/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54330558
>Bong anons, it's fucking over

>As part of his drastic plans last November to put the country's public finances back on track, Jeremy Hunt announced cuts to the amount of capital gains that people can crystallise every year – for example on the sale of shares or assets – without incurring a tax charge.
>So, from the start of the new tax year in 11 days' time, the annual tax-free allowance will be cut from £12,300 to £6,000. Then, from April 6 2024, it will suffer another fierce shave, down to £3,000

>Hunt has applied a similar cut to the amount of annual business dividend income investors and shareholders can receive tax-free. This will halve next month from the current £2,000 to £1,000, and halve again in April 2024 to £500.

We've already been through this thousands of times, it does not apply to coins of the realm.

>>54330637
Of course, sovereigns and Britannias were already the best but now there is NO reason to get anything else, not even a few cheeky 10oz silver bars to pump up those numbers

>>54330650
are RM bars exempt as well? I've never actually seen one posted here. probably due to the premiums

STEP ASIDE BASED DIAMOND KIKE COMIN THRUUUUU

>>54330694
I don't think so unfortunately

>$0.14 left on my bank accounts
>still need to grow my stack
Don't wait for me bros, i don't think i'm GMI to the other side

god i hate dealing with the perth mint

Any gold & silver dealers in Aus that don't report you to ATO and AUSTRAC? Don't want to be be a bigsitting duck for the great confiscation. Cash only deals.
>>54330766
Perth mint are shit, now they're doing the dirty with their gold

>>54330817
Just buy under 4,999 AUD per transaction per day and there are no austrac requirements

>>54330766
>>54330817
>is that .00005 silver in my gold AHHHH IM GOING INSANE HELP ME NIGGERMAN

>>54330637
Unfortunately mr hunt I lost all my gold in a tragic boating accident

>>54330766
my only issue is that they're really slow to deliver.
I was using their app for kilos, and despite being fully KYC'd you have to fill in forms, exchange emails and 3 weeks later from initial contact you'd have your metals.
>>54330817
the gold is fine, don't start this autism again

>>54330869
i thought it was 2 grand, i had to order 1999.69 or it wanted ID

Thoughts on these from people more experience than me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mFlWqpFsF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2EsW9W2I4
Found them randomly while looking for candid coin footage.

Where can we buy the new silver shield micromintage rounds these days?

>>54330935
it is 2k

>>54330637
Just concert to Islam, change your legal name to Muhammed or some Arab shit, and spend some time at the beach this summer. They wouldn't dare do a racism to their beloved dune coons.

>>54330935
oops, for perth mint online sales at least
https://www.austrac.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-09/AUSTRAC_RA_BullionDealersInAustralia_web.pdf

>>54330766
>they kill people
>they dilute their gold
>they lie
Stop complaiking about this cornerstone establishment of white identity you Jewish-Chinese agitator.

>>54330924
How many proofs of COVID-19 boosters do they require you upload before shipping?

>>54330766
>perth mint

>>54330981
When did Perth mint kill people? Are we counting abos as people?

>>54331024
https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/revealed-perth-mint-and-the-convicted-killer-20200609-p550ta

>>54330944
Direct from GSM?

>>54331039
That's mini mintage. I want micro mintage.

>>54331037
Sounds pretty based to me. Isn't most gold older than like 1950 "blood gold"

>>54330699
A commodity so common they crush them up and put them on saw blades.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-diamonds-are-a-sham-2013-3

>>54331037
Uhh based department? Same with Afghan emeralds, Congolese cobalt and blood diamonds

>>54331053
>>54331080
Cobalt is racist and gold coins kill people and Perth Mint kills people.

>>54330637
I'm sorry I'm just not going to tell them hahahaha how will they ever know hahahaha.

You can only get done for tax evasion if you're a complete retard or moving some SERIOUS cash like in the millions. HMRC has no capacity to go after every Joe Bloggs selling a few grand of metal

>>54331098

>>54331051
I looked into this before and checking again, it seems you have to join their subscription group 30 USD per year, otherwise micromintagesilver.com resells

>>54331101
They will when you sell a gold bar for Britcoin to buy bread and the CBDC AI central database flags the transaction before sending globohmo agents

>>54331132
I haven't been able to actually find the group. Also, micromintage website is selling off inventory and closing shop. They don't carry anything new as far as I know.

>>54331150
https://silvershieldguide.com/Subscribe

What are your thoughts on the PMGT Perth Mint Gold Token? Apparently owners will be able to trade them in, and have gold delivered to anywhere in the world.

>>54331149
Then I’ll eat meat again

>>54331162
Thanks man.

>>54330699
Nice purified peanut butter you have there.

>>54331149
People don't realize how insanely efficient AI is. Pretty much every job a person has today that involves interfacing with a computer will be automated by AI. I used to believe this would happen within a few decades, but it's now become apparent that it will happen with this decade. The exponential speed at which AI is improving will radically change the world. Anons, if you have a job that involves using a computer, you best start learning how to leverage GPT now to become more efficient at your work, or else you'll one day (soon) find yourself out of a career.

>>54331172
I might be wrong, but I believe you still need the perth mint app.
You swap your PMGT tokens into au/ag on the app, then you request delivery.
Its an ETH coin so maybe there are gas fees when you transfer?
You'll pay for overseas insured shipping which will be painful.
It costs about 36 USD to courier a couple of kilos across the country.
I doubt it's worth it 2bh.

attached are standard shipping rates from our national post for a guide (insured up to $2k, signature on delivery)

Simple as.

>>54331374
We need to protect the hegemony of US dollar at all costs, even if it costs a nuclear war with those pesky Chicoms and Vatniks. We need to protect the status of USD as defacto world reserve currency and shutdown any attempts on trying to challenge its status. Gold and silver are the tools of sound money and should its ownership should be banned.

Do I have this right? The point of gold is:
a) it will lead the way and you might encounter markets who want it over any amount of silver
b) silver will take time to catch up and the suppression won't necessarily stop in one's lifetime

>>54331374
>born way too late to cheaply stack gold like this
i guess i can take comfort in not having to wait 20 years for the banks to collapse...i hope.

makes me wonder how much of a let down the 2008 stackers felt.

