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I might buy a little bit of copper

>>54763605

>>54763627
kys

>>54763627
>gold too rare
>copper too abundant
>silver just right

picrel is my biggest regret of 2023. Why didn't I buy?

crypto nerds will seethe

Anyone here ever use your silver to grow incredibly dense and sporadic strains of bacteria that topple over all forms of life? Asking for a friend.

Also just hit 1k au and am not working on 2 ounces ag. We did it Reddit!

I wish you could get some green gold numismatic.

>>54763656
It will always feel high when you buy, until you look back and realize you actually traded worthless 2019 dollars for money that is created in a fucking star.

>>54763680
Here's a bigger one anon.

Quick question that I see asked once in a while but shills keep spreading disinformation. How do you reach your family on the importance of stacking? Or do you just not mention it at all?

I'm currently hoarding a dozen boxes of silver that I plan on dying with unless I have kids or something. Probably well over 50 pounds of pure silver plus even more than that in junk silver. My plan is to live as a homeless man and keep my hoard hidden if the economy truly collapsed.

>>54763697

>>54763805
based cheese enthusiast with leprechaun moneys
i just got back from the store. i got some smoked cheddar.
smoked cheddar cheese is soooo good and tasty

>>54763755
>not mention it at all
If they don't already stack, don't talk to them about it. Wealth changes how people view you. PERSEC/OPSEC. Even if some shifty relative overhears you have any amount of silver and the price skyrockets, they may ask for money "just because we're family..." or even rob you. My dad stacks, gives me silver for birthdays and Christmas. He has no clue how much I own. I casually mentioned to him I have a 1/10 AGE, I won't tell him I actually have two along with other gold. I may mention specific pieces I've picked up, but he'll never see my whole stack. Though might show him some European junk coins one day.

I missed work today because I had a HORRIFIC nightmare last night that my stack was stolen, and I was on an unreal quest to get it back... I am a heavy sleeper to begin with, but this dream was so other worldly I slept through 2 blaring alarms for over 2 hours fighting in the dream world to get my stack back.... I wish I could say this is the first time it happened to me but it's not.. Any other Anons ever have the nightmare of a stolen stack and wake up to the reality to find out it was all just a dream?

>>54763699
>will always feel high when you buy,
yeah, i know those feels.
every time i buy some more silver, i feel like i just got a shot of morphine,
its so comfy to buy and stack silver

>>54763858
>HORRIFIC nightmare last night that my stack was stolen
That's fucking scary alright! Holy shit!

>>54763858
i have dreams of being a thief and at nite i creep my way into unsuspecting houses to steal any valuables especially the silver and gold stacks of heavy sleepers
muhuwahahahah

>>54763841
Are you just paranoid or is your family that dysfunctional that your own father might betray you?

>>54763858
>I had a HORRIFIC nightmare last night that my stack was stolen

Im not getting any sleep now, thanks.

why do the shills kvetch so?

>>54763697
its a leprechauns invasion

I've got 200 oz of silver - looking to get my first 1oz of gold. Should I just get a buffalo?

>>54763962
For a long time I thought shills were just bored oldfags or even bots but now I understand that there are people paid to post any narrative they want on the internet. Many platforms are bots and shills. They truly want as few people as possible to make it after they rug the normie population.

If you haven't received the fake vaccine.

Haven't continued buying large things on credit.

Are stacking gold and silver.

Then you are a menace to their society and theu hate your guts. That's why they seek to undermine our board, and many other websites.

>>54763997

>>54764003
>buying gold
>not getting pre-1933 US gold coinage
you. are not going to make it.

Gold is up 307% from 1983-2022 giving you a rate of return of 0.84%
If you look at gold since 1980 you would have a negative rate of return.

In that same time period
Large US is up 7,000%
Small US is up 5,000%
Large Value is up 9,000%
Small Value is up 17,000%

>Not to mention the 80% premium on spot silver prices.
>$25 oz but you have to pay an extra $20 per unless you are buying stacks of 5,000 oz from comex.
Gold and silver bugs are highly misinformed at best and at worst they are kikes peddling their shekels to stupid goyim with an absurd jewup on the price thus making all buyers have negative equity.

Buying over priced silver is just like paying over MSRP for a new car. It’s dumb and you will get burned.

https://www.paulwinkler.com/podcast/paul-responds-to-skepticism-about-poor-gold-returns/

Proud black man here, we out here stacking.

Death to usury. Death to fiat. Death to kikes. (Who brought my ancestors over on the slave ships)

>>54763755
>>54763841

You sound like fairy bitches and you don't deserve a good family. Imagine having a family and not sharing your love and wealth to make everyone have a happy healthy lifestyle. Like seriously what is wrong with you? How can humans be so selfish? So conceited? Even if you were to live as a homeless man it doesn't matter because eventually people will just eat you and find your stack anyways. I have told all my family and all my family stacks, preps and motivates their friends to do the same. Even our drunken great uncle is stacking now. If you don't spread the wealth and the love then you will lose it. You will be left with nothing and if all you had to do was give your relatives five ounces to live a haply life and yet refused to - you're less than scum pond in my eyes.

>>54764029
>Gold is up 307% from 1983-2022 giving you a rate of return of 0.84%

Anon, it's up more than that and its acceleration hasn't even started yet. Also, gold is a hedge, not an investment.

>>54764003
>Should I just get a buffalo?
No

>>54764029
>>54764077
Bonus info.

>>54764084
Why not? What would you get for a 1oz gold coin?

OY VEYYYYYYYYY STOP BUYING SILVER YOU FUCKING GOYIM YOU ANIMALS USE THE CURRENCY WE GIVE YOU

>>54764113
>What would you get for a 1oz gold coin?
Oh i dont know, if only i had included some sort of clue within my post somewhere.

>>54764003
Get whatever you'd like. I prefer Brits and Maples due to their security features...and they're easy on the eyes.

