/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54463273
First for God and Jesus

whats considered decent stack for gold and silber OZ-wize?

THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING NIGGER MADMAN DID IT LADS!!!

2 weeks ago he gave his own people good advice to get out of the dollar and its starting to kick off now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVodxFIMg1s

>>54463273
first for shit thread, OP is a faggot who didn't put shiny in the image

>>54463325
bigger than what is on your bank account

>>54463325
100 oz

>>54463296
Based

Feels like the limiter has broken.

When I bought silver right after SVB, it still hadn't shot up because I preordered the 100oz bar during the weekend, I spoke to the salesman, and I told him I am doing an undergrad in business and he said he can give me a job.
He must be thinking wow that kid knows his shit. Unfortunately another guy gave me the silver and I never got Mr.icangetyouajob anymore. Story of my life.

I bought it for $3400, and now I can make a profit off of melt value.

>>54463352
too bad you're fourth nigger
>>54463329
it's gonna get spicy

>gold starts pumping into the stratosphere literally a week before I get the bonus that would allow me to buy my first ounce
>born too late to live in the abundance of the 1980s
>born too early to fight in the fresh water resource wars of the 2030s
>born just in time to be poor forever
This planet is fucking gay.

>>54463563
anon,... you had 5000 years...

$300 an Oz WHEN?

we are pumping

>>54463577
I know right, this is a failure of his clan as a whole

>>54463563
The experts and analysts are all saying in the reset the gold price will have to go to 100k+ minimum to back a new dollar, stop being a whiny cunt and get the money together to get a 1oz, the price maybe going up for now but a proper revaluation is probably still a year or 2 off.

>>54463577
I was poor for 4999 of them. This is the pattern of my life though, I've gotten used to it now.
>things are shit
>succeed at something
>things not shit anymore
>rugpull
>rinse and repeat
At least I keep my sense of humor. God's plan isn't without its little ironies.

Thank you, HolocoinAnon

>>54463563
Buy a half ounce then you fucking faggot and stop complaining about imaginary hardships that you make up in your mind to pretend that you missed out on some great happening that wont happen. Your self-loathing is unattractive and pathetic.

Is this because Trump getting arrested might cause Civil War 2?

>>54463563
why not buy mining stocks which have a much higher upside?

>>54463666
Not today Satan

>>54463673
Nothing is going to happen.
Boomers will piss and moan for a couple weeks then go back to watching sportsball and dying of cardiovascular disease.

>>54463673
It is because of this
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSJOL

>>54463673
Anytime shit is happening in the world they dont want the herd to see they pull distractions to get their attention away from it, i think the Trump thing is to get their attention away from the banks/markets collapsing.

Stack buffalos.

>>54463754
it amazes me the amount of things the common man simply misses.
but there are reasons why the jews can get away with it all.

Good morning all! Feels good seeing gold and silver spiking up!

>there are retards on this planet who didn't bouygthed silver a month ago, during what will be known in history books as the "Last Dip"
lmao, lol even

Banks need to get their shit together.

>>54463673
No one cares about Trump. The FRN is losing its reserve currency status because jews have engineered this to happen so bring in new globohomo digital currency.
Or if you don't believe in international jewry then its because other nations are sick of being bossed around by the US and can sense our weakness now since all we do is focus on gay buttsecks
Either way the dollar is on precipice of crashing. One morning, in about two weeks, Americans are going to wake up and realize they are poor and the balance in the bank account means nothing.
Gold and silver will make it through though.

>>54464098
>One morning, in about two weeks, Americans are going to wake up and realize they are poor and the balance in the bank account means nothing.
So you're saying landchads will quite literally inherit the earth.

Went to a "nostalgia" show on the weekend and saw this there.

>>54463475
okay bros seriously this is not normal behaviour...what the actual fuck is going on? what was the fear trigger? who the fuck decided to buy so much gold at once and for what reason?

>>54464098
>two more weeks.

This is what I picked up there

(Yes I know it's labeled as 20k marks when it's only 100, but I liked the design and only paid 2$ for it)

>>54464238
Sorry for it being upsidedown... Idk why my phone dose that.

>>54463563
You could have borrowed money, anon. Especially if it's just a week. For example, you could have bought with a credit card.

>>54464178
Land is going to collapse when illegals flee back to Mexico when the gibs spout shuts off and boomers have to sell their extra homes because their 401K is no longer worth anything. Land will still fare much better than FRN though.
Silver and gold are all that matters during a currency collapse. Weapons have extra importance here vs Weimar though because unlike Weimar we have millions of niggers who will become even more feral and violent when their EBT cards decline. Packs of feral niggers will be raiding neighborhoods looking for food and valuables. Thats why you need an AR15 a handgun won't cut it for self defense. Many whites will even try to flee to Mexico just to get away from the niggers.

>>54463329
We're gonna freedom bomb so many niggers in WW3 it's gonna be crazy.

anyone want to buy my silver?
i guess $200 would be a fair starting bid

>>54464238

>buying bars is cheaper than rounds because rounds have more details
>1oz silver round - $30
>1oz silver bar - $31

>buying larger sizes saves you money
>10oz silver bar - $310

>>54464296
You come across as a westcoastoid. I agree, hyperinflated land will not retain its 'value'. Other places may see a steep discount in price, BUT ONLY when priced in silver+gold. Land is still a fantastic investment because if hyperinflation continues then your loan is effectively inflated away.

Just imagine what is happening to the balance sheet of banks with millions of silver short contracts right now. Silver is going to cause yet another banking crisis if it keeps going up. The liability from silver short contracts is partially what killed bear Stearns before jp Morgan took the contracts into their balance sheet.

