/biz/ - Business & Finance

Uh...guys???

>>54673759
>Hitler's Birthday Edition (cont.)
>made when only 5 min left of April 20th

Can we talk more about JP Morgan? They have been stacking silver longer than most anons here and are the biggest holder of the metal. Why?

>>54673799
America still has time to celebrate

>>54673787
Inside job

>>54673842
Nobody will respond. Anons are here to talk about bots and only post pictures. I don't think anons here have a brain or are on the know about what you are referring to.

>>54673846
Build a homesteading community with frens

>>54673921
And then don't let central banks into your new nation?

>>54673853
It's already April 21st in the place of the world where his birthday is on the 20th. You can celebrate, but the date still being the 20th in America doesn't make it the 20th where it matters; it's still already the 21st.

>>54673947
How'd that turn out for Gaddafi?

total banker death

>>54674005
Which coin is that anon? Whats on the reverse? looks like 1950s. South Africa?

>>54674017
Looks like a gillick sovereign from 1957 onwards

>>54674017
>>54674047
it is indeed a young lizard from 1958!

Happy Birthday Hitler.
hopefully the jew fudders choke today

>>54673787
Crypto doesn't have this problem. Especially not Monero. Even with Bitcoin you can move the equivalent of billions of dollars "across" any "borders" (borders don't even exist in crypto) without anyone being able to do anything about it, and if you didn't KYC to buy the coins then they're not in any way identifiable as connected to your ID etc; nobody knows who transferred the coins. And you can run them through Lightning which effectively anonymizes the transfer. Still though XMR is naturally vastly superior in this regard.

In for shrek

>>54674055
forgot pic im retard

>>54673972
fair point

>>54674055
>gillick sovereign
neat. one to add to the collection. thanks.

>>54674055
I have two myself.

Details as on the wreath on that one look good though.

>>54674071
>>54674075
yeah i want to get more sovs and francs, very comfy

>>54674060
Where did you get that NPC coin, is it silver?

>>54673842
jp morgan has merged with the fed and us government

>it's just a conspiracy theory
>the dollar isn't going anywhere
lmao

>>54673787
>canada creates $100m excuse to bring in new traceable gold laws
sounds about right

>>54674108
Yeah, I have 4 sovs. No francs. I want a rooster one, I’ll probs get one this year, but I think I’ll have to get a charlie coronation sov too so I’ll probs get that first.

>>54674129
Sanctions for thee, not for me

>>54673759
Fuck Hitler.
He lived as a demagogue, died a coward.
Fuck /pmg/.
It just guns, nazis, conspiracy nuts, doomsayers.

>>54674064
Got my second shrek and the coveted Xmas Shrek a few weeks ago. Wish the Pokémon coins weren’t obscenely overpriced so I just stick to the holy trinity of Shrek, Yugioh, and Sonic.

>>54674060
>>54674113
Seconding this, need to forever be on top of my meme stack.

>>54674208
>doomsayers
You misspelled Doomslayers.

>>54674113
Just found it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/384352927197

You’re paying premiums but for meme coins what else is new?

>>54674213
Is Xmas shrek harder to come by? I didn’t like the design as much.

In case you were wondering why there was so much Silver FUDing recently.
Yesterday alone saw the removal of 3.5 million ounces of silver from registered vaults..

https://www.silverinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/World-Silver-Survey-2023.pdf
According to this, there was an 18% increase in silver demand in 2022 while the supply stayed the same, leading to a 7400 TON deficit of silver.

One too many 8's there.

>>54674256
bros i'm scared

What if we're right?

>>54674249
Bout a dollar cheaper than the slabbed shrek rounds I have but seems like there’s a smaller minting of 10k. Something I noticed is that it was a bitch getting it into a capsule as the round was about as wide as a libertad.

>>54674113
>>54674222
https://www.dismecoins.com/product/npc-oarnge-man-bad-1oz-silver-coin/
it's a big trump site but i couldn't turn this down.

This paper notes the end of The silver 50¢ and DeGaule’s protests on the same page

I'm not a fascist but I'll still post one for the h man.
He gave us lots of fire memes over the years.

>>54674296
Holy shit the amount of trump rounds they have is insane. These dudes are committed to their cause.

>>54674289
You and everyone that stacks get bragging rights till the day they die. Length of lifespan depends on guns, ammo, and food stored/traded for of course.

Got a NPC and a Fiji Dogs round inbound mere hours after swearing no more til July lol. The news just keeps on coming in and seeing the potential death of cheapies has me manic for more metals.

>>54674289
We become the new 1%.

>>54674075
Arafat's guy....right?

>>54674060
What's the deal with these goldbacks, can I sell them to coin shop or pawn shops or are they basically not liquid?

>>54674379
Depends of the shop. One of the oldest LCSs in my old city never touched junk silver but would buy hand poured silver artwork. Goldbacks don’t make sense to me as there is barely any actual gold in them. However, the art is nice and most stack as parts of collections or of their home states.

>>54674208
I'm not a nazi. I think Hitler was anti-PMs and led his country into a war that ruined it. His enemy, De Gaulle, was FAR more a PM advocate than Hitler.

And I don't think anyone needs to imagine conspiracies to see the pervasive corruption in the world. But I'm optimistic about the future.

As for guns, well you got me there. Gold, guns and girls.

>>54674289
You might get laid

>>54674379
Right now they're basically a novelty/proof-of-concept/meme. They're real gold, so if you find someone who is willing to accept them as payment for something, you sure can.

>>54674379
I like them. Cant spend them in bongland, but I bought a few anyway

>>54674426
Goldbacks fit nicely in a yen wallet. You can buy them on ebay and elsewhere.

Never forgive central banks. They don't deserve a future... I will have my revenge, all normie cattle, and woman will get fucked. Meanwhile we will make it, I will make slaves out of the cattle. Silver my tool of choice.

What are the silver dollars with Calvin Coolidge on them called?
Are they just normal silver dollars vs ASEs? Are ASEs considered to be higher in value or something?

