:
Think of it as a competitor to the Consumer Price Index (CPI), and one where officials can't move the goalposts. "The framework that [the government] is using is a hundred years old ... and they have continuously tried to evolve that versus taking a fresh approach in an age where we've got everything computerized," Truflation founder Stefan Rust told CoinDesk in an interview. The team started building Truflation after former Coinbase (COIN) Chief Technology Officer Balaji Srinivasan challenged Web 3 developers to build a censorship-resistant inflation feed, claiming that "the centralized state isn't going to provide reliable inflation stats," and promising an investment of $100,000. On Friday it was announced that Truflation won the challenge.

The key difference between the CPI and the Truflation index is that while the government uses survey data to measure inflation, Truflation looks at price data. The CPI is measured in the form of a survey that collects about 94,000 prices per month for commodities and services and 8,000 rental housing units for the housing component. While the Truflation index is based on the same calculation model as the widely used CPI, it is different because it measures and reports inflation changes daily by using current real-market price data from sources like Zillow, Penn State and Nielsen, among others. About 40% of the data that is being looked at is the same goods basket that the Bureau of Labor Statistics uses. The remaining 60% is being substituted with data from other sources. Truflation, which runs on Chainlink and is therefore accessible and visible for everyone, currently measures a 13.2% inflation rate, as opposed to 7.9% measured by the CPI in March.

>>54970507
You can be a bull in EU. That rally is never gonna end until bears give up and switch sides

>>54970534

>>54970544
Keked, checked, and based

>>54970544
good goy

>>54970031
When interest rates match inflation it all works surprisingly well no matter what the actual numbers are

Bullish

>>54970534
fed looks at PCE that's the only important one

>futures

Eurozone Industrial Production SA (M/M) Mar: -4.1% (est -2.7%; prev 1.5%)
- Eurozone Industrial Production WDA (Y/Y) Mar: 0.1% (est 1.4%; prev 2.0%)

Everything fine guys.

>yields

>>54970757
what the FUCK is that??

>>54970750
>https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/industrial-production
>https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/industrial-production-mom
Come now m8. That kinda crap doesn't mean anything. I dare you to analyze the market based on those graphs/numbers. This sort of data tends to fluctuate on a monthly basis. As much as I hate this place, Europe's industry is doing more than fine

>>54970740
They all look so ugly

>>54970750
Bullish

>>54970399
nikumikyo

Also stock market going to pump today because I masturbated and I am short. Use this information wisely

>>54970764
Then buy

>>54970798
buy

anyone trade a prop firm here?

BOILers...? Is this the incoming summer pump? ACs on overdrive, low wind energy in europe, no water for nuclear plants in france and so forth?

>>54970933
Not sure. Might sell if this pump follows through. If it pumps too soon producers will stop cutting too early before the shortage kicks in and we'll just fall back down to sub $2 soon enough.

This pump is bearish unironically.

>European Economy Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni said on Monday that inflation continues to drop thanks to rapidly falling energy prices, but that core inflation remains "persistently high."

>However, Gentiloni underscored that "the peak in core inflation is behind us," predicting that inflation will fall from 8.4% in 2022 to 5.8% this year and 2.8% in 2024.

bullrun back on the menu boys

>>54971029
>5.8% """projected""" inflation
>0.2% GDP growth
nice economy you got there. totally in harmony with financial markets

STAY DOWN GOOGLE U FAGGOT COMPANY UNDER 118 OR BUST BABY

I have eaten for the past 2-3 days now and have not shit yet.....what does that mean for stocks?

>>54971051
Complete scam. Completely weeding the economic mid out.

>>54971029
Eu commission actually pointing out the reason for lower inflation, wow.

But if inflation is bullish and the peak is behind us, wouldn't that mean Markets have peaked too?

HIGHER. FOR. LONGER.

>just saw this while randomly scrolling through facebook
Bearish

>>54971067
Get more fiber in your diet fatty. Once you properly reset your microbiome you won't be a fatso anymore

>>54971135
Wtf does this even mean?