>>54764121
no.

>>54764113
Meh. Buffalos are OK. That was my first gold ounce and I was pretty underwhelmed, ngl. Personally I am considering sticking to just St. Gaudens double eagles. Other than that, I'll probably just get whatever is cheapest.

>>54764135
I think anon wants an actual gold coin, not an alloy.

>>54763858
I don't have nightmares anymore since God removed the parasitic dark spirits from my body.

>>54764135
Zoomers are unable to solve puzzles anon. that's why vidya had gotten so lame these days
they're literally made for the lowest common denominator

>>54764061
Have you considered the possibility that their family members behave in a way that makes them hard to trust? I'm sure we can point to some instances in human history where families have been very dysfunctional

>>54763868
In the name of progress we can do a lot of things, but it doesn't make sense to regress. We're meant to use gold and silver as money.
Thousands of years ago they kept the shiny metal out of the ground they had no idea it could do the things it does. If somebody told me we were about to stop using electricity, or stop manufacturing cpu's or semiconductors... I just think no matter where you are in our recent history of 5000-10000 years it serves a purpose.
They used to put a silver coin in water barrels to keep it clean on a journey up until the turn of the century (20th).
We can't make more of it, despite the meme we aren't mining an asteroid anytime soon (or profitably) and people are about to find out for the last time that we can't trust government.
In Road to Serfdom, Hayek mentions that the stakes for fucking up society are higher now that we have nuclear weapons... I really think having a credit market that fucks everything up because it is unanchored is going to need to be addressed.
If we don't solve the problem them we don't have to worry, because we're already gone.

Remember when 70 posts by these ids, no responses samefagging FUD anon said :

>Silver doesn't have the properties of money
>Stop posting silver and copper in /PMG/, go make scrap metals general or some shit
>"Precious" does not just refer to anything that happens to be a coin
>You'll have a hard time selling silver
>2x2=3
>Silvers down again (0.2% on the day)
>Huuuge premiums, theyre huge
>It costs $7oz to mine silver
>We get paid 5 merc dimes bonus when you use 1 or 0 arrows cuz u triggered
>LMAO x10

>>54764324
>costs $7oz to mine silver
yeah maybe in 1954 show me the mining company with an all in sustaining cost at $7 an oz and we're literally all millionaires tomorrow morning lmfao nobody wants to open a silver mine unless the labor is essentially free, we get all the silver when we go looking for gold which by the way is 80x the price of silver which makes perfect fucking sense when there's only 8x-18x silver to gold on the planet.
Jesus fucking christ no wonder this economy is retarded lol

>>54764247
Perhaps I was merely pretending to be retarded after downing a fifth of vodka

>>54764324
I'm just so glad that it got me to use the auto filter, not only for here but for other boards that have social media names spammed to bypass the advertisement rules.

>>54764324
>"You'll have a hard time selling this thing that's in such high demand it carries a high premium"

t. IQ Delete

same old stack pictures. same guns and coins fag. same austrian anon gold edition. same jewish IQDelete bot. This place is becoming a meme.

>>54764494
You think it's pozzed now in here? Wait until the real chaos starts after QE starts printing nonstop and the normies start piling in.

>>54763911
>Are you just paranoid or is your family that dysfunctional that your own father might betray you?
No. He'd get on my case about spending all my money on PMs instead of saving for home renovations. My upstairs is very dated and I do need to start putting cash away for it.

>>54764526
I think redditors already found you. But yeah i imagine it will get a shitload worse. Shame, used to have some good discussions. Now it's just people arguing with the kike and people posting the same pictures they posted in the last thread.

>>54763911
>>54764542
When my house is 100% up to date I'd consider showing him my entire stack. I've shown my sister my gold. She showed me her Nvidia investment. The bitch mogged me for once in her life :'(

>>54764526
>You remember the days of cheapies
>You remember the days of comfy threads

Man, those were the days.

>>54764426
AISC for 2023 is (((estimated))) to be around $15—17. He's not great at mathematical equations either. Would you ever move to a town named Cobalt?
>>54764458
I never use it anon, I probably should. I get a good laugh from his posts though. He can't even into math. I bet your online experience is very pleasant.
>>54764473
Pic related

>>54764343
Quality is terrible but nice collection.

>>54764324
>Real paper silver

>>54764705
>Silver deficit several years in a row
Indeed.

>>54764426
>lmfao nobody wants to open a silver mine
most silver doesn't come from silver mines, so your math doesn't work.

most of it comes from copper mines with an AISC of pennies.

>>54763858
My stack is in an old bookbox and looks like crap. $7-8k in value can carry with one hand.

>The banks will collapse with all fiat currencies
>my silver, gold, and bitcoin will make me part of the new financial elite.
>I will finally have sex, and takeaway woman rights.

Are we due for another dip soon or should I make a big buy tonight?

how much woman are you guys gonna buy with your silver when we get hyperinflation. I will retake what is rightfully mine.

>>54764869
I've made enough purchases to decide and stack cash for silver for at least half the summer. Make a medium purchase fren.

in the anons I trust, I still trust the plan, soon very soon we will have our revenge as it was 4told many moons ago.

>>54764858
>>54764873
Based

>>54764077
The S&P500 is about to get absolutely rekt against gold
lol

st michael has a fren now. isn't she bootyful

>>54764869
Does a $4 dip really matter?

Let's say it's mathematically certain that gold will go to 10,000 dollars this decade. What price is silver on the day it hits 10k?

>>54765099
bout $500

>>54764200
Could you please pray for me and ask God to give me the strength not to be a degenerate? Thanks.

>>54765099
$100 right?

5x gold would 5x silver. Metals don't go up in price, the dollar just goes down.

>>54765121
no, that is incorrect

The future is brighter than you can possibly imagine.

>>54765099
~$900

>>54764526
I was prepared for that. I'll take genuine retards over dishonest shills.