I also have a Pearl Harbor silver coin

>>54674396
Hookers are probably at ATH considering hoflation so the real value of silver is probably lower than $4k, still higher than spot though

$5000 per ounce

Remember this

My order of Krugerrands came in. This puts me at 300 ounces (of Krugs, I have others).

I AM A MAN IN THE LAND OF NON-FREEDOM. I EXIST WITHOUT BARRIERS I LIVE WITHOUT DEATH I AM. I AM.

>>54674478
I can't wait to enslave woman and normies. They deserve it for constantly shitting on us and treating us like were crazy. Those retards deserve to be our slaves, the beauty is silver coupled with hyperinflation will make this a reality.

>>54674517
I am Chaos!!!!

>>54674517
Okay?

>>54674490
I bow to you, based krugerman. I have 5 oz of gold krugs and my number 1 silver coin are krugs but definitely not 300 of them.

>>54674528
Reminder to use your new found powers for good /pmg/

>>54674582
I would consider a second holocaust good

>>54674582
Will do. It's what The Great Emperor would do.

>>54674591
That's because it is good

>>54674554
I decided last year I wanted a monster box of Krugs, and have almost exclusively been picking them up since. Feels good man.

>>54674595
He had sex with boys.

>>54674614
that’s jewish propaganda

Happy Birthday

>>54674208
AHAHAHA

It's starting to hit the normies.

https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/silver-enters-deficit-era-demand-surges

Which one of you assholes did this?

>>54674631
holy sheeeet. $62k swastika. (assuming those are ounces. which they look to be)
BASED.

>>54674682
So cheapies are just gone for good i guess?

>>54674730
We'll see, I don't think we're quite there yet.

>>54674682
best deal right now seems to be large bars of silver.

>>54673842
To get silver cheap and never allow it to go 50 and above ,they did this by shortibg silver in 2011 by inflating to much silver contracts, giving the illusion that silver was to common to be precious, when in reality ,there isn't enough silver in the world to give 7 billion 2 oz each ,"could be wrong ",every time Monday roll around the price goes down but imas you see ,silver and gold haven't gone down in a way that matter ,2k and 25 for the most part ,So now there are more normals fleeing from the dollar to better safe havens,and the bots and fudds you've been seeing since 4 weeks ago is the result of that fear

>>54674768
An anon a few threads back said that the only way to get low premiums right now are kilos. Makes me thirst for a silver bread loaf but alas my budget is beyond tapped atm.

>>54674395
Hitler couldn't really use the gold standard because all the gold had been taken by the Allies after WW1. His money atleast wasn't based on debt, and until the outbreak of WW2, there were silver coins.

>>54674730
It's all cheapies until The Great Revaluation happens. Keep on stacking until then. If the price happens to dip, stack some more.

>>54674059
crypto
nerds
will
seethe

>>54673759
ok /pmg/ I've got a math problem.

I can get $1000 face value 90% US junk Silver for $24,000 US
they say the bags weigh approx 715 ounces and contain either with 4000 quarters or 10,000 dimes.

if it costs $24,000 for 4000 quarters,...
does that mean I'm paying $6 per quarter?

is that correct?

>>54674947
Yeah, that math checks out.

>>54673759

>>54674947
Don't buy it,your better off looking cheap 1 oz silver then getting 10k dimes ,

>>54674701
It looked just like my luggage, okay?

>>54674730
Yes, but keep stacking while there's still metal to stack.

>>54674981
Doesn't look like there's any cheap silver now except in bulk.

Happy holiday niggers

>>54674981
Personally, I'd be getting a good number of kilo bars in there. Silver kilos seem have the lowest premiums right now. Too expensive for paycheck stackers, too spacious for gold stackers, so it's not in as high demand. It really depends on your stacking strat, but if you just want the most for your money, kilos are largely the way to go right now IMO. Maybe mix that in with 1 oz bufflos.

>>54675008
Only disadvantage I see in buying kilo bars is they're not really easily exchangable as coins or rounds.

>>54674844
this, gold standard wasnt an option , all he had was german willpower. really just goes to show that none of any of whata going on really matters in the end, its simply the will of a people to say that theyre not going to tolerate being mistreated anymore. gold standard is nice, but its a tool and nothing more.

>>54675017
I guess if someone had the means, they could split a kilo bar into smaller bars. They could melt it down and then pour their own bars or something.

Comfy pmg is BACK, finally. God I love silver.

>>54675037
Sounds like a future me problem

Our silver is going to the,... to the Moon

>>54674208
hitler was a good man

>>54674981
Hold up. If you’re buying that much why the fuck are you not getting a discount down to $22 range atleast. You need to explore your options.

>>54674668
Oh yeh - I forgot chocolate.

>>54674328
yea it's a complete boomer site but they mustve loved the NPC meme.
just read an article on msn about a stabbing over the meme. however the article never reported on the stabbing, just the meme.

>>54674379
i have many because i like them, believe in PMs, and have money to spend.

>>54675065
M O O N, that spells "silver".

I'm gonna drunk buy a kilo guys
wooooooo
LETS DO THIS

>>54674844
Ignoring for the sake of argument all of the Nazi gold that ended up in Switzerland, do you know how to get gold if you don't have any? You produce goods and services that people want and they pay you with gold and silver. Yes, I know the Treaty of Versailles made that difficult. But not impossible with time, hard work, and skilled diplomacy.l You know what is a really bad way to get gold and silver? Start a big fucking war. And before you say he had no choice, remember that fascist Spain had no problem avoiding it. Fascist Italy could have avoided it too, if they hadn't thrown in with Hitler.

Instead of leading the people into sacrifice, hard work and careful diplomacy, Hitler chose the easy way- get the people emotionally charged up with pride and resentment and lead them into war. Didn't work out too well, did it? That makes him a shit leader.

>>54674208
Weak bait.
Normies are now second guessing the Jewish narrative of "Nazis are le bad."
And I'm loving every second of it.

>>54674701

>>54675240
Straight facts

>>54675065
What book is this

just bought it
and yeah i put it on a credit card
im fuckin crazy
why arent YOU buying silver

>>54675303
1963 Great World Atlas
has a section about the space and the solar system

>>54675325
Because I'm fuckin poor, not fuckin crazy. Soon, though.

