/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54691915
So, what's zucc and the gang going to do now?

>>54691915
>>54691929
we chuds can't stop winning

>>54691929
focus on the shit that makes money like thotstagram and reels

>>54691936
>reels

>>54691936
only simps will outcompete that
zukerjew is done

>>54691915
It was bad timing. They’re all rich, so they couldn’t see that no one has disposable income for some gimmick like this. People are worried about $7 dozen eggs and $5 gallon of gas, not some meme internet thing.

>>54691936
pretty much this. also, when tiktok is banned either instagram or youtube will take over the market in the west.

I still hold 3000 stonks that I bought in November

>>54691915
I have had oculus quest 2 for a few years now and it's a solid porn experience. You can really only use it in like 30 minute increments though then you start to feel dizzy. It's a good product with some interesting use cases but not realistic to spend the same amount of time on as an iphone or home computer or even gaming console. Augmented reality has more growth potential imo

>>54692174
Any good sauces?

>>54692197
Veronica Leal is the most talented VR Porn actress. She embraced the technology and has earned a cult following through this outlet.

>>54691929
>we AI not boys
just rotate to the next hype and be boomer tier delusional. I still dont get why so many people still use that shitty website, what am I missing

>>54691915
falling for the fud

>>54692174
its this tho and people are too retarded to see it
hardcore gamers flatout rejected the headstrap screens because you cant use them for extended periods of time and then facebook thinks they can make normies use them for hours a day lol
and there are still serious people charging money for their stock tips that say ready player one soon, as if all those movies dont clearly demonstrate that even in a faked filming set it just doesnt make sense, you need matrix tier tech for the metaverse to really work

>>54692372
yup

"metaverse" social games are an extremely niche genre that simply doesnt appeal to 99% of gamers. i dont even like wearing headphones, i would never even consider trying it. we're still decades away from even a shred of normie appeal.

i hope some nerds made a ton of money shorting that garbage. anyone who understands gaming should have been able to work out that it literally couldnt succeed in any universe

my experience with vr porn (windows mixed reality on a samsung odyssey+)

>spend the time to download 4k 360 porn
>gaming computer that runs star citizen on max graphics can't run it go back to 180 4k porn, no problem
>computer still can't run it maybe lower fps from 60 to 30 but handbrake crashes
>say fuck it and go with 2k 180 porn, still have to install some drivers and download some apps (half of which don't work) to get it to play
>plug the headset back in because it has no off button and if i leave it plugged in it gets warm
>untangle everything get it situated on my head
>adjust straps, scratch the lenses of my glasses
>move chair our the way, clear spot on floor
>sync controllers and navigate the clumsy menus while constantly going back and forth between mouse and vr controller and looking through googles and lifting up goggles to see computer monitor because you can't just do it all in the goggles
>because its only 2k everything looks pixelated
>can see an untrimmed hair sticking out of the womans nose, very distracting this thing is like an inch long. can't change porns now its too clumsy and would take hours to download a new one
>fap, it's ok
>never bother trying that again

>>54691915
Lmao, they even changed the name of their company kek, absolutely over for Zucc, apparently all his company executives have abandoned the company, and have gone underrground
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/12/technology/meta-layoffs-employees-management.html

Zucc is in a total panic meltdown lmao
https://qz.com/meta-layoffs-2023-jobs-metaverse-ai-1850196575

>>54691915
dude what if we remake second life for bulky vr goggles but we also make every shitty corporate brand an nft also?!

they keep teasing headsets and technology with a wider field of view and some goggles even have that wider field of view but cost thousands of dollars. 90 degrees isn't cutting it, feels like i'm wearing horse blinders, not immersive.

make it smaller, lighter, more comfortable, less burdensome to use, fix the ui so i dont need to go back and forth between desktop and goggles. make it so i can just slip it on and start fapping asap (doesnt even come with a vr video player that works with any of the porn lol get your shit together people are buying this for porn). make it with a fucking on/off button so i dont have to plug it in again every time and can leave it setup (but they want to spy on you even when you're not using it). give it a wider field of view.

when these criteria are met i will look into vr again

You're all retarded, Meta is too big to fail, see you at 250+ next week retards. It's a good thing they're not blowing more money into the metaverse bullshit.

>>54691915
do you think thats air your breathing? or is it air™

>>54693027
also i ruined my glasses on my vr headset so ideally a headset i can wear without glasses

also so many headsets are built for asian faces with small flat noses. what the fuck.

