/biz/ - Business & Finance

Young people are just far lazier than we used to be

>>54559644
>spend 8 hours+ per day trying to tard wrangle boomers who make at least 5 times their salary instead of living a fulfilling life
Yeah I wonder what's going on here.

>>54559699
Working hard actually had concrete benefits in the past. Companies rewarded loyalty, houses were affordable, the internet hadn't ruined dating yet so the prospect of getting married and having a family was actually attainable...

>>54559644
>why dont young people want to work as hard as their parents for a fraction of the reward?

just let me work 3 days a week instead of 5. please. that's all i ask.

I was listening to the radio on the way home and some ghoul was telling companies to hire boomers because they're easy to exploit while zoomers and millennials will actually complain if you treat them like shit

>>54559644
>labor of any sort, except for a handful of golden goose careers like comp sci and medicine, becomes increasingly devalued relative to a skyrocketing cost of living
>the decade of 0% interest gibs comes to an end
>the absence of cheap capital and an increasingly competitive and globalized business landscape reveals that senior leadership geniuses of the past 1-2 decades have been nothing but complete retards
>senior leadership panics and makes a hail mary move to pump margins in the scummiest ways imaginable, by cracking the whip even harder and gaslighting with 3% cost of living raises in light of sustained """6%""" YoY inflation (really 10-15% YoY.)
>the one saving grace of the past 3 years for white collar workers, work from home, is slowly being clawed back.
hmm yes, i have no idea why people hate their jobs.

>>54559699
Why would young people want to work when they aren't being rewarded for their efforts

Working hard is a meme.

t. oldfag

>>54560351
They're the ones choosing to work. If they don't like it then too bad.

>>54559707
Good description.

>>54559761
>just let me not be a slave whaaaaa
NOPE, slave or be homeless haha

>>54559644
They're just going to triple immigration teebeeayych.

>>54559699

>>54559699
i cannot imagine what it must be like to live with such a tiny fuckin brain in the noggin like you man, must be rough.

It isn't about "not wanting to work". It's moreso that people are seeing söyciety for what it truly is. Futureless. Whether that be climate change, lack of a female partner, or becoming a minority in one's own country. It isn't just the fact that they'll never be able to retire from wages. It goes far deeper than that. The ones who set up this society are to blame.

>>54561148
Probably this. They don't want to fix the underlying issues that would help the native population be productive and have hope again.

>>54559644
I can't even get a job after hundreds of applications. I would love an easy comfy basic bitch office job but no one will hire me.

>>54559644
Corporate culture is soulless and gay. Idk maybe I'm different because I come here and have been on /pol/ for over 11 years, but I hate this faggot loving shit. I don't want a work family I don't want to synergize I don't want your corporate PC bullshit, I don't want to socialize I just want to do my fucking job and get a paycheck. Let's make money and fuck off at the end of the day.

>>54559644
If I work hard they just dump more work on me

>>54561095
This, life is all about luck. We all get a gigalucky chance once or twice a decade. How you deal with that chance, that's the real test. Squander them all, and you're done

>>54563135
You need to fix your resume if you can't get hired after 100s of applications.

>>54561148
Competent workforces are actually in short supply now. We've hit critical mass where infrastructure and services are just simply not working because
>3rd worlders don't have the skills, knowledge or IQ to maintain or develop these systems
>Boomers don't want to train younger generations to have these skills

Like as an immigrant today, would you really drop everything you have to go earn dollars in niggerville, USA?
Why? You can't buy anything with it.
Even thirdies have a better quality of life in their own country
At this point you would need to hire fucking workers from Somalia to get them to bother doing this slave wage shit and that's like herding cats

>>54563354
Should he be a trans woman, trans nigger, or both next time he submits it?
So many job listings are fake or white men are just locked out of them.
Fuck you and fuck all these companies and fuck the govt.

>>54559644
i do work but im not putting in 100% for a soulless corporation who will fire me for a bottom line

>>54559720
I'm sorry to say but thats a cope. Companies don't reward loyalty, that's true. But that just means you need to job hop every couple years or so for more pay and career growth.

Houses are expensive, but if you can quit being a consumer you can save enough for a house if you make saving a priority. Live with family if you can, get room mates if you rent, get your income up, live a simpler life don't spend on unnecessary goods, find pleasure in simpler activities that aren't expensive. Move away from HCOL areas, live in cheaper cities.

Online dating does suck, but you can make it work if you try. Use services with lots of info on profiles, not tinder. Use a service that lets you message people or send previews without paying money. Find accounts with genuinely interesting people, tell them they are interesting and why, engage them on topics they care about on the first message. Act like you are just chatting with a friend. Arrange an IRL date as fast as possible because you want to get to know them. Pick the date location so they can't be indecisive. Have an open mind about the sort of person you want to date. You are single, you don't know what you want or else you'd already have it. Do this enough and you will find a suitable partner.