Silver will crawl up to like $30 an ounce and you will all cream yourselves until supply meets back up with demand and the price slumps again lol. There's an abundance of silver in the world yet to be even mined.

>>54675183
GO FOR IT BRO WISH I COULD TOO

>>54675412
>yet to be even mined.
maybe its not going to be mined. until the spot price is enough to make the mining of it cost effective and profitable

>>54674464
Based resentful anon
And in truth, it's for their own good, they are too retarded to make decisions by themselves when surrounded by jewish propaganda.

1964 redux

Does anyone have the Frensmark design saved?

>>54675497
this?

>>54674306
nice find

>>54674769
In 2011 a great meltdown of granma's silverware also helped to tamper the price by adding tons of already refined metal to the markets. Was a saving grace for the banksters.
It was the first time a run on privately owned silver was helped by 2 incredibly powerful tools : internet and ebay.

But this kind of opportunity was a one-timer. Grannies do not have any more silver left in the drawer to ditch (and it was the silent generation who were the last to own silverware, who was in turn sold by their kids in 2011, but boomers are complete silverlets themselves) once the ounce breach once again the $50 bareer.

So for the next run-up, banksters can't count on this kind of providential supply to save their asses.

>>54675497
I used to have the hat version with the text, but i fucked it up and overwrote it with >>54675501

>>54675501
Yes, thank you.

>>54675504
Thanks

>>54675507
yeah, boomer rocks is such a meme
boomers do not do PMs

>>54675183
I've held a half kilo but never a kilo. Holding the half kilo is a blessed feeling. I am sure the kilo is twice as blessed.

>>54674395
Fuck off. I'd trade away all the gold in the world to have a new Hitler.
And you are next-level ignorant if you believe Hitler had any other option left. He did everything possible to avoid an armed conflict involving the german people. The jews forced him to go to war, they and Churchill even bragged about it in their memoires.

He knew there would be no victory possible against the entire anglo-judeocracy, but he still fought with all he had to offer. Actually, he could have made this war last longer if he was inhuman like the commies and anglos, but anytime he had the opportunity to not hurt civilians and avoid useless bloodbaths for the opponent, he seized them.
He was as ethical as one can be in modern war times, even though modern wars are the antithesis of ethical.

Hitler literally was one of /us/.

>>54675583
It’s surprisingly small for the size. My favorite are the kilo art pieces like the doggaebi. Still luv the loaf, tho.

>>54675605
>doggaebi
Wish I could have some, they look realy cool. SK has some really neat silver, even if I pretty sure koreans dont care for it much

>>54675325
>$28/oz in 1kg bars
t-this is AUS or CAD dollars, r-right?

>>54675659
IM FUCKIN CRAZY BRO
RUFF RUFF
NOW U GOT THE DOG BARKIN AT U
RUFF RUFF
WHAT U GONNA DO NOW BRO

>>54675531
dug thru archives found hat with text version

its cool that sdbulilon will take the money from my account and then proceed to not send my shit for a week now, unprecedented amount of demand my flappy asscheecks how hard is it to put this shit in a box and put it in the mail you gorilla fuckers

>>54674989
My nigga these are the cheapies ,many in a couple months it'll go down but for now 25 spot is support

anyone apes get the new hycroft/amc rounds? first sold out really fast but i grabbed 2 of the 2nd release.

>>54675637
For an art piece the premiums aren’t TOO insane. 1280$ is what JM has on eBay. Considering kilo coins are similarly priced you’re definitely paying for the pretty but goddamn are they pretty.

>>54675659
28$ an oz is about as good as it’s going to get unless you start scrapping, fren. Even buffalos are 30$ before shipping most places.

>>54675795
forgot pic

>>54673759
>Hitler's Birthday Edition (cont.)
WOO HOOO!

>>54675230
His economic system basically used labor certificates as their currency. And Germany had prospered before there was any war. Hitler didn't want war, but he was provoked by anti-German attacks both from within and abroad. He started to build good relations with Poland until their leader was replaced with someone who was staunchly anti-German. He tried to work out many deals to peacefully gain Danzig and even proposed letting Poland have an access road to it, and then proposed letting Germany have an access road to East Prussia when that deal didn't work. But all were denied. Eventually he was forced to intervene after numerous border skirmishes and anti-German attacks. Jews had led a boycott of Germany before Germany did any boycotts against them and many had been outright calling for the destruction of Germany. Hitler made numerous peace deals with the British, but Churchill denied all of them. Churchill on the other hand had been wanting war with Germany years before WW2 began. Hitler never wanted war.

Spain didn't participate in WW2 because they had been too weakened from the civil war they just had, and their country was in ruins, and they never had the same level of prosperity Germany had, after WW2 Spain had also purged more hardline fascists.

The Jewish international banking cartel were upset not only that Germany freed itself from their control, but were also upset that Germany had also prospered because of it. They saw that as a threat to their control and so they had to get rid of him and destroy what he built. (Fun fact: Hitler's government was the only one to ever arrest a Rothschild)

>>54675822
fake

Do I stack or wait for prices to drop

>>54675892
>FACT CHECKED BY TRUE PARROTS

>>54675951
The answer is always stack, fren. No matter where the price goes you stack.

>>54674306
Saved, thank you. It's an interesting read for sure. Now I need to find the rest of it.

>>54676016
faaaaurk, what to buy next. Might get some krugs, don't have those yet

I bought some coins that look like american eagles but aren't real rounds, lol I feel dumb but if shtf normies will think they're real eagles

>>54675817
>>54675810
Jej

>.24 PURE GOLD
I sure hope nobody here has fallen for this.

>>54674306
Anyone have a link to fill article?

Predictions for tomorrow? Fridays have been weird the last few weeks.

Ahhh,... Asahi

>>54674326
On god, you sound like a boomer. Age?

>ebay auction
>bids start off at low price
>instantly bids above spot a day before the auction ends
All this for junk silver, some bidders on ebay are absolutely retarded.

