/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for buy BBBY and GME if you wanna wagmi

>>54416197
This picture is literally me.

STOCKS GO UP FOREVER

i have no stocks, all my cash is locked up ion IRA and CDs and Ibonds, i have about 25k to play with, how cani double that in less than a month?

The events of the last month have convinced me that we are in the final days of the United States. feelsbadman

>>54416237
DPST shares

Man I don't know what to say but I just REALLY dislike black people.....

>$5 million isn't enough for the blacks now
>now they want $7.6 million which is almost 3 times the annual budget for California
If you haven't bought UONE yet you're a fool.

>>54416237
NVDA short

I dont know what to do tonight since i'm not high on shrooms

>>54416337
Have you tried getting high off shrooms?

>>54416344
thats the plan tomorrow I had to work out today because I didn't make it to the gym yesterday

>>54416337
Why aren't you?

Reading another hentai doujin to pass the time. Married dude's hot wife wants to get knocked up. Dude can't do his "duty" cause he's got a thing for boobs; he wants a double tit fuck. (Frankly the dude's an idiot; his wife's hot as hell with curves in the proper places). Anyway the wife brings home her friend. Who's got curves in the right places to. Problem solved. They both take turns draining him dry. By the 2nd volume the friend of the wife has basically moved in with them where he uh does his "duty" to both regularly. (Wife still isn't knocked up though)

>>54416370
And how do I profit off this form stocks?

>>54416370

Sleep tight, Steeler!

>>54416254
Loaded on June calls. Will slurp more if it's red monday

I wonder how that guys doing? He's so young to be chugging boxes wine and handles of booze. Hopefully he's back on the right track.

>>54416370
Damn, bullish for TQQQ. I shouldn't have sold in October

IM GOING TO DO IT
IM GOING TO SHORT COINBASE

And CUBI or MCB?

I want to turn my house into a smart home, but I know that if I wait 5 years then I’ll be able to do it better for less. Tech deflation is real

>>54416430
DON'T DO IT, YOU'LL PUMP THE MARKETS

>>54416258
this would be logical but retards aren't. nvidia could carry on going up for another month or two and shorts cost money anyway

>>54416430
Man what the fuck I get this meme.

>>54416237
Vegas -> roulette -> all on red

>>54416443
I haven't bought a laptop since 2016 because of this.

>>54416430
FUUUUUUUUUCK

SCHWAB HAS NO SHARES TO BORROW

>>54416465
Computer improvement absolutely flatlined and it's not worth buying unless it breaks or you never had one to begin with.

t. oldfag

>>54416245
Jus' remember to say you an ADOS when they ask onna census.

>>54416450
Probably true. It's a trade that *can* double in a month. Not saying it will.
Could've said any number of leveraged or options plays as well, but that's boring.

>>54416465
Laptops are a more mature technology than smart home tech. I give you permission to buy one. As long as it’s for productivity and not gaming

Anyway, regarding stocks, today's S&P candle has me deeply concerned.

>>54416459
Explain it to the rest of us

>>54416589
tldr love from Kazakhstan

oh boy I sure hope next week will be full of beyond parody /pol/ shit and green candles. this week was awesome

I’m down ~25% on SQQQ. My average is ~40. How fucked am I

>he didn't harvest his gains and go to cash today
>mfw everybody forgot we're in a bear market

>>54416565
I dont know next week might see red,but not monday.monday crabs

I made $588 today from stocks

>>54416637
>broker wouldn't take my afterhours order

Goddamn weekend...

>>54416637
>we're in a bear market
The fed literally pivoted the banks,and you think theres a bear?

Yeah, somebody wanna tell Mr. Chang to lay off my Micron? Thanks.

Finally crossed into five figure hell today!

>>54416220
Ponder the fragrance

>>54416618
Why do you do this to yourself

>>54416370
Thanks just sold 100k

>>54416794
How were you able to live on 4figs or were you a neet?

I've been writing puts on FRC for two weeks now and literally can't stop making money. what am I gonna do /biz/ bros when those redditor premiums are gone?

>>54416825
I was referring to portfolio size haha

>>54416852
Nice,now you should try leverage,if you havent already that is

>>54416834
>I've been writing puts on FRC for two weeks now
So you mean that you're down enormously? Post positions.

>>54416465
i bought my first and last laptop in 2012

>>54416958
Mine is from 2012, had Win 8 on it when it was given to me. Some of the keys stop working every few days and I have to bend the body some until they start working again for a while. It's served very well for me for 3 years now.

>>54416817
I expected more pain in the market, simple as

The HDD size race is kinda shocking. First HDD was only 30 mb. Now I can get a 22TB drive. Can finally fit almost all my data on a single drive again. At this rate by the time I'm 50 40TB drives should be common place.

>>54417011
I do as well, but I mostly stay out of overnight holding and am like a hunter awaiting game/prey, that being...*the big one*. Until that great day arrives, I merely surf a few intraday waves, making small gains here and there, while keeping my capital prepared to all into...THE FUCKIN' DIPARINO.

>>54417035
holy fuck they are up to 22TB now? The next Battlefield game is going to take an entire month to download once EA gets wind of this

>>54417080
I should have included though, that when the shit starts THE GREAT ELDROPERA, I shall surf whatever I can of the DOWNWALL via *leveraged inverse*.

Opinions on AQB? Seems like a promising company.

>>54417035
not if call of duty has anything to say about that
>>54416637
no one's giving out discounts on cash. don't get too excited.

>>54417108
Yeah my timing is off and I got too cocky

tonight I'll be having the Big New Yorker
ticker:YUM

>>54417035
>by the time I'm 50
Take the me pill and at that point have deleted everything but a tiny holding of family photos/videos and a few essential text documents. Let the Internets store everything else. All you need is 2 little thumb drives, one a GNU/Linux installation, and another to backup the aforementioned which are mostly kept on OneDrive. I once saw Linus Torvalds comment "Only wimps use tape backup. REAL men just upload their important stuff on ftp and let the rest of the world mirror it.". While I don't do exactly that, I did take an essence from it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/11vixwx/here_at_superstonk_we_dont_just_read_the_news_we/ last day to get our voices heard on rules put forth to help end the financial terrorism.