Or you can be a broke and sad forever and never make the changes to get where you want to be.

>>54563448
So you agree with him that companies treat workers like shit instead of rewarding loyalty, housing has gotten expensive as fuck, and online dating sucks yet you say he’s coping.
Enjoy your shithouse in the ghetto with a fat bitch with kids from 5 other men. Have an open mind, anon! She could have a nice personality, and that crackden could be a nice fixer-upper.

>>54563448
Yeah don't do any of this

Steal as much wealth as you can and leave the united states while you still can cash out your dollars

>>54563448
You’re full of shit
Boomers used to make as much as we do now, and houses were like 1/5th to 1/10th the price
Literally fucking kill yourself

>>54559644
Because they are single and sexless

>>54561113
They don't like it, and they aren't working
That's the point retard

>>54559644
Dude most Zoomers are fat and mentally ill, social media, porn and gayming has melted their brains. They have no technical knowledge or sophistication, are literally low IQ.

>>54562910
probably not as rough as being a wage slave in anno domini 2023

>>54563554
Reason for that is their 10 hr screen time.

I'm 30 and feel this way. That being said I'm not so disillusioned that I think I should get anything for free or be miserable for misery's sake. I just treat my work as purely transactional, providing a service in return for a paycheck. I agree with >>54563215 in that most of these supposed norms are just really gay and desu I wouldn't associate with most of my coworkers if not for us working together.

Separately but to the same point - I don't actually find most industry to be all that interesting or exciting. I feel like in decades past people were excited about pursuing their professions and would invest in their development within that field, but because most of us are focused entirely on the money that aspect no longer exists. It doesn't pay to do this either, because entire professions get flipped on their head within weeks so you have to be highly adaptable.

On top of those considerations, I do really well financially making around $240K annually. My parents never cleared more than $60K but were able to buy a big single family home in an awesome, safe neighborhood with a pool and back yard, always had 2 cars, plenty of food, health insurance - you name it we had it. On the other hand, I'm unable to afford a home in these same areas despite clearing 4x+ their best year. When working hard and scaling your income produces only mediocre results, the incentive to continue working hard is removed. Again I'm not some commie retard who is going to quit, but I've really struggled with busting my ass to get to such a high income and not being able to afford even standard middle class norms from 15-20 years ago.

I'm pushing forward despite all of this, but give me a fucking break here people.

>>54563520
All are obstacles that can be overcome anon. If you give up you'll just be a broke neet forever. I'm getting my bread up like crazy, there's tons of jobs available. I've gone from a salary of around $38k to $60k in 3 years. I got married last year. My wife is dope, we both enjoy the same things and we are on the same page with damn near everything in our lives. I have been saving and trading since 2020, so I have enough to get a $350k house now in Phoenix. Durring crypto mania in 2021 I made a sensible gain and got out before it could crash. I cook at home to save, I only buy games on sale, all our stuff in the apartment we get from swap meets and Offerup. I utilize credit effectively so I have been able to cultivate a 770+ credit score in these past 3 years. It is a lot, but take it one day at a time. I am not very smart or a chad, I am a 5'5 manlet. You can do it, I believe in you.

>>54559644
No one even fucking hires

>>54563790
Thats what you think, chump

>>54563790
They’re hiring but you need 5 years experience for that entry-level job, anon

>>54563448
You're being a retarded faggot. The topic is why are zoomies not engaged.
And as you obviously know, it's because there are fewer and worse incentives. I do however get you're replying to someone who said marriage isn't attainable.

>>54559699
Na nigger, we are all exponentially more tired of bullshit and will do anything to avoid it. Suicide rates arr through the roof for a reason.

>>54563645
Already being married means you skip out on the horrid mess that’s dating as well as have a second income and tax benefits to work with (unless you make enough that you can afford her not to work and raise the kids). Still risk getting raped in the courts because she feels like it.
Some anons have already went through shit like that.
Makes a huge difference if you already have someone you can rely on rather than trying to find one not fucked in the head or messed up in another way.

>>54561143
>using homeless as a promise
My boss knows I'm homeless. I told him ill work hard but I won't take shit from a boomer or a crack head. In exchange I won't require a raise but I'll always be on time and do the job requirements

Yesterday I told a lotto boomer to "go huff some lead paint you are holding up the line" and then shouted "Next!" until he left

I wouldn't change this job for even a $10 pay raise if it means I have to kiss boomer ass

>>54564130
I am Indeed being a fag, but my points still stand. Zoomies have reasons to not be engaged, but there are always reasons to not be engaged. Hippies in the boomer generation weren't engaged either because of the Vietnam War and what not. The ones that gave up are still broke today. The ones that took control of their lives are wealthy. Take control. Or don't, just gives me less competition and more consoomers pumping my bags.