>>54330924
>the gold is fine
Just not 999 fine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZU2Bt41oo

>>54331428
The point of gold and silver is that they are money

>>54330755
checked and tempting
or was it a gold version I was eyeing
time to double check what's available I guess

>>54330765
it's going to get worse but then earth will become better than even precious metals can buy
look forward to it

>>54331488
nice digits

>>54330620
buen día los hombres

Any swiss dealer with decent premiums?
gold avenue is the one showing up on google but fuck those premiums

>>54331474
That is one way to get money out of a country. If you have a wife and kids each one can walk away with half a million dollars.
Maybe get something a bit less gaudy

>>54330943
these losers have been making the same videos for 10 years straight. It's sad really

>>54331381
shabbat shalom
you have some human blood on your lips

>>54331098
>gold coins kill people and Perth Mint kills people
Yes

>>54331004
the king of coins

>>54331610
buenos dias caballero

>>54330699
I think with our tech we can literally make these on demand because they're not rare. I could understand if we developed tech that uses frequency and vibrations to use diamonds as a medium but what it's used for is making tough tools.

>>54330765
>Don't wait for me bros
No man left behind.
I'll throw a few mercs your way.

>>54331488

Hmmmmmmmm

>>54331818
Very nice

>>54332149
we wuz libuhtay n sheeit

>>54332149
>2017

>>54332149
c.. coin of the year. Please buy it.we have loads kicking about and they are not selling,

>>54332222
repeating digits observed

>>54332243
I was going to list one of the beautiful lady liberty alternative designs that also ran but never made it to production. The one with sweet milkers. Stunning coin, even ignoring the tits. Can’t understand why they’d make the one they did over that. Massive self own. Someone said they have to give away smaller coins for free with the large one to encourage sales otherwise a no one buys them.

>>54332149
>45% premium

>>54332275
>Can’t understand why they’d make the one they did
Because there is absolutely an agenda to replace whites, and the head bitch at the US mint is a diversity hire.

>>54332300
Well I knew that anyway. We have our own coin celebrating our demise too

>>54332149
>breathtaking
niggas be stealing air now

>>54332149
>2017
Wonder why they still have stock after five years.

>>54331980
>>54330765
>No man left behind.
over here anon, take my hand,
Come with us if you want to make it

>>54332381
>Diversity is our strength.

>>54332405
kek

>>54332405

>>54331076
>>54331234
>>54331868
lmao stay poor no-gems

>>54332522
Oh wow, what an excellent point.

>>54332436

>>54330924
What’s kyc mean

>>54332604
it means they report your transactions to the irs so they know how much you have for when its time to come collect
should stand for kill yourself cuck lmao

>>54332604
Know Your Customer/Client

>>54332604
Kill your cat

Are high premiums the main drawback of fractional gold?

>>54332604
kiss your chin

>>54332729
mostly the high premiums yes.
also easy to physically lose or misplace. 1/10th oz. rounds for example, are slightly smaller than a US dime. that's getting pretty tiny.
i don't have much gold, but what i have had so far makes me think anything smaller than a 1/4oz is too small.

>>54330699
Can be re-created in a lab easily.
Gold cannot. It would cost trillions and involve nuclear fusion to produce just one gram of artificial Gold.
Diamonds aren't forever, they for morons.
Be gone kike

>>54332797
lmao seethe coinjeet, gem masterrace

>>54332729
You can usually find relatively low premiums with sovereigns and 2rand coins. Both are also made with a bit of copper which makes them hard and perfect for fondling.

>>54332791
Are those all the drawbacks? I suppose I can live with that if the benefit is having a shinier coin, not like silver doesn't have a similarly high premium + VAT in the UK.

>>54331374
Top kek

>>54332862
Silver is ridiculous in the UK, I've just bought a tube of 25 Charlies but I think I'm switching to sovereigns from now on.

Anyone read any good books on farming (particularly if you live in an urban area) and homesteading?

>>54332729
That's a big reason. Others are their small size makes it hard to see the design and any scratches or dust take up a relatively huge amount of area, and their small mass makes it wholly unsatisfactory to hold.
Assayed bars are different though. I've stopped buying them (have enough now), but they are easy to unload because so many people can afford them.

>>54332930
There’s no one good book to truly understanding farming. Yeah, you could read a few housewife books about some gay assed raised beds or containers on your deck and become a cultivating consoomer with fertilizer, grow lights, seed starting mix, and the other bagged and price tagged bullshit BUT farming is a science when you really get into it. I would recommend you just use the internet to start your garden but make a serious hobby, if you’re truly interested, in understanding the art of agriculture.

I’m building an online and local nursery along with a seasonal farmer’s market off of .85 acres and it has taken about 6 years of constantly experimenting and learning to develop a system of cultivation that is in line with my principles. Permaculture and natural gardening have a very high learning curve when you first get into it as they are definitely more profound than some YouTube MILF showing how to build a cattle panel trellis, but you are rewarded with a system of production that builds the soil, requires little to no watering, and diversifies your production so that a yield is always guaranteed.

Read everything you can, fren!

>>54333085
>reading is consoomerism
>farming is a science
>science doesn't have books
>Read everything you can, fren!

What did he mean by this, bros???

>>54333066
>Coinnoisseur
I'm jello of you, but that's because I'm impressed by your fine collection of numismatics.

Has there ever been any green gold coins minted?

>>54332862
>>54332791

on the contrarywise side, if i could pay the doubles advocate for a moment,

small fractional gold (or silver for that matter) is easier to hide. cant deny that. this may be an advantage under certain situations. depending on your intensive purposes.

Worth it or nah? It's my first time buying gold.

Listen to this from 7:43 onward, Backyardbullion found out how much reserves a major branch has at a single bank. It's shocking, but not shocking at all to us here.

https://youtu.be/hwWCxbYBAMo

>>54333300
No it's a ripoff. Don't pay more than 5% premium for anything.

>>54333128
it means he figured it out for himself snd didn't have a specific book or books to recommend, which probably exist

>>54333325
Where can I buy legit gold bars from Spain?

>>54332791
Nothing wrong with smol gold.

>>54333300
>gold sealed forever in plastic
don't do it anon. you will want to hold the gold

GOOOOOD MORNING MERC NATION SERS!
>>54332222
Why don't they just melt them? They melted unsold commemorative coins in the past, and those looked way better than this.
Who am I kidding it's obvious (and sad) why they won't melt them.
Nice quads btw. You could have named that anon's son in yesterday's thread.

