/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54887800
Whether it happens then or any other time, the point is that it is inevitable.
Like a huge tidal wave coming to engulf everything,. Fudders can say it might take a bit longer, MEV mafia might say it doesn't even exist, but we can all see it, out there on the horizon, growing.

>>54887800
Given CCIP works as promised, they’ve just solved the biggest problem facing world wide adoption of central bank digital currencies. And at that, using their unique way of doing so as a utility token that both ensures buy in and insurance from this decentralized trustless network, they’ve enabled a way forward that countries that are complete enemies could still end up using the same system or whatever system is built on top of these rails.

My minds blown.
I could be really, fucking wrong, but if they can deliver the product as described, it’s a when, not if global systems adopt this system.

It’s the only one that makes sense.

how many tps can CCIP handle? fees?

>>54887824
You're right, it makes no sense.

>>54887908
Smart early anons figured this all out in 17/18 why do you think it's /ourcoin/

>>54887800
JUST 2 MORE MONTHS

>>54887925
You mean generalized requests? Potentially limitless. An oracle network doesn’t need to mine blocks, so the “TPS” can scale as the node itself allows requests to come in, could be literally equivalent to web2 amount of request fulfillment speeds where these things can happen simultaneously across the globe seamlessly with maybe even decabillion to even a trillion or more.

To be fair, an oracle network can’t be compared to a blockchain in terms of speed and tps. Oracle networks are pretty much limited to the given speed of Web 2.0

CBDCs will never exist.

>>54888004
They literally already exist.

>>54888004
they exist and they are fucking scary
we know that chainlink will enable evil but also enable good
like all new technologies i guess
but yeah cbdcs will be enabled by chainlink, but its going to happen with or without our investment so may as well be there and not be a pleb surviving on a ubi after agi comes

>>54888154
I can imagine digital ID systems being used for good. Imagine doing proper, uncorruptable polls asking questions that people are actually united on vs the "elite" parasites. For example, questions that reveal that literally nobody wants restrictive 15 minute cities with surveillance everywhere.

>>54888196
could be used for good, could be used for bad
from history we can suspect it will be mostly bad
govt will know your every purchase, your total wealth (cash will be phased out) and already know your every move

>>54888326
I keep waiting for people to stand up and say
>no, that's enough of that
Maybe it'll happen eventually..

LMAO synth? They use Pyth oracles so Jump can manipulate the data before putting it on chain
Synthetixs is ded

>>54887824
I doubt it.
Chainlink Functions will be released first and it's still not out.

>>54887908
Institutions need more clarity from the government and the US scam is currently going all out against crypto.
This will delay the adoption until a new government comes into power...

Sergey forfeited the last battle again and turned his news announcement into a nothing burger hoping it would prevent a btc dump. What an idiot. He still got a dump but it made his coin even weaker by wasting good news.

When you keep forfeiting battles the end result is losing the war. The tech can be as bullish as you want if the adoption does not happen quickly and his opponents destroy any positive sentiment from investor in his scam then he will eventually go bankrupt.

>>54888443
Sergey is fucking up big time

BLUE HEXAGON BAD REEEE

>>54888529
>doubting sergy can defeat the mev cartel with he has ari

>>54888326
there are many wealthy and influential people who will not submit to this system, simply by virute of their own position in the system right now. realize this and take the steps necessary to be on the same side as they are

>>54889417
Sergey addressed this at Consensus. That there is a general feeling that everyone in a position if influence is a scammer, but he is constantly talking to bankers who just want to do honest business.
If you're an honest businessmen you are constantly getting fucked by the dishonest through tragedy of the commons shit. This is your chance to permanently cuck the sociopaths. A lot of people will want this once they understand the full implications of it.

>>54889439
>bankers who just want to do honest business.
hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha the absolute state of naive and desperate bagholders
>muh honest bankers!11
my fucking sides

>>54889464
The whole Fourth Industrial Revolution will play out with honest businessmen adopting provably fair technology, and then forcing the dishonest ones to cross the floor one at a time in order to be able to compete.
The honest ones win by being early adopters.
This might be the literal first time in history that honest people get a competitive advantage against dishonest people. Nothing like this has ever happened before.
The reason Chainlink is so exciting because it is both the highest potential asset in a generation, AND because it's a tool for the good guys to win against the bad guys.

>>54889482
>the WEF, SWIFT, JP Morgan, E&Y, Eric Schmidt, and Sandro Salsano are honest guys!!11
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54887800
Yeah bro just 2 more months

>>54889490
Wow, all of those guys are associated with Chainlink?

