/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54220206
Ok now show the linkbtc chart

>>54220206
kyspa scam?

>>54220217

>>54220206
>violently jumps
something Sergey could never do.

>>54220223
kek, my bags are literally 50% LINK 40% Kaspa (and 10% shitcoin)

>>54220226
>log
Chainshitter are so weak

>>54220251

Suck ze bug.
Now

>>54220251
>now post the linkbtc chart
>*posts the chart*
>fudder literally busts into tears

>>54220206
that sexy face just says it all

>>54220244
Actually your holdings are 100% shitcoins

>>54220267

You were meant to post the Seethe/Link chart

OOOOOOOOOO LETS GOOOOOOO

>>54220302
this one?

>>54220244
at least 40% of your stack is pumping....

>>54220349
>>54220302
Kek

>>54220226
Based zoomed out anon

>>54220206
>Submissively fall 15 ranks in 2 years (730 days)

>>54220631

>2 years to lose 15 ranks
>1 day to gain 4

Bros…. We’re gonna be rank 1 by friday

>>54220688
checked

What the fuck was that?

god i fucking hate you linkniggers just shut the fuck up for 1 fucking day holy shit you fucking cockroaches

>>54220755
you know /biz/ has filters, right newfag? You literally choose the content you see here.

I've been listening to this song non-stop on repeat since it was released by anon like an absolute MANIAC. We are living in the new age of Chainlink kino.

https://voca.ro/1bpNjNHjKys9

>>54220755
>complains about link on link board

Nolinkers are pathetic

>>54220771
i dont care about your faggot filters i dont care about your fucking shitcoin shut the fuck up you piece of filth

>>54220791
you can literally make it so you never see a chainlink thread again, just by clicking like 10 buttons lmao

>>54220206
What was the make it stack again?
I was entertaining the idea of buying 100 link just in case. But I guess the suicide stack was 1000 right?

>>54220791
dilate

>>54221170
1000 link is suicide stack and 10000 link is make it stack
But really it all depends on your time preference since those numbers are based on LINK hitting 1k per token.

With just a million you at least won't feel suicidal when link moons and with 10 million you will be comfy.

>>54220791

>i hate link
>i want to filter the threads and never see it or interact with it
>11 pbtid

But an ad

>>54220251
explai to me why log is not good

>>54222024

Because it makes it look less bad.
Log good when it make asset look more bad tho.

Its basically a sign of a retard. Log is not useful in currency markets because moves are not logarithmic. They are small. Most retail TA evolved from forex since the 1990. You get a sizable number of retards who parrot thing without understanding it

In an asset like crypto, the moves are extremely volatile and very large. Its a logarithmic asset, it needs a log chart. Anyone else telling you otherwise is brown

>>54220556
I missed on kaspa, it made a x100 since january and it also has alot of volume (so it's not a shitcoin rug). Where do you guys get these coins before they pump?

>>54222024
Its ruins fudder narrative

>>54220206
Oh wow, ranks. How many ranks do I need for a house?

>>54220206
https://twitter.com/BuildOnBase/status/1637802913895530496

Token actually needed? WHAT IS THIS BOBO BROS?

>>54220206

>>54222050
every chart looks good on the log, that's why nobody can utilize it, log is only good for monthly or yearly charts
you're a midwit it seems

>>54222206
>testnet

>>54220217
>>54220226
Without fail, every time Link goes up even a few percent, some asshole will say "hurr durr what about the btc chart"
No one ever says that about any other asset, yet link has to be judged by a million different shitty standards set by a billion different assholes.
Funny how no one seems to think that's odd

>>54223260
are you retarded? no one ever says that about other shitcoins because nobody fucking cares, this board holds primarily link
I guarantee you that nobody makes 10 threads about their shitcoin pumping on a 3% move either

>>54222206
It’s a testnet. And I’m still using chainlink pricwfeeds for free on Goerli (ie don’t even need testnet tokens)

Give me one good reason link shouldn’t be at rank 5 right now when you compare it to the other shitcoins ahead of it.