>>54676087
>>54676087
>Predictions for tomorrow

>>54676104
Yeah people over pay on eBay, insane what I could sell on there that I bought this week for %30 more than I paid for it,

>>54676087
For 10 minutes after 9AM EST, Silver drops to $18 and Gold to $1500 an ounce, and then shoots back up to $26 and $2000.

>>54674595
There is only one Emperor. And he does not share power.

>>54674478
As in relative to today or after 400% increase in inflation?

>>54676126
Set your alarms everybody

>>54676124
They could at least try to get a good deal. Making a bid 10x higher than the previous bid removes any chance of getting a good price for it.
It's almost like they do it just to spite other bidders.

>>54674059
>crypto doesnt have this problem

nice bait faggot

>>54676164
Have you ever been to a coin auction? The same shit happens and it makes no sense. People will overpay for everything there. And it’s like why don’t you just go pick it up at the fucking shop? These things take an entire fucking day and here you are paying $2-100 more per unit when you can WALK 500 yards and buy it for less.

>>54674478
Does that even mean anything? Do you mean dollars become worth less or an ounce will buy that much in the future?

I’m stacking silver and gold now, but what foods are worth stacking? It’s offtopic, but I’d like the advice.

>>54676272
Whatever $5000 buys now per ounce of silver.

>>54676307
25 year rated dehydrated foods in case the can gets kicked

>>54676319
Don’t cycle fucking cans like I’ve been doing for 10 years just pony up and buy the calories at premium.

>>54676307
Mountain House, MREs, hardtack, canned food, rice (put rice into vacuum sealed mylar bags and then into buckets and it'll last forever)

>>54676307
Canned/shelf stable foods for the medium term and dehydrated foods for long term. Also a Berkey water filter and water bottles area good idea. Back on the topic of silver, I've been using a ounce of silver in the top and bottom half of my Berkey as an extra measure on top of the filters and it's been working wonders. The water was already good enough from the filters but the silver gave it that extra push to being even better.>>54676307

>>54676365
I do have 25 years worth of water filtration for four years via Berkey and it’s actually not that expensive. It might have cost me $800 5 years ago. Keep bleach on hand anyway. There is your filtration rate there.

>>54676386
>four years
4 people

>>54673759
I kind of want to get the 20 x 1 kilo argor heraeus bars since it seems more portable than buying 15 kilo bars, even though the over spot is greater

>>54676247
auctions set the value.

like redbook value. If every dealer lists ever coin at redbook, the price will never go up. Prices go up because people at auction big higher than book value. Making book value go up.

as to why someone might bid higher than book when stock is still listed at book value elsewhere, maybe it's not the same stock. Or the same quality. Or they don't know some is for sale elsewhere. Or it might just be ignorance. But no matter the reason, whatever they bid is now what the item is worth. 2 people bid $500 more than book value, and the book value just goes up $500

>>54676247
the other factor in setting worth is that you actually pay to find a better deal, right?

Like you have to spend time shopping around for the better deal. You have to research, check prices. This time has a dollar value. For most people that dollar value is much higher than your time is worth. So say my time is worth $250/hour and it'll take me $1k worth of my time to save a couple hundred dollars, I'm better off spending the money instead of the time.

this is a cost poor people don't generally calculate, but poor people are also not usually buying rare coins at auction. So they see moderately wealthy people blowing money and can't understand why they'd do it. Often it's just a matter of saving time.

>>54676427
Red book is completely disconnected from market and it’s a relic. Dealers pull that fucking boon out all the time. Red book AU peace dollar should go for $45+ I’m sure. Nope. Not even close. They are always 25% under and bragging about it? You’ve been bragging for years dude. Your book means shit

>>54676459
No. People who like getting good deals live for getting good deals. As of there is some patrician class of individuals that have narcissistically extrapolated their salary to figure out how much fiat they get while they’re asleep and then use that as a metric on how they live life. Are you a bullion dealer? You sure sound like one.

>>54676513
Yes exactly
redbook doesn't set prices. Buyers and sellers do. The only thing redbook can do is report prices.

the upshot of this
>>54676459
is that with rare coins you're not actually just paying for supply and demand. You're also paying for the laziness of rich collectors who can afford to outbid you if they want to. And as you say, they often overbid, driving prices up for everyone else.

>>54676459
>Often it's just a matter of saving time.
For ebay, the auction doesn't end early just because one sucker decides he's going to pay 10x more than what the previous bidder offered.

>>54676529
>People who like getting good deals live for getting good deals.
and those sorts of people rarely get rich or have the cash to be changing coin markets.

contrary to popular memes, rich people are generally pretty lax about spending their money. If they worried about every dime or dollar they'd never have had time to get rich in the first place.

>>54676537
>the auction doesn't end early just because one sucker decides he's going to pay 10x more than what the previous bidder offered.
but that "sucker" may have saved years of his life by not bothering to research prices.

Happy birthday, mein fuhrer

>>54676564

>>54676537
also that "sucker" isn't sitting in front of a screen for 7 days straight watching to see if he's outbid. He enters a bid and forgets about it because he already knows he won.

>>54676564
It takes like 5 seconds to go on numista to find the melt value for some junk silver francs.

>>54676307
Try a little bit of the canned food before you buy a ton of it. I've got a bunch of stuff I don't really care for. Rice, liquor, wine, instant coffee, sugar, and flour last a long time too.

>>54676580
Hey, if money isn't an issue and you really want something, who cares what it SHOULD cost?

fuck it, bid the moon and get the thing you want. Poor people don't get this. For wealthy people it's just how we live. You're gonna charge me $600 to deliver groceries to my condo? I don't care, just bring me my groceries.

>>54676585
As I've said, the auction doesn't end as soon as some retard offers to overpay for it. An even bigger retard could do the exact same thing.
If he's willing to pay for the price he's offering, then he may as well come back when the auction is about to end, or set up autobid so he doesn't have to pay significantly more than what the next guy is offering.

>>54676587
buying them for more than melt just makes the value go up.

Just like you guys buying for high premiums just makes the value go up.