>>54464320
You're either new or haven't checked in for a while.
Past 2 weeks and even up to 9:15 AM that was true at 3 of my LCS. Even for Gold.
However, any sellers of PMs are also in a position to price this stuff as they please and it's harder for people to say no if there's a rush (or even seems to be one).
Profiteering.

Gold is up 307% from 1983-2022 giving you a rate of return of 0.84%
If you look at gold since 1980 you would have a negative rate of return.

In that same time period
Large US is up 7000%
Small US is up 5000%
Large Value is up 9000%
Small Value is up 17,000%

Gold and silver bugs are highly misinformed at best and at worst they are kikes peddling their shekels to stupid goyim.

All I have is 13.5oz gold and 190oz silver
Will this be enough for me to retire after the happening? I spend about $1,100/month right now all things included and won’t be increasing that expenditure for the rest of my life methinks

>>54464380
*yawn*

>>54464296
>mexicans leaving
Why would they? The currency exchange rate for bean coin is still huge. Go check out a customer service desk at any grocery store during the 1st of the month. You'll forever see women in garbage bags and quanalupe buying cashier checks

>>54463835
It makes you wonder what Trumps part is in all this.

>>54463659
It's nuts how flawless your photos are now-a-days. Not even a blemish nor spec of dust. IMO I think you should have removed the lead zero on the serial though, it looks out of place by itself to me.

>>54464380
>muh returns
you still don't get it nigger, and you never will.

>>54464447
How much more gold could be bought today after getting 17,000% return?

>>54464380
>>54464380
it's not an investment, it's a savings/insurance

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GARRETT YOU NIGGER I WASNT DONE STACKING YET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54464395
1 oz of gold = 1 year living expenses
1 oz of silver = 1 day living expenses

>>54463273
/pmg/: Silver is mooning WAGMI edition

Okay… Which one of you assholes bought ALL of the silvertowne buffaloes online?

>>54464510
A ratio of 1:365? I don’t think so.

>>54464510
365:1 Gold Silver ratio is uh.. lmao. I think 1 ounce of silver is historically used for 10 days of labor for one man.

>>54464484
>Just buy and sell at all the exact right moments while taking on enormous risk
Bro, sell your shit somewhere else

>>54464576
>>54464587
I think he's the sort who's planning to waste shiny rocks on prostitues

Does 25oz of silver exchange for gold now?

>>54464529
Crazy! I mean like so many positive waves maybe we can't lose! You're on!

>>54464484
>muh returns
usury is a sin and every cent you own through it will cause you immense regret. gambling it on securities (and shitcoin) is valid but I despise the system and refuse to ride that rollercoaster. My 25oz of gold that I've stacked in the last 5ish years is merely psychical proof of my principles. It sits there as a store of wealth and a symbol of my contribution to society through work.

>>54464532
Hi

any technicalanalysisfrens know what the implications are for AG and AU closing on todays highs? (looks like pennies under $25 and $2020 if this keeps up)
What are all the financial headlines going to say tomorrow, if anything

>>54464437
>I think you should have removed the lead zero
Thank you Sir...
Thought about it. Would even have been easier. I decide to leave it as a place holder. And it can still be removed.

HolocoinAnon -
Here's the non-gilded version.

>>54464780
Just look at the RSI. Gold and silver are both comically overbought right now, look for a pullback. We're also melting up on practically no volume so there's not much conviction. Lots of price exploring in this range.

hi

>>54464938
is that you mintanon, is everything shipped?

>>54464962
Not him

Looks like the algo is kicking in and wont let it go above 25

>>54464892
Just got mine. This is the prettiest coin I have and I have a lot of coins. Very happy with these.

>>54465031

>>54463273
Can someone fix this? I liked the cheepies.

>>54465051
not everything

>>54465035

crypto nerds are seething

>>54433348
Hmm. Looks like he got sentenced 15 years... And gets out next year

>>54463633
Merc nation finally made it in :D

>>54464296
>Land is going to collapse when illegals flee back to Mexico
I don't understand the logic of this at all.
Every illegal I've ever seen is living in a house with 50 other people. The impact this has on the nationwide housing market must be atomically small.

Finally got my new coomer bar photographed along with some other coomer bullion classics!

>>54465213
And here it is solo

sure is interesting experiencing Deus Ex for the first time while this happens

>>54463273
Ok all you fkn noobs, this shit can and will get volatile, I dont want to hear no bitchin when it gets to ATH of $2042 and people start taking profits.

>>54465213
Lol. Nice

>>54465035
Same thing is happening with Gold around 2020

Bros, I have finally have income and I was about to start buying again but it looks like we're pumping. How long are we expecting this spike to last? If it's going to be a while I'll just buy through it but I'd rather wait for the soft hands to bail out again if I can.

>>54464380
The future ultimate value of any stock and any fiat currency is zero. There are no exceptions. Over half the companies in the Forbes 500 since the year 2000 have already vanished.

A kilo of gold smelted in 5000 BC remains a kilo of gold. Tell me, where are your shares of Enron? Your shares of Lehman Bros.? What can those buy you?

>>54465301
Its more to do with silver, being above 2000 in gold is already past a point they want it to pass.

>>54465305
almost certain there will be a pullback to mid/low 1900s (~23 for silver) this week or next unless more news hits

>>54465046
I rather like the explosion side. A scene playing out is something I tend to enjoy on coins. Not always battles - Una & Redcross talking with the dragon in the sky is nice to me.

>>54465305
We very likely will never see $23 retail(that means including premium) Maples/Brits again, but there's a good chance at $24/$25. I'm personally waiting. If it is the golden bullrun, I'm already stacked. If not, I'll buy more when things cool off and fomo'ers decide to liquidate after crabbing+pullback

>>54465340
I think they will let it touch tantalizing highs "almost ATH check it out" then sucker punch it back to the levels you mentioned and demoralize. They need to keep people out.