>>54764869
If you buy it'll dip after, if you don't buy it won't. Just do it.

>>54765099
I need about tree fiddy

Honest question, indulge my inner paranoia anons: In a serious financial crisis/ collapse, how many ounces of silver do I need to maintain a private militia for 1 year?

Anons I want to sell a 1/2oz 22k gold coin ring. $7-800 melt value I need to weigh it. $1.0-1.2k value as jewelery. What's the best place to sell?

>>54765319
about 1000 ounces per day to feed, clothe, and equip 100 men.

so maybe 365,000 ounces for a year.

>>54765240
That would be lovely.

>>54765113
Will do fren, do you have any other specific requests?

>>54763755
You'll need to be patient, it's a long battle but worth it if they listen. This is kinda what I've been doing for the past few years.
>Mention how screwy the markets are
>Fed/govt. printed out trillions in just a few years
>Inflation in pretty much all goods and services
>Bank runs/failures
>Countries ditching or looking to ditch the dollar
>Accounts can be frozen whenever the bank or govt feels like it
>We're in the hundreds of trillions in debt
>Congress is looking debase our already debased coinage
>Bring up history of money in the US, talk about what a dollar is supposed to be and what it's become
>Mention a few videos to get their brain jogging (Mike Maloney)
More or less what I've been talking about with my family. Gotten my parents at least to finally come around. They're looking buy a little bit each month with me in charge of finding them the best deals. Feels good man.

>>54763858
No but I've had dreams where I find fistfuls of gold or silver coins randomly stashed in my house that someone placed and forgot about.

>>54765476
I used to have dreams my driveway was just covered in coins.

you're obsessed bro. Time to get a woman and/or a hobby. I took up metal detecting. Now I dream about my driveway being full of buried coins.

You lads have helped me go from nothing to a substantial stack in just under 2 years

>>54765113
Praying for you Brother <3

When do you guys expect aluminum to correct to the price that existed while Napoleon was alive? Seems like a no brainer

>>54765541
That’ll make a good estate sale your kids can sell for a couple bud lights and a smoke, Anon.

>>54765113
Godspeed, fren. The future is brighter than you could possibly imagine.

>>54765541
I'm glad you're stacking, but those are rookie weights. Get those numbers up!

>>54763627
Premiums on copper rounds are way too high, but JMBULLION sells copper pennies with a premium similar to sovereign silver

It's sooo damn satisfying to stack knowing how much it causes these worthless shills to screech.

Keep squirming and kvetching you disgusting rat faced kikes

>>54763755
You need to teach them the importance of it and get them stacking on their own
Otherwise they will just liquidate the entire treasure for below melt the moment you die and it will have all been for nothing

If they won't listen, bury your treasure in the middle of the woods somewhere and let someone stumble upon it hundreds of years from now

>>54765647
For the last several threads pic related is how I've been perceiving the shills.

>>54765500
Already have a woman. And kids. And I still still have dreams of coins.

>>54765632
Bro i'm a lowly asbestos worker, I'll have 20lbs of silver shortly

>>54765647
go get em, tiger
make em seethe

Nickels are the next junk silver.

>>54765693
>asbestos worker

Remediation or do you mine or manufacture things with it? I've had some asbestos mineral specimens and the stuff is bizarre.

MINT ANON WHERE IS MY CRUSADER FROG COIN?! I DEMAND ANSWERS! I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!

>>54765721
>pic

>>54765113
Sure thing fren.

>>54764052
I ain't black, but you're still my brotha from anotha motha. Keep on stacking!

TND, I do not want niggers to be stacking silver. Other races are welcome tho.

>>54765805
It's only niggers stacking silver. Gold gatekeeps you people out at least

>>54763755
>>54765668
Make sure to include a quote or ebook in your buried treasure to help them make sense of things.

>>54765541
Congrats. Hard to see some of the rounds or coins from the picture. Looks like you have some scottsdale reserve rounds?

>>54765099
Crabbing at $25 still

Silver stackers all failed the IQ test

>>54763805
Kerrygold is the shit, enjoy anon

Silver is literally the worst investment you can make. Industry experts call it the only guaranteed loser. You are guaranteed to lose and you are guaranteed to be a loser

>>54766011
This
>So inflationary people don't even bother to mine for it, it just comes along with other mining operations for free
>Premiums
>Lack of liquidity
>Not dense enough to actually stack more than a thousand ozt worth, insuring it will always be the realm of poorfags
You can just smell the unwashed masses in this thread who think they are going to get rich buying 1oz coins for $30 each

>>54766066
>unwashed masses

Literally and figuratively. A better investment would be a bar of soap. Better than flushing your money down the toilet on garbage rocks

These kikes are so fucking pissed the goyim are stacking silver lmfao

>54766066
>The price is kept artificially down for several reasons.
>Premiums are the cost plebs pay to own metal since the minimum amount purchasable at spot is 5,000 ounces.
>Silver is extremely liquid. It's cold, hard, cash.
>1k ounces of silver fits in a couple of shoeboxes.

>>54765720
Abatement work, awful work but times are hard for a retard without a drivers license

54766244
54766197
>it's smart to pay huge premiums to your enemies

These idiots love to lose money it's the one thing in life they are good at besides being poor

>>54766197
I watched this movie yesterday called, "Nothing Lasts Forever." Solid 5/7. Basically the perfect documentary. It was about the diamond industry. They don't sell you a diamond, they sell you the idea of a diamond. They can't do that with silver or gold because they are elements. Don't get me wrong they try with shit like SLV. Picrel is probably worth more than your average diamond, which is just carbon pressed into a pretty crystal.

>>54766244
>So mad that she didn't directly reply to my post
>JPMorgan is the reason my silver hasn't mooned!
>Posted pic about how not mad she is
Lol. 800,000,000 ozt mined every year. Literally a higher inflation rate than USD if official figures are to be believed

I made 8k off options today and I feel nothing, after the initial hype I don’t care or feel much of anything.