>>54333311
>CBDCs will allow you to spend your money freely, without llimit
he's too bluepilled

>>54332149
>Using niggers as a currency
Based

>>54333363
I wouldn't buy gold bars if you are new to it. Buy coins. Especially within the EU that can make a tax difference, and with circulated coins that were/are produced in high volumes, you pay less premium than on fractional gold bars.
Sovereigns, vrenelli Francs etc can easily find with less than 5% premium.

>>54333428
He's the most insufferable Britcuck. Every video he posts, he slips in some utterly naïve and bluepilled take. His videos are only good for viewing coins you might be interested in.

>>54333311
Why do you feel the need to post liks to his YT videos?
1. BYB is a fat cuck who sucks gov dick 24/7
2. He calls CBDCs a (((conspiracy theory)))
3. He said in one of his videos that he would gladly give his PMs away if the government started confiscating gold/silver

>>54333398
cringe

>>54333428
>he's too bluepilled
He is unfortunately. A while back he said in his comments that the idea that governments will control what people spend with their CBDC is ridiculous. I told him to listen to Augustin Carstens, head of the Bank for International Settlements, who is pretty much the arch banker of all western banks saying that "CBDC will allow the central bank to have absolute control over the expression" of the spending. He replied to me with "What utter tosh", only to then delete the conversation shortly after.

>>54333350
Said it in my shitpost. Anything permaculture and natural farming is a good read. YouTube will give you everything most normie gardening books will give you.

Why I emphasize doing it yourself is every region has its own unique variables that don’t always match to whatever hard laws gardening books will try to cement. Sunshine, rain, soil health, all of that shit varies and is up to you to perfect in your unique condition.

>>54333576
paid shill =/= bluepilled

>>54333576
He's the perfect 21st century slave-citizen. He'll do as he's told, follow all the rules because they're the rules, and he'll even defend his overlords from criticism (aka critical thinking).

>>54333634
I agree with you, CBDCs shouldn't be backed by any commodities like gold and silver. We should just transition to a cashless society but with the same inner-workings of the current MMT system, where the Government can control the money supply at will.

>>54333560
I will kill you and rape you with my giant silver cock. Mongoloid.

>>54333085
> some YouTube MILF showing how to build a cattle panel trellis
What is said MILF wearing? How’s her cleavage?
>Permaculture
That is a very interesting concept! Should I ever manage to get a house with a garden, that’s on my list of things to try.
Any moment soon my Oz of gold will buy me a nice property, like in Weimar, right, frens…?

I bought 400 brittanias and 2 gold buffalos. What tier will I be when it shows up? Sorry for being a new fag.

>>54333856
don't forget to apologize to chugs and to tip your blackjack dealer extra

>>54333824
Look up naked gardener on YouTube.

Anybody want to chat?

if nuclear armegeddon happens, what happens to the price of physical gold?

>>54333824
When you go heavy into gardening and farming a lot of videos are effectively click bait with some mid 40s California bitch in a tank top spending 14 goddamn minutes explaining that cattle panels can be used as a trellis. My personal favorite class is tattooed dumb bitch passively trying to explain how sustainable and organic her garden is while ignoring the trucks delivering her compost, fertilizer, and plastic trays to fill her artificially heated greenhouse made from 5 year max plastic. The male equivalent are megafaggot soimasters like Curtis Stone who will jerk their cocks about local and sustainable farming while making their money off selling lettuce and micro greens to yuppie urbanites for 7$ a bag.

Garden like your ancestors, frens. Cover crops, milpa seed mixes, regional crop selections, and the teachings of Masanobu Fukuoka are all you need bby grlz.

>>54333856
You’re a mid Roman at 600 oz using the 1:100 ratio. Now you get to work towards the boomer sips Coinvivor at 1000!

>>54334021
lol this summarizes most jewtube videos pretty accurately. California after the 90s was a mistake.
>t. Califag

>>54334029
Ok I was confused I thought I had to have 2.5 gold and 250 silver to be Roman. Ratio makes sense. I think I can get to the next tier by end of May or June. Unless prices get too crazy

>>54334007
Price?
An ounce will buy you 10m2 of land* instead of only 1, a well equipped mercenary for a month instead of a few days, etc.
*North America, Europe and eastern Russia excluded

>>54334071
The tiers basically allow for silver or gold maximalists to be included but you definitely want to keep a nice and even ratio between the two. I say this as someone who had to focus exclusively on gold the last year to get to 5:560. Keeping an even balance diversifies your stack and ensures any gains from either metal come your way. A bonus with gold is how a laughably small amount equals your many tubes of silver so much so that I understand the gold maxies that just stack Au.

How many silvers for this pajeeta.

I have some 1 ounce assay bars that I want to exchange for gov mint coins like eagles or britanians .. What do you guys recommend ? Sell back to apmex or jmbullion ?

So lonely...

>>54334136
Imagine the smell etc. she’s pretty desu probs a XF barber rather than a merc.

>>54334021
> When you go to YouTube a lot of videos are effectively click bait
Fixed that for you.
Yeah, I know. I’m mostly watching gold panning vids, and that’s mostly
>bearded dude doing the onions face + clickbait title
It’s all so tiresome.
> Garden like your ancestors, frens. Cover crops, milpa seed mixes, regional crop selections,
Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s a lot of “exotic” things that can really work. And there’s a difference between gardening and farming. Most of my ancestors never did cover crops in gardening. Just break up the earth in autumn, let it freeze in winter and add compost in spring.
>and the teachings of Masanobu Fukuoka are all you need
Is that some plant Manga?

>>54334116
Next purchase will probably be another 100 ounces of brittanias to finish up the monster box. After that 3 more gold buffalos to even it out. Then I’ll start a new monster box of silver. Haven’t decided between kangaroos or maples. Definitely not philharmonic. Violins are gay as hell.

the squeeze is squozing

>>54334136
>will balloon like a whale in 16-24 months
>entire family lineage bathed in feces
>entire family lineage drank feces from their glorified shit river
>shitty annoying friends
>smells like shit
>food is aight but smells up the entire neighborhood and makes you gain weight even if you're running marathons
>music gets old after 3 songs

pretty sure you're gonna have to be the one doing the paying to take on that one

Thoughts on the kruger rand?

>>54334278
>shitting on the based milky weiners
>buying gold buffalos
Nigger the buffalos are so goddamn ugly but you get what you want. The anons who are certified members of the gold krug master race will keep to themselves when you post your stack of shiny red men.

