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>>54553143
bioavailability is low from what i understand better to eat healthy

>>54553143
>Its understood multivitamins have a basically neutral effect across major meta analyses and many refer to them as worthless.

yeah that's bullshit
I blow huge ropes when I take my vitamins, but barely a few drops when I don't
whatever the fuck is in mens multivitamins is neccessary for semen production, which is probably why the jews dont want you taking them

>>54553143
Sports multis are legit. The trash generic goyslop from supermarket shelves you posted aren't

>>54553143
I can walk 100 metres before getting tired after taking. after taking a multi vitamin every single day for 3 months and staying in the whole time i walked 20 miles without feeling a thing.
i tried 2 days without multi vitamins and i genuinely felt like satan had entered me. multi vitamins saved my life

Didn't do shit.
Then again I'm a none responder to almost any time of supplement, nootropic, whatever.

>>54553143
>Has anyone felt a significant difference in their mood, energy or overall wellbeing due to taking a standard multi?
I take a multivitamin when I can be bothered to, and I cannot say that it had any noticeable effect, but it stands to reason that it would not absent an acute deficiency like shingles or scurvy. To my knowledge, the body has no mechanism to signal an acute vitamin shortage, since vitamins were "assumed", in evolutionary terms, to always be available. An instructive case is the presence, but selective disabling, of the genes for the synthesis of vitamin C in humans. As far as I know, it's presumed that vitamin C was so abundant in the diet of hominids that key genes were switched off without deleterious effects. Since there was no scarcity of fruits, there also is no signaling mechanism for deficiency - if you eat something every day, there's no need to signal that specifically. It's enough to signal the hunger, and then the thing you're gonna eat will contain vitamin C anyway.
This is in contrast with substances which act on neurotransmitters, which do control mood. This is why substances that cause elevated dopamine-levels cause cravings: there, there's a pretty straight line from "I take this shit" to "I feel good".

>>54553143

Bioavailability is low. You get about 80% of the benefit if you take half of a tablet. It is the vitamin C, Vitamin D, and zinc that you are most likely to need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGhh0SQlAKY

>>54553223
this. tfw ecstasy generation and none of them work. so no, multivits don’t do anything for me

>>54553143
Eat Borax for proper protection, due to spike protein shedding, nanoparticles, heavy metals, soil depletion and hormone imbalances from various factors. NAC helps as well, strengthening your immune system and removing the strength of parasites and fungus from your body. Home-roasted coffee is also greatly beneficial, due to the freshly made and graphene-dust-free coffee. Lastly, I eat Berkley Jensen Adult Multivitamin Gummies. It’s been helping me, and tastes goos.

Multivitamins gave me kidney stones when I had them several years ago after a few months of taking one a day, same thing happened to my buddy of similar age. Nowadays I take d3, k2, b1, quercetin, aspirin, zinc, magnesium, and a probiotic.

>>54553143
As others have said, most cheap multis are useless. Solgar is the only one I would take that you can get in stores generally. You also need to take it with food, certain vitamins, like D, are fat soluble so you need to have it with some food fats for your body to absorb it properly. It's always better to get nutrients from food but I see general benefits from taking one everyday for decades so far and will continue to do so.

>>54553316
>Multivitamins gave me kidney stones when I had them several years ago after a few months of taking one a day
No the didn't, you're retarded.

Multivitamins probably do nothing, but smart people don't care. They certainly don't hurt, and there's a chance they could help, so why wouldn't you take them?

>>54553432
I never had kidney stones in my life, as did my buddy. We both started taking oneaday multivitamins, and we both got it a couple months later -- we lived about 800 miles apart from one another and have entirely different diets and habits. Then I came across this and confirmed it:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/high-dose-vitamin-c-linked-to-kidney-stones-in-men-201302055854

When I dose vitamin c myself, I can take it (and other water solulable nutrients) in lower quantities and have been fine. vitamin d3 and k2 has been the biggest game changer.

>>54553432
Most vitamins are water-soluble, so if you take too much of them and don't drink enough water, you can definitely get kidney stones.

I only take one multivitamin pill per week, because I don't want to overload my kidney with something that I might not even need.

