/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for tactical silver

>>54474130
Peepeepoopoo

The Natural Order of Money

give gold your energy

The inflation the US is going to experience once a trillion dollars formerly used as foreign reserves in various countries are sent back to the US and enter circulation will be truly biblical. The lack of purchasing power Americans have enjoyed for nearly a century due to other countries needing to purchase dollars for international trade will evaporate and cause many npc consumers to have a religious experience. Many won't be able to come to terms with the sudden and drastic cut to their quality of life and they will kill themselves. Russians are used to living like Russians, burgers are not.

Silver lagging so far today

buy gold, buy silver, buy the cheapest bullion you can to stack

>>54474166
>A01A01 serial number

Get out of here with this weapons grade cringe.

>>54474225
its just how you mark brass dude

>>54474225
Its not as if he hasn't revealed them before.

WTF is up with the constant barage of threads on /biz/ attacking PMs?
>>54464377
>>54468217
>>54465699

>>54474130
>>54474157
>>54474158
Wheelgat n gold

>>54474311
Happens every time there is a rally. You learn to ignore them and just order more in defiance eventually.

>>54474311
>metals go up, cryptos and banksters seethe >>54474288
yes, i can ask the folks at alibaba or wish.com for nonsequential serialized or even custom numbers on my brass bars when i order

>>54474354
Even if the bars are fake, the coins are not because they all have the new security features on them.

speaking of brass, has anyone used a sigma metalytics machine to verify their stack? i have alot in metals altogether so i just ordered the mini pro and a lenova tablet to verify the shit.

>>54474369no those are fake too

there was a thread about a year ago where a UK anon did a comparison and they didnt look right, brass anon if i recall didnt take any nice detailed close ups of the brits. and security features are easily copied but when compared side by side with the real thing then they can reflect fakes. the only security features i know of that sorta work are the laser engraving on the kine bars that will rub off eventually

they could be authentic, but i doubt it. fun larp though

>>54474402
>no those are fake too
Having Britannias myself with the security features they do not look fake. The security reflections look identical to mine.

>>54474225
>>A01A01 serial number
>Get out of here with this weapons grade cringe.

It's edited, you pleb. Not even photoshop, just on MS Paint lmao.

Who needs AI when people are this easily confused?

>>54474421
>look identical

sure they do, and looks are quite deceiving in the metals world. thats why i like platinum, its so dense its hard to copy

>>54474373
>has anyone used a sigma metalytics machine to verify their stack?
yes, they can be a little quirky with .900-.916 purities, but using in conjunction with the wand attachment will almost always clear up discrepancies

>>54474432
You best show me these fake Britannias with security features on them because if counterfeiters have cracked that, then their USP has been made obsolete.

>>54474168

No need to be a cunt Anon. If I were you, I’d be filled with impotent rage too.

how is gold looking today?

Look at APMEX's junk silver supply. It's all presale and $1FV is going for 32x

>>54474671
we'll probably have another pullpack, if not I'm feeling pretty comfy. I think I can have a few slave girls and a nice ranch with what I have when everything collapses.

>>54474311
Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme that requires retards buy in to pump the price so retards that bought in at the top of the last cycle can finally sell their bags. If people are buying gold, they aren’t pumping the shitcoin bags.

>>54474130
Hoarding precious metals for the economic collapse is about as useful as hoarding candy for the zombie apocalypse. Sure, it might make you feel better for a little while, but eventually, you'll realise that you can't eat gold and silver, and you'll be left with a bunch of shiny rocks while everyone else is out there trading goods and services for the things they actually need. So, unless you're planning on fashioning a suit of armour out of your PMs to fight off the economic collapse, you might want to reconsider your hoarding strategy. Silver ENDS you wallet, not the FED, kek.

>>54474719
>look I posted it again please buy Bitcoin
If your investments were so sound, you wouldn’t have to FUD other people’s investments.

>>54474706
I'm pissed because I had a goal of completing some guard boxes of junk silver and it was already expensive af. I bought a few rolls when premiums came down a couple months ago. Seeing these prices feels like the door just shut forever.

>>54474756
That's right retard, buy Bitcoin. I will continue to fud your shiny rocks because they steal liquidity away from crypto.

>>54474792
Lmao
>>54474717
>>54474717
>>54474717

>>54474760
It felt like that back in late 2020 and I stopped stacking and then everything pulled back and we got another window (some great prices on gold for a bit). We'll see what happens. Lots of FOMO right now and if the Fed keeps raising rates while sneaking QE in the back door, all that will do is trick the retards into thinking things are under control still and that can trigger a pullback in metals. I have no crystal ball, I could see it going either way though. At some point we're going to hit a point where the next leg up for gold and silver is going to be explosive, it's just a matter of what triggers it (maybe a fed pivot in rates).

>>54474717
I think people who buy into BtC while shit collapses will see the price rise, however it will stall out while PMs run away. People will be desperate to unload their crypto for real things and no one will have any trust in non tangible things for a long long long time. The collapse of the bond market is going to open us all up to major shortfalls in capital. So much so that people won't be able to afford anything and the government will literally be desperate to spend write checks to keep the "payment system" humming along rather than allow it all to collapse. But collapse it shall. The economy needs to clear bad debts via bankruptcy. It needs to wipe out student loans, MBS, etc so prices can be allowed to adjust downwards. People who own toxic paper will be taking the biggest bite on the turd sandwich.

>>54474760
Don't give in to FOMO. The prices wax and wane. Look at the past year for example.

>>54474829
Idk, I don’t know how they’re going to keep the clown show going now. Back in 2008-2019 they could just floor the rates and use US superpowerdom to bully everyone into using the dollar to sustain its buying power. I’ve been tuned into the markets for a long time and now more than ever it feels like the jig is up.

>>54474717
>Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme
a commodity by definition cannot be a ponzi scheme

Bitcoin is the ONLY anti-semitic crypto

>>54474719
>fashioning a suit of armour out of your PMs

I made on out of epoxy resin and woven fiberglass instead

>>54474898
Think how obvious that has been and how low prices have stayed though. There is still some more potential moron time to go around. It's a matter of how far down the road the can is able to be kicked.

>>54474760
There will most likely be a pullback, if we look at the past few years. Hang tight anon!

>>54474829
>>54474866
Luckily my stack is large enough where I don't feel the urge to FOMO. I know the price of silver is manipulated and the banks may be able to hold things together temporarily and things can cool down. But my biggest concern is when we hit $30 and we sit on the cusp of moving to $50 or possibly walking back down. I know in retrospect all of the silver I bought in 2021 feels real bad because I could have just waited for $18 instead of buying at $28.

>>54474922
>infinitely divisible commodity
Get out of /pmg/ no one is buying your -60% bags.

>>54474719
Kids like you don't understand "be your own bank".
Your money isn't safe in the bank or stock markets and those assets aren't actually yours unless you can physically pick it up with your hands.

>>54474719
>>54474792
Show wallet. I bet you are a nocoiner.

If that Anon in the last thread who thought that the historical value of precious metals was irrelevant these days it's still around, I'm still curious if he came up with a decent argument

>>54474977
>infinitely divisible commodity
Why do you old rednecks run your mouths all day when you don't know the subject matter? That arrogance is why everyone hates the boomer generation.