>>54334295
they're grrrrrrreat

>>54332381
This stuff is tiresome to see even as a darkie myself

>>54334295
They're racist !

>>54333979
everything okay anon?

>>54334308
It’s not even a very good looking coin. Ignoring that aspect. Some of the other liberty designs with African American ladies are ok. One that looks more like a peace dollar was pretty good. This looks like high school art project level.

>>54334251
The old school techniques of tilling or breaking up the soil and adding compost did technically work as nutrition was added through compost but Masanobu, one of the proponents of the natural farming movement, found that it is wasted effort all to keep a farm plot “tidy” in the eyes of man.

You’ll have to take my word for it as I don’t have the study on hand but research into no-till farms that used compost for fertility never see an actual increase in organic matter in their soil. The process of tilling which wounds the soil surface may be temporarily bandaged by an application of compost but as much nutrition is lost to the air as it is gained in the soil which is quickly depleted through the next year’s crop.

Natural farming utilizes strategic plantings which I would bet both your and my ancestors practiced for many years before even the ancient introductions of the hoe and tilling. Simply put, a sowing of a cover crop is mulched once fully grown and down into, either through direct planting or broadcasting.

This year I’ve begun experimenting with this method in the .85 acre parcel I’m fixing up and just by simply broadcasting whatever cool weather hardy soil building mixes I can find before a frost or rain I have had incredible germination just from hand broadcasting seed into exposed and weedy ground alike.

My current plan is to let these oats, radish, turnip, rapeseed, sunflowers, and others grow through early spring, mulch them into rows, and sow a milpa which is a blend of flowers, cover crops, and vegetables that I highly recommend looking into. From here the spring will see all of these plants growing through the precious crop’s mulch and their subsequent harvest.

Goddamn I love growing shit.

>>54334298
Violins are gay and that’s been proven by science. For gold I wanted to stick to American stuff so it was either that or the eagle and I wanted 24k. I agree there’s a lot better looking coins. I will definitely put red man faced down.

>>54334341
This was the liberty design I liked. Dem milkers.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.ifitshipitshere.com/american-liberty-coin-design-candidates/amp/

Other designs in the link. Including a couple of cool looking African American ladies better than the one they chose imo

>>54334294
Yes anon, I'll pay and take that woman. I'm asking how many silvers she costs.

>>54334386
>>54334278
violins are meh. what really bugs me about the phils is the design is so fuckin lame, like some 1998 Microsoft Office clip art that. I honestly don't understand how people buy those. American buffalo grew on me big time after i got one and held it in my hand. pics just don't do it justice. the nigger indian is whatever, but the buffalo on the back is epic. also, the texture is insane. that wrinkle crinkle foil look is one of a kind. Phils are snooze town for people that listen to the radio, read the newspaper, and have fat white wives that read magazines

>>54334439
no, i mean you'll have to be the one paying me to take her. no self respecting human adult male would touch that.

>>54334245
1000 to 5000ozt seems very steep anon.

>>54334212
make comfy low poly pepe prospecting game
if anons over at /agdg/ can publish games you can too

>0 - 10 oz
NGMI, you will own nothing and be happy

>10 - 50 oz
Probably won't make it, though you will still fair better then 98% of the population who have none

>50 - 100 oz
Just enough to keep you alive during the hard times

>100 - 150 0z
Gonna make it but you'll wish you had more, enough to maybe buy a house or a couple of acres but that's about it. You'll still need figure out a way to earn an income in the world after the fall.

>150 - 250 oz
Sitting comfortably on your new property with some oz to spare, middle class in the new world

>250 to 500 oz
Upper class, may even be able to afford servants to work your property

>500 - 1000+ oz
The new elite class in the world that comes after the fall. You won't have to lift a finger for the rest of your life.

>>54334439
dude if you marry her, her family will give YOU gold and silver. thats how the indian dowry works

>>54334464
:(

>>54334497
That's a nice bonus. Will the kids be smart?

>>54334293
Oh? I wonder what will be the case at the LCS who is an official partner of them. Maybe I'll get more oddballs in my tubes like that one unstamped 1 oz I got my first time.

>>54334497
That seems very old fashioned. What's expected of the groom in return? These forms of gift-giving are a disguised trade or even the prototype of trading.

>>54334419
That is stunning. Makes me think of germania mint stuff. Was considering picking up one of their kilos tomorrow.

>>54334528
the wife is seen as a burden, so the groom needs compensation for taking her in. it's actually pretty based

>>54334489
When is the price suppression expected to wear off in your eyes?

>>54334372
Anon how would you integrate this into the rotational crop farming method? Is there wisdom in letting a field lie fallow after all?

>>54334553
What the hell? That seems very one-sided. I like it. Of course, we're talking rationally here and not taking emotions like love into the bargain. Such things are a luxury in a family. Nice to have but strictly not necessary. See: examples of Italian nobility marrying each other and the subsequent disastrous love lives of having mistresses outside.

>>54334528
The Indian dowry-system was imported from the middle east, it does not work in the Indian culture, that's why they are fucked if they only have daughters.
Middle-east, you pay for the groom who will become part of your family's workforce. This payment was integrated into Indian culture but not the family structure, therefor we end up with a retarded pajeet dowry system in which you financially do the same as the guys from the middle-east, but as your culture sends the daughter to the family of the groom paying for losing someone to a different family.

What are those funny old European silver coins called that have some animals on them sometimes, they're called something like 'German fisher coins' or something. They look like prop coins you'd see in a treasure chest in a movie or something.

>>54334614
That middle eastern system makes more sense. I find it strange that you can get something for nothing since the world does not work this way even among animals like crows and ravens, and it looks like the Indians fucked up.

>>54334473
If you have the financial firepower to get to 1k, 5k is an appropriate challenge. It's not about collecting badges. It's about changes in lifestyle over time. Poorfags won't (shouldn't) always be poor.

>>54334562
Glad you brought that up, anon. My parcel can be easily broken into three lots of about a quarter acre each. The staple crops I can easily grow in my region are potatoes and sweet potatoes. I plant the potatoes in late February or early March in one lot and the sweet potatoes in the next in early spring after our last frost date (April 15th). The remaining lot I plant to just milpa which is a combination of cover crops, vegetables, and pollinator attracting flowers. This mix is planted with every other lot but at about half to 3/4 as much as the focus is more on the staple crops.