>>54766325
Bought 1,275 shares of silj so hopefully that works out and already have 500 ounces of physical

>>54766334
Good job on your huge losses

>>54763627
if you're looking for an actual stamped bar, the best deal I've found so far are 10-lb and 5-lb rounded bars from copperheadbullion: $12/lb all avdp.

>>54765795
how much for a normal, pure, young virgin wife? asking for a friend who has a stack of 10oz bars in his closet

>>54766364
No, the best copper deal right now is copper pennies. JM bullion is selling 5,000 pennies for $174.99 which is $5.37 per pound. And thats before you consider the implied premium that comes with buying government coinage

>>54766412
Lmao an incel bragging about having $100 of junkmetal in his closet that he overpaid for. That's the demographic of losers who fall for the silverscam. Poor incel scam victim.

How should one apportion their silver:funko pops stack?

>>54763697
where do you get those?

>>54766474
The Funko pops will be valuable again for a brief period when millennials are in their late 40s and 50s. If you miss that 15 year window though it's over and they will be worthless again. Whereas silver will be relatively stable, but also there are millions of tons of silver being mined every year so you are guaranteed to lose to inflation

>>54766450
I specifically stated
>>54766364
>an actual stamped bar

>>54766474
100% Silver:0% søyboy garbage.

>>54766499
>It needs to be a stamped square! I wasn't talking about stamped circles!
Are you for real friend

>>54766509
What is wrong with you?

>>54766513
I pointed out that you can get a superior form of copper for less money. Simple as.

Is there any way to buy allocated physical copper metal in a warehouse or something? My house is full of silver, no room for 1000 kg of copper

>>54766469
why can't we all just be frens, anon?

>>54766523
No shit. Like no-one knows how to do that.
Don't understand your "are you for real" question. I offered Anon an alternative to shitty 95% fragments.

>>54766567
Because he has an agenda

>>54766496
>The Funko pops will be valuable again

Again? Lmao were they ever valuable? Lmao. I guess the real question is, when we have "the collapse" and "the hyperventilation " will funkopops be the new currency? Or should I continue stacking cheeto bags and garbage rocks.

Cheeto bags unlike garbage rocks are quite useful since you can put your worthless rocks in the bag and throw them in a landfill

>>54766584
You're mentally ill

>>54766543
Real paper copper is the only way to make a profit on the commodity which is why no one here would ever buy it. Pmg is about guaranteed losses

>>54766599
UR the guy who is bragging about losing thousands of $ on a silver scam

>>54766543
Probably not. It's too cheap, too common, almost exclusively industrial, and as you point out, very few individuals have the room to spare to stack an amount that would make a difference to a portfolio of anyone who would have the resources and that kind of interest.
You can buy ingots in vast quantities from any number of vendors.

>>54766609
/pmg/ is about having fun with other lovers of precious metals, friend. diversifying into PM when you currently have none is a commendable financial decision. great job dissuading people.

>>54766567
Because of people like this
>>54766450
>>54766412
>>54766291
>>54766244
>>54766197
>>54765805
>>54765714
>>54765675
>>54765627
>>54765541
Who treat an investment thread into a secret gay club where they all celebrate losing money on worthless trinkets and viciously attack anyone who discusses the pros and cons of buying the (obvious scam) called silver

>>54766646
>Precious metals

Like copper, nickel and silver???

Thanks for the giggle chum

You can tell the kike shill is extremely bored and resentful of being given this shit assignment lol

Imagine How low on the shill totem pole do you have to be to pull the "4chan FUD" shift lmaooooo

>>54766665
kek
mfw i'm in both camps

>>54766679
nickel seems a bit dumb, and physical copper is too bulky to hold any meaningful value, so you're right on remote secure storage of copper. the current value of silver makes it convenient for trading post-apocalypse-recovery or early pre-apocalypse, were one to occur. a blend of gold and silver is optimal IMO. leaning towards more gold as your funds allow.

>>54766567
Very nice Asahi and Kinebars

>>54766755
ty fren

>>54766634
Physical copper isnt meant to be stacked in mass quality. Its a poorfag metal used to make poorfag trades, like an even worse version of silver. However it's still going to do a 2x minimum in the next few years so I recommend picking up some pennies
>>54766575
Divisibility is an asset not a liability. The only benefit of buying bigger bars is the lower premium and for copper it's not even true. Pennies are the optimal physical copper investment

>>54766851
>However it's still going to do a 2x minimum in the next few years so I recommend picking up some pennies

A poor retard hoarding pennies is sure they will double. He could make big money buying copper futures clicking a few buttons but instead he's going to spend months and hundreds of $ driving to banks to buy and sift thru rolls of pennies to acquire 2 pounds of copper that he can't sell for more than 1 penny. That's the same type of retard who stacks silver shitcoins and both are here giving advice.

>>54766851
>dont get it in mass
>get it in like half of the dont get it in mass amount
Copper pennies for spendies
Nickels for hopeul deflation
Silver for radical inflation
Gold concentrated wealth
Lead for vitamin and dispensers
Deans for the leanmaxxx
Beans to gas judsens
Credit for internet liquidity
Debtmaxxx for cash assets
Stonks and internet money for gambling.
When copper hits a higher point would it return to the 100 pennies to a silver dollar?
3.11 gramsx100
311 grams of copper for 31.1 grams of silver?
>inb4 a lot more is mined
The currency still was debased away, based anon calculatored that a bigmac coin was about 2.45 coppers or about 112 zincies. Im stacking all metals to keep my portfolio diversified, however my main goal is the silver. Its the most shorted one by and far and the jewish paper scam is ending

>>54766906
>oy vey shallom fellow wise investor would you like to buy some paper commodities
This is unironically how it happens... they keep printing out slips promising to everyone, feeding the demand to drive the price downward through artificial abundance.

