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>>54528045
$1

>>54528045
Probably like 100 dollars or so. Realistically speaking.

>>54528045
$10,000

>next bullrun
no trump
no bullrun
simple as

AVAX is a top 16 coin while being the most under-shilled coin on CT and major social media. It's the only coin in the market that's architecturally sound, Had it had the same network effect as Ethereum the L1 "race" would be over, You wouldn't even see china hustles and georgian vaporwares spawning every month because the protocol is flexible enough to fit any philosophy and make their promises completely irrelevant to begin with. Avalanche is both the most flexible AND most capable protocol on the market.

Granted, I thought Avalanche would be a top 3 coin by this time, It massively underperformed, But i'm still hopeful as long as i'm hopeful about crypto as a whole.

>>54528045
How would we know? Ask the two guys who are responsible for most of the trading volume.

>>54528045
>>Can you create a website on avax?
No.
>> Can you create 3d first person shooter games running at web speeds on avax?
No.

Sounds like avax is dinosaur tech and going to be made completely irrelevent by the best tech in crypto, The internet computer. Which can accomplish both of these tasks effortlessly. Don't feel bad though, almost all of crypto will be rendered useless by ICP as well.

>>54528931
>muhicpfps
>https://youtu.be/sOXsKy2yv4g
I literally played better FPS games on an ipod 15 years ago than this 3rd worlder game dev shit lmfao
meanwhile:
https://chorus.one/articles/unstoppable-games-in-avalanche
https://www.shrapnel.com/
https://medium.com/avalancheavax/gunzilla-launches-aaa-shooter-on-an-avalanche-subnet-27d29c6eb593
Sounds like you're a midwit who bought the heaviest bags in all of crypto, consider yourself filtered kek

>>54528931
icp is just a blockchain that also rented a data center

>>54528607
yea ?
let's discuss your "ecosystem" shall we ?
KLO, hurricaneswap, rocofinance, oh!finance, JOE, PTP, etc were all artificially propagated during the bullrun by the entirety of CT and VCs
PTP is a VC kikecoin that was "hacked" (99% of protocols that get 'hacked' are the devs themselves) which has of since been abandoned by seq, and cly
quite literally everything that launched on avalaunch is vaporware.
pangolin which had a fair launch and significantly better tokenomics than JOE is at 1/30th the marketcap of JOE
pangolin have $37M TVL and JOE having $123M
(glance at JOE's laughable tokenomics, history and partnerships / pools)
so by metrics and usage, liquidity etc, pangolin should be valued around $50M mcap but it sits at $7m.
I presume every token that doesn't have a network of VC's and paid shills just won't make it until we see a real bullrun / avalanche rush v2 or something
majority of these tokens aren't even needed for anything, DeFi is all one grand ponzi hidden behind buzzwords like; staking, APY, governance, aggregator, compounder, etc
yet to see any originality or innovation within your DeFi like all you aspie maxi's claim you have. Copy pasting eth dApps is the furthest thing from innovation.
sad!

>>54529144
>Comming soon
>Battle for Zion
>Internet Computer

>>54530735
>PTP is a VC kikecoin that was "hacked"
all funds were recovered. so nothingburger.
>pangolin
is just copy paste and useless garbage fully replaced by Trader Joe.
>yet to see any originality or innovation within your DeFi
Trader Joes Liquidity Book is by far the biggest innovation so far.

>>54528045
L1’s which ran into a top 20 position historically fade into nothingness unless they’ve actually captured significant value such as Ethereum. AVAX has what, 1000 daily users.. maybe? Or less? You can look at NEO for what happens to it next run.

Look at L1’s which haven’t broken top 20 yet and have promising tech, those will be the big runners. Also VC investment unfortunately is a good indicator.

>>54530922
Avalanche has the best Technology, nobody even comes close. you probably havent figured that out because you didnt read the whitepaper.

>>54530936
I can name multiple L1’s that exist today which outscale and outspeed AVAX while additionally offering other important tooling, which are below top 100 and have way more financial backing. I won’t because I’m not here to shill, but I’ve been around the block. Tech in this space moves fast and at the end of the day what’s important is merely this: do you have users or no? The biggest problem for most L1’s is they can’t capture users before the tech fades into obscurity. We can all agree ETH’s tech is basically obsolete, but what they have is what every L1 are cutting each other’s throats for and still can’t get. Developers and end users.

Only L1’s&2’s which manage to capture end users will survive long term.

Maybe Avalanche pulls through at some point in the next few years. Maybe NEO does. Right now these are outdated ghost chains with nothing promising to speak of. You are blinded by your bags.