>>54889518
yes anon, crème de la crème of honest businessmen

>>54889527
Sounds like Chainlink are working with some of the largest and most powerful individuals and entities on the entire planet.

>>54889532
it also sounds like you pivoted from muh business honesty to muh appeal to authority

>>54889540
Well there are lots of things to be bullish about.
You seemed more interested in how well connected Chainlink were, so I thought we'd talk about that.

>>54889518
>>54889532
Holy shit, I should buy it fast. Hold on a minute, though, let me pull up the chart first.

>>54889544
I'm more interested in how completely out of touch you are by calling these entities as "honest early adopters"

>>54889547
Don't worry, it's not at ATH after a parabolic pump. Charts show an excellent time to buy.
>>54889548
As the world breaks into a multi-polar shitshow of barely concealed mutual enmity, honest systems become the only way to do any business at all. I'm sure they know that already.

>>54889557
>t-t-they'll just abandon their 60 year profit model in favor of this unfinished and unscalable solution stuck in perpetual development hell

>>54887908
still without FSS noone will touch public chains

>>54889561
You're the one that said they were working with Chainlink lmao. So they're all in bed with Chainlink but they're not going to use it?
Tidy your narrative up.

>>54889633
>https://killedbygoogle.com/
>if an entity is dabbling with experimental technology that MUST MEAN they're about to ditch the entirity of their tested and trusted models in favor of this unproven experimental unscalable PoC

>>54889652
Chainlink / Smart Contracts is how Google can stay competitive with all their data.

>>54889808
>Google, literally the biggest illegal monopoly in the world, needs this experimental crypto technology that doesn't even work properly yet in order to "stay competitive"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF THIS BOARD

>>54889816
I mean yeah basically... Google's ex LLM product lead also works for Chainlink now.

https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither

>>54889838
>he's conflating the very young and emerging AI technology with smart contract adoption, failing to completely realize these two are currently, and for the foreseeable future, incompatible
is this how you keep stringing retards along? buzzwords on top of buzzwords?
>>54889858
o
m
g
https://thedefiant.io/google-cloud-polygon-partnership

>>54889865
https://blog.chain.link/blockchain-ai-use-cases/

All you seem to be doing in this whole thread is confirming they are heavily involved in the future of Smart Contracts lol

Token
Not
Needed

>>54889878
>potential
>can be
>will lead
https://blog.chain.link/solving-deep-seated-trust-problems-in-derivatives-using-chainlink-enabled-smart-contracts/
here's another blog for you bro
>2019

>>54889901
Something so monumental is going to take time yeah.
>here's another blog for you bro
Low latency oracles are about to release, I expect in the next couple of months.
https://blog.chain.link/low-latency-oracle-solution/

>>54889925
>it's going to take time
>about to release
>2 more wee- I meant 2 more months
wut? you mean to tell me that after 4 years, Chainlink still hasn't managed to solve deep-seated trust problems in derivatives via smart contracts?
Oh noes, anyway. I'm sure that this upcoming release will change everything!
>feature creep: the project

>>54889527
Hello thomas

>>54890049

>>54887800
7 months behind schedule. lush.

>>54889939
>Chainlink still hasn’t revolutionized the world of finance as we know it??
>That means it will never happen

will ccip ever make it possible to write to L1 contracts without the gas fee from an L2?

>>54887800
2 more months my cuckold marines
Link will hit $1000 anyday now

>>54890881
>>54888443
Sergey became the boy who cried wolf and now no one believes him or you.

>it’s happening this time for real

No it’s not. He wouldn’t Be pissed off or losing his shit at big conferences if he knew the ace up his sleeve was imminent. He knows he’s fucked, technical barriers have been hit

>>54890957
Are you talking about that one (1) deadline he missed that one (1) time in the entire history of Chainlink?
Because if you are, maybe you should take a look at ETH or something kek

>>54890881
>chainlink has delivered zero promised IRL usecases in a span of 6 years
>they can't even deliver crypto specific features promised years ago
>but this upcoming "vaporware 0.2" release is a game changer bro!
>>54890973
>ETH is shit, that means my favorite altcoin is suddenly exempt from all fair criticism!
this is your brain on chronic bagholding

>>54888154
linkies funding most evil technology while making no financial gains

truly mind boggling

>>54890980
>>ETH is shit, that means my favorite altcoin is suddenly exempt from all fair criticism!
ETH isn't shit, it's literally the No.2 crypto, and has been for going on a decade.

>>54890151
Does Hodge still work for Chainlink?