>>54563448
>Houses are expensive, but if you can quit being a consumer you can save enough for a house if you make saving a priority.
netflix is 9 dollars a month, avocados are 2 bucks. houses cost almost a million and by the time i can afford that they'll cost 10 million. so you know what i think i will buy that avocado

>>54564181
Good for you.
You still may need a raise later though just because shit like food keeps inflating.

Gee depend don't peolle enjoy spending 9 hours a day for 39k a year, two weeks of PTO, a $2500 healthcare deductible, and a 2% raise yearly. Land of the free

>>54563276
THIS

>>54564220
Not really. I've been in crypto since 2018 and despite not being rich I could disappear to the woods completely for several years and be OK
>no you can't
I've done it once. I'll do it again
https://youtu.be/VcCrU6PTz_0
My dream is to go to Olympic National Forest, I've leapfrogged northwest for years. Staying at jobs until I start playing johnny rebel "reperations" or telling a boomer "day of the pillow soon"

>>54564216
You can easily budget for Netflix and Avacodos anon, good job. I am referring to the real reasons people stay broke: taking on debt for more car than you need. Eating out every meal. Buying funko pops or some other useless items with every paycheck. Impulsively buying every new thing that they want instead of having restraint. Insisting on upgrading your phone every year. Not buying second hand goods. Getting pets you can't afford. Getting pregnant when you cant afford it. Staying in a city with $1M minimum houses instead of moving to a city that is more affordable, Etc.

>>54564212
I follow your reasoning. I'm personally doomproof. Any time my wife gets down about the world or horrific parenting decisions of other kids I remind her, the worse every other child does, the more exceptional ours becomes by default. Every failure of a human being at work drives up the demand for me, and in turn my leverage in promotions and pay rises.
I struggled and thrived. I may not have started with anything to my name in the way of family or money, but I did luck out with charisma, looks and streetsmarts. So I don't judge too harshly those without an edge at all. Survivor bias is too easy a trap for criticizing corpses.

>>54563446
Same. I just aim to be above average. My coworkers like me and if a better opportunity comes along I've got dozens of references to choose from.

>>54564313
Good job reaching that point.
I hope to be free this year but fuck me waging’s annoying.

>>54559699
>work hard
>get paid the same as if I did the bare minimum
>nepotistic boss promotes friend anyway
the system no longer rewards hard work, if it ever did

>>54563135
Men don’t get those jobs, bud. When was the last time you saw a chick working construction on the side of the road? Not bossing around men, but actually lugging around heavy equipment and physically doing the work that needs to be done

>>54564341
yeah nobody here does any of that shit, we're not normies, look around we're a bunch of incels and schizos and houses still cost more then all the funko pops you can handle. yeah a lot of normies buy shit they can't afford on credit, you're preaching to the choir here buddy, we know. houses are still very very expensive and complaining about that is justified, the housing market is essentially a ponzi scheme that we're all forced to buy into one way or another and eventually we're going to be stuck living in pods and eating bugs so pardon me for not pulling myself up by my non-existent bootstraps to face the challenge of a world run by literal satanists

>>54564370
This is to true. I worked hard and basically assisted my manager at my first gas station years ago. But because I didn't have a car they hired some Mexican from California that customers could barely understand because she had a degree and a car. Didn't matter that I would show up within 30 minutes if someone called in sick with very little notice. Corporate (even gas station corporations) only give a fuck about what paperwork you have

>>54559699
32 is the new 18

>>54559644
Capitalism caused this. Humans need to band together and tell capitalists to suck dick.

No more 24/7 call rotation. No more at will employment. No more unregulated workload. No more 8+ hour working. Fuck your profits. Fuck your margins. Fuck your year on year growth targets and quarterly earnings report. You will provide employment. You will provide work that doesn't exceed the standardized 8 hour requirements to complete it. You will not call on weekends. You will not hold over 2 interview rounds to select candidates. You will not fire employees for atleast a year after hiring them. Your profits will suffer, your market share may not rise as exponentially as you want it to, your service will not be the 24/7 well oiled machine you aimed for it to be, your clients will not have the optimal post sale service they were deluded into believing just to avoid their tantrums. You will do it anyway. We can all afford to bear a few inconveniences here and there as long as workers are treated humanely.


All Mr type A perfectionist go getter "I want it done NOW" tough guy type personalities will be taken out back and shot in the head. Fuck you. Go fuck yourself.

>boss asks me to do unpaid overtime
>I lazy out for a week on purpose

>boss gives me jobs I wasn't hired to do
>I do them super slowly making shit up about difficulties

Good. Fuck them. We're not a family, you're not paying me within the realm of even *nearly* enough, and quite frankly I'd rather mooch off my boomer grandparents if I can't get anywhere working. Get bent.

>>54564412
>because she had a degree and a car
Was it the degree part or the car part that got her the job? Seems to me like any non-qualified person can get a degree if they just shit out some lucky combination of words at one point, it doesn't mean jack shit about the overall ability of the person. If you lost your job to her because she was more qualified than you, then it's bullshit, but if it was the car part then it makes more sense.

