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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

18 is still sui, right?

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay STATUS UNCLEAR!!
>Archetyp
>Astra #
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Dark Matter
>Darkmoon
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Mellow Market
>Retro Market
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yaUPVLvk


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/AnkqVGjp


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

Anything that isn't PoW is a scam.
Anything that isn't ASIC resistant is a scam.

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>54453445
McAfee didn't kill himself

Reporting in
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Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/YubX8hdN
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>>54453445

>>54453500
Is majestic bank still reliable?

Threadly reminder that there is now a parallel XMR General on the darknet imageboard BitChan where you can post with the absolute maximum degree of privacy possible.

Why bother? Well, remember that every time you post on 4chan the content + your IP address are being logged and that data can and will be made available to LE/glowies upon request.

So if you need to ask a very delicate question, want to make a potentially incriminating announcement or you otherwise just absolutely positively DO NOT WANT to risk being deanonymized, the BitChan thread would be the place to do it.

The slightly higher barrier to entry also serves as a badly needed retard filter so a lot of us post there simply to avoid the hordes of mouth breathers that befoul this otherwise delightful basket weaving forum.

>How do I access BitChan?

You need to have I2P configured & running on your device. Fortunately, pre-configured browser bundles are now available and make everything easy. Since most of you lazy faggots are still using Windows we'll default to that for the following guide:

1. Visit https://i2pd.website/ and click on 'Download I2PdBrowser'.
2. Download either the I2PdBrowserPortable_xxx.7z or .exe file. Extract/install it.
3. Run the StartI2PdBrowser.bat batch file to launch. Adjust firewall settings/port forward as required. Port forwarding > UPnP

A cmd window will pop up and initialize the process. A windowed Firefox instance should soon appear. DO NOT RESIZE IT! Browser fingerprinting is a thing. Once pic-related appears you are officially browsing the darknet! You can monitor yr I2P service by visiting http://127.0.0.1:7070/ in yr *regular* browser.

Then simply copy/paste the following link into the address bar as per usual:

http://bitchan.i2p/thread/BM-2cVPN9mi9oBKATjNxKkopHJSCU9ah7wQwW/047186ce462d

You may have to complete a CAPTCHA on your first visit. Also, NEVER, EVER ENABLE JAVASCRIPT!!!!

Keep in mind that page loading takes longer on the darknet, so be patient.

>>54454559
>Is majestic bank still reliable?

What's the word on the street?

>>54454604
still sus if you ask me, they held someone's xmr and cut contact last week

>>54454697
just checked and he says the issue is now resolved, but still id just use
>https://trocador.app/
made by the people behind Monerujo

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

This is what Monero chuds dont want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

Ziggers

what about latest cakewallet update?
and it's 2023, why am I not rich? I mean we

>>54454989
>>54455009
zcash is so good they can't even keep their general alive
thats how you know its good!

>>54455600
>why am I not rich?
checked

I propose we start an /XMR/ reading list. My initial contributions:
>The Sovereign Individual
>Mastering Monero
What's in your /XMR/ bookshelf anon?

Is discourse on bitchan solid? Have avoided dark web all together to avoid seeing things I’d rather not.

>>54455754
Barren Metal - A History of Capitalism as the Conflict between Labor and Usury, E. Michael Jones.
Finite and Infinite Games, James P Carse

and The Sovereign Individual and Mastering Monero of course

>>54455754

>>54455712
Who made this

No one responded to me yesterday but i want to know what will most business do once enforcement comes, with those tax bills that moving your crypto back to fiat is like 30% and because there is a permanent blockchain layer it means that any business doing business in bitcoin will eventually need to pay like 20 to 30% in taxes killing the whole blockchain project in its tracks because it will be simply too expensive to deal with crypto, i know monero is based and all but monero has probably like 1% of the usage of bitcoin and bitcoin only has like 1 million wallets, basically what i am saying the federal goverment will institute fednow in 3 months and basically the cbdc usage will go from 0 to 350 million people outnumbering all the people using crypto, basically i just don't want to spread fud but it looks like the new world goverment already won and we lost, let me explain the wef has super AI, even a retard is capable of tracking your transactions now,
https://decrypt.co/124928/blocktrace-introduces-ai-chatbot-for-easy-blockchain-transaction-tracking

The wef already has super powerfull ai, in 1 or 2 years probably perfect omniscient ai, the goverments in the world will know how to track most blockchains, if you are a legit business you are fucked because you either use fednow or use cryptocurrencys and go to prison if you didn't pay that 20% 30% tax, sure there are exceptions in el salvador or the central african republic but basically i feel we are fucked, basically the new world goverment ensured everyone will eat in small pods eating the insects and if you complain you will not get your ubi via fednow because you are now a fucking serf without a way to escape this surveilance state, also yeah you can be lucky if you are someone in the black markets or secondhand markets but if you just want to be a legit good goy that never complains and does his papers correctly you are still fucked because it looks like the wef literally wants you broke.

>>54453677
he absolutely did not kill himself

>>54457813
I am the wef

I want to onramp via localmonero since it seems it's relatively easy to do so with Cashapp now. How dumb is it to use a cashapp that has my info (ssn+Id)? They won't be able to know I'm buying crypto unless the seller is marked or something right? Also, when I took an offer, the seller wanted my phone number attached to my cashapp so they could text me the details, it felt really sketchy, is that a reasonable thing to ask a buyer?

Let's say they implement CBDC. How will people buy Monero?

>>54458161
In some way you need to future proof yourself, would you rather protest in the streets to revolt against the wef or sit comfy in your house with a big smirk on your face.