Bitcoin is divisible out to 8 decimal places, a simple Google search could have told you this.

>>54474945
I still have 5k in paper gold that I want to sell off, so thinking of actually selling that pretty soon. I've been selling it on run ups to trade for metal. I may sell 2k off this week.

>>54474945
Don't get me started. I bought my first tube in February! I'm regretting not starting earlier and looking at not having enough to make it. I did hit that $19 dip right before SVB, so I have that going for me...

>>54474719
I know some others have jumped on you for this post but you are honestly just showing that you don't understand what money is and why it's useful. The reason humanity developed money in the first place was to solve the problem of misalignment of wants
>I want a taco and have a case of water to trade
>Have to find someone with a taco who wants a case of water
Gold and silver became money because they are the universal intermediary that everyone values. As money they are useful precisely because they facilitate trade. While you can't eat them they are the original thing you use to get the things that you can eat.

>>54474922
It's just code. Nothing else. No matter what kind of retarded words you throw back at me doesn't take away the fact that bitcoin is just 0s and 1s on a PC and can just be copypasted.

>>54475043
>Redneck! Boomer!
I think you missed a vax appointment, better close your reddit tabs and head over to Walgreens.

>>54475292
Someone's triggered...

>>54475312

>>54475292
>boomer gets called out for being wrong
>instead of admitting he's wrong he changes the subject and starts slinging ad hominems
You sound like a woman. Did you learn that tactic from your miserable landwhale of a wife?

>>54475022
Industrialization made everything much cheaper than it used to be so deriving meaningful conclusions from historical value is difficult or at least requires taking this into account.
In the end what determines purchasing power (for some tangible definition of value) of metals is demand vs supply and things are looking pretty good for stackers in those terms.
>>54474922
Monero is more anti-semitic.
>>54475270
>It's just code
A bitcoin is technically not the code itself, but the result of a computation the code performs. They only really exist as an emergent phenomenon inside the running network.
>bitcoin is just 0s and 1s on a PC and can just be copypasted
That doesn't matter because you can still only spend your coins once.
>>54475312
>>54475530
Why even come here and sperg out about buttcoins?

>>54475578
>Why even come here and sperg out about buttcoins?
Son, don't interject where you clearly weren't following along in the first place.

I called a boomer out for trying to spread misinformation that made him and all of you look like childish retards. Instead of crying about it and acting like women, just man up, admit you were wrong and move on.

>>54474466
Ironically and unfortunately for you, you're filled with impotent rage that you are surrounded by brown hordes, your guns are ornaments while you faggots LARP about the revolutionary spirit of centuries past, you're subservient to foreign special interest groups in addition to being a sanctimonious cunt. I've been to your shithole, fat tits, so you can quit the LARP. Yeah we pay a sales tax on silver now unfortunately, we get fucked over, you pay billions in aid to Israel alone and probably gonna start paying reperations to niggers, so I guess you get fucked over too lol. Also:
>Too poor to afford gold
Mfw

>>54475668
Post wallet, nocoiner.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

>>54475684
You're in the wrong thread if you care about how many Bitcoin anyone owns.

>>54475717
lmao, you're really a nocoiner and have the nerve to shit on stackers.

>>54475732
>have the nerve to shit on stackers.
Where exactly did I do that you stupid Jew? Someone claimed that Bitcoin is infinitely divisible and I proved them wrong. That’s it. Learn to read idiot.

>>54475530
>>54475312
You know there are IDs on this board, retard

>>54474466
Btw I didn't even realise that you had enough impotent rage in you to follow me from the last thread instead of replying back to me there, funny. If you don't want people talking to you like a cunt, then don't act like one in the future, little boy. Later, close this boring thread now.

Bloody basters, please make silver drop.

>>54475806
See >>54475043
>Why do you old rednecks run your mouths all day when you don't know the subject matter? That arrogance is why everyone hates the boomer generation.
I don't even disagree but the way you word this is itself peak arrogance.
Also
>>54475530
>yo momma is fat
In general your tone is too confrontational to have a chance of convincing anyone. You sound like a shill even if you are technically right.

>>54475678
>Yeah we pay a sales tax on silver now unfortunately, we get fucked over
I already told you a gazillion time how to play around sales taxes in UK. I feel like speaking to a windmill.

Coins finally arrived, happy to have my first 6ozs of silver!

>>54475824
>You know there are IDs on this board, retard
My first reply was directed at anyone responding, but then I realized you were the same retard I called out in the first place so I followed up with another reply.
If you think I was trying to hide my ID or something you're literally too stupid to be talking to me.

>>54475881
>I don't even disagree but the way you word this is itself peak arrogance.
Calling someone else out for being wrong/arrogant isn't arrogance in itself, faggot.
>even if you are technically right.
Yeah, that's the bottom line here. You're butthurt and don't want to admit that I'm right.
I'm a stacker, I don't shit on stackers, I shit on retards and arrogant old men who talk down to others constantly and then get butthurt when it happens to them.

>>54475918
Could you please shit up another thread. I don’t care about Bitcoin.
>UHM AKCHTUALLY ONE SATOSHI IS ONE SIX GORRILIONTH OF A BUTCOIN
This is /pmg/, cryptofags can jerk each other off elsewhere.

>>54475943
>doubles down on being wrong twice and acting like a woman when proven wrong
You need help.

>>54474977
>Get out of /pmg/ no one is buying your -60% bags.
my cost basis is 20k, i'm good

>>54475270
>It's just code. Nothing else
gold is just an element, we both know it's so much more though

>>54475578
>Monero is more anti-semitic.
Monero is the only other crypto i respect, though ultimately i choose BTC

>>54475985
Congrats on being right, you personified asperger. Here’s some plebbit gold for you to add to your stack

>>54475918
Your teaching "style" is not appreciated. No one will listen to you if you behave like a sperg. At this point it doesn't matter if you're right because people are so repulsed by association with the average /biz/ crypto bros they don't care. Which I understand because the average /biz/ crypto bro is disgusting to me as well.
>You're butthurt and don't want to admit that I'm right
Where am I butthurt or unwilling to admit that you're right? Even the part you quoted literally says the opposite.

FRENS WAT DO?!

Told myself to wait on the last 10 oz bar I need to reach 600 until next month but silver JUST KEEPS CLIMBING.

Do I FOMO now or will we see a dip?

>>54476085
We’re not going to run straight up to $30 and beyond with zero pauses, but the size and duration of any dips are hard to predict. The run up we just had was pretty quick, I’d expect a pullback to at least the low $24’s, but beyond that is anyone’s guess.

>>54476085
will you miss the paper money?

>>54476043
Imagine if you heard a woman screeching to her friends about sockets, and she makes some claim like "well there's only 1 set size of sockets, the metric".
Do you have aspergers for showing her that an imperial sized socket exists?
That take tampon out bud.

>>54476078
>Your teaching "style" is not appreciated
Nobody cares what you appreciate, and I highly doubt your parents or teachers cared what you appreciated when they were teaching you about life either.
>people are so repulsed by association with the average /biz/ crypto bros they don't care
I know, that's why nobody likes /pmg/. You're all hateful, rude, toxic and ignorant to the point that it's like talking to leftist women, as evidenced by this issue of "infinitely divisible Bitcoin" bullshit.