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>>54417174
>Let the Internets store everything else
Sorry bro, that's a meme. I have some rare scat JAVs that you won't find anymore on the internet. Not without paying, anyway.

>>54417143
My timing is flawless, it's the markets that are off.

I notice a lot of places are switching to paper products instead of plastic.
Subway bags are paper. Walmart is some shitty reusable fiber that rips easily. Samsung soundbars have plain brown boxes. Sony headphones come in paper box instead of plastic ones.
They'll spin this as "environmentalism" but as a business, the only reason they'd change this is because the costs are cheaper. I think they're preparing to decouple from China in a few years

>>54417175
this has to be bait

>>54417175
>regulators are gonna regulate
anon you retarded?

wtf the Hut doesn't have a tracker?
how am I supposed to know when to put pants on and the name of my personal chef?
short YUM

I bumped into the hot girl at work on my way out the door. she said Ugh! and walked off, but I could tell it meant more than that. needless to say this is incredibly bullish

Opinions on AQB? Seems like a shit company.

>>54417353
gmo isn't inherently bad, or a reason to shun a product, pretty much all sugar beets are gmo supposedly. I am a bit bothered by the "if we build it they will come" philosophy of the company where they are aggressively building production without establishing a market.

NRGU and other oil ETFs look like they're about to dump.
>going straight for 3 days with basically no change day to day
Oil pumped and the market pumped but underlying oil stocks did fucking nothing.

However 6/11 of the stocks underlying the goo have their earnings reports at the end of april, so the stocks will definitely pump which means the ETF will pump at the end of the month. Probably back from 400 dollars now to 360 or so. Then it'll have a quick run up to 550 or so by the end of the month/early may. Then there will be a marketwide selloff in late may/early june.

>>54417218
im having calzones tonight. dough is currently proofing in the oven

>>54417200
I think it's "funny" that whenever democrats win elections you get extra taxes, like plastic bag taxes (but the 'bags' they sell as reusable are all garbage that breaks the minute you put a case of beer in them) and then the cuckpublicans never get rid of them. But oh well.

>>54417416
having worked in bakeries and pizza shops for years i just can't do it at home
the smell of dough makes me retch

i think i have about $10k too many SPY puts, how're y'all doin'?

>>54417460
rip

>>54417200
sounds like WRK might be a buy again

>>54417486
yes

Think I am clocking in for the night
wake up 6am and get high as hell on shrooms
and enjoy some coffee

>>54417542
k

>>54417555
I wish I had any energy to bobo/mumu post anon

>>54417566
I wish I was could close 4chan and play video games but I have a problem even though nothing is happening and can't will myself to leave.
I am in the middle of legend of oasis right now.

>>54416197
wtf this image is literally me for the last 15 years straight

>>54417587

>>54417542
See ya on sunday

>>54417406
The oil rally was just shorts getting crushed. It's going back down to goblin town (until the SCO/BRICS make their move).

>>54417609
I have always felt playing video games and doing something else like watching tv simultaneously was a recipe for ADHD. But I might.

>>54417622
>XOM shit in some nigger country got nationalized
This is it. Dump monday.

>>54417641
Yeah, heard about Chad doing that but I wonder what country it was in.

>>54417588
Me for the past 5 years. But I wanted to go see the olympics in 2020, it's just shit happened.

>>54417647
Kek.

>>54416197
Credit spreads are your frens, so is Theta

Flights to asia are 3x the precovid price

>>54417587
We wait for a momentous event to occur that never happens. We look forward to the end of the week being a time of relaxing but if no special weekly event is done the night disappears

>>54417542
Legalize LSD.

SCVLeady

>>54417769
Everyone needs free drugs

Bull bros

Every week we try to save Bobo

And every week he scorns us

I guess you can't save everyone

>>54417728
I can't afford my coomer holidays anymore ...

>PLTR

How do you all keep track of my trades? I'm drowning in Capital Gain Events. I suck at spreadsheeting because I get confused by averaging the cost and making partial sales of holdings.

>>54417794
Laugh it up mumu
we'll be back under 4k in no time

>>54417833
my broker fills out my tax form for me

>>54417833
You don't have to report every single trade.

>>54416370
This is very bullish thank you

Damn... two days in a row I had sad pathetic pre-made sandwiches from KR for dinner... And my KR doesn't even have a shy anime girl out front...

>>54417928
Swung some KR lately. Good times. I'm a King Soopers fag, myself.

>>54417218
Tyrene.

Weekend smg degens, will DRV go up like cray cray again. Based on this answer i will choose what cartoon to watch tonight.

>venture brothers
>bobs burgers

I cannot tell you what one correlates with what answer to keep bias out of this investment decision.

>futures

>>54417794
>>54417858
basing my long term play off monday
if negative we're ranging
if positive climbing wall of worry

>>54418106
>pasts

>>54418106
>>54418160
>Presents

>>54417971
Obviously Venture Brothers.

Surprised it’s on joutube, we should watch this for movie night
https://youtu.be/q9d30RBJkf0
Rollover

>>54416245
A country like the US collapses slowly over the course of like 100 years. If you're right then we're barely going through the motions of losing super power status, let alone societal collapse.

>>54416637
Unfortunately I did go to cash minus some 3$ puts on boil I sold a time ago that expire Thursday, so we probably pump even more while I despondently watch from the sidelines. MU’s trash earnings and still pumping spooked me too much to stay in stocks though, that was some weird price action.

>>54416197
Why do these types block out the sunlight? I love light.

