/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54736732
A Honda civic is 60k now…

>>54736764
Lol dealers mark up cause they know some idiot will buy it

>>54736732

You will enjoy the F150
You will enjoy the shitbox corolla. < YOU ARE HERE
You will enjoy the smart car.
You will enjoy the car club.
You will enjoy the electric bike.
You will enjoy the bike.
You will enjoy walking.

>>54736764
>type R
315hp anon

>>54736764
Type R is the “racer” ricer version. Spics prefer them over dodge niggerchargers. They always sell for over MSRP.

>>54736831
>315hp anon
i really do not see the appeal of this car from a value standpoint, it's not that powerful and is a honda at the end of the day, rather just get a based lotus for the same price

>>54736732
These are on the lot near me for $24k, but nice LARPing.

Also it's a Corolla so it's going to last 300k+ miles without tan issue. Stop being poor.

>>54736882
It's just a faster wrx STi, built for people that wanna rally larp

>>54736904
>It's just a faster wrx STi
those were like 39k i thought, almost half the price lol and subaru is a bit better looking. still pretty gay ngl

>>54736882
Fr, you could buy a used Porsche or Audi for that price

>>54736732
Honestly buying a used vehicle can be just as difficult because you have to be sure that the previous owner(s) didn’t fuck anything up or miss maintenance. Make sure the vehicle was owned by a white boomer male or a gen x redneck. Don’t buy a used vehicle from a woman, nigger, millenial, zoomer, spic, asian, etc.

>>54736732
Hyandai i30 gang. Best car

>>54736732
cars are a gay waste of money
you have to worry about people scratching them, stealing them, cutting off your catalytic converter, stealing your tires, rocks to the windshield, etc.
Just get a beat up old Toyota 4Runner with 200k+

buy classics. Cars stop depreciating after 10 years. Some go up in value. Get 10 friends to go in on a Lambo.

>>54736882
as far as looks go its like the car a child might choose if you lined up some hotwheels for them. i put many evos into this category too.

like the kind of people that rewatch fast and furious 1 in their mid 30s and still think its a good movie.

>>54736999
its not hard at all. if you test drive a used toyota or nissan you're instantly gonna know if its gonna last another 10 years.

issues with yotas or nissans stick out like a sore thumb. all you have to do is test drive.

>>54737803
Test driving doesn’t tell you shit. Women will go 2 years without an oil change while the spics, nigs, and zoomers will redline and try to race around in anything

>>54736732
People bend over backwards for any Toyota or Lexus because the reliability pays you 10 years in the future by not having to take it in for constant maintenance out of warranty, most modern American and European cars aren't built to go past 100k miles without rounds of critical failures or parts wearing prematurely.

>>54737832
ummm yeah thats why you test drive it. if its had a woman driver or been thrashed you can tell. if you aren't a retard.

>>54737951
what about honda?

>>54736820
You will enjoy the F150 < SOLD MY CAR FOR BTC IN DEC 2018
You will enjoy the shitbox corolla.
You will enjoy the smart car.
You will enjoy the car club.
You will enjoy the electric bike.
You will enjoy the bike.
You will enjoy walking.

Car is the most retarded thing to over spend on if you arent rich, just get a basic japanese car that just works why normies so stupid

You thought "You will own nothing and be happy" was just a meme?
Only the very wealthy will have vehicles in the future.

>>54736998
and enjoy streaming YouTube videos from the back seat as most of the audi series are holoride-ready
>>54737832
>Women will go 2 years without an oil change
they only have delight in saving monie.

>>54739505
Kia was GOAT recently up until they fucked up the logo

>>54736732
Yes.

Here's the less conspiratorial thing:
>There's nothing new to sell to economy car buyers that anyone really gives a shit about.
That's the biggest thing no one really wants to talk about. If you have a 10 year old car, there's nothing critical I can offer you, besides a new car with a warranty. And, as warranties have gotten longer and longer, cars for more and more reliable anyways, so a new or recent car can be expected to go 200k+ miles with minimal issues. So then the USED car market is cannibalizing the new car market, especially the economy market. The "new" feature I can offer you on a $20k Toyota shitter is available on a used $15k Lexus.