>>54890996
>if ETH can postpone releases indefinitely then so can Chainlink!
>shitty development culture and production hell are good since this is crypto bro!
keep up the mental gymnastics bro

>>54891007
>>if ETH can postpone releases indefinitely then so can Chainlink!
Well if ETH postponing many times worse than Chainlink doesn't change how it's perceived, then why should it somehow be different for Chainlink?
Smells like a double standard or something.

>>54891012
>I demand that the entire crypto market begins treating Chainlink like the number 2 crypto!

>>54891020
ETH isn't the only one that postponed shit lol
Look at ADA, it took them 6 years to release the most basic feature imaginable: the actual blockchain.
And when they did release, it didn't even work right, and still doesn't.
Cryptos delay their roadmaps all the time.

>>54891035
>I demand that people stop being overly critical of allegedly "the most important asset in all of crypto" and that they start treating it like it's ADA or ETH!
at some point you'll be forced to face reality, but desu your delusion is hilarious

>>54891020
They already do kek.

>>54891050
>>I demand that people stop being overly critical of allegedly "the most important asset in all of crypto"
Well yes.
ETH is literally the second most important asset in all of crypto right now and it doesn't get a fraction of the hate Chainlink gets, even though they do nearly everything worse.

>>54891059
>well yes, I demand that you start treating LINK like ETH, effective immediately
lmao bro, do you even hear yourself? ETH has a ROI of 500,000%, nobody gives a flying fuck about the shitty state of the network, NOT EVEN YOU
>ETH is da best!11

>>54891069
>I demand that you start treating LINK like ETH
Virtually all cryptos ever have pushed deadlines at some point.

>ETH has a ROI of 500,000%, nobody gives a flying fuck about the shitty state of the network
Exactly.
If people gave ETH as much shit as they give Chainlink, it probably wouldn't have had that ROI.

>>54891075
>If people believed LINK was as important as ETH, it would have pumped as much!
>therefore, I demand you people start treating as ETH, right nao!
kek

>>54890973
1 deadline? Are you a newfag? Sergey literally never delivers anything, hence the price action and lack of general enthusiasm. ETH was all over the news by now, Sergey is seen as a crook who keeps saying shit to dump his own holdings

>>54891020
>ETH is important and therefore doesn’t get hypercriticism

>>54891050
>Chainlink is important and therefore does get hypercriticism

Circular reasoning pilpul.

>>54891081
>>If people believed LINK was as important as ETH
I didn't say anything like this.
You did here: >>54891050
>allegedly "the most important asset in all of crypto"

>>54891095
Sergey only ever missed one deadline.

>>54891102
Except I specifically stated no one gives a shit about the technical state of ETH
learn how to read ironic shitposts
>>54891114
I'm mocking linkies (You) bruh, are you going to pretend that's not what linkies claim? lol
>Sergey only ever missed one deadline.
indeed, because he had the wisdom to not set deadlines at all, up until he fucked up last year

>>54891127
>I-I was merely pretending to be retarded!

>>54891127
>I was just being ironic
>I was just mocking

Get a hobby

>>54891114
>Deadlines Sergey hasn't missed
Dumping tokens
>Deadlines Sergey has missed
CCIP, Staking, Enterprise Adoption Layer

>>54891134
>I-I'm still pretending to be retarded!
>>54891069
>nobody gives a flying fuck about the shitty state of the network
>>54891138
>I demand people start treating LINK like ETH and ADA!
that's my hobby

>>54891147
>>I demand people start treating LINK like ETH and ADA!
And XRP, and Doge, and Solana, ....

>>54891151
then why don't you market it like a shitcoin?

>>54891156
I liked that Chainlink never marketed like a shitcoin.
But then it got fudded worse than one, so here we are.

>>54891147
>nobody gives a flying fuck about the shitty state of the network
Weird, could’ve sworn it’s rank 2 like you said.

>>54891164
>I liked that Chainlink never marketed like a shitcoin.
there's your problem mate, you should have bought memecoins instead
>>54891177
which wouldn't make any sense if people actually cared about the technicals, sweaty
still pretending to be retarded I see

>>54891206
>people don’t care about technicals
Weird, could’ve sworn fuddies keep blaming Sergey’s failure to release features for the current price.

>>54891225
weird, Sergey is the CEO of Chainlink and not the CEO of Ethereum
are you also illiterate apart from slow?

>>54891233
>ETH is high because people don’t care about technicals
>Chainlink is low because people care about technicals

>>54891266
>ETH is high, therefore people don't give a shit about technicals
>LINK is low, therefore people are focused more on the technical aspect
it's a very simple concept to grasp if you're not a massive brainlet, really

>>54888196
>restrictive 15 minute cities
What is this? Probably the most retarded conspiracy theory of all. Here in Europe we have walkable cities with both houses and shops so we don't need to take the car even to buy groceries, but if we want we can hop in our cars and drive anywhere. You ameritards are terrified of THIS?
This is why the world considers you retarded.

