/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54605670
>>54605670
ok chud

>>54605728
stay poor permapleb

>>54605749
this is you

>>54605670
Nice thread rosebro

>>54605670
That's cool but nobody in crypto cares about the tech.

>>54605913
>>54605728

>>54606013
Chud? You misspelled Chad wrong

>>54605913
Don't be upset fren, when I said all those mean things it was mostly directed at tranny fudders, swear. Y-you're not a tranny fudder... right? You can't be, I can see more than that in you, accept my hand out of poverty.

Also
>filename
Who hurt you?

>>54605928
It's the tech and fundamentals that often produce the most long-term gains. This isn't a thread for moonboys. This thread is for people who want to explore and learn. Suppose it'll probably die, but that's okay, my bags are filled. I'm here for fun.

>>54606127
There has never been a coin that pumped because of its tech. Not a single coin out of the 50k or whatever coins there are now. What makes you think rose would be the first?

>>54606127
for some reason Kraken doesn't have it listed anymore

>>54606179
Chainlink: 50 cents to $50
ETH: 42 cents to $4,800
Monero: 21 cents to $517

I can keep going, because you're wrong. Technology, use-case, and adoption are three of the main reasons a coin pumps at all over any long time horizon, and they're all related. The one-off shitcoin that does absolutely nothing pumping to infinity is the actual anomaly in this situation.

Note: I am not comparing ROSE to these projects, but these are projects that pumped because the tech proving to be extremely useful.

>>54606207
Dunno what's up with that.

Not being able to process sensitive data is one of the biggest roadblocks currently holding the adoption of web3 back, it's like we've hit a stalemate. We literally can't go much further without it. Breaking that barrier is fucking massive, and no one in the game is even close to the level of Oasis at it. Like I said, IC3 project, and by FAR ahead of the pack. I mean just think about it, Equifax and Meta, among others, are using this little shitcoin project that no one has ever heard of. Don't you think that speaks to how ridiculously important it is, when massive companies are willing to immediately jump all over it as soon as its made possible? The market is incredibly desperate for this technology, and Oasis is literally miles ahead of the pack in terms of building it. And already trusted by the biggest companies in the world because of its inherent prestige due to who is behind it.

You literally cannot find a more solid project solving a more critical issue. Remember what I said about AI in the OP? The usecases literally never end. You guys have no idea what this is and what Oasis is building.

Fucking best sleeper project ever.

>>54606287
All 3 of those coins didn't pump because of tech.

>>54606450
and when are they gonna launch so we can get out of the stalemate?

>>54605670
Take your enthusiasm to Reddit, seriously. For one, anything that people get excited about here winds up dying a horrible LINK-like death. Second, these retards honestly don’t deserve this. What do they contribute? At least redditors have positivity they bleed into the world.

Every time you want to post something positive on biz about ROSE or any other hidden gem, go to Reddits crypto sub and do it there. You will reap 100x the rewards for your effort.

>t. 3.8 million ROSEchad

>>54606535
You mean upvotes or? What kind of rewards one person would get from reddit lmao

What does rose do that is different from other privacy coins? I remember someone posted about a project it might’ve been called SECRET or some shit but it was essentially the same tech only a more active development team, not trying to FUD either

>>54606564
>rose holder quantifies the value of his posts and suggests reddit due to this
Unironically bearish, Reddit projects thrive on short bursts of hype

>>54606564
A lot more retail interest, buyers, and hype which is how you get tokens to pump in this speculative shit show market. Or did you think Cardano, DOGE, solana, etc are all top tokens for their fundamentals? :)

>>54606594
I mean, for reddit you just need a funny picture and them spam "hodl" "moon" "for the community". And as you said, fundamentals don't matter there, so why go trough the effort of describing those in details anyway?

>>54606505
I mean, if you're going to sit here and blatantly deny reality then I'm not sure how I can help you. Perhaps buy a plane ticket to India, find one of those old caves the Buddha's used to meditate in, and sit in there for a while.

>>54606510
Well Sapphire is already launched, as well as something called the Oasis Privacy Layer (OPL) coming soon. OPL allows protocols on other chains to bridge to Sapphire using a secure messaging bridge and gas relayer to essentially process whatever sensitive data they need to on Sapphire, then send it back to their home chain while preserving privacy the entire time. It's a way for projects on other chains to utilize the capabilities Oasis offers without having to move their whole projects over. OPL is not quite ready because the gas relayer is still being developed, and there's some bits of Sapphire being ironed out that other projects are waiting on before they deploy, as far as I know. Sapphire is the confidential EVM, by the way. Plus, the enterprise partnerships are already using it.

>>54606535
I hear you. I've been considering it.

>t. 3.8 million ROSEchad
Mary and Joseph, I kneel.