>>54564445
Gas all the nonwhites undermining white society and you might get a step in that direction. Otherwise enjoy all the useless niggers and pajeets and spics and kikes infesting the system.

>>54563448
Fuck you, the dating market is shit right now and this is coming from someone who is an 7 or 8. Even the best app, hinge, is hit or miss and has a bunch of fatties. Technology is making shit worse and amplifying the effects of the sexual revolution in the 60s. I am one of the most positive people around, I own a house, I make six figs at 25yo and shit is starting to weigh on me and that spark is starting to die. Being single sucks and is hopeless with no prospects. Girls are stupid and entitled with no hobbies and usually ugly (consider the average person is fat). This is why people dont wanna work, because there is nothing to fight for. We don't need higher wages or better jobs, we need a reason to live and the modern age is showing to be toxic and not good for that (atleast in America).

>>54564509
>brown self hating hands typed this

>>54564469
Quiet quitting is the way to go. Fuck this society

>>54563645
Do you not understand that what you did is exceptional, and you just BARELY made enough money to afford a house and live a middle-class life?
Not everyone is as exceptional as you, and that's the entire point. Every generation prior, if you were exceptional, you got to be rich. When you were average, and you didn't go to college, or maybe you just wanted to try stuff out for a while to figure out your life, you still made enough and had plenty of opportunities to afford a house and live comfortably.

Now, if you're average and unexceptional, you can't afford anything. Ever since I got out of the military in 2016 it's just been a constant struggle to keep my head barely above water.

>>54564346
Fair enough, depends on the person you are criticizing. Many people are given the tools to succeed and sabatoge themselves anyway. But for those who have very few tools, they have to use what they have. It's rough, but still doable. Even charisma can be developed if you have the drive.

>>54564526
I won’t post my hands for you schlomo.

>>54563448
>Everything is worse than before but you're not dead (yet) so bootstraps and a firm handshake!

>>54563448
>You are single, you don't know what you want or else you'd already have it.
kek, if only life was based on simply making decisions. Also implying people who aren't single have it all figured out, they're just as fucking stupid and clueless in a lot of cases.

>>54564524
Well spoken. Wished boomer niggers could understand this instead of acting all superior to us and bragging about having a job at 13 years old and moving out into a house at 18 and starting a family mid 20s because of their hard work

>>54564493
I think it was the car. Corporate expected assistant managers to be able to drive to another gas station 30 minutes away at short notice. But fuck that why would I care about another branch? They had assistant managers/managers there. Why the fuck would I be expected to fill in for them?

>>54564493
Also i didn't lose the job it just killed all motivation to want to go beyond the other cashiers

>>54559761
We have to make you work just enough to wear yourselves out, but not so much that you get burnt out so that you don't riot. Idle hands are the devil's playthings, goy.

>>54564578
>afford a house and live a middle-class life?
Why does everyone conflate homeownership and a family as a middle class lifestyle? That's working class.

>>54564619
Its hard for people to grasp larger trends and systems, especially if they are not personally effected. Its easy to see kids as lazy and a lot are (thanks to easy access of technology and shit parents), but those people always existed in some way. Incels are a perfect example of the problem at some the worst (and trannies too) but instead we have society solving these issues in the complete opposite way. We are unable and unwilling to fix it.

>>54564586
don't schlomo me heeb
post nose

>>54559699
We just have no meaning in life ok?
No kids, No future, No cars, No house, No wife, nada.
Just working and continuous disappointment

>>54564524
If you need a reason to live the economy is never going to be good enough to give that to you. The dating market will never be good enough to give that to you. You need to find purpose for yourself. You don't need 6 figures and a house to have a purpose. I can't help you find purpose. Maybe go to church or something anon.

>>54564181
I haven't read a larp so concise and funny in ages, good job. It even seems like something Ayn Rand would write, kek

>>54564773
well unless your purpose in life is to walk a dog in the park its gonna cost you a lot of money. so looking for purpose when you're still poor is kinda putting the cart before the horse

>>54564628
>>54564638
Was it a requirement though or was it something extra that was expected of you that didn't have much to do with what you were expected to do at first? There are cases where people expect the workers to do more than what was agreed to, sometimes it can lead to a raise or something similar. Other times it can lead to a better relationship between the people working, something that if you were to be critical, probably doesn't really mean shit. I'm not sure if it's exploitation to do something you didn't really agree on from the beginning, or if it's about being versatile and an employee that has more value.

>>54564773
The economy of the 50s would've given it to me. I just want my other half, a girl worth my time to spend time with and raise a family with. How is a dating market that is good enough to give me one girl to marry not realistic? Sure, I need to work on myself more (perfection is an endless road), but I'm good looking and the fact I'm having issues means there is a big big problem in that system. Love goes a long ways. It makes people do stupid stuff and brings hope when there is none. I have a decent life, good maybe, but that level 3, is a big hole missing and I try to ignore it, to go on without that intimacy of a partner, but its only so much you can do to smother your emotions.