>>54476158
>those paragraphs no one’s reading

>>54476167
Like I said, leftist woman. Bet your wife left you because you're such a cuck.

>>54474719
this guy gets it
>precious metals
>food
>guns
You can only buy one.
I know it. You know it. Everybody knows it.

>>54476131
Even with that small dip I think premiums will remain high and nullify any savings.

>>54476138
Nope. And I’ll far better appreciate a 10 oz year of the rabbit.

I’M BUYING. GET READY FOR THE DIP.

>>54476213
Thanks for taking this bullet for us anon, I look forward to loading up on the ensuing dip

>>54476205
And of course if there is a recession lasting longer than 3 quarters or if a new currency is adopted by a major power everyone on Earth will forget what money is and go back to a barter economy.
Anyway, I noticed gold is knocking on the ATH door, glad I bought my first once a short time ago when it was $1800.

>>54476231
JUST BOUGHT. 18$ INCOMING. SORRY FRENS.

>>54476213
go for it champ! I'm a poorfag and bought 80 (+4 free) bull & bear 1 Oz silver coins for 2192,66€ total, this monday. Silver just stays the same, it's the fiat currencies that lose more and more buying power.

>catalog
>shills pissing and shitting and farting
We're just a week and seven days away from something amazing and terrible.

>>54476271
don’t be sorry I’m absolutely prepared to inhale those cheapies

I keep saying big news April 11. Mark your calendars.

>>54476290
>>54476314
I’m open to hearing some schizophrenic ramblings, lay it on me anon. What are we in for?

>>54476314
I already told you, that's when my new batch of coins arrive

>>54474208
More like just settling back down, its shoot up yesterday was due to the jobs report, unless more banks go down or more bad reports come out expect them to slam the price back down and to go back under 20 dollars.

>>54476367
Idk fren. Every bullion dealer is having trouble meeting orders. I think supply is low. They might be able to manipulate spot price with paper silver but premiums are gonna remain high for a while.

Have they shipped?

>>54476241
Even if some areas do devolve into pure barter, they will quickly and inevitably resolve into using gold and silver as mediums of exchange, ie, money

>>54476205
>You can only buy one
That's not even true

They're selling silver under spot price again.

>>54476677
Source?

>>54476695
because nobody wants random, 625ish, ugly, used cheapies. They were at 6,80€ last week

Guys, Bitcoin isn’t infinitely divisible. Stop peddling this debunked Russian disinformation. There’s a rule that says you can’t just divide a Bitcoin by more than a certain amount. It’s just impossible! Half a satoshi? Can’t be done. No, sir! If you even try to add a decimal place, the crypto cops will get you.

>>54476677
>anon in charge of detecting sarcasm

>>54474130
/pmg/ bros, don't forget to stock up on food and water. Also get an EV and solar panels for transportation and cooking and running stuff like your computer and radio.

>>54476868
My prepping strategy is that I’ve already experienced hardship. But yes, I plan to get a few of those tubs at some point.

>>54476834
It's still funny.

>>54476868
and mad max armor

>>54476933
Made of gold. Because that’s all our shiny boomer rocks will be good for.

>>54475907
>Anime. Silver. Applause now

>>54476852
What's the point of posting something like this?

>>54476988
To debunk the myth of Bitcoin being fiat that, unlike the USD, can’t even be used as kindling, or a napkin, and can’t be folded into a paper airplane.

>>54476793
While I suspect you're just pretending to be retarded, I find replying with sarcasm or ironic shitposting to be tiresome. If it's not obvious how one can own food guns and PMs at the same time, consider how much it costs to be 'in the door' so to speak in each of those categories. I like to think of this in terms of different tiers of spending starting from very low/entry level
>$1-500
At this level you can get a decent handgun and enough ammo for a few training sessions, you can stock a freezer or a pantry with the essentials to get you through a week or two of food insecurity, and you can start a small stack or silber.
>$500-2500
At this point your arsenal just keeps expanding, maybe you have a couple more handguns or a very nice AR. You can stack months of freeze-dried food and a couple hundred gallons of water or even some water filters. This is also the tear where you can start getting into buying whole ounces of gold to go along with whatever silver you have.
>$2500+
Realistically at this point, there's not much left to do except stack more precious metals. Once you have about a year of emergency food per person in your household, and once you have a primary and sidearm for those people as well, there's diminishing returns as far as the value of continuing to spend in that area. However once you have a decent arsenal and stack of food, the sky's the limit on your ability to stack silver and gold. Realistically the only limit is how much you are comfortable holding on your property.

>be Willie coyote
>run off a cliff
>running in mid air
>unaware you have run off a cliff
>>>you are here<<<
>look down
>realize your mistake
>fall straight down
>punch a hole in the ground in the precise shape of your silhouette
>sit up in your hole
>cross eyed
>stars and birds over your head
>hold up a sign that says ouch

>>54477023
What is even wrong with infinite divisibility if that were a thing?

>>54477106
Russian bots allege that it’s just the equivalent of having money that’s infinitely printable.

>>54477123
That's like saying breaking a gold coin in half is inflationary.

>>54477058
Bullish for ACME

>>54477155
>that’ll be 1/21,000,000,000,000 of an oz of gold
>yeah, I’ve got it here somewhere just give me a moment

>>54477106
Nothing, buttcoin has a lot of problems but the divisibility isn't one of them. You could even argue that gold and silver are infinitely divisible as long as you have confidence in the entity doing the dividing. In a hypothetical where the entire world decided to use physical Ag for all their transactions, 10% or even 5% coins might emerge to satisfy the demand. Obviously at what point a 'silver coin' can be diluted while still being considered as such is an open question, but the point remains that there's no law saying all silver has to be sterling or 999

we're so close, lads

>>54477155
At the risk of waking the resident crypto hyper autist up from his slumber, a physical asset like gold or silver is not infinitely divisible, you can really only trade in quantities of about a gram or so. This is actually a fault for gold, because a little gram bar is still too valuable to make small purchases, and dealing in quantities under a gram is difficult logistically. As far as BTC goes, you can buy a hundred millionth of a BTC because it’s digital.

>>54476933
is that fiberglass on top of a kevlar vest or just epoxy&fiberglass?

>>54477250
uhmmm... Fiberglass, epoxy and porcelain for some plates

The Fed holds gold on its balance sheet at the statutory value of $42 per ounce. What would be the implications worldwide if the US govt changed the statutory gold value in order to get out of debt? Is such a thing even on the table?

>>54477345
cool it with the antisemitic suggestions

>>54477191
It's still not printing money. If you need fractions of satoshis that means BTC did another 1000000x compared to everything else. This would be a deflationary event.
>>54477247
Goldbacks start at 1/1000th oz which is 0.031g and they're huge.