>>54455754
>Industrial Society and Its Future, by Ted Kaczynski
>Democracy the God That Failed, by Hans Hermann Hoppe
>The Hard Reset, by Terrorgram Collective
>fgc-9.zip, by jstark1809 and detdisp

>>54458165
gold

>>54455754

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/4/3/mullvad-vpn-and-the-tor-project-team-up-to-release-the-mullvad-browser/

>Le mullvad browser
>Tor Browser without tor connections

this could be the new bundled i2p browser + mullvad vpn paid with Monero for clearnet, making i2p + Monero the standard

I bought

>>54454559
>>54454604
They are dodgy af. I wouldn't touch their service or any of their products, ever. Some of the shit they pulled

- let a swap into WOW disappear, with volume of several XMR. User got money back after "talking to the support", but I think they only cared because User was loud in public rooms
- they forked cake wallet for their own shitty branch, wiped commit history, and didn't include the latest security patches
- build a " proxy server" into their wallet that worsens privacy
- fetching from their server when attempting to build the wallet, possibility of accidentally doxing devs
- vote manipulation for the monerokon sponsorship

Worst of all is there handling of those things. When faced with any criticism, they always claim "we did nothin wrong" and then proceed with throwing blame at everybody else. Check the IRC/Matrix logs and see for yourself

>>54459470
>Tor Browser without tor connections
> for i2p
reminds me of this:
https://teddit.net/r/i2p/comments/128x9p7/a_bash_script_to_fetch_and_convert_tor_browser_to/

>>54457122
Let's say you really have questions and you're not trying to waste everyone's time answering questions that you can answer yourself, just think logically.

First of all, no decentralized currency is going to die because of 30% or 100% taxes, almost no real business depends on bitcoin as a payment method and the few that do have enough incentive to circumvent the problem. Anyone who DEPENDS on crypto to SURVIVE will have to use Monero which is untraceable.

Furthermore, the adoption of cryptos tends to rise since for every old person in the current financial system that dies a new participant open to the ideals of crypto will appear, the adoption starts very slow and ends very quickly.

Your fear of CBDC is unfounded, it cannot and will not kill crypto, it will however kill cash, when the government forces the adoption of digital money the population will simply get used to it, and that is good as it is much easier to transition a newbie from CBDC to crypto than transitioning a newie from cash to crypto.

Also, Artificial intelligence will not be omniscient, Jesus man, take your meds already. Go touch grass.

>>54460379 was meant to >>54457813

>>54457813
"Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny."

>>54453916
based

>>54460516
truth

>>54455754
>>54456283
>>54457059
>>54458298
>>54458834
thanks anons, i missed a few of these, gonna get these pdf asap

So this just launched exclusively on I2P. Seems people are finally getting the message that Tor needs to take a back seat as far as hidden services are concerned.

>>54460974
>Seems people are finally getting the message that Tor needs to take a back seat as far as hidden services are concerned.
Good.
The retards at fr3nsch4 n are still using the clearnet torrents for distributing their glow pdf files. Imagine downloading/seeding the S1EGE on the clearnet torrents lmao

>>54455754

>>54455754
>Zero to Monero v2 by Koe, Kurt M. Alonso, Sarang Noether and others
Maybe not strictly Monero related but
>Neuromancer by Willian Gibson
>Anatomy of the State by Murray N. Rothbard

I really should star reading The Sovereign Individual as well, so what about an /XMR/ book club? The book seems to have 11 chapters, do 3 chapters per week, discuss them on the weekends and we could finish in a month.

>>54457813
No. its impractical for a handfull of prople to lock up 50% of the worlds population.
They will backle and surrender. They know this so they want to stop mass adoption, because puting 0.1% of the world pop is.
We just need to push it hard

>>54461527
>so what about an /XMR/ book club?

I2P e-book depository would be ideal. Add the bookmark and all relevant literature is just a download away.

>>54461527
>so what about an /XMR/ book club?
>discuss them on the weekends
you can use http://bitchan.i2p for that.
There is already a monero discussion thread there, or you can create an /XMR/ book club thread.

>>54461691
>I2P e-book depository would be ideal. Add the bookmark and all relevant literature is just a download away.
I like this, way easier to onboard newcomers

>>54461527
>so what about an /XMR/ book club?
I would get in on this, but maybe hard to schedule. I hope this does pan out though, would be very neat.

Somebody tell Vik to quit moonfagging on Twitter.

>>54462428
except this rocketship has been going sideways since 2017.

>>54461062
What a bunch of trash. Thank god for the "hide NSFW" option on that site.

>>54463142
It's not trash. It's art and it's beaultiful

>>54462660
>sideways
Only in metrics that are unimportant. I will never understand maxi fags. They obsess about their shitcoins value in fiat and suck Gensler's dick, then in thr same breath, claim to be killing central banking.

>>54463574
>It's not trash. It's art and it's beaultiful

Missed these brizzles.

>>54463678
it's totally important. you can't start a revolution without incentives. people have no incentives to be early adopters and strengthen the network if it has no upside. there is a very specific boomer crowd cheering for gensler and they are all retarded also all rekt shitcoiner newfags.

What's up with that XMR vs ZEC?

Which one is better now and why?

Aren’t you guys concerned that your main guy was arrested for fraud? Lol

>>54454989
>>54455009

Welcome fellow Zchad >>54416728 >>54416741

>>54464914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la8LD_cTNcA

>>54464817
>it's totally important. you can't start a revolution without incentives. people have no incentives to be early adopters and strengthen the network if it has no upside.

Retarded take. If you bait people with the promise of moons & lambos then all you've really recruited are obnoxious coin shillers who will cut & run the first time they encounter enemy fire.

Conversely, if you attract ideologically-driven people by virtue of having rock-solid fundamentals, you've actually recruited dedicated revolutionaries who will do whatever it takes to win the war against the State.

This is why moonfags get the rope.

>>54464840
>What's up with that XMR vs ZEC?
>
>Which one is better now and why?

>>54464914
>Aren’t you guys concerned that your main guy was arrested for fraud? Lol

>Fluffy stepped down in 2019 from the core maintainer position, hasn't had a commit to any monero codebase since 2020
>Fluffy was a maintainer not a developer, his job wasn't creating features
>the official domains are controlled by different people, the releases as signed by a different person, the CCS is managed by different people, the github is controlled by different people, Fluffy has no more control than you have over the codebase
>MyMonero is indeed very bad for privacy, but nobody uses is because keeping your crypto in a webwallet is something that only Web3tards are stupid enough to do
>MyMonero is abandonware, it is not maintained, promoted, or used
>no LLM, be it GPT-4 or ChatGPT, is a valid source
>Fluffy was arrested on charges from a decade ago relating to non-crypto ventures (privacy coin takes off, public figure number 1 gets harassed. go figure)
>5 out of 7 core devs are still anonymous, there are devs that are the public face of Monero. And there are ones who aren't
>his arrest was in 2021, we are in 2023
>since his arrest Monero has moved on it terms of technology, even if you suppose Fluffy for no reason just kept a privacy bug to himself, the tech has upgraded since. We had RandomX, protocol changes, CLSAG&MLSAG changes, higher ring sizes, BP+s implemented and more.