And then it happened

>>54465355
Silver was over $25 almost exactly one year ago, then it plunged to $18 three months later.
This crisis will pass, the normies will forget, and prices will drop.

>>54465444
Checked and agreed. I don't think we'll get anywhere near $18 or even $19 again, which is why I say we'll probably eventually see $24/$25 Maples/Brits assuming a $3.50 premium. It's anyone's guess how low we'll retrace though.

>>54465035
>>54465301
Seems they're still manipulating it as usual, they're just letting it raise to certain prices.
Seeing they let SETF on I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to let the price go up for a while, maybe $28, $30, $35 and then dump it again to $18 to demoralize, to make it feel like a scam.
Keep in mind, always be stacking, use cost averaging. They probably started doing way more elaborate manipulations to stop you from stacking the physical metal.

Anyone stacking platinum? Thinking about grabbing 10oz

>>54463659
>>54464892
Holy fuck this is what we were waiting for, Your pictures are BEYOND top notch and we hope you get an otoya coin when we put them up for PO.
>>54465046
really glad everyuone is enjoying them so far!

>>54465174
Not. Every city and town in the US currently has entire districts occupied by Mexicans. If they were removed the housing market would fold.

>>54464238
The terminology Nixon used in '71 was that the convertability was being "temporarily" suspended. Nothing more permanent than a temporary government measure.

>CTRL+F "cheapies"
>Phrase not found
Where are all my pajeet bros at today?

Is it a good idea to sell my gold for more silver?

>>54465641
Give me cheapies or give me death.

Bought a $160 sterling bowl for $55 last week. Feels good man.

>>54465541
But why? When I look around my neighborhood there's maybe ONE house that has a pack of illegals living in it. Emptying that home would have a negligible impact on my local real estate market.
Even if you're saying there's an entire county of houses like this and they all become empty...what would attract me to live in one of those homes? How would a town of empty houses 200 miles away impact the price of homes where I live?

>>54465526
>80% mined in soon to collapse South Africa.
>Hydrogen fuel cell technology.
>Price has dipped below extraction cost at points recently.
>Unlike other pgms it has already entered normie language as 'the thing more precious than gold'
I'm a big believer. Join the team; especially if you've already got some gold and silver.

>>54465718
Supply and demand.

>>54465513
>they decide to let the price go up for a while, maybe $28, $30, $35 and then dump it again to $18 to demoralize

They wont let it go to prices that high (If they are still in control by then) as it would draw attention to metals they dont want, thats why they pull that shit with the cryptos, even if they dump it 10+ it would have the opposite response and get people to buy cheapies so they're scam is to hold it in a certain range where it never really goes anywhere and it bores investors/buyers away from the market.

>>54465694
Depends on the ratios stores you can rely on are offering.
You made me wonder though:
When would the ratio close? Could it really be in your lifetime?
What are the odds of a VAT on silver cropping up elsewhere in the world as silver rises?
Someone more knowledgeable than me might be able to weigh in here.

>>54465761
Let me try this another way:
If a house goes on the market in Antarctica, how do you think that would impact your Zestimate? What if it was a thousand houses? A million Antarctic houses? How many houses would need to be built in a frozen wasteland for it to impact your house price?

>>54465092
>no replies
great art is never appreciated in it's time

>>54465641
MY BASTARD WHERE ARE CHEAPIES SERS AAAAAAAA

>>54465764
Unless they are trying to flush out some supply from weak hands. They may need a big pile for some reason or another so they let it come up to get everyone selling grandmas tea set. And the guys who bought in at 24 who just want to get rid of it because its not exciting.

Who knows? Place your bets.

>>54465735
Need to stack 10 more oz of silver for a clean 600 and I think I’ll make the transition to platinum. I’m comfy with my stack currently and the void where Pt should be is draining on me.

>>54465641
Cheapies are over. We are living in total cheapie death times.
Silver and gold will go up so high that people will fight to the death even for scrap copper. It's over. Fire and blood will cover the streets.
Run.

Please feed me copium bloody basterds.

Am I gonna make it

>>54465863
Seethe.

>>54463648
We share the same spirit animal or something because I just got small raise at work. I just got a letter today telling me in June the rent is going up. I live in an rv travel trailer so it's not bad but every time I increase my means of wealth something new keeps happening that keeps me in the hole.

>>54465892
I hate trannies too. I just wish I had more silver.

>>54464438
>IMO I think you should have removed the lead zero on the serial though,
Whoops - Sorry - I seem to have grabbed the message Id just above yours. I meant this for you...
>>54464892

>>54465529
Glad you like it. I think the non-gilded was much more photogenic.

>>54465888
>888

You're going to be fine

>>54465888
Holy trips you're gunna make it. How many ozt?

>>54465888
Checked.
WAGMI brother.

>>54465046
Yeah - Holo and the mint did a great job on that. Almost made me think about considering possibly reading an Anime (or does one watch them?).

>>54465896
I think it’s just the nature of the times. Nothing has consistently gotten better and plenty of things have gotten worse. We’re not in an era of economic growth and a recognizable improvement I cost of living. It’s why we’re here, schizo-posting about the end times and autistically managing our stacks.

>>54465836
Less than 1000 so buy some kneepads with your 600.

>>54465896
Heil Christ, King of Kings.
Jews and trannys seethe.

>>54465566
checked

>>54465735
cool thanks, yea 1000 oz silver 1 oz gold, was thinking more gold but plat looks so much more tasty

>>54465888

And just like that, gold will never be under $2,000 an oz again.