>>54676609
>set up autobid so he doesn't have to pay significantly more than what the next guy is offering.
not sure you understand how ebay bids work fren.

you don't pay what you bid, you pay slightly more than what the next guy does.

for the price to go 10x you need at least 2 bidders bidding 10x

>>54676603
that's new money shit, I agree with your general sentiment but real rich people care about how they're spending money.

>>54674059
JlDF seething over this post.

>>54676088

>>54676625
Looks like he just changed his initial bid.

I kind of want to get an older gold coin but it feels weird paying 2k when it was a few hundred less a few months ago.

Also, for new customers to sdbullion, they're offering a small amount of silver or gold at spot. Their 10g gold bar has a weird holographic thing on the back. Am I the only one who doesn't like that?

>>54676637
>new money
kek
time is worth way more to any rich person than money is.
>>54676674
on ebay you can't see the bid, and you can't lower a bid without retracting the high one.

I "overbid" on lots of coins if I really need them. That's why prices go up. Either way, the coin is worth whatever I'm willing to pay for it, unless it's really common or something. But I don't buy common coins.

>>54675183
I underestimated that perth kilo. I thought they were sloppy compared to other bars in the same class like the Germania Kilos, shiny and chonky. The Perth bars are often scratched and dinged but its the perfect desk fondler because there is no security feature to fuck up and no cosmetic features to worry about. It's just raw silver in a fat bar with a swan stamped on it.

>>54676693
Why wouldn’t you want that? It’s a fucking micro hologram imprinted by a machine that only a few bullion dealers even have the capacity to attempt to recreate. It’s the safest bullion in assay to ever exist on the planet after 5000 years.

>>54676693
>you can't see the bid
Yes you can, I've just posted the bid history.
>you can't lower a bid without retracting the high one
There were no retractions, the italic text was the intial bid.
>I "overbid" on lots of coins if I really need them
The damage control makes sense now.

>>54676708
It’s not about their fucking time. You have the commercial picture of people because you worship wealth. It’s about how much money you have versus what things cost is a percentage that is built into monkey brain. It only just so happens that more money means it gets to you quicker. It has nothing to do with your inherent value. Or the inherent value of your time.

>>54676307
best food to stack is high quality protein. Best I've found is freeze dry wholesalers. Lasts 25 years. Good luck getting any though, sells out instantly.

>>54676096
I'm within 20-23 years old.
What did I say that made me sound like a boomer?

>>54676746
thanks for the (you), no take backs.

>>54676717
I just don't like the look is all.
However when I tried to look it up to get more info about it, I ran into the whole "digital fingerprint" thing and nope'd out harder. I'm trying to get away from all that shit.

>>54676592
What's the big guy on the left? Never seen it before. It looks like a modern round with an antiqued finish.

>>54676824
That’s fine. It’s just a more impressive mint mark. It ought to be valued higher than it is. As if a serialized bar is any less traceable but more secure than a hologram bar is secure but less traceable. I get where you’re coming from. We live in a world of relatively inexpensive precious metals with a vast amount of ways to accurately counterfeit. That world is going away soon. Choose wisely.

>>54676824
It's 5:30am give me a break.

Is it even worth getting junk silver these days? I have a few dollars face value and its getting hard and harder to find constitutional silver in rolls and dealers have retarded markup

>>54675008
>>54675017
>>54675037
>>54675183
>>54675583
>>54675605
Fuck kilos, get the real champion bar

>>54676928
That’s a volume play for them even now. If you are just picking up a few every month. Just keep doing so. If you are throwing down hard just say I’ll buy $10-20 fv for $1-2 less than what they said the price was. Most of them spend the majority of their time coping their low volume to clients as some great gigantic volume. That’s their standard operating procedure. They always magically have stock whenever you come in as a buyer that’s your queue to get a discount. If they won’t play ball just leave.

>>54676928
Like the other anon said I'm just picking up some here or there. Just got some quarters in last week and have some Morgans coming on Monday. Both cost maybe $200 total. It's high but it's not &200+ for a roll of 40 quarters high. The main thing about junk silver in the US is they will never ever be reprinted and they are being melted whenever they make their way back to the treasury. The supply is constantly being destroyed.

>>54676928
You can still get 24x junk if you buy $2k worth. Is that worth it? depends on how important you think fractional silver is and how important it is to have US minted fractional. 1/4 oz noahs arks are going for $52 oz. Canadian junk silver might offer better value.

>>54676664
Based tulip mania scholar

>>54676953
Is that one of those east indias? someone tried to get me to pay $340 for that this week.

>>54677016
three graces great engravers series

>>54677016
>>54677021
Yes 100 oz 3 Graces

>>54677021
Meh. Rather have a generic pattern on the back than an attempt at an art bar with detail of a 10oz bar on a 100oz bar. I do think the east India bars are superb. 250g bar is what I saw had a neat little
Ship with a tessellating background for the sky.

>>54677064
I'd white glove those women too, if you catch my drift

>>54677077
I catch your drift my friend! They sure keep me coming back

>>54677077
Okay the one on the left gives me jewess vibes. And each is holding something to offer except for her, unless I’m missing something.

>>54676852
its a pewter reproduction of a medal for raising chickens. It's got a big cock on the back.

>>54677098
Show cock

>>54677095
they represent ireland, england, scotland so I suppose the English one could be a jew.

>>54677094
Did you buy the 1oz gold one to complete your set?

>>54677094
sry just saw that it was gold. night filter on my screen made it look silver

>>54677133
Yes I suppose so, I also just really like the design with the lovely ladies. In that picture is 100 oz, 10 oz, and 1 oz gold. I may need to get the 1 oz silver to round it out

>>54674208
Ywnbaw

>>54677109

>>54677117
Yeah she has both of them in her grasp and has nothing to offer. Makes sense. >>54677153
Nice cock

>>54675089
>hitler was a good man
He was a piece of shit, and took advantage of the German people to feed his narcissism.
And you nazi shots have a containment board. Stay there.