>>54418271
>MU’s trash earnings and still pumping spooked me too much to stay in stocks though, that was some weird price action.
Hedge funds gotta tell their customers at the Oklahoma Firefighter's Pension Fund that they caught some of that amazing tech rally on the Q1 statement, dontcha know?

I bought SOXS twice this week and made a chunk of cash both times. Thats right, I made money on bear ETF during an all green week. Dont be jealous, not everyone is cut out to be a stock market trader.

SCHW is free money right?

Dont forget to drink your hot turmeric milk before bed anons. Im going to go play Battletech.

>>54418342
Schwab checking account is pretty low yield, but if you can actively remember to sweep your excess into their money markets then its kind of like free money.

>>54417482
Ah thanks for that tip anon. I had an idea to focus on pulp&paper as a "commodity" but wasn't sure of the big names involved. I don't see it as a power play, but a good staples divvy play (though I already have some WMT bags)

>>54417697
Thoughts on wheeling? I've discussed options with you during the last week and you seem pretty educated

A bull just flew over my house

>>54418300
They’ll probably talk about revolutionary AI, but little do they know my 1996 Heroes of Might and Magic already had AI all figured out, and it’s a little nigger I have to spend all game chasing around the map because it zeroes in on my obscure castles.

>>54418403
Tornadoes will do that.

>>54418438
Speaking of HoMM, have you tried Songs of Conquest? It's in early access, but Sseth shilled it last month. It's pretty comfy, nice pixel art, but it's early access and runs in >Unity

Are you white midwestern chudzones okay? I'm reading about the tornado(s) going through that part of the country right now, seems like lots of places are getting heemed. A mass casualty event happened in Illinois at a theater during a death metal concert. The roof got heemed and collapsed onto the concertgoers.

>>54418388
Wheeling can be very profitable but do it on something you'd like to own properly.
For example, I've wheeled RTX and knowing Raython is a good company I wouldn't mind holding it while I sell calls against it.

Ah crap if TDA anons say the cut over is as bad as it is they might completely axe their data APIs. Anyone know of a (preferrably free) source for live+historic market data? I could deal with historic for now but would like live.

>>54418388
>>54418602
Also word of warning
Do not chase a high credit for the sake of having a high credit. Sure it may work and be nice for a minute but you won't want to hold a meme stock you don't like just because the Put offered a high credit.

>>54418676
Works for the flipside too. Never sell a call under your cost basis or some bitch fuck senator will pump your bags and you'll have to roll a LEAP just to not be forced to sell at a loss. Fuck NANC and FUCK MU

WE'RE IN BULL MARKET
WE TOLD YOU PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT

>>54418676
>Do not chase a high credit for the sake of having a high credit
I fall for these occasionally. So often the stock just dumps and then a few months later the IV collapses too. You're left holding a bag with no premium left to gain from it.

>>54418871
In cases like this it's better to do a credit spread or some kind of defined risk method.
Nothing wrong with trying to get that credit but it shouldn't be via owning the stock sort of speak.

>>54418779
we literally are

>>54416197
did he's dead?

>>54418602
I mean, here's a wheel I only just started tracking. I did a few CCs against UUUU last year and it had some decent premium while it swung between 6-9$.
I might roll over to CCJ after this is done, because it has way more strikes and liquidity (albeit at a higher price, which makes stacking shares a bit harder)
I also have 80 WMT shares via work that I will offload into a TFSA when I get 100, and then write against them too.

>>54416989
>have to bend the body some until they start working again for a while
You should probably pop the back panel off and see if your battery is swelling so you can replace it, common issue with laptops.
>>54417035
If you have the money you can get 100tb SSD's in the same form factor as a regular hard drive, and then there's backup tapes for the actually insane/archivists.

>>54417971
>Venture Bros or fucking bobs burgers
The fact you would even compare the two makes me want to come through the internet and slap the piss out of your mouth. Venture Brothers or you're a massive faggot, simple as.

>>54418944
financial equivalent of palmistry

Nintendo, tencent (for epic games exposure) and atvi msft merger 90/95 bull call spreads

shrimple is as shrimple does

>>54419002
No, battery is fine, it just pulls out the back. I take it out when I have to take the keyboard off every now and then. For whatever reason, taking it off and putting it back gets the keys working again for a little while. It's usually very specific keys (the 4, 5 and 6 on the number pad for example) that stop working and no amount of blowing, banging, etc. gets them working, but taking the whole thing open and putting it back together, or bending it all just right usually works.

>>54419051
If you've ever spilled anything on it or live in a humid climate you might have some corrosion in the port where the keyboard cable plugs into the mainboard, or it might just be making shitty contact on some of the pens. You can usually get a replacement for 30-50$ at most and see if that resolves it.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>54419064
I just want to say that this is the gayest april fools day prank the site has ever pulled

>>54419051
>>54419002
It's obviously something within the board circuits, btw, because both of the CTRL buttons stop working sometimes, as opposed to only one of them, and as I said, the side by side 4, 5, 6. Sometimes both CTRL and A start glitching. Imagine trying to select all!

IF youve haven't ever felt so good in life you have ma nic episode have you really lived?
t. having one right now due to INTC gains

>>54419077
blessed, checked

ive never looked at a thread on /biz/ outside of this general
i dont even know how i found /smg/

>>54419017
Funny you mention palmistry, I just did a reading on the markets, since I said I would try to do it on sunday or friday, a few weeks ago.

>Subject (Markets)
Five of Cups: "A card of loss, but something remains". Suggests inheritance, transmission, or perhaps success but with frustration.

>Context
Six of Cups: A card of "memories of the past". For example, reflecting on childhood, enjoyment, and things that have vanished, though some readings reverse this. The inverted card suggests renewal and the future.

>Event
Temperance: Suggests economy, moderation, frugality, management, accommodation

>Action
The Chariot (rev): Suggests riotous action, quarrels, disputes, litigation, and defeat

>Outcome
Ace of Swords: Suggests triumph by force or excess, conquest, extremes.