>>54766851
I agree. 95% copper pennies are the cheapest/best way to stack copper if you pick them out of your change.

>>54766244
Jp morgan has a bunch of rocks instead of nickels, hence the term coined by shills,
>rocks
They have rocks
>metal
We have metal
Artificial abundance through paper commodities, rigging of supply markets, all to drive the price down so they csn sweep up the low price tk fulfill their shorting contracts

>>54766665
Buy pbr petrobrasil eccentricexxcellent dividends. Youre welcome

>>54766926
Also if you wanna rid of the zinc coins to cash out, find a credit union that allows you to deposit all 100% of coin funds into your account. Never hse coinstar, the dudes that own it wear these funny little hats and their rabbis perform oral circumcisions. Get rid of your dimes too, trade'm for nickels

>>54766851
>>54766926
If you want to do copper, do it right. Bu a ton for $0.75/lb in quantity one ton. That'll be a cube about two feet on a side. Buy (or make!) a furnace and melt into bars that sell on ebay for $20/lb.
Alternatively, a Cu scrap anon says go around to places that accumulate Cu scrap and sell it to recyclers, and offer to buy it off them and take it away for a little more than they get from the recyclers.
*That's* how you make money off copper, not this penny-ante 'pick the coins' little boi playtime.
Grow up, kids.

Just now starting on my and the missus' stacks today, ordered an ounce of silver and two ounces of copper from hero bullion. Would've started with more, but had to make a mortgage payment this week and get my car's alternator replaced. Anyone buy from them before? How long do they usually take to ship?

>>54766938
You have worthless garbage rocks you lost money on

>>54767002
Wtf, how can you get copper for under a dollar a pound if the spot price is $3/Lb???
>>54767057
I've been waiting for like a whole fucking week and they still haven't shipped my first order with them yet

>>54767057
Congrats on making your first of many bad investments on junkmetal

>>54763627
Fpbp

>>54767083
The absolute desperation to get your hands on your shiny trinkets is a good indicator you fell for a scam

>>54766665
I'm pretty sure you're just a big fucking faggot kike and that's why you can't be happy

>>54767057
Shipping is delayed with most dealers because of increased demand. Hero is a reputable low premium dealer. Does your state require you pay tax on online bullion purchases?

>>54767057
Congrats on getting started, better late than never lad. Just start off with basic rounds of silver if it’s all you can afford, buffalos are usually the cheapest. You pay less premium if you can save up and get more, such as 10 oz bars. And eventually you’ll move up to getting your first oz of gold. You’ve started an addiction

>>54767083
Pic related.
$1,500 / ( min. 1 ton = 2,200 lbs avdp) = $0.75/lb. It's apparently cheaper to buy even bigger qtys.
Google: buy copper wholesale. It's scrap.
I have no idea how it sells for that. But if true, one minimum order would pay for a furnace, crucible, mold, a Sigma tester (for a small blob sample from a batch - not a whole bar), and still leave you with maybe $20k if sold on ebay.
Still think spending time picking pennies is a good idea (which, BTW, are protected by US law from being melted for metal content, even though I'm sure being a good citizen is considered akin to a cuck)?

>>54767094
The "I'm an extremely poor nazi larper but dumb enough to blow what little I have on meme coins" starter pack

>>54767083
P.S. spot is much closer to $4/lb.

Good evening /pmg/. Do we have two robros now or am I miss reading this thread and the last one?

>>54767002
Sure, if I wanted to do that, I could, but pinching a penny or dime out of circulation is almost effortless. The furnace...It's not a bad idea though. I'm planning on building a small metals workshop in my backyard this summer. I've got a ton of aluminum cans saved to practice with.

>>54767175
>almost effortless
You get what you pay for.
No effort, no profit.

>>54767113
>increased demand.

Lmao you tards believe whatever the scammers tell you

Lmao increased demand toppers of keys is that why you pay 90% over spot?

>>54767158
You could probably get entire towns of rednecks hooked on a copper standard if you played your cards right

>>54767158
Yes it's cheaper to buy scrap copper than pennies but don't expect scam victims to understand they are permanently retarded but know they are sooperdooper le smart ,

>>54767158
Yeah but what is this really, ali baba? That price is too good to be true and you'll end up with fake copper

>>54763858
No but last night I had a dream that I ate Hitomi Tanaka's ass and then when I woke up I was sad.

>>54767230
Why would anyone listen to a broke loser who literally brags about sorting thru pennies?

>>54767083
Well, good thing I'm a patient man.
>>54767113
Beyond the usual sales tax? Didn't look like it unless it was comically low (gods bless Arkansas)
>>54767122
Guess i better get/make one hell of a treasure chest then.

>>54767248
Okay so you admit you're not sure it's actually feasible to buy a ton of copper for under a dollar a pound?

>>54767246
It's really not a shock that someone addicted to losing money so someday a girl will like him is also addicted to masturbating

>>54767230
I have no intention of committing to a project such as I'm suggesting. I don't have the room, resources, knowledge, or health to do it. If you're seriously interested, do the research yourself and don't take the word of some anonymous smart-alack like me. It looks like it could be profitable, even at $12/lb as a retailer like I originally suggested.
>>54766364

>>54763444 (YOU)
>>54763544 (YOU)
>>54763579
Kek was very generous with the digits tonight.
He must favor my buffalo. I've never gotten digits like that before. 4 ounces of gold in my stack by end of year confirmed?
>>54764025
Buffalos are the only acceptable non pre 33 gold to buy! (ignore my other golds)
>>54767169
Would a nazi have TWO Obama coins?

>>54767281
I'm da coomer stacker babey!