>>54606567
Yeah SCRT is a "competitor" to Oasis, which has already had to rebranded once and has been hacked numerous times by the teams from IC3 that literally help develop Oasis. Andrew Miller.

>>54606564
>>54606583
Yeah but reddit are retards and pump shit like ADA to the high heavens, which literally does nothing, I'm saying this as a positive reason for going there.

>>54606567
They are COMPLETELY different architectures. SCRT really only handles private smart contracts and only in certain scenarios even in that case. Oasis is the privacy god protocol. Dream it up, you can do it. All of the industries which currently can NOT use public blockchains because of privacy laws such as healthcare are now enabled by Oasis. Under collateralized loans without KYC on blockchain and in DeFi, the holy fucking grail of DeFi? Oasis. Cleanest data marketplaces on the fucking planet because finally you can validate highly personal/private information without revealing the end user? Oasis.

It’s one of very few L1’s with an actual reason to exist right now. The rest are all “muh TPS” who gives a fuck if they’re not bringing anything new to the table? Oasis does, and it allows the use cases of blockchain to minimally 10x in value.

>>54606641
Rosechad, can you explain why ROSE pumped so massively in January 2022, in the middle of the bear? During the 2021 bullrun it only reached 0.22 but then during the bear it exploded to 0.57 and then 2 months later dumped all the way down to 0.04?? Why the hell?

I don't understand this project's price action.

>>54606641
>SCRT
They also straight up scammed their old holders by quietly changing their token into a new one and only allowing you to upgrade to the new one for a very limited time window.

>>54605670
If AI is next big thing then the real play is data coins. Ai runs off data. Data is the new oil. If you know you know

>>54606665
>why ROSE pumped so massively in January 2022
IMO that was due to Yuzu launching on Emerald (the first Oasis standard EVM with no privacy features as a public proof of product), pic related. ROSE came to the EVM L1 party very late, during the 2021 bull there were literally no products outside of enterprise products. Then emerald launched super late into the run and started picking up steam right as everything started dying. The crash down to .04 was just market forces IMO. Also, some people speculate that FTX was shorting the fuck out of ROSE because they invested in SCRT and listed their perps at about the same time.

>>54606780
Yes sir, and Oasis is already partnered with Meta in this space. People are finna learn.

>>54606841
I see. Thanks Rosechad. I already tried to buy ROSE at 5 cents but Metamask was gay and wouldn't allow me to regardless of slippage. Gonna buy it as soon as it drops back to 5-6 cents.

>>54606841
Chainlink is the play nigga. Chainlink is the ultimate big data coin. All data (off and on chain) will be verified by Chainlink via oracles and fed into smart contracts for automation of billions of jobs and to power AI. Data is the new oil and Chainlink is the global data refinery. Few understand

>>54606905
>Chainlink
Have smol bag. What do you think is the highest it can reach in 2025?

OP is correct

kek baggies itt

>>54606905
Ari Juels helped write the whitepaper for Oasis, DECO and Oasis are different and have different capabilities. As far as my understanding goes, DECO has certain limitations where Oasis can fill those gaps. Essentially, both technologies will be necessary. There's been some fights on Twitter about this and they always end up agreeing both are needed due to their different strengths and limitations and are complementary,.

>>54605670
Didn't read. AI and Crypto are counter intuitive and don't combine.

>>54607265
You should've read.

>>54605670
I will never give my jew bucks to a woman. Especially an Asian woman

>>54607378
Yeah have, at one point or another during your lifetime, handed your goy coupons to a woman. I guarantee it. Thus, you are in fact a bold faced liar. Apologize.

>>54607399
I've never even seen a woman you useless piece of shit

>>54607457
Based monk trapped on a male-only buttsex island.

>>54607399
Rosechad, I have decided to trust you unconditionally because you're an anonymous faggot on an egyptian pyramid-hunting imageboard. How many ROSES to not kill myself in 2025?

>>54607265
>thinks he’s smarter than Dawn Song
Kek

>>54607481
100k

>>54607689
Doable. Thanks m80.

>>54607689
Currently $700 mil mcap. What are you expecting in 2025? $7 billions?

>>54605670
Spoonfeed me on cypher and when cypher is actually going do fuckin do anything.

>>54607457
the absolute state of this name calling

>>54607714
I'm expecting much more than a 10x, though I would be happy with it . I am generally looking for $1.50 - $3, personally

>>54607735
There's too many baggies who are waiting to sell. It won't even break 20c let alone $1.50-3.

I’m going to archive this thread so dump all the bullish (and bearish) aspects of Oasis into it. Unironically best thread on /biz/ right now.

>>54607760
Baggie here. I will dump at 9c. Will buy back at 1c

>>54607735
>$1.50 - $3
I would literally die of dehydration from cumming too much.