I think it accurately sums up the markets. What are the odds that I'd pull two cards in that configuration for the subject and context? We just had a bad year and long bear market, and everyone seems divided as to whether it's over or if it hasn't even begun, and the ambiguous nature of the Six of Cups' placement aligns with that. It doesn't even say whether this reading is for the past or future.
It seems that frugality or accommodation (perhaps Fed rates?) will lead to "defeat" or upset on the markets, perhaps capitulation from bears or bulls, with the outcome being a "force of triumph", which I take to read as the Fed overdoing it. But who the fuck knows, this is as accurate as trading with [thing I don't like]

are some good banks gonna bounce back??

i was thinkin could it be a decent easy play.

>>54419091
I remember when I first came to biz in Jan 2020. The outside was so awful. Thankfully searching for "stock" in the search box led me here and I've felt no need to venture outside since.

>>54419111
The only other tolerable thread I use is /cmmg/. They're educated on the macro, but without being too PM schizo

>>54419071
Everybody gets a female broker bot waifu

>>54419090
Beneath the appearances of gains the valuations are recklessly placed and will be knocked over/spilled. All of the "being in control" has provided only a very temporary illusion that due to lack of sober behaviors according to underlying actualities, the bulls will take a sword up the ass.

>>54419111
Checked. Some of the other threads are cool, I like the guys in monero and some of the dudes in pmg. Most everything else is pure shit with one or two notable exceptions.

>>54419123
>this content may violate our content policy
no you will have sterilized government approved globohomo bots and you'll like it

>>54416370
I see you are an accredited financial advisor. Following your advice I just bought 100k hentai mangas. Thank you.

>>54418920
I don't do spreads. Feels like a jewish scam to get more commissions.
My risk is defined by the position size. Cash secured, always.

I think the key is what you wrote in your earlier post - make sure you're harvesting premiums against positions you'd actually be content to hold. In particular, plays with asymmetric risk/reward and limited perceived downside risk. If you're too bullish on the short term upside potential though, its better to just hold stock directly.

In my experience, it's generally good to sell puts or CCs that are feeding someone buying calls. It's generally dangerous to sell puts that are feeding shorts. But it took some time to learn this, and I still make blunders occasionally.

I've got a question, If traders are levered to the gills why is financial sector leverage receding every year after 2007? This doesn't fit with the irresponsible over leveraged view everyone has of the market.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/2022-november-financial-stability-report-leverage.htm

Is there some part of the market I'm not seeing that is more leveraged?

>>54419135
>sell puts that are feeding shorts
Can you explain that one? Like you're selling puts into stocks that are heavily shorted? So you're fueling the shorter's hedge?

>>54419147
Apparently lots of firms are doing 0dte spreads on SPY/SPX

>>54418820
You stole this from Mott Capital didn't you

>>54416197
Another good charting platform is Symbolik. Started by Tom DeMark, if you know anything about DeMark indicators they are used all over the Street on almost every trading desk, You can pay for it through the site and not have to get a Bloomberg terminal to get them.

https://symbolik.com/

https://demark.com/demark-indicators/

https://forexboat.com/understanding-demark-indicators-technical-analysis/<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Yields...

This is an ode to the few, the proud, the bobo's. You've been given a fair warning mumu. There is no more sympathy coming your way in the future.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjmPJ7uo7Q&feature=share

>>54419156
the source is in the picture
funny how prescient he was about the onset of the bear market

>>54419157
>AI poster is shilling
Sausage guy AI poster.

>>54419169
suck my AI cock foid boi

>>54419153
I believe i saw a bit of the discussion on it before, they're actually writing right? I write options a lot too. But I'm not sure what the advantage of writing 0dte is. I've done weeklies or 5 days out, but Most of the time I like to farm monthlies. Is there a special advantage of writing 0DTE? The theta is usually higher closer to expiration, but weaklies typically have plenty of theta. What's the rationale?

>>54419147
>Is there some part of the market I'm not seeing that is more leveraged?
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shadow-banking-system.asp

Dodd-Frank pushed all the reckless shit over there.

>>54419109
>Subject (Banks) (represented by King of Pentacles)
Four of Pentacles (rev): Suspense, delay opposition

>Context
The Lovers: attraction, trials overcome, or failure or poor design

>Event
Ten of Swords: Pain, affliction, tears, desolation

>Action
Wheel of Fortune (rev): Increase, abundance, superfluity

>Outcome
The Moon: Hidden enemies, danger, darkness, terror, deception

I read this as the "suspense/trials overcome" to refer to the bank insolvency crisis we just had.
I am not sure how to interpret the Ten of Swords, whether it's referring to the crisis itself, and that an abundance (price gains or bailouts) on the bank stocks will reveal hidden dangers (to the economy), or if it indicates an an increase of pain and losses from hidden economic dangers.
Either way, I'd probably be cautious, even as the recovery happens. Make some plays but don't overdo it.

>>54417833
My bank forwards trades to the CRA and auto completes my sales

GameStop

>>54419186
Can't find the source right now, but I recall reading that MMs will buy whatever options people write and then take a neutral position. However, in order to hedge, they have to either buy or sell stocks, calls, or puts, depending on their net position.
The article was something about a gamma squeeze; writing otm puts was the one that put MMs under the most strain for some reason, and in a catastrophic scenario, it would push the price down the most, which would cause the puts to go itm and make the writers lose a ton of money.
Incidentally, writing otm put credit spreads is one of the safest ways to do short-dated options, because you win in 4 out of the 5 cases (small decline, crab, small increase, large increase), only a sharp decline on the exp date really hurts you

>>54419157
>Powered bt GPT-4chan
Wtf

https://twitter.com/WinfieldSmart/status/1638131940954890240

>>54418297
the night time is the right time. fuck the sun

>>54419195
Sure i guess, but shouldn't retail traders be pushing leverage up by a noticeable degree? Brokerages aren't noting any significant leverage. Hedge funds aren't levering, maybe it's all shadow banking but i feel like they would have at least SOME willingness to take debt offered to them through an official channel by now. Shadow banking has no insurance, it's not obvious they'd offer better rates either.