Kinda agree with the positive comments in here.

I agree that it is difficult to keep your head above the water in this economic climate, and that it seems like the dreamy middle-class lifestyle is disappearing by the day - but because of seemingly insurmountable hardship do you really think giving up is the best course of action?

Every generation has gone through extreme hardship at some point in their lives (perhaps with the exception of the boomers) - world wars, economic depression, famine, etc. yet strong men persisted because they did not give up and still tried to made it. Perhaps we are in the beginning of our generation-defining moment right now.

>>54564972
No, I agree anon. I'm just feeling down right now. The worst you can do is give up, because when you give up you 100% have lost. If you keep trying, even against terrible odds, there is always a chance for victory and thats why you must always be fighting

>>54564972
If you're from a "rich" Western country which most of you almost certainly are, it's really a game of wits rather than a game of industriousness. There are plenty of ways you can hustle yourself into a decent financial position which might not mean a house, three kids, and a nice car, but at least where you will not starve to death and may have some extra cash to put aside for a rainy day.

In my opinion the world is your oyster, and if you think the game is rigged in the West why not you just... move? Save up enough for a flight ticket and some point of presence in the other country (preferably third-world/Asia/LATAM) depending on your risk tolerance and just go. Government taxation in those countries is non-existent and with the internet there are a million of ways you can use geographical arbitrage to your advantage.

In my opinion, staying in the EU/West is a losing proposition unless you're an oligarch or part of the asset-owning class.

>>54559707
cringe

>>54564524
>consider the average person is fat
Everyone either ignores this or says to deal with it, the later response kind of makes me want to kill them

>>54563003
nothing to do with fake ass climate change everything to do with globohomo tranny propaganda at every turn, the country and world in general is completely degenerate and every female is a fucking whore

>>54564970
The world doesn't owe you a girlfriend sweaty. Stop being an incel.

>>54563215
BASED and the real answer unlike the faggots who posted before this guy

>>54565012
Not everyone wants to be a rootless cosmopolitan who throws away their genes.
It’s just a bad time when our generation is expected to not have a family or home when previous generations had plenty, large families and a place to call their own.
It’s better to burn down the corrupt system and rebuild after purging it of parasites than to run off and live in filth.

>>54563276
This
I make sure I stay a bit above average productivity and scratch balls rest of the time
Salary doesn't scale with work results so fuck all boomers

>>54565012
>In my opinion the world is your oyster, and if you think the game is rigged in the West why not you just... move?
Move because you can't compete with other westerners? You could but it would mean that you lost and that you don't have what it takes to succeed in a place where most people are educated.

>>54563373
This is meme
Try to immigrate as a White doc
Examinations from the entire med school curriculum plus all postgrad stuff
Plus booster every couple months if you consider all the vax flavors

>>54559699
>You young soiled brats have it SOOO easy!
>You don't know what hardship is.
>Back in my day, I had to work for $3 an hour and buy a house RIGHT after highschool.
>Imagine the stress at that age!
>In my 20's, I was raising a family of 12 and had to maintain 4 cars!
>You kids meanwhile have your video games and Netflix and cell phones.
>We didn't have any of that
>You brats don't know how hard we had it.
>You kids have it good I tell you what!

>>54565113
>It’s better to burn down the corrupt system and rebuild after purging it of parasites than to run off and live in filth.

This is never going to happen unless normies wake up -and when they wake up the power structure that gets introduced is historically not an exactly ideal one (see: weimar germany, tsarist russia, proto-revolutionary China). Be connected to your root country by all means, but I'm afraid that the country you once knew and idealise is no longer the one you live in and I mean both in terms of the nation and the state.

You're also committing the fallacy of thinking that this is a top-down enforcement. The only reason this fucked up system exist is because your countrymen has allowed it to for so long and clearly there are little signs of them wanting to change. In some instances, like in my country, people are advocating for even worse policies more akin to socialist shitholes than anything else.

I wish my (rich northern European) country would go back to its libertarian roots, but that country died with the older generation and what exists now is a former shell of itself living on past glory. I'm sure you too will understand this in time.

>>54565106
Toxic line of thinking. If the world owes me nothing then I owe the world nothing. What's that, me being a neet or dropping out of society is a problem? See this logic? Its a two way street. You can't take take take and expect not to give anything. And Ive fucked a lot of women, way more than I should've (self esteem issue, not proud of it). Far from an incel and even then using as an insult is dismissive and bad.
>>54565081
Agreed. I dont wanna deal with it, I dont wanna fuck your fat snatch. I work out and keep healthy, is it so hard you stop stuffing your face and do the same?