>>54530965
>I can name
and you are wrong, nobody has Sub second finality like Avalanche has or Subnets or any of the other game changing tech.
>but I’ve been around the block
you are clueless.
>The biggest problem for most L1’s is they can’t capture users
Avalanche onboarded just recently 38 million users with its SK Planet Partnership, just the second biggest company of South Korea partnering up with Avalanche.
just one of many examples.
>Right now these are outdated ghost chains with nothing promising to speak of.
Deloitte and FEMA using it for disaster recovery.
Re Finance using it to tokenize reinsurance.
Intain bringing mortgage-backed and asset-backed securities on chain.
KKR tokenizing funds.
Amazon, Alibaba and Tencent using it to run Subnets for all kinds of usecases from gaming to tradfi

Avalanche is getting mainstream adoption.
now proceed to cope and seethe with your shitcoin bags. lmao.

>>54530922
>AVAX has what, 1000 daily users.. maybe? Or less?
30k-50k

>>54530993
Yea I’m just not going to argue with a delusional bag holder, sorry.

>muh 38 million users
Where are they?

Good luck with your shitcoin, anon. I really do hope it works out for you.

>>54531043
>Where are they?
They will be on the SK Planet Subnet. can you read you dumb shit?
also I accept your unconditional surrender, dumbass faggot.

>>54531021
That’s the tx count the vast majority of those are the same users and they’re stupid shit like bridging funds or staking tx, not actual dapp usage. I can’t remember what the team said, I think it was less than 1,000 DAU. But it could have been less than 100 or 4,000 max, have been having lots of convos with L1’s and they’re basically all ghost chains so getting the numbers mixed a little. The main point is, they’re as dead as everyone else other than ETH and Polygon. And I’m not championing those, they’re pieces of shit in their own right. But they do have users.

>>54531056
Buddy there are not even CLOSE to 38 million dapp users on the entire planet right now but you think somehow Avalanche of all dead shitcoin chains is about to onboard literally the entire adult population of South Korea onto their protocol in one big deal? They’ll just all get wallets and start using the dapps over night and everyone will be so excited? And you’re not at all delusional?

Do you know how many users they might get from that? Maybe a few hundred.

This is the last time I am going to bother responding to you. In fact, I’m out of this thread. Crazy bag holder syndrome is impossible to reason with. Good luck AVAX kids.

>>54531099
more cope and seethe from the clueless retard what a surprise!
https://medium.com/avalancheavax/sk-planet-announces-uptn-south-koreas-long-awaited-web3-ecosystem-built-on-avalanche-36b7bb6e6ea8
learn 2 read.

>>54531061
hey retard, stop pulling numbers out of your ass and start posting sources. anybody can come on /biz/ and say how they are an insider, but don't expect anybody except retards to believe you if you don't have proof. I for one fucked emin once back in cornell, but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me without pics.

>https://snowtrace.io/chart/active-address
>>54531021 was right, and that's only counting the c-chain. you sound like you're completely full of shit.

>>54531146
Yikes so they’ve just been hemorrhaging users since 2021? Those charts always are also way higher numbers than reality. What were there like 30-40 million active wallets trading NFTs at the peak and a few research firms found those were attributed to around 200k users? So like divide by 20 and get your real number in crypto? So yea, maybe 1-2k here.

>>54528045
Kek he thinks that it can go higher

>>54530965
No you can't

>>54528045
my girlfriend's pussy will be higher

>>54528045
$4

>>54528045
Realistically, I'm looking to cash out a large portion of my bag in the next bull at 240-260

>>54529144
>Sounds like you're a midwit who bought the heaviest bags in all of crypto.


If Avalanche goes to $0, at least we warned you.
https://gist.github.com/karalabe/4d10a879e361bb5b85302d57c193f532
https://twitter.com/peter_szilagyi/status/1567835617932808193


Critical bug that can take down the entire network at zero cost. You're complete retard for holding this aws -eth fork scam.

>>54534965
> critical bug that can take down the entire network at zero cost.

Imagine just how retarded you have to be to believe this. To believe that no one has shorted the coin for any amount and destroy it at zero cost.

I'm not even going to try and give you the reasons why this isnt real because you arent intelligent enough to understand even the most basic concepts.

>>54530936
Avax and Elrond, two incredibly underrated L1 chains that doesn't get the flowers they deserve

>>54534849
That's a long short, I'll take anything $70 desu

>>54530908
a hack is a hack nonetheless, and most VC's with ((advisory)) roles abandoned the shitass vaporware
>pangolin is copy paste and trader joe isn't when it's literally a uni fork exactly like pangolin
lol lmfao
you didn't look at joe's tokenomics, nor did you glance at their partners and association with kikes
tell me why the token is needed

>>54534965
He literally published it after it was fixed you goddamn jeet fucking shit. Do you even understand English?

>>54535070
>Elrond
It's now MultiversX, they had a rebranding recently.
Keeping tabs on them mainly cos of Ride, one of my favorite projects right now.

>>54528045
$100 max
Don't expect anything more

>>54535179
Trader Joe evolved, go read what the Liquidity Book is.