>>54971067
They'll shit the bed for you

>>54971067
That happens to me once every couple of months. Its not painful apart from a inconvenient bloat feeling.

>>54971135
>what can i do to avoid the nightmare
srsly would like to know too dog

>>54969692
It's amazing how dogs are like their masters
Under trump the glow was acceptable and did an okay job
Under biden, you wonder how they haven't been taken behind the shed already for being such liabilities

>>54971235
The fuckin goal of the left is to weaken the centerright by radicalizing the right. In the US it might doesn't matter since you only have 2 parties. But in europe where there are more than 4-5 parties a left induced bullshit policy radicalizing the political right helps them, because people will stop voting the majority midright party and go to far right. Problem then is that nobody wants to work with farright, so midright who lost votes is weaker. Exactly that happens in germany with AFD and CDU.CDU becomes weaker and doesn't want to work with AFD, divide and conquer.

>>54971333
Hey that's me

>>54969753
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bbJDjNLzv8U&pp=ygUMTXkgZGljayBzb25n

a nuke can fly and this retard market would still pump higher

this thread and the markets are fucking dead.
What happens when no one is there to trade, but the markets are open? Kinda like when you into a shop and there's no one, you just hear the background music?

>>54970791
The pale and the blonde are fine
>tfw married my 6/10 tradcath gf a few years back
>tfw best investment I ever made

>>54971395
This takes me back to a better time... The myspace days

>>54971415
there are no humans left in this market
nobody is retarded enough to buy now, far too limited upside with too much downside risk

>>54971421
>6/10 tradcath gf
She's 300 lbs now right anon? Right anon?

>>54970507
media is just trying to get retail to pump their bags

>>54971415
There is always going to be a pajeet and a bot. If the pajeet leaves then it's over

>>54971257
>The left
Didn't read any further. Incompetency

>>54971159
It means Boomers

>IRS sent me a K-1 for holding UGL
>I live in Australia
t-thanks

>>54971451
Ok, thanks for your reply, I don't care.

>>54971433
only 300?

>FED'S BOSTIC: DOES NOT SEE INFLATION COMING DOWN QUICKLY
>FED'S BOSTIC: RATE CUTS ARE NOT PART OF MY BASELINE
bullish

>>54969692
They are weaponizing Karens into citizen-police, like in that fictional book 1984

>>54971257
Thats an interesting theory but ignores that left leaning parties have always been more radical and just so happen to hold the same opinions as the globalist elite, as evidenced by 180 degree turns on policy. Shit look at how different the left wing parties in the Us and eu are then look at the tactics used during the occupy wallstreet movement.
The problem is that the people have never had power. Power is force, force is monopolized by the state. Yellow vests can protest all they want but it just delays the inevitable.

>>54971433
I said tradcath that doesnt mean she is a spic

>>54971471
>doesnt mean she is a spic
Cope

>>54971479
Seethe, darkie.

>>54971461
It's like your scripts haven't changed in 20 years. It's retardation to repeat the same bullshit over and over again expecting different outcomes

>Fed's Bostic: Rate cuts are not part of my baseline

>Fed's Bostic: He Doesn't Expect To Cut Rates Well Into 2024
>Fed's Bostic: Does Not See Inflation Coming Down Quickly - CNBC

The same cunt, that caused the early march pump by talking about 25 bps hikes.

>>54971467
Karens already control the companies since they are all in HR and marketing, being paid thousands for very little work

Why am I being banned for saying slaughter all spics nigs n jews

>>54971491
But what is your counterpoint expect claiming I would repeat? If I'd repeat 2+2=4 over and over, would that be wrong?

>>54971257
I don't see how there can be any comeback for the right desu. They might be appeased for a number of years more with performative politics with figures like Trump, Zemmour, Poilievre, etc, but demographics is destiny and the number of white newborns/childrens is extremely low proportional to foreign races.