10,20,30 years ago I could tell an economy buyer looking at a new car:
>Holy shit it's got more than a lawnmower engine now so you can get up hills! Over 70 mph top speed!!!
>It gets more than 10 mpg!!!
>Airbags!
>Side airbags!
>Power steering! Power windows!
>Power locks! Look you have a dongle to lock it as you walk away!
>Push button ignition!
>More spacious!
>Look it's a small SUV with a fuel economy that's still pretty good!
>Aux hookup! Bluetooth!
>Wow it's got a screen! GPS!

Now there's basically nothing new for the basic car buyer. Instead they're just loading up all sorts of extra luxurious bullshit even in entry models, which is making the price higher. So if you can't sell anyone a $20k car then you just make $30k,$40k cars.

>>54739505
oh you so stoopid, why you so stupid, stupid lady.
>buy wapanese
kek

my car costs $2.50

>>54736764
>Preowned
What the fuck

>>54736831
>>54736868

It's objectively a shit car. You want handling in corners? Buy a miata.
The type R is slow as fuck. Genuinely embarrassing.

>>54736820
I am already at the walking stage. Fuck driving in traffic, fuck needing a DD, fuck car payments, and fuck unsurence payments

>>54741093
The healthy choice

Get a used (50k miles) Japanese shitbox that you can buy in cash or pay off after a year, drive it past 300k miles, ideally you have a job that you can either wfh, hybrid, train to work, bike to work. Use the excess savings to invest. Once you reach seven figures then get yourself a car that’s actually nice but until then make no mistake you are poor and don’t deserve it. Thinking of buying a new car? Calculate your hourly wage AFTER tax and other expenses, then divide cost of new car by that amount, that is how much more you’ll need to work just for that car. That’s the time in your life you are trading away for a fucking vehicle.

Don’t do a long commute - gas, maintenance, and it’s soul crushing

Don’t justify a new car because of having kids, “safety features”, or any of that nonsense

Don’t get a truck because “you need it for hauling”, unless that is your literal profession it is financially stupid. I woodwork for fun and build furniture, it’s cheaper to rent a delivery vehicle from Home Depot for my wood a few times a year than pay for an F150

Cars are THE single thing that will hurt your wealth building , along with divorce.

>>54741093
I'm also at the walking (plus transit) stage. I do enjoy driving from time to time, but that's more so for pleasure than sitting in traffic every day.

I live right off a really nice train line without crazies so it's pretty enjoyable to take the train or bus everywhere. I still have a car at home but it's in storage and I'll only take it out when home.

My fiancee has a shitbox civic that she takes to work daily so once we're married we'll probably just share a newer used car since we can walk to everything we need on a daily basis:
>gym
>grocery store
>train
etc. Sad most people in america, even the ones that live in cities, don't have that really convenient option

>>54740716
in about a dozen words you've effectively revealed your devastatingly low IQ. impressive.

>>54737279
>Get 10 friends to go in on a Lambo.

>>54736732
He look like fish

>>54741158
illinois chads run biz

>>54740333
there are no used lexus at 15k that have radar assisted cruise control and lane guidance.

>>54741181
>lexus
>15k

>Wants a luxury car with poverty funds

>>54741132
I took the bike pill a year ago and haven’t looked back since

Commutes used to be mind numbing. Same songs on radio, stuck in traffic, sitting idly contemplating life, etc. biking to work or to run errands / gym you’re always engaged, enjoying the wind in your face, good wake up, etc. fun as fuck to laugh at all the losers stuck bumper to bumper while you cruise by. Bonus points are never have to look or pay for parking, you can post up your bike literally anywhere

It’s been a life changing decision desu

>>54736764
>type R

>>54741181
>fag who "needs" lane guidance
doesnt the LS have that?

