/biz/ - Business & Finance

The fat fuck has made a dangerous assumption. that the downturn and roadblocks are due to external forces, and not influenced by his own decisions.
He also assumes it will resolve itself.
This is why he chooses to ignore Schmidts advice.
It's why they didnt even notice a problem for so fucking long till the same community that revered them started constantly shitting on them.

Simple steps to lock in the success and lead he has, and also a simple strategy he has been following to slowly let it dissolve.

For those accusing manipulators or CZ for nipping price action in the bud. You think a sensible strategy from Sergey is to bend over and take it like he did with NEXO?
You think that chink would be able to do this if they had a strategic buyback and just happened to do it at convenient times?
If there was a strong token burn narrative going?

>>54280444
Fudding chainlink now that they’re trying to reach out to developers so they use the software is making the marketing team go overdrive mode to make up for the bad reputation being caused by anons. Sad, but that’s what chainlink gets for not being more communicative to holders last bullrun and not pumping the price. If they had done so, the current holders would be rich and anons newly acquired business contacts would spread positive sentiment about the project due to word of mouth

Anyways, I’ll keep fudding. The Sergay politically incorrect deepfakes will continue until link is $100 per token

>>54280444
how much LINK did this ad cost?

>>54280537

Exactly.
The token holders,and OGs may not be share holders. they have 0 control or say, which is perfect for Sergey, and admittedly, not a bad thing.
However it doesnt mean he has no investors to please. bagholders are funding everything, and in the end, they are all speculators. keep them happy at a minimum, otherwise say goodbye to funding and hello to emergency VC cock sucking.

>>54280567
they do it for free, can you believe it?

>>54280608
I do it for free because i have massive financial interest in the success of Chainlink, and dont believe it is in my financial well-being to let Sergey continue to make poor decisions when I can make my voice heard and force some change, which, evidently, is working.
Perhaps it is not in your financial well-being to have the project improve and pump, so you defend it as is?

>>54280608
Good thing is that FUD from disgruntled holders doesn’t cost a penny, they’ll publicly shit on the project out of spite. Most bagholders probably don’t even hold link any longer, they just hate the protect and seethe fuels the FUD.

If I was Sergay this is a position I’d hate to be in. Imagine losing possible ESG partnerships because disgruntled bagholders make racist memes out of spite and your project’s fans are known to shit up the lives of anyone related to it (Simeon, Jessica the pornstar, Rory the cuck, etc.)

This could’ve been prevented by a pump to $100. Very sad

>token burn
Retard.

buy a fucking ad

>>54280689
>oh dear there is a really strong oppressive narrative that "sergey betray" is happening, meaning, the "team" dumps non stop. this is quite a problem.
>not only that, but there is another strong meme narrative that "the token isn't needed". how can we overcome this? our funding is in trouble here if the community(speculators) move on.

The answer is some token burn mechanic, even if temporary. we all know it doesnt even have to have a real effect, its just the fucking narrative destroyer of "team dump, token not needed".

>>54280444
Funny how the cultists on this board tell fudders to shut up and have sex. Meanwhile the fudders lowered yhe staking lock up term from 24 to 12 months due to complaining lmao. And now chainlink releases this blogpost. B b but fudder bulgarian shut up!!!

>>54280711
>Token burn

Retard. Literal pajeet tier 2 week timeline outlook.

Kys

>>54280773
Even eth had token burn you melt.
They have an excess of tokens for development, eventually something nerds to be done with them.

I agree they have been improving. Long way to go still. However, no smart team would burn capital they can use to grow the network. That's brainless tier

bump for a reasonable thread

>>54280830
>Appeal to authority
Retard.

>>54280444
That's a lovely word salad, but the thing is, nobody gives a shit about your shitcoin anymore.

>>54280444
Holyshit too long, just buy an ad

>>54280933
saging these digits

>>54280830
Of course eth has a token burn you fucking retard. Eth doesn't have a capped supply.

>>54280942
lol the irony of a linkie actually saying this, ignoring the fact that the entire shilling thesis revolves around appeal to authority
>muh Eric Schmidt!
>muh gazzilion faang employees!
>you really think you know better than the brightest minds of our generation, such as Ari Juels
lmao

>>54280711
you just invalidated your whole thread you fucking dumbass

>>54280649
>ESG partnerships
that's the last thing anyone with plans for the future wants. ESG means go woke go broke.

>just burn the tokens and buyback bro!
incredible riveting tokenomics bro, no wonder you're the head of finance of your jeet village

>>54280444
>>54280467
>>54280495
checked
you're right but fucking stupid for proposing a token burn or buyback.

>>54282618

Thats why i ignored that faggot

>>54282706
They got themselves into this hole by relentlessly dumping on holders and letting the token not needed meme narratives both set in.

Now they have to do something drastic to reset them

>>54282772
they need to stop subsidising the network. burning tokens will instantly make everyone think its a shit coin newfag

>token burn
post hand.

>>54280444
i propose chainlink labs buy ads instead of paying people to spam here. wasn't that eric schmidt's advice?

>>54280444
Your idea of leading a productive life is whining on 4channel and then pretending it's making a difference.

How have you not offed yourself years ago?
checked though

>>54282929
The fact that the Chainlink Labs employees browse and monitor this board on a regular basis helps to OP's points.

Anons unrealized power is that they are the shadow CMOs

>>54282783
>they need to stop subsidising the network
BTC and ETH mining are subsidized too, you know.
Only a small part is actually paid by users in the form of transaction fees.
It's pretty much the same with Chainlink.

Check your double standard.

>>54282991
holy delusion over here

>>54280444
DRNS FAGGOT BUT NICE DIGITS

>>54280444
Trips.

I'll give you that we wouldn't have gotten the quarterly report had it not been for the constant complaints, but the industry wasn't ready yet for Chainlink to go into Tokenomics 2.0. There wouldn't have been any demand for the security Chainlink would have provided with staking.

They're in a good position now at least because of their charitable act of bootstrapping the industry with pricefeeds for free, everyone is waiting on them for their next set of features where they can charge hand over fist for as they've already proven their tech will provide opportunities for 100x in revenue.

all those niggers that can't read more than 3 lines of text, baffling

>>54282996
eth and btc are to different protocols. since you want to compare the three link is not decentralized since nodes are still kyc you mutt

>>54283075
>link is not decentralized
lol but BTC is?

>The beatings will continue until morale improves.

