/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54528211
not working for the government is literally cuckolded. Imagine not being the ultimate parasite on the system and extracting millions of hard earned wagie dollars in exchange for halfassed work in a position that is basically unimpeachable.

I work, generously, 50% of my stated hours and have been showered with accolades throughout my department as one of the most talented and productive people to ever work in my current role. I also get to fuck with wagies on the side by delaying their permits. I sometimes decide to help people but it's my right as a member of the new petty nobility to decide who's plights I care about and who I am going to make miserable.

And anyone who doesn't like it can't do anything. No politician will fire me, they can't, 'civil service' protections. Don't pay your taxes? the sheriff will come put you in jail.

>>54528279
b-b-b-based

>>54528279
based. been thinking of just delivering mail when I get bored enough so I can get that pension. probably better depending on position though, no?

>>54528279
what if ur white

Nice trips, but in America? There's nobody white here kek

>>54528304
Fed pensions are generally pretty good, USPS is one of the best gigs you can get with no high school diploma. Feds are also removing degree requirements from most positions that dont need one. State and local government jobs are a mixed bag. Red states generally underfund most positions and don't have generous benefits. Some places like Illinois got a little too greedy though and their pensions will likely crumble the state budget and everyone will end up with a haircut.

You need to very carefully husband your wagecuck herd so they don't migrate to greener pastures. I do like that all of the local democrats vote to give me even more money when I am saying the gamer word and am extremely semitorealistic. It's like inverse ritual humiliation. I have felt much, much better about my place in society since I started working for the government.

>>54528279
isn't government work just for black people? i'm pretty sure it's illegal to work for the government as a white person.

>>54528555
Affirmative action is hardly a thing except for federal government and there you can get minority status by being a vet. So be one type of parasite then switch to another, then you also get VA bennies. It took a LOT of effort to get in but once you're in you're untouchable.

My boss once told me the only things you'll get fired for are rape, murder or looking at porn at work. Multiple employees have assaulted one another or even taxcucks and got off with PAID leave, lmao. One inspector had a thing where he fucked both a single mom and her daughter in exchange for ignoring permit violations and somehow didn't get fired for that.

>>54528601
>isn't government work just for black people? i'm pretty sure it's illegal to work for the government as a white person.
^ This. What government jobs are available to a white guy? Asking unironically.

>>54528601
Again this is FUD. The blacks are just trying to hoard all of the comfy government jobs for themselves by making whites think they can't get them. I would say being a woman is a bigger advantage than being a minority.

>>54528633
also basically anything you do in the private sector has a government equivalent that regulates the private sector counterpart, anything that requires a technical skill or education will have a much lower pool of obese black women applying for it. We have tons of people who come over after getting a few years of experience private side because while the pay is lower, the overall compensation is much higher if you are going to sit in the position for 30 years and enjoy flexibility, stupid amounts of vacation and sick leave, pensions, etc

>>54528659
Ok, I'm in IT now, how do I get a government IT job?

>>54528683
Apply, apply apply. You will need to apply to a ton of positions. Trial and error. When the recession hits there might be a hiring freeze but there's always a boomer filled agency looking for IT.

>>54528279
I've been thinking of becoming a city inspector for electrical work. Seems like a pretty good and easy job. I have my red seal and my family has connections to the city so I should be able to get the job

>>54528703
Where? My city's website? Federal website? Any recommendations?

>>54528279
Based
I'm an Ausfag and have a government job where I have to attend the office one (1) time a month and """work""" from home for the rest. I can choose my own hours of course (flex time).
I get paid 6 figures and mountains of benefits to occasionally run some scripts and listen to audiobooks, watch movies or fuck around in my garden.
I've spoken to my boss twice in a month and he praised me each time. When I first started I thought I was going to get chewed out because I had done absolutely nothing for two weeks but instead he complimented me because I wasn't hassling him with questions like the other new starters.
The (more) left wing party recently won the election too.

>>54528633
Most sanitation guys i see driving trash trucks and street sweepers in nyc are white

>>54528576
USPS you will actually work, particularly if you're delivering. You're only part government employee, the other part is Amazon wagie.
If you want to get into the cushy nonjob jobs, start as a clerk and then move into management or one of the more niche roles that doesn't actually handle mail.

and whats the reason he's pulling double his usual salary in pension..
Must be some sorta retarded rule he took advantage of, plus 50 years on the job, right?

