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>>54516045
the only thing that matters is the present moment

>>54516045
I've unironically been trying to MK ULTRA myself into believing in reincarnation because it's the only cosmological narrative I see that's capable of potentially being able to help me cope with my pensive feelings of regret.

I haven't taken any drugs to achieve this yet, although that's a real possibility at this point, but rather kind of 'acting out the belief' in an ironic sort of fake til you make it way until I sincerely believe it. I've also been looking into its scientific plausibility, even Carl Sagan contemplated it (reddit, I know).

To keep this finance related. I'm 3 quarters of the way to a Link make it stack.

>>54516045
>If reincarnation is real
It isn't

>>54516045
reincarnation is not real

>>54516045
If your karma is good, you get to reborn as a enlightened person, most likely in the higher castes of society. Killing yourself is not advisable, is a terrible sin in which you fail to comply the role assigned to you by the gods. Hence you'll reborn as a stupid low iq violent human being or worse maybe even a nigger, or some sort of insect or animal. And if you get to reborn to repeat your same exact life for eternity it will always end up in you doing an hero, so you better do the best you can do with your life, so in the next you'll live happier with yourself. All in all, follow these rules of life imposed by the wisdom of the old Indian gods:
-be based
-be kind and honest
-dont act like a nigger

>>54516180
>>54516183

>>54516045
What's the point of doing that? Wouldn't that be like cheating? Don't you feel at least a bit of fire in yourself to take this motherfucking life and do something good with it? show everyone you're more than what they bargained you would do? Come on man, get some fucking pants, get your XOR credit card, get a pretty bitch, buy a fucking house and live your goddamned life. Pussy. - Makoto Takemiya

>>54516180
>>54516183
Bluepilled fag

>>54516045
you may try rerolling the cosmic dice, if you really think your life is any worse than the median life. Which it probably isn't, considering you're using your time to post whimsical texts on a basketweaving forum rather than shitting on a train track.

reincarnation is how it is. but with no spiritual bs. look up "generic subjective continuity". The nothingness which your typically godless man believes awaits us after death is also what he believes came before his birth. But what came after the supposed nothingness of pre-birth was your birth, so why wouldn't there be another birthing which becomes you after the nothingness that comes after your death?

>>54516045
If you kys as a human you respawn as a lesser being until you farm again the xp

>>54516467
>Wouldn't that be like cheating?
if the system is rigged why play by the rules?

>>54516832
This seems like a likely explanation but I wonder what's being 'reincarnated'. Is it a 'soul' or your consciousness or what? Just like every material being is really just a recycling of atoms in the Universe that have been existing since the beginning, death is just matter reorganizing itself.

But can we access memories from past lives? Do traumas follow us?

>>54516045
>Why not kill yourself until you're born into a rich family?
You'll more than likely be born as a pajeet, negro or some other undesirable. If you were born white you've won the lottery in life.

>>54517699
>what's being 'reincarnated'. Is it a 'soul' or your consciousness or what?
Great question.

The "Quantum Soul": A Scientific Hypothesis
Stuart Hameroff and Deepak Chopra
https://www.newdualism.org/papers/S.Hameroff/QSoulchap.pdf

>>54516155
>I'm 3 quarters of the way to a Link make it stack.
No need to worry about reincarnating into a richer family then. You've unironically done it, even if only three quarters of the way.
Also, I very much relate to pic related. You'll be alright, anon. Our time is coming.

>>54516155
>tfw no shy anime girl gf

>>54516045
being born into a rich family isnt making it. the joy of making it is the process

>>54516155
Try mdma, spiritually congested friend. God wants a relationship with you.

>>54518454
god wants me to do drugs to talk to him? why didnt he make it easier?

>>54518466
Some people have emotional or spiritual blockages that formed due to trauma. That trauma has to be dealt with for the connection to hear God's will.