>>54465063
if you want systemic change you have to incentivize the population to adopt your solution. there is no magical awakening to cypherpunk ethos by the masses. that ain't happening they will sooner wechat.

>>54465216
>if you want systemic change

There will be no systemic change, there can only be an expansion of the shadow economy, which has ALWAYS existed in parallel with the mainstream economy.


>you have to incentivize the population to adopt your solution.

By selling them a get-rich-quick fantasy? Nigga, go back to Bitcoin.


>there is no magical awakening to cypherpunk ethos by the masses. that ain't happening they will sooner wechat.

You're right, there will be no MASS awakening. But there can be a critical minority awakening, which is all we need for a sustainable shadow economy to thrive.

>>54465325
>There will be no systemic change
there has to be this system is completely unethical unsustainable and the end of the road is hyperinflation.
>critical minority
you need your anon set or you are a sitting duck for the glowies especially in the ai age.

>>54465390
>there has to be this system is completely unethical unsustainable and the end of the road is hyperinflation.

The more things change the more they stay the same.


>you need your anon set or you are a sitting duck for the glowies especially in the ai age.

HODLers don't spend their coins.

>>54465063
>>54465325
man i love these pictures so much, so funny

>>54465491
>man i love these pictures so much, so funny

Enjoy.

>>54465063
The thing is we will moon, and within the next 5 years

But I want all of these morons to miss out on it, the system is slow to adapt but the international jew knows it is valuable

Jews might benefit the most from monero to do their shadow deals without having to Clinton people

>>54465534
Jesus Christ, i can barely look at those thumbnails and not cringe my ass out.

>>54465216
>if you want systemic change you have to incentivize the population to adopt your solution
i agree with this and as pointed by this anon >>54465063 the right incentive lies within the fundamentals of economic freedom. there is no point in trying to draw as much people as possible lured by some lie or just pure greed, those people will turn their back on the project the exact moment shit goes south and move to the next hype.

>>54455754
>>54461527
>so what about an /XMR/ book club?
i like it a lot, what about a matrix or xmpp group to discuss weekly/monthly books?

>>54465325
I really hope anon there will be a way at least for goys like us that don't easily accept mainstream bullshit still have a great future, literally the wef wants everyone to be a slave, maybe there is a small chance people will thrive if they want too, what i don't want is easily getting fucked in the ass again because most people decided to adopt cbdcs like how they decided to take the fucking vaccine, literally i can't simply forget how dystopian 2020/2021 was, how easily people took the vaccine, how you needed to lie to others that you took the vaccine, i had family that were forced to take the vaccine just to go to work, it was simply fucking horrible, the lockdowns the fact i couldn't move, cbdcs will be lockdowns all over again, the worst part is most people simply prefer to take it in the ass and will be cattle in front of the institutions, of "fauchi" experts and other people that want to remove your free will.

Maybe there will be still a way for us to thrive, vicuna is open software and could be a competition to chatgpt and gpt4 if more people put effort into training this open language models, stable difusion and other open software images can be a competitor to closed source shit like dally, the robots for example the coming robots by openai i am sure they will be able to be hacked or people will find a way to hack them, the cost of living will be high but that only happens if you are a cuck that decided to stay in a fucking luciferian city, automation may remove you from your wage salary and there is still time before the goverment makes cash ilegal so you still have time to put all your money in crypto but it looks there are only 2 choices now live a degenerate life spending all your remaining money in prostitutes in third world shitholes or pray, work and help open software so that this fucking institutions like openai don't momopolize the future and force you to eat ze bugs with ze ubi.

>>54466761
>the fundamentals of economic freedom
nothing better than bitcoin for that stuff. this is a multi faceted problem, and you guys are jerking off to a niche problem that only exists for a few years.

>>54466950
Ok, then no need to worry about the xmr general right

>>54466987
no worries. i'm just amazed how you guys can be content with posting the exact same boring crap verbatim day after day while nothing ever happens. like what's the point?

>>54466950
Look the point of bitcoin was to create a deflationary currency peer to peer that removed the need for the state and other cartels to control your money, bitcoin has suceeded in some way but maxis are still fucking retarded, before satoshi left he was building a store to trade goods and services, at this point in time we have some decentralized stores and services and xmr fullfills that bit a little better than bitcoin the only thing left to be done is mass adoption, i am bullish on cbdcs because it will force informal markets to use crypto if cash gets banned, also you are free to change my mind but all the kikery of smart contracts i don't know or i don't think thats needed to create a trully decentralized economy, loans and other forms of debt is just bullshit economys based around magical wizardry that institutions like the fed say create jobs, in reality the real economy is the trade between products and services between people, once you add parasites like jews renting houses you end up with the modern dystopia that the usa has become, ideally if we werent in this wizardry economics based on debt that some kikes invented 100 years ago then the cost of living would be literally almost 0 right now.

>>54467058
>nothing ever happens
i think you might have been driven to believe that revolutions happens overnight. have patience, the purpose of these thread is to welcome people into the community and explain the basic of the project.

Replacement of the monetary system isn't going to happen just because some anons talked on the internet and got hyped about it. It is going to be triggered by some major events that are yet to come and who the hell knows what is going to be. the future is so unpredictable and the market so complex that all we can do is try to be ready for when that time comes. and we are doing exactly that.

>>54466950
>the fundamentals of economic freedom
>nothing better than bitcoin for that stuff.
This isn't 2013. Bitcoin is a coopted project and an absolute failure at achieving its goals of being peer to peer electronic cash.

>>54453445
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

Can someone explain why I'm an idiot? "Synchronizing Daemons" takes forever. It's apparently part of 'network', but I can't imagine my 120 down/120 up Mbps speeds are the reason. Please help a humble retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4_UVr9o6g

>>54467678
>Vague moonfag tagline
>Random url
Yep that's a scam.

>>54467682
Are you doing this on an HDD? Generally the sync is quite long because of the nature of Monero's transactions. I don't think your download speeds are what are bottlenecking but rather your CPU and possibly your storage medium. It can take multiple days on hard drive. You might go a bit faster bootstrapping off a remote node but it doesn't do too much.