>>54529240
old pension plans were a lot more generous, like ridiculously so. Very few people who start today will get a pension that pays more than working but art least you'll get a pension unless your state/city defaults.

>>54528742
Whatever level you want to work at. A lot of states have a unified statewide portal/job board which makes finding positions a lot easier. Cities can be harder to get into but if you know people also easier because that level of back scratching tends to be harder at the state level. Federal level, don't bother unless you're either a vet or some kind of minority or have a highly specific specialized skill. If you're willing to eat shit in the military for 4 years though that'll open up federal service jobs just like you were a black guy.

You'll probably have to ask around to figure out the cushiest and chillest agencies. I decided that I wasn't ever going to be a productive citizen around the age of 16 so I spent a lot of time building connections from a relatively early age. It still took me several years after college to land a job where I could really start moving up, but if you have private sector experience that will help relative to my experience since I have always been a parasitic bureaucrat and drain on the system.

>>54529398
So you're saying I should look for something at my state level, not city or federal?

>>54528211
>OH NO I AM ONLY MAKING 5K/MONTH AND PAY A TINY AMOUNT OF TAX HOW AM I GOING TO SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Americans live life on easy mode. You can be a literal retard and just become a fucking plumber and make like 80k/year meanwhile you have to be a doctor or lawyer to ever see this kind of money in Europe. Oh and you will also pay a retarded amount of tax in Europe.

>>54529219
and yeah some positions actually DO work, but usually those are just a stepping stone to a non-working position. I busted ass in a seasonal position for like 3 months one time and then never really had to work hard again. I've been with the government for 5 years and have gotten steady raises every year and now get almost a full month of paid vacation every year on top of only working like half of the hours i am on the clock.

>>54528211
>tfw when working a union manufacturing job w/401k + pension


Feels good

>>54529405
Varies state to state but for the most part, I think you have a much fairer shot at the state level as a white non-vet without connections. Some fed jobs are worth a shot too though depending on what the local job market looks like. You will probably have to take relatively lower level fed positions though.

>>54528211
How does one land a comfy gov job?

>>54528211
>A former Sanitation Department honcho is pulling in an astonishing $285,047-a-year pension — more than twice what he was making on the job, according to newly released data.

>And that’s just one of dozens of huge pension payouts revealed in records published Tuesday by the Empire Center for Public Policy — data that lay bare the city’s insanely generous pension system, the government watchdog said.

>“Pensions like these are unheard of in the private sector — and deserve the close scrutiny of taxpayers,” said Tim Hoefer, executive director of the Empire Center.

>“The long list of six-figure pensioners in the New York City Employees’ Retirement System shows just how great a burden the city has placed on its finances,” Hoefer added.

>Eugene Egan, the garbage-hauling agency’s longtime director of labor relations, was earning $128,189 a year when he retired in 2015, public records show.

>But because the 86-year-old Bronx man started working for the department before July 1973, he was enrolled in the city’s most lavish pension plan — known as Tier 1 — and was able to continue growing his retirement pot throughout a lengthy career.

>Asked about his lifetime golden handshake on Tuesday, the golden oldie became defensive and called the figures “fake news.”

>“You’ll go ahead and say I’m ripping off the city ’cause I got a pension,” Egan said at the door of his two-story home in the Bronx, saying he didn’t want to look “like a bum.”

>“The fact is that I worked almost 60 years for it,” he added.

>While he was still working for the Sanitation Department, Egan didn’t like other workers at the agency knowing how long he’d been there, a department insider who worked with him told the Post — but said he was known as a good and knowledgeable guy.

>The source said Egan kicked in his own contributions over the years to help fatten his final pension check.

>>54528211
we're not joking when we call you yuropoors anon. You live a life of poverty we couldn't understand.

>>54528211
>>54530055
>Egan wouldn’t break down the details of his sweet Tier 1 deal, which is no longer available to today’s city workers. The average Department of Sanitation pension is $49,405, according to the Empire Center.

>“You retire. That’s it,” he snapped, before shutting the door on a Post reporter, instructing him to “get an honest job.”

>There are only 853 active Tier 1 members left in Gotham, according to the Comptroller’s Office.

>But the eye-popping pensions still show the city should move toward defined contribution systems like 401(k) plans instead of such unsustainable schemes, according to Citizens Budget Commission vice president Maria Doulis.

>“This is sweet for the retirees. A little bitter for the taxpayers,” Doulis said.

>“Pension costs are now a $10 billion expense in the city budget,” she added.