>>54553482
>Those who reported taking vitamin C supplements were twice as likely to have experienced the misery of kidney stones. Use of a standard multivitamin didn’t seem to boost the risk.
>Use of a standard multivitamin didn’t seem to boost the risk.
>standard multivitamin

Did you even read the article you linked? Not only did I specifically say "multivitamin" in my post but YOU did too, you've confirmed you're a retard. If you took a Vitamin C only supplement for some retarded reason well I'm sorry.

i gigadosed iodine and gave myself hashimoto's.
i meditate maxed and started having epileptic seizures.
starting to think i should stop listening to /biz/.

You need actual greens powder not a multivitamin

>>54553178
Which vitamins

>>54553525
Multivitamins contain vitamin C, which is water-solulable, and can cause kidney stones if taken once a day. It is a known thing. You being unaware of this objective fact does not make me a retard despite you very much wanting it to be the case. You sound like you've got a stick up your ass desu.

>>54553543
Not that anon, but it's most likely zinc.

>>54553552
Zinc for sure. Good for the immune system and helps bring nutrients into the bones (which is essentially the roots of the immune system), but I never cared for oysters.

>>54553546
>still not responding to my point
Holy fuck, I can't make this any simpler for you. Multivitamins don't contain enough of ANYTHING that when taken once a day, will do anything to you. There isn't enough Vitamin C in a multivitamin to give you kidney stones, which I already knew, and the link you provided agreed.

>>54553572
>Multivitamins don't contain enough of ANYTHING that when taken once a day, will do anything to you
Yes there is, apparently, because I stopped taking it and never got it again, and despite it being several years ago, he and I have never had any since. My direct experience is more compelling than your text. I also did read the article I linked several years ago when all of this went down.
Holy fuck anon, I cannot make it any simpler for you. Even a retard like me can see that you've got a stick literally in your ass. Go ahead and remove it and you will be much happier, I promise.

>>54553601
>Yes there is, apparently
>apparently
>convinced himself of his own anecdotal and disagrees with a harvard study he linked initially himself
You're more likely to get kidney stones from eating spinach everyday than a multivitamin. I'm sorry for your lack of education/critical analysis skills, but I'm closing this thread.

I take multivitamins

Do NOT take One a Day. That shit gave me nausea and I didn't realize that's what was causing it for months, even when taken with a meal. Most of you probably don't need to take a multivitamin, just a B complex. You can calculate how many vitamins you are getting from your usual daily meals using Cronometer

https://cronometer.com/

My stack, along with eating healthy, is:

B complex
D2/K1
Psyllium husk
CoQ10
Glucosamine Sulfate
Fisetin
Magnesium L-Threonate
Melatonin short and extended release
Zinc picolinate

Meds:
Prozac
Hydroxyzine (this shit is underrated as a sleep aid)

some synthetic vitamins may be toxic to the body in high doses.
for example, ascorbic acid on its own in high doses has a limited protective effect and may even cause damage. however, if you want to high dose C without problem and get all the beneficial effects you take from natural sources. this is why we have freeze dried acerola cherry, camu camu, kakadu plum, rosehip powders etc as they have all the polyphenols are other enzymes intact. if you buy something that claims natural, be sure to read the label carefully and make sure they haven't mixed ascorbic acid or ascorbate in to make it cheaper. (check for 'ascorbic acid' or 'ascorbate' wording to determine if its synthetic)

kind of similar to NAC vs glutathione supps. you take NAC and your body uses it to create glutathione no probs. take the glutathione supp (end product) for long enough and you risk having too much in the body and now any damaged cells cannot properly signal that they need to be terminated.

>>54553143
like my anxiety pills, that would give me headaches and vomiting, I'd rather just exercise without eating or sleep until 8am while keeping an eye on vinu's chart in case something happens, you know, I'm cautious

>>54553601
Did you stop swallowing your bfs cum at the same time you stopped taking vitamins? Maybe that could explain the situation

>>54553902
Hydroxyzine is a step below SSRI's you fucking kike
Trust me. I'd know

>>54553143
I literally just finished my paper on B12 and homocysteine- for the love of god take your fucking flintstone gummies

>>54553206
What brand do you recommend?

>>54553214
>>54553206
>>54553178
Can you fucking faggots link what youre taking?

>>54556704
I've been chronically sick but lately been vitamin d maxxing and taking zinc and centrum silver yeah i know for old faggots but seems since I've started I've had less overall symptoms with my neurological issues.