>>54476852
>Guys, Bitcoin isn’t infinitely divisible
you could give 290k sats to every person on earth, and that's not even precluding the scenario of having bitcoin be the electronic payment of choice, while gold and silver are ALSO in circulation....

maybe you should stop and think for more than 5 seconds before you vomit out retarded shit

i just boughted the top, which means it will dip by monday

>>54477345
>What would be the implications worldwide if the US govt changed the statutory gold value in order to get out of debt?
doesn't work while gold is a (ostensibly) free floated commodity

the US govt basically doing that is what brought down the gold system in the first place

>>54477433 (Checked)
Thank you for your sacrifice.

>>54474719
>he think hyper inflation will cause some post apolopyic zombie SHTF movie scenario
we're not going to be fighting in the streets for scraps of food.
the petrodollar will die.
hyperinflation will allow the jews to implement CBDC
stackers will have a massive hedge against this inflation with their shiny rocks and be able to convert to the new fiat, foreign currency, or CBDC.

>>54477376
Gold backs are a meme designed to get people to think they’re investing in gold by paying 200% premiums for the smallest amount of gold possible. No one serious is stacking gold backs, and no one is trading them for goods and services.

>>54477479
yet

>>54477458
>convert to the new fiat, foreign currency, or CBDC
Ishygddt

>CBDC
This is precisely why I hate crypto nerds so much. This is the world they are trying to create.

>>54477376
Compared to everything else? If you’re gonna be the global medium of exchange, there won’t be an, “everything else.”

>>54477520
>But bro just invest so you get to be in on the ground floor of the new house of cards!
I hate the Antichrist

>>54476010
>gold is just an element

which actually exists in real space, unlike code on a computer

>>54477509
>his plan to to hold until death

>>54477561
>you have to sell your PMs into a new Jewish scheme or hold them until you die

>>54477561
personally my plan is to exchange it for property

>trip over power cable
>lose access to your monopolycoin and RuneScape GP

>>54474130
Yummy!

>>54477479
If government handed these out as regular cash that would be pretty based.
>>54477520
This is the world Jews are trying to create.
>>54477533
I mean the stuff you exchange it for, like blowjobs or whatever. There is no need for smaller fractions unless those are worth enough to buy something.

>>54477579
me too. but itll most likely require you to sell it for whatever is the currency at that time.

>>54477616
very likely that you won't be allowed to do that with CBDC though

>>54477616
Sorry sweaty, but this CBDC has restrictions, and it expired anyway! Since you sold a Red Flag Asset (billion - yikes!), this CBDC was marked high risk and could only be used for a monthly pod payment or your associated Netflix subscription!

>>54477614
If 1 sat is the equivalent of a penny, then it stands to reason that 290k sats per person would be $2,900 per person. You’re gonna have to create smaller denominations. Also, you’ll have to deal with people in the ass end of nowhere, Nepalese mountain dwellers, etc. not having access to the tech needed to take and accept payment in dogecoin or whatever.

>swap gold for CBDC
>broker a deal for some land
>card declined
>try to swap back to gold
>card declined
Crypto nerds are pawns, golems, worms, and eager slaves. Fuck crypto and everything it stands for.

Niggers are savvy investors as they keep their wealth in gold jewelry. Whites are retarded and invest in stocks and other made up things.

>>54477247
>you can really only trade in quantities of about a gram or so.
What in the world makes you think that? Examples:
- Assayed grain and 5 grain bars
- Goldbacks
- Jewelry

>>54476966
I'll clap for him. He even has some sexy patches of her to jerk off to when shtf and there's no electricity ever again.

>>54477648
>>54477675
sell other countries then. we're obviously just speculating here
if you cant convert to CBDC, do you think real estate owners are just going to accept your rocks?

>>54477702
this but unga bunga

>>54477696

>>54477702
>>54477724
>niggers have been secretly conspiring to play the long game
>dollar collapses and they unironically become kangs n shiet

>>54477717
well since I can foresee CBDC failing faster then a modern marriage, at some point, yes I do see that occuring

>>54477717
It depends. If someone offered me silver for some of my eggs or milk, I’d think they were smart and give them a deal. If someone demanded I pay for their goods and services with traceable government block chainerino backed hyper securities I’d just assess them as a retard and take what I wanted at gunpoint :^]

>>54477759
>you’ll own nothing
Those people won’t have anything to take.

>>54474130
>b-but you're gonna have to switch to gov CBDC!!!
I only have to do that if it actually happens and right now that looks unlikely. And even if it happens we still will probably have paper currency anyway and even if we don't, even if the total meme dystopia happens I'll still be able to sell my gold and silver stacks for MUCH more CBDC tokens than what you will get got your fiat.

You get 1 gov token for each dollar and I'll easily get 10-20 tokens for each dollar held in gold and silver.

Even in the worst case scenario I still win. I'll still be able to buy my castle and my farmland and I will still hold a large stack of gold and silver after doing so.

>>54477520
bitcoin can't be declined, it would literally circumvent CBDC in every way

>>54477856
>can’t be X
You actually believe that?

>>54477856
>bitcoin is invincible
>the b basically stands for bulletproof
thou fool

>>54477882
i don't have to believe it, it's a verifiable fact

>>54477854
They can’t enforce that shit in any meaningful capacity. And you’d better believe that every mom and pop shop will probably continue taking regular paper fiat. Under no circumstances would I trade in for the tokens.

>>54477856

Oh no, what happened to your "money" ??

>>54477910
That’s completely naive.

>>54477924
>he thinks electricity will be dis-invented forever

>>54477934
>That’s completely naive.
you literally don't know what you're talking about

the fhqwhgads will be mine

>>54477944
You literally think that there’s software that is immune to tampering or interference by governments that have billion dollar budgets for IT bullshit.

>>54477536
Information also exists in real space because it must be recorded somewhere. There's even physical a limit to how much can be stored in a certain amount of space.
>>54477694
Why would 290k sats per person not enough? You're just thinking in dollars at current price.
>>54477924
It's still there when you move to a non shithole with working electricity.

>>54474866
it took a global "pandemic" to stomp the prices down. without something ridiculous to ruin the economy like that, what will stop metals from continuing to rise?

>>54477584
>drop betty boop
>betty boop drops your networth

>>54477972
>just hack bitcoin bro!
okay retard

>>54477972
More immune to tampering and interference by governments than your stack for sure.

>>54477247
>you can really only trade in quantities of about a gram or so.

That was deboonked 2500 years ago fren

>>54476966
Yes
>>54477712
This guy gets it

>>54477982
>It's still there

Until they tell you its not.

>>54477982
Well you need some unit of measurement for the smallest purchases. You say it’s the sat because apparently it is totally and completely impossible to add a decimal place to a number on a computer. The cheapest thing I can think of off the top of my head is those little packs of chiclets with two pieces in them. Those used to be like 5c, now they’re probably 10.

>>54478004
>random guy ddos the site where you store all your nothingcoins
CANT. BE. HACKED. If the largest banks and government agencies are susceptible to attack by hackers, I promise you that the site you buy from, or the site you keep your money on can be fucked with. The notion of, “it’s impossible” is pretty silly on most things computer related.

