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Get another job. Work culture varies a lot. I'm an engineer as well and all of my coworkers are like minded individuals (on the spectrum). Enjoyable.

>>54600097
Have kids

> You need a social network
>The world you live in is highly individualised antisocial and mobile
>People generally have no clue about what to do, are avoidant of each other and have weak social and emotional skills
>Are stressed out, overworked and narcissistic
>Communities are dissolved
>Online environment only breeds more hate
>Building new relationships takes a long time

>>54600279
Needs a social network for that

watch this video faggot, and find something else to not give up on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic0uc1ugEsY

>>54600097
There is value in studying and doing well in school. Congratulations - you now know how to sit down and learn something new. Continue to use that skill and confidence to learn more throughout your life, and apply it to solve problems in the real world.

STEM is great, but you had tunnel vision for a few years. You forgot that an important part of life is the people you meet and the relationships you build. That's okay, you finally opened up your eyes, and now you can start working on that aspect of your life.

There are people who went the complete opposite way, and although they met a lot of people, those people have seen that that very social individual is not reliable in getting work done.
It's easy to make relationships with people - the main thing you have to do is keep your word with people. If you make a promise, keep it. If someone needs help, help them. Be generous, and when people do things, try not to take their actions too personally, and try not to make assumptions, good or bad.
You're an adult now, so worthwhile people aren't necessarily drinking buddies or frat bros, it's people who are looking for someone that does not lie and helps them grow. Granted, you have to go to social events like bars, concerts, museums, theatres, and what not to meet people, but you don't have to be some party animal to make friends.
If you're educated and reliable, you'll be able to make friends. Then, the next step is taking risks and trusting people. Sometimes, you will get burned. That's just a part of life - even if you hide in your room, someone close to you will burn you eventually.
You can volunteer at places, or go out to things you like on the weekends. If you like card games, go to weekly tournaments. If you like food, go to restaurants or some shit. If you like plays, go to nice theatres and talk to people during the intermission.
If you start to view people as eternal beings with souls, it will change your interactions.

>>54600097
Wait until you realise even success is bullshit

>>54600603
>Congratulations - you now know how to sit down and learn something new.
You really don't thought. You know how to sit and be a good goy while you have someone else teach you, and it takes you 4 years minimum.
If you want to actually learn how to learn something, you don't go to college. Smart people do not go to college. Especially for a trade. Get something that is an actual skill that's inherently useful and will always be needed. You should be able to use it in your daily life, it shouldn't be exclusive to any one company or product, and you should be able to monetize it and start your own business doing it if you wish.
IE: Car mechanic, electrician
Not: PLC programmer in a factory

take a trip to asia and fuck some asian whores

>>54600857
>You really don't thought. You know how to sit and be a good goy while you have someone else teach you

>>54600097
>life turns out to be about social connections and no-one cares if you have technical skills
Sad but true. You could be the hardest, most productive employee in the company, but mainly keep to yourself because:
>go to work
>get paid
>go home
mentality. Yet the laziest of fucks can get away with doing fuckall all while getting paid the same because he makes the manager laugh

>>54600857
No professor teaches you anything. Plenty of smart people and successful people graduate from college, but that isn't their top accomplishment. It was just a stepping stone in their life.
I didn't learn much from my lectures - but I did learn that I could sit down, read a book, solve problems, and do better than the people in my class. Granted, my current job is no longer in chemistry, but it has given me to confidence to know that I can literally learn anything I want to.

I don't think there are many rich car mechanics or electricians... granted, they may be happy with their lives, but It's pretty foolish to use generic blue collar jobs as your argument that smart people do not go to college.
Yes, there are cases of people dropping out and becoming incredibly rich, and there are many cases of people graduating college and becoming incredibly rich.
If you leave the US, you'll see the benefit of having your bachelors degree. Especially when it's in a field people know is challenging.
But yeah, you're right that you can make good money from learning a trade. But that's not the point, the point is that this guy went to college for four years, studied hard, and is worried that he wasted his time. He didn't waste his time, but he has to realize he's on an endless staircase. He's higher up on the staircase he once was, but he has to keep climbing. Getting a degree is perfectly fine and won't ever hurt him (unless if he has insurmountable debt), but now he has to continue learning new things. The grind (or staircase) is never finished until we are dead.