>>54553178
>I blow huge ropes when I take my vitamins, but barely a few drops when I don't
and you eat like trash too I bet

>>54556704
You want links to anon blowing huge loads?

>>54553528
I have NEVER seen a post saying down a pint of iodine on any board. Youre just retarded

>>54553297
Eat plutonium too. It provides nuclear level protection against all levels of synthetic nanite particles and macro light metals, semen depletion, carbohydrate overbalances from invarious factors. Uranium helps as well.

>>54553902
>Meds:
>Prozac
>Hydroxyzine
>>54555758

yes. let me listen to a med-taker who can't deal with realities of life on his own

>>54556771
there was an anon here literally telling people to inject iodine and meditate here would spam the board constantly,I warned not to listen but apparently some didn't

>>54556809
You would think logically a (former) med taker telling you that x is bad news would be more relevant than some faggot listing basic bitch nutritional information

>>54556824
learn how to build a proper sentence before posting

>>54556948
>I have no argument but I must seethe

>>54556983
>(You)

>>54553178
I have pic related in OP and it makes me queezy there's so much shit in those all at once i never take them anymore>>54553543
. But I also have zinc magnesium and boron separately. The zinc REALLY loads up the guns. Boron makes my balls feel like they're ready to blow and boosts T like crazy. But I think I basically OD on them recently got really dizzy and nauseous for hours and stopped taking them

lion's mane is a miracle drug and 10x better than any supplement I've ever tried
give it a shot for a few days, might make your life better

>>54557093
what brand stamens(sp?) is just sugar capsules

Jesus Christ this board is full of retards. Good catch-all supplements for almost any biznessman:
>zinc
>magnesium
>fish oil that's very high in DHA and EPA (not all are)
>green tea extract if you don't drink loose leaf green tea
>probiotic if your gut is fucked / if your diet isn't rich in fermented foods

Zinc and magnesium should be water soluble forms. Gluconate or similar. Avoid zinc/magnesium oxide.

If you are over 40 or get brain fog/whatever, there are a few cognitive support supplements like NAC and CoQ10 that are worth looking into, they don't work for everyone though. If you are fatigued as hell, B complex supplements and maybe CoQ10 and a few others are worth a shot.

If you are really fucked up, there are some weird-ass out-there supplements you could look into, but for most they aren't worth it.

There are a few multivitamin brands that are okay, but a targeted approach is generally better.

Buy online, anything in brick and mortar sales is shit. If you want brand recs or dose recs, name a supplement category.

>>54557222
So order a cheap one and see for yourself if it's just sugar capsules or not.

I tried powder in larger dosages over consistent periods and it improved my discipline tenfold towards doing things that are good for me and being more responsible.
It might not do a thing for you

>>54557222
No, it's a mushroom and it's in the category of weird-ass supplements that is worth trying if your life is fucked.

Also Paul Stamets thinks the portobello mafia is out to get him.

>NAC
>Lion's Mane
>Zinc (picolinate)
>Fish Oil
>Milk Thistle
>Resveratrol
>Rhodiola Rosea
>Citocholine
>L-Theanine
>Ashwaganda KSM-66
>Vitamin D3
>Magnesium L-Threonate
Also used to take
>L-Tyrosine
>Acetyl L-Carnitine
Stack worked out pretty well, but Im weening off some of it since its a bit much imo and Im not in uni anymore. Anyone got any reccs for cognition and overall energy?
>>54553528
>>54556813
I did the iodine meme and felt slightly less autistic in my hesitation to do shit. I stopped it maybe a month ago and my throat felt like it was closing up on me. Weird that this thread popped up since Im about to start retaking it tonight.
>>54557083
Yeah Zinc for sure if you want to literally cum loads.

>>54556791
Uranium is not HCL soluble so its not bioavailable like Plutonium.

>>54557355
based stack

>>54557355
I wonder what your breakfast routine like taking 50 supplements, mixing powders together and swallowing 100 pills just to not have a naturally healthy lifestyle

>>54557355
I've started using iodine from a /pol/screencap ,did my research on it though and not just downing a bottle and it seems to help to a degree but gotta give it some time,what was your method

>>54553864
This. I use to take one a day and i ended up vomiting all over my fucking car in busy traffic. I have no idea what causes it because I've never had that problem with other multi-vitamins.

>>54558233
You don't take supplements containing zinc or copper or iron on an empty stomach. It'll make you vomit.