>>54283088
>hurr durr i dumby durr hurrr
>one protocol needs you kyc and send id technical exp and be freinds with sergey
>one you can just run mine

you're stupid

>>54283116
You need to be freinds with Sergey to be part of his contracts.
Anyone can make custom DONs as well, albeit limited due to the current mainnet features.

So for both BTC and Link, the vast majority of the system is "centralized", with a fundament of decentralization.
Same with ETH obviously.

>>54280537
This is the way. I don’t have time to shill or build on Chainlink while I’m wageslaving. He ensured his biggest potential developer marketing tool (us) can’t do our fucking jobs and now no longer want to. Pump the price to $50+ again you fat piece of shit and I’ll change my tune. Make right your wrong, and I will forgive you. All shall repent.

>>54280573
>>54280537
>>54283195
>Sergey isn't pleasing bagholders

You only say that because of the price, not because of what Sergey is doing.

>>54283014
Even if they dont browse here, twitter faggots do and they post their screencaps and get all their ideas from here.

>>54282783
Listen, im not actually saying they need to send 50m tokens to vitalik or burn them. Im just saying they need to start thinking along those lines of getting the narrative back away from “le token dump, le 90% subsidise, le token not needed”.
However they propose it, fine. They need not even follow up much. It doesnt take much to get a narrative going whether it is true or not.
The fat fuck has been lucky as anons created a strong positive narrative for him for years. He has destroyed it and now those same people are not able to provide it for him again without HIM managing things and kindling a fire.
The only reason that absolute failure of a CMO Adelyn lasted so long in that role was because the community did all the fucking work for her

>>54280573 #
>>54280537 #
>>54283195 #
>hurrrr holders only fud because of price action

The fud was just as bad when Link’s price action trounced the entire market for years.
You’re not fooling anyone.

>>54283228
>>54283267
Kys cucks. You’re either cucks or work at CLL either way get the fuck out of this thread this is for people who understand it takes action to create change. And we are going to teach you that, the hard way if must be.

>>54283267
Back then the fud was
>russian json parser
>cup of coffee price lock, read white paper
>/ourcoin/ pasta

It was jovial. Now its genuine angry nigger tier by some unarticulated retards, and fiery criticism and want for improvement by some jaded oldfags who still hold and want it to succeed.

You better get out of the cult mindset anon. We got staking lockup from 24 to 12 months at the snap of a finger(which means it wasnt a hard action on their part nor necessary) die to calling them out for being so out of touch.

It needs to continue and arguably, at this point, some strong competition needs to emerge to kick the fat fucks ass in to gear and get them back to A game to crush them.

>>54283267
The fud back then was just anons joking around. Now it’s legitimate criticism which you obviously can’t comprehend through your thick skull

>>54280444
Great post and Ive been saying this since last year. Thank fuck yoi guys have awoken. Im all over them on twitter. There MUST be accountability

>>54283347
This. You have to thank the “fudders” for the team bringing down the staking lock up to 12 months. Really makes you think why it was so easy for them to change it.

>>54280608
Fuck outta here you sycophant, the men are talking

I don't know how Sergey can think 'this is the year' every year when he never releases a product.

>>54283347
Back then the fud was
>russian json parser
>cup of coffee price lock, read white paper
>/ourcoin/ pasta
Lol no, back then the fud was “fake partnerships”, “haha the compound/counbase open oracle kills Chainlink, TNN, etc.

All spammed to high heaven.

>>54282618
Lol exactly. Also Ari Juels is a fucking nobody who fell for Covid. This is the “mad genius” theyre all simping for? Pathetic

I don't care if it goes up if it's a Jewish trick meant to enslave me. It should crash and burn just like the banks do. You're a cuck if you support this shit.

Imo people wouldn’t be so mad over the lack of progress if sergey didn’t dump this much tokens. Meanwhile has raised BILLIONS (!!) and the only finished features are price feeds/vfr/keepers and staking v0.1 which isn’t staking but just a lockup contract that will airdrop tokens. It’s just insane. And he has the nerve to tell people to “stay positive” lmao. There is nobody I hate more in crypto than Sergey

>>54283411
>t. 2020 newfag

Kys

>>54283357

Schmidt is a GREAT example of the utter arrogance and failure of their marketing and investor management.

They got him live at smartcon, i’ll give them points for that because it was a good idea.
However. Schmidt is an advisor. Nobody cares. How the FUCK can that happen? An Advisory position is as close to a fucking CEO you’ll get from the man, because he is not gonna be employed and he is clearly not interested in being the CEO. Everyone should be fucking aware of this.
Sergey should be calling this man up for advice as often as he physically can till Schmidt tells him to cool it.
Instead? We have arrogant Sergey not really taking what Schmidt says to heart.
“Zoom will kill you”, but Sergey doesnt want to get out of his burger cave. God knows what else in private he has ignored. Almost nobody can be an amazing businessman(ceo) technician, and visionary but Sergey thinks so, and he thinks he is yet makes a fundamental flaw of nit realising his investors are and import resource to manage and he should be delighted all he as to do is communicate and appease them a little while they have no real power.

The Schmidt situation really highlights some of the crappy management at Chainlink

>>54280467
Link has actually outperformed every coin in the bearmarket. Thats right it dumped the LEAST.

>>54283471
I’m talking about mid-2018 to mid-2020.
These are the years when Link consistently outperformed the market, and the fud was extremely pervasive during this time. Especially after the Google Cloud thing in mid-2019. The “muh fake partnership” spam was so egregious that eventually we had literal Google employees and Bloomberg claiming Google was a “fake partnership”.

>>54283253
>anons created a positive narrative for years
Actually not true. We’ve called him Fatman, and a gay pregnant Muslim. As a matter of fact, anons have probably shit on him more than anyone else. Why? Because it’s quite clear that no one has a long term vision for blockchain and crypto like he does considering the magnitude of the technology they’re developing. This isn’t just some shitcoin dapp that inflates to kingdom come and needs token burns to keep everyone interested.

>>54283565
Exactly

>>54280444
sergey isn't even intelligent, he is a midwit that biz made out to be some mad genius autist that he isn't. move on or buy an ad.

>>54283500
The problem has always been Sergey, from the beginning. It’s nice he’s enthusiastic about smartcontracts/chainlink but clearly he is just incompetent. Here we have perhaps one of the best CEOs of the 21st century talking to him and he just flat out ignores him. It made me seethe so hard seeing that

>>54283500
>>54283587
How did he ignore Schmidt?
By not claiming Chainlink is the best solution out there?
Sergey's been saying this for years before Schmidt ever mentioned Chainlink.