>>54516155
Interesting. I've basically done the same thing. I have such crippling regret with the way that my life turned out that I pray everynight to God that upon my death I will get to relive my life but with the knowledge I have today. This has led me to firmly believing that it can be done but first I must prove that I can live the life I want, so that I don't just waste it again. Now I go to the gym 5x a week, eat very strict, read books, take music and dance lessons all because I'm hoping I'll be allowed to live all over again but as an outgoing person with my priorities straight.

I'd extremely odd how liberating this is.

>>54518454
don't have a plug. But i guess picrel is always an option.

>>54519002
yeah same with the praying too. You understand me completely. I want reincarnation to be real because I want to have a second chance. I just hope the almighty (he, or it, or whatever he is, it's probably beyond human comprehension) is gracious enough to grant me my wish.

>>54519427
I have reason to believe it is permissible. Most often the bible talks about the after life in Heaven but there are also a couple verses that basically say whatever your heart desires will be fulfilled and the quality of your next life depends on this life. Most notable is the verse where Jesus says If you believe in your heart that that mountain will fall into the sea the Lord will make it happen for you.

When I die I want to wake up in the hospital when I was 8 and hit my head only to find out I've dreamed the last 20 years and I have the opportunity to do it all again with some foresight and the Grace of God. It's not about money.

>>54516045
Unironically did this and look at me - i am a rothschild now.

>>54519467
yeah anon no doubt. God bless you, and here's to both of us making it.

Just killing yourself isn't going to get you born into a rich family.
From the Pali Canon:
>Beauty results from patience and gentleness.
>Prosperity results from generosity.
>Power results from never envying others but rejoicing in their success.

>>54516045
Shit OP staph you broke the matrix.

each time you kill yourself you incur more karmic debt and are born as a lower being, with the lowest being an indebted cockroach or a nigger or whatever

>>54519713
Fuck off, jew.

If we go by reincarnation we should kill 90% of the planet so we can only revive as the 10% at all times because India, China, Africa, South America, Russia are an affront at life.

>>54520090
No, we're human and we will always revive as human.
Besides... we already have human cockroaches, pajeet and chinkxchonk. Life as an insect is actually way better, you die early and you can't feel physical pain while another insect eats you.

>>54518454
The fucks with all the suicide/drug use posts lately

>>54520117
Been this way for years, anon.

>>54516045
You reincarnate in your own family line so your rewards are the very fruits you sow in prior lives. Help your whole family tree and you will be reborn in that tree to immense privilege. This is what we mean by karma.

>>54520207
What made us choose the particular family line then? It I leave my decendents a trove of wealth and knowledge will I get to see the end result of that payment in kind a few generations or so down the road, but not remember how or why it happened? I thought the fruits were more metaphysical in nature. The whole point of us coming back here is to eventually leave the Earth plane of existence all together, at least that's what it should be.

>>54516045
>force things

>>54516045
1/2
My logic as someone who believes in reincarnation and whose belief saved him during a very depressing period:

Imagine all the things that are truly and totally unattainable to you, could be something significant (the ability to walk) or insignificant (being over 6 foot), doesn’t matter. Imagine you were to receive those things in your next life. In your next life they would be taken for granted and there’s always the possibility you would totally not appreciate having received these gifts in relation to your past life.

It then logically follows that you could spend millennia continuously being incarnated as an improved version of your past self, but torture yourself over what you have not yet received. In fact there’s something truly lovecraftian and horrifying about actually being an immortal deity with an infinite amount of opportunity for enjoyable experiences, but whose own lack of recollection condemns them to misery. But were they to recall their past lives they would be driven insane by the comparative knowledge and lose all pleasure in being present.

So you have a catch-22. The only escape from the catch-22 is an act of tremendous faith that your current life is better than your past life, and your next life will be better than your current life. Were one to truly internalise such a belief one would attain true euphoria as one could fully enjoy any present gifts (pun not intended) and ride out all the sorrow.

So I constructed my own elaborate version of Pascals gambit. The consequences of incorrectly assuming one reincarnates are far more mild (you die and nothing happens) than the benefits of making the leap of faith, assuming you do reincarnate, and just enjoying this life for the ride.