>>54564445
The literal opposite of this happens under communism tho.

>>54565149
>Move because you can't compete with other westerners? You could but it would mean that you lost and that you don't have what it takes to succeed in a place where most people are educated.

On the surface you would be correct, but you're assuming that your competition is playing under the same terms as you are. I can assure you they are not.

I'm not referring to family wealth or educational merits and such - those things have always existed and always will. What is different in 2023 is the fiat monetary hegemony that the West and indeed the world has been subject to since 1971 (really since 1945 and the beginning of Bretton Woods). This monetary regime rewards the well-connected and irresponsible through Cantillon effects and punishes the responsible and industrious. We are no longer living in a meritocracy nor are we living in a free-market capitalist society.

Competing in the West (not in all cases, but in many cases) is futile and unless you know the right people, have *already* specialised in the right industry, or you are incredibly lucky, you're not going to make it with the economic calculus the average wage-earner or small-time entrepreneur faces in 2023.

>>54559795
YNGMI with that attitude, sir!

>>54559699
Could it be because you're working for yourself and I am working to keep the price of your assets and pension up while knowing full well there isn't going to any of those assets or pensions for me? While lacking experience and wisdom we can still count.

>>54565410
>no nagging wife
>no reason to escape to work

>>54564808
>larp
>literally posted my youtube channel
Yeah man it's the long con to trick anons to dropping out and going full Ted mode
>>54564855
Technically it's a requirement but in the 6 months after her hire I never saw her or the manager get called to work at a different location

>>54563634
What do you do for a living? Software dev?

When people decided it was okay for companies to mandate you take a injection in order to continue to work that was the final straw on the camel for me. I don't understand how you can be unhappy with anything else in your employment when literally they can arbitrate on your bodily autonomy. Shouldn't you be complaining about that first? Instead of how much "meaning" or "value" there is in your career? I can't understand people's priorties.

>>54565362
What you're saying is one of the most common things people in this day and age refer to, some form of imbalance where there's no real opportunity for anyone that isn't well-connected to get ahead in life by some of their innate qualities that others have also shown previously during a different time period. If there really had been a form of power structure of this sort that completely negated the possibilities for anyone to be able to succeed merely because of these people not having the right connections, the likelihood of it being known to people would be pretty big if you take into consideration the fact that people in this day and age are more informed than they ever were. It'd be more obvious and we wouldn't need to be talking about it on an anonymous imageoard. Connected people get ahead now, but they also did in the past, one of the main differences between now and then is that in the west people for the most part have managed to already capitalize on some more basic opportunities that used to exist back in the days.

>>54565543
Yeah software engineering in the fintech space. I'm not in CA or a traditional tech-hub either, but housing and general living expenses have still skyrocketed.

>>54559644
What's the point of giving it your all when you have nothing to live for

>>54564524
Maybe you aren't a 7/8 out of 10?

>>54564597
Literally what other answer is there?
I see neither breadniggers nor polchuds hanging bankers and federal reserve employees from lampposts and until that happens you can either boomer it up or rot in your parents' basement

>>54568430
No, the market is just that shit (and I'm alittle acoustic too so socially I could be more out going)

>>54565155
It doesn't say be a doctor, it says be an immigrant healthcare professional. Probably means wiping old asses at a nursing home.

>>54559644
due to PC office culture we can not talk about anything meaningful to build bonds among each other, yet we have to pretend we are family when we are the step dad that can be replaced at any time for any reason. It is worse than being alone because I could feel my personality being watered down spending so much time with these lobotomized eunuchs. (I misspelled eunics and it brought up EU National Institutes of Culture, lol that has to be intentional.)

I think all of this will lead to nuclear Principal-Agent problems happening where large corporations will be sunk like the Spanish Armada and smaller more decentralized groups will take their place. Kind of like the comic about selling their tech startup company before they have to hire women. All I know is my PTSD will cause me to attack the next time I see a Faceboomer minion meme

>>54563448
>Just eat less avocado toast!
Kill yourself.

>>54559699
>Young people are just far lazier than we used to be
No not really, young people have always been lazy and worthless

>>54569686
Thanks doc.

>>54565164
There's a reason you make $9 an hour wagiefuck. Ahahaha

>>54570038
I make 53 dollars an hour and he is right, money is not keeping up with inflation

>>54563448

Either bait or you just retarded.. mixing truth with delusions to hurt people?. You are completely out of touch.You are a parasite.

>>54568469
>I see neither breadniggers nor polchuds hanging bankers and federal reserve employees from lampposts
this. I notice all they do is grift the npcs. I see them making long ass video essays on youtube why the system sucks maaaan. Now go donate to my patreon and give me ad revenue.

After my old job sent me home for Covid then fired me for not vaxxing I just got a comfy WFH job in collections making more money. I'm not working for a place I have to commute to ever again if I can help it. They're the ones who made this happen by forcing people to WFH. I even fought against it until the very last day.

my father bought a house in a major metropolitan area working part time at a department store in his 20s. He was in school for his PhD at the time.