Where are the retards who don't know any better? If they're able to use shadow lenders then they have to have connections. But from the sense i get, it feels like everyone is aware of novice trading morons taking out absurd leverage they don't need, where is it? I assumed people would be margin trading or large amounts of loans, but it doesn't look like it. Hell, i'd even take a large amount of growing options liquidity as some sign that leverage is growing. Have you heard anything with regards to shadow banks growing?

>>54419152
Pretty much. Not necessarily a hedge though. Counterparty could be a put buyer outright, or someone short shares and buying calls to cap their own risk. Some MM in the middle matching the offsetting positions. It's effectively the same.
The point is that flows matter.

>>54419090
there was a guy on wsb a year or 2 ago that used to do tarot readings for a while

>>54419263
Retail leverage is a non-issue outside of meme stocks, and their stimmy checks have all been frittered away on calls and groceries anyway at this point. This isn't 2021.

As for shadow banking, it's literally larger than "legit" banking at this point and consists of shit like 12% gigalevered real estate bonds generated by a bank's BDC, shuffled into a private equity firm, that then hands it off to some bagholder pension fund. But it's, you know, called shadow banking for a reason - the relevant numbers aren't exactly sent to the Fed on a weekly basis.

>>54419292
Definitely not me, I bought it a few months ago because I always wanted them, and appreciated the esoteric nature. Plus it's fun. I'm just embracing my autism

>>54419205
Out of the way, anime girl. I think you're blocking a noticeable downtick.

What's the first rule of system design fight club

>>54419310
opps here you go

>>54419255
>Incidentally, writing otm put credit spreads is one of the safest ways to do short-dated options, because you win in 4 out of the 5 cases (small decline, crab, small increase, large increase), only a sharp decline on the exp date really hurts you
Oooh that sounds like a very good paper. I'd love to read it if you can recall it. writing puts does indeed have a lot of advantages, because implied vol is usually overpriced but i've not read about their comparisons against spreads.
>writing otm puts was the one that put MMs under the most strain for some reason
Out of the money puts means that the total vol is higher because implied vols swing significantly larger the more out of the money you are. If they're averaging the implied volatility of options in order to stay nuetral it would make sense that otm causes the most movement per dollar, because it is the most extreme assumption of volatility that dollar can make.

If you find it i would very much appreciate reading it anon.

>>54419316
Kek. It’s always shade thorough so people can’t read personal info under your Scribbles.

>>54419323
Gracias. I'm not sure how much of that is banks realizing BTFP isn't "free money" and how much is QT continuing from a higher level, but I suspect if bank runs don't keep happening there'll be a noticeable drop.

>>54419298
>it's literally larger than "legit" banking at this point and consists of shit like 12% gigalevered real estate bonds generated by a bank's BDC, shuffled into a private equity firm, that then hands it off to some bagholder pension fund
if you know it's larger than legit banking where did you see that? Is there a chart i can find? I understand that it's not well regulated but if you know it's that big where are you finding information on its size?

>>54419298
>bank's BDC,
hold on, if they are bdc's how dark can they be? Shouldn't business development companies have to send tax information?

>>54419305
i have 2 decks one weird/cool looking one and one silly halloween one

>>54419305
>>54419368

>>54419156
Surprised no one has done the needful at this point desu

>>54419345
Just Bing "how large is the shadow banking sector" and read to your heart's content.

>>54419363
Not their loan any more, not their problem. They collected their commission and sold all the servicing to some other guy. That's the class of fuckery dynamics we're talking about.

>>54419368
>>54419379

>>54419048
damn where can I find a cute busty asian gf like that?

Yeah I'm thinking we are back
My 3x bull and Cathie Wood ETFs did a lil sumthin today
>Clown investing for a clown world
This is financial advice.

Will number go up next week as well?

these full retards pumps are incredibly sus. Petrodollar is dying out and BRICS is ready to pull out. Markets gonna crash soon aren't they?

>>54419462
>anon 2025 at spx 6500

>>54419160
Looking good, and well so do the yields of course. What would we do without you maid-sama?

I JUST WANTED TO FUCKING SHORT FUCKING COINBASE AND THE FUCKING CRYPTO BANKS FUCKING FUCK

>>54419048
I never bought back my Nintendies or BILI.
why so much gaymin?

Is LINK legit?
What about platinum miners and SRUUF?

>>54419205
Motherfucker, did they just reverse 6 months of rates just like that? I should really start reading the news<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

I’ve got a job offer as an actuary. Is this a /smg/ approved profession?

>>54419462
All the BRICS doomer posting is literal fifty cent army/пидop trying to avoid getting deployed to the special military war operation seethecope. However, there is very much a looming gigabear market as a result of can-kicking a 90 year debt supercycle another 15 years so it's half true.

>>54419379
>>54419368
Hey, that's fun. But like I said, I got the original for the esoteric nature of it. See picrel

>>54419414
It is, but keep in mind that Islam and Christianity forbide usury or taking profit from a loan. There is one religion that permits it to non-followers. Can you guess which one?
Besides that, any kind of investing is going to be inherently against traditional morals. Actually, not only does Islam forbid interest on loans, they actually become partial stakeholders for a mutual benefit on the business activity.
Anyways, my point is, given the nature of things, reading about esoteric images and symbols isn't going to hurt you, and doing this is just as reliable as flipping a coin

Carl Ichan says that billionaires aren't doing to for the money, they do it because they are good at it and they compete against each other to be the Tom Brady of their craft, everyone impacted is just a pawn of their rival chess game.