>>54741324
>slow honda civic
>good at turning
>60k
>Honda
>civic
>60k

>>54741347
lane guidance is a meme but the radar cruise control is very useful if you use cruise control at all. too lazy to do your research for you on the ls but i know those cars have bottomed out.

>>54737240
>cars a gay
>buy a car
Fuxking retarded nigger

>>54741239
Yeah if the area I lived was warmer I'd consider a bike.
>same songs on the radio
Kek my dad is a local sports talk radio host so I just listen to his show on my commute. He always shouts me out at some point and sometimes I call in

>>54741438
Do I have to explicitly write out “if you must” ? Kill yourself fatass brainlet.

>>54736732
>oil paypigs
I have no car. I have no problems in life. I walk where I need to go, or ride the bus and skip fare. My transit cost is $0. The average person throws $800 a month in the trash on transit.

>>54741587
If you weren't an ESL nigger, then yes

>>54737240
Valid. if you have to use a car, just buy the crappiest shitbox that still runs. otherwise people like me will key your car for funsies. i never key jankers through, only bougboxes. especially teslas because i know the owners will seethe.

>>54741239
bike commuting is legit. i used to just take my bike into my office, fuck locking up in the garage. get that carbonfiber so it's as light as a backpack. nod heads with the baller old C-suite who comes in on a $4000 bike in full lycra. laugh at carniggers sitting in traffic jams.

>>54741500
>Dad is local sports radio host
Comfy and based

>>54741729
I'm whiter than you jewbots

>>54741959
Yeah he's awesome. Always shouts me out when I text him and tell him Im listening.

I have a very vivid memory of 3rd grade anon sitting at a booth at a suburban hooters learning to code while he did a live show

>>54741784
Lmao dude this is it. Road biking is a truly affluent sport, unlike golf which is now just pretend affluent. You earn instant respect/networking while the fat middle managers on their leased entry level Mercedes cars all seethe. CEO of my company and I chat all time about our rides whenever we used to run by each other


Idk if it’s peak cope or not, but when commuting in my shitbox jap car and I get stuck behind nice luxury vehicles I get jelly. But when biking around I feel superior to all of them, hard to explain. Using muscle instead of motor really makes a huge difference

>>54741736
Problem for luxury carcels. Not only is the car more expensive but you need:

- better gas
- more regular maintenance
- will sperg out over any ding or scratch
- will sperg out over any interior spill
- have to wash and clean car much more frequently
- oh and insurance is twice as much

Meanwhile you can door ding my paid off for 10 years jap shitbox and I won’t even notice

>>54737279
>classic cars
get triples. triples are good, that way its safe.

Buy in Europe.
Autoscout24.de

>>54736904
awd vs fwd nigger

>>54736764
Audi A3 Sedan prices $33k how come?

>>54744163
I have that car and I enjoy using my retrofit-holoride VR in the backseat.

>>54736732
Yes.

>>54736820
Unironically this a good thing

>>54736904
Enjoy your front wheels constantly slipping.

>>54746152
get better tires poorfaggot

>>54736820
I made the mistake of moving to suburbia and walking is now unfeasible

Get me out

>>54741181
>radar assisted cruise control and lane guidance.

Nothing an economy car buyer gives a shit about. Same for 0-60 times under 6 seconds, yes it's different, no it's not something people trying to get from point A to B care about.

>>54736732
>>54736764
>POS
Jap sedans are much faster than they used to be, a corolla has 169 hp now. Bitch even the new Prius has 196 hp.

>>54736764
>cpo
>70 miles
Ayy lmao

>>54736820
F150 is like 65k for an xlt. Fully loaded Lariat is 70k and the platinums are pushing 80k. Raptors pushing 100k. F150 ain't your grandaddys truck, its now for millionaires or people who have big write offs on their business