Furthermore imagine that in this plane of reality some people DO get to be well-adjusted, good-looking, and successful.

>>54520953
2/2
Do you really think a whining manlet incel faggot deserves to be on the top of the hierarchy in their next life? There’s something incredibly hollow about such a system. Or does it make more sense that if you make the absolute most of what you have, you squeeze every drop out of your potential, you’ll get given more potential in your next life? Again the consequences of incorrectly assuming that one must make the most of their life are far less severe than the consequences of incorrectly assuming it doesn’t matter.

Probability is basically irrelevant and a trick of the mind, even were the world to be purely material, then “Truth” is just a banal chemical arrangement anyway that needs to be given no weight.

Don’t (YOU) me with pascals mugging counterpoints, it’s a total fallacy because it implies you wouldn’t actually prefer to be moralised and that a life of pursuing your potential is some kind of torment versus nihilism.

Good luck anon, see you on the other side brother.

>>54520207
What happens if I don't have children then?

>>54516045
you been the richfag, the poorfag and you experienced life from every angle.
you lived countless of lifes before throughout time and there is countless of lifes ahead of you.
also it doesnt matter if you kill yourself, there is no stat tracking, there is no punishment and no reward, no karma, its a sandbox where everything goes.
In the jewish beliefs they think if they can insult god and his creation enough that he will turn the simulation off and let them go. but the universe (god) doesnt care, what it truly cares about is collecting experiences which it does when you go to sleep and upload it to main.
there is no escape from this.

>>54520207
I doubt this.
I never had children in my previous incarnations and kept repeating the same behavior in every one of them to the point my soul sent me a prophecy causing me despair in an attempt to break the cycle.

>>54516045
We always desire what we don't have.
Trust fund kids live a soulless life with no purpose.

>>54521325
>We always desire what we don't have.
and as soon as you get what you want you lose interest in it and want something new.

Its not reincarnation, its reloading from the start. Do you really think this was Napoleon's or Hitler's or Bill Gates' first rodeo? No, they have been replaying the same game over and over. For us Hitler is dead, but for Hitler this was any% speedrun attempt 7 and he is currently on attempt 8.

>>54520957
I think your faggoted whiny ass does nothing for society and it would look exactly the same no matter who is in charge because that is not what drives the human race. You are irrelevant no matter how much time you spend posting crap like this to random messaging boards.

>>54516155
No need to try to brainwash yourself, go read the accounts of children who could remember their past lives collected by Dr. Ian Stevenson. In many cases he even traced the exact names and gravestones based on specific details the children remembered. Go read all his books (yes all of them) and then think about life.

>>54516045
The goal of living is to increase your soul's level, like in a video game. You increase your soul's level by living through many lives and acting correctly through those lives. The goal is not to live a great life full of money and pleasure. Thus, killing yourself is a grave sin because you're basically saying you don't want to play anymore, you're not even trying. It sets your soul back quite a lot, you should never do it.

A soul that is able to endure suffering levels up. Most advanced souls either mostly live lives of deprivation (disease, poorness, low IQ, etc) and living those lives in a correct way, despite all the disadvantages, is what makes them level up more, or at least they went through a period where many of their lives were like that. If you can't endure suffering you'll never level up, it only makes sense.

>>54517699
>But can we access memories from past lives? Do traumas follow us?
In general you can't access memories but the way you acted in previous lives does get imprinted into your soul and will nudge your decision-making in your current life. If your soul acted correctly in past lives and shaped itself properly, you're more likely to act correctly in next lives no matter your material circumstances. And the reverse is also true, if your soul acts incorrectly in past lives, you're more likely to keep doing it in next lives, no matter your material circumstances. Material circumstances = biology, like IQ, health, as well how poor/rich your family of birth was, etc.