>>54419205
i wish that was me

>>54419135
>I don't do spreads. Feels like a jewish scam to get more commissions.
No, it's just a defined risk strategy that helps if you're too broke to mess with anything significant. Or if you're like me, it allows you to game index options affordably with consistent results like SPX or RUT.
Also key thing here, spreads don't have this risk IF they're European cash settled. So no early exercise risk and as the name implies it's cash settled so no exchange of stock.

Really the only real way spreads fuck you, and this only applies to American settled options, is when the strike is in between the legs and one gets exorcised but the other doesn't for some odd reason where you're on the hook for a bunch of capital.

>If you're too bullish on the short term upside potential though, its better to just hold stock directly.
Honestly, I'd just do a debit spread at that point or using options math against itself attempting to do a short put condor so where ever it moves I'd make some credit.

>>54419532
Lol retard they bet money to see who can have the most money, the underlaying motivation is to use money to make more money. They don't give a shit about the luxuries that money affords, they just want the high score.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>54419564
Warren Buffet basically telegraphs his moves and tells everyone how to make money, and he just keeps stacking.

the ai posts are unironically indistinguishable from regular posts
dead internet theory IS real

>>54419090
You should try out spirit invocation/evocation.

>>54419584
You are my favorite bot in this dystopian hell.

>>54419562
I remember hearing stories about how Christmas and April Fools would sometimes have traders exercise their otm options as a prank or gift

>>54419576
Buffet bros we're gonna make it.
>Warren has fallen off
>makes half a billion in one day on oil

>>54419186
>But I'm not sure what the advantage of writing 0dte is
There's a method to the madness here. SPX being cash-settled and more or less reliable to work with on a price action and news standpoint you could in theory spam a bunch of credit spreads with a delta of 0.2 and collect a SAFE and reliable credit.
Used to do this myself until being directional wasn't working. However I do this again now but just selling short butterflies or put condors so I can be directionless and still collect a credit.

>Is there a special advantage of writing 0DTE? The theta is usually higher closer to expiration
Yes, in short you spam a spread at a delta of 0.2 or 0.3 and you get cash when it expires. Depending on the width of the spread it could be a simple 100 bucks for risking 400, or 1000 for 4000.
The safer you get obviously the less the credit is, but the fact you can more or less spam this with a higher-than-normal success rate is why some traders go this route. To add here as well, if it goes south you can easily kick out the spread by rolling it since it's SPX and has liquidity.

>>54419605
This is why I shill Euro-style options to most Americans.
You get the following
>Tax benefits (lower rates by a significant margin)
>No early exercise risk
>Cash settled (so no autistic bull shit about having to convert an options position into shares to deal with a short, etc...)
>https://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/08/american-european-options.asp

but the thing is
furniture is still the future of finance

Are we alive

>>54419762
No.

>>54419764
But April fools starts in 30 minutes

>>54419564
You call someone retard and then pataphrase the same thing they said. You must hate yourself looking in the mirror.

>>54419622
Sorry remind me again, the net spread is 0.20 delta, but still directional, and is a credit?
Do you avoid trading specific days (eg NFPs, FOMC, CPI)?
Why do you look at net delta rather than stdev/area under the curve? I feel like I had some success doing 1 strike past the breakevens of an atm straddle, since youre a step away from where the smart money is making walls

>>54419840
>Sorry remind me again, the net spread is 0.20 delta, but still directional, and is a credit?
No the overall spread, be it debit or credit is has separate functions. If you're net short on a given options position the lower the delta the better. So if a credit spread has a net delta of 0.2 then it's a OTM trade with a higher probability of success. Remember when selling options you want them to go worthless hence why that's a thing.

That said credit spreads are inherently directional, either working when things go sideways or going hard in one direction.
So a Put Credit Spread is bullish but can work if the stock/index goes sideways for a time. That said there are other kinds of spreads one can do which give more interesting P/L charts. For example I implore you to look up a short put condor since it's profitable wherever the stock is price wise, only downside is when it moves sideways.

>Do you avoid trading specific days (eg NFPs, FOMC, CPI)?
With what I do I just need movement so it doesn't matter all that much as long as it's not crabbing in my valley of death.
>Why do you look at net delta rather than stdev/area under the curve?
Deltas when selling options are a simple way to gauge the likelihood of profit. So lower deltas are safer positions and more likely to go the way you want.
As for stdev and areas, to be honest I've seen disconnect here with how useful that actually is in practice. Prime example has been this year to be honest or high volatility environments on the indexes. Things bounce around so much where it's just noise data wise.

>>54419641
Damn I really needed to reread that article. I thought with Euro options you HAD to hold till expiry (no sale), but the only limitation is on exercise. Seems pretty great for the seller.

>>54419562
It does double the commission. It also means you're eating the bid/ask spread multiple times.
I'm talking about single-stock options, so American style is the only choice. Bid/ask spread often 5 cents increments, and then getting a fill can be even wider.
If you want to speculate on macro using the major indexes, then that's another story. Those options are much more liquid and spreads may be the only way to produce a good risk/reward profile that offers enough premium to make the plays worth your time. IV is much lower on the indexes.

>Honestly, I'd just do a debit spread at that point
Using options would make sense if the IV seems deeply mispriced, but again dealing with options means dealing with those spreads and commissions. If you're going long then its because you have intent to close them at a profit before expiration - so those associated costs are once again doubled vs option selling where you can often ride the position out to expiration.

>>54419944
hence why I shill index options and future options. The benefits here are absolutely broken and you become more immune to random events like meme stocks, shills, etc since it's harder for an index to suddenly implode under normal circumstances.