>>54280444
A 5-10% tax on node transactions by burning the supply would help.
They should copy ETH's deflationary model.
This would create a forced buying pressure on the network from node operators who would only be able to dump 90% of their payment.

>>54283587
Nah, cannot shit on Sergey that much. He got us here and its just plain foolish to discount what we have and he has built entirely. He just has his flaws like anyone.
Schmidt is a fucking rare combo of a man who was a technician and got to managerial role though that and had a gift for business too. Sergey certainly has vision, he is good at seeing the forest, the ultra long term implications, and he has some ability to gain some clients etc(i mean Swift, Schmidt etc) however he just has flaws and maybe just a bad blind spot for some areas and unfortunately one has really come to haunt him now. Lets face it, Adelyn was a complete and utter failure as a general CMO, that didn’t help either.
Sergey took for granted the community and narratives we built for him while he quietly got some initial traction. Adelyn basically did nothing, but now that fire has burnt out from neglect and he has been continuously acting like things are the same and he just needs to keep quietly working and the community will built strong positive narrative. He has reached a scaling wall, and one with the investors too.
The ignoring of Schmidt is very concerning though. It also just shows how they as said, relied on the community to do all the work for them. Thats why barely anyone knows or cares Schmidt is on board because by then tue community was already jaded.

>>54280444
checked my linkies stay super stinky while staking

>>54283622
by not getting off of zoom for starters you retarded CL advocate
at least next time don't post with the same format you use on twitter and it won't be THAT obvious you're one of them (either CLG or Crypto oracle)

>>54283555
>>54283622
Checked, literally no point in engaging with these retards. Their whole argument boils down to
>pump the price by buying back tokens or burning them because I’m upset

>>54283734
they most certainly do anon. They most certainly do.

>>54283889
>not getting off of zoom
source?

>at least next time don't post with the same format you use on twitter and it won't be THAT obvious you're one of them (either CLG or Crypto oracle)
I'm not on twitter. You fuddies have some weird obsession with twitter.

>>54283555
Checked and factual.

>>54283909
>Their whole argument boils down to
>>pump the price by buying back tokens or burning them because I’m upset
Isn't it hilarious lmao

>>54283942
>source

Eric schmidt you fucking ape. Or is that the wrong source?

Holy shit this thread is filled with absolute fucking seething losers.

>>54283909
Chad critic
>gets staking lock up reduced to 12 months from 24
>makes Sergey “start thinking about token economics”
>gets a quarterly report created and a fucking update on CCIP finally created

Virgin cultist
>bagholds
>likes it and simps about it

>>54283942
>I'm not on twitter guys, I just happen to use the same format and the same exact talking points of the most prominent community advocates
sure bro
>source??
what the fuck do you mean "source" did you even watch SmartCon? or do you imply CL employees actually have to show up in office now? because afaik every job position is offered REMOTELY

>literal pajeet tier whinning "why team not do something about price!"
>please sers do the needful in burn the tokens dears!!
the ABSOLUTE state of fudfags kek

>>54283961
>Sergey should've listened to Schmidt when he said to get off zoom
>source that he hasn't listened?
>the source is Schmidt telling him to get off zoom
kek

>>54283980
So no source.
You literally have no idea whether Sergey actually limited zoom calls or not, but you've been crying about it for MONTHS.

>>54280737
>Meanwhile the fudders lowered yhe staking lock up term from 24 to 12 months due to complaining lmao.
No they didn't lmao that was due to the community feedback. When someone says fudder they either mean the paid bulgajeets who are now gone or the 5-6 different mentally ill freaks like Michael the Chink and pic related that astroturf this board every day

>>54284005
>doubles down on his retardation
https://chainlinklabs.com/jobs
here's your source bro
>Remote - Full-time

>>54284002
Continue to play bagholder bingo while those with a brain criticise Chainlink while you start to benefit from the changes caused by it.

Literally Sergey cock riders

>>54283980
This thread reads just like XRP or GME threads so there’s no point arguing unfortunately .

>>54284010

>they are fudders when i dont like them
>they are fellow sergey cock riders when they make things good happen.

Cretin. Nobody is talking about currynigger and that porn addicted freak. Those people are mentally ill freaks and do not critisise, they just spam their mentally ill schwab pictures.
Many fudders are also frustrated holders who have valid criticism, and they have caused direct improvement

>tfw chainlink = cringelink

>>54284010
“The fudders” is the community feedback you dumb fuck. As mentioned above, imagine simping for the guy destroying your investment. Cuckold faggot. You no balls and youre mad other guys do. Youre the protoptypical modern day man…probably cant even bench your own weight

>>54284030
All Schmidt said jokingly was to have "some in-person meetings" as part of a running joke about assassination contracts.
Imagine spinning a big narrative around an off-hand joke and spamming it obsessively for all these months.

>>54284200

He said “zoom will kill you”. “No more zoom”

>>54284238
>He said “zoom will kill you”
And the "kill" part was the extension to the assassination smart contracts joke.

>>54280537
based, you're not alone. For as long as he keeps blatantly dumping on us and doing diversity hires, I'll keep fudding. Better no link than woke link.

>>54284200
>>54284262
nice gaslighting attempt, twitterfaggot
>h-h-how do you know that Sergey didn't follow his advice??
>w-w-well actually he meant something else guise!!
no more (You)s from me, it's obvious you're here to derail
fuck off back to your twitter threads and your TVE shitposting

>>54284262

You must be as autistic as sergey not to realise he is being serious while charismatic. he had a fucking audience.
Jesus christ anon. Stop riding sergeys dick. Hes only human

>>54284266
>I'd rather kill my investment than profit off my enemies
lmao

>>54284288
Schmidt said to have more in-person meetings, for all you know he increased them by 1000%

>>54284298
Not saying there wasn't a kernel of truth in there, and for all we know he did follow his advice.

And even if it wasn't part of a literal assassination joke, it's so weird that you've been obsessing over this zoom comment so hard.

>>54284320
>its so weird careful watching someone who is CEO of something you are heavily invested in interacting with Eric Schmidt and analysing how they seem to not follow up on it

You are the biggest simp i have seen so far, and do indeed reek of twitter and a 800 LINK portfolio

Stop. Riding. Sergeys. Cock.