>>54692123
I'm still hoping for Vine 2, I think Amazon still owns it.

>>54691915
Imagine being a billionaire and falling for a scam like "metaverse", real metaverse tech is at least 20 years away.

>>54693029
It's over bro, they no longer have a business plan, Zucc is panicking and taking random decisions, his company is going to be eclipsed into irrelevance - IBM 2.0

also you need a facebook account to use the oculus goggles. and i dont have a facebook account and i dont want one. shouldnt need an account to use a product i spent hundreds of dollars on. maybe i say something bad on facebook and get banned from using my device who knows. no thanks.

watch, apple will come out with a headset that will actually just work and not be a clusterfuck struggle to operate. no real innovation just taking what already exists and making it operate smoothly enough that it feels like something completely new. and years later everyone will credit apple with inventing vr in the same way they credit apple with inventing the smartphone even though they didn't.
then meta can just copy apple and be back in business like google did copying the iphone

>>54693065
The *real* metaverse will be a fantasy land where you can consciously escape too - basically rendered imagination with which you can physically interact.

VR has always been gay and stupid. AR glasses are the next gen 1 iphone, society-changing tech but no company wants to hold the bag like a bunch of phone manufacturers that "almost" had the iphone.

>>54693065
Ol' Zuck was desperate to become the next Jobs or Gates but he let too many yes men get in his ear.

>>54692372
>>54692174
I use a halo strap with an extra couple of battery packs I can hotswap with velcro to the back, I can easily play Pavlov for 2-4 hours with no discomfort, or almost indefinitely if I'm playing something lazier VR port of a pancake game like x-rebirth or subnautica on airlink. Fitness games are exhausting after a while though. VR porn and movies aren't quite as good as you're still restricted to where the camera was, and finding 8k+ resolution vids needed for it to be convincing is a bit tedious.

>>54691915
zuck is retarded

>>54693084
instead of stupid VR glasses where is my modern day google glass? I want a screen I can use while doing everything else is life, that is actually fucking useful

>>54691915
most companies have no actual business model, their products don't matter since all they sell is stock.

at first i assumed zuck did what he did because he saw something in the facebook labs we didn't. some new headset he was about to release that would bring it all together in a first iphone kind of moment. some stunning bit of kit with a wide field of view and all the bells and whistles for a reasonable price. a paradigm shift and anew standard for vr hardware.

but it didn't happen. they released some new goggles but with the same old 90 degree horse blinders fov. basically just minor iterative upgrades that didnt correct the core issues with using vr.

META is going to ATH on this earnings print

>>54693134
this
they're in the business of trannies now, for blackrock money. that's where the real profit lies. it's become a virtue signal economy. now too much money chasing too few goods, inflation.

>>54693134
Most companies no longer have a *new* product, this is true for Google too, they are basically still banking on ad money , they built the tech required for it in early 2000s.

I am a hardcore gamer, I run linux and manually set my ram timings and I've never put on a VR headset. Why did these dumb faggots think facebook users would do it?

>>54693186
Their business model at this point is to integrate their old product into more and more stuff.
This is why Google is currently seething at Samsung for abandoning Google search

>>54691915
BOTTOM SIGNAL.

reminder: one of the reasons vhs won over betamax is it was more friendly to porn

>>54692215
based up close latina bootyhole enjoyer

>>54691915Apparently they're about to unveil Quest 3 or something. 2 was a huge hit apparently.

i should be able to reach over, grab the headset, slip it on, get into porn, in under a minute. it shouldn't take all the preparation in advance and fiddling around in menus and shit that it does. if i get a boner i want that vr porn up and running before it goes soft, when you can pass the boner test then i'll consider your product.

>>54691915
Ahahahahaha I hate that company

>>54691915
cant wait for my quest pro to be hacked when some disgruntled employee leaks code

>>54693029
That what you always say perma bull/laid shill/anon left holding the bag.
>they entering vr
>booolllish!
>they left vr
>boooolllishhh!
>they hired people
>booollish!
>they fired people
>booolllish

>>54691915
>There are rarely any girls in the Hot Girl Summer Rooftop Pool Party, and in Murder Village there is often no one to kill. Even the company’s showcase worlds, such as Questy’s, a virtual arcade featured in a Super Bowl commercial earlier this year, are mostly barren of users.

>According to internal statistics, only 9% of worlds built by creators are ever visited by at least 50 people. Most are never visited at all.