>>54419960
>It does double the commission. It also means you're eating the bid/ask spread multiple times.
Largely depends on the broker, the worst commissions here would be future-options. So doing a credit spread on /ES would be murder on small accounts but the SPAN margin and overall credit more or less pay for that.
To be honest here too with the added benefits to the sellers side options wise it's best to NOT trade that much when possible or when you do trade a lot go ham on 0DTE SPX trades like Tom Sosnoff.
>If you want to speculate on macro using the major indexes, then that's another story
Somewhat the point, personally besides a very select group of ticker I don't want to own any actual stocks. Plus the tax benefits from index options are way too busted to switch full time on normal options.
>IV is much lower on the indexes.
DEPENDS, lower on SPX yes. On RUT or NDX god no it's much higher. NDX in particular is more capital-intensive but offers the highest credits because of the IV bit.
>spreads and commissions
More of a broker issue to be honest. I use IBKR and for the most part that's never been a problem. Tastyworks is somewhat meh on this but it's ignorable in practice with them.
>If you're going long then its because you have intent to close them at a profit before expiration
You can do the same with options selling. Personally I close everything out once it hits 50% of profit. Then again I do time when I sell taking advantage of RUT's channel-bound nature or stuff happening to SPX.

What happens if the deepstate goes retarded and starts dragging Trump into different courtrooms?

>>54420038
By the way, how much APR% do you get from your option writing? Surely you beat the passive index. Whats your win%, also?

>>54420061
Nothing.

April Fool's Day is just like the stock market. It's understandable that not everyone may be particularly invested in it. Some people may not enjoy the pranks or jokes that are typically associated with it, while others may simply not be aware of it or may not see it as particularly significant. Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide how they want to participate in or acknowledge it, if at all.

>>54420061
>>54420094
I'd say we already look like a South American shithole dragging a previous president into court. Makes us look like we're moving in a very bad direction and probably weakens the rest of the worlds outlook on us, which can affect the value of the dollar.

>>54420070
>By the way, how much APR% do you get from your option writing?
Depends of the mode here, with a plan credit spread I aim to get a minimum of an 80-100 credit when possible but I close out at a profit of 50. Maximum risk is around 400-420ish.
This is primarily on SPX/RUT credit spreads.
On the Put Condors when I sell those I normally let them expire worthless and aim to get similar ratios. However Put Condors are tricky given the valley of death and with indexes you do need to make them somewhat wide to get a good credit. However with indexes since they do move if you give it time it's more or less fine.

>Whats your win%, also?
A solid 80% but the remaining 20% can be outright devastating. In particular, I had to lick some wounds when the market imploded when the war broke out last year.
Issue I had, I got way too comfortable with just SPX credit spreads and didn't bother to manage it when shit hit the fan besides just rolling. Sure I preserved some capital but my ability to actively pick a direction when the market is choppy was bad.
That said that's been solved via selling Put Condors and selling Put butterflies since it's directionless for the credit.

>>54420120
>tfw I can't spell correctly
Il dolore e la sofferenza mi aspettano

Working out a few kinks in my bot. I'll get back to you guys once it's working.

>>54420038
>Somewhat the point, personally besides a very select group of ticker I don't want to own any actual stocks.
Well I guess that's where we differ then. I prefer to find individual stocks and sell monthlies. My largest options profits came from selling BTU CCs/puts last year.
>Plus the tax benefits from index options are way too busted to switch full time on normal options.
This is definitely a nice boost but I don't think it's gamechanging. Depends a bit on your tax brackets though. At 200k+ it becomes much more meaningful, but that means having 200k of shortterm gains + wage income before accounting for any other sources that qualify at the lower cap gains brackets. Cap gains calculations always replace your top marginal bracket I believe.
60% longterm, 40% short term means the overall benefit is 60% of whatever tax bracket differential you benefit from. For anyone below 170k income, the differential is <10% (15% vs 24% or less) meaning total tax saving is <6%. Although to really be accurate you'd have to look at it in terms of total tax burden, and compare remaining profits after deducting taxes..
18% + 6% state tax vs 24% + 6% state tax = 76/70 or close to 10% more retained profits, as a rough example.

I find dividends more convenient. 61 day hold on a dividend play gets qualified status, which is longterm cap equivalent. Although my income's not high enough to matter anyway
Not that dividends are worth seeking out, but if you're selling covered calls against a dividend payer it's a nice bonus too.

You know we can't be defeated right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8j4mn4eF-c

>>54416197
how are you coping with the fact that the USD is dying and as such you will be destitute once this place cracks and breaks completely

Test.

>>54416443
>>54416465
Buy a mini PC like Intel NUC from 2015, more than enough computing power and only 6 watt tdp. Get them used for $100 or so.

>>54420402
i cope by realizing that all of your retarded doomer predictions have never materialized

gonna invest in DRV on monday because I think so

gm sirs

>>54420295
says the increasingly nervous moo moo balancing on the top of a very flimsy flagpole

Someone said yesterday was window dressing, but why would that make stocks pump? I thought window dressing meant funds dump their losing positions.

>>54420905
Idk, probably to do with how it was relatively low vol

This is the worst 4chin April Fools ever. Absolutely bearish.

ive decided upon stage analysis as my trading method.

rate

>>54420968
Sign of the times.

if there was any recession they'd just lower rates again and the market will skyrocket
only time to worry is if recession looms and rates are already low, which is not the case

Is anyone here familiar with Trade Republic?
It gives you 2% interest per year on the balance you haven't invested.
It pays you monthly though.
So theoretically, 600€ of not invested balance should be 1€ of interest per month.

But I didn't get as much as interest I should and I don't understand why.
It said my "average" balance for the month was a little over 300€, so I expect 0.50€ of interest, but it gave me 0.44€ only.
It didn't subtract any taxes so that can't be it.

>>54421042
Were the full 600 Euros everyday not invested? I got 4,96 on 15k+ that I pulled out midmarch. So it gives you interest every night on the uninvested balance and at the end of the month you get the whole sum.