>>54284320
it is physically impossible to have "more in-person meetings" when the entire company runs on zoom, with people being employed from all over the fucking world, you retarded shill
just take the L and and pivot to shilling the
>"this was a 5-10 year old hold from the beginning"
narrative, you might dupe some newfaggot retards to buy your bags

>>54284405
>>54284413
You fuddies have been trying to spin Eric Schmidt negatively ever since he first mentioned Chainlink.
Guess what: it's not going to happen. Eric Schmidt is a huge deal. Cope with it.

>>54284444
It’d be nice if Sergey, and the Chainlink team treated it as a big deal as it is wouldn’t it? Rather than casual disregard and leaving it up to the community to manage it and spread the word of his arrival.
You reek of the problem. You can continue to suck sergeys nuts. Meanwhile “fudders” have forced some noticeable changes and improvements.

>>54284444
>loses the argument
>proceeds to move the goalposts to Mars
>huuurrrrr fuddies saying schmidt bad!
thanks for conceding, happy shilling anon

>>54284505
>Meanwhile “fudders” have forced some noticeable changes and improvements
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54284505
>>54284523
>Eric Schmidt is a good thing, BUUUTTTTT if you look at it THIS way then actually it's bad

You tried.

>>54284559

>be sergey
>eric schmit becomes advisor
>woah
>disregard his advice
>isnt it great having Schmidt on board!?

Please do not post your trite about “what disregard?” Again. Anyone with a brain can see it and what was plainly said.
I bet Schmidt is wondering why Sergey isnt calling him up as much as possible

>>54284505
>It’d be nice if Sergey, and the Chainlink team treated it as a big deal as it is wouldn’t it?
He spoke at smartcon. What do you want him to do? Sing and dance about chainlink?

>>54284625
You're talking about an off-hand joke Schmidt made.
And you have no idea to what extent Sergey increased in-person meetings.

You're not well in the head.

>>54284676
Judging from their interactions at smartcon, I’d imagine they talked once at length before that at most.
Schmidt treated the entire conference like a nursery for obvious reason.
Sergey was not taking his advice much as we can see, seeing as they probably had 2 meetings in one year, its not s stretch to say thats the pace.

Anyways, the situation with schmidt is but a small symptom anyway. Dont like how this thread is so derailed on that once aspect. The key issue is how they handle their investors and stop being so out of touch, which, due to all the complaints we are slowly seeing.

>>54284771
You're writing all this shit about a five-second Zoom joke.

>>54284505
Personally, I think having Eric Schmidt featured on the Chainlink Tiktok channel dancing around to the latest viral pop hit with the Chainlink logo bouncing around like the early 2000’s DVD screensaver would be great! They’re clearly misusing him.

>>54283374
Was it not node OPs that complained about the 2 year lockup? I doubt twitter fudders in the replies were the main driving force

>>54284829
>I doubt twitter fudders in the replies were the main driving force
After all these years with all the radio silence, the years of waiting for mainnet, staking, etc. it's pretty clear Chainlink does literally nothing based on twitter comments lmao

>>54284444
-90%.... it's a "secret" right?

>>54284636
if by talk you mean emasculated the CEO and made it appear they had never previously even talked, then yeah... And what has come of this relationship? Point to something tangible. Because from my view, things have only gone downhill since

>>54284824
The sad thing is it’d do more for the price than anything sergey has pulled off lately

>>54284771
>The key issue is how they handle their investors
No, it really isn't.
For instance: you claimed Chainlink "left it up to the community" to spread the news about Eric Schmidt. However, the reality is that Chainlink immediately hired him after he namedropped Chainlink and shilled him out of every orifice.

The issue is how "investors" like you handle Chainlink.
Chainlink hires probably one of the top 3 most impactful CEOs in human history, and then spergs like you latch onto a five-second joke to turn his very involvement into a negative.

>>54284955
>made it appear they had never previously even talked
Except Schmidt literally reference prior conversations with Sergey lmao

>>54284996
>it’d do more for the price than anything sergey has pulled off lately
You mean like partnering with Vodafone, Coinbase, Vodafone?

>>54280689
>>54280773
this kek
fucking nulinkers

>>54283500
chainlink marketing was so bad that people thought the hiding strategy was being used kek

>>54284996
>it’d do more for the price than anything sergey has pulled off lately
You mean like partnering with Vodafone, Coinbase, PwC?

>>54280567
based and meanwhile ponzimarines will wait on ccip to flop same time next year. They say link will moon out of nowhere as it bleeds sats for years now. Partnerships were a lie, smartcon was a joke, new tech is always delayed. HR roasties paid 400k/yr to do nothing. Linkpool rugged and sergey hires the rugger to the team, what happened to all the linkpool shillers, absolute radio silence, but i mean people like me and unc were warning you idiots after it go found out that mat beale the confounder of a ponzi token ontop of a ponzi token was a coked out retard who immediately dump his entire linkpool stack moments after being terminated. Moab rugged to zero after sergeys scrubbed tweet, chainlink funds managed by khater a literal pornwhore. What the fuck was king bigmax thinking kek? Oh thats right, quantitative eating kek! Adelyn failed at marketing. Celsius partnership was cataclysmic, didn't anyone ever listen to the podcast with flannelman and mashinsky? Sergey was shilling celsius like there was no tomorrow and guess what celsius rugged, took everything and ran just like the plan was from the start. Sergey even had SBF put on shilling how great a guy he was topkek. Notice a pattern here? Sergey shills scams they dump and he shills another scam and they rug yet again. The psyop was from the start to shill this to biz to keep his own personal dumps afloat. Now why was biz targeted, well sergey is jewish and hates all the antisemites here so obviously he would want to fuck over anyone here he can, look at how many jews he's partnered with and exitscammed, and the ponzimarines here won't notice any type of pattern whatsoever, but if that same pattern is being deployed en masse in a shrewd way with muh secret coin that will skyrocket because of fintech usecase heres some breadcrumbs then the ponzimarines will gladly take a swan dive off the rooftops to bag up on more useless tokens that have been cratering for years. ICO prices eoy

>>54280444
checked. but is token price at $1500 yet so I can think about selling my staking rewards and retire?
If answer is no wake me up wen

>>54285001
Whatever your interpretation of events is, despite one of the most bullish string of events since mid 2021, what do we have to show for it? That is a failure. Adelyn was fired, right after Smartcon/Sibos. That should give you a hint that even Sergey himself realises changes must be made.
They even made a tiktok, so suck on thwt faggots. Apparently sergey does indeed believe getting Eric Schmidt to dance on camera will help

>>54285151
>despite one of the most bullish string of events since mid 2021, what do we have to show for it?
I know what happened to the price.