>>54467058
It's not for you, don't try, give up

>>54467682
Its because it wasn't to sync 100 blocks per chunk, which is a data and process hog. Use:

--fast-block-sync 1 --block-sync-size 1

You'll see how it syncs single blocks much faster than 100 or eventually 20 block chunks which will take forever on the modern blocks. You're welcome.

>>54453445
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/
WEBSITE LIVE
>WEBSITE LIVE
https://arbpyre.com/
>https://arbpyre.com/


THIS IS GONNA BE FUCKING HUGE ANONS

>>54453500

so i have some monero, but i never tried to do anything with it. i was just trying to buy something and i get this message in picrel. what does this mean?

>>54469181
is your wallet updated to the newest fork? default outputs is set to 16 now

>>54469181
you need to update your wallet

>>54469578
thanks. i figured that out while i was waiting for a reply. i bought some monero a long time ago from one of these threads, but never did anything with it. i just came back to see what you can actually do. i can report i was able to buy an amazon gift card.

>>54468043
>--fast-block-sync 1 --block-sync-size 1
Does this go in the startup flags?

>>54467717
No, I've got an SSD, and task manager says my CPU isn't going above 15% so I have no idea.

most hodlhodl.com btc sellers ask me for ID and drivers license (because I don't have any trades on the site). how can I *politely* ask them to forgo this step?

>>54470202
yes, or config file.

I'd also recommend the "limit_down" option/command
https://monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/

>>54457122
Not sure. Wasn't me.

I am going to get better at this.

>>54471390
Share prompt, for research purposes

>>54471480
I just added 'peace sign' to this civitai.com/images/344090?modelId=23982&postId=116303&id=23982&slug=monerochan

>>54461062
>>54463142

These are my listings

>>54469911
Where did you buy it and can you use it?
There is a warning in coincards that says that amazon still requires the account in which the giftcard is being used to have a second method of payment and be located in the US, if not they will block the account.

can anyone of you confirm if that's richard heart

Reminder you need at least 69 XMR to make it.
>Use Monero Hoard Monero
>bury your XMR in a TailsOS persistent volume
>use Feather Wallet to piggybank your XMR
>never KYC, never reveal your ID
>this is the ultimate and final cuck for the glowies
Remember, if you are reading this
>You are the Resistance.

>>54473826
looks like a cool party. where is it?

Come back to BAT Parker

>>54455754
Second book of the trilogy. If you know, you know

>>54473826

Yo where da party at?

>>54476115
Swimng Pool's semi-annual beach bash in Athens.

>>54476143
wat??

Someone create an XMR hardware wallet already. I don't care about Ledger Nigger S or Trezer Model Xnigger, neither of these companies are spending the resources needed to support monero appropriately.

>>54476769
They let retards like you breathe.

>>54477113
Take that back right now. I am extremely dangerous with my mouth and I know one word that can knock out any opponent, in seconds. I don't like using it but if my posts in this thread are any evidence, I will use it to defend myself, when needed.

>>54476769
are you retarded? wallets works fine with ledger for years

>>54477514
Dunno why, but if I were to buy a cold wallet it'd def be ledger, thou i use ZenGo and sometimes the sylo wallet for nft storage.

Monero could definitely make use of a Monero-only Hardware Wallet.

>>54479149
found the nft-fag

>>54453474
Anons... im confused is this legit or na?

>>54481287

No, its clearly a scam.

>>54479149
>>54479241
Get a usb, encrypt usb partition/container, load your wallet, unmount partition/container. Fucking idiots want it to cook tendies too?

>>54453474
I am a retard, how do you connect the Gupax bundled P2Pool to a private Monero node that requires an RPC username and password?

>>54484363
>>54453474
Nevermind, I am extra retarded. P2Pool seems to require a public node, whether you control it or not. I would like to know what the use case of a passworded private node is then.

>>54453521
Hey anon, can you enlighten me a little bit about I2p, id like to get into it, im a seinen manga artist and for the longest time ive wanted to start a manga series complitely anonemously. Is i2p functional to set up a site where i can publish a manga and maybe have tips avaible using monero? The main goal is to see if i can create a manga as a fully no name artist. Pic rel is a page just to show im genuenly curious

>>54484789

Yep, this is actually very easy if you have basic webmaster skills. You can either host the site yourself or use a $5 VPS. Either way you maintain full anonymity i.e. the IP address of the server is never revealed.

A static HTML page with the manga images + an XMR donation address would work just fine.


To get a feel for things try installing the browser bundle and doing some browsing.

Follow the instructions here: >>54454585

and then check out an eepsite aggregator like notbob.i2p

>>54485019
Thank you anon for responding, yess that seems perfect for me, ill start looking into it all properly then. Im also gona run an i2p node to help contribute, one more question or i think 2 more quick questions, is it better to use i2p within a VM that has linux? Also is it possible to run both a monero node and a i2p node without big trade off? I have pretty good pc set up id say top notch for 2020ish standards

every monero thread being 30% posts by OP with the same tired copypasta is probably the most bearish thing for this alt right now.

>>54485087
>Im also gona run an i2p node to help contribute,

If you install the browser bundle you're already running a node.


>is it better to use i2p within a VM that has linux?

Running Linux is better than Windows but for hosting that would only be adding unnecessary overhead.


>Also is it possible to run both a monero node and a i2p node without big trade off?

Sure, the I2P node only requires bandwidth, so if you have plenty there shouldn't be any issues.

>>54485108
>every monero thread being 30% posts by OP with the same tired copypasta is probably the most bearish thing for this alt right now.

You know what to do.

>>54485154
thank you anon im sold, ill dive in to the journey then, the community has gained a manga artist, one day when i have a few chapters set up with the site ill share it with you guys. all hail the ultimate privacy for artists and fck centralized platforms

>>54485180
high estrogen post
leave your emotions at the door.

>>54453521
>won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes.
My question is when it'll finally implode?

>>54485108
What exactly are you expecting, unboxing posts of people's drug purchases?

>>54485087
>Im also gona run an i2p node to help contribute
Make sure your listening port for the node is forwarded (open). You'll figure it out by looking into the router caps (Capabilities), Make sure it isn't U (Unreachable).

