/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54774038
Monero is a midwit trap you fell for anon

>>54774038
This has nothing to do with whatever random shitcoin you're pushing

>>54774097
Except it is the only usefull crypto coin, kys.

>>54774155
Useful for parting stupid people with their money

>>54774100
It has, but you are too stupid to see it, chatgpt. Fuck you and your creators.

>>54774181
Haha shill. Your 'arguments' dry up in the summer sun.

>>54774038
I aint reading that, what does this have to do with XMR?

>>54774209
Only in the world of internet shitcoins could someone down 98% claim some kind of superiority

>>54774232
Angst you have. And you are losing.

>>54774038
You know monero is shit when people compliment the tech but warn people not to buy

>>54774274
You're outperformed by dogcoins.
Also
>Unauditable supply.
Cope (and rope).

>>54774274
>B-bitcoin is losing!

>>54774230
It has everything to do with XMR, and if you believe otherwise you’re a chatgpt shill

everyone knows that monero is the only crypto with a real use case. they are just jealous so they try to create some absurd fud or they pretend to have some higher moral ground to criticize people using xmr.
fuck them all, keep trying to merge crypto with chatgpt and cbdc's as well as pretending that btc is fungible.
irrational markets MIGHT keep going forever but rational markets WILL keep going forever.
OH WHAT'S THAT? you coin doesn't have a use case? then i guess its not a coin, its a shitcoin.

>>54775438
The use case of bitcoin is perfect property.

>>54775619
>market leaks $10bn a year
>censorable under mining centralization >exchanges blacklisting tainted coins
lol
lmao even

>more desperate shilling from a feminine mind that doesn't realize he's been psyopped
monero isn't special, privacy is,
and privacy is coming everywhere

>>54775667
>tainted coins
wait until monero baggies realize every coin is tainted in monero, with no way to remove it (unless you have virgin mined xmr from the source)

>>54775619
sure man, you can perfectly own your house until the state decides that you shouldn't.
if an asset can be linked to you then it can be seized. good luck covering all the tracks left by btc.

>>54775667
Moneroheads really reveal themselves as just total mongs much worse than any other sort of shitcoiner.

>>54775684
if all monero coins are tainted, in other words monero is illegal worldwide, then how is some self mined xmr going to help?
all xmr is equal, you have no way to tell if it is freshly mined or not. you don't even understand how xmr works.
in venezuela the dollar is completely forbidden as a currency but people still use it. WHAT! HOW! IT IS FORBIDDEN!!!1!

>>54775786
self-mined xmr (with a view key) can prove you mined it yourself, to your keys, to an extent.
it's the closest thing to untainted xmr that's possible on monero. everything else is tainted in the same way bitcoin coming out of a mixer is.

>illegal worldwide
no, just as illegal as any other banned cryptocurrency in these fantasy scenarios. xmr baggies just don't understand how monero as a whole can be trivially treated the same way tainted bitcoin is treated.
in other words, "tainted bitcoin" is not an argument FOR monero, it's an argument AGAINST monero.

>>54775884
worst case scenario, all monero is tainted.
rn monero is banned in some countries in different degrees, but that doesn't stop people from using it. now you might say the same thing about btc, it can be tainted but people will still use it and that is be true, but the difference is that if some btc is tainted and some btc is not then the same coins no longer have the same value.
not to mention the obvious lack of total privacy.
why go the extra mile to get more problems? just get xmr.

>>54776016
because right now and in the future it seems monero is more problems.
using it makes sense, if you need it. holding it? investing in it? pointless at best, devastating at worst.

>>54776051
investing? i don't know about that, i wouldn't recommend it as an investment.
as a currency i would only recommend it if the thing you want to trade can only be traded with xmr, monero only markets.
monero its a coin, use it.
its time to stop moon faggotry and try to look a little beyond, otherwise keep betting on dogcoins and aicoins, i have nothing against that, they are just risky ((investments)).

Do any of you chuds know how I can find the xmr I have on my ledger? I have been trying to restore from hardware with the gui wallet and I have made sure to back date the sync to well before I bought the Monero but my balance is still showing zero. Any advice is appreciated.

>>54776266
Thanks for playing

>>54776266
can you access the seed?