>>54766609
False, I scavenge buildings, worksites, and even inhabited houses for copper and I store them in 7 shipping containers like picrel (my newest one). When the collapse comes, you're gonna be fucking sorry buddy. You know who isnt gonna be sorry? me. All this copper has to be at least worth a thousand dollars. That's enough for a plane ticket somewhere and I'll still have money left over for meth.

>>54763605
For anyone who buys online do u pay by check or bite the bullet and pay with card?

>>54767280
Sorting thru pennies is the limit of your ability ...stay in your lane

>>54767230
shipping will kill your profits.
also the energy and equipment costs to smelt that much copper.

also a decent chance the copper is stolen.

probably better than pennies though. Pennies aren't even pure copper

>>54767311
Check. I like having the option to pay less and I use it. I wish that was more common in general, I can be patient.

>>54767283
I'm a cityfag so its not feasible for me, but I have sibs you could maybe pull it off

>>54767311
Depends. For some vendors I use a lot and offer it, I use ACH. Others, paper check. On ebay though, the winning bid is the price, and you can usually use a credit card, even ones with cash-back awards. Don't use PayPal for those transactions. Also, make sure you buy enough to get free shipping. That's part of the overhead/premium.

>>54767300
Checked, based scrapper

>>54767315
I don't mind alloys silly boy

>>54767327
>not feasible for me
Fair enough. Oh yeah - me too: in a city, but a house. Maybe there's enough room. I don't even know what a minimal setup would look like. This video is helpful to get an idea though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQDkKA4MLE

>>54767350
Who smelts inside their house tho

>>54767340
alloys don't smelt well. You can get separation of the metals, or in the case of pennies, evaporation of some of the metals. Nothing quite like breathing in a few grams of zinc.

>>54767300
Wow I'm jealous of your worthless pile of $3 of copper you spent 40 hours collecting

>>54767358
>he hates free money

>>54767353
Well... it's surrounded with a yard. Even townhouses have yards, usually fenced.

>>54767311
Always try to pay the highest premium, the most tax, the highest shipping plus 3% credit card charge if you want to be in our gay club you dumb newb

>>54767369
Kek... looks like a bucket of circumcisions.

>>54767370
You'd probably be violating a city ordinance of some sort

>>54767369
You brag about losing money all day every day. That's why you are broke and penniless

>>54767265
looks like arkansas only charges sales tax on copper bullion products so that is why you paid any sales tax. Silver, gold and plat should be tax free

>>54767376
jej
I think I sold those babby penises for $400

I was told they're aerators from an industrial water filter.

>>54767300
In 1893 a bandit troupe hijacked a train en route from Boston to San Jose carrying nothing but German Chocolate. The bandits unloaded the crates onto about ten or so wagons without even checking its contents. The Warren sheriffs followed a ginger smeared chocolate road to their hideaway under a bridge. Before the bandits realized what had happened it was too late and were promptly arrested. But not before the ringleader Jacob Schmidt recognized his family's famed chocolate. He had talked to his cousin just days prior about his family's chocolate being presented in a fair. He probably felt really stupid and as they were caught he took a chomp out of one of the open chocolate boxes from the crate and chipped a tooth on some hardened candied ginger. I guess the moral of the story is you can't anticipate your life but you can sure as hell make better decisions than Schmidt. And also who the hell puts ginger in chocolate like that anyway?

>>54767379
Quite possibly. Yet another reason not to. It's also a highly regulated city, so even more likely. Glad I'm not into it.

>>54767382
>Penniless
He clearly has copper anon wym

>>54767002
Dangol i hate niggers and jews so much

>>54767389
>I was told they're aerators
Oh yeah - you made me notice the little holes.
Congrats!

>>54767382
If you paid attention you'd recognize the same dark oak flooring from my million dollar house.

>>54767371
Ffs I was just asking. I used a check to buy my first oz of gold don't be such an ass

Crypto must be sentient. The beep boops sure are frightened about being worthless some day soon when poorfags will mow your lawn and let you fuck their wife for a an old quarter.

>>54767404
Ah yes the millionaire who spends his life stealing copper from crack dens

>>54767427
Gee you scam victims sure are cranky. A classic case of Stockholm syndrome . Look kid if you want to buy millenial rocks and hang out here asking dumb questions you need to develop a thick skin because smart people will mock your stupid behavior

>>54767430
The "I paid $300 for $20 of silver and I'm so proud I post a picture every thread" starter pack

>>54767400
Just get pennies https://www.jmbullion.com/95-copper-lincoln-memorial-pennies-50-fv/

>>54767436
>Ah yes the millionaire who spends his life stealing copper from crack dens
do crackheads have industrial water treatment plants?

The brass I posted wasn't stolen, in fact I got paid several hundred dollars to haul it off and sell it. Businesses will not only give it to you to recycle, but even pay you to take it.

>>54767468
>*BEEP BOOP* intensifies

>>54767486
>I'm a millionaire garbageman

Do you post these larps between stops hopping on and off the back of the truck?

>>54767507
>I'm a millionaire garbageman
very close. One of my businesses is a recycling company.

>>54767430
This is what they don't realize. Crypto has been tidally locked not only to markets but fiat 'currency' as a whole. These kikes predicting 100 dollar silver in 2030 make me laugh, audibly. Silver is going to be worth an immeasurable amount of fiat, unconditionally, and cannot even be evaluated numerically. The astronomical levels of wealth even holding ten ounces of silver will bring cannot be understated.

Truly, cryptofags are missing the next boat to paradise. With AI replacing tech, CBDC which will utterly phase out crypto with limits, the sheer amount of silver being bought by banks, central governments all around the world etc... it will be an immense and glorious fligh to the heavens. Every silver holder will run to safeguard their stacks. Every man, woman and child will know of the true VALUE of silver. It will halt all forms of previously normalized logic. Dead in their tracks even the government which will fail in their CBDC endeavors will be forced to revalue the price of Silver and Gold to be so high that they can feel assured when they rollback a metal backed dollar.