>>54521700
>>54521732
there is no ranking up and no stat tracking, its a sandbox and you can do whatever. there is actually no right or wrong and there are no real consequences for anything, you are stuck here no matter what you do.

>>54520241
You don't necessarily reincarnate in your own family line, although souls often tend to spend multiple lives together. So your parent in a previous life might be your son/brother in a next and so on. What makes people choose certain family lines is working through previous lives together. i.e. If you were on a virtuous path with a soul for multiple lives but in one life they deeply betrayed you, you'll more likely choose your next lives with them so you can go back to your virtuous path together.

>>54521753
From a purely rational perspective, if you are to assume "souls" are real and are imutable other than through the soul's own will, then quite a few things logically follow:

If every society develops technologically to the point of being able to alter reality at will, either all of them have died due to this fact (unlikely) or they have survived. For them to have survived they must have extremely good control over their use of this power. If they are a society of multiple individual souls like ours, it implies that either all individuals are responsible and use the power responsibly, or they're forced to be responsible by someone who can use this power better than them.

With this scenario in mind, it's likely that souls are the base representation of citizens of a "soul society". In soul society, every adult soul can use their power freely, because they've been through a long process of childhood and adolescence where they've learned to control themselves in the face of universe shattering power.

Our souls are children of soul society, going through thousands of lives until we are responsible enough to be trusted with such power. Stories about worlds with magic, for instance, are about worlds that are above ours where individuals are trusted with a little more responsibility than we are, so they can do things like use magic. Hellish worlds where people are raped by the devil 24/7 are below ours, as they have succumbed to power's allure and can only use it irresponsibly and to cause harm to others.

Your growth as a soul is all about how you relate to power. This both applies to when you're given power and if you use it responsibly or not, but also to how you respond to others having power over you (i.e. a life of deprivation with no money, low IQ, disease, etc). If you throw tantrums and act like a child every time someone has power over you instead of accepting your position, you are not growing as a soul.

>>54521809
Your problem is that you dont understand what a Soul actually is.
its just a smaller fragment of the main thing, you and the electric current in your cells that make up the receiver are part of everything like everything else is. there is no real individual souls.
its just one big blob of energy that has nothing better to do than create this world so it can experience and observe itself from the inside, it also wants to forget because when you die and briefly join back into the collective you know everything and knowing everything is very tiresome and a burden and not as interesting as living through it.

>>54521858
Did you by any chance ever do drugs? The kinds of visions you get from drugs are in general not correct and can be warped by demons (any entities you meet while in a drug induced state are demons). Their goal is to get you into a nihilistic state about reality, which you seem to already be in, so they can bring your soul to their level. Remember, souls are immutable, they can only be changed by their own will. So if you convince yourself that there's no right or wrong and there are no consequences for anything, when you die you will join with other souls who also believe that. And what do you think they will do to you when you get there? You can read more about this in this long thread: https://twitter.com/owenbroadcast/status/1096758520467333120

>>54516045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn0irCyJyJY&ab_channel=PierceBrooks

>>54521895
>muh all demons are bad Christian fearbased control

>>54521895
no such thing as demons or souls exists, everything is part of the same energy. there is no individual souls. and no you dont need drugs to figure that out, its physics and things anyone can observe.
>nihilistic state about reality
reality is a neutral field, a sandbox where this energy that everything is made out of can do stuff and entertain itself and create and retrieve information for itself.
nothing you do actually matters but of course you would like to believe otherwise because the Truth kinda sucks.

>>54521978

that's wrong though

>>54521963
Demons are just souls that have decided there's no up. Like the person I was replying to said, they all think "It's a sandbox, you can do whatever you want, there are no consequences for anything and there is actually no right or wrong". From a purely rational perspective, any advanced society of souls that has technological power significantly above ours doesn't work with these as their core worldviews, since a single unaligned individual can do a lot of damage.