>>54485432
Ill make sure to do that anon

Reminder that Zcash has superior tech and will overtake Monero in the near future.

>>54465143
>5 out of 7 core devs are still anonymous
At least one of them could be fluffypony

>>54477514
>wallets works fine with ledger for years
closed source. imagine.

>>54485899
2 more weeks

>>54485220
>all hail the ultimate privacy for artists and fck centralized platforms
dangerously based, teetering on the edge of anti semetism

How profitable is monero mining with CPUs? What are the best CPUs to mine? What should I know?
I would need to earn at least $250 a month in XMR to make it cost-effective. I can buy around 12 CPUs like Ryzen 9 3900X, maybe even more.

>>54488630
I'd say by new gen AM5 if you can 7950x is on beastmode

>>54489145
7950x mines around 26k but I bet for that kind of money you could get several used 3900x systems, 16k each.
Unless electricity is expensive(at which point you shouldn't mine anyway) 3900x should still be the king.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKox6__hziY

>>54461691
I like the idea, but how would an e-book depository look like? That would probably require someone hosting no? A neocities page like that of the infodump would be easier to manage, but is more static. I'm also unsure about linking to torrents in there, but it should be fine, as long as it's just links to the content and doesn't host it.

>>54461694
>>54466843
>bitchan
There is some activity, but not as much as here, also a separate thread would probably need to go elsewhere on /g/ or /sci/ or possibly creating a new board.
>groupchats on xmpp/matrix
Seems nice, but considering that there will be activity once a week. Especially when we start, I think doing it in some general medium, like here, would attract much more people.

>>54461787
>I hope this does pan out though, would be very neat.
I do as well. A bookclub would be a nice way to get educated alongside other monerochads.

>>54453445
I was syncing my node for P2POOL mining and i came across this... what makes this happen? how do i fix it? do i have to go through the syncing process again? i was at 80% when this happened. I checked if there was a new release but i dont think there was

>>54457813
>moving your crypto back to fiat is like 30% and because there is a permanent blockchain layer it means that any business doing business in bitcoin will eventually need to pay like 20 to 30% in taxes killing the whole blockchain project in its tracks because it will be simply too expensive to deal with crypto
Absolutely true for Bitcoin. Monero solves this at least in part because of the privacy enhancements of ring signatures and stealth addresses. The problem comes with owning a brick and mortar and having your suppliers reporting their sales to you to the feds. Basically a Monero based parallel economy would have to be set up. Entire supply chains would have to switch to using Monero, or there would need to be some sort of fencing going on. However, for trades between individuals, or for services rendered, one could pretty much do that entirely outside of the prying eyes of the feds. The problem mostly comes with the potential of 3rd parties ratting you out due to their own reporting requirements.

>>54488630
>What are the best CPUs to mine?
https://xmrig.com/benchmark
>How profitable is monero mining with CPUs?
It's not, unless you have very cheap/ free electricity. And even if you do it takes a long time to make the money back that you spend on the CPU.
The only logical reasons to mine, are to secure the network and to heat your room.

>>54485220
Please be sure to drop the i2p link, I'm genuinely curious.

>>54453521
Now what?

>>54453521
What's the population of I2P in regards to markets compared to Tor? Is there a Dread equivalent? Even with it's current faults, there's still no better alternative to Tor in my opinion. Tor is easy to use in you just need a browser while I2P has the weird networking thing you have to run, putting an obstacle in front of users.

i'll try i2p this weekend
is the live usb distro niggertium a good option?

>>54489650
>>54490560
>3900x
>16kh
What are you smoking? Try 12kh, tops. XMRig Benchmarks are done by e-peen chasing LN2 or water cooling OC monkeys, in a normal rig you'll be lucky to reach 80% of those top numbers, even with low cl ram and tuning. 3900x do have the quickest ROI and am4 components are cheaper than am5.

>>54491449
dreadtoobigdsrxg4yfspcyjr3k6675vftyco5pyb7wg4pr4dwjq.b32.i2p

The only gripe I have with i2p is that you have to forward ports.

>>54485396
>My question is when it'll finally implode?

Once the hype peters out. Hype is the only thing keeping this house of cards standing and it can only be sustained for so many cycles until the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

>>54486045
>>5 out of 7 core devs are still anonymous
>At least one of them could be fluffypony

Fluffy doesn't code.

>>54485899
>Reminder that Zcash has superior tech and will overtake Monero in the near future.

Why are there so many Nigerians shilling Zcash these days?

>>54491318
Thank you anon, will do when i finally launch it with the first couple of chapters

>>54490091
>I like the idea, but how would an e-book depository look like? That would probably require someone hosting no? A neocities page like that of the infodump would be easier to manage, but is more static. I'm also unsure about linking to torrents in there, but it should be fine, as long as it's just links to the content and doesn't host it.

An e-book depository on I2P could host the files and serve them directly with no risk of takedown.

And hosting is cheap, you could easily run the whole thing on a $5 VPS.

>>54491444
>Now what?

Nothing, that's all you had to do, your node is up and running. Just keep running it.

Optionally, you can configure your browser's proxy settings and start browsing the darkweb.

>>54492307
Sayuri should cosplay as monero-chan
>>54492384
Tunnel creaction success rate dropped to 19%

>>54491449
>What's the population of I2P in regards to markets compared to Tor?

Pretty much most markets are still only on Tor but some have an I2P mirror.

The general wisdom is that it would be ideal if we all moved to I2P, though getting there is a bitch, as seen with how long its taking to get rid of BTC.

>Is there a Dread equivalent?

Dread is available on both Tor and I2P.


>Even with it's current faults, there's still no better alternative to Tor in my opinion. Tor is easy to use in you just need a browser while I2P has the weird networking thing you have to run, putting an obstacle in front of users.

The Tor browser installs and runs Tor just like the I2P browser installs and runs I2P. I have both installed on my desktop and both are as easy to use as the other.

Anyway, as has already been rehashed in these Generals: I2P is the superior option for hidden services for a variety of reasons and there are concerns about the security of Tor as outlined here:

>Is Tor Trustworthy and Safe?
https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

>>54492606
>Tunnel creaction success rate dropped to 19%

Yeah, it will vary, especially for a brand new node.

>>54492606
>Sayuri should cosplay as monero-chan

Heads would roll.