>>54693345
>On a recent night, a female Journal reporter visited one of Horizon’s most popular virtual worlds, the Soapstone Comedy Club. It had about 20 users in it, all appearing as avatars. When the reporter introduced herself and tried to conduct an interview with a small group, one user replied: “You can report on me, baby.” The same user then asked her to expose herself.

>One user who was flirting with a woman in the crowd was interrupted by what appeared to be his real-life girlfriend yelling obscenities at him in the background.

>According to the documents, men outnumber women in Horizon by two to one. One safety feature Horizon has introduced is an option for users to create the equivalent of a 4-foot personal boundary for their avatars to deter unwanted physical contact.

>>54693353
>The next day, a male Journal reporter visited a “house party” in which he was one of two people in attendance. He and the other avatar jumped into a boxing ring and fought for a round while wearing jack-o-lantern sparring headgear, then played beer pong. The other avatar never spoke and the game ended after about 10 minutes. The reporter’s avatar later fell into the pool and couldn’t figure out how to get out. There was no one around to help.

>>54693079
>also you need a facebook account to use the oculus goggles
Reminds me of a youtuber that ended up doing a giveaway for his as he refused to make an account.

That cuck is really obssesed with getting peoples data to sell.
>make facebook account
>immediately "we detected suspicious activity"
>heh yeah no thats just an excuse
>"we will protect you please verify this account that YOU made belongs to you. Please upload photos and a phone number so we can confirms it you logging in even though you just created it and there are no photos or phone numbers associated to it"

>>54691915
No. This is a step in the right direction.
VR is neat, but it's proven itself over and over to be a short lived fad.

>>54693353
>According to the documents, men outnumber women in Horizon by two to one.
Yeah, “woman”

>>54691929
Rebrand as AI Book

>>54691929
hard pivot into AI/ML

we may live to see facebook developing physical ChatGPT compute boxes that you could deploy locally in your org.

a lot of big companies are banning the use of ChatGPT for work cos of IP concerns (see the Samsung case recently), so it would be a good niche, plus they get to control the entire vertical (hardware + software)

>>54693003
lol just chasing whatever the newest meme is, it's surely a recipe for a successful company.

>>54693474
>proven itself over and over to be a short lived fad.
until the image scanned directly onto your retina

>>54691915
What on Earth made Zuck think that normies would want to conduct work meetings in some kind of Second Life universe? It's one of the worst ideas of all time. People don't even like meetings in general. He's so far gone into upper management fantasy land that he's completely disconnected from the real world. He probably thinks all Facebook employees consider themselves a "family" too.

>>54691915
I dont think they "kill" the VR.

Quite differently, I think he realized VR is still just 3-5 years too early. On the other hand, Meta has one of the best pictures dbs for calibrating unique AI models - IG and Facebook. So they could create some nice things here that would then be used to feed into VR.
Even though I think Zuck is too retarded to use it for this purpose, but with all these IG pics (already pre-labelled through hashtags) you could easily create your personal VR porn customized to exactly each users fetish. Imagine what you could charge for that.

>>54695037
>He's so far gone into upper management fantasy land that he's completely disconnected from the real world
It’s this. The only people he ever talks to are overpaid executives, and the only people THEY ever talk to are overpaid executives. They probably genuinely had no idea (despite the ludicrous amounts of data they’re collecting to the contrary) that every other demographic on the planet hates the idea and the only people who’d even consider paying for a virtual meeting space and the expensive headsets are a few sycophant managers who couldn’t get it into the budget anyways. How is it even hard for something like faceberg to know what people want anyways? Literally just train an AI on your database, ask it “you know what’d be nice?” and see what it spits out

>>54691915
what reputation? fuckberg followers were doomed to begin with

>>54695263
>“you know what’d be nice?” and see what it spits out
>look how smart i'm . i "know" how ai works

it's always past, you dumb mutt. figure out the future is the key

Only when they rename themselves back to Facebook will I believe it.

>>54691915
No, not really. Facebook is still one of the most visited websites on the face of the earth.

>>54691915
this is false retards

>>54693079
You’re spot on about Apple

Earnings will show:
- Users don't grow
- ARPU decrease in US/EU (but increase in 3rd world, which however is negligible)
- Metaverse spending will be cut (but what about the billions $ wasted)
- TikTok is overtaking IG/FB among all demographics < 35

Meta will redirect the metaverse money into DC lobbying to get TikTok banned. That's the only way this company can survive. Kill the competition bc IG/FB sucks dick.

zucc realized he's not an engineer lmao