I currently have two jobs and my own company. I have three employees and our margins are ridiculously slim. If we got sued and had to pay more for E/O insurance, etc I would immediately close down shop.

When I attempted to buy a house this year, I offered 25k over asking price and 20% down, and covering all closing costs. The winning bid on the property was 62,000 above asking price and I was one of 37 people making offers on the house. The realtor told me the owners sold the house to a bank who paid in full with cash.

That’s the fucking problem. Our standard of living is much, much higher in 2023 than it was in the 90s, but the price of housing (mainly due to housing restrictions and foreign/domestic speculation) has outgrown wages by such a huge margin over the last half few decades that it feels impossible. No I’m not a crypto faggot and I have thousands of shares that pay divvies.

Opening the floodgates to foreign speculation on domestic land is probably the biggest reason for this. The saying used to be “a rising tide lifts all boats”, but the truth is that opening up our real estate markets to this level of foreign speculation has made it a lot more difficult for actual Americans to become homeowners. All so Ching Chang,can flip a house or lord over some American peasants. Bankers are happy to take their cut

>>54559699
>oey vey these goyim are so lazy, we must import more workers to depress wages further to motivate them

>>54559699
not really, there just isn't anything to work for.
>you will own nothing and be happy
apparently not

If you faggots watched the 3 and a half hour video anon was posting everywhere last few days you would completely understand why immigration flood increased 10x since the late 90s
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-money-masters/
Basically the host nation was becoming too aware of bankers and needed a bunch of shitskins that did not give a fuck about any of it but would just vote party lines and consume

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>>54563448
Doomer neets don't want good advice, they just want to fetishize their suffering.

>>54563309
This is true, but a little nepotism inbetween the lucky breaks doesn't hurt either.

You are either lucky or well connected, thats the real key to sucess in life. Just look at Hunter Biden.

>>54571012
Just watched it

>young memelennials and gen z
Oh shit nigga that's me.

The answer is every business wants 20 years of experience for decent remote jobs because boomers think they can use AI to replace people and thus 'have the ball in their court'. Like it physically hurts them to know their workers got a good deal like "wfh and enough to have a gf and their own apartment". You have to suffer if you work for boomercorp.

>>54563309
Source ?

>>54559707
Accurate

>>54571012
You should also pass around books like The Creature on Jekyll Island as well as videos like Europa the Last Battle and The Greatest Story Never Told, stuff about the truth of Waco could work too showing how the feds started all of it as a political stunt and burned alive innocent people and children while editing David’s words by cutting out context to make him seem a lot crazier than he was, also the sniper from Ruby Ridge was there shooting those who ran from the burning building.
Fucking disgusting shit.

>>54573277
Thx fren
>>54573926
Probably should, but I assume based jannies will ban me eventually for posting links to stuff that isn't hot whore bending down for 5 seconds

>>54573953
Mhm, at least get can post the names, get links to places like archive.org until it dies, etc. Word of mouth and links/flash drive might work for you too.

>>54573413
Nah, Boomers just see that all the zoomies that WFH Mastercard and play vidya all day instead of working.

>>54561113
Yeah they dont. Because its not rewarding compared to neeting. Thats not a problem for workers. Its a problem for the employer who is going to get JVSTED and for society too.

>>54559699
fuck you boomer, and fuck your pension.

>>54574118
>all the zoomies that WFH Mastercard and
yeah I do buy a ton of shit when working from home. WFH should be considered an economic stimulus since I actually have time to buy shit. Yesterday I bought a fuckin foldable stool so I can sit outside and meditate on the trail near my house. Bought myself some nice new curtains as well. Today I will buy some 100% cotton clothing and better shoelaces.
I haven't gotten to the "buy wall posters, chinkshit LED faux-neon signs, and etsy wood sculptures" yet but frankly I think I will in 8 more months.

>>54564815
Unironically, have you considered Jesus? If you cant find purpose on your own maybe you need Jesus. Or Allah, or whatever religion you want.

>>54564599
People in relationships don't have it figured out broadly, but they their preferences figured out for dating. Thats what I am referring to. If you are perpetually single or short term dating you have no idea what sort of partner you should have. You shouldn't be picky about partners when you haven't played the field enough to know.

>>54564179
Anon you'll call me a cuck but me and my wife are swingers. So we still have to play the dating field. My advice is sound.

>>54564578
I appreciate you are calling me exceptional but thats the issue to me. I am not exceptional. I just put in some extra work on my own time to figure out how to achieve my goals. I still waste tons of time and play video games and watch TV like anyone else. I don't want people to think they have to be a finance bro psycho to have a better position in life. You can do it anon, and so can anyone else. You have to believe you can make it or you never will.

