/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54305557
Impressive. Very nice.

>SHARES OF DEUTSCHE BANK FALL 9.7%
>CREDIT SUISSE FALL 4.9%
>UBS FALL 4.0%
>BARCLAYS FALL 4.2%
>HSBC FALL 3.6%

>>54305557
At what point do we buy back in? These fuckers are too big to fail.

>>54305597
>Boaz

>>54305557
There seems to be a pattern here:
>FUD a bank
>pump it during the week to fuck retail puts
>FUD it again on Friday (it’s really collapsing this time!)
>government takeover of the bank over the weekend, in an extra jewish way
>put holders and call holders are both fucked, as are retail shareholders & 401ks. But (((market makers))) have maximized their positions both ways.

>YELLEN CONVENES EMERGENCY FINANCIAL STABILITY MEETING ON FRIDAY

Nothing to worry about folks!
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1679023387002716.webm

Deutsche is the victim here!

The market is just irrational!

>>54305840
wow they just bailed out their donors.

GAS GAS GAS

>>54305557
DJ Billybool predicted this

>>54305557
Noooo my entire life savings (50€) will be gone!!!!

>the Dutch are scum

>>54305950
They were pretty bad in those pirates of the Caribbean movies too. Scoundrels.

>>54305840
nice source here's your you

>>54305557
New logo just dropped.

>>54305980
It's right there on Bloomberg chief
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-24/yellen-calls-friday-fsoc-meeting-after-banking-sector-turmoil

>>54305995
Impressive. Very nice.

>>54305995
Kek. I want this to happen just so I don't have to look up how to spell it ever again.

>>54305744
This time it’s different

>>54305870
Think of the poor bankers

>>54305995
>their logo is a falling domino

>>54305995

>>54305995
LOL

>>54306172

>>54306247
good one mate
May I save it?

>>54305557

>>54306267
Thanks Lori!

>>54305557
It is my responsibility as an american tax payer to bailout Deutsche bank!
I suggest we set up a GoFundMe and we can all start donating.
Who's with me?!

>>54306247
saved

>>54306467
Patreon. They need a subscription service.

>>54306467
I mean, it 100% will happen.

Via swap lines.

>>54305870
Ah yes those greedy homeowners strike again just like 2008

>>54306374
so what. let the losers at the cds market lose.
it's quite obvious that this is just a concerted effort to destabilize certain banks and make a quick buck from the current market mood.
These idiots will be left holding the bag. Deutsche is solid and the boche would never allow it to fail.
Also, it is way bigger than Credit Suisse. CS was already just a shadow of its former self when this whole crisis began.

>>54306247
looks more like an empty battery

>>54305557
They will be bailed out.

>>54305995
If only.

How many bailouts can the financial system stand

>>54310316
All of them, if they just keep printing

>>54305870
>REEE STOP BEING IRRATIONAL YOURE HURTING THE HECKIN BANKS

Can someone please look up CDS values for some other SiBs? I don't have access to CDS data

>>54307514
I pray for the financial apocalypse to happen but even i know the EBC will step in long before things get worse, this is just another show of theatrics to drain money from those losers for one last pump

>>54305840
Some depositors are more equal than others:
>VC funds
>Tech trannies
>Prince Harry
>Israeli companies
>Gavin Newsom

Bidenbros can't stop winning

>>54310413
It can't be sure they survived 2008 but this looks worse they are really fucked its either inflation or depression but they are not escaping this one

>>54310659
*ECB im a bit retarded

>>54305572

>>54310790
KEK

>>54305744
Monday at 11am CET following the inevitable ECB/Bundesbank intervention drawn up this weekend.

Das ist kaput

>>54310872
kecht

There was a judge over seeing a case related to Dbank and possibly Epstein.

Long story short a hitman went to her home and shot her husband and son.

>>54311488
>look up article
>"motive unclear"
>insinuates the lead suspect is some septuagenarian lawyer who conveniently "killed himself" and was found dead
>actual killer never found

Hasn't DB been 2 weeks since like 2008? I can only assume it's where all the elites park their money, so will be protected to the hilt. It's like the Ukraine of banks, with probably as much pedo drug lording. I hope it fails and we all die.

>>54311912
Yeah it is definitely schizo tier. Two more weeks. Hence the OP pic

Of course people thought the same about Bear Stearns and Lehman. Everything can change in a weekend. Not saying it's this weekend, who knows. Two more weeks.

>>54305557
NOW CHARLES SCHWAB

>>54305995
i see what u did there anon. most impressive.

>>54312267
Good, im holding puts, fn die Charles

Germans store gold even the citizens do it, they might be ready for this kind of thing

>>>54305995

2 years in photoshop pro

>>54313441
>liquidity crisis: allow me to introduce myself

>>54310790
this is so good, holy shit
>Venmo a BIPOC
kek

>>54311488
checked
deutsche and JPM were just court ordered to give details about their transactions with Epstein (ie Mossad, CIA, MI6)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/21/business/jpmorgan-deutsche-bank-epstein-lawsuits/index.html

>>54312267
oh shit
a whole bunch of boomers are about to lose their 401ks arent they

>>54305870
b-but they told me economic agents are rational...