>>54891114
>first deadline ever set
>three initiatives
>released half baked staking and no ccip or abstraction

>24 posts by this fudding tranny
Imagine spending all day, everyday fudding and not even getting paid

Any og linker unironically still bullish? I think this 1 year long range has finally killed my hopes that this could ever pump anywhere near past ATH ever again, it doesn't matter if the project is "important", the market doesn't care, no one seems to care in fact, I've never been so bearish on LINK and crypto holy shit, at least back in 2018 I still had the impression I was invested in the future of finance, now it's clear the only thing to invest in are absolutely worthless, 0 utility copy paste meme tokens

I'm so tired bros

>>54891364
>bulgarian posting
>1pbtid = bot/samefag
>2≥pbtid = trannie
>linkie posting
>1pbtid = based marine
>2≥pbtid = based marine
why is no one talking about this unfair double standard against fellow /biz/posters??
the injustice is making me sick! kek

>>54891292
Why is it that when governments and NGOs openly state their insane intentions, you get retards like you screaming "CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!" every time someone talks about it? Or even worse, they try to downplay and defend it by conflating it with something like walkable cities.

>>54887958
CCIP wasn't even a concept in 17/18, stop making this shit up.

>>54887908
Bitcoin has already solved this monkey nigger your shitcoin Corporation based in the Cayman Islands ain't it. I hate you shitcoin niggers so much it's unreal.

>>54891138
lol this

>>54891279
That’s exactly the point, dumbass

>>54891613
yes dumbass, my point that is
ETH didn't go up because it had amazing fundamentals, it went up because of ERC20 shitcoins and acting as the defacto platform for all things DeFi related.
If ETH was still stuck at triple digits people would be fucking irate, but, thanks to the massive ROI it boasts, no one gives a dime about scalability, fees, MEV, etc
LINK is stuck on a 3 year downtrend, and it has been marketed as "fundamentally sound" and "critical infrastructure for facilitating real world adoption of smart contracts", so naturally people will attack the (lack of) fundamentals.
If LINK did not bleed to death, people would not bat an eye on the team shitcanning staking/CCIP or whatever, they would instead assume that if the price remains high, they must be doing something right!
this is how things work in this "industry" you chose to invest in

>>54891292
Useful idiot detected

>>54891677
>it went up because of ERC20 shitcoins
Which was possible only because of ETH’s fundamentals

>>54891734
then BNB is more fundamentally sound!

>>54891742
BNB chain is an EVM chain.
Guess what the E in EVM stands for.

>>54891781
but dude, you can create shitcoins on it just like ETH, isn't that "fundamentals"??

>>54891796
> isn't that "fundamentals"??
Yes.

>>54891810
thanks for agreeing with me then!

>>54891817
ETH laid the foundation for BNB chain’s fundamentals.

>>54891837
and now BNB is eating ETH's lunch!
forgive me anon, seeing that you mouthbreathers are now focusing on "muh ETH vs BNB fundamentals" I'll begin to reformat my posts in a more clear and concise way
>then BNB is more fundamentally sound! /s
/s = sarcasm

also, to be perfectly clear, nobody sane considers the ability to create ponzi shitcoins out of thin air as a "fundamental value" except from delusional "In It For The Tech" laggards who missed 2013&2017 manias
without /s

>>54891871
>and now BNB is eating ETH's lunch!
It’s still based on Ethereum.
It’s also rank 4 by market cap.

>>54891900
>nobody sane considers the ability to create ponzi shitcoins out of thin air as a "fundamental value"
ETH is the case study for smart contracts. That has value in and of itself.

>>54891919
great, it seems like this "study of smart contracts" is actually worth more than the "implementation of smart contracts"
now you may go ahead and list all the important, fundamental breakthroughs ETH has achieved from 2018 to today, which correspondingly led to ETH appreciating 4,000% from the bottom!
I'm waiting.

>>54891938
Plenty happened in that timeframe.

>>54891956
such as? sharding or scaling definitively ain't one of them, the switch to PoS has actually made the network worse, so you can't really argue that's a fundamental breakthrough, can you?
why don't you at least try offering some examples?

>>54891971
>p-pls talk to me

>>54892014
>no retorts
thanks for playing pal
amazing progress I might add

>>54891292
The fear is not the nice places where you can walk to most things spreading. The fear is a model kind of based on that which seeks to restrict movement and control the populace.
Regarding link: I was hoping we get something this Friday but odds seem slim.

>34 pbtid

No really, get a hobby.