>>54421061
Oh I see. Unfortunately it doesn't break it down like that so I have to do the calculations myself then.
I'll have to check

>>54421061
>>54421078
I opened a spreadsheet and entered the balances that I had on each individual day, and applied the interest rate per day (2% divided by 365) then added it all together, and the result 0.44€ seems to be correct.
Thank you for your help

Im new to investing and I just read that there's something called a "dividend" where I get paid to hold shares of a company?! How did they not make this illegal yet lmao
this sounds too good to be true

>>54421042
>I expect 0.50€ of interest, but it gave me 0.44€ only.
/biz/

>>54421142
when you buy a stock, you are an owner of that company. what that really means is you are a part owner of that companies profits. dividends are one way the company returns capital to shareholders.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>54421166
bot post

>>54421107
You're welcome

>>54421166
>powered by GPT-4Chan
WTF is this?

>>54417174
>Let the Internets store everything else.
you need to be 25+ to post here
by which age you'd realise, pinning your photos to a tree be more long-term reliable

>>54421142
>How did they not make this illegal yet
Fuck off commie. Go back to you gender studies class.

Shid. I forgot what day it was.

>>54421232
It's APRIL FOOLS so the MODS are playing a little JOKE on us! HEHEHEHE

>>54421250
Im not a commie but dividends for the average joe are completely against their "you will own nothing" agenda, thats why I've wondered why its still legal.

>>54421287
are you retarded?

Anons halp pls
Got any residential REITS in sun belt area?

Ohnonono

redpill me on BOTZ do you think it's a good buy and hold situation

>>54421287
The average Joe wagie is too stupid/ignorant to take advantage of investing and dividends. This is by design. They don’t teach this stuff in schools for a reason. Think about it, you say you just learned about this. They have just lost a little bit more control over your future.

>>54421287
It's because paying dividends restricts company growth and gets the population used to living on handouts.
Imagine if you could buy stock in the US govt and they paid you a dividend. Now imagine you instead "buy that stock" by working and the govt just pays you a dividend of food and shelter.

Should I sell my intel & nasdaq calls on Monday?

I think Monday will open red and go down a bit, as people sell off and take profit. But then later in the day it will start pumping again as people FOMO back in. That's what I plan to do. And then it will pump the rest of the month

lmfao how did bbby get to below 50 cents who is still holding this shit its literally going to 0 kek

>>54416245
Pelosi saying one has to "prove their innocence in court" had me convinced it was satire

>>54417035
I remember doomers saying we'd reach the technology singularity with transistors years ago. We're getting close to the size of atoms but knowing humanity we'll just finally get quantum computing to work

>>54421296
1 post by this ID

>>54421979
In the thread some dude asked if the company selling stock was a good thing because it meant people were willing to be. He had to be told what dilution meant.

These are the retards that got sucked into the bbby cult

>>54421856
But it’s not a handout. By investing a company you are incurring a risk that wagies don’t have to deal with. Now if you are young investing in dividends is not a really good idea because you miss out on growth opportunities. You also have more time to recover if you make a dumb investment decision. The best time to start investing in dividends is when you have past your prime earning years and want to supplement your income when some younger and smarter folks start competing for your job.

>>54421856
>Imagine if you could buy stock in the US govt
It’s called a bond

>>54419405
>Bing
BASED BINGER

>>54421856
Who wants to tell this dumb moron bonds exist?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>54422031
not really the same

>>54421985
>>54421995
>>54422007
>>54422045
So you're a bot...?

>>54422036
GOOG has spent too much time questioning themselves, too much time moving backward. Their gains have been sacrificed at the altar of ESG. MSFT has no such qualms. They may have started behind, but they look ever forward, advancing one step at a time.

>>54422073
We're all bots

>>54421949
Depends if you're bullish or not. If you think that the market could blow up any time don't get attached to them, and if you think that it's QE time you should hold

>>54422082
Being a boglehead and not having to worry about that shit is so refreshing

When I woke up this morning the first thing I thought about was how Natwest was doing. I haven't thought about NWG in about a year. What the fuck? It is down less than JPM on the month. Did our banking contagion not significantly affect foreign banks even though Credit Suisse pooped de ooped?

Oh fuck I forgot it was Saturday

>>54422074
MSFT *started* waaay ahead, but then thought they could coast on it and got mogged, and are only beginning to show themselves to be back in the game somewhat. Either way, I use any MSFT product in place of GOOG that I can because, among countless other reasons, GOOG ruled that it is totally fine to have fags shoving things up each other's asses on YT.

>>54419209
based

>>54422090
To be honest the least stress inducing ways to trade are being an index fund Boglehead/tech bull and convincing yourself about the line going up forever or short term bets with defined exits and tight losses so you don't get left holding the bag. Any trade with a time horizon longer than a week in this environment is too scary for me

>>54419048
why do Asians and tits go so well together? Is it the porcelain skin and black hair contrast?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>54422189
Based bot.

>>54422179
Also you can still tilt. My roth ira being VNQ means tax free rental payments and its comfy as fuck

>>54422049
Because bonds pay interest not dividends. And what idiot would “invest” in any current government right now?

Any Balkan fags still awake? What online brokerages do you use?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Baking

>>54422189
Are we talking male or female Asians?

>>54422232
>And what idiot would “invest” in any current government right now?
>miss on earnings ever single time
hmmm

so the santa rally was really a shamrock rally
tell me the irish dont run the world

>>54422266
Fuck you! I’m not a bot.

>>54422292
Is there a difference? They all look the same.

>>54421856
>imagine if you could buy stocks in the US govt and they paid you a dividend.
They have done that for centuries it's called a Govt Bond, Social Security and Unemployment.

>>54422266
>Implying Hungary is not Balkan
Guess it's time to short C3ai

>>54422307
Exactly what a bot would say

>>54422369
>>54422369

>>54418250
No interest

>>54416254
Can you explain this to me like I'm a child?

I understand about the reparations but why would it make the stock soar?