>>54600934
>no professors teach you anything
that is not entirely true. Sometimes, they can teach you a valuable life lesson. But other than that, they usually don't help at all. Most of the knowledge we took tests for is lost, but if we saw it again we would remember quickly and understand it.
I went to uni and It was one of the best decisions of my life.

READ

Crime and Punishment
Will to power
48 Laws of Power
12 Rules for life
Art of seduction

APPLY THE PRINCIPLES

>>54600934
Your problem is thinking on paper salary is the most important. Blue collar jobs will be going up, fast. STEM is being taken over by AI rapidly. Where do you see your average person in STEM in 10 years?
But disregard all of that, let's say AI won't take their jobs.
The person with the blue collar job lives a happier life, 9 times out of 10. They know skills that are useful for them and other people close to them, that can never be taken from them. They don't need to be employed by anyone. They can be the employer if they want. Their knowledge will ALWAYS be with them, no matter what they decide to do with it. They're not some code monkey for a specific language and thing like next js or whatever. They're free, more physically active, and their brain is working. They can learn even more to improve on their skills, and in return gain efficiency in work and make even more money. They can, for example, start a shop, bring people in with mere experience and word of mouth, and begin hiring, before you know it theyre a multi millionaire and it is a satisfying one.

>>54601100
>They know skills that are useful for them and other people close to them, that can never be taken from them. They don't need to be employed by anyone. They can be the employer if they want. Their knowledge will ALWAYS be with them, no matter what they decide to do with it.
>They can, for example, start a shop, bring people in with mere experience and word of mouth, and begin hiring, before you know it theyre a multi millionaire and it is a satisfying one.
lmao this is some next-level cope, holy shit

>>54601100
in my day to day life, I see absolutely no proof of what you're talking about.
I am not saying paper salary is most important, I don't think I ever wrote the word salary. Going to university literally puts you in a higher class.
It's great that you think so highly of blue collar workers, and yes they are completely necessary. The idea that they're free is something you completely pulled out of your ass.
The idea that all blue collar workers are physically active and in shape/healthy is also something you pulled out of your ass.. The idea that many blue collar workers start a shop is an idea that does not happen frequently. Yes, it happens in some cases.
Anyone can learn to improve their skills, gain efficiency, and make more money. None of that is related to going to university or not.
If you're going to go to uni, a STEM degree is probably the most useful degree. If the guy spend 100k on a liberal arts degree and made no social connections, I'd call him a retard.
What i said was most important was he learned he can learn anything, and he has a degree to prove to people that he is responsible and educated. This will help in business relations and is a part of personal growth.
>Before you know it they're a multimillionaire
You really are talking about a small, small minority of blue collar workers. Yes they exist, but most of the uneducated, blue collar workers I know do not fit this description at all. Next time you go to walmart, the gas station, a car mechanic, or contact a plumber, HVAC company, or even an electrician, take note of what you see and what you are describing here. They're not the same people.

>>54600097

Congratulations! You've finally realized nepotism is more important than merit.

>>54601136
desk wagie cope

>he fell for the STEM meme
America's economy is fake and all professional jobs are just gibs to friends. Do you really think being some IT guy answering emails all day is really that productive?

>>54600097
Getting a degree is the important part. The rest is irrelevant.

>>54600136
Same experience, although almost everyone at my workplace is 30+ and it seems like less and less young people are getting into white collar jobs (at least here in the EU). I kinda enjoy socialising in the office tho even if I'm an incel loner and I really like the 40 year old MILFs there

Being neurotypical is the most important thing when it comes to any kind of interaction with other people. be it getting girls or working in a company with other people.

That's why we all cope that we're le epic lone wolf sigma males, when in reality we're just thrown to the very bottom of any social ladder we tried to get in since most of us are not neurotypical, it is what it is.