>>54607820
It'll be interesting to see who's right in a year or two. It appears people still haven't learned anything from the last 2 bullruns. Mainly, last cycle's coins will never break ath. Even if they break the usd ath value, their sats value is still in the dumpster. Rose won't break 20c. Look for this post in the archives in a year.

Been buying rose for 2 years at this point. Have yet to hear any good, legit fud against it LOL
Trannys will keep trying to fud, I will keep buying and retire off rose. Take the L tranny fudders.

good thread, sadly most have 0 clue in what Oasis is doing, and the end goal of the IC3.

>>54607998
I bookmarked you chud

>>54607998
I'll look for it when ROSE hits 3 dollars.

>>54606841
Why should anyone give a fuck about the emerald paratime?

>>54608290
Cause it showed that ParaTimes worked, and now there's Sapphire. And unlike Emerald, Sapphire offers confidential smart contracts. Maybe you missed all the front running that went rampant during the DeFi craze.

>>54605670
bought at 0.05 and sold at top. but keep seeing organic discussion. may be time to go all-in. thanks OP.

>>54605670
Sui
Make it
Fu

Stacks please.

>>54606997
>t.

>>54606641
>Rose cultist blindly believes jeet saying they have 3.8 million rose in a fucking greentext
This proves you are either an eisily decieved moron or samefaggeing in your own thread.

>>54608411
Or, maybe I'm a high I.Q individual, which correlates with high trust? Maybe it literally doesn't matter if he's lying or not and that would be a retarded thing to attack? Maybe you're retarded? Anyway, thanks for the bump.

Also reluctantly checked

>>54608268
>>54608249
>>>/biz/thread/S54605670#p54605670
see you fags in a year

>>54608638
The peak should come in Fall 2025, so more like 2 years and a half.

>>54608687
i think people will try to frontrun the halving this time. the bullrun will start early and peak some time next year.

>>54608699
Possible, but I'm very wary of assuming that "this time is different". Until now, we've had the exact same pattern as the last 2 times: slow bleed for 1.5 years, bottom one year after ATH, and now we have initiated the stage were we slowly climb upwards until the halvening, when everything will explode.

I'm expecting BTC to oscillate between $25k and $40k until the halvening. But if it moons sooner, great, I'm already mostly in because the absolute worst case scenario is to entirely miss the train.

>>54608766
Completely agree with everything you said, with the one caveat being that it seems all but certain we are heading into a recession soon, and I'm not exactly sure how BTC will react. I don't think it would be enough to throw off the cycle entirely, but it could disrupt it. Or BTC just soars through it, who knows. We don't really have data on BTC during recessions except 2020.

>>54605928
Yep and there is zero chance, zero, that a chinese woman has the dynamic charisma to lead a business to success, in a cut throat MALE environment. Rosies enjoy watching every project under the sun MOG yours while she talks about how the tech will attract investors because they are sooo great.

lmao

>>54608931
>zero chance, zero, that a chinese woman has the dynamic charisma to lead a business to success

Oh, so close, but that's gonna be another miss.

>>54608931
She's literally the only crypto founder in the entire fucking space who had already founded and was running a billion dollar business when she started her blockchain.

Of all of them, she's the only one who has proven any true business acumen.

Why do you think it was so easy for her to get Meta to sign on? Equifax? BMW? Etc.

She has relationships with all of these companies already. And thousands more. It's not even a matter of if, just when.

>>54605670
You think vitalik a sirgay tag teamed dawn and their balls touched?

>>54605670
>>54605913
>>54606535
>>54606896
>>54607760
>>54608766
>>54609011
Did somebody say….. AI COINS?

>>54609007
>>54608931
The delusion

>>54608905
Yeah, the recession thing worries me as well. If I see a big crash I'll just pour more fiat into it, I guess.

If Rose will get the place you guys think it deserves I just don't get how it won't reach 80B market cap.

I don't understand if I am stupid or just a moonboy.

>>54609884
Some people think it will. My $1.50 - $3 at the peak of the next bull is very conservative by a lot of ROSEhead standards.

The circulating supply should be around 6.5 billion at that point.

>>54609884
Depends on the performance of the bull run as a whole. ROSE was gaining huge momentum in late 2021, but that got cut short by BTC's collapse.

I'm expecting $2 in the next couple years, but it could go higher. We'll see.

The highest rose can reach next bull is like 30 cents
The sui is therefore 300k rose
The make it is 3 million

>>54610548
>The highest rose can reach next bull is like 30 cents
Even an upgrade in the middle of the bear market was enough to get it to 57 cents. I'd be extremely surprised if it didn't reach at least $2 at peak bull.

>>54605670
didnt read any of this garbage thread. ill throw you a bone, noisegpt.