>>54676869
In a perfectly paranoid world, someone utilizing the digital ID lookup could ostensibly be used to trace the bar's travel if used to authenticate.
A lower tech sigma or xray or whatever test is more isolated and not connected to any conceivable database. Also the coins and stuff I like are not serialized also precisely for that reason.
I understand the theoretical value I just don't want any part. But this all comes secondary again to "me no like look".

>>54676877
pic related

>>54673759
AYYYYYYYYYY LMAOOO

>>54677187
source?

>>54677205
The hologram is easily peeled off. My serialized bars on the other hand. I suppose I could take a ball been hammer or a rubber mallet and a chisel and undo the traceability but marr the aesthetics.

>>54677235
Oh, i didn't know it was basically just a sticker. For some reason I assumed it was somehow part of the bar, like they painted it onto the bar with a special paint or something.
I retract some of the reluctance then.

>>54677187
>come into a thread only to complain about hitler
>contribute nothing else
lol

>>54677218
>source?
History

>>54677254
It's the thread theme. Read the OP.

>>54677258
thread theme is precious metals you dolt.

>>54677064
do fingerprints attract sulfur in the air somehow, or is it just precaution with the gloves?

>>54676056
>>54676085
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers?date.from=1964-12-01&date.to=invalid&keyword=De%20gaulle&keyword.any=Gold

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/rendition/nla.news-page11478819.pdf

You’ve got to search key words in the archive, lots of articles

>>54677254
Last time I called it a sticker someone went into detail saying it wasn’t and head some links. It in the same thread he also warned against taking it out of assay card as to not damage it. Not sure what to believe I wonder if I took a propan torch to the back of my smallest bar what would really happen

>>54677279
How stupid are you?
>>54673759
>Hitler's Birthday Edition (cont.)
If you don't want this shit, don't make it the theme.

>>54677279
>what's with the gloves
Just precaution mostly. It's a good way to handle PMs, and cotton gloves are cheap, you can get them for a few bucks a pack

>>54677279
It’s to not scratch it, fine silver is soft.

>>54677254
>Oh, i didn't know it was basically just a sticker.
It isn't just a sticker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinebar

>>54677330
last time the bot was in the thread I bought some silver. now with you, I'll grant you that I don't believe you're a bot, but I will make a donation to a few national socialist newsletters in your memory.
not that i even agree but because lol

>>54677334
>>54677340
good points, thanks lads.

>>54677298
I see. Also, while I see the appeal of the assay I can't help but see it as a slightly weird form of "keep it in the box to keep it's collector's value", which is weird considering it's bullion we're talking about.
It feels like there's much too much plastic in most people's collections nowadays.

>>54677365
I don't give a shit what you do with your money.
I give a shit that PM threads are themed with nazis, guns, troons, conspiracy fools, and similar idiotic non-PM themes.

>>54676746
>Yes you can, I've just posted the bid history.
thanks for info. I assumed it was a different site because US ebay doesn't work that way at all.
>>54676759
thanks, I'm usually interested in different attitudes towards money in poor people vs. rich. I have been both so I feel like I have some insight on the topic.

I am frugal, but not in the ways you think. For example if clipping coupons will save me $50k per year I'll hire someone to clip coupons for me and pay them $20k to do it. I won't clip coupons myself, that's a dumb use of my time. Posting here is also a dumb use of my time, but I enjoy it.

The other miscalculation is taxes. If I overpay for a coin you can bet I'm writing it off either as a business expense or a retirement expense/investment.
So I don't really care what I pay for something that I'm writing off. If I overpay on the item or service I'm underpaying on my taxes. And YES, I have to pay taxes. Something poor people don't have to think about. So if you see me throwing money away you can bet I'm gaining in some other area, be it quality, convenience, profit, or tax deductions.

I'm sure you're right some rich people just love shopping for a good deal, but the whole point of veblin goods is to spend as much as possible, not as little.

>>54677361
I read this multiple times last time someone posted it and I’m still not sure about this. A kine gram is a dovid but to be distinguished from any dovid because it occurs by embossing on the surface of the gold itself as a physical structure rather than a foil which contains the divide stamped into the object? Am I following?

>>54677418
My understanding is that the holograms is created using a diffraction grating. You can buy them as plastic decals too, but you can also emboss them into any material. An unusual but tricky culinary trick is to pour tempered chocolate onto a sheet of diffraction grating (a plastic sheet with the lines etched), effectively transferring the effect onto the shiny chocolate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMuaSDFqXJI
At Heraeus, I gather this is somehow etched into the gold with a proprietary process. That's what makes it such a good security device. If it was a decal, you could peel it off and transfer it to a plated tungsten bar.

>>54677397
>And YES, I have to pay taxes. Something poor people don't have to think about.
1/4 of every dollar I make goes to taxes. I wouldn’t dream of paying anyone any substantial money for any menial task I can do myself let alone “clipping coupons”. Which no offense to you is such an abstract and unrealistic example to give for someone who finds it commonplace to TimeMax and hire peasants to do something disproportionately beneficial to you than it is to them. My language might seem crass but I do really mean that you think that paying taxes is for the rich, and doing menial tasks are for the poor. The bifurcation is almost a caricature. I do enjoy retete as my weekend started today.

>>54677514
Tempting to just blow torch the back of a 5gram and see what happens. I think I’ll do it this weekend and report results. Or maybe buy a 1-2 gram and then do it.

>>54677549
2 points, I'm murrican, poor people don't pay taxes here. And our society is bifurcated with very little middle ground. Our middle class is essentially extinct.

second, like most self-made rich people here I own businesses. I have a few dozen employees, meaning if I wanted to save say $55k doing things for myself I can just lay off my office manager and do her job. Or the operators or the sales crew or anyone I employ.

but of course I don't have time to do one other person's full time job, let alone dozens of them. Once you hit that point you begin to ration time vs. money and think more of hiring people vs. DIY. I do things I enjoy, I hire people to do the rest. Lots of people enjoy owning expensive coins, not all of them enjoy researching prices and availability of coins. Many of those people can afford to buy coins at any price, even if they're overpaying.