The problem is you're trying to blame Sergey for it.

>>54285118
That was rich. I even fell for that for a while till Schmidt literally went on air with Sergey and was telling him to be more boisterous. Can’t believe people were latching on to that after still

>>54285166
Yes. When its clear as fuck someone is messing with your funding you fight back instead of bending over and letting that chink fuck your bigmac hole wholesale.
Fucking retard. It was the same with NEXO and that ginger fucking reaction instead of fucking suing them to send a message to any other fuck that wants to try.
Stop riding sergeys cock. He’s allowing this. There are a number of things he could do to fight back but doesnt. He’s now slowly getting hated on enough to notice and we may see it

>>54285246
>you fight back
Against unknown BTC whales?
At the risk of being deemed a security?

>>54283500
Schmidt ran circles around kingbigmac at that smartcon, I only tuned in for a split second but he spilled spaghetti all over the place, schmidt could give zero fucks about the projects success according to my insiders, he was merely interested in the AI use cases. He has no price speculations and hasn’t dropped even a cent of his billions into shatlink. Why would he? There is little to no upside potential. Which is why it’s hilarious to watch as deluded retards on here speculate 1k eoy year after year with while down 90% from ath. Pic related, sergeys dad. Holders of this shit token thought they were guaranteed lambos 5 years after ico, guess who got the lambo, thats right sergeys father after countless dumps.

>>54284200
dude wtf are you talking about

>>54285269
Doing something about NEXO back then instead of “dropping it as they did an internal investigation” would not have had any effect on the SEC. It is just a symptom of the problem with Sergey.

He is also overly petrified of the SEC and it may even be what is also attracting(along with his pussy reaction to NEXO in 2020) whoever is doing it to do it so brazenly. Even Schmidt told him to fucking man up a bit over that.

>>54285398
>muh nexo
lmao the fuck outta here; Nexo never had the wherewithall to dump Bitcoin like that for years on end.

>>54285151
>Adelyn was fired, right after Smartcon/Sibos.
Cant even argue without making things up. iTs aSsuMeD sHe wAs fIrEd

Good thread. While I don't necessarily agree with a token burn, I pretty much agree with the rest of the OP. I'm becoming more and more confident that Chainlink/Sergey will need to have its Google moment bring on strong leader to take the reins at Chainlink. I'm losing faith in Sergey's skills as a business leader. I like Sergey's vision and thinking for a world with smart contracts, but I just have a lot of doubts on his abilities to run Chainlink and turn his ideas into a reality. Something that's become quite apparent over time is Sergey's utter lack of charisma. I think early on most of us thought there was something endearing about his autistic quirks and all, but the fireside chat with Schmidt, and his recent appearance on the CLG faggot podcast really highlighted just how bad it is. He's not a good public speaker. He's not good at selling these ideas. Only /biz/ autists can understand and appreciate the nuances of what he wants to do. Everyone else just sees a weird, fat guy who wears the same dumb shirt.

But let's handwave Sergey's soft skills and look more firmly at the results he's delivered. Chainlink has a real problem of announcing things, and then never taking them to production. For most of Chainlink's existence I don't think there's really been a real sense of pressure and urgency to really light a fire up their ass to start delivering things more frequently. They always, always handwave the amount of time they take with "we prioritize security above everything" which is honestly starting to become a real bullshit, copout excuse. There's absolutely no way their staking v0.1 contract was a year's worth of development (i.e. going off the 2022 "staking and CCIP will be released this year" announcement.

>>54285269
>Against unknown BTC whales?
no, you should obviously bent over and play dead
>muh unknown whales
>implying sergey did something for "known" manipulators such as NEXO
kek
>At the risk of being deemed a security?
why does this risk only apply to LINK and not ETH or BTC? you compared them to LINK yourself that's why I'm asking
>>54285423
wait a minute, you yourself pushed this narrative about NEXO and Zeus Capital for years, you're pivoting again now? lmao
>inb4 that wasn't me!!
you're posting style and your talking points have been the same since 2020 when you first started posting here, so shut the fuck up with your endless pilpul bullshit

>>54280537
>The Sergay politically incorrect deepfakes
kek. post some

>>54285522
>why does this risk only apply to LINK and not ETH or BTC?
When did ETH and BTC have to fight price suppression?

>>54285246
>>54285398
I will never not be mad when the NEXO thing blew up, people found the receipts that connected NEXO to Zeus Capital with absolute certainty and Rory the cuckold addresses it by saying something like
>NEXO is still a valued partner with Chainlink. We will definitely do an internal review.
And then radio silence. Absolute cucks. I really do think they've shown a lot of weakness which has made them the laughing stock of crypto. Everyone knows Chainlink is run by cucks who are too scared to fight back. Whether it's some Bulgarians or regulators.
>>54285438
Utterly delusional and completely out of touch with how executive level positions work. No one ever gets fired in senior leadership roles, it reflects poorly on the company to publicly fire senior leadership. Instead, if a company needs to get rid of someone in senior leadership who isn't performing they "move into a new, exciting opportunity!"

>>54285645
>Utterly delusional and completely out of touch with how executive level positions work. No one ever gets fired in senior leadership roles, it reflects poorly on the company to publicly fire senior leadership. Instead, if a company needs to get rid of someone in senior leadership who isn't performing they "move into a new, exciting opportunity!"
Still no proof. You dont work for chainlink.

>>54285520
My worry is that he's going to bungle the partnership with SWIFT because the work on CCIP is going so slow
Swift just release an article that layed out their blockchain program and there's no mention of Chainlink anywhere.

>>54285520
I agree with this. The thing that has made me lose faith in Sergey is that he insists on running the company on Zoom. It show a clear lapse of judgement and the fact that he keeps doing it even after having it pointed out to him is concerning. I actually hate that he is doing that.

>>54285718
>The thing that has made me lose faith in Sergey is that he insists on running the company on Zoom
Yes, the guy who partnered with Vodafone, Coinbase, PwC in just the past month is ruining his entire company by having Zoom meetings.

This is just satire, isn't it?