>>54465945
About 400 silver and only a pathetic 3oz gold

>>54465962
Like most adaptations a show/film/animation will leave out details from the source material
Might as well get the most bang for your buck and save the adaptation for if you like the source enough or just look up specific scenes

>>54466046
This chart makes me feel like I have more as I personally feel the ratio will shrink in my lifetime

>>54466107
Understood. I'm still plowing my way through the Holo the Wolf zine.
https://w13.mangayeh.com/manga-info/spice-and-wolf
Then off to read about the Faerie Queene.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/15272/15272-h/15272-h.htm

Is there anything more FUCKING frustrating than knowing you're living in the ultimate decline of your civilization? I am just so fucking ANGRY all the time. We were cheated out of something better and there's nothing we can do about it, we can barely even TALK about it. Holy FUCK """they""" did a number on this society. It doesn't even matter that I'm a top 1% silver holder, or that I own a house, or that I'm healthy and employed. I am so pissed and no amount of grass-touching can fix this. We have been fucking robbed by the """people""" meant to serve us.

>>54465803
I’m talking about burgerland. Specifically previously desirable areas such as coastal California or south Florida that are now currently overrun with illegals not only driving housing prices but making said areas effectively unlivable unless you earn 98th percentile or higher. Actually not even just those areas. Any area with a temperate climate and any industry whatsoever are over run.

>>54466181
Right there with you, anon. I don’t see things getting better but how slow this death is drives me nuts. We won’t even get the massive global conflict that all of us can either die or have cool stories from as the next decade will likely be two week cycles of nothing burgers forever.

Why did I have to be born in the gayest era in history?

>>54465892
>Pure Au Roman Tier
God speed anon.

pulled the trigger, like a fool.

>>54466095
Wagmi anon. Needs more silver.

>>54466181
Now that's seething. Laugh more and enjoy the show. You're mad because you haven't accepted your powerlessness to stop the inevitable powerloss of a nation. Stop taking everything so seriously.

>>54466181
>If only you knew how good things are going to be

>>54466181
>Is there anything more FUCKING frustrating than knowing you're living in the ultimate decline of your civilization?

Eh, I suppose it's frustrating, but it's also exciting as we're about to see actual change in the financial system. Feel sorry for the poor saps who are still ignorance when it finally pops beyond repair.

>>54466181
If you are certain in your conviction, prepare yourself the best you can, and if you can do something to prepare to help others, that's even better. Do get mad - unless you position yourself to be in power, you're just along for the ride. It can be an adventure.

>>54465735
Fuel cells are retarded bullshit

>>54466205
It's enough to make me want to fucking cry.

Actually, you know what makes me really tear up? The Baths of Caracalla. Look at this.

https://youtu.be/AnDiAMSSwWQ
https://youtu.be/XQV8BJFAkrM

I watch these videos all the time and it does me in every goddamn time. These were gigantic, majestic, free bathhouses (more like temples or cathedrals in terms of scope) where commoners and nobles would often bathe together. Imagine what it took for them to achieve this. It took architectural knowledge, an appreciation of beauty and attention to detail, sufficient cohesion to build across several political administrations, and of course, the most alien concept of all - enough unspoken social trust that people would willingly go there, buck ass naked, and mingle without fear of injury, and without the whole thing becoming a ghetto toilet within a year. Oh, and wealth to build it - like actually metal money!

We have NOTHING to compare this to in our current era. This is the "greatest time to be alive in human history" - why? Because I have a phone that lets me watch tik toks? I would trade it all for a day at this place. If I ever had a lucid dream that I was at the Baths of Caracalla and then woke up I'd probably immediately kill myself.

>>54466205
Pic rel.
>>54466233
Checked and thanks Green fren.

>>54466181
Now imagine feeling this way while not being a 1%er, not owning a house. I just want boomers to fucking die, my grandparents have been calling me a lot recently and I just let it ring. Fuck them, I just want them to die already

>>54466021
I think platinum is better value than gold at the moment, but gold is the most stable store of value, so definitely an argument in favour of upping that. You're certainly very silver heavy at the moment.

>>54466259
fantastic shot

>>54466305
They literally already exist

>>54466378
Nobody is going to build that infrastructure with the aim of actually replacing oil burners, no one. It's a forced meme at best, stringing along from one grant to the next and occasionally exploding

>>54464487
>chuds finally get a suicided tranny on camera
>it's a mass shooter and ftm
>force the mtf rope meme anyway
anyone else notice that transphobes seem to take pride in being retarded? Racists and anti-semities step into the room armed with data, transphobes say the dumbest shit ever and clearly don't even know what testosterone/estrogen do to the human body

>>54464301
Where do you think they'll go?

>>54463296
The Lord is with us all

>>54466457
Like, heaven or hell? Idrc anon.

>>54463648

God gives his greatest battles to his strongest soldiers, Anon.

>>54466322
>toldinstone
Based. Guy also has a few cool videos on Roman inflation and coins.
https://youtu.be/7U77Irq7_qE
https://youtu.be/qrebO_9bhuM
Also checked.

>>54464380

Thanks for checking in Shlomo, see you tomorrow.

>>54466457
Oh you meant they were going to forcibly seek refuge status in white countries. In the middle of WW3. With the fiat gibs spicket turned completely off. The military industrial complex at full bore. And the borders locked down tighter than your asshole. That's what you were implying?

>>54465416
>>54465035
brainlet question here, when in the day is the actual "close" price recorded? Looks like silver is sat right on $25.00 for now

>>54465718

>but MY anecdotal experience matters!
>the tiny limited viewpoint of my existence is the definitive measure of trends spanning a continent.

Anon, you’re not going to make it.

>>54466706
Is there a video apart from the usual twatter screencaps?

>>54465964

Wise and Based. Surf the Kali Yuga.

>>54466706
>that pic
Holy shit...is she always this retarded? She's literally dictating to the world US citizens matter more than you. If that's not the final nail in the coffin for the dollar, I don't know what is. Good Lord!