>>54477856
>government regulates crypto
>exodus of normies out of crypto
>price collapses
>you show up to /pmg/ to shill your VPN software that totally lets you buy Bitcoin again guys!!! Seriously guys you have to buy it I bought at $60k

>>54478005
>govt want to ban crypto
>holds a gun to ISP's
>crypto is now le banned
versus
>govt wants to ban gold
>issues a decree that all citizens shall turn over all coins and bullion
>only 10% comply (just like last time! funny how that works)
>mobilize thousands of police to go door to door to confiscate precious metals
>there are casualties
>instantly start a civil war
>somehow this is easier than banning crypto
This is how deluded you are.

>>54478004
Bitcoin is no different than this:
ZCASH SPONSORS:
Amazon.com through an AWS in Education research grant
Broadcom Foundation and Tel Aviv University Authentication Initiative
Center for Science of Information (CSoI), an NSF Science and Technology Center, under grant agreement CCF-0939370
Check Point Institute for Information Security
U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) under contract FA8750-11-2-0211
European Community's Seventh Framework Programme (FP7/2007-2013) under grant agreement number 240258
Israeli Centers of Research Excellence I-CORE program (center 4/11)
Israeli Ministry of Science and Technology
The Leona M. and Harry B. Helmsley Charitable Trust
Office of Naval Research under contract N00014-11-1-0470
Simons Foundation, with a Simons Award for Graduate Students in Theoretical Computer Science
Skolkovo Foundation under grant agreement dated 10/26/2011

>>54477944
Are you the anon that was shilling using a hand-crank radio to send blockchain keys to farmers for their eggs?

>>54478055
Or just, “sorry, you’re mistaken Agent Smith, there’s no gold or silver in this house. No, Agent Smith, you can’t come in.”

>>54477950
come on, fhqwhgads
I see you jockin' me

>>54478077
Right, the civil war outcome only happens if the govt isn't satisfied and wants a ban on gold that is as complete and total as the ban on crypto.

>>54478050
>government makes VPNs illegal for any transaction
>transactions are defined as whatever the fuck the government wants it to be
>but we banned tik-tok, checkmate zoomers

>>54477986
>drop betty boop

That was the funniest shit on earth, seeing a faggot crypto nerd's vaporcoins get holocausted by a gay chinesium figurine and him lose his mind along with the entirety of his net worth was pure kino.

>>54478055
They think because crypto isn’t physical that’s a strength, and if Bitcoin had inherent value, that non-physicality would be a strength. But since Bitcoin is only valuable because normies are holding it, if there’s a jump scare and normies sell their crypto for a tangible asset or fiat, BTC price collapses. They need the retard class to keep buying it. Even if there’s no way to hack it or there’s no meaningful way for the government to regulate it outside of banning crypto trading platforms through bullying ISPs, all it takes is for the government to scare the normies out of it for crypto to go belly up.

>>54475884
I haven't heard about it yet. Please share!

>>54478043
Who is "they"?
>>54478045
There are 21,000,000x100,000,000=2,100,000,000,000,000 sats in total. That's plenty. If that really isn't enough the protocol can be changed of course, but it would require all involved parties (miners, nodes, users) to agree to it. This is why there are forks like Bitcoin Cash and the like. That's what happens when there is disagreement. If no one wants it no one will use the changed version, unlike what happens with government issued fiat.
Anyway, if it were required it would be because a single sat became too valuable, like if it was 1sat=$1 now. This would not be "printing" (devaluing) money though.
>>54478055
They can ban it but they can't stop it. Black markets exist, you know.

Where do you think crypto fits in on Exter's pyramid? Is it at the bottom with gold, which has absolutely no counterparty risk? No, because there IS counterparty risk, and that counterparty is the mere whim of the government allowing it to exist. This puts it at least as high as government bonds, at a minimum, except the risks are profoundly different in kind. Government bonds are an obligation of the government and a source of its power, crypto can ostensibly be seen as opposition to that, so if one were more risky in terms of its relationship to the government, it would be crypto, pushing it even higher up the pyramid.
Keep in mind, crypto isn't technically a part of the pyramid, we're just trying to figure out which layer has the same amount of counterparty risk. In a flight to safety scenario, if crypto and govt bonds are in the same layer, they should rise together, and wouldn't you know it, that's exactly what we've seen these past few weeks. As the flight to safety continues, bonds will be dumped, CRYPTO WILL BE DUMPED, and even cash will eventually be dumped as hyperinflation sets in.

>>54476695
What site is that from?

>>54478075
>hand-crank radio to send blockchain keys to farmers for their eggs?

Please tell me this is real so I can laugh harder.

As an egg farmer I wouldn't possibly consider taking digital shit for tangible products.

>>54478246
gold.de

>>54478233
>Who is "they"?

Jews, it's always Jews.

>>54478233
>They can ban it but they can't stop it.
>I mean, they're trying to ram through laws right now that would allow them to stop it, but that doesn't mean they could actually stop it.
>the b stands for bulletproof
The only money that is bulletproof is METAL

>>54478233
State actors can absolutely pressure people into, “agreement.” People weren’t forced into getting vaccinated…the government just made them an offer they couldn’t refuse.

>>54478075
>Are you the anon that was shilling using a hand-crank radio to send blockchain keys to farmers for their eggs?
no, that's pretty funny though

>>54478235
Somewhere between gold and bank money. Bitcoin will easily survive the USD.
>>54478272
Jews can't magically break cryptography.
>>54478286
>>54478296
If government is all powerful, how come black markets exist?

>>54478253
but you don't understand, I can help you set up a wallet, just turn this crank while I type some stuff in. Do you want to take DogeButts or CloacaCoiN?

>>54478258
Danke sehr.

>>54478235
If things start collapsing I think there only survivors will be REAL, TANGIBLE, PRODUCTIVE capital. Crypto is neither of those. Crypto is a function of cheap money and will collapse with everything else. Imagine if your savings account actually paid 5% interest per year like it did back in 2005. Why would people be speculating on digital tokens? In that kind of environment we will have actual, sensible valuations. Crypto's valuation is not sustainable without cheap money and credit, and part of the collapse of exters pyramid is that all of these counterparties are not longer in a position to spend into our economy and bad assets are revealed as such. Crypto may very well get a little pump, but it will be outpaced by physical goods such as PMs. People will be desperate to unload crypto and I think in a world where the debt bubbles are imploding and people are left holding the bags no one will be interested in crypto. Crypto holders will be like everyone else standing in the breadlines waiting for something to eat because they have nothing left to sell.

>>54478313
>how come black markets exist?
>why do people trade physical goods for physical money?
You're answering your own question, and you're too stupid to realize it. If the government wanted to ban crypto, all they need to do is force ISP's to implement some new rules, then POOF

>>54478313
>break cryptography.
Every developer can insert a backdoor.

>>54478313
Because stamping out 100% of crime is a mathematical impossibility. Your currency won’t be a very good medium of exchange if it’s used by just a small number of black market buyers and sellers. I don’t buy groceries on the black market. I don’t think anyone does. I’m not sure anyone ever has.

>>54478253
There was an anon, I should have saved the screen caps. He was saying post collapse no one is going to take worthless boomer rocks when he could broadcast his BTC password to every ham boomer is a kilometer radius.

>>54478272
>Jews, it's always Jews.
Know the enemy

Friendly reminder that jewposting is government policy to discredit the free money movement.

Is there any downside to buying older american eagles? I wanted to get 60 or so Silver eagles from 2001, because it was a sentinel year.