>>54305557
Stick a fork in it.

>>54310790
Kek

Oh shit. Sorry, I was wrong.

Time to pack it up boys, everything is fine.

>>54314085
>SPD
>Crisis in Germany

Classic

>>54312267
Fuck.

>>54313960
>>54314231
>>54312267
Based

>>54311488
Check 'em

>>54311488
Checked and kek'd

>>54305870
I never thought I'd hear the words "Deutsche Bank" and "victim" in the same sentence. Hell is freezing over.

And we wait.

>>54310772
>they are not escaping this one

We are proud and we are loud. We self-identify as a thriving economy. Our breadlines are authentic expressions of our originality and sustainability. We have shifted away from antiquated meat diets. Our unemployment frees us from traditional power structures and empowers us to speak our truth. We take the worthless paper that our currency has become and use it to make dresses for drag. Poverty teaches us to find meaning in our queerness. We are black and we are brown. The antiquated logic of white economists can no longer hold us back.

Because fundamentally, we self-identify as successful.

>>54313960
712 bps.... IT'S BEYOND OVER

>>54315218
Kek, a true maestro

>>54313960
what is DB specifically exposed to that everyone thinks theyre at risk for?

>>54316033
GRID
>>54315218
lmao

>>54305744
Even dinosaurs weren't too big to fail, anon. Think about it.

>>54316217

>>54316283
>priced in
they'd be thinking "bullish"

>>54305744
They're too big to fail, you aren't.

>>54305870
oy vey, if the market is going down is because of your blatant antisemitism

>>54316217
stupid fukin meme

>>54305815
We have a nooticer here

>>54305557
>somehow they're always failing on the friday
>lets the CB have time to come up with a plan
kinda fishy
same thing was with SVB and others

>>54305815
>government takeover of the bank over the weekend, in an extra jewish way
This news is just to give the kikes extra time to get off the sinking ship while all the goys stay on trusting the science

>>54305840
Jfc what an antisemite. He hates her with passion

>>54305995

>>54307514
The bank may not fail but the Central Bankers signaled that bond holders will not be bailed out, that’s why CDS are blowing up. Bond holders are trying to force the central bankers to guarantee their bonds or their crashing the market

>>54305557
My life savings is in Deutsche Bank. Am I ok?

German accountant here and i hate this. All banks will demand constant in-year reports. FML

>>54318797
What's the word on the workfloor, Hans?
Sind Sie nervös?

>>54306467
I’m with you if Deutsch Bank bombs Pearl Harbor.

>>54315098
Two more weeks

>>54318970
The real question is how low it will go before the inevitable surge and/or bailout

>>54305870
fucking lol

>>54305744
>These fuckers are too big to fail
They said the same thing about Credit Suisse...

>>54305744
Too big to fail, too big to save. Make your bet

I interned at Deutsche's Private Equity branch a few years ago. It's scary to see them fall down this easily

>>54320863
>this easily
It's been brewing for almost 2 decades

>>54320075
>He thinks credit suisse won't recover
Thanks for playing goy

>>54322315
?

They are literally being bought out my dude.

>>54306374
i am no mutt
what is cds?

>>54322464
It’s insurance if the underlying bond fails I think. The same shit they sold on the movie the big short to get astronomically rich.

>>54305557
Is this bullish for crypto?

>>54322499
who actually pays the insurance in the event of default?

>>54322499
>It’s insurance if the underlying bond fails I think. The same shit they sold on the movie the big short to get astronomically rich.

it's a derivative you can trade, if deutsche bank defaults on its debt you get paid. you don't need to own any of the debt to own the derivative.

>>54322608
The counterparty issuing the CDS, which isn't the bank itself, but some other bank or firm.

>>54318768
OK to suck my dick for a dime.

>>54305870
if you looked at their balance sheet for just one second you would see that the chances of them failing are basically zero. Very well capitalized and profitable bank unlike CS which had been pissing money away for the last 7y to lawsuits and blowups.

>>54322687
Thanks Jim

>>54322315
Retard.

>>54310790
L

>>54322657
Ahh Jews..!

>>54322668
if they default too are you SoL?

>>54305557
>decade ago
>19, trying to get a job so my family wont think I'm a failure
>apply to internship at deutsche bank
>they ask me if I'm ok with them doing a background check
>"sure no problem, I never even spoke to a cop haha"
>they ghost me
Fuck those faggots

>>54316283
topkek

>>54314085
Just a flesh wound!

>>54314085
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SELL SELL SELL IT'S OVER

>>54316033
They're exposed to the global economy

>>54316283
lmao

>>54315218
>Poverty teaches us to find meaning in our queerness. We are black and we are brown. The antiquated logic of white economists can no longer hold us back.
Ha ha exactly right. I'm black and the amount of people who buy into this logic on the left is staggering. I used to wonder how countries became Venezuela. Now I get it. These people are in for a very rude awakening.

>>54322939
Yes.