>silver closed at 25 even
now how fucking kino is that

>>54466688
it varies by a few tenths of a percent depending on the source but the spot price that kitco gives is 25.00

>>54463587
>$300 per troy oz gold
Sign me up. I'll bring a semi trailer.

>>54466181
The great period of social cohesion and financial stability in the west is an odd blip in human history. Sexual degeneracy, tribalism, low trust, corruption, weaponization of the police, crumbling infrastructure, nepotism, centralization - these are the normal state. Things are only going to get worse. In 20 years you will have fond memories of how much better things were in the 2020's.

The opportunity to regrow only comes when enough people are hungry. Even then, you need a well-connected, charismatic leader to guide the anger of the masses. I doubt that will happen in our lifetime.

>>54466181

I hear you Anon. An entire generation is feeling this - at some level. We are living through an affront to all that is good and holy. What you are feeling is a Natural reaction.

What you need to do is use that anger. Channel it into meaningful pursuits. Profitable ventures. Training. Learning. Improving. However you can. We all know shit is about to get real. Use it.

>>54466706
I just googled seems the author of the tweet made this up, there is no link to a video nowhere. Fuck off with your bullshit.

is it too late to start stacking? I inherited my grandfathers small coin collection and I'm kinda hooked on finger fucking them. I think I want to get some more, just because even if it never actually makes me any fiat. I should go non-montray coins and not more things like Morgans, right? (the coins my grandfather had were Morgans and peace dollars)

>>54466706
>White House threatens Brazil and China over them rejecting America's appropriate interest bearing instrument

Serious question, what the fuck can the United States even do at this point?

>>54466415
Dude, they are already laying hydrogen pipelines in Europe. Hydrogen is the perfect fuel. Can be burned in ICEs, can be converted directly to electricity, is as clean as a mountain stream, can be produced anywhere there is electricity or sunshine (doesn't need to be extracted from specific locations), can refuel a vehicle in a minute rather than an hour, and on and on. And the largest automaker in the world is behind it.

>>54466911
It is a Russian shill account, so take it with a grain of salt.

>>54466046
>Silver 269 oz
>Gold 4.4503 oz
Which means silver equivalent of ~705 oz
So only 300 more ounces till I have a COMEX bar, nice. I can make that in the next few months.
5,000 is a bit of a hurdle though.

>>54466957
It's not perfect because of it's low energy density per volume. It requires much more space to power a truck with H2 than with gasoline. That's the biggest drawback I can see, otherwise you are right

did anything in particular happen to make that gold spike ive been out of touch for a week

>>54467069
Some jobs data came out today. Gold and Silver were sitting just below the trend line looking for any reason to break out

Why do you all celebrate the US hegemony ending? Sincere question as a non american. It seems so cucked to openly shill for your competitors and celebrate your own geopolitical disadvantages.

>>54467011
>It's not perfect because of it's low energy density per volume. It requires much more space to power a truck with H2 than with gasoline.

Educate me anon why this is the case, because H2 is the lightest element in the universe, and it's the bonding with Oxygen that releases energy without the carbon leftovers from Hydrocarbon making Carbon Dioxide.

>>54467115
The writing has been on the wall for a while. Some of us positioned ourselves to benefit financially from the inevitable. Speaking personally, what is happening is heartbreaking and I've been emotionally distraught for a while now thinking about it. I wish it weren't this way, I wish my government hadn't put us in this position of weakness to our "adversaries," but they have.

>>54467115
The people of the US were the first victim of the US empire. The "elite" in this country actively work against its people.
The death of their empire would be a good thing for your average person. Yes it would involve suffering but that suffering will put an end to all the nonsense that is funded by debauched printed currency.

>>54467115
Our society is decadent and highly degenerate. Collapse is inevitable; prolonging is pointless; better to swallow the bitter pill now and hope something better is on the other side.

>>54467115
America doesn't even exist anymore it's just a vehicle for genociding whites and extracting wealth now

>>54465302
Indeed. Just ordered another coomer bar as a matter of fact.
>>54467115
>Why do you all celebrate the US hegemony ending
America withdrawing from being a big boy might not be so bad. It could be like pre ww1 where we just minded our business with are soft voices and big sticks.
I for one want the drab dystopian status quo to remain for a bit more so I can keep getting cheapies.

>>54466957
>takes more energy to make than it releases
Shit tier battery desu, nothing more. Still requires batteries btw

>>54467115
US hegemony has led to the most corrupt, bloated and twisted husk of what was once unironically the greatest and freest nation on earth. Now it's like we're living in the fall of rome; it will take decades, but whatever rises from the ashes will be hopefully better than what is there now. The glory days are long over (>>54466181).
For example, the founding fathers of the USA abhored the idea of a central bank and fiat currency, but eventually weak enough men made it to presidency which allows the floodgates of corruption to burst forth. This change can never be reversed (JFK tried) until the current system collapses.
T. not an american either

>>54467154
You say this and not so sound rude, it just comes off as so sincerely insulated. Yes Americans have to put up with their cringe government but to even imply that American citizens have not benefited from the US empire is beyond delusional. The raw economic opportunity, technological development, military dominance and trade power it has given you in your daily life is undeniable. Not to mention how many times it has bailed the US out of tragically bad policy making. If any other nation did half of what the US does daily, they'd be rightly HEEMED but the US gets away with it.

Do you think your job will continue paying you higher than other nations for the same role if the USD dies? That your rampant tech advancement will just magically continue without unlimited capital? Or that you won't stagnate like japan? Or be outright unemployed for YEARS once your entire industry of work is forced to lower/cease production? I say all of this because for as much as Americans tend to say otherwise, I REALLY don't get the feeling they understand the implications for themselves long term because they've never truly lived under those circumstances. Especially the post-80s america where you have been printing money at a rate that is not in correlation with your economic output, leading to even further opulence and ease of access to desirable goods/services/investments.
>>54467149
Fair enough.