>Despite the fact that taxpayers are footing the bill, the Empire Center had to fight in court for years to get unredacted records from the New York City Employees’ Retirement System — which manages the pensions of more than 135,000 retirees.

>The figures released on the center’s SeeThroughNY online database show payments of $3.8 billion in 2016.

https://archive . ph/25qFu

>>54528615
>Fucked a single mom
>And daughter
That's based department director material right there.

>>54530055
>>54530068
What I don't get is why people are mad at him as an individual for having such a large pension? He signed up for the program and stayed on the job long enough to reap it's rewards. Be mad at the dead politicians who approved that pension plan.

It's not his fault, and he is very literally entitled to that money.

>>54528211
you trust this article?

>>54529419
Why can't Europe just pay their employees the same?

>every worker gets million dollar pension
>hey why doesn't the budge balance

>>54530120
No it’s gross, but you’re a stupid nigger.

>>54530068
Yea boomer pension plans that don't exist anymore

>>54530126
I mean the man worked 40 plus years paying into the pension. I’m somewhat familiar with the fed pension and usps is .011 x years of service and police it’s .017 x years of service for first 20 years then .01 for after. So a cop working 40 years would receive .54 of their pay in pension benefit alone.

>>54528211
sanitation should unironically be worth as much, if not more than this. they are one of the primary reasons that actual disaster level diseases and pandemics have not wiped us out.

>>54528633
i have no knowledge about any of this. but as a spic. I can tell you that being bilingual is pretty valuable. if you can speak more than one language you might actually be more important than a black person. that's why im learning spanish. as black people just take up all the comfy jobs. I'll be able to speak to my cool hispanic bros and sisters.

>>54530149
You gotta leave, this is a no faggot zone

>>54528279
Fucking disgusting, we need to get rid of all these ticks asap.

>>54528576
This is a good quick rundown for anons interested in pursuing civil service.
>>54529398
Interns and recent college graduates should consider the Pathways program for federal hiring as it improves your chances of getting picked up. Alternatively, completing Americorps and Peace Corps also helps get your foot into the door. Applying to jobs open to the public sucks if you lack veteran's preference. As for me, I applied to a internship set at a grade for undergraduates and was fortunate that my program manager bumped up my grade upon conversion due to my graduate degree. The career ladder is a plus for anyone wanting near-guaranteed promotions.
>>54529240
>>54530126
>>54530151
>enrolled into generous pension plan upon employment
>worked around 60 years
>contributed large contributions to plan
I don't blame him for taking advantage of a good deal. It's also very likely that he was not covered by Social Security nor a 401(k)-type plan so this could possibly be his sole retirement income stream. Many employers realized the fiscal issues with these super generous plans which is why they decided to weaken subsequent defined benefit plans, switched to defined contribution plans, or did a mix of both. His successors won't get as generous of a pension, but they'll have more retirement options and the taxpayers won't be as burdened covering it.
For the federal system, CSRS was a great deal if you were a lifer. However, it is more than possible as a FERS lifer to end up with even more money if they play their cards right. That said, I dislike paying 4.4% into the system compared to older coworkers paying 0.8%, but the civil service retirement trust fund is forecasted to be in stable condition because of this small change so I can live with that. Social Security on the other hand...

>>54528211
Gee I wonder why states like NY and CA are broke as fuck.

>>54528211
not for long, those pensions are going to be liquidated by wallstreet :)

>>54530209
this

>>54530326
surprised nobody had posted this
We just saw the UK pensions nearly explode, but everyone is complacent as if there is no price to pay and never will be
they will learn

>>54528279
i work for a government in EU and can confirm
i can literally work 2 hours a day and nobody gives a shit
can't get fired
i can combine it with a second job if i want, or game during my hours

>>54529167
Fellow ausfag here. Which department? I work offshore for 200k+ but my relationships keep breaking down because I'm away so much. I need a lifestyle change. Engineer btw.

>>54530952
its a risk in some places but the insanely generous pension plans like the one described in OP basically do not exist anymore, they're relics of the immediate postwar era when people were only expected to survive being retired for a couple of years.
Any government worker should understand the budget of both their state and office and also understand the durability of their particular position.

Another fringe benefit of government work is you will not be replaced by AI, at least not for 15-20 years after it happens in the private sector.

I also wanted to add how much less racist it has made me because the shaniquas are the only other folks who understand the game we're playing. You have basic white girls who cry about gender whatever and old white guys who talk about public service but shaniquas make me look like an amateur when it comes to fucking with boomers.