>>54892014
>>54891956
>>54891919
>>54891837
>>54891810
>>54891781

>>54892212
please avoid from applying this unfair pbtid double standard, thanks :(

>>54892260
What unfair pbtid double standard? Literally 30% of the pbtid are yours.
Par for the course with Link fudders.

>>54892280
this discrimination based on post context has to stop, it's unfair!

I boughted more.

>>54892280
Can we stop PBTID shaming? Sometimes people need to post multiple times to get a point across and there are some valid criticisms with what chainlink has been doing recently that are worth mentioning.

>>54892295
>2pbtid
oh no, another samefag/bot!

>>54892295
>valid criticisms
*valid only for Chainlink, not any other crypto

>>54892341
here we go again
>I demand that people hold LINK to the same standard as ETH, refusing to accept that negative/positive perceptions are created from PA!
>I demand that people stop caring about "numbergoup" only!

>>54892389
News flash: ETH fell 89% against BTC between 2017 and 2019, and also didn’t break back above $300ish until EOY 2020.

LINK has hit 87% down against btc since peaking in 2020.

These are facts, but you don’t care for those, I know

>>54892389
>from PA

>>54892421
news flash, LINK has been on a longer bear market (1000 days vs 680), and has experienced a much sharper decline than ETH ever did, especially in fiat, which translates to much lower upside and at worst case, same downside.
This is fairly obvious from comparing their charts, all time ROI, and, most importantly, sentiment. Really, you must be either really dumb, or actually disingenuous to pretend to not understand this simple point.
>>54892440
is this bait? if so, it's shit

>>54892494
Tell us what PA means, anon.

>>54892494
39 fud posts kek.

I sincerely mean this. Seek professional help.

>>54892557
(P)rice
(A)ction
amazing retort, anon, you should do this for a living.

>>54892566
42 now
kek is with us marines

>>54892568
>Link's price action is bad because Link's price action is bad

truly one of the statements ever made

>>54892580
(You)r original argument was "why aren't people criticizing ETH as much"?? and the answer to that is PA (Price Action), but nice try at moving the goalposts to the stratosphere LMAO
I was jk before, you really suck at this

>>54892576
That's 41 retard. Try for 100.

>>54892603
:( so based 42 isn't here? how about 216 just for you anon?

Can someone please tell me what pbtid stands for? I've been on here for about 3 years and do not know. Google reveals nothing, either.
I suspect a lot of people who use it don't actually know what the acronym is

>>54892601
>Link is perceived badly because it has bad price action
>Link has bad price action because it is perceived badly

>>54892613
Posts by this ID

>>54891971
Tansactions fee cost above $50 currently, what was the entire point of going PoS and the whole merge thing?

I'm kicking Vitalik in the balls if I ever meet.
I'm staying on L2s and L1 chains that don't take ridiculous fees

>>54892609
I haven't read any of your posts so maybe you already said, but can you tell me why you spend so much time shitting on Link? Are you spending all of your free time trying to save a bunch of anons from losing money? If so, why do you seem to get so angry about it?

It's weird and makes me think you're mentally broken and probably have a vendetta against Link because you're a MEV faggot, Bulgarian nigger, got rugged on Celsius or the like or some combo of all of the above?

>>54892625
unironically yeah, it's a vicious cycle but it goes something like this
>Link pumped and dumped to the mean instead of reaching a "new paradigm!!11"
>people turned bearish
>self-fulfilling prophesy
but the overarching point is, Chainlink failing to deliver anything meaningful has certainly contributed to that negativity and denying that simple fact and constantly invoking ETH's or ADA's shortcomings is burying your head in the sand
>>54892652
it's a feature not a bug
>>54892659
>I haven't read any of your posts
too bad anon, when you're done I'll be here to answer any questions you might have
better be quick, I'm already making new posts btid as we speak!

>>54892648
Kill yourself

>>54892648
Thank You. I knew what it meant but not what it stood for. What a relief.

>>54891050
considering ETH and ADA have significantly higher market cap to LINK
yes i think this is reasonable to point out, hey our "competition" or other products in the space have way higher value than LINK does but yet LINK is well below them and also has a proven track record of delivering products on time unlike these others

>>54892679
>unironically yeah
That's the very definition of circular reasoning. Congrats, I guess.

>>54892494
I didn't say anything about its length, you're trying to strawman, I was only interested in total % decline. Sure, take your "risk free" (not actually risk free) rate and discount the added year or so, maybe they're identical % declines or LINK slightly more. But you're telling me you're staring at this trend-less market and not at all weighing LINK's massive profit potential changing it's PA for the better? Yeah, right.