White Europe is already finished so right-wing policies are already an anachronism, because the right-wing does nothing for non-whites so they have no use for it. I don't know what comes next for Europe, maybe upper-class whites can isolate and entrench themselves as a ruling class, similar to Gulf Arabs in their countries, while sacrificing the proles to miscegenation, but I'm not sure since they seem to be so ideologically aligned with Kalergi. Future seems bleak no matter how you look at it.

>>54971496
>thousands for very little work
destroying America's economic prosperity and innovation is a very big job.

>>54971468
With left I don't mean that they are truly leftwing. They claim to be left. It's the SPD and Grüne of germany. Elitist-left, same with the DEMs in the US. Truly socialist parties are a minority.

Reminder that since the first day of the republics and the killing of monarchies, the left-right dichotomy has been pure theater.
There is only one right and it's monarchism. Once monarchism is killed, there are only shades of leftism.

>>54969893
>>54970254
please stop its hard enough to resist cute asians as it is

>>54971502
I know, which is why they import more foreigners to vote leftwing. I myself am a foreigner in germany, albeit being born here. I hate SPD and Grüne, especially since I know their Youth parties from Uni, although the youth is actually left in contrast to the motherparty.

I'm seeing myself in 10 years back in the country of my parents. Only thing holding me back is my family. The city certainly doesn't look german anymore.

>Atheism
>Bloated bureaucracy
>Subjectivity
>Nihilism
>Historical revisionism
>Hedonism
>Fallacy of egalitarian anthropology
and then people wonder why their shitty republics are failing?

>>54971517

How many more prints of core inflation not moving from the mid 5's will it take for the market to realize shit is fucked? lol.

>>54971500
Depends in which room that statement is made, and you are not aware in what fucking room you are

-ACK

Imagine waking up with negro bean water instead of lemon ginger tea.

Hood puts

Janitor needs to go back to his crypto scam general.

Oilbros, I slurped more at the bottom, now WE GAAN

Good Morning. Life is beautiful.

he's done dilating! quickly hide the shitpost!

>>54971604
life will be beautiful when SPY goes down below 350 where it belongs

Mondelez bros, how many shares are we going to buy to dab on tech niggers again today?

dilation exuberance

>>54971613
True. 3,5 is the minimum target for this year, actually september the latest

>>54971606
A few weeks ago I got banned for saying how all women nowadays are basically prostitutes who sell their body online, and it seems the trannijannie felt personally attacked.

P.S: Tranniejanny, if you are reading this, I wasn't talking about you. Nah, I'm just kidding trannyjannie, you know I love you <3

why are all the posts getting deleted

They deleted the post Huahuahuahuhaua

>>54971641
>>A few weeks ago I got banned for saying how all women nowadays are basically prostitutes who sell their body online,
women have always been whores in private. the only difference since the revolutions is that women now have no problem saying in public that they are whores both in public and in private

>>54971628
Forgot pic

>>54970000
Get out of my city and stay off of this board, you disgusting sodomite.

>>54971649
The janitor is back from their dilation break
Another thread I was in just got deleted too

>>54971654
Here's a stock/business question, how long until AI can render certain jobs obsolete? You know like the incredibly mundane braindead jobs like monitoring internet forums?

It's so braindead they aren't even PAID. Isn't it the prime candidate for automation?

>>54970000
Based Tranny-Connosuir Chaser

Did you get to frot with a girl with a femenine benis?

>>54971649
pol chuds getting purged, no loss

>>54971667
AI janny sounds even worse

>>54971682
>1 post by this id
we know its you dude

>>54971664
Why would you post that pic with that reply?

>>54971451
>>54971491
Faggot reporting me for conspiracy bullshit

is this a meltdown? I'm afraid to even post

>futes

I really dont see the point in banning everyone that you dont like on a slow board like /biz/ when there is barely any traffic anyways. Eventually you are just going to put this place into a standstill with absolutely no posters all because you read some words on a screen that hurt your feelings.

lmaoing at this thread
love you jan jan
you give me laffs in this crab market
also ywnbaw

Jesus Christ, the Jannie has come back for blood and revenge. Run for your lives!