>>54285718
This is not to say I don't respect Sergey, he has achieved a lot already. I just want him to understand that no one would fault him for stepping down as CEO. He has to ask himself how he is to achieve his vision, and if appointing a new CEO is the best answer, then so be it.

>>54285744
Stop gaslighting us. Who do you think you're helping. Chainlink is an amazing product, but their under delivery on promises is driving holders rightfully insane.

>>54285798
>their under delivery on promises
But you weren't talking about that, you were talking about zoom meetings kek

>>54285718
Yep. Schmidt was 100% right when he said Zoom will kill you. I've worked in remote companies that don't even do very interesting work and it's crazy how inefficient and slow everything goes. I cannot even imagine how painful it must be to do what Chainlink is doing (i.e. they're making a lot of shit that hasn't been done before). Communication would be absolutely vital when developing these groundbreaking ideas and having that all done remotely AND across timezones seems like an absolute nightmare.
>>54285744
Explain very carefully the value that's being delivered in each of these "partnerships" and explain why they're nothing more than just canned PR responses. The only one that has any kind of substance is Coinbase/Base.
>>54285764
Agreed, absolutely no shame in it. It's more painful if he continues floundering when he's completely out of his depth.

It's over bros, LINK is not new tech, a hidden gem, or a coming 10-100x. LINK is mainstream and is in Twitter roasties bios. It’s a corporate entity now, so Sergey has to dump another 750k LINK to hire talent managers and diversity officers. LINK hasn’t been the biz token for over 2 years now. Just sell anons... i-i-iit’s over. It was a good ride.

>>54285692
That is nothing to do with blockchain. your infograph is just how the swift network operates.

literally ZERO use of DLT.

Chainlink will only be used to link that network, to a blockchain. Or all the blockchains. thats it.

>>54285692
This has nothing to do with their ongoing project with Chainlink

https://www.swift.com/news-events/news/swift-successfully-trials-new-solution-remove-frictions-corporate-actions

>>54285166
Sure yeah they dump btc everytime some good chainlink news comes out, now that is actual peak schizo delusion. The real reason shitlink can’t pump is because sergey is an inept ceo who can’t convey a message clearly. He’s a fraud, liar and con artist. He’s a philosophy major from nyu. I’ll just keep taunting you ponzimarines as you post low energy delusions about how shitlink is being suppressed by perfectly timed btc dumps. It pumped in 2018-2020 because it had somewhat decent speculative value and roadmaps/fake partnerships. Btc was dumping then, why did shitlink not dump with it? Oh thats right its dumping now after all the ogs sold and moved on, the lies were exposed, fake partnerships brought to light, tech wasn’t delivered and bigmacking got fatter. So what happens when btc pumps and shitlink continues to die off, just like has been happening for the past couple of weeks, what’s your cope then? Laughably you’ll just keep saying shitlink is suppressed by some divine coordinated btc dumps as it bleeds out another 90% to touch ICO prices. Just think about that for a second kek!

>>54285829
>Explain very carefully the value that's being delivered in each of these "partnerships"
Here goes: Vodafone, Coinbase, and PwC.

>>54285848
you:
>the Swift/Link bogeyman isn't real, he can't hurt me!

the Swift/Link bogeyman:

>>54285981
read my post again. then apologise.

>>54286052
You're ignoring that Swift is at the heart of interconnecting blockchain-based stablecoins, bonds, etc. Which is a future virtually all banks and financial institutions are speeding towards.

>>54286085
Swift will not be used for CBDC.

FEDnow, the stepping stone for CBDC in the US uses RTP clearing house.

https://www.theclearinghouse.org/payment-systems/rtp

Zero blockchain involvement.

Some other countries are doing "pilots". At least 15 years away from CBDC launch.

>>54286085
>30pbtid

And these retards call fudders mentally ill lmao

>>54286155
>Swift will not be used for CBDC.
You can stop posting now.

Swift is the standard established by banks, for banks. For EVERYTHING.

>>54286168
>if you talk about your own holding you're mentally ill

>>54286172
Yes.

What CDBC are they going to facilitate the transfer of?

>>54286207
>30 posts of deflecting and moving goalposts from genuine constructive criticism

Back to twitter or telegram retard

>>54283075
decentralized != non-kyc
>>54284505
fudders have achieved nothing but force Chainlink to sell more tokens to fund marketing strategies to wash away the negative image

all I'm getting from this thread are poorfags complaining about the price, an OG would never complain about price because it doesn't fucking matter today does it, adoption is coming
>MuH cOmMuNiTy Is DoInG tHe MaRkEtInG
how naive are the poorfags on this board, jesus christ, none of you are needed, chainlink does not need you, it will be a success without any of your money or input
you shouldn't have the opportunity to have LINK, I'm sorry you've bought into the immediate gratification that was promised from crypto or meme threads, but this is a long haul hold
LINK is literally for holders that never intend to sell or go back to fiat

>>54286235
>just leave okay?
fudders are getting blown the fuck out.

>>54286230
All of them lol

>>54286235
How many more ids are you gonna use lmao

>>54286288
>reply against all “fud” posts with “you bought the top” “kek” “shut up”

You sure showed them. This part of the community (the cultists) are the most destructive side of it.

>>54286305
But none exist.

>>54286249
Sergey literally said he wants the community to contribute through development and awareness retard

>g g g give me a source for that!!!

Sergeys latest podcast

>>54286322
>cultist
You sure showed us.

>>54286322
>This part of the community (the cultists) are the most destructive side of it.
You sure it's not the faggots trying to spin the Schmidt involvement as a negative for Chainlink?

>>54286350
>he wants the community to contribute through development and awareness
Saying "Swift won't be used for CBDCs" isn't part of that. Obviously

>>54286373
>>54286383

These threads always get derailed by retards like you. Anons with brains want to come together and discuss the state of things and 50pbtid’s show up calling everyone newfags, saying “kek”, “you bought the top”.

>>54286427
>come together and discuss the state of things

Yeah, by trying to spin literally everything good about Chainlink into a negative.

>>54286409
Look mate, I hold more chainlink then you.

Going around saying swift is going to be used for all CBDC is hopium of the highest order. Its not even used by all countries.

CBDC are 15 years out. at least. Thats a long time.

Swift is big news for Link. has been for years. But this shit isn't going to do what you think for years yet.

this is realism, not fud.