>>54677571
I admire your scientific method. If you're really going to do that, see if you can tell it's a decal or not before applying heat. Or burnishing a patch with a spoon to see if there are etched lines that get ruined.

>>54677549
also I guess just for reference, my income tax rate is closer to 1/2 of what I earn.

so if I can throw some money away and gain something by getting rid of it, it's better than handing it over in taxes. So yeah, I might just bid 10x what a coin is "worth" because it's better than giving that money directly to the tax man.

>show a normalfag a picture of a coin and they say it's cool and move on
>let a normalfag hold real silver or gold and you can see the greed and lust in them

Every time.

>>54673853
Hearty kek from your pic. Very good sir.
>>54674060
Goldbacks have such amazing images of Americana, that produce a strong sense of Hiraeth in me, but I can't bring myself to spend fiat on them. Are they a meme, or worth having? Is there real gold in that plastic seal?
>>54674394
>Goldbacks don’t make sense to me as there is barely any actual gold in them
Doesn't a 1000 dollar bill have like, half a troy ounce of gold electron bombarded into it? It should be heavy...
>>54674411
>They're real gold
I need a measurment of weight and some science behind it mate. I want to know.
>>54674464
>Meanwhile we will make it, I will make slaves out of the cattle
>>54674528
>I can't wait to enslave woman and normies.
Don't repeat (((their))) mistakes anon, we're better than (((them.))) We're better than that.
>>54674614
>buying into propaganda
>>54675008
>Silver kilos seem have the lowest premiums right now
I literally spend twenty dollars more to have 32 troy ounces in rounds, I don't see the convenience buying bars besides long term convenient storage.
>>54675659
>>$28/oz in 1kg bars
As good as it's gonna get anon, stack as much as you can. Price goes down from that? Stack more. Price jumps up? Stack more.
>>54675749
>how hard is it to put this shit in a box and put it in the mail you gorilla fuckers
>buying online and leaving a paper trail
>not walking in and verifying you're buying actual silver and gold with a reputable dealer whose reputation is at stake when bartering.
NGMI.
>>54675881
>The Jewish international banking cartel were upset not only that Germany freed itself from their control, but were also upset that Germany had also prospered because of it
Best post in thread, truthpills of unfathomable levels.
>>54676341
>Mountain House, MREs, hardtack, canned food, rice (put rice into vacuum sealed mylar bags and then into buckets and it'll last forever)
Good advice.
>>54676710
God, I hate the shape of those round top bars. The cut ingots are kino. Legos ftw

>>54677580
I also own a small business but not to scale. Hiring someone to do what I do would be unnerving to me (initially I suppose), plus my wage slavery, I would guess 33% accurately tax on my small business and 25% accurately tax on my income. I have a business associate that I work with as a part of my operation who runs a real shit show, but he’s been doing it for a decade and mucking along much to my disappointment because I despise his business practices and it’s real pain in the ass to deal with his company and of course he blames everyone that he hires for all of his troubles. Well he decided to hop off the yacht for a bit to “take things under control” and I think it’s actually worse off under his direct leadership, than it was before months after the ship was meant to be steered. I told him so and he compared his business to Walmart as a manner of pride. Can I truly bumble along by scaling too quickly without the right knowledge or expertise to hire and manage appropriately? I’d like to make as much money as he appears to while doing practical nothing but bucketing water over the edge of the ship indefinitely. To remain on topic here is a millennial rock that I paid premiums to the Jew for. Serialized fingers undoxxed

>>54677586
On your suggestion I just bought a magnifier to 1000x that I can link to my phone for pictures. We will take a look through that before I start setting things on fire.

>>54677663
>goldbucks
>Are they a meme, or worth having? Is there real gold in that plastic seal?
Yes, no. Supposedly.

Their FV is half of the gold value, and they cost 100% over spot.

>>54677675
Paying taxes is a patriotic duty. On the other hand buying millennial rocks is an act of treason, because you are conspiring against the stability of the US's financial system.

>>54677754
fuck taxes

>>54677622
that's only if that's somehow a write off or a business expense, otherwise it's just using your post-tax money.

>>54677675
Yeah it's pretty easy to fuck up either by hiring the wrong sorts of people, or by doing work yourself that you suck at.

for me hiring came as a necessary adjustment to growth. I took on too much work and had to hire someone. But once I got used to trusting people to do good work and getting rid of people that couldn't do good work it got easier. A lot of what I do is contracted out to other companies as well. That way I don't have to worry much about managing those aspects or projects. They carry insurance guaranteeing quality, and if they fuck up it's not my problem.

The whole shit show is a learning process. Mess up and then improve in future. People like your associate either are doing well or will get run over by competition and lawsuits. Or both. Both can happen. You can do your best and still easily fail. But then you learn and try again, no? I've been in biz almost 30 years now. I've got a huge resume of past failures, and just enough successes to balance them out. But you only need one success.

>>54677778
>that's only if that's somehow a write off or a business expense
yes. That's what I said.

if you see a rich person throwing away money we probably found a way to write it off as either a business expense or retirement investment. A lot of lambos and yachts and jets out there getting written off every year. And coins too. Of course we write off coins.

>>54677778
>it's just using your post-tax money.
cap gains is about half my income tax rate. It makes sense to spend money on 100% deductions, but I'll take half off my taxes too if I can't deduct the whole deal.

>>54677754
Gr8 b8 m8 8/8
>>54677781
That makes sense to me. The lawsuit is what he is edging on, I’m cutting ties asap but I’ve been browsing the market and there are pitfalls to switching over, he doesn’t have any major qualms over losing big clients as he treats big and small just the same. I hope to see him in ruin only because he tried to use CEO as some big indicator that I ought to trust his word. I’ve worked at 3 startups and CEO is not something that automatically makes you a brilliant genius, that also goes for people who say they’ve worked at start ups, a pitiful lot of people and they know it as well as I do!

>>54677846
CEO's are mostly midwits and often psychopaths. It goes with the territory. A lot of us wind up in business for ourselves because we're assholes and nobody will hire us. But even if he goes broke he'll probably just start right back up in business and carry on like nothing happened. We're tenacious like that. Also not a lot of options. What am I going to do, go flip burgers after losing millions? Not terribly likely.