>>54971709
yeah it's weird how they allow the shittiest threads about shitcoins full of poos, but as soon as you go on deep analysis, they lose their shit lol

>>54971709
I think it started by a post about women

I have to call my broker and bitch them out today. My level 3 options application is taking too long. They just have to press a few buttons. Why is it taking so long? I was already approved in another account that I rolled into the one im applying for

Buy $100 of SCHD in my Roth weekly. Buy $500 worth of VOO a month in my taxable brokerage. I’m a better investor than most people in this general. Some people will have a hard time accepting this fact

Looks like ima grab another 10% at the open. This must be what it feels like to be the big guy.

OIL V-SHAPE RECOVERY GET IN THERE

Index funds

>>54969692
WKHS earnings today. Remember when WKHS mooned because they were the favorite to win the USPS contract? Then the ticker are shit because WKHS didn't win and retail are shit sandwiches?
Was that two years ago? Or three? They were some people here considering an hero.

Who is this faggot janny? Do you understand that the nature of economics is intertwined with politics and that its not uncommon for business discussions to veer into politics, especially in /smg/ threads where having random convos when markets are closed is pretty common?

>conspiracy theories belong on /x/.
Do you think you're funny you snarky faggot?

I may not be very smart but can others check the volumes of stuff and let me know if thats normal? Granted extended hours are lower than normal, some of this seems way off...

>>54971772
kek, he got you too

>I'm risking it on mid sized banks
Please work out please work out please work out I need to feed my children

>>54971772
Yeah, I agree. Sometimes it's hard to talk about economics without having to talk about politics to develop your ideas, and be able to express your opinions clearly, and how you arrive at certain thoughts regarding economics
I have seen this before in other boards, sometimes they just go on powertrips and it's what it is

This faggot jannie muted me?

>They do it for free
LMAO

No, he didn't. Pump or dump in 6 mins?

>>54971792
What kind of economic outlook do we have? Mild to severe recession in the next 4 months. More bank failures? Lack of adequate access to healthcare. Gun show loop holes. It's going to get much worse before it gets better.

European indices, shitcoin price action

>>54971792
flush reaching the euroepan open

>>54971781
It's really fucking stupid to think that politics and economics are mutually exclusive and have absolutely zero influence on one another.

>>54971815
Big banks are just going to continue eating small banks. That's something I think is fairly reasonable to predict

>>54971813
>the filename
I'm fucking dead hahahaha

vice is bankrupt
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vice-media-declares-bankruptcy-soros-and-fortress-set-become-new-owners

good pharmaceutical companies to invest in?

UNITED STATES-EMPIRE STATE - NY FED MANUFACTURING
May. 2023 -3.75 10.8 -31.8
Expected, previous, actual

LMAO

Yearly dividend income with $1,000,000 invested:

- QQQ: $6,700
- VOO: $16,000
- SCHD: $37,700
- JEPI: $113,200
- QYLD: $117,000

>>54971840
Which ever company makes the covid vaccine, you should just short them because nobody is getting any boosters.

>>54971869
>over 10%
that's even better than what was held by H for the big guy.

>>54971850
holy fucking shit
>US May Empire Fed manufacturing index -31.8 vs -3.75 expected
>New orders -28.0 versus +25.1 last month
>Prices paid +34.9 versus +33.0 last month
so manufacturing activity hard crashed month to month and prices still went up

>>54971891
welcome to hyper inflation

My retirement strategy is focused on living off dividends

Dividends are more stable, predictable and dependable than forecasting share prices

This makes them an ideal source of dependable dividend income in retirement

By spending only dividends, I am focusing on the stability of each company that generates them, and on their fundamentals as well as valuation. It's important to have a solid base of a qualify list of companies, purchased at a good price, which have strong fundamentals. Having a diversified portfolio is important in this context.