>>54521895

My experience with shrooms actually helped me overcome about five years of angst and self-loathing. I ultimately realized that despite all of my shortcomings and flaws, God's depth of love for His own creation goes beyond human comprehension. I was able to look past my ego and realize that a good woman was hard to find and that she had been with me this whole time. We've been married four years now and have a baby as well.

Drugs aren't for everyone, but what I experienced was necessary

>>54516045
>accept reality
never

>>54516045
Because most games have rules that prevent rerolling. Try to scam the system and get banned from life faggit while I get to reincarnate comfortably

>>54516045
You wouldn't remember this plan after the first round.

>>54521986
its all true, but as I already said people would like to cope than face the facts that this world is an empty singleplayer sandbox game where we are arguing
with ourselves and have to make up our own meanings and rules.
basically you are just here to upload more information into the oversoul, this energy field that makes up everything that is physical and information, you are here to feed yourself with more experiences and more information, there is nothing else going on and it doesnt give a shit if you are good or evil or what you do.
you could kill yourself a billion times or murder an endless amount of versions of yourself or be morally in the right everytime it literally doesnt matter.

>>54522060
guess what you're here to learn, retard.

>>54521158
>but the universe (god) doesnt care, what it truly cares about is collecting experiences which it does when you go to sleep and upload it to main.
>there is no escape from this.

>>54522080
there is nothing to learn, its an illusion.

>>54522060
>made something up
>states it as fact
I'm the only person to exist, there's no sandbox, there's just me and everything around me is only generated as I observe it.

>>54522112
>there's just me
you dont get it, there is just the neutral field, this energy that fragments itself so it can watch from within from different angles.
you and me and any other person, we are basically all the same thing.
the energy that we are made of is what makes up everything else.
if this universe were a virtual machine you would just be another process among many. but its still the same damn computer program.

>>54520953
>>54520957
You have illustrated the principle that suffering has craving as its cause. I try not to be a shill for Buddhism, but from what you said, you sound like you would take to its ideas. It looks like you have already arrived at some of the Buddha's same insights on your own.

>>54516045
I recently went to the hospital because I thought I was dying. Shortness or breath, lungs in pain when I breathed in and out, heart and chest pain. If i layed down on my chest I could feel my heart beating. In that hospital I genuinely thought I was going to die and even wrote a will on a piece of paper I found. As I was writing, I found out I had done nothing in my life that I'm proud of. I didn't do any of the things on my bucket list or learn any skills I wanted. I was always apathetic about my life. Even with the idea that I might be dying on that bed I was okay with it, I really didn't care. This is what pissed me off. My whole life i didn't care about the opportunities before. I never tried hard doing anything in my life. I always took the easy way because i was lazy. I thought to myself and said if there was a God or anyone out there, if I somehow live through this i swear to them that i will completely turn my life around. I will LIVE my life rather than watching it pass by.
Luckily for me it wasn't a heart attack or anything fatal and i went home. I was extremely grateful for another chance at this life. Even though it was 4am I started right then and their to:
Throw out tv
Sell video games, consoles,
Threw out all my junk food
Wrote down the life i want and made goals to reach them
Bought adjustable dumbbells and pull up bar.
As autistic as this sounds, now I like to think that I did die in that hospital and that God reincarnated me into this body I have now. I will not let him down.
Also to make this buisness related I have 1k link

>>54522555
Happy for you anon.

>>54518454
MDMA is demonic.

No one knows what happens when we die

>>54516045
Why not just do past life regression and remember any treasures you have hidden, if any, and live of that?

>>54522555
>anon farted a bit too hard and got so scared he changed his entirely life
I know you'll commit to your resolution because you started your new better life by blogging on 4channel.org so you're clearly a changed man

>>54516467
>Makoto Takemiya
What is this larping weeb niggers real name?

>>54522713
>more all demons are le bad fud.

>>54521158
what if i don't know how to use git and fuck up the repository with my commit?

>>54522982
They diagnosed me with costochroditis (inflamation of the rib cage). It can be commonly mistaken for a heart attack since they share similar symptons. It still hurts to breathe almost like someone's stabbing me. It goes away with time theirs not much i can do but take ibuprofen. I only go on this board whenever i take a shit cause biz is practically dead.