>>54559699
Damm straight brother they don't even suck off their CEO any mores you know the MEN who keep YOU off the street's?

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>>54559644
This is what you get when you destroy company loyalty in favor of “Want a raise? Leave your job and go work somewhere else.”

>>54577162
he wasnt complimenting you anon.
he pities you. what you have done isnt winning. it is not considered desirable or even living by some peoples perception.
im glad youre happy and content. thats literally all that matters. bless you and your kin.

>>54559644
Hi im from poor country and i need to give me opinion since im recently in here.

USA best country for money, you work 8 hours you go home, some time you stay extra, YOU GET MORE EXTRA MONEY! Pizza as well one time.

Work is easy as roofist, you place the black things in roof people give you money. 20 by hour, KACHING!!! $$$

House is cheap if you drive an hour to work, food costs cheaper then in my country. COSTCO MORE CHEAPER THAN IN MY COUNTRY!

Police once lets me go if I have no license, didn not have to give them money, they free me for no money.

Black people lazy white people afraid, if you work more versus them (easy) they call you things. No matter hah, they will not be live for too much (police encounters).

Overround, Americans are complainers, I like USA very much

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>>54559720
>Wanting family
Lol nigger what
Are you insane
Who tf would want a nagging obese wife and equally nagging retarded money sinking brats

>>54559644
>how can employers fix it?
by paying us the same wage as they did for our parents? (including the inflation)

>>54563309
Fortune favors the brave :3

>turn the 9 to 5 into the 8 to 6
>stagnant salaries in face of moonrocketing inflation of cost of living
>wonder why people are miserable

places are trying to offer gimmicks like pet insurance and a free hat instead of paying better wages

>>54577228
Thats why I say to not be a consoomer, you will never be happy if you can't be content with what you have. Bless you and your kin as well.

>>54564370
>had job
>goofed off all day, did 30 minutes of work in 8 hours
>coworkers worked themselves to death like niggers
>suddenly ceo decides to lay off 15% of company for shits and giggles
>draws with a broad brushstroke
>i get fired and the hard workers also get fired
>i spent a year chilling, they spent a year slaving
>manager loves me more than them because i did some big brain moves
>we both have the same entry on our resume to sell to future employers
>they earned nothing for their earnest labor and work ethic
hard work is for slaves and suckers. they'll fire you either way so who cares.

>>54564970
if you can't get a woman, you probably don't bring as much to the table as you think you do.

>>54565551
man they're still requiring the jab for REMOTE jobs in any job in the healthcare field. i can't apply as an accountant to any medical company because they're all wanting you to maxvax. i cant wait until these retarded whores win the clottery.

>>54563448
They used to reward loyalty. Shit changed in the 90s when they figured out life was hard enough that and the job market lean enough that it their disloyalty wouldn't be paid back in kind. Automation and business process documentation and team-based units also minimize the role of the individual worker.

In the 80s there was a legitimate fear that your employees would up and leave as a group because they could just work somewhere else and probably get a signing bonus. Plus word would get out that you're a piece of shit employer and people wouldn't want to work for you.

>>54578861
what kind of hellhole do you live in? here no one requires the vax ( Belgium)

>>54578925
murrrrrka land of the free, where an employer can require you to get an irreversible medical procedure, and then 5 months later fire you for no reason at all with no recourse.

>>54564970
>Intimacy
>Need
Lol
Lmao

>>54578990
How is it not a need?
>>54578831
I'm 6ft, 7in dick, pretty in shape (abs poking through), good face, making six figs, house, plenty of hobbies. Sure I can be better, we all can improve on something, but at 25yo I have a lot going for me. The market is just shit. Sure doesnt help I dont get out a lot but even if I did, where would I meet girls? Bars? Only get sloots there. Apps used to be good but went to shit a couple years ago. Ive gotten lots of lays, just mostly basic girls without hobbies and aren't interesting.

>>54559644
I'm a 30 year old boomer and I learned the hard way that hard work does not benefit you. Even in the trades.
>work hard
>get shit done
>get fucked over by your coworkers because you are high skilled and better than them
>get passed over for promotion for the guy that sits and bullshits in the office half the day
>lazy managers see you threat to their jobs even though you don't want their job
It is foolish to bust your ass, unless its for your self.

>>54579622
maybe you're just an asshole

>>54581410
Far from. If anything I need to be even more assertive

>>54581410
that would make women like him more lel

>>54559644
>Unattached and kid free
>Why don't these people want to work?

>Be hard worker
>Get punished by being given the work of people with higher pay than I make who underperform in addition to my own work load
>Quit
>"Nobody wants to work anymore!"

The work culture of dickery that boomers created has to burn itself out, or more accurately cannibalize itself out of existence. Then we can rebuild the economy.

>>54563448
Either a woman retard posting, or bait.
Congrats on the collection of (You)’s.

>>54565106
No pussy no work.