By spending only dividends, I reduce the risk of running out of money in retirement.

Stock prices on the other hand are much more volatile than dividends. A retirement plan that focuses on selling off assets is risky, and speculative.

damn SOXL has lost like all its volatility the last month

>>54971904
I think you mean stagflation friend
Decreasing economic activity while inflation persists

>>54971574
>>54971587
lol jannies going ham

>>54971906
Funny enough this isn't too ludicrous because of how badly FIRE over estimated returns. Living off of dividends means spending 2% of global weighted stock investments yearly since thats the VT dividend yield. And of course you can pull it higher with reits or just investing in companies that focus on dividends

>>54971906
My goal is to be there by retirement, live off divvies then pass that onto my kids so they will have the sivs to live off to and so forth. Then we destroy the kike menace

DAX, fuckin shitcoin. I had shorts, but I didn't believe we would crash like this today. Actually pathetic. I can't fuckin commit to shorting this shit anymore with these retarded pumps (all of EU)

>>54971869
>>54971881
>JEPI
I haven't seen returns like that since... Madoff
oh no

I know there's fed speakers today so is that going to make SPY crab and then crash tomorrow...?

>>54971766
I shoulda sold. Now I'm holding worthless shares.

>>54971938
>>54971881
JEPI is high yield but shares don’t appreciate and the dividend does not grow. It’s good for current income. Something like SCHD is much better because it focuses on dividend growth.

markets don't care about recessions buy buy buy

>>54971952
>markets don't care about recessions

>>54971906
Do you focus in certain types of stocks, or have a variety of different companies in your portfolio?

I have started with this fairly recently, and for now I'm focusing on learning mostly about the energy and metals sectors

>>54971850
>>54971891
Jesus Christ lmfao

>>54971952
Not gonna buy your bags

>>54971952
The market is like The Big guy, it forgets that it cares about recessions, but once it wakes up from it's nappy time, everybody will remember and care about it at the same exact moment. This leads to cascading red candles.

>>54971950
SCHD also has good option volume to sell calls on, biggest reason I avoid JEPI is lack of options volume

Actually hard lol that EU, DAX, CAC is dying now after US manufacturing data instead of weak EU industrial data 3 3/4 hours ago. It'so blatant who's pumping and holding EU.

>>54971950
There is a HUGE trap out there for dividend investors known as chasing yields. In essence they are investing in high dividend etfs or companies that won't actually grow those dividends.

The ones that do, like SCHD, VNQ, VYM, or VIG (Vangaurd's etf that literally goes after companies consistently growing the dividend) have yields that sit around 3% to 4.5%. Which is pretty big, triple the USA average and double the global average. But those dividends will actually grow consistently like stocks. Even when you compare the high dividend etf to the dividend appreciation etf from vanguard, the latter wins long term by.

And then you have JEPI which is all about market timing. Calls and puts work until the market swings and you can heemed hard

>>54971786
No, but I think your posts are getting shoahed. I'll go to Ohio State later on and beat a tranny to get revenge.
Also picking up some more BIG while it's cheap.

>>54971964
My core position is SCHD which is an ETF focused on dividend growth. My individual companies I like are NEE (utility), KO (consumer staples), ABT (healthcare)

>>54971962
>-86%

I'm tired of this motherfucking chud market range. Just fucking do something

>>54971964
>>54971982
I forgot to add my favorite dividend company of all, O

>day 72 of holding SQQQ

>futes

no links no image /smg/
woo boy today is gonna be a doozy

>>54972061
each time we posted one with links it got deleted

>>54971997
>O

>DIV YIELD: 4.93%
Juicy

If you don't mind me asking another question, why do you choose different companies to invest in, KO has 2.x%, ABT 3.x%, and O has almst 5
Do you keep it varied so you don't run the risk of a company going bust? To keep getting different payments throughout the year?