In terms of timing, LINK is merely a hundred days or so off from following the same projection as Bitcoin (from its creation). Identical market caps at these same stages, even (5-6 year mark).

ETH had an ICO bubble to make it go faster. No one is arguing that ETH wasn't the fastest ICO - to make it run. LINK is its own asset and it does not even aim to displace L1s entirely nor could it.

The heat rises

>>54892652
Playing memes and shitcoins on arbitrum
Defi and yield farming on MultiversX via egld ride etc

I'm not using ethereum until I'm out of options

>>54892679
link is a shitcoin because its been six almost seven years and the network cant stand on its own feet. Nodes are still kyc and the fat fuck keeps changing what the protocol is instead of just doing what was in the first white paper.

>>54893199
Sergey's contracts aren't "the network", they're an application of the network.

>>54893012
I'm staking the Argent Gen-2 from QoWatt, great boost for earning yield staking ride

>>54893216
god dam you're dumb.
If sergey stopped paying for the network would it still be working?

>>54893199
>Nodes are still kyc
Noob here. Why is that? Whats the rationale or explenation from link team?>>54893216

>>54893338
go on twitter and as sergey or chainlink faggot.eth

>>54892967
>But you're telling me you're staring at this trend-less market and not at all weighing LINK's massive profit potential changing it's PA for the better
yes, unironically
do you find that so hard to believe?

>>54893409
sorry, I assumed your intelligence. My bad.

>>54893500
>if you don't want to take this gambling bet seriously you're a retard
kek
you are beyond delusional at this point

>>54893500
>merely a hundred days off from following Bitcoin since inception
look at the amount of mental gymnastics you have to go through to even present a bullish case.
also that's flat out wrong, Bitcoin never had a 1000+ day bear market, ever.

>>54893312
Up to 3 tokens per day?
Yeah wouldn't make sense to fade on that

>>54893334
Sergey is paying for the contracts, dumbass.
If you use VRF, automation, custom DONs, … then you’re paying “the network” without any involvement from Sergey or his KYC.

>>54893662
good thing it isn't a 1000+ day bear market. LINK peaked in USD in May 2021. What's 365 x 2, if you can even compute it? You're referring to LINK/BTC (which is not even at 1000 days yet), get your narrative straight.

>>54893662

>>54893918
My "narrative" has been consistent, I've been continuously saying "3 year LINK downturn"
>is not even at 1000 days yet
excuse me, 995 days and counting
kek

>>54893662
and here's another (you)

anyone still holding this shitcoin is a genetic deadend loser

>>54893992
>>54894002
kek and here comes another round of mental gymnastics, so your own prediction is parabolic rise in 2023&24? let's see how this goes

>>54894030
24&25* I meant

>>54894030
not mental gymnastics at all. Check the market caps. BTC ranged for roughly a year at $3-$4B area in 2015, much like LINK now. While bitcoin had a larger return from lowest public price, it's a fair launch (the OG) vs an ICO. LINK's floor was $50M mcap or so (raised $32M). It's not an argument they're identical, but instead that multi-year lulls are normal in ascent to the top 5. ETH went through similar terrible sentiment in 2019 (double digit shitcoin).

I invested in 2018 at roughly $70M mcap, or avg of $0.195. Divested in H2 2019 and outperformed this but am back since last year. The R&D is coming to fruition

>>54894190
>but instead that multi-year lulls are normal in ascent to the top 5. ETH went through similar terrible sentiment in 2019 (double digit shitcoin).
true, but I still don't see this, for example ETH lost a single spot to Ripple twice for very brief amounts of time, LINK has collapsed from #5 and hasn't recovered ever since (hence why I don't count the fiat top in May 21), no matter how you try to frame it, BTC and ETH's respective bearmarkets are not comparable to LINK's in any way.
You're talking about mcap, what about volume?
Don't even answer that, you know what the answer is.

>>54894246
cool story bro, I still hold 1000 link and it didn't cost me that much I just don't feel like selling haha

>>54894260
if you had any conviction in your position you would buy more rather than have such a small amount. Holding 10k LINK should be a prerequisite to having any discussion on /biz/ about it.

>>54888326
bad and good are subjective
what's bad for you is good for them and their family
everyone needs to stop pretending they wouldn't fuck over an entire nation if it profited them and their families and they could get away with it

>>54894246
In USD terms, volume is way higher on LINK. Two orders of magnitude even lmao. Why do you keep giving me these softball questions that are easily verifiable on coingecko / Tradingview? How retarded do you have to be to think market participation 2014 - 2015 was anything like it is now?

You morons don't send your best

>>54895072
Do you think link can hit triple digits sometime in 2025?