>>54467246

>>54467092
PMs aren't going anywhere, they're controlled entirely by algos and any change or movement in price is a fakeout.

>>54467115
>Why do you all celebrate the US hegemony ending?
Because debt base fiat currency is slavery, and the United States enslaves the entire world with it, $31 trillion and counting.

>>54463273
Okay silversisters, who's going to be the one to lose their gold virginity to The Chonk?

Question:

can buy picrel coins, info and pics align

- Pisrael: silver 5 lirot 1964
25gr - ag 900/1000
only 11k made off
25€

- Pisrael: silver 5 lirot 1961
25gr - ag 900/1000
only 19k made off
28€

- Pisrael: silver 5 lirot 1963
25gr - ag 900/1000
only 6k made off
135€


should i buy it? and why? i'm a newfag

>>54467255
All of the "benefits" of hegemony that still exist today - and they are fewer every year - are the result of inertia. Being #1 leads to inevitable decline. Our institutions are in shambles and our quality of life is going down every generation. Wages have stagnated, fewer people own homes, no one has kids, everybody is depressed. All of this comes from the decadence which follows in the wake of comfort - the comfort of being utterly insulated from real external threat. It's the Rat Utopia experiment writ large.

>>54467115
>implying the hegemony is ending
>implying this isn't a theater 'dive' to get the chinks comfortable so the west can draw them out and destroy them
Wisen up young man.

>>54467246
You just got me thinking anon, is there an actual /pmg/ reading list of founding fathers economics regarding central banks etc? Other books about the fed like The Creature from Jekyll Island have been mentioned before

>>54467317
>jew coins
>already smoothed edge
you just know

>>54467255
>Yes Americans have to put up with their cringe government but to even imply that American citizens have not benefited from the US empire is beyond delusional.
your average person has not and to argue any different means you are either an idiot or a dishonest actor.
which means any further discussion with you is pointless.

>>54467360
Reeded edges are anti-semitic.

>>54463273
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

>>54467372
If you've ever purchased a smartphone, used the majority of modern US websites (founded by easy VC money in the post-dotcom bubble world) worn clothes not crafted in America, or worked for a corporation that benefits from cheap foreign labor, or any corporation that benefits from the extremely low interest rates your federal reserve has held for decades now, you HAVE objectively and undeniably benefited in a tangible way.

Now, if you try to deny the "average person" has done NONE of the above, YOU are the dishonest one.

>>54467344
Ah yes, destroy them with an army of troons and obese buffalo. Clever tactics. They'll never see it coming.

>>54465406
>sucker punch it back to the levels you mentioned and demoralize.
Not sure how that would demoralise anyone, if anything cheaper PMs encourage me to buy more.

>>54466247
Live Laugh Love Let yourself be replaced by 80 IQ niggers

So, something has just popped into my mind that I never thought of before. Remember last year when that Texas billionaire went to her bank and blew billions on hoarding silver. For silver to really drain there needs to be more billionaires buying silver like that. However, would the banks allow that liquidity to even happen in the first place? There has never been a situation like that as far as I know, but would the banks crash their ponzi system so no one with a fuck ton of wealth escape the system?

>>54467390
https://youtu.be/FWDZVcT_ONY

>>54467390
>Digital Tulips
No T.Hanks

>>54466450
No one is scared of trannies

so this is when people take profits, right? and then the price goes back down?

>>54463273
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

>>54467482
It was more like one hundred million. Not billions. And for the record, she bought eagles.

I've been gone for two years after being skilled Bayhorse silver and buying at an avg of like 15 cents. When can I break even on this shit coin or is it doomed forever. Again, I have not been following any news.

>>54467473
So do something about it. C'mon we're all waiting for you to save the white race! LOL

>>54464240
It was me

>>54467286
If you could have this for free on the condition that you must shove it in your ass, would you take the offer?

just got back from bradys run, without more interest rate hikes what will stop the prices from continuing higher?

>>54467654
That’s an easy yea. It’s much smaller than your standard 100oz silver bar.

>54467390
>54467570
>https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
>WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
>https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


>THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

It definitely is "HUGE" a HUGE pile of shill shit is what it is. No (you's) for (((you))).

>>54467482
it would have to be a mass effort. if a single billionaire tried to convert cash to silver he would get a phone call. eric sprott had his life threatened

>>54463648
Settle down Beavis, gold and silver have been this high before and even higher. Buy some now and if it drops buy more.

>>54467608
Can someone answer me, I want to die.

>>54463273
OP is a massive faggot. Shiny metal goes in the OP pic you raging homo. If you don't know how things work around here, let someone else bake.

>>54467846
Bay horse is fucked. Jr miners are garbage and always have been? You have this incredible upside potential but most of them are scams. It’s like a crypto coin, you want a good one find one that has assloads of silver in reserve.

>>54467846
is bhs still at like 0.65

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Be me
>Order a tube of silver krugs last night.
>just check my account on website.
>((((((((order on hold)))))))))))
>Not "payment in process"
>Not "payment pending"
>Not "ACH clearing"
>fucking (((((((order on hold))))))
>"sorry goy due to market volatility we are unable to complete this transaction" is probably next.
I am going to get jewed aren't I???? Any other Anons experience this in the past 24 hours????
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54467889
what dealer? my order from bold went through with no issues

>>54467889
Haven’t made a purchase this month but last month it took 2 weeks to get to my door from date of purchases. Pull out cash and go to your LCS.

>>54467898
what did you order, my negroe

General theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntG50eXbBtc

>>54467923
1/4 gold eagle and 2 x10 oz silver bars

>>54467889
What payment type?