With this system in mind, the milpa is grown each year in every area while the staple crops are cycled yearly into the next lot. The milpa is so diverse that it can be planted in the same place every year as no mono crop or specific depletion of soil fertility occurs.

This is all planted in beds that extend the whole length of the lot with small walkways between them just large enough to have trees, shrubs, herbs, and other perennials populate the space.

I really recommend looking into milpa even though there is not nearly enough writing on them.

>>54334639
you're taking on the lifelong responsibility of caring for a woman and all her children. i don't view it as getting something for nothing.

>>54334560
According to Cliff High price suppression ends in May

>>54334639
I should mention that the Indian origin of the dowry is disputed, but it seems it was non existent in the vedic age, and likely developed after the spread of Islam. So it's very likely an alien custom forced into the existing tradition.
As religions practices usually aren't disputed much, if you have to fear getting executed if you do, it's the likely origin of it not making sense.

It's also one of the often used fun "anti women" feminism claims, pretending it's the girls themselves who are unwanted, when it's simply the law making them financially problematic. ,.. kinda like china where not wanting girls is a result of discriminating men only giving them the legal burden of having to financially care for the parents in old age, making boys the default choice if you can only have one child as only male offspring is legally bound to care for you. (there not being a state pension and communism making it impossible to have a private pension the only option).

In both cases legislation of tradition created without taking into account the ones already existing.

What do I buy as a safe? Some anon recommended Hayman CV-27-C Burglar Safe (picrel), oit's $850 on sale. That's a lot of money, any other suggestions or just pull the trigger?

>>54334822
forgot pic

>>54334694
That milpa sounds interesting. But probably won’t work too well if we’re talking suburban garden sizes.
Anyways, your posts shall go into my useful 4chan screenshots folder. If I ever get some property to try it out or if I decide to farm my farmland and if /pmg/ still exists, I’ll let you know how it works.

>>54334735
>According to Cliff High price suppression ends in May

Do you remember in what post or podcast he discussed it? Was it in one he put up on March 10?

>>54334831
Looks like a decent one, not in the US so not familiar with the brand, the type of lock of the pic makes sense.
But I might prefer having a weaker resistance-level and one as as decoy.
Where you put the safe is more important than the safe, the low weight also makes it necessary to bolt it to some concrete of the building to keep it from being carried away. 165 pounds is OK-ish, but not impossible to manage by two men determined getting it into a van.

>>54334899
Weigh it down with copper kilos

>>54334853
Actually, the milpa system would probably work even better in a raised bed or even a container vs rows over a larger space! Think about it; take a 4x8 raised bed or a container, make a simple mix of whatever plants you would like to grow, sprinkle them evenly over the surface, and mulch with hopefully the residue of the last grow or straw until you are generating enough mulch yourself.

While you can’t just dump packets of seed into a smaller space, this means you can add a little bit of each packet into a mason jar, shake it up, and carefully cover your growing space.

I did this when I had a small backyard and it worked great. Your leafy greens and root vegetables will come up first while the flowers, cover crops, and fruiting vegetables begin to establish and the small gaps left by the harvested early crops can be simply covered with more mulch. However, the dense plantings of a milpa usually don’t even require covering what is harvested.

>>54331833
>>54331610
saludos muchachos

>>54334419
very nice, silver and gold with attractive women on it has always been popular, even in BC era.

>>54334716
>all her children
They should be yours too Anon.

people are saying online retailers are running out of inventory but i am not seeing it. i was really hoping for some copium today because i have to wage tomorrow and will probably have to work tonight to catch up

>>54335147
online retailers are always going to have some inventory. quickly looking at jmbullion is not an accurate measure of anything

>>54335217
>>Bullion dealers
I saw the Montserrat turtles come and go.
Man - that was a flash. Protip: those are going to become collector desireables.

>>54334831
I was the one who suggested this one. It's not electronic, so nothing electronic to fail. It bolts to the floor. In my case a concrete floor. And if you add that wifi puck alarm system, you'll know via your smartphone if someone is fucking with it, allowing you to call the cops from work, vacation destination etc. Just a suggestion. I would get whatever suits your personal needs and space. I'd just make sure you got something large enough to accommodate an ever increasing stack.

>>54335259
Yea, my other consideration was I also have a rifle and a handgun, so it might make sense to get a gun safe for the size. However I do like this one

>>54334293
none of this matters. silver eagles become 2x spot, premium coins become 1.5x spot, 10oz bars are 13x spot, and spot is still mid $20's per ounce because SLV doesn't budge.

>>54335259
It looks like a good quality safe alright. But it would only hold my non-silver PMs and some choice silver items. Better than what I have now though (obscurity).

>>54334305
>>54334317
the monality of man

>>54335289
I personally keep the just the guns in the gun safe. I'd rather not put all my eggs in one basket. Guns safes are large and pretty hard to hide. This safe can be hidden in a false kitchen or bathroom cabinet, or event bolted to the rafters in an attic. The somewhat small size gives you quite a few options, if you're creative.

>>54333979
yes. what's goin on brother

>>54334822
Look into Hollon TL-15 safes. Also do your research into the difference between RSCs and actual safes

I don’t get safes unless you have kids and a gay wife. A false wall in a closet or floor allows you to store immense amounts of metals and my guns are hanging in every room or shelf in my house because I’ll be goddamned if I can’t have them accessible within 10 feet of wherever I am. Throwing all your shit in a safe seems silly.

>>54335358
Damn that makes a lot of sense. I think I will go with this safe

>>54335399
i agree, a good hiding spot seems much better. plus any money you blow on an expensive safe could just be more PMs

>>54335420
My thoughts exactly. I think there’s a false sense of security with a safe but anything below something that can be picked up is worthless and big fucking monster safes mean you are just making accessing your guns all the more difficult plus putting all of your metals in one place is still asking for trouble. A fake wall or stashing in random hard to find places decentralizes your stack and I love the fact I have both a handgun and shotgun/rifle immediately accessible in every room of my house.

Maybe the greater focus should be a light system outside of your house along with big fucking dogs and a stay at home wife who can shoot.

>>54332149
If they handed that to me even free I would take it and smelt the shit out of it even if it was the last coin and for a collector would pay stupid for it I would destroy it.

I would have it turned into a coin with the image of a noose with the words insert nigger here.