>>54223342
no hype, jaded community, failure to deliver on whitepaper 1.0 features 6 years after its release
in that order

>>54223342
The coins in the top 10-15 have more retail interest hence being ranked above Link.

>>54223342
Functionally obsolete due to better competitors in the market.

>>54223369
>more retail interest
but why?

I feel like a black bull in a (white) sorority house!

>>54223260
i dont want to hold dollars you retard

>>54223425
because the community was operating for years under the premise that link was kingmade and "retail not needed"

>>54223455
rent free, nigger. post more so I know you're a seething faggot

>>54223463
it took you a while
where's the mass quoting pasta?

>>54222206
Any chance base has a token at some point? Aggrieved after my wallet was one of the ones that didn't get the arb airdrop despite well over a year of Txs.

>>54223359
>no hype, jaded community,
>community was operating for years under the premise that link was kingmade and "retail not needed"
so it was the link communities fault all along?

>>54223513
The community is to be blamed for every shortcoming of chainlink now according to CLG and the Crytpo oracle. It was your fault CCIP and staking weren't delivered on time. Sergey is punishing you for FUDding, he's like the Old Testament G*d.

>>54223513
no, the team led them to believe this with slight hints and winks at "enterprise grade partners and clients" and muh SWIFT 2016 connection and muh Schwab book name dropping Link and muh total lack of retail marketing, cause "link is a white-label product guise, it doesn't need marketing to normies1"
like an other anon said
>The entire company deals in hypotheticals and larps as a faang company without the sales

>>54223570
>It was your fault CCIP and staking weren't delivered on time
Staking was (you just didnt like the 11 month wait ) and CCIP was clearly delayed for external issues.

>>54223425
This is why
>> >>54223463

Insane cult behavior incapable of taking in any constructive criticism that will help the project forward

>>54223614
it was delayed due to all of the bridge hacks and they wanted to spend more time securing it.

>>54223614
>announce staking on Jan 1st
>deliver a half assed version lacking every critical feature outlined in both whitepapers on December 21st
whatever helps you sleep at night anon

>>54223635
>>54223615
>>54223613
Guys go outside and touch grass.

>>54223703
astonishing retort, thank you

>>54223701
have you even bothered to look at the contract

>>54223709
>December 21st
???

>>54223737
december 6th
you're right btw, this changes everything, I apologize

>>54223570
why didn't this fat fuck confronted their partner nexo when they were paying pajeets and bulgarians to fud. instead he now tries to blame us after not delivering on his own deadlines

>>54223720
jesus fucking christ there we go again with the army of the apologists
>every feature is there bro, just wait!
@ me again when they release ssl, slashing reputation and so on

>>54223762
Oh right you remember now. How much did you stake?

Do you remember the exact day when ETH and ADA released staking too?

>>54223703
sergey said this himself at hackathon.

>>54223793
how about you wait instead of acting like a spoiled child

>>54223804
15% of my stack and I deeply regret it
no, because I was never interested on their staking services?
>>54223839
thanks crypto oracle

>>54223863
>15% of my stack and I deeply regret it
>no, because I was never interested on their staking services?
Oh but youre interested in chainlinks though, yet regret staking. How fucking stupid are you?

>>54223886
yes I was naive enough to believe this was the god protocol and not just another shitcoin
I love this new tactic the shills have adopted, deflect any kind of criticism by attacking the critics
kek
how much are they paying you to spread positivity anon?

>>54223909
I love when off-boarders think we can't smell them.

>>54223793
Staking 1.0 won't be financially feasible until the network generates enough revenue to pay out stakers. It does not do that yet. Its as simple as that. Claiming node operators are mostly profitable doesn't explain the problem, the issue is most of the uses for link nodes exist on ethereum, which is not profitable, so even if "most nodes" are, most of the revenue is not.