>>54466906
It's not too late. Best buying government issued coins - things like eagles or maples with low premiums.

>>54467224
Doesn't require batteries. In automobiles it CAN optionally be paired with regenerative braking which uses a relatively VERY small battery to recapture energy lost in braking (which goes to waste in most current ICE vehicles). But not required.

Nobody ever said it was an energy source, guy. .

>>54467612
Can't save the good goys

>>54467562
No!

I wonder if anyone is dumb enough to buy today. I almost was until I realized it'll dump back down again.

>>54467115
Were you in a coma for the past 25 years? The US don't exist anymore, it's a judaic colony who is only used by it's new (((overlords))) to spill their demonic doctrine all around the world.
Do you really believe burgers are happy living in under jewish tyranny where 60% of the population is morbidly obese, where the fear of repercussions from telling the truth so profoundly ingrained that ppl prefer to repeat blatant lies just to be left alone, where the youth is corrupted as soon as they can wall, where all the values are inverted in a pure satanic way, where the (((system))) use nogs as fear and humiliation tactic 24/7, where everything evil is pushed as the new paragon of virtue?
Most real americans -not the freshly imported hordes of spics- would rather see their nation nuked than continue to suffer this permanent state of moral decay, forced pervertion and endless humiliation.

>>54467562
I fucking wish. I have 6k on standby ready to dump into gold and silver. I need to get my money's worth, I am praying it goes down to sub 2k gold/sub 24 silver

>>54467358
I've been reading this for a while now and am about halfway. A good read with a gold mine of information.

>>54467358
I can't say I know of any good literature - but in terms of historical events, it's good to know about Andrew Jackson's Bank War (and the totally random attempt on his life that definitely wasn't a hired hit), as well as the circumstances by which Woodrow Wilson passed the Federal Reserve Act. Also JFK and the greenbacks, but I realize this is getting long after the founding fathers.

>>54466259
I would drive for pleasure there.
Where is that without doxxing yourself?

All things considered, the metals are still cheapies for the time being.

>>54467196
Yea but I’m a collapse I can assure you that no one will want your shiny rocks. People will want food and safe shelter from niggers, guns and ammo

>>54468079
Do you know what this figure represent? Most anons think it represent something that it doesn't.

>>54464380
>3x with zero risk
you wouldn't have bought "Large US" or "Small Value" consistently for 40 years. no cryptokek would have done a thing except talk about how it's all rigged and the banks will be dead tomorrow while falling for their 13th rugpull. companies that made up those indices came and went; you couldn't just sit on them all. the tax burden from trading all that for decades before anyone actually used a computer? laughable.
ETFs didn't even exist until just a couple years ago. literally fucking retconning markets.
but don't worry, the future will be nothing like the past. that's your biggest flaw -- you think you can stare in the rearview mirror while going 75mph on the highway.
you can't refute this.

>>54468052
this. also look at "what has the government done to our money?" also by rothbard the based jew

>>54468047
how much more would you get on your purchase? an extra 2oz silver?

p.s. just got my soon to be collectors edition 1oz au from credit suisse

>>54466181
Yeah it's rough being this powerless. I've just learned to accept it and be wary of it coming ahead of time. As someone still living with his parents, unemployed, and at best an above-average silver stacker all I can really do is keep stacking and learn to enjoy life while I can.
>>54466322
I miss living in a "bigoted' and "xenophobic" community, everything was cleaner and safer, everybody was so much friendlier and more trusting, too.

>>54468128
It's less about that, more that I have a pathological aversion to buying at the local top and losing money.

>>54467898
(((Bullion exchanges)))
>>54467908
My LCS is worse than rapemex. Perhaps its time to take a drive and find a new LCS
>>54467969
ACH. I am 99.999% sure it should say processing/pending NOT (((on hold)))

>>54463325
Conventionally, around 10-15% of your wealth.

is the recession here yet?

>>54468153
Yeah mine too, I have to drive an hour away

So when will the Jews finally push the price of gold and silver back down, and what will it look like?

>>54468178
Job openings are fake.

>>54464269
Photos' orientation is stored in exif data. 4chan removes all exif data so retards don't post their name or GPS coordinates.
To prevent 4chan from rotating your photo, resize and save it before posting.

how do people live like this? I just use credit cards for the initial bonus reward to purchase gold and pay the balance before the 0% apr expires

>>54468159
>Conventionally, around 10-15% of your wealth.
I am very unconventional.

>>54468234
When is it considered debt vs. a balance?

>>54468255
I think if you carry it from month to month it is considered debt. technically I do carry a balance but only when I have an intro 0% apr rate. I wonder how many people are the same.

>>54468153
I almost always pay by ACH. A lot of the time I get the message on my order "awaiting payment" even after funds have been transferred from my account. Give it a couple days and see what happens. After that, just call them and ask them what the deal is. I've called BE a couple times in the past to ask them when my order was being shipped. Both times my order was shipped the very next day. I know this "on hold" thing is a bit different, but it wouldn't hurt to call. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Something else you can do is look at BE's FAQ section and see if there's any mention of "on hold" status. Good luck, fren.

>>54468234
You know I feel like a giga poorfag having to constantly and save, almost never having enough to buy what I want (many times even need, my clothes are starting to fall apart but I can't afford a new wardrobe) but I don't have an imaginary debt slavery number over my head either.

>>54468252
All.
In.

>>54468267
Except for the house, we carry no debt.

>>54468159
>>54468252
word, I have most of my savings in metals at this point

>>54468117
Funnily enough I have that one on the way.