>>54610575
I’m sorry but I don’t think you quite understand how supply works
It was barely able to reach 57 cents during the broad alt season, when a lot of other coins also peaked, and it had half of the supply it has now, and during the actual bull it will actually be 3 times the supply it had during the peak.
Now… show me 10 coins aside from BTC and ETH that survived 2 bulls and were able to clear ATH on their second bull. I’ll wait.

>>54610629
>the broad alt season
We had an alt season in January 2022?

Sorry if this is a stupid question but this is the first time I'm reading about Oasis and I'm not really sure I got it right... so here's the question - can I actually use it to preserve privacy of smart contract's function's calldata?

Example use case - a "credit score" dapp:
- web3 interface where user grants access to their bank account via Plaid / open banking
- access token is sent to the smart contract by calling a public function using metamask
- smart contract calls an oracle with the access token
- oracle uses Plaid to fetch bank balance and returns it to the smart contract
- smart contract generates an NFT saying "owner of this NFT has $9999 in his bank account as of 2023-04-15T12:34:56Z" or something

The confidentiality inside the oracle is a separate problem (needs Town Crier, fuck you Sergery for not implementing it for 5 years), but does Oasis solve this problem in all other steps of the process?

>>54610870
>Cipher ParaTime, the confidential smart contract ParaTime, holds the features that Oasis is known for — privacy-preserving smart contracts. As with Emerald, it boasts high throughput, instant finality, and low fees with added privacy-preserving features. Cipher enables DEX’s to stop front-running transactions, NFT users to protect their assets privately, and can potentially unlock trillions in credit and lending markets from traditional finance.
From their documentation. https://docs.oasis.io/general/oasis-network/why-oasis/

Will we see 5c and lower again? im not ready for the bullrun yet bros, which is the best argument why we could see a bullrun now, none expects it

>>54612768
There’s none. Unless this faggot stays in power, we aren’t seeing another bull run. Also, crypto is still fresh on everyone’s mind. I’m not buying this shit until we go back to 5 cents

I have many rosies. Expecting $1 at least.

>>54613393
Tranny

Can someone update this with accurate stats

>>54605670
iExec RLC does all of this and did it first. Kek newfag.

I almost fell for iexec. And almost fell for rose. Thank god my bag isn’t being shilled on 4chan. Search provides zero results. Amen.

OHHHHHHHHHHH

>>54614718
it's hard to get an accurate count of the wallets because the tokens earned from staking aren't shown on the explorer. people have been staking for multiple years by now so they actually have a lot more tokens than what you can see on the explorer. my best guess is 100k is probably in the top 10% now.

>>54615249
>pick some stupid fucking pathetic top 3000 coin
>thank god biz isn’t shilling my garbage. Whew I’m safe.

8c waiting room bros

Kek the idea that we’d ever hit $1 is ludicrous. The amount of baggies on tg, discord and biz holding fat stacks desperate to reclaim their 2021 losses , the sell pressure would be too immense. Dumping my 5m at .30 and never looking back

>>54616357
They(you) will sell at 30c and rebuy at 60c

>>54610870
Not buying your bags faggot

>>54615922
That isn't correct.
>https://www.oasisscan.com/accounts
250K accounts
20 per page
1M+ ROSE accounts end page 19: 20x19+8= 388 accounts hold 1M+
250,000/388=644
100/644 = 1M+ is top 0.15%
...
200K+ ROSE accounts end on page 57
>20x57+3 = 1,143 accounts hold 200K+
>250,000/1,143=218
>100/218= 200K+ holders are top 0.45%
Same equation all you have to do is find what page those accounts end on

>>54617389
Damn there seems to be a lot of small wallets, either jeets or maybe dust wallets? Even 40k is still in the top 1.5%

>>54617389
>>54617516
At around page 5k, empty wallets start, which means more than half of the 250k wallets are empty, so you can double these percentages

>>54608531
Based

>>54617548
No, a wallet is a wallet regardless of whether the amount is dust or not. Nobody would exclude bitcoin dust wallets when calculating percentage rates, it doesn't change for ROSE just because its outside the top 100 by market cap.

>>54617631
Dust is dust, but the amount after page 5k is zero point zero, atleast displayed as such

>>54617704
Doesnt matter, if it had a balance at one point that makes it a valid wallet.

>>54614718
I made this chart a month or two ago, it was pretty accurate at the time; still fairly reliable as a general idea.

My rosies stay cozy

>>54606127
>It's the tech and fundamentals that often produce the most long-term gains
Most trannies do not understand this as they always chase after shiny objects and they usually end up getting rekt. I'm having the fun of my life slurping up solid gems while I position myself for the upcoming CHUNK airdrop. The expectations of its RiskFi model are high af. The next few years will be amazing, I can feel it.

>>54605670
Has a woman ever lead an inovative and lucrative project in the history of mankind, nevermind crypto?

>>54619709