What are the flips that most dealers sell their coins in made out of? I don’t feel like buying more capsules and am content with whatever light tarnishing may occur on my coins if left in their flips. I have brought this up before and heard that most dealers don’t use PVC anymore but vinyl instead. Any thoughts?

>>54332149

Only because you’d hold your breath so as not to ingest that primal Niggerstank.

>>54335599
the flips are garbage dude, don't use those long term.

>>54335674
Fuggg, just stick to capsules? What size do I get for the average silver oz? Not stacking ASEs so I’m talking krugs or weiners.

>>54333979
>>54334212
>>54332588
>>54335081
que pasa amigos
lets all gather round and bask in the comfy warmth of the /pmg/ hearth

>>54335599
the JM bullion flips are vinyl. The ones I've gotten were mostly broken at the seams. they're pretty much garbage

>>54335747
Just bought 20 more capsules with adjustable foam gaskets for 8 shekels. I’ve had flips break on me in the mail before and I guess it’s a small price to pay for autistic protection of my sweet baby girls.

I have this heavy Chanel gold ring with several gems on it but have no idea what it's worth or find the model online. Should I just get it appraised? Not sure if I have to pay to get a simple appraisal

>>54335765
Are the foam gaskets worth it? It isn't like gold tarnishes

>>54335793
as far as I know most jewelers will appraise for free

>>54335814
Good to know. Just wondered since I have a suspicion that all the jewelry store workers at my mall are wagies that don't know anything

>>54335798
It's not about the tarnish. Not all coins are the same size so if it's not fit snugly in the capsule, it can bounce around and damage the coin over time especially if it's soft 24k

>>54335504
>big fucking dogs
>stay at home wife

you just know

>>54333311
Withdrawing cash ends the fed?

>>54335728
look up the exact mm diameter of your coins and buy the appropriate capsules on amazon or wherever. not too difficult

I know where I can buy 500 ouces of silver rounds for under $14k

that's $4.05 per ounce over spot.

>>54336052
= $ 2025.oo in premiums.

>>54334245
damn, that 1% description is spot on. i remember reflecting on my silver stack and thinking i needed to diversify into gold and platinum. im somewhere hovering close to moving from a fifth man to a comex player which is kinda neat

>>54334614
wow, that is highly retarded

ya a dowry was paid to the family "loosing" the member to offset the financial burden put on the family giving the daughter (or son) away

>>54335728
40.6 mm should fit almost every 1-ozt round/coin, but most of them will have room left over. I'm nearly done with a 250-count box of 39 mm after having gone through two 50-count, and just opened my second 250-count box of 40.6 mm. I organize mostly by country/mint in tubes.
Buy them in bulk... you will eventually use them and the economy of scale is worth it.

>>54336152
>250-count box
Wait. Scratch that. I forgot about (because I don't have any - didn't know about them at the time) the 120-count capsules from amazon that come in cases. Pic related. I think "41 mm" means 40.6.

>>54336220
I've bought that set before, they fit pretty much everything

>>54336152
Are you...putting all your bullion in capsules?

>>54336102
When you put it like that, it’s kinda fucked up.

>>54336220
Just cancelled the 20 count order for 100. Price definitely drops with larger orders as I’m spending about 10 shekels more for an extra 80. Appreciate the help, anon. I’m using small electronics cases to store about 3k$ of metals each around my house versus shoving 100s into plastic containers but they are a nice option as well.

>>54336241
Do you not?

>>54336245
yeah. i usually like to think of the premium as just part of the "real price" of silver, which it is.
but when i stop and think about it too much. it makes me hesitate.

still, seems like a decent premium compared to some.

>>54334439
One baby goat for the missus ser

>>54336333
Checked
No, that would be a shit ton of plastic taking up space. They come in tubes. The only things I put in capsules are collection stuff and 999.9 gold coins. Everything else stays in their factory tubes.

>>54336480

I'm going to sleep...

>>54336396
At that point why not just get krugs or philharmonics for the same price? They are sovereign and more liquid. I never understood the silver round meme. Maybe something im missing.

>>54334326
>>54335363
>>54335741
>>54336516
>>54336516
>>54336516
you didn't reply to any of us nigga.

>>54336521
Coomers love their germanias and shit

>>54336521
this desu, I basically only buy tubes of brits or maples or krugs on plebbit when they pop up for less than $3 over spot.

>>54336521
what im looking at for that price is 1oz silver Armenian Noah's Ark rounds at Monument Metals.
yes, Krugs and Phillies are close to that same price

>>54336516
join us n the comfy fort. its time to chat

>>54336566

It's too late for me. Goodnight fren.

>>54336245
>>54336396
you know you can get the premium back when you sell, right
honestly you people are so dumb

>>54336614

>>54336617
good nite fren. have a comfy sleep

>>54336626
that's exactly part of my plan anon.
if i buy a monster boxe, they will be my first pieces to sell if sliver moons enough

>>54336626
not always. random literal who generics sell closer to spot than numismatics and sovereign shit, so if you can get the sovereign for the same price, you may as well.

>>54336626
>when you sell

anyone know wtf this means?
like hes writing hieroglyphics or something

>>54336480
I respect the bulk order mindset. I am trying to stash smaller satchels of them versus a giant ammo box so I’m looking for at much smaller orders in smaller cases. I can still fit a good deal of silver and gold in each but after filling my first ammo crate I’m tired of moving massive cans that I can’t easily pick through to look at particular designs.

>>54331285
People were saying the computer would put people out of work too. Same thing for the internet. Get over yourself and realize there will always be jobs for skilled professionals.

>>54336626
kek prove it

>>54336701
>why would I bother about liquidity of my investment

>>54336241
>putting all your bullion
Only the one-offs. I have bought tubes and keep those rounds in the original tubes. It's actually easier at some point to just have a system.

>>54336234
>I've bought that set before
You may have been the one whose post I saw about them. I listen. I wish I had known earlier. Maybe ten years ago these didn't exist. Yeah - that's it. I'll tell myself that as a cope.

>>54336257
Whew! Just in time.

>>54330949
>>54330978
Are any of you anons (especially anons holding gold) worried about when it comes time to sell? 1 oz of gold already reaches the threshold of them checking ID. What is your plan to deal with this crap since especially if shit gets bad the taxes applied to selling PMs will probably be insane.