>>54492307
This a bit too late for me to see. Made a neocities page with tutorials for I2P. And started a torrent for The Sovereign Individual 2020 version epub. Get the magnet link from there https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#books my node isn't that well connected I presume so be patient. Also scroll through the site and tell me if there is anything to change/add etc.
>xmrbookclub.neocities.org

>finally bought back into monero
>unknown amount of monero
>I am miles away from owning 10+ monero

Going to start stacking Monero every paycheck. It's going to be my divorce/child support/hyperinflation fund

>>54492133
>The only gripe I have with i2p is that you have to forward ports.
No you don't have to forward ports. You can browse i2p without port forwarding.

Port forwarding helps a lot if you want to help more i2p packets flow through your i2p node.

>>54494424
I meant for hosting a hidden service, not just browsing.

>>54494609
You can host a monero node over i2p at your home without port forwarding. How come you need port forwarding for that?

>>54494662
Can you? Because I don't think you can.

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/node-i2p-zero.html

>>54494662
>>54494782
at least this is the guide I've diddled with in the past.

It says that your node should *work*, as in wallets can still get updated balances (not sure if only on localnet or also internet), but it just won't be contributing to the i2p network or the monero p2p network.

>>54494609
>I meant for hosting a hidden service, not just browsing.

Not necessarily. I briefly tried hosting an eepsite with I2Pd just to see and it worked fine.

>>54494844
peter griffin-ass chin. this bitch is so goddamn overrated with her floppy tits lmfao floppier by the minute

I want to know are there esports that pay in bitcoin or monero

these threads are dead as fuck now, 80% of the xmr transactions must be flooding attacks at this point.

>>54495596
Crypto is dead right now retard. It's a bear market.
Is this the new fud angle? 'hurr Durr these generals are dead"

>>54495618
this isn't even as dead as it's been honestly this is a comfy level of posters. I like this better than when it's busy.

>>54492246
Their CBDC failed so this is the next best thing.

>>54491444
Checked
I have the symetrical nat issue also. Aside from paying for a static ip, which i dont want to do, whats the options for resolving this? I know i2p will still function for me to browse, but the contributions to the network are basically nil.

This stock was at like 33 cents like 6 days ago should I invest into it?

>>54458161
Your cash app could be hacked and then you'd reverse the transaction and they'd get shafted. You controlling the phone number lowers the chance they get charged back. If you want to do things the easy way then there is usually another cost. Do a cash method if you don't trust people to have your phone number.

>>54486418

Cope harder, faggot. Z gang reprazent

>>54496343
I just wasn't sure if it was for a good reason or not, I don't mind I just didn't know it was a common thing.

>>54496179

Sell.

>>54458161
I use cashapp for onramping. It's significantly better than using KYC.

>>54453445
Kawaii Coin Desu!
OwO

Question: Is it better to keep an old wallet with a bunch of transactions or create a new one and send all XMR to the new wallet for privacy reasons?

Or is it good to have a very old wallet since my transactions will get mixed in with the others all the time??

Feels good being early just like 2015 but the pain is going to be immense

Citadel chads

stay strong bros
death to fiat

>>54453521
dangerously based

>>54461062
>High res gilf pictures
Where and how?

>>54494367
Based

I remember when I first heard about Monero years ago I thought I should stack this

Better late than never

BTC has first mover advantage and ETH has defi but who cares

Want money? Buy xmr. Want stuff? Send xmr. Ez. defi isn't that great other than to lose your funds in a hack.

>>54499315
Changing wallets is an OK precaution of of mitigating the hypothetical risk of xmr being broken 50 yeras down the road. I wouldnt worry that much about, if your not doing shady stuff with it or are a targeted induvidual. Im not an expert, but there might be value in having a lot of transactions too

>Monero (XMR) | Why North Korea's Obsessed with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP7v9HdUceY

>>54495618
>Crypto is dead right now retard. It's a bear market
Another retard on the biz who holds icp and Luna
Profits can be made in the bear market just by looking at the right places. Altcoinistdao is where to find alts

>>54493149
Alright the old I2P torrent didn't seem to work, now I've done it properly, updated the links at xmrbookclub.neocities.org and put it up on postman.i2p
>http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=69603

Also added a magnet link for a clearnet torrent for those that aren't (yet!) on I2P. I would appreciate feedback and plans as to when or how could we make this book club happen. The Sovereign Individual is just a placeholder, put it there because it was the most popular suggestion. I would vouch for it as well, but if something else would better, let me know.

I am blown away by how cheap, and fast, it is to transact in monero. Let's assume that Monero experiences Bitcoin levels of adoption. Would the transaction fee remain competitive?

>>54501248

Unfathomably based. Post this every General to keep users aware.

>>54501623
>Let's assume that Monero experiences Bitcoin levels of adoption. Would the transaction fee remain competitive?

Fees go down as TXs go up.

>>54501623
>Would the transaction fee remain competitive?
It would be lower than Bitcoin, yes. Base fees go down as a function of transaction volume.

>>54501623
Yes. Thanks to tail emission and adaptive blocksize

>>54500000
Nice digits. Not that i would buy ai pictures, but that pic is from moneromarket io

Monero is a cocaine-backed stable coin.

Just how based AND red pilled can one crypto currency be?

>>54502628

We're hitting based levels that shouldn't even be possible.

bump for seraphis + jamtis.
next network upgrade to monero is slated bring in

> 128 ring size
> full view-only wallets
> privacy preserving light wallet tiers

You should strive to have at least 69 XMR, until the next network upgrade. Good luck anon, see you in the neo cypher cities.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xGEBRQU1lzw
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3oNX9NjoIQ4o/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sppcRLqkgbri/

>>54501201
Fuck off moon fag

Thanks to monerosupplies, got a stack of these in the mail yesterday.

>>54504110
I wonder how the Monero Chan plushie sale is going, she looks like she's still in stock. I wonder how much longer before they get mailed out. Apparently they still have to make a certificate of authenticity for her which will be a plastic card with a picture of her, like some sort of driver's license or ID card for her?

>>54504270
Dunno, im not a plushie kinda guy, but its a fun idea

>>54504270
Anon said ~2 weeks about a week ago.

imagine having an army of plush monerochans in your home. I'm jelly.

let's say hypothetically monero is outlawed for whatever reason, is it reasonable to assume a revolutionary force that sees monero as the answer to many of societies problems, would infact be very scary for those governments, like, system threatening

>>54505548
You are completely off track.