We are looking at history unfold and even if this decade will be tumultuous, we will be victorious! Listen not to the Bergs and Steins in this thread. Keep stacking! Stack like you never stacked before! This is your one opportunity, to achieve your earthly wants and desires. By 2025 your hearts will want for nothing and by 2030 you will wear crowns of diamond. Your ancestors will live in wealth for the bext one thousand years.

This is it. This is why we stack.

>>54767494
That's a bot. Here's my "I paid $80 for $3 of silver and I am proud so I post a picture every thread" starter pack. Feels good holding something this old and clean in my hands. It could have circulated into Jesus' hands.

>>54767521
>*Mines 10% of the existing silver supply's worth of silver every year, ruining your inflation hedge*
Nothing personnel kid, the silver is just a biproduct of the good stuff

>>54767538
nah, that's a UG miner. Most of the new silver comes from OP gold and copper mines.

Lurk /cmmg/ moar

>>54767521
maybe sooner - a lot of panic going on
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/04/26/the-world-economic-forum-says-it-will-accelerate-implementation-of-globalist-agenda-2030/
>The report’s findings will inevitably lay the foundations for the international deliberations. “This year’s report,” insists the WEF, “is especially crucial as we’re nearing the halfway point of Agenda 2030.”

>>54767521
Yes, but wait for the next dip. Prices are shit this week.

>>54765263
>>54765095
>>54764911
I boughted, do with this information what you will

Peace dollars are so addicting for some reason. It's not even about the money with them, I just love them. 5 more on the way.

>>54767516
You recycle real paper $ into worthless millenial rocks

>>54767662
>paper dollars
nobody uses cash anymore except crackheads and poor people

which are you?

>>54767532
The " I bought a $10 gift shop replica coin for $1000 so I can brag about it to people who sort thru pennies to find pennies" starter pack

>>54767655
>It's not even about the money

This addict knows he's overpaying, it's a cry for help. Cmon guys remind him that we love to lose money it's what we live for

>>54767384
Good to know, because i plan to stack a lot more silver than copper untill i can melt my own copper bars. I'm guessing this also applies to old foreign coins, or would those count as collectables and be taxed differently?

>>54767655
what did you pay and where did you get them from? I think I would be more addicted to morgans and peace dollars if I didn't have a state tax ass fucking every bullion purchase I make on ebay, or if my local coin jew was more generous with his prices.

>>54767781
Not sure. This website might be helpful.
https://www.jmbullion.com/tax/arkansas/

>>54767781
Looks like I may have been wrong. Sorry, need sleep

>>54767805
Thanks mate. My shift starts in a bit, so I'll check it out when i can catch a break. It's friday though, should be a slow day.
>>54767805
No worries, happens to the best of us. Now get some sleep, /pmg/ will be waiting for you when you wake up.

>>54767655
checked, It's a better dollar design than the Morgan. Wish I could afford to stack them, but I like too many other designs to focus on just one. I get the desire for more though. After I got my first denarius, I got 4 more. I need to refocus on stacking weight though. My next purchase is back to kilos of silver.

>>54767842
Back to your wagie cage so you can afford more worthless shitcoins

>>54767867
Looks like something some guy made between pizzas working the late shift at dominos

>>54766011
>>54766066
Watching this one guy franticly swapping VPN's while having a conversation with himself is very entertaining. I don't know which government agency you work for fren, but tell them that I say they should be paying you a lot more per post. You're a true patriot o7

>>54764052
Give the stolen goods back Tyrone

>>54763605
is there anything wrong with chards best value, i assume the minty ones are all recent?

>>54767299
>>54767288
I got dubs on these too!
Hell yeah!

>>54767246
Based. She has big boobs. I approve

For fellow germans. 5 DM 625 silver junk for exactly 5€ atm, slightly below spot

https://www.mp-edelmetalle.de/artikel/silber/5156/silber-dagumlauf-5-dm-silbermuenze-(differenzbesteuert)-(1951-1978)-(de)

>>54764052
I love these tier charts, very based, blacfren.

>>54768305
Everyone who buys silver is incel tier, after all sivertards and incels all brag nonstop about losing

The silver stacker, the hoarder of worthless millenial rocks, is a lowly creature, no more powerful than an amoeba, oppressed by the elite, held down by the man, but despite being powerless, they/them feel the need to resist, to fight back against their masters, to fight the bondage. Knowing this instinct the master devised one simple trick. Convince the serfs to happily give their owner all their resources in exchange for shiny rocks with the (laughable) belief these magic beans will destroy the system, will set them free, that they will emerge from the wagie cage winners for once in their miserable lives.

Found the folllowing a decent read.
Tldr: texas and south american law enforcement talk about how gold has gone up so much the past couple years that some mining operations are under reporting how much they produce to keep some for themselves and the cartel are opening thier own mining operations to smuggle gold into the US to sell for profit. https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/countries-participate-in-texas-round-table-on-gold-smuggling

>>54768638
Fake news , gold hasn't even kept up with inflation

>>54768648
Hey there robobro, I missed out on a few threads since I've been visiting family on my days off. I feel like we haven't talked in ages, I've missed you. Side not for any anons living in Mississippi, I believe on June 1st a new law comes into effect that will get rid of sales tax on gold and silver.

I lied its July 1st it takes effect.
https://mises.org/power-market/mississippi-legislature-votes-overwhelmingly-end-sales-taxes-gold-and-silver

>>54767953
>orderable
Don't, I was told their orderable sovereigns have a backlog of several months.