>>54894246
Serious question, do you get paid to do this or do you do it for free?

>>54895115
Low 100's, and frankly, I don't even need that to hit

>>54895143
>I don't even need that to hit
How come?

>>54887800
>>54887824
Let me guess, it will PUMP the price just like STAKING, right?

>>54895072
I didn't mean that smartass, I meant that LINK's volume has also been on a constant decline as well, while BTC always raised the floor in bearmarkets both in price, in volume and in mcap. LINK is trading at the same volume levels (and lower) with 2020. The only reason the mcap is higher in the first place is because of the token inflation in these past 3 years.
Touch grass.

>>54895360
>52 pbtid
>touch grass
kek

>>54895360
volumes always fluctuate

"In 2014, Bitcoin's daily trading volume was below $ 100 million and sometimes it fell below $ 10 million, but by early 2018, that number had risen to over $ 20,000 million."

This is why you're best off using a log scale. Here's BTC since 2014:

Who the fuck would post 52 times in a thread over the course of 12 hours about an asset they supposedly are not invested in

>>54895520
The powers that work tirelessly to suppress chainlink send their worst agents to fud on here.

>52 pbtid
>touch grass
kek you couldn't write comedy like this

Posting 50+ times over the course of an entire day about an asset you don’t hold and actively dislike is perfectly normal you cuckold chuds

>>54895505
stop playing dump, LINK's volume is not fluctuating, it is declining, if you zoom out just a bit more on the BTC chart you'll see vast difference from 2013-14.
the BTC comparison is baseless, there's no parallel in percentages, timeframes or volume, it's literally grasping at straws.

are you all mad I ruined your little "CCIP in 2 months" LARP thread? kek

>>54895505
oops forgot pic

>>54896164
so tell us what this means about chainlink and the future of the project. Is it over for real this time? Should I sell?

>>54887800
this would align with insider saying that mid 2023 staking would be 1$/link and grow to be like $2-$7 eventually

anyone got the screenshot?

>are you all mad I ruined your little "CCIP in 2 months" LARP thread? kek

>>54896645
There is no way that one can be true he said 2 usd per link staked per month
The appreciation for that to be real is rather improbable
Not to mention that a cll insider has no way of telling how this banking crisis is gonna fuck us over

this coin is going to fucking zero
no ccip
functions on testnet
there is nothing to drive the price in the short or long term

>>54896728
what about when ccip or functions launch? wouldn't that drive price in the long term?

>>54896360
well, right now it looks like it has formed a nice bottom and logic says it should break out at some point, but this token is provably cursed.
then again, if the banking collapse is
>happening, for real this time
we're all fucked
who knows
>>54896670
that's me!

>>54896149
>are you all mad I ruined your little "CCIP in 2 months" LARP thread? kek
Imagine being this inbred

>>54896749
can I ask you how much chainlink you hold, if any? You seem to be more invested into this project than the most die-hard shills on this board.

>>54896149
Ruined?
Buddy, you're the one keeping this thread alive!

>>54896745
I meant mid-term actually, my bad
I do think chainlink has value capture long term
just worried where we're headed

>>54896749
>56 replies over 12 hours in this thread alone just trying to fud some apparently useless token
Lmao I bought 100 tokens last week loser fudcuck.
How have your fud threads been going btw? I mostly go there just to laugh at how many times you guys samefag to keep the threads on life support but I noticed youve been fighting some kind of bot that just spams the same discord nufudder pasta half a dozen times while you rage at it until you just bail and make a new thread.
Have you considered reporting it? Or would that get your own threads shut down because they're basically garbage spam threads anyway like that one anon pointed out a while back?

>>54889547
youre the type of nigga who buys when it is pumped

>>54896749
You without a doubt hold Link with how much knowledge you have of the Link lore here. You are also Jewish based on your pilpul speech patterns. I’d be willing to bet youre one of the higher level bashers. Just gonna let you know you don’t come across as serious at all and anyone with an IQ in 3 digits can see right through what your doing.

>>54895308
Staking is still barely in alpha, you can't claim that anything did or didn't happen due to staking because staking isn't implemented.

>>54897976
cope chainchud incel

>>54897976
let me guess, the staking that they implemented isn't actually staking and it isn't actually implemented

>>54898172
yeah, you guessed accurately.

>>54898172
see here, v1 is still a while off too
v0.2 coming in sept-dec which will allow withdrawals, not sure what else but probably minor

>>54898425
>node delegation
how old fashioned. AI should just auto delegate to maximise efficiency and decentralisation

>>54890151
I mean the porn plebbit retard french thomas not this chad thomas

>>54891401
Then start learning smart contract development and contribute to us all making it.