>see coomer bar I want
>make reasonable offer for $53
>offer autodeclines
>decide to bid on it instead
>get sniped (possibly by seller's alt) in last 3 seconds
>same bar up for sale the next day from the same seller
>same story, but I don't get sniped
>pay and get tracking info
>seller messages me that he can't find the bar and that I can choose another coin at 10% off or get a refund
>the exact same silver bar is currently up for auction on his page right now, but with a higher initial cost
What should I do about this, fellas?

>>54468153
I pay the same way, have the same "on hold" message. I've never had any issues. Obviously it's stupid, but I wouldn't worry about it.

>>54468227
Aw and here i was inserting phony location data into my photos to throw people off my scent

>>54468227
>Orientation is stored in exif
>If you edit the image it gets stored somewhere else
There has to be a fix for this

>>54468337
>What should I do about this, fellas?
Report it to Ebay. There has to be some sort of rule against pulling this shit.

There's a lot of FUD threads suddenly appearing in /pol/ right now

>>54468353
Rotate and crop your image. Only have to crop it a little bit.

>>54468365
/pol/ deserve to get fud'd

>>54468368
No I mean, why tf wouldn't the data save in both places

>>54468337
report to ebay, sometimes they actually ban sellers

>>54466181
Anon, arm yourself, train your body and your mind

I think a great reckoning is coming, and I think it will happen sooner than people give credit

>>54468388
Fuck if I know. I can't into tech.

>>54468102
It's a futures market. Yeah most people won't ever try to claim the actual product, but like any commodity, the prices will get fucked up when people want the real deal.

I always pictured that, if gold and silver did moon, it would be this catastrophic thing where i wake up one morning and it's done like a 200x while most everything else plummets to third world levels. Seems dramatic, maybe unrealistic, but that's how I imagined it in my head. Not a slow drip up to 25.

>>54468274
>look at BE's FAQ.
Okay just did nothing says anything about (((on hold))). But what it does say is.
>Q:Why was my order canceled?
>A:Your order was most likely canceled due to risk prevention measures we use to verify orders. If your order was canceled due to "lack of verification" or for being "high risk" we advise placing another order with check or wire as your payment method.

I interpret this answer as (((sorry goy but your order was "high risk" please resubmit your order at current prices and the issue will be resolved. Tomorrow at 9AM I am going to be one squeaky fucking wheel.
>>54468339
I am not the only one who is going to get jewed, good to know.

>>54464587
that's what a roman soldier made in a day

>>54468365
What’s being fudded? I’ve seen the Hungarian guy fussing on, who is actually just taking a piss but everyone takes him seriously. /pol/ will read right past what you say for any chance to be angry.

>>54464587
The ratio is 1:50. Days wages can’t be pegged unless you create a basket of goods in the current market. You can re-evaluate to the 1:50 ratio to figure out what it would buy you today if the ratio were to correct to where it ought to be.

>>54468494
No anon, they made 1 denarius or roughly one merc

>>54465888
>Type 1 ASEs
ya doin good kid

>>54468474
>I am not the only one who is going to get jewed, good to know.
Misery loves company? lol

>>54467258
Sorry, Grandpa-san, I'm still working on my time machine.

>>54468423

Avalanches are like that. Right up until they arent.

>>54468337
based burger enjoyers

>>54468337
Got my first krugerand last month and was underwhelmed, but it’s growing on me, it’s something that just feels like it should be used for money? I don’t get that vibe from any of the other modern gov coins. Anyone feel this?

>>54468358
>>54468392
I will. But not without having some fun first. Look at this sniveling creature begging me.
>>54468646
Love me burgers.
>>54468678
At first I didn't like em but they're my favorite silver bullion coin. They feel prestigious.

>>54467358
wEALTH of Nations

>>54468678
I like the simple, yet striking, trident design...and someday I will use it as money.

>>54466688
Checked and HH

>>54468735
Fuck that asshole. Tell him you don't want a refund, you want what you won in auction. Maybe he would like to throw in a "free gift" as well for you being such an understanding customer and not reporting him to Ebay for fraudulent deals.

Next one up, checked!!!
>>54468799
>>54468799
>>54468799

>>54468735
kek what a fucking rat

>>54463273
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

>>54468816
Is this what the rest of /biz/ is like?

>>54468810
>>54468800
Yall think he's legit or should I report him? I haven't got my refund yet either. Hmmmm.

>>54468735
that was cool lol.
but yea, just report him.

>>54468856
Actually I did get my refund.
I'll keep an eye out for when he relists it in 2 days and make sure to bid on it again.

>54468816
>SIRS PLEASE
>PLEASEEEEEE SIRSSSSS
>SIRSSSSSSSSSS PLEASESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>54468856
I think he's a scammer and he's full of shit. I'd tell him that I was going to take it up with Ebay to make sure I got my refund.

>>54468879
do it and when he pulls the same shit, confront him again and report him to ebay

>>54468903
I do too but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, unless he relists it. Then I'm reporting his ass. Or maybe I'll just report him now anyways. Hmmmm
>>54468910
Actually the only reason I bid on it today is because he sniped me with his alt account last week because nobody wanted to pay his retarded prices.

>>54467751
>eric sprott had his life threatened
now I must know the whole story

>>54467608

>>54468970
He writes like a chinese.

>>54469233
Yeah he's probably an esl or he really is 74. I will update when/if he inevitably relists that silver bar.

>>54469295
>implying that coomer bar is silver
Anon I...

>>54469553
yea might want to get it tested if it ever arrives.
i hope to see how this plays out.

i fuckin miss newsanon

>>54466450
YWNBAW
https://files.catbox.moe/4guyg2.mp4

>>54466259
Based miatachad. I’m gonna buy one soon

>>54464240
OPEC

>>54464500
save for gold instead, fool
I'm think bout thos sovs myself desu

>>54464500
AAAAAAAAA IT WASNT ME I DINDU NUFFIN

>>54468646
Boats? Here?