I am picking your brain on it, because I too have thought about using your strategy. I don't want to be a day trader, so my idea is to park fiat into divvies, and use the time to do other stuff rather than trade every day

>>54971962
is there an equity bubble doe? doesnt seem like it

>>54971939
>I know there's fed speakers today
all week

Does it give you confidence, and faith in the market that Facebook is in the top five companies to ever bring the most value to the world that ever existed? And then Berkshire Hathaway and Nvidia are #6 and #7. And of course Apple, brings more value than anything in the world

BOIL
>>54971837
>the filename
&
warned by the faggot nigger jew reddit tranny janny whom does it at no charge
and
will
never
be
a
woman
(nor a man, for that matter)

>>54972081
>we can only drop if there is a bubble
So you wanna say it was every time bubbles before recessions? In other words this market always ends up becoming a bubble?

>>54972081
>is there an equity bubble
l o l

>lost 35 in the span of an hour
it's over

>>54972066
impressive, very nice

>>54971906
Why not just sell covered calls on broad market ETF's like SPY and QQQ? You can backtest the strategy by looking at CBOE indices such as BXM or BXMD. There's also a dividend aristocrat index that outperformed SPX if I remember correctly.

Would you call this a head and shoulders pattern?

Everybody should get in the practice of keeping 10% of their portfolio invested in Hyatt, so you can give it to the big guy for influence or if you ever wanted to send a surveillance balloon over military instillations with the purposed of triangulating all of our satellites used for important communications.

>Bought MNDY on Friday.

>>54972072
All of those companies have a reliable history of raising their dividend every year. Google “dividend aristocrats” for more info. If I put money into KO for example at 2.3% and they raise their dividend 5% a year for 10 years that original investment is yielding closer to 6%. And it keeps growing the longer you hold. I’m going to be holding for 30+ years because this is my Roth IRA.

BOIL princesses I am getting ready to sell half of my stack again on this two day tard pump

>>54971962
>during the actual recession

And the start of a recession is always retroactively dated. By the time the government officially acknowledges one, we're almost out of it

>>54972131
Yes, but it doesn't say much because it's bull flag consolidation.

>>54972131

>Futes

I hate that this general exists because it's just too broad. Can't you fucks make some separate generals for investing in FAGMAN, Penny stocks, etc? I'm not trying to follow this shit show of a thread

>>54972141
Oh, I didn't know some companies raised their dividends over time

>>54972152
>most of the max drawdown (67%) took place during the actual recession, and not in the 12 months prior
we have not yet had even one (recent) negative quarter of GDP announced - though this one is probably it
it is expected for Q3 / Q4
we have not yet "entered" the recession even though it is here and is showing in economic data
it will only get worse in the months to come

>>54972168
i love titties so much it's unreal

>>54972171
biz a shitcoin board for poos, negros and arabs, you cant have have decent thread staying up several days with a tiny topic

I'm transferring my account to another broker. I didn't want to dump all my positions and take a tax hit. I hope the market doesn't fall out from under me as I'm waiting for the transfer to finish.

>>54972130
I do sell covered calls and immediately reinvest into more shares. I’m very conservative so I only average an extra % or so a month.

why do it be like it do? its the short interest fool. get learned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDc0YQiFh3E.. also tqqq 30 ive been waiting for months and I wont be denied any further, or else

>>54972194
>I'm transferring my account to another broker. I didn't want to dump all my positions and take a tax hit.
you should because brokers fuck things up all the time. closing then re-opening is the only safe solution

>>54972171
It's meant to emulate the organized chaos of the NYSE trade floor.

>>54972171
im so glad you aren't in charge of anything around here with retard posts like that

>>54972204
It's still my assets. I have proof of what is mine, and if one of the brokers fucks up they'll have to make me whole.

>>54972171
go mod your sub however you want

>>54972206
real

>>54972174
Yep look into the aristocrats. Check out O specifically. Realty income has increased their dividend 104 QUARTERS in a row. That’s a raise every 3 months. It’s usually 3 .2% raises and 1 2-3% raise a year. It also pays its dividend monthly

anybody here trading Breakouts swing tarding? or similar strats for stocks?
Also interested if anybody also trying futures...