>>54898491
So is holding chainlink nofap while fudding it is coombrained?

>>54896645
>mid 2023
>$1 per staked LINK per MONTH

>>54887824
Yeah I cant really see it doing anything either. Staking is an obvious function that everyone can figure out and no one bought in. CCIP is some obscure tech buzzword stuff. No one is going to even care.

>>54898463
would assume that that would be an option
chainlink is a protocol for composing oracle networks
so far cll have been managing most of the dons but the finalised vision is that many parties will be launching and monitoring dons and they can decide the composition of the node operators and requirements, collateral etc
gns is an example of someone running a don currently
https://thereadingape.substack.com/p/chainlink-build-a-custom-chainlink
the key with node delegation is that new nodes or those with lower reputation will be able to put up more collateral in order to get in the game

>>54899156
Having delegating with ATOM and GRT at different times, I've come to the conclusion that an AI could easily do the job better than me. I'm just scrolling through random names and picking a high reputation node outside the top 10.
An AI could be much more dynamic, moving my liquidity between DONs as network requirements change.

>>54899187
you as a staker wouldn't be doing any delegating, it would be those to control the don
>Auto-Delegation
>In v0.1, staked LINK from node operators serves as a direct quantifiable commitment to their performance, while community stake adds an additional layer of incentivization to the honest and reliable performance of node operators. All Node Operator Stakers in v0.1 will earn a small percentage of the Community Stakers’ staking rewards—referred to as delegation rewards—given that node operators are providing a service on behalf of Community Stakers (i.e. performing oracle computation for the Data Feed).

>The design is similar to existing stake-based delegation designs as the rewards derived from community stake are used to further increase network security through the economic alignment of node operators. Community Stakers in v0.1 will see their stake automatically delegated to Node Operator Stakers, without node operators taking control of community stake. This mechanism is referred to as “Auto-Delegation”.

>Community Stakers will start out having their staked LINK automatically delegated equally across all actively staking node operators in order to validate the Auto-Delegation design during the initial v0.1 beta phase, allowing node operators to start from an equal position before a more advanced reputation system planned for a future Staking release is implemented. Auto-Delegation fuels a dynamic where the greater the amount of community stake in the v0.1 pool, the greater the incentives for node operators to perform reliably, given that the delegation rewards paid out to node operators are higher.

>In a future Staking release, Auto-Delegation may evolve into a dynamic mechanism, a design where community stake is automatically delegated across actively staking node operators in variable amounts based on reputation metrics, such as historical performance, length of time LINK is staked, and amount staked.

>>54899221
Oh good. I've always thought that getting idiots like me to choose who to delegate to was a flawed idea.
Thanks for the info, anon.

>>54898847
>average link fudder that got doxed
Yes

>>54899156
these other DONs...will they be using LINK tokens too?

>>54899914
yeah, have a read of the article:

Link rewards for nodes in custom DON
To incentivise Chainlink nodes to fetch the price, LINK rewards have to be given to them. How does Gain Network ensure that the nodes always have LINK tokens to fund their work?

A small fee is charged on every trade and a portion of that fee goes to their Chainlink nodes

This incentivizes them by paying for the gas cost and also making a profit

Their custom Chainlink DON is sustainable and profitable for the nodes

The 8 nodes earn a total of $35k per month on average

About 4-5k per month for each node

>>54891292
>Here in Europe we
Live in ways and believe things that (ostensibly) free people intensely disagree with, which is why our ancestors left you in the first place. You can think we are retarded all you want, but the problems with our way of life only ever arose from being too soft on faggots who think like you who ended up begging to be let in for economic opportunity. Should've just let the wops and micks and germans suffer outside because they never really believed in being free, they just wanted some extra goybux to spend,
just like (you).
Now they outnumber the native free peoples and their cousins across the pond mock us for the problems their kin engendered. Fair enough, lesson learned...

Linkies are as good as made it at this point as we're all invested in the 'sure thing'

>>54902088
do not fumble the bag anons

captcha:8NVAH, for never selling your original stack and staking for build rewards

>>54891401
LINK is a deca thousand dollar coin.
Don’t be a brainlet.

Do you think fucking monkey nft buyers and XRP queers could comprehend LINK?

We’re invested in this because of SWIFT.

>>54898425
>stake slashing
exciting, so when v2 releases our staked link can be deleted? bullish

>>54904352
>DAILY REMINDER
Chainlink is a cuckold cult made up of schizos who touch their chastity cage while they watch their portfolio make new ATLs in Bitcoin and Ethereum

>>54898172
Well done!
It's a small closed alpha offering a completely barebones version of staking based only on price feeds.