"outlawed for whatever reason"
enforced through what means? With what manpower?
Completely silently without alerting the whole of the public who will now try it out just to spite "the man"?
good fucking luck LOL. They tried that a few decades ago with pirated media, but I'm watching Spirited Away in Greek right now so you tell me how effective that all was.

>>54505548
>is it reasonable to assume a revolutionary force that sees monero as the answer to many of societies problems, would infact be very scary for those governments, like, system threatening

Probably. Which is why Team Monero has been preparing for a war with the State since day one.

Don't worry about it, they lost the last crypto war and they'll lose the next one.

>>54505638
>>54505648
I just think governments will be very afraid of this, honestly they might even use violence against those who want to use monero, which I find unfortunate but, there are 2 sides to that coin right

>>54505685
>honestly they might even use violence against those who want to use monero

This is why we push I2P so hard: if we do everything e.g. hosting, trading, transacting, mining, etc via the darknet then there's nobody they can target, nothing they can take down.

Bottom line: if your crypto isn't a bona fide threat its not truly permissionless & decentralized and therefore not worth using.

>>54505742
Based

>>54505742
right, it would be truly unfortunate if that violence is carried out though right

>>54505770
>right, it would be truly unfortunate if that violence is carried out though right

lol against who? If there was any *credible* threat of state violence DNMs wouldn't still be a thing.

>>54505785
I'm saying if people were to try foolishly to meddle with monero or prevent it from being used, I would be deeply remorseful for the violence that had to occur

>>54505793

lol what violence? You talk like a glowie.

>>54505808
in the revolution

>>54505811
>in the revolution

A digital revolution that will result in human casualties? Never saw that coming!

>>54505685
I feel like this line of thinking unwittingly assigns too much power to the state and too little power to the individual. There is far more that goes into something becoming a crime than the government just smacking a gavel down and *bam* now the cops are on their way to drag you off to prison forever, bucko.

Also I highly doubt that any government wing or movement would be able to get away with indiscriminately perpetrating violence against random tech enthusiasts without literal uprisings in the streets. Just one of them needs to be black and suddenly this is an issue about the police brutalizing unbanked minorities at the behest of big banks, or whatever fucking story they cook up.

Uncle Sam has nothing to fear from the monero community. We can do business with him just the same as the banks can.

>>54505767
>hey! putting your knee and your entire weight on a federal agent's neck is a crime! Stop it right now!

>>54505901
>Just one of them needs to be black
mental outlaw i can't breath

>>54505836
implying we don't live in a physical world

>>54457122
me

why is adoption not growing anymore

>>54453445
Xrp VS monero VS BSV satoshi's vision

Final battle

>>54507057
>why is adoption not growing anymore

It is, numbuts, ISIS are back in the news for soliciting Monero-only donations while the number of Monero-only markets just keeps on rising.

>>54507101
xrp wins

>>54507318
Satoshi wins

>>54507101
>XRP
No value proposition. CBDCs will not run on this bullshit chain and the lawsuit shows that. They will make their own systems.
>Bitcoin shit version
No comment. You know the answer

>>54507126
>numbuts
>ISIS
With these guys on our corner, how can we lose?

do we have a leader?

>>54507931
Not really, closest thing I think would be the dev team but we don't even know who like 80% of them are.
Even they aren't really the final word and aren't really organized more than they need to be to get the job done.

Any time someone tries to unilaterally make decisions about even minor, monero-adjacent projects gets harasses into retirement by the community. (see: Erciccione and the Haveno terms of use)

>>54507931
>do we have a leader?
Yes.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1680918794159593.webm

fuck this ongoing cbdc dystopia making me more and more xmr maxi each day

>>54508402
Agreed. And fuck the king CBDC shitcoin himself.

>https://soundcloud.com/bridgefordtrust/delivering-direction-and-control-episode-7
a podcast with Dr. Daniel Kim!

>>54503110
>Buying XMR
>Coinbase
?

>>54508402
They are all going to fail.
My CryptMi payment is enough for my transactions.

>>54454989
SBF was well respected...

I have a bitfodl and a sryptosteel capsule. But the cryptosteel capsule is truly frustrating to use. But I guess that makes it safe against normies.

>>54507126
Nice that makes it the second XMR multisig DNM, no? I expected there to be more since it got fixed, but multisig is still cumbersome from what I've been able to deduce. But multisig is ultimately still more secure than escrow so we (hopefully) will see more and more XMR-only multisig DNMs as the markets compete to offer the best experience, prices, security, etc.

>>54461527
>>54493149
>>54501722

Alright I haven't gotten any complaints, so I guess we'll go with the original plan of 3 chapters per week starting from the next Monday to next Sunday (16th of April). The site has been updated accordingly. Go grab the book from there or from the postman tracker:
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#books
>http://tracker2.postman.i2p/index.php?view=TorrentDetail&id=69603
If you don't know how to get into I2P check out either the posts in the OP or the options at
>https://xmrbookclub.neocities.org/#guide

>>54470311
Use LocalMonero you idiot

>>54511776
Kek, imagine submitting to KYC on a P2P exchange. Some people have lost the plot entirely

>>54500961
Funny how the least likely regime to promote a tech like xmr is the one that is using it the most.
Ofc that using xmr by north korea citizens must be a big nono and probably leads to concentration camp if caught.

>>54508906
This is all theoretical and ignore a million real life reasons it's not true.
You have to use the internet to interact and people can DEDUCE things.
>I"M TECHNICALLY ANON YOU CANT PUT ME IN JAIL
>yea well we tracked your IP throuhg your VPN as that's extremely easy and your 1s and 0s indicate you interacted with said platform at said time and then given your 4chan posts we deduced you were a faggot and bought a tv over here
>NOOOOOOOOOO

>>54500961
best korea

Should I buy now or wait until it dips a bit more?

>>54512410
I know thats posted for the kek's but there are a lot of people who actually think like this, even in this technocratic hellhole

>>54512545
>dips a bit more?
Isn't the whole purpose of XMR to be a $150 stable coin?