I've tried but I had no success, learning orderflow now.

>VIX
More than a month of getting btfo and jews not allowing the market to naturally make the blackest gorilla nigger dump that not even circuit breakers will stop it. Gay market

>>54972267
yeah i work with ES
for entry with candles I use oscillators like this guy, stoch+rsi for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2Trre-Ml4

oscillators are shit for exiting, so I use levels given by EMAs and also the absolute value of the position, like 2 points of ES is already 100 dollars so it's time to take partial profits.

for OF, you either go with the real order book or some mix of ''candles'' + OF like bookmap

bookmap has a live show on monday, tuesday and friday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcF32mj_oV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkTgHmfK-f0

>>54972267
I use Iching to choose my entries and exists. Been working pretty good for me.

>>54972268
We aren't complacent enough, just wait a bit more.

>>54972267
order flow is a complete scam. the world of trades occur on the chart not the order book where shit gets cancelled. futures > options. check out this example. once you figure out the trend its way more profitable to be swinging it along the way but then again more risk if you dont play it right however way more opportunities to play on but it depends on your style https://streamable.com/0gibmy

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

>>54972355
right on time and dubs?
no crab day!

Market opens, two posts, holy shit /biz/ is dead.

I happen to believe that the government will not cut spending and will instead raise the debt "ceiling" again. You should short the dollar with me and brace for more inflation

oh for fucks sake, my MELI puts are down like 4 big guys

it's
NOSE
diving

>>54972390
you can thank the janny for going on a dilating power trip earlier for that

>>54972390
everyone is banned

It’s ogre

So EU crashed as US today, but earlier. US hate to wait til their fuckin bell rang.

>>54972390
Yes

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>54972391
Would that make spy go up or down

>>54971906
This is what I’m doing in a traditional IRA right now, and thinking of opening a Roth IRA, but not sure if it’s worth managing two different retirement accounts with the same dividend strategy (outside of tax reasons for the right now).

Right now I’m collecting as much VZ to add right now while it’s under 40. For some reason it still hasn’t gone up much and it’s as much of a staple as KO (which I do buy). The rest of my divvies are in monthly ETFs, global x and JEPI specifically, to help add to other positions monthly until the market decides what the fuck it wants to do. Am I doing this right /smg/?

>>54972390
yeah well, check the open. It's also dead from what I can see. literally nothing is happening

>TLS

>>54972391
investing in equities is shorting the dollar in the long run

after all those months I just assume retards are slurping the dip soon

>futures open red
>pump to green overnight, almost a 0.75% swing on ES
>eats shit at the bell

really weird divergence on IWM vs DIA/QQQ/SPY
IWM leading higher
either IWM comes crashing down, or we go green (soon)™

Wale me up when faggots start jumping out of windows.

Massive flex

>>54972470
Two more weeks

I'M CRABBING SO HARD
AAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOAAAAAOOOOOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAO

>>54972487
Thanks anon I'll mark it down on me calendar

BOIL
up 6.5%

why do futures always sell off before spx?

>Locked out of company Github this morning
Its so over

>>54972533
that's because they are from the future

>>54972437
Yeah. I can't short with commitment anymore. Had DAX shorts, but after pumping like a moron this morning I wasn't convinced holding them. Sudden crash on US data (not weak EU data hours earlier). It's retarded. You want to short, do it, but pull out. They want to make you go long, but I will not do it.

My put options are down 5 fucking The Big Guys already.

>>54972570
unironically, unequivocally bullish

>>54972592
>trolling outside of /b/

>>54972573
>giving away 10% to the big guy
Didn't know you were a biden supporter

Breaking below 411 would be EPIC SAUCE!

>>54972598
no, please no, please don't report me :( I was reported earlier today, claiming I was spreading conspiracy theories

>>54972570
first Bostic earlier now Kashkari both with hawkish comments
looks like they have some massive puts open

Are they unironically trying to bore us to death?