>>54478352
>kilometer radius
>crypto is based on a distributed ledger
>can only update the ledger locally
>somehow it would still be valuable
Leave it to a crypto nerd to try to explain something they don't understand.

>>54478371
Maybe a higher premium just cause you’re looking for a specific year.

>>54478371
Besides the premium, no, silver is silver. But you might get more for your fiat buying something else.

>>54478313
I repeat, the government doesn’t need to be all powerful, they just need to bully ISPs into not allowing crypto exchange platforms. If you float banning coinbase, half of all normies will just cash out. BTC isn’t going to be hoarded or stored like pre-33 gold, it’ll be dropped for lower risk tangible assets. No one is saying the government can come in and shut down crypto, they just have to scare enough useful idiots out of it and the price collapses.

>>54478396
>>54478399
Thanks. I just really want some 2001 eagles for some reason today. Maybe I'm just feeling sentimental for the world that was lost.

>>54478399
>No one is saying the government can come in and shut down crypto
well I'm saying that lol, but you're right that they don't even need to, that's how fragile the crypto market is

>>54478313
>Bitcoin will easily survive the USD.
I don't think it will. The technology will survive but when you need capital the most you'll find that crypto is a function of liquidity and not capital.
Know the difference, it can save your life.

>>54478410
>I just really want some 2001 eagles for some reason today.
Then get a couple! If you're already financially secure, it doesn't hurt anything to spend a few bucks on something you like.

>>54478345
Cope.
>>54478350
Yes, it's super easy when the code is open for everyone to read.
>>54478351
Buying food on black markets was pretty common in some parts of the world.

>>54478414
The government is retarded, there will always be a door into trading crypto. It’ll just be too difficult and risky for normies to mess around with. Crypto autists will be able to buy and trade crypto even after government regulation, but it’ll be worthless because no one is buying it, accepted no where as payment for anything, and a neat little hobby for people stuck in the hey-day of the earlier internet.

>>54478449
>when the code is open for everyone to read.
Did you compile your software? How many normies do you know that do that?

>>54478449
I’m sure it happens. But it’s not common.

>>54478410
2001 was a catastrophic year for the country.

>>54478148
every now and then i think about it. i work with a crypto nerd who has been seething since he bought bitcoin around 55k with a large portion of his retirement fund, after the government put the early withdrawal penalties back on.
i will go into a fit of girlish giggling and what really sets me off is fucking Betty Boop, probably the "Boop" is what gets me, but that bitch hasnt be relevant since the fuckin 50s and i think about her twice a week now.

>>54474311
Crypto wants to be what gold is without effort. Limited, unchanging supply, universally accepted, and, most importantly, private. You cannot track me handing a rock to another man for something in return. The only thing cryptocurrencies have on PMs is convenience and divisibility. It's hard to trade .0001oz of gold, but it's instant to trade crypto. The biggest hurdle in making people believe crypto IS money is getting them to trust and understand it. Gold and silver have literal millennia of history in value, and you cannot fake it. You can try to fake it, but just as there's a thousand ways to fake it, there's a thousand ways to make sure it's real.

But to answer your question, that's why there's a lot of shill threads. The slightest uptick in price, usually correlating with the weakening dollar, makes them mad. It makes them mad because they want Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies to replace gold and silver as the world's universal currency.

>>54478495
>Betty Boop
QRD?

>>54478478
You just need one person to build the same thing and compare if the binary executable is identical.
>>54478480
It will be common again when everyone has to eat the bugs. Not saying you need buttcoin for that, though. Silver for eggs will work just fine.

While down in the mines
Diggin' silver and gold
They came upon something
No man should behold

A grave with inscriptions
Words riddled in fire
>Lucifer, Son of The Morning
>Was cast from the light

>>54477712
fellow texanon have you seen texas precious metals inventory rn, it's hilarious

>>54478524
someone stored a bunch of crypto on a micro sd card, then a statue of betty boop fell off a shelf and smashed it
CRYPTO WILL NEVER BE REAL MONEY

>be early 30s
>single
>mortgage house
>400+ oz silver
>2.5 oz gold
>1oz platinum
>prices jump
I'm stopping buying with these prices for now. But if I never bought again, how comfy would I be on PMs if the USD collapsed? I'm assuming silver will never be under $25 and gold will never be under $2k again.

>>54477856
anon bitcoin barely functions anymore what are you talking about

>>54478575
I would say you are pretty darn comfy anon. Try to get the gold up to 6 ounces (buy fractional) half ounce brittanias and such, also try to get silver up to 800+ ounces and then you will be good. But focus on gold

>>54478530
>You just need one person to build the same thing and compare if the binary executable is identical.
I know for a fact that no one is doing md5 checksums on rapidly changing software.
I agree with your perfect world viewpoint but that is just not happening.
In addition no one is checking the code for real. Its just library dependency hell all the way to the bottom. No one checks the moving parts. Random number generators for example are just taken for granted. You are in denial if you think otherwise.
See >>54478066 too.
I could ramble on about VPN decryptors and mitm attacks but you really should re-evalue your view on this.

>>54478530
In a totalitarian dystopia like that, they’ll probably be monitoring electronic purchases. And who buys groceries online? I mean, yeah, it can be done but…

>>54478575
Mirin. I’m at 2.5 oz gold, 150 oz silver. Working on getting silver up to about 200-250, was hoping for more cheapies, I only bought 40 oz at $20 a month ago.

>>54478620
>I know for a fact that no one is doing md5 checksums on rapidly changing software.
There are actually plenty of people who do this, especially for critical software where security is important. There are also hardware wallets which never connect to the Internet directly and don't have this problem. I don't know if any of the popular ones are really any good, though.
>>54478627
People already do it with other illicit goods. It's a huge billion dollar market. If they fuck up the Internet so much you can't do any of this any more I would suggest getting the fuck out of wherever you are.
But yes, for food you buy locally you might be better off with some silver coins.

is there any updates on mintanon and boomers shipping out?

>>54478778
Mintanon is in jail for threatening a chosen sheriff on /pol/.

>>54478754
>plenty of people who do this
Most do not.
>hardware wallets
Made in China
Desu i know how you feel. You want this to be true but it is not.
Crypto is defeated technologically and more importantly economically.I did not even touch the issue that all of crypto is dependant on the US Dollar. You know - the little thing in the lower right corner of your chart that defines the "price".
Just go down the rabbit hole or not - its your decision.
Knowledge is not always pleasant.

20, no debt, 250oz, food, Comfy af. How many acres will I be able to get?

>>54478524
>>54478563

They didn't have any paper backups or memorized seed recovery phrases so lost something like $700,000 at the time. The dumbass was asking if he could glue the SD card back together, absolutely hilarious lmao.

>>54478077
>answering the door

>>54478829
about 350 sq/ft

>>54476695
>>54476834

Wtf I love those coins, is there a way to read the website in English?

>>54478148
Is this a video of this or something?

>>54478880
There’s a screen cap

>>54478563
They talk about bag holding a lot but at least my bags are real kek.