36pbtid desperately screaming
>BE POSITIVE GUYS STOP WITH THE FUD
while offering ZERO rebuttals to any and all valid criticism
just ignore the retard and stop giving him attention, he's just a paid twitterfag

>>54286249
>w-we’re never selling ever it was meant to be that way
topkek theres no way you actually believed the never selling larp joke right? You’re actually trying to use that in cahoots with your other delusions are you?
>w-we don’t care about price
topkek you’re right i guess, why would you even care when shitlink goes to zero when you’re never selling ever.
The absolute state of schizomarines!

>>54286465
You're trying to spin the Swift connection into a negative.
Imagine trying to do this.

>>54286475
>valid criticism
Trying to spin Eric Schmidt into a negative isn't "valid criticism", anon.

>>54286427
>Eric schimdt working for chainlink is bad okay?
Right

>>54286513
>>54286524

Honestly it’s a good thing sentiment has shifted. Right now perhaps 5% of link holders are like you two, the rest are fed up with what is happening. And I hold a lot more link than you.

>>54286513
Its not a fucking negative. Swift POC is amazing. Its been in the works for 6 years.

You are huffing hopium. Chainlink has shit loads of amazing tech you can shill about.

The first step of the swift chainlink hopium you should be shilling, will be BNY mellon using the swift network + CCIP to access Defi. AS THEY FUCKING SPOKE ABOUT @ SMARTCON.

spewing bullshit about CBDCs is literally shizo. And i am the MANIAC

>>54286475
The thing also people like this guy get to have a ride for free if link does somehow succeed again, while offering nothing to the project in return.

>>54286586
CBDCs are one of the main things for which Swift will require cross-chain.
It's one example.

>>54286565
>the rest are fed up with what is happening
You mean the partnerships with Vodafone, Coinbase, PwC just this past month?

Damn y’all linkies really got mentally fucked from this bear market

Your threads read like some bitter schizos manifesto

>>54286475
Based, he can’t respond because he’s an actual paid shill shilling a deaad shit token. Damage controlling to no avail. He keeps focusing schmidt like has a majority shareholder. He talked with sergey a couple times and has absolutely zero stake in chainlinks success despite having money to throw in. Eric owes precisely zero shitlink tokens. He won’t reply to anything coherent. He’ll dodge, deflect and damage control some more. And then to damage control shit price action he’ll just tell you its being suppressed by btc dumps. The absolute fucking state of shitlink paid shills.

>>54286639
>a deaad shit token
So why are you here?

>>54286565
>the rest are fed up with what is happening.
>link is not pumping from all the good news. I hate link now.

>>54286617
Fuck me. I give up. You should have bought XRP. the baggies are more your type.

>>54286663
I'm a schizo because I think Swift will handle a lot of CBDCs?

>>54286701
You are banking chainlinks success on something they have no control over.

schizo.

>>54286720
I thought the discussion was about swift handling CBDCs or not?

>>54286650
To taunt and gloat at retards like you who are paid chainlink labs shills failing to properly shill your shit token to this board for years on end. Scroll up and try to coherently debunk anything i said. You can’t because you’re a low energy shill trying to con other anons into a ponzi scheme. Better yet, check the archives, me and unc called the top, called lower tops thereafter at $30 and then we called the dumps back to $5-6. Guess what? All our calls were impeccably timed and we hit on every single call. We told anons to short this shit. Anons who listened won big time. I am now here again at this current shit price to make yet another impeccable call. ICO prices eoy. Load up the shorts.

>>54286720
Chainlink has no control over the adoption of CBDCs, so that means CBDCs are not a hugely bullish usecase anymore?
What the fuck are you even saying anymore, jesus christ.

>>54286760
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't read any of that.

>>54286740
Discussion was about you shilling for something that doesn't yet exist. And is at least 15 years away.

>>54286760
>To taunt and gloat at retards like you who are paid chainlink labs shills failing to properly shill your shit token to this board for years on end.
Sounds like too much free time.

>>54286781
>shilling for something that doesn't yet exist
That's what speculation is lmao

>>54286796
Then buy XRP.

Personally, i think 8 billion data points posted onchain is more impressive then your retard hopium.

>>54286816
All investments revolve around future profits from something that doesn't yet exist.

>>54285744
You mean PWC Germany right, because trying to imply that the partnership is with PWC global is a lie due to the way Big4 audit firms are structured as partnerships rather than limited liability companies.

>>54286867
>You mean PWC Germany right
CHOO CHOO here comes the cope train

The price will not go up until long threads like this stop filling the board and its replaced with apathy.

>>54286596
Thats just it. All the original spoonfeeders left are now largely criticising LINK and spoonfeeding what needs to change instead. Meanwhile the same people who got spoonfed are not allowing the force feedings this time because they still wanna ride sergeys cock.
Idgaf. These threads and complaints are working and need to continue

>>54286888
Say it, say that the Chainlink partnership is with PWC Global. I want to see you outright lie.

>>54286836
>what is a p/e ratio

That is not true. But whatever.

You keep pumping out the hopium to the retards who will throw it back in your face when it doesn't materialise in 12 months. Keep feeding the trolls.

>>54286779
Well try and debunk it then, you can’t and you wont. Your shill team lead is telling you that you fucked this thread sideways and to leave immediately. Let the lead try to properly damage control a bit.
>>54286789
With what i have liquid i could buy the entirety of all ponzimarine shit token holders combined thrice over. I do whatever I want to do. In between my flights I enjoy debunking shitlink threads, smugly reminding you lot of jokes you could have shorted when the big lads were shorting. At the end of the day though, chainlink is useless, all partnerships are either fake, with imminent exitscams or outright bought out with vaporeare shitlink tokens. Which reminds me I have a flight to catch soon.

>>54286919
Say it, say that PwC Germany isn't PwC. I want to see you outright lie.

>>54286921
>That is not true.
It literally is.
If you're investing, you're betting on a future situation that is not yet reality.

>>54285848
Look in the middle of the picture where it says "blockchain"

>>54286910
Just stop visiting biz and twitter, it will really help getting a good perspective on this. Biz is filled with people without a future, such as the anon with 50 posts screeching endlessly. Who hopefully won't play a role at all in this project succeeding or failing. Definitely know some big link holders (500k+) who haven't sold but are getting tired of the slow progress aswell. The potential of LInk still is the biggest in crypto, however it all depends on whether they can pull it off. In the end you would have to make your own decision whether it's worth it to take this chance.

another thread filled by a schizo talking to himself

>>54286949
fucking kek

>>54286945
PWC Germany isn't PWC Global.
Now tell me that Chainlink's partnership is with PWC Global. Say the lie. Do it pussy.