>>54972625
puts are at 4200

>>54972626
>t. not a BOILer

Alright bros, what's the strategy to profit from fag month

nat gas chads we eating good or what?

>test 410
>rejected
>back to test 413
>rejected
>back to test 410
>rejected
how many times are we going to see this..
are we actually going to break 410 today

digits and I load the dip on LMFA

>>54972661
americans pump spx only after europeans leave

>>54972640
I don't gamble on commodities or leveraged ETF.

>>54972655
Short Anheiser-Busch, simple as

>>54972640
Just put some eggs in water to BOIL

>>54972674
>Implying the market isn't gambling

Breaking below 410 would be EPIC SAUCE!

>>54972655

>>54972688
Yeah, but natural gas is literally called the widowmaker. Also LETF are basically for intraday gambling.

cope

>>54972692
I’m gonna use my gains to buy a(nother) SSA trigger when they go 50% off again (4th of July sales I’m hoping). /journal_entry

What happens if I hold a leaveraged commodity etf for years?

>>54972137
I also sold at open.

Sous not supposed to be going up. It's supposed to be doing what I want. Me

NIGGERS
I have $10k cash and 3k in UNG for a DCA of $7
Should I just cut my limited UNG losses and move it all into something else?

>>54972626
>he's only looking at equities

>>54972661
i don't see us breaking out of the channel we've been in for the 6 weeks until the debt ceiling meme goes away or jpow's shitposting session on friday hints at more or less aggressive rate hikes. there's definitely a lot of congestion in the market so we're heading for a breakout, we just need the right retarded thing to happen

Market goes down. my MELI puts are going down too. What kind of trickery is this?

>>54972773
>MELI
May aswell buy baba

when will the commercial real state bubble finally explode?

>>54972773
>South American e-commerce company
why would you ever bet against a firm that can so easily cook their books

>>54972792
It already did.

>>54972773
didn't go down fastenuff far enough.

It's over.

>>54972824
>>54972824

Thoughts on this REIT basket?
>AMT - Infrastructure
>DLR - Data Center
>EXR - Self Storage
>MAA - Housing
>O - Diverse
>STAG - Industrial

Thinking of adding a few more into other sectors as well but unsure about it - where is this lacking coverage?

wish i hadn't pussed out
on
TELL
yall niggers ever check
the divy
on
NAT?

>>54971906
>Dividends are more stable, predictable and dependable
stopped reading right there

>>54972846
It’s crazy to think how much real estate is above and below your property

>>54972875
kek check out this retard

>>54972846
>MAA
now there’s an interesting investment
thanks anon, checking out that divy

>>54972846
its missing PLD which will probably just end up buying stag

>>54972792
Demand is good, supply is good, production of new houses is reducing --> housing is gonna get more expensive. People will continue buying regardless of the price since housing will always only go up.
Here in europoor, real estate has actually gone UP despite all this inflation/rates nonsense. People are buying and since production of new real estate is at a low level, the supply has gotten more scarce, meaning that the current houses/apartments get more expensive.
This crap is literally ridiculous but that's how it is. People need to live somewhere and they will assume almost any debt to acquire themselves their "dream house", even if it is a rip-off since in most historically it pays off
Plus of course throw immigrants into the mix and you'll get an even scarcer supply

>>54971135
>When you’ve been saving your whole life, sometimes it’s hard to switch gears and start spending, so try giving it away
>Congratulations on your retirement! Your problem of having saved too much is a relatively easy one to solve: Start giving money away.
wtf

>>54972955
>Demand is good, supply is good
are we talking the same thing? I said COMMERCIAL.
>Commercial Real Estate Definition and Types
>Commercial real estate is property used for business purposes rather than as a living space. It includes offices, industrial units, rentals, and retail.
ever since the pandemic, people have been wfh, and office spaces are being abandoned and put to sale. shit's going down.