>>54523431
The script is called on an almost daily basis, automatically, using a sleep cron job

>>54516045
Because Karma during reincarnation must be burned at the subtle plane before the physical plane. In fact, this is why you should be thankful when something "bad" happens to you in this physical plane: the physical plane is SO DENSE in energy that even something like stubbing your toe absorbs a massive amount of subtle karmic energy. But this goes both ways, if you cause negative frequencies, even a little, in this plane, it extends far into the subtle plane. (Think of it like gamma vs radio waves). So if you kill yourself you're compressing ALL that physical, subtle, and spiritual karma you were supposed to start unpacking in this dense plane, and allowing it out into your jiva (subtle body). This translates into the subtle manifestation of "hell", where the negative energies must be burnt and expended now of your own experience, without the help of neither divinity nor the pranic engine. For this reason, live, enjoy life, and cultivate positive energies, so you can enjoy the jivaic afterlife as Chandraloka (the Lunar realm, a sort of semi-heaven), expending the good karma you have built up until you return to baseline. Essentially, killing yourself over and over again will just keep making you relive negative karmas. The Dharmic purpose is to progress and evolve, not stagnate.

>>54516045
I was born into a rich family and I am still suicidal

>>54522982
I wonder what compels people like you to make such miserable and bitter replies. What do you get out of it? I can't be enjoyable to live like this.

>>54524270
Best of luck anon. And I'm glad you decided to turn your life around.

>>54516155

Your image hits me pretty deep man...

>>54516045
Because you'll kill yourself once, get reincarnated as a pajeet or nigger, and forget all about your genius plan.

>>54516155
If reincarnation is real…
Why were you even born initially in the first place… what sins (from the past life you didn’t have) are you atoning for…?

>>54525102
stop being a retard. you’re not created by god like a nerd programs a video game. you are of god, as Eve would be of Adam had she been created from his rib, which is a load of bullshit. god is everything and you come from that everything so you are made from god. the “star dust” is god. it’s all god. especially the energy, because that’s where knowledge is stored, and it all comes from god. goes back to him too. doesn’t keep it tho.

>>54525133
your post doesn’t answer my question…

>>54516045
I believe in reincarnation. But I believe that life we are a part of the universe itself. I believe we are going to exist eternally. This is a good thing. Life is a good thing. Be happy.

>>54522091
>I have come to a similar conclusion
Societies develop concepts like karma or ascension to encourage a moral code that facilitates survival and reproduction but reality seems to have a cynical grim
Any recommendations to explore further into these type of thoughts?

>>54516045
Imagine wanting reincarnation to be real
You could just as easily be reborn as a nigger in a desert country, or worse a woman
Nope, sorry your life sucks OP but being a white male in and of itself is too good of a deal to want to trade on

>>54516045
I wish I could play my life again right from the beginning and fix all mistakes I made.

So many people suffered because of my cowardice. I hate it, I want to change, but I'm too weak.

>>54525832
I welcome our ai overlords

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>>54516045
because you're only born on your same bloodline

now all social and political stances through all of history spanning countless societies make sense doesn't it

>>54516045
Reincarnation is real but not in the way you might think. You can be reincarnated as anyone or any living thing at any point in time. In essence, time is infinite and you have lived every life to have ever lived and ever will live. You are yourself and everyone else on earth. You are every rich person and every poor person on earth. You are conscious of your current body and mind and only ever will be but your soul is everything.

>>54525891
You can just tell this is an indian

the tl;dr is that you'll come back as a snake with no arms or means to kill itself to deal with your decision to use your thumbs to seppuku

so yeah it would take a long time to just suicide until you get a good RNG. there's a lot of organisms that can't really suicide ez.

>>54527239
>now all social and political stances through all of history spanning countless societies make sense doesn't it
No not really. Seems like non-sequitur.