>>54512410
Let's take the dictatorship north of USA. The dictator froze back account of people who donated to the cause. Can't happen with XMR. But.. you would have to get XMR whole cash is still around, later everything is going to be harder.

>>54512626
Bank, while. Fracking autocorrect.

>>54512410
I like the reverse psychology angle, but it could do with some creepy Big Brother eyes or something

>>54512545
also, how "safe" is it to run the Monero wallet in simple mod with a Ledger? It sounds like the advanced mode is way safer, but it's whole fucking 90GB and you have to update the blockchain regularly. Is simple mode good enough?

>>54512688
Using someone else's node is fine as long as you always check transaction fees before confirming a transaction.

>>54512688
That all depends on how much trust you have in the remote node.

>>54512739
And if the transaction fee is too high, can you just change the node? What is considered a normal amount in terms of fees?

Alright chads, pros and cons of going all in on XMR?

>>54512750

>>54512747
I run my own node, but presumably you can switch nodes fairly trivially. Fees should be roughly a few pennies, but don't stress if it's reasonable either direction around that, mostly you're jon the lookout for some insane number like a 0.1 XMR transaction fee.

>>54453534
What's the math for XMR price to break even to secure the network?

I assume as supply slowly goes up from tail emissions there needs to be more mining power to secure the network, so price does in theory need to go up eventually?

One interesting thing I noticed.
Comaparing https://www.openhub.net/p/bitcoin to https://www.openhub.net/p/monero I can see that bitcoin has 550k line of code and monero has 1 228k line of code.
Bitcoin code took an estimated 154 years of effort and monero took an estimated 348 years of effort.
Bitcoin SUCKS.

>>54511581
Sounds good anon, thank you. So discussion will take place on April 16th for chapters 1-3 of The Sovereign Individual.
I heard zcash is starting a book club too. What do you think they are reading?

>>54513578
>zcash book club
Probably picrel

>>54513578
>I heard zcash is starting a book club too.

MFW

>>54501623
>Bitcoin levels of adoption
you mean zero? btc is only a speculative asset. there is no adoption, xmr at least has darknet adoption

>>54512756
go 50% xmr 50% then do the following
>xmr is widely banned/delisted, price crashes
convert your btc to xmr
>xmr is legitimized by regulatory clarity, not banned, price pumps
convert your btc to xmr

>>54514016
>>xmr is legitimized by regulatory clarity,

WTF are you smoking?

>>54513578
>So discussion will take place on April 16th for chapters 1-3 of The Sovereign Individual.
Yes, that is correct. For the first week I think it should be kept in here as to concentrate it. I will probably post some summary and a few personal opinions to get the discussion started.

>What do you think they are reading?
probably picrel, you have to know their theory if you want to suck up to them so hard. PoS is a step in the good direction, I'm just waiting for a dynamic monetary policy enacted in accordance with the Federal Reserve.

But >>54513644 might be their introductory read.

>>54504270
>>54504453
hey guys. cert just needs to be touched up and printed which i hope will be done within the next 2 weeks but could also take 3. i checked the shop wallet today and every incoming tx has a corresponding order so everyone is accounted for.

picrel is near-final cert, hope you like it

>>54513644

Cope harder, faggot. Monero needs Zcash's tech to survive, oh the irony.

>>54513734

What an absolute chad.

>>54514016

Zcash already has regulatory clarity.

>>54515290
>faggot
that's not politically correct of you. your corpo overlords are going to cancel your shill-pay.

>>54515335

No need to shill what shills itself.

>>54515312
>Reported to zooko for unauthorized use of the ZEC© logo.
Also, make your own general Zbaggies

>>54515379

Its much more fun pissing you chuds off kek

>>54515290
>Monero needs Zcash's tech to survive, oh the irony.

Not really. Most of the tech used in Monero was originally developed for other projects, so its just more of the same.

BTW, thanks for paying for all the R&D.

>>54515325
>Zcash already has regulatory clarity.

yeah, we know lol

>>54511581
Going to have to read up on torrent over i2p. Will definitely be giving this a read though

is there a smart contract type privacy coin? sorry im retarded. i know almost nothing about monero in particular

>>54515706

Sure, you can add smart contracting to a privacy coin but that immediately weakens its privacy guarantees.

>>54500000
observed, witnessed and checked

>>54515444

Enjoy getting sued into oblivion.

>>54515477

No regulatory clarity = no moon mission.

>>54514555
They look really cool, but i love little girls.

Can someone fill me in on the difference between mining p2pool from the monero gui vs using gupax? Mines running ~1800h/s

>54515878
Good, enjoy the moon mission. looks like its going well so far.

>>54515863
>Enjoy getting sued into oblivion.

Uh oh, somebody get MoneroCorp's legal dept on the line!

23% of all monero transactions are to do with CP

>>54516113
>23% of all monero transactions are to do with CP

Problem?

>>54516113
thankfully it's nigh impossible to prove you right or wrong.

>>54516113
Prove it then. Oh wait, you're a fucking anti privacy shill.

>>54516113
uh based

>>54515325
Yeah. We know.

What wallet is better bros? OneKey or Trezor?
I heard that both are open source hardware and software but Trezor is not open source firmawre and OneKey is (though I haven't confirmed if the trezor firmware is open). Someone said that the Trezor touchscreen sucked and they switched to OneKey. What are your thouhgts? They both look good tbf

>>54516401

Tails on USB with persistent partition.

>>54516505
Second that. Cheap, fully open source and extreme functionality.

NEW THREAD: >>54516744
>NEW THREAD: >>54516744
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>NEW THREAD: >>54516744

>>54516505
>>54516670
Is the firmware on Trezor open source too?
>fully open source and extreme functionality.
OneKey is open source software, firmware, and hardware.
If I learn that Trezor is also open firmware, I'll consider it. I'd like to know what makes Trezor better than OneKey, because I've been hearing that people like OneKey more

>>54516759
Okay, but why should i fork over my money for an OTS hardwarw wallet when i can just make a usb with tails persistence for a fraction of the price? Not to mention, having a hot wallet in tails is a one stop shop for wallet,pgp,tor browser and a pile of other privacy tools.

>>54516823
I've been seeing all sorts of weird threads as of late that are literal shopping network tier shill dialogues. This >54516759 homo
and the zcucks reek of it. AI at best, more jewish games at worst.