>>54334896
Its about 25 mins in.
https://clifhigh.substack.com/p/atypical-spring-and-summer#details

>>54332930
read teaming with microbes, teaming with nutrients, and teaming with fungi in that order

>>54336908
>worried about when it comes time to sell?
Sort of. Not sure when that would be. Once I get near death, I won't really care - I have no kids, so meh. I'd worry if I ran out of other assets - PMs will be the last to go precisely because it is a last resort (assuming no SHTF scenario). OTOH, maybe now when gold is reasonably high and I'm still able to get around to dumping it.

>threshold of them checking ID.
Eh? Must be a Euro thing. No, I'm not worried about that.

>taxes
Only on the profit. I have all receipts, so can prove how little profit there would be. Also, CGT is taxed at income rate - at worst 28%, and that's been the way it has been my whole life, so meh.

>$23.09

Just saw Callinex Mines recommended as they closed a huge financing deal to expand their mining. Any thoughts? Seem like a solid company.

>>54332149
>70% Premium
>Minted 2017
This is what the US did with the gold in Fort Knox. It's just an extra security measure to keep people from taking it.

are you enjoying the open?

>>54337063
>Any thoughts?
All mines are getting Nationalised, no Country is going to allow the profits of its much revalued higher mineral wealth to leave the Country into the hands of private investors.

Miner investors are about to get fucked as hard as the people who own metals on paper.

>>54336908
I’m hoping to buy land with my pm’s so not sure how that’ll all work tax wise. Maybe I can get him to sell his land at cost or take a “loss” and cover the difference with cash or loan

Kek

>>54335504
Yessss, keep those metals in a coffee can that will definitely not be found during a smash and grab

>>54337122
>10 dollars

>>54337128
I’d be surprised if they didn’t just take the considerable amount I had laying out and leave. I would.

KENTUCKY GOVERNOR PASSED A LAW FRIDAY REMOVING SALES TAX ON PM

>>54337013
That makes sense, PMs are also more of my SHTF investment so like you I will be diligent of keeping my receipts if I need to worry about CGT. I'm not a euro either but with how their shit is going I wouldn't be surprised if the ID crap comes elsewhere.
>>54337112
Makes sense anon, owning land seems to be the goal for sure.

Alright /biz/, tell me what to get next. So far, the onthy thing I've got is 23 10 ounce bars. I need to diversify. Should I be getting silver eagles and pay the higher premiums with lots of recognition, or cheaper asahi rounds? What should I get with $5k?

>>54337317
gold

>>54337317
Gold

>>54336757
Luddites were saying it about automation in the textile industry 200 years ago. But instead of shutting people out of work it started the industrial revolution that changed the world and made everybody dramatically wealthier.

>>54337326
>>54337343
>goldshills
yikes

>>54337326
>>54337343
Should I go for an oz of gold for every 100oz of silver

>>54336908
You don't sell money, you exchange it for goods and services as needed. Stop thinking in terms of fiat and start thinking in terms of money with intrinsic value.

>>54337326
>>54337343
Wtf. Is gold getting shilled right now? Why? I was about to buy another oz. Second guessing that.

Pretty kino video l found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPS25rG0Wew

>>54337364
1:100 is the holy grail, fren. If you find yourself heavy into silver right now but don’t want to go cold turkey until you’re at a healthier ratio, simply slow your silver buys while saving for the gold.

>>54337389
Am I the only one who noticed the last few weeks gold has been shilled a lot? Many OPs had only gold, many times gold was suggested when someone asked what to stack. Many asking what to stack next after having a weird ratio like 1:10 or 1:30.
Gold is currently a distraction from silver at this ridiculously high silver:gold price ratio.
The general agreement is to get gold:silver at 1:100 weight ratio if you're skeptical of the physical silver squeeze. If you believe it's going to happen you can stack even more silver, at a ratio like 1:200, 1:500, etc.

>>54330699
Nothing wrong with this, a prince from Dubai will still buy it for top dollar 100 years from now and there are machines that identify lab diamonds which is making and will continue to make these natural diamonds cost more and more.

>>54337483
>General agreement buy silver goy
>muh Solarpanel goy
>Silver ends the Fed goy
Shut up Jew. 1:10 weight ratio is more than fair enough. Gold is god's money.
Silver is a psyop to get you and pay 30% premium on a shitcoin.
It's ok to have silver, but the focus is on gold.

>>54330699
Nice

>>54337483
I don’t think there’s any schizo theory behind gold shills. As a 1:100 guy I like the ratio because I know I have a cute little stack of gold and a sizable amount of silver as well. However, the gold maximalists have a solid argument either for gold or against silver. Gold will likely see a continuous rise over the years as it has forever but silver may very well face continued suppression at the hands of the long nose tribe. This is by no mean fudding, even after getting to 5:500 I’ve found myself already uneven at 5:560, but my future stacking will be a far more even balance of gold and silver purchases.

IF we are about to break a 40 year losing streak for silver and the smarter move would have been to all be in silver I don’t even think the gold-only crowd would be that butthurt. At the end of the day, they’re sitting on a nice pile of gold…

can i get qrd on apmex price matching? silver heist did a video on it, but i cant bear to listen to his speech impediment

>>54336774
>>54331431
>makes me wonder how much of a let down the 2008 stackers felt
they're still stacking, anon

>>54334735
>May

1 month untill the cheapies window closes FOREVER and the vast majority of the populace will be priced out, stack as much as you can frens

>>54337547
I do believe that whole silver ends of the Fed, and r3ddit silver squeeze was nothing but a psyop by Big Silver corp.
The same day r3ddit started it's retarded squeeze attempt, silver premiums skyrocketed. Premiums going to 100% and more on some mints.
I remember few years back you could get silver bullions for less than 10% premium.
Now it's impossible to find anything below 30% even if you buy a kilo.

>>54337483
no I just prefer gold because of the look/feel and the low premiums. I always feel like I'm getting scammed when I buy silver even after securing premiums as low as possible typical of silver. A lot of anons are coming into this gen with a few thousand to spend so I always recommend gold since an ounce or two is easily within their budget.

Came across this beauty at my LCS. Really wanted it but couldnt pull the trigger. Would you have bought one?

>>54337722
(world's first five 9s)

My in laws just visited from China and brought me a ton of silver coins and some gold for my daughters birth

Should I share??

>>54337483
"This is gold, Mr. Bond. All my life, I've been in love with its color, its brilliance, its divine heaviness. I welcome any enterprise that will increase my stock, which is considerable."