You know what I realize guys? You people on these threads might be some of the most honest and well-meaning posters on this board. No one is on this thread hoping to get anyone else to fomo into precious metals so they can sell their stacks at a profit. I don't think any of us are actually considering truly ever putting these metals back into Fiat currency. All we want to do is educate each other and encourage each other to build our stacks so that we may use them if needed when times get tough

>>54478914
This here is in fact the oldest thread on /biz/.

>>54478880
Here, enjoy fren

>>54478831
Good point.

>>54478830
DEVILISH.

>>54478610
Thanks fren. I can stomach gold $2.5k and less, I have 1, 2, 2.5 and 10g fractionals mostly. If silver is still in the 20s for the next year or two I'll buy kilos. But >$30 is where I wait for longer.
>>54478723
Me too fren, me too... I think there will be cheapies in the future at some point. But we'll have to wait.

>>54478858
Use Google translate on the website?

>>54479020
How do you buy metals the cheapest? Jmb is asking silver for 40 , like double the price

> roll of silver quarters on APMEX is almost 45 dollars an oz if you pay with a card

Jesus fuck

what are the implications for the metals markets if the fed pauses rate hikes?

>>54479161
I love junk as much as the next guy, but there's no way I'm paying $10/oz over spot for it. Got a guy that sells any junk he has on hand for $20/$1fv, though. I can't imagine paying $35 for 10 Roosevelt Dimes.

>>54479218
I can't imagine buying roosevelt dimes

>>54478575
I too am out of the buying for now. Can't tell where the PM stash stands. Could be you'll never need it. Could be it'll save your ass.The nicest thing is, you have a house. If inflation does indeed go nuts and you actually get paid more as currency devalues, that will help you immensely with the mortgage. So that can be the huge win. If SHTF, you might be able to convert some of that to huge amounts of fiat and pay down the principal before the world resettles and your mortgage gets readjusted for the new currency. It could come down to tight timing and foresight.

>>54479160
I buy fractionals for gold, so premiums up the ass there. I was buying 10oz silver bars, but eventually graduated to 500g bars. Saving up more for some kilos next time spot drops, if it does. I did FOMO into 100 merc dimes over the weekend for $257 shipped. Don't own many fractionals aside from some 1/4oz Golden State Mint rounds.

I want to get into silver, but I'm paranoid about getting robbed. Is a bank deposit box the safest way? also, coins or bullion?

>>54479218

You are much better off going to your lcs if you’re buying American junk for sure

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY GODDAMN BOOMER COIN?!?!?!
MINTANON I HATE YOUR FUCKING FAGGOT GUTS

>>54479259
>I'm paranoid about getting robbed so I'm going to give my metals to someone else
lol

>LCS live tracker had 1.50 or so next to gold's spot price
>today most gold coins sold out but only 0.01 next to gold
I, as many of you, had already assumed yesterday to be a mere tremor before a full blown quake, but it's still interesting to observe.

>>54479236
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the best practice for purchasing gold and silver, to stick with American eagles? Given that a 1 oz of silver was historically the value of a day's work, correct? And also there is no tax reporting required if you sell American eagles, not that I'm planning on selling for Fiats anytime soon....

>>54479259
just buy gold instead and hide it inside your asshole

>US taxpayers will be taxed an EXTRA 4,7 TRILLION in new taxes

oh i am laffin... haha...

>>54474166
Pretty sure those bars are fake lmao

>>54479229
I don’t mind rosies, benjis are ugly coins though

>>54479259
just hide it
>>54479290
not me, I spent all my fiat on metals

>>54479259
Why would you take your money out of the global banking fiat ponzi scheme, convert it into tangible assets, then pay the fucking banks to watch it and hope they don't "lose" it one day? If you're paranoid about getting robbed, the only answer for that is take good preventative measures to not get robbed. The safety and security of your property is your responsibility, you have to learn to accept that. In short, figure it the fuck out.

>>54479276

I like American eagles because of the design but I don’t know if it’s really worth having your whole stack being eagles given the premium

>>54479299
disgusting

>>54479276
>stick with American eagles?
If you're a Burger, it's a reasonable philosophy.
>historically the value of a day's work
Irrelevant
>no tax reporting required if you sell American eagles
?? Never heard that before. If you sell for a profit and want to be an contributing citizen, you would pay taxes on gains. It isn't that much, if you have save your purchase receipts to show how little you've actually made.

>>54479299
>I don’t mind Rosie’s
Burn in hell

>>54478914
we;'re all gonna wagmi

>>54479209
>fed pauses
>shows dollar is getting weaker
>bullish for PMs

>>54478817
>Most do not.
It's enough if a single person does it. Stuff like this makes the round.
>crypto is dependant on the US Dollar
Why do you think that?
>>54479259
A bank is about the least safe place to store your money.

>>54478914
The anonymous and open nature of the whole site means every post is a crap shoot for content. We certainly have our share of FUDders, ecoinholes, and wannabe profiteers.

>>54475985
Planning on getting one of the Germania 1 oz cast bars? They seem nice.

>>54479446
Almost every FUDer in /pmg/ is some crypto baggie posting the same chinesium gold bar upset that we’re not pumping his bags. There are very few /pmg/ anons that are going around shilling PMs outside of degenerate losers on plebbit.

>>54474719
This guy gets it. Hentai, cottage cheese and petroleum jelly will be far more useful during SHTF than dumb old gold and silver.

>>54479218
People saying not to buy junk now are the same that said it 2 years ago. Same with eagles. The premiums have exploded on both. They are going to go even higher from here when silver spot really gets going. If you really want,you could sell them and buy cheaper generic increasing the size of your stack. The “I only buy silvertowne buffalo silver is silver” group is really missing out on nice gains.

>>54479322
>>54479344

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING BOOMER COINS????? ITS BEEN FUCKING MONTHS YOU FAGGOT NIGGER MINTANON. GIVE ME MY FUCKING COINS YOU FUCKING NIGGER.

>>54478561
Looks like the same old stuff to me on their website? What were you referring to anon?
>>54478017
Oh yeah

>>54478914
Hoping to get a friend or two stacking by inviting them to come along the next time I head to an LCS

>>54479236
I'm waiting on some 1/4 oz gsm fractionals myself. I ordered a few 1/10 oz to have, but the 1/10 oz premiums are pretty steep. 1/4oz seems like the sweet spot for apocalyptic trading purposes lol. I figure if it's really that bad, folks will use ammo for smaller fractionals here in white people America.

>>54479661
FDR was a warmonger, destroyed the beautiful gold coins, extended the great depression as long as possible, and abused the power of the executive branch, leading to the shitshow we have today
He was one of the worst presidents of all time, and you are disgracing Franklin and all the work he did setting up this nation by comparing them
Repent of your sins, only GOD can forgive you now

>>54479573
i always say, dno't buy eagles and i continue to say that.
junk is a different story

>>54479573
$40 for an ASE is retarded no matter how you slice it.

>>54478802
kek

>>54479737
I say buy a little of everything.

>>54479718

My guy it’s a coin it’s not that deep

>>54479768
>>54479737
im glad i got a tube back in 2014

>>54479259
Listen anon. Don't do that. A few anons have claimed that a safety deposit box is safer than keeping your PMs yourself, but that ignores the whole point of PMs. I have assets, like stocks, that are within the 'system ' and to hold them I have to trust the institutions of the system. Having PMs are about taking some of your assets out of the system.