>>54286975
Show me where I said PwC global.
I said PwC.

>>54286949
If symbioate is a blockchain.

XRP is needed for ripple to function.

Centralised ledger is not a blockchain.

>>54283976
Genuinely good point HAHA.

>>54285682
You'd have to be a retard to believe that after she sat in front of me at Smartcon as a Chief marketing officer, that she volunteered to take a lesser role. Again, you have to be an enormous delusional retard to think she'd ask to step aside

>>54287023
>goal post has been moved

>>54287011
>PWC is a global professional services brand of firms, operating as partnerships under the PwC brand
Does Chainlink have a partnership with PWC Global or PWC Germany?

>>54280537

i have 45 links...is that enough?

>>54287119
You're really not taking this news well, are you?

>>54287135
You can't answer the question though, it's pretty basic. I mean, surely you understand how the operations of a Big4 audit firm works right......and that a partnership with PWC Germany isn't a partnership with PWC globally because each location is a separate limited liability partnership that shares a brand. You DID know this right? Right?

>>54287053
> that she volunteered to take a lesser role.
Is this what she told you?

>>54287169
>a partnership with PWC Germany isn't a partnership with PWC global
I said PwC, not PwC global.

How much longer are you going to seethe over this itt?

>>54280444
Observing this shitcoin atm and to me it looks like marines try to trade their coin. Would be shame if it just keeps going up and they don't have a chance to buy lower. Imagine that you are someone who held one coin last bullrun and it didn't move at all while everything else went up, after that bear market started and it dropped to zero with everything else. Last year or so it's been crabbing here at the bottom and you FINALLY start trading it and then it doesn't go back down. It exits the range. Imagine the smell.

>>54287201
A.k.a you didn't know how the Big4 works, thanks for confirming.

Who wants to bet Arbitrum token will settle at a higher marketcap than LINK when the token is literally, 100% not needed

>>54287306
Holy cope

>>54287433
hahaha get shit on nerd, you got exposed again as a liar. Must be torture for you to get trounced over and over, but I enjoy shattering your narratives with facts.

>>54287468
>you got exposed again as a liar
But anon, I never said PwC "global".
There's no such thing even.

>>54287468
you're gay lol

>>54287500
Exactly, there is no such thing as PWC global since every member firm is independent. So saying that Chainlink has a partnership with "PWC" is wrong since they don't have a partnership with all the individual member firms nor do they have a partnership with PricewaterhouseCoopers International Limited which facilitates coordination between member firms. They only have a partnership with PWC Germany, a single member firm.
Thanks for playing, hope you learned something today.
>>54287501
Indeed, I was pounding your asshole last night.

Almost time for the product update that "fudders" made happen. Will see you all back here after the call.

>>54287695
>They only have a partnership with PWC
"only" he says kek

he's too self absorbed to give up leadership, but that's exactly what he should do' stay on as an advisor and for market sentiment, but let someone with more business acumen handle the business. he's squandering the potential, but everyone around him seems too afraid to tell him

>>54287982
ROFL fucking Indians and neets have the stupidest opinions

Just shut the fuck up with your 1k link stacks

I have over 17,000 and I’m sitting comfy still. Just sell for BTC you bitter bitches

>>54280444
sold a few mins ago gonna buy in tomorrow morning after asian market destroys the price like usual

>>54285744
>”partnered with big 4 firm”
>-90%

>>54286249
Stockholm folks. Youre beyond help. Sorry man.

Also, so the billions they raised isnt enough because of frog poster on mongolian weaving board? Nice delusion

>>54287201
Just admit you were wrong tho man. Not that it matters anyway bc Link partnerships are like assholes….

Its not a partnership with PWC in its entirety, its just the German branch. Its ok to admit that and stop being a snake. It was the same w Tmobile/systems. Complete nothingburger

>>54288839
I said PwC, and the other faggot thought I was talking about "PwC global", which doesn't even exist.
It was hilarious.

>>54288888
Giga checked
>noooo you can’t just say PwC you need to specify PwC Germany otherwise you’re a lying snake!!!

>>54288888
Checked. FUD fags obliterated.

>>54280444
A token burn is the antithesis to what this project is trying to do.
You’re retarded.

>>54288888
>>54289017
>>54289089
Kek look at how they continue to lie
>HUUUGGGEEE Partnership guys, PWC!!
Are they partnered with PWC Australia?
>well, no.....but
What about PWC UK?
>n-no, b-but it d-doesn't......
PWC France?
>STOP IT! STOP IT! When I say PWC I really just mean one member firm! STOP CALLING ME OUT
Linkies in a nutshell, have to lie about everything. Nothingburger call btw, congrats.

>>54284200
Holy shit imagine being this autistic.

>>54280444
“The goal to strive for is a poor government but a rich people.”

- Andrew Johnson (17th president of the United States of America)

>>54289234
Who are PWC Australia using? And UK and France? Is it Doge? xrp? I suppose it must be eh?
Thanx for the hot advice

>>54289346
there was a reason it was the greatest country in the world at one point. Man we got fucked being born when we did. Another cool fact his nickname was Old Hickory. Badass

>>54289569
"using" for what? What does an accounting firm need an altcoin for again? Not asking about blockchain tech but an actual altcoin...

Holy fuck you guys went all out in this thread kek. But guess what? IM STILL NEVER FUCKING SELLING HAHAHAHA

>>54289965
Its sad really.

>>54289657
"Old Hickory" was Jackson.

>>54280537
>Anyways, I’ll keep fudding. The Sergay politically incorrect deepfakes will continue until link is $100 per token
yep i think a lot of people got the same plan, rather to burn it all to the ground to spit sergay
my eth bags are big enough anyways

>>54289234
Tell us more about "PwC global", anon.
Is it in the room with us right now?

>>54280537
>The Sergay politically incorrect deepfakes
also the fat naked man eating a burger memes are good for a laugh on here
but if we really want to hit he team we should make deepfakes to imply sergay as a person and link as a project is a money raising/laundering front for wagner, he is russian by birth in in todays political narrative this is the most efficient fud we can make that would actually convince companies to keep a wide distance from the fat man

>>54288888
Holy checked. Just so you know, I lurk and I enjoyed all your posts.