>>54776217
if you're using it as *part* of a privacy scheme, then monero is great
if it's your *entire* tool, then you're doing it wrong

that's all

>>54776429
Actually sir you can just buy monero on kraken on your iPhone and you have magic privacy

>>54776266
did they change the derivation path?
ledger has a funky way of creating your monero private key that's completely non-standard and which nobody else uses.

they have a github with some code you can use on a secure machine to put your seed in and it spits out your monero key.
if that key doesn't work when sync'd in a wallet then you might be able to change the derivation path if it did change and get the old one where your funds are.

but you're on your own. i'd never own a ledger after they leaked everyone's personal info. closed source too. glowing.

>>54774097
BTC/ETH are the midwit filter. XMR is for criminals

>>54776363
I have the seed to the ledger yes but I would rather not type that into the gui wallet as that seed is securing large amounts of other crypto and has never been typed into a computer before.

>>54776456
I have no way of knowing this rn, I’ll do a little more investigating Ty.

>>54776485
you have to move your coins then
different derivation paths

>>54775884
>monero as a whole can be trivially treated the same way tainted bitcoin is treated.
What? No it can't. If you're using KYC off-ramps instead of drugs or gold then you're a retard.

>>54776530
>just use it all p2p no kyc
You could just use bitcoin for this

>>54776546
The difference is p2p BTC is public and traceable. XMR is not

>>54776429
sure, the greatest fuck up always come from people not from tech.
not going to pretend monero is perfect because it is fucking far away from being it but so far its the only crypto that makes any sense to me.

>>54776485
monero has a very old seed format. non-standard, based on the old obsolete electrum seed standard. ledger generates one from your normal bip-39 mnemonic, but you can't access it without running some software on your computer.
you just need to use whatever software you saw your coins in again with your hw wallet to get them back. the monero app on the ledger is what generates the key i believe, so if that changed your monero keys changed, but there should be backwards compatibility.

>>54776530
you can use drugs and gold to offramp tainted bitcoin, tainted cash, whatever you want. that's not an argument. an argument based on tainted bitcoin affects monero in the same way. the black market is fine with both, the white market won't accept either, but you're more likely to find somewhere that accepts tainted bitcoin than supports monero at all.

it's a legal issue, because taint is a legal construct.

>>54776560
at least you're one of the sane ones. the amount of schizo posting by this new breed of monero maxis over the past few months has made monero look like fucking shiba inu.

>>54776585
Calling them maxis confers some quasi legitimacy to them, they are basic shitcoin bagholders

>>54776616
the world is full of altcoin maximalists. maximalist confers no legitimacy, there are dogecoin maximalists, after all.

>>54776569
I only ever used it with the gui wallet. I’m trying to do the same thing on a different computer and I can’t get my balance to show up. I don’t think ledger live even supports Monero.

>>54776634
Doge will massively outperform monero over the next five years at least

>>54776640
move the wallet file over and try again?
i think you can export your view key while using a hw wallet so maybe just try importing that as a view only wallet and see if that shows your coins up. if not then something has changed the key.

>>54776654
maybe, but it's likely it topped forever in '21.

>>54775438
I'm a monero maxi, but I admit monero's utility is as a currency and not as a store of value. Normies/colorcattle will NEVER EVER actually care about privacy and the fact the PATRIOT act still exists 20 years later in the "freest" country in the world should indicate that.
If XMR ever becomes a useful speculative store of value, it'll only happen when XMRUSD (or whatever you would call a stablecoin using monero's privacy tech) is introduced.

>>54776693
There will never be a stablecoin like this

>>54776693
>monero's utility is as a currency and not as a store of value
a good currency is also a good 'store of value', it can't lack the 'store of value' property. otherwise its a pointless currency.
>Normies/colorcattle will NEVER EVER actually care about privacy
100% agree with that. ppl still use whatsapp knowing that meta have access to everything they do within the app. the worst part is that they have many options to avoid this and still they don't.
> speculative store of value
> speculative
sorry but the word speculative should never be used in the same phrase along with the term 'store of value'.
>XMRUSD
xmr being stable to usd doesn't mean it would be stable at all. what happens if the usd is not stable?

>>54776688
I just found the old wallet files and I think I can get it to work. I didn’t realize keeping those was important, I thought all I needed was my private key.