>>54479259
>coins or bullion?
My preference is limited-mintage coin. They have the best chance of having an additional increase in their value due to numismatics.

>>54474130
Am I shadowb&? Testing

>>54478575
Based. In the same boat but married with kids.
>31
>mortgage
>450 oz silver
>10 oz gold
Comfy as fuck

Dubs decides the silver high for 2023.
>$33.50

>>54479955
how strange this post is blank

>>54479768
Bro. Two years ago, they were $20. I’ve nearly doubled my money. You are an idiot. The premiums are going to explode again when spot goes on the rise again.

>>54479897
>A few anons have claimed that a safety deposit box is safer than keeping your PMs yourself,

I would never go that far, but I think that a case can be made for a safe deposit box in some circumstances, like if one is renting an apartment in a shady neighborhood and can't install a safe.
Depends on one's personal risk assessment and why one is stacking in the first place.
Never put your entire stack in one location.

>>54479737
And you are shortsighted.

>>54480111
Correction: 2020. At the start of all this I bought at $21 per oz. And I bet you were buying buffalos.

>>54480040

$5000 an ounce.

>>54480111
I said buying them at $40 is retarded, not buying them at $20 two years ago is retarded. If you bought them a few months ago for $40 you basically threw away your money.

>>54480040

Rolling for $1000 dollar silver

>>54480136
I prefer ASEs to generic, but I would rather have 2 ounces generic than one ASE.

>>54480136
i just prefer not to speculate on people wanting to pay exorbitant money for my semi-numismatic or accepting less silver in a barter situation

>>54480216
When silver is $40-50 eagles are going to be near $100. Eagles are always the first off the shelf. You were wrong then, you are wrong now.

>>54480240
Low IQ. Get the eagles. Wait for premiums to explode, trade them for generic if you want. I would rather have 2 oz of eagles than 2 oz of generic anyway.

Stacked a small amount of gold and silver a few years ago and turned a decent profit. Seems to be rallying again but it is around the point I sold last time. I feel like if I bough now I would be buying the top. I would like to add some PM to my portfolio but there is no way this shit is going to keep going up, is there?

>>54480250
You’re speculating on silver. Might as well mix in some eagles.

Someone post one of the silver ranking charts, l need to cope with how much l have.

>>54480277
I said I’d rather TWO ounces generic than ONE ASE. I have a couple tubes ASEs that I got for ~$22 an ounce, I have nothing against them, but premiums aren’t guaranteed to double on ASEs just because spot doubles.

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>>54480309
I know what you said and it’s stupid. Buy 2 oz if you want 2 oz. Eagles were the proven winner. You chose the wrong strategy and lost out on gains.

>>54474130
Bruh, check out this chart - no gold in sight, but Bitcoin's making moves! Stop being so damn rigid and embrace the future, senpai. Even Google and Microsoft are gettin' in on the AI and crypto game. And let's not forget, crypto's been killin' it for ages now in Web3, payment, metaverse, and gaming worlds with altstatemachine, Ocean, AGIX, RLC, and more. Fucking level up and evolve.

>>54480253
How was I wrong? If you paid $40 for ASE you lost out. They're like what, $26-$27 now?
>When silver is $40-50 eagles are going to be near $100
Seems awfully optimistic, but maybe I underestimate the boomer mind.

>>54480350
They are $43 on JM right now. You can sell privately for $40 easily. Lying makes you look stupid.

>>54480335
Confrontational retard.

>>54478802
Damn the constabulary!
March on main street!

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>>54479715
>apocalyptic trading purposes lol
I've changed my way of thinking about fractionals, not for the apocalypse, but for "mental camouflage" as I've heard from many wise people. If silver value skyrockets where were talking 100oz could get you a 2 bedroom house in 2040 (let's just keep it hypothetical), you wouldn't want to flash around your silver, even to dealer/buyers. I'd rather have random, different size pieces than a bunch of the same 1oz rounds. That way if you were in a situation where you only had one buyer, they'd think you're not as wealthy when you'd sell as needed. If one seller consistently has ASEs, and someone noticed a pattern, that may may make you a target versus the ""poorfag"" who doesn't appear to have much silver. I'm sure most frens ITT think similarly.

>>54480350
Yes, your small mind underestimates the demand for eagles. They are the #1 coin in the world and will sell out first when silver pops again. The premiums will be absurd. It has nothing to do with boomers. People looking to safeguard their money buy eagles.

>>54480383
There are posts on pmsforsale for tubes of ASEs priced at $37 a coin that have been up for hours.

>>54480383
WTF? They're 29€ here.
Still not worth it to buy 1 ASE instead of 2 generics or other coins.

>>54480407
Great. So buy some. They are $43 from JM. Saying they are $26 is disingenuous. I don’t care about a couple dollars difference.

Oy vey

>>54480436
Europe doesn’t count. This is a US coin. Buy 2 oz if you want 2 oz.

>>54480436
The lowest I see there is $35 anyway.

>>54480396
>mental camouflage
This actually makes sense. Fuck you for giving my autism something else to contend with.

>>54480474
saw up your bars and turn them into melty lumps

>>54480401
>They are the #1 coin in the world
Delusional.
>>54480473
I expected them to be cheaper in the US. 28,98€ is $31.64. Usually your stuff is a few dollars cheaper. This shows even more how retardedly overpriced ASEs are. The US mint is scammy as fuck.

I'm ready bros
how ready are you?
post you're yfw when your reasdy

>>54480534
In 2020, there were the first coin to sell out. That is why the premiums went to 60-80%. It’s not unreasonable to expect them to hit 100%+ in the next run up for silver. You will miss out. But Europe is basically finished anyway. US still has a chance.

new bread
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>>54480277
i feel lke you don't understand what premiums are. paying a premium is no guarantee you get paid it back when you sell

>>54474719
>Hoarding precious metals for the economic collapse is about as useful as hoarding candy for the zombie apocalypse.
Candy is actually an ideal way of having some emergency food for an apocalypse. Small units, ready to eat, high calorie density, long shelf-life if you get the right type.

>>54480040
42.69 €

>>54478235
nah its lower than bank money.
BTC is damn near gold, im not even a maxi I think BTC will fade away but a POW L1 that scales and runs smart contracts will rule all the chains eventually

Any NZ stackers?
Where do you buy from? My regular is pretty bad at updating his site and is selling out quickly.

>>54477479
Goldbacks are a proof of concept for circulating gold in small quantities. Looks like it works to me.

>>54480592
you are forgetting that if ASE premiums are 100% then premiums on any other coin will be +50%

>>54480396
Sound strategy. I've been buying all kinds of weird coins I like lately because, who really cares about an extra buck in premiums lol. I certainly wouldn't pull out a tube of rounds in front of someone, but it's a lot cheaper buying that way. Maybe I'll order some more different fractionals and get them tarnished to keep it mixed up kek.

>>54477479
goldbacks are extremely low mintage and dated, will be worth more than their gold by collectors

>>54480040
$42.42

>>54481557
I'm not counting on it, but man, that would be nice.