>>54533511
Cos she a hoe, we know

>>54530936
every shill say this
>icp has alien tech is 5 years in the future compared to all other blockchains

>>54535261
Looking forward to the whole ride to earn thing, will be a major boost and could finally be why I get the headset

>>54535520
They're all retarded

>>54535512
Made for the street

>>54535556
Without the incentives and all, the product is still top notch, the cloudbreakers game and many others are all fun to play

>>54535498
explain why your token is needed
a uni fork is still a uni fork

>>54528045
AVAX will surely reach a new ATH during the next bull run. My price prediction for AVAX next year is $300

>>54534965
See picrel then kys lel

Choose your path.

If AVAX does about 200% more than ETH to fill in the top of this range and we expect ETH to pump to about $10K, then that puts AVAX at a price of approx $267...

Then it'll break out of its range, but I think that's the reliable estimate even if it turns out to be a NEO-like flash in the pan (it won't).

>>54528045
160-180$. Will hit a new ath, it won't be by much but there will surely be a new one.

Honestly, I'm pretty hyped about AVAX and think it's gonna wreck its ATH during the next bull run. But let's be real, there are always gonna be market conditions to consider. So maybe it'll probably hit around 80-100$ again, but who knows? just speculating in a 4chan thread anon

>>54528045
In this gay ass market idk but I hope it goes back to $140. Last time I bought at $13 and sold at $96

>>54528045
I think it's shooting for $180 or $200. It could be a little more or a little less but I think that's what most of us are predicting.

>>54528045
$20 maybe

>>54535179
>>54530735
>>54536397
>pangolin
you werent here when this shit launched and a whale completely raped their token huh
also
>fair launch
in the narrowest possible sense sure, then again they were shilled to hell and back by ava labs, their app was used so hard it led to the infamous double """""mint""""" and they STILL lost to JOE. that should tell you how hard they fucked up post-launch. JOE had the better app

>>54530876
Didn’t avax crash cuz of a flower picking game or was that matic

Considering it's pumped like 20% while btc has pumped 90% and eth 120%

Maybe like $25? It's going to keep underperforming

>>54540276
The Bitcoin and Ethereum price action doesn't directly affect the price of altcoins. Such thing as "alt season" can happen even if BTC and ETH dump.

I remember in jan 2021 when AVAX was at $3, the bullish anons said $20 was the high target, We pumped to $60 in less than a month, peaked at $140 and STILL could've pumped additional x3 to match ADA/SOL/BNB marketcap at the top.

Now imagine a proper bullrun with BTC north of 200K and dominance finally crashing to sub 30% (2021 was so fucking pathetic it barely even dropped below 40%, Criminal desu)..

It's always like this, People are terrible at math and underestimate both the upsides and the downsides, AVAX will be $1500+ in the next bull peak, I'm staying behind my words. It's not even that insane, Just replace XRP market dominance (long due, Ideally it should aim for BNB/USDT market dominance) and let the market do its thing.

>>54541109
Avax hit its ATH at $31B Mcap with a circ supply of 224M Avax. Current circ supply is 326M Avax and it would need a $47B mcap to begin to breach ATH.
Much more will be unlocked between now and the next bullrun
Your estimations would put it at a 500B mcap within the next 2 years
you have down syndrome.

>>54541195
My pic (>>54537045) was calculated based on around 350M supply. Next year core inflation is 4.5%, And maybe additional 10% from foundation tokens.

$1500-5000 is the proper target in the assumptions BTC hit 200K and dominance collapse to 30%. Conservative one (#10, Basically just hit current Solana market dominance which pretty easy to do desu) put AVAX at $1000 next run

>>54541195
ETH hit 550B marketcap while being unusable crippling chain with $700 tx gas fees, That's when BTC was at 65K and dominance was above 40%. You weren't around when people treated ETH as a shitcoin, Even during 2018-2019 it was seen more like an altcoin than the sister chain to BTC (In fact, XRP itself flipped it multiple times).

So no, It's not unbelievable, especially considering ETH will hit close to 2T marketcap next run.

>>54528607
that's not bullish brother

>>54530965
>
I can name multiple L1’s that exist today which outscale and outspeed AVAX while additionally offering other important tooling, which are below top 100 and have way more financial backing. I won’t because I’m not here to shill, but I’ve been around the block

You should definitely drop a couple names, I will do so right now just because:
Monad.

>>54531099
>Buddy there are not even CLOSE to 38 million dapp users on the entire planet right now

Lmao, this. That number is probably closer to the total amount of unique BTC holders currently.

>>54541109
>Now imagine a proper bullrun with BTC north of 200K
dogbat says this same shit
lmao

>>54531099
>38 million dapp users
They probably will not be using the C-Chain sure. But major institutions are building custom subnets on avalanche where this sort of user base won't be out of line, those millions of users probably won't know or care that it's built on avalanche and that's the way it should be.
>>54530965
There is literally no protocol in existence that is actually decentralized with a more than 100 nodes and a nakamoto coeff >20 that is faster than avalanche. The only thing faster actually are centralized databases and small scale permissioned networks. Just because the C-chain is limited by the EVM in terms of throughput does not mean that avalanche as a whole is. I dare you to give just one example, you won't because you can't though.