You can agree to adjust the swaps week-by-week, marking to market. This is what Burry did. So the position has actual positive or negative cashflow, depending on the market price of the underlying bond.

However even then, Goldman and others refused to pay out at first because they too were on the brink of going under themselves.

>>54322404
>>54322817
Nobody tell them

>>54323191
my based and whitepilled not nigger black African brother

>>54316283
had a good laugh

>>54305726
Don't spreads blow out before companies do?

>>54305995
>>54313940
>>54314085
Europe should be the first to fall.

Oldest and longest financial systems of modern humanity.

America has already tossed it's cookies. The fed is making it dance while people figure out what's going on.

"End of an Era"
>So it appears.

>>54324214
Two more weeks.

No for real this time

>>54323191
Nigger
But you a fren

>>54315218
This is too good to just be a larp.

>>54324214
>Don't spreads blow out before companies do?
I mean yeah, those are investors pricing in an increased risk of the company failing

The entire board of directors of Deutsche Bank flew over my house. Bearish.

>>54315015
It doesn't stop with Deutsche bank sadly. Some big name shocks are coming up shortly. Whether this is a targeted attack or a natural occurrence, it only strengthens the notion that your money is safer when in self custody than any of these central institutions.

>>54305557
oh shit and nothing will happen like always!

>>54326136
But self custody will give you no profits.

I have 35k in dB, not worried, it's a shit bank but there's no way the German government would allow retail to lose money

>>54318757
it was shareholders or bondholders. if i had to guess, big shareholders = mostly white and old money, big bondholders = mostly brown, global south new money
i could be wrong but that's what my schizo intuition tells me, also that this is all a controlled demolition and we're watching a show because all the world's a stage. buy xrp before it's too late because it is The Standard.

>>54318757

>>54326545
WTH is this newfag showing his emptiness on my post? Making around 19% APR for stables on a platform like SpoolFi doesn't sound like "no profits" to me.

>>54313548
https://ripple.com/insights/on-demand-liquidity-spans-worldwide/

>>54326810
Do you mean that or you're just shit posting? or stables? Gotta be kidding me.

So it's too late to buy puts on banks, but what can I buy puts on dated a couple years out? Will the S&P fall? That little nigger has been stable as a rock. Can tech (SOXL, QQQ) fall any more than it already has? Will commodities be affected? Fuck, I feel like it's still early to buy some puts I have no idea in what.

>>54327018
A simple dyor would have answered all your questions but I guess being a channer means you also have to be dumb. Those APRs are basically because the smart vaults are incentivized; that's why they're sustainable.

>>54326136
Nothing ever happens... until one day everything happens just like Lehman

Does anyone else has a bad feeling about this?Too much silence from the regulators lately.

>>54322315
That's not the point. The bond holders were the bag holders, as was anyone who bought their stocks. They will bail those banks out with investor money, and the normies won't be crying tears for you, because you're just another millionaire investor in their mind.

>>54326719
Deposits are secured up to 100k even if they go belly up

>>54305744
>Too big to fail
Anon, it's Germany. Their entire existence is just to prop up the dollar.

>>54326787
the fuck is this picture

>>54326063
>Some big name shocks
Like who?

>>54305815
Yeah I'm sure the handful of pajeets and broke crypto retards here are enough to affect the price action of these mega banks you stupid fuck

>>54325276

>>54305597
dont worry j pow has got this one.

>bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttttt

>>54305557
Deutsche Bank ist doing fine, nigger

>>54328171
but what if in 2008 the fed just bbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttt whatever amount of money lehman needed to stay solvent purely on credit provided by a new federal reserve and treasury “tools”?

>>54320796
Fed will bail it out

>>54306247
big brain post

>>54333690

>>54305870
>(((bloomberg)))
every single time

>>54314085
FUNDS ARE SICHER

>>54314085
UH OH

OPEN SHORTS

>>54322817
The swiss trust the Greens over FINMA and SVP?
So they are retarded after all.

>>54314085
>>54314231
the gme-put bags are getting too heavy for banks.
wagmi

>>54334744
kek why do gme baggies have to make everything about themselves

>>54334897
Emotion. They're emotion driven or they wouldn't have fallen for the gme trap to begin with.

You have one day

>>54335252
Until what?

>>54336534
Beutsche Dank: “Fnuds are safu”

>>54335252
hes bullish on banks

>>54333682
He really will be forced to print on behalf of Europe. Via swap lines.

>>54332395
Read it again

>>54331254
a hypersigil for a better future that started when i posted it, feel free to add your energy to it if you'd like. it turns the word "entelechy" (old greek for "achievement of potential," ie humanity's potential) into a picture of a comfy rural living situation

>>54338227
This is too big brained for me

Jp morgan is next. Buy Puts.

>>54334417
how do i short stocks? i only know crypto

>>54327018
Glowniggers babbling to more Jewish Jewish glowniggers

>>54338352
Who's your broker?

>>54305557
>DEUTSCHE BANK IS NOT CREDIT SUISSE
>DEUTSCHE BANK IS NOT CREDIT SUISSE