I have more real wealth in an old ammo box sitting in my closet then likely 98% of my neighborhood, whose "wealth" consists of numbers on a computer screen

>>54768759
yeah just phoned them they say 4 to 6 months

Hahaha ha silver stacklets before in commiefornia.......plus premiums plus taxes plus jizya

Let's check on New York

Hey good news guise, if you pay a 40% premium (which you happily due ) no sales tax, lmao

Oops you only bought $500 of garbage rocks with a 70% premium? Lmao you pay sales tax. Lmao yall love taxes and fees and premiums so this is great news

finna goto the pm shop was gonna get like 5 sovs wondering if i should get a britannia and a sov instead. thoughts?

>>54767918
>Anyone who disagrees with me is a glownigger jew
Okay schizo. Have you considered that maybe healthy skepticism is a good thing? Channers always give away that they are in a cult when they write responses like this.

>>54768854
Lmao , pay now and delivery is.........NEVER!

Don't worry it's worthless garbage anyway

>>54768910
Yes , buy silver, buy more silver.....lose it all, kick your $ into the bin for the win

>>54768924
im buying gold retard

>>54768910
You should kys for being british

Buy doll hairs please my bank can print them out and short selling is scary now you won’t sell wtf guys you want to eat my doggert$ green rectangles don’t you wtf?!!

>>54768943
Short selling is scary ngl
Every time I see some dumbass here or a reddit screenshot about someone who ruined their lives trading it's almost always from leverage or shorting

>>54768515
anyone calling someone an incel on 4chan is clearly a paid agent

>>54769103
t. incel

>>54764003
St Gaudens with the motto to denounce the Talmud

>>54769112
mfw the paid shill passed the baton to his coworker

the shills doth protest too much

>>54768928
It's a bot, don't reply to it.

54769150
You are a paid shill for Peter schiff so no (you) for you. Anyway don't you feel bad for scamming retards on boomer rocks

So many shills pushing the silver scam and getting triggered by people laughing at them I'm gonna sell another 900 ounces

>>54769150
>>54769284
>You can't just make fun of me for buying a metal with 10% supply inflation as an inflation fighting measure!!! You shill!!!!!

>>54769553
Damn silver is way overvalued according to that chart

>>54769553
What do the ratios tell us?

>>54769650
Remember how everything soared yesterday except silver, which crashed? Yeah that's gonna keep happening. And those huge premiums? Gone! Lmao, yeah that guy was right it wasn't smart to pay $78 for $20 of silver

>>54764021
nice. I appreciate a good, autistic, single type stack.

>>54769533
>silver scam
>I'm gonna sell 900 oz
:thinking::thinking::thinking::thinking:
my guy is either lying, or upset that he bought tens of times what the average poster in this thread has of what he perceives to be an underperforming asset.
the annoyance i felt against you is now pity :^)
how's it feel to get "scammed" at 900 oz by your own admission lmao

>>54765794
I hate how Christianity is all about fear and guilt tripping. It's a perversion and inversion of everything Zoroastrianism is about. I want to love god, not fear him neurotically.

>>54769822
He has 44 posts. It's like 1/5th of all the replies in this thread. Imagine wasting all that time here. Governments print money to extract valuable resources out of the Earth to hoard it for themselves. Gold is still collected by Central banks. Silver has way more usecases than gold. It's the best conductor. Gold is just more durable but way more expensive. Most of it is either worn as jewellery or hoarded by central banks. You don't buy PMGs to make gains but to preserve your purchasing power as governments continue to print useless notes in exchange for resources.

went to the pm shop got a britannia, krug and 2 sovs

>44 pbtid

>>54770047
Doll posting trannyfag neet who lives in parents basement. Spend your Mcjob money on a few shit bong coins and one decent one. Absolute trannyfag /toy/ poster.

>>54770096
not a tranny and i got a good job cope and seethe

>>54763605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ1QK4yjzF0

Check out my stack

>>54770383
damn very nice anon

>>54770383
Got me jelly. Very nice, you should be proud.

>>54770383
Stack of losses

>>54770010
Wah wah wah silver is the most precious thing I n the world wah wah wah why do I keep losing money I. So smart I should be a winner wah wah wah

>>54770477
You're like that Randall kid from Recess. A little bitch that no one likes.

>>54770383
wow. i kneel. u a bong ? why so many queen coins?

>>54770477
>>54770495
"dont buy silver its a dumb investment"
>hey check out my gold
"stack of losses"
yeah i'm thinking it's kiloanon. how's that tungsten holding out for you?

>>54770498
>>54770527
Being a pain and getting (You)s is his goal.
You've been played.
Learn 2 filter

>>54770383
>25oz of gold
Damn, you're definitely going to make it.

>>54770544
>filter
Censorship is for pussies, cucks, faggots and trannies.

>>54770562
Get mad and be part of the problem.

>>54770544
>>54770584
i'm having fun, idk about you :^)

>>54770498
Wah wah wah I pay huge premiums so people I don't know will like me wah wah wah

>>54770527
Fact is everyone here loses money and ur all waiting for muh collapse.

>only pays for things in PMs
>torches huge stacks of USD

John Wick is the movie icon of /pmg/, prove me wrong

>>54770783
Yeah a guy that loses everything is pmg

>>54763627
You can get 35 pounds of copper pennies on ebay for $100+S&H. I bought several orders of it just to have incase of shtf. Sort of a long-term savings storage that I can have just incase.

>>54770354
Sounds like another ecoin, plus you get a brass round as physical proof that someone has bought into this. The notions that it's based on labor and/or that you sign up to be a town 'member' are slight-of-hand distractions.
Nice T-shirt though.

NEXT ONE UP
>>54770941
>>54770941
>>54770941

>>54768290
Kind of meh. Those coins are regularly available under spot. I think the newer 10€ coins for 11-12€ are more interesting because they are at least in theory spendable as is, which is cool if you want to get silver into circulation. It's not "free", but it gets silver into the hands of plebs. The design is pretty nice, too.

>>54770010
Hi fren,

It would be helpful to have the extrema noted on these graphs as well.

>>54771874
I'd also like to see a 4th graph: the car vs Dow Jones.

>>54770383