>>54337367
This. The sticker price does not reflect real value. It is not a reflection of production cost, either. There are subsidies, taxes, debts, and loopholes that go into the final price of any product or service which will not be the case once the fiat system is abolished and sound money becomes the standard once more.
>>54337698
Who says you have to buy from Shekelstein? Go to any antique store and you could probably find a kilo of sterling for under spot. You're just too lazy to leave your house to shop.

>>54337773
>Have to browse for cheapies in flee markets and garage sales
Yeah... How about not?
Less than 5 years ago there was a mere 10% on silver bullions, explain to me why the premiums went up so much since the
>Muh silver squeeze
And haven't gone back down since?

>>54337755
No takers?
okay fine

>>54337547
Gold is kikes' money. Reserves are immense and it's mostly in the hands of jewry.
And you are a complete retard if you can't find better deals than 30% premium.

Truth is gold is for boomers afraid of their own shadow, hiding in their cabans hoping to weather the storm. All you wish for is to break even once the dollar collapse.
Adventurers seeking big gains are on silver. Staying equally poor is not what i wish for. I'm here to seize an once in a lifetime opportunity in the incoming financial chaos, i'm here to ride the storm.
We aren't carved in the same wood, boomie.

>>54337804
>I am lazy
k then
>ywn develop a personal friendship with your local coin merchant so you can get betters deals and even freebies

>>54337807
Show the pandas fren.
>>54337804
Psyop.

>>54337804
Also it could have something to do with the unprecedented inflation and imminent collapse of the fiat dollar.

>>54337711
>and the low premiums
That's all you think about yet you never mention gold's extraction cost is sitting at $1400/oz. Right now, that's a $600 margin per oz, and that's BEFORE premiums.
Goldbugs are getting jewed more without even noticing it lol.

>>54337843
They aren't pandas
lunar new year animals from 2011
Also famous Chinese painting silver coins from a decade ago

>>54337673
It would seriously be mad max if price supression ended. Silver at $50 is newsworthy. At $150 it would be mad max. Cops would realize their $18/hr aint shit. Teachers realize their $15 aint shit. People would walk off their jobs because gas would be $30/gal.

>>54337874
>extraction cost
What about refinement, transport, storage, etc? You don't think those are factored in at an average? The premium is just a dealer's fee to cover their overhead.

>>54337839
I started with buying silver, about 5 years ago just before the lockdowns hit and before the GME squeeze. And subsequent silver squeeze attempt.
Literally saw the premiums skyrocket, and have not bought any silver ever since.
I can get gold for 2% premium, and if i want to sell it back to my dealer, the spread is 5%.
I still have my 300ounces of silver, don't regret getting them, but not gonna buy any more. My focus is now on gold and platinum, and you are a fool if you didn't read the signs.
>Shills shilling silver on all social media nonstop, immediately the premiums explode
>>54337842
>You have to browse daily and be friends with a dealer
Most retarded argument itt.

>>54337909
>browse daily
No. Just be regular. A few times a month, one a week at most. Make a decent regular purchase and don't be a pussy fuckhead.
You are arguing in bad faith. Post 300oz stack or stfu.

>>54337839
larp

>>54337909
>about 5 years ago just before the lockdowns
Retarded bot can't read a calendar.
>I replied to a bot
>twice

>>54337909
Yes some merchants are trying to bank on (easily predictable) silver hype, what's new here? That's what merchants do. That wont prevent me from continuing to stack. I simply have to adapt so they don't get their cut on my back.
You all complain about premiums, but when highly knowledgeable anons like scrapbro try to teach you how to stack silver for way below spot, you either act as it's too much work, or lazily call him a larp.
All i say is : good for him, it's less competition.

>>54337926
Don't have it all on me. Locked away in a safe with the rest of my shinies. Here's a sample.
Don't think that i don't like/appreciate silver. It's shininess and antibacterial properties are reason enough to love it.
But Gold is Gold. Gold is King.

>>54337483
>"everyone should get both gold and silver, in a way that helps the physical silver squeeze and let you hoard enough gold too"
>"NO NO NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, buy only gold, don't buy silver at all"
Seems I triggered a lot of them.

>>54337958
Lockdowns started 4 years ago in November 2019 retard. It's called COVID 19....
And i started buying silver beginning of that year.

So are anons buying 200$+ silver at a time to secure lower premiums on dealer sites? I’ve exclusively bought through dealers on eBay and even tubes don’t seem to drop below 27$.

>>54337988
Your weak apology does not negate your bad faith argument.

New thread baking, limited edition John Wick theme
>>54338021
>>54338021
>>54338021

>>54338032
It has to be a falseflag, r-r-right?

>>54338011
>Lockdowns started 4 years ago in November 2019 retard.
Where? Nothing was reported out of China until mid December. You're a lying sack of shit.

>>54338026
>Apologies
>Tries to turn the argument
Shut up Karen. Not apologizing nor backtracking on anything i said.
Silver to Gold ratio 10:1 is just fine.
Anything more is bad investment.

>>54338046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilognl6HzDk

>>54338058
>no arguments
>only namecalling and baseless postulation
just take the L, shill

>>54338048
And you're a retard. Try to Google some headlines so you don't give it away that quickly. By February 2020 the entire world was locked down.

>>54338077
>headlines
Ah yes, let me tune in to the cabal-owned news media to develop my worldview. Moron.

>>54338074
>Again no argument just emotions
>Tell me you're a virgin without telling me you're a virgin
Nice argument, you must be a master at debating.

>>54338077
No, the entire world was not locked down in February. Fauci was doing rounds on national TV saying masks weren't necessary and covid was nothing to worry about.

>>54338091
LMAO! Meds now.

>>54338105
>>54338126
>zero substance
>blatant shitposting
Jew

>>54336241
when I was a newbie stacker, I put all my rounds in capsules, especially my eagles, because it was my precious treasure. I was like Golem. Now I just keep them in regular cylinders.

>just started stacking copper
Ahh, yeeeeeeep

>>54338309
Are you literally me?

>>54337988
you are full of shit

>>54338077
>By February 2020 the entire world was locked down.
My wife's Mom passed in mid-Feb. We had to travel to DC from the PNW, returning third week of Feb. Lockdowns were not yet in place. Masks were not yet required.

>>54338077
No, you're off by about a month

New bread has been baked
>>54338021