>>54674701
Guys, how would you be able to pull off stealing 130 bars of gold?

>>54677896
probably need insiders in security and transport. It would take a lot of planning. An airport is the place to do it though. They handle huge amounts of metals and rely on people not knowing that.

I've had a long day and I didn't get to celebrate properly, but happy late Birthday to Adolf Hitler. May peace be upon him.

>>54677896
Get in truck, start engine, drive away.

>>54677882
I feel much more comfortable now in just going for it big with the business, as a midwit myself I’m half way there. Goodnight and thanks for the conversation and Happy Birthday Hitler!

>>54677716
>Yes, no. Supposedly.
Sorry, but not worth the risk. I'll stick to physical.
A shame, the artwork is really amazing in my opinion. Peak Americana printed on silver or gold bars/coins would be amazing.

>>54677921
g'night anon, thanks for talking with me
win or lose, going all in on your business is worth it for the experience and the chance at getting rich. Sure beats never knowing what would happen.

Just a few more hours until $19 silber
before it pumps to $30 champs, get ready

>>54673759
>>54674289
>What if we're right?

If...?

the sov pile is arriving today as long as royal mail doesnt refuse to ring the fucking doorbell again

>>54678136
I hate silver so much it is unreal.

Britbongs which PM sellers track the silver price? Every day I see the price go up or down but the price on Atkinson's chards or silvertrader remains unchanged. Why? Where can I buy silver at the correct price?

>>54678673
cool. tell me more

Have some Rhodesian silver

> Buttcorn shitting the bed
> USA subsidizing homes for niggers and spics
> Countries dumping the dollar
> US about to debase coins even more
> Debt ceiling to be raised again
> Nigger Wars 2.0 the niggering in Sudan causing a funni situation in Africa causing niggers to pour into Europe

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/04/20/senators-to-introduce-bill-allowing-us-mint-to-alter-coins-metal-content.html

Yup, it’s silver time silver bros

coomer coin bros

>>54678905
>our money isnt worth the paper its printed on
>our money isnt worth the metal its made out of
>lest start making our coins out of recycled plastic
these fucking lifelong parasite kike politicians will never approach the actual root causes of anything. all they can do is take and ruin and, degrade, devalue, destroy and take some more

>>54678926
N a k e d f e e t s

>>54676592
whats that single coin on the left?

>>54678930

I can’t wait to see the amerigoys reaction once 20000 dollar aluminum coins start getting rolled out like in Weimar Germany, definitely gonna start exchanging some dollars for nickels just in case

>>54678943
Also this

>>54674614
jew slander unfounded. Cope more shlomo.

>>54674768
I get 100 oz bars. Lowest premium I could find.

>>54678905
Meh, its not as if the content of current fiat coins are supposed to be more valuable than face value, but this to me screams of a panic that the current nickel content is going to be worth more than the face value in the near future. Another sign that the USD is going to hyperinflate in the near future. I bet that moment will happen when the reserved Dollars being held by nations around the world spend them in the domestic economy.

>>54674426
Where did you buy them?

What do you think /pmg/, you ever hear of these guys Nationwidw Coin and Bullion reserve?
Deal seems a bit too good to be true

>>54674174
>melt stolen gold
>Whoopse can’t trace a stamped number that no longer exists

>>54679153
Turns out the ad was 2 months old but was only delivered now.

>>54678136
I would stack like a mad man if that happened.

>>54678136
Whats the thesis on this anyway?

>>54678943
>>54678965
it's exonumia from canup coin. Follow the replies if you want to see the reverse.
>>54677098

Straya

>>54678582
Do you have any fucking idea the amount of mail men who die every year from electrocution due to faulty doorbells, do you? DO YOU?

The answer is none, but any fucking day now it easily can happen and you'll be responsible for it because of your selfish demands, you just think about that.

>>54678926
Swan coin finally arrived. Is it everything we could have possibly hoped? Looks good. Did it come with an ice box and certificate?

>>54679120
EBay. There’s a shop called haven precious metals that does all of them.

>>54678926
Also what number did you get of the 500?

>>54679153
>too good to be true
it is. A lot of those are high-pressure sales rooms that try to talk you into subscriptions or expensive upsells. I've heard horror stories that they are also used to identify vulnerable people to target with other exploits (i.e. tech support scams)

Which coins should we start stacking before these retarded fucks debase them?

>>54679153
Check the reviews on the BBB

>>54679618

Pre 82 pennys and nickels

>>54679618
Quarters.
Do you have any idea how long it will take for things like laundromats to change out coin slots? Longer than it takes for the new currency to be minted, thats for sure

>>54673759
Is better bullions or coins ?

>>54676459
A boomers time isn’t worth that much. There’s a fine line between not wanting to waste time and being bad with money. It’s not like they’re going to do anything with that time except go home, mow their lawn, and jerk off anyway. Just like the guys on /k/ that swear reloading is a waste of money when you factor in time spent, while posting on an anime imageboard for many hours per week for a decade or more. Your time is only valuable if you’re producing something with it. If not, that time is better spent reducing expenses if possible.

new bread baking
>>54679714
>>54679714
>>54679714

>>54677675
>them palm grooves
>that Panera bread sandwich

>>54679705
buy buillion coins

>>54676077
>24% pure
Checked for Jew gold

>>54678905
>Debasing an already debased coinage to save "money"
Kek

>>54679618
Think it'd a be a good idea to withdraw some cash in coins instead of paper? That way one is still operating on the 'cash is king's mindset but in coinage instead of paper.
>In b4 just buying pm's

>>54679618
There is currently 1.25 grams of nickel in every US nickel. At current prices, that's about 3 cents but it's been much higher before as nickel goes up and down a lot. The 3.75 grams of copper in a nickel are worth a bit over 3 cents at the moment so, a nickel is worth more in melt than 5 cents, but it's been much higher in the past and will likely increase more. It's a lot of effort, but theoretically you could stack nickels and sell them for scrap (though I think it's illegal) and probably beat make a decent return if you time it right.