One of three things need to happen, either eth needs to bend the knee wrt fast lane oracle programs (hasn't happened yet), the majority of transactions need to take place on an L2 (hasn't happened yet, though L2's are picking up speed, they aren't normalfag friendly enough yet), or there needs to be a new source of revenue/monetization discovered (potentially CCIP). Until one of those three things happens, staking 1.0 cannot happen, because there is not enough link being bought on the market to afford to reward stakers, and if you subsidize staking rewards, then you give up on the entire point of staking and the entire project becomes unsustainable.

All that being said, relying on retail to hold the bags until staking is feasible isn't a great strategy either, but the alternative is you were never allowed to buy link up until now and it was 100% controlled by insiders. You were never going to be handed an easy win, it was this or nothing.

>>54223934
>(((we)))
I've been here for 12 years nigger

>>54223941
>the network generates enough revenue
and who's fault is that anon? what the fuck have they been doing for 6 years? you just admitted it yourself, despite all these integrations, price feeds, vrf, SWIFT pocs or whatever the fuck else, nothing brings traffic to the network, regardless of staking implementation
the team has fucked up big and only hopeless bagholders say otherwise

>>54223909
>buy an ad
>Chainlink had funds in SVB
>under da sea
>CLG mass shooter
>fix the advertising department!
>Schmidt's girlfriend
Its just discord narrative after discord narrative. Just admit you're the same as us, 120-130 IQ midwit who can't accept the reality of waging and desperately clinging to hope that there is a way out. There's nobody left to fud, and newfags can't afford a meaningful (1k+) stack of link anymore. If you yourself are a newfag who jumped in 2021 you only have yourself to blame, Elon on SNL was a signal to not touch crypto for at least a year.

>>54224016
thanks again, crypto oracle
now fuck off back to twitter

>>54222050
thank you for this explaination.
Where will the money that pumps it past 55£ comes from, given there are a lot of sellers at 55$?

>dump tokens
>retards buy
simple as

>>54224016
>newfags can't afford a meaningful (1k+) stack of link anymore
I think most newfags can afford 7k lmao. A "meaningful" stack would probably be in the range of 10-30k which might allow you to make it by 2030.

>>54223990
>and who's fault is that anon?
The adoption of crypto. Chainlink is at least attempting to speed that process along, but ultimately its a macro problem that involves the entire space.

>>54224074
Holy fuck are you in a bubble. Go outside, ask the average person how much is in their savings or retirement (most don't have a retirement account). I promise you not more than 1 in 20 will have over 5 thousand dollars. 1k link costs 7k dollars right now.

Why do you think BSC shitcoins get shilled so relentlessly here? You think people with money touch that shit with a 10 foot pole? Its poorfags trying to play musical chairs with each other to see if they can hit 10 grand without waging.

>>54220206
Still #19 on live coin watch. A long way from #18 and barely ahead of wrapped BTC, the project one of last year's hires made before signing on to LINK. It'd need to be about $13 while the rest of the market sat one out to get to #15.

>>54224077
>the adoption of crypto
yes, cause this fabled "adoption of crypto" is a formless, figure-less concept existing in a vacuum, completely detached from the people who work at the fucking industry, pretty much like the "Invisible Hand" of the markets!
lol
>>54224127
>Holy fuck are you in a bubble
the sheer irony in this post is unfathomable

>>54224188
checked even though you didn't check me nigger
>yes, cause this fabled "adoption of crypto" is a formless, figure-less concept existing in a vacuum, completely detached from the people who work at the fucking industry, pretty much like the "Invisible Hand" of the markets!
lol
No its actually really fucking simple, bear market means everyone stops buying crypto, less people use crypto, less people use chainlink. Fucking retard.
>the sheer irony in this post is unfathomable
?
>claims the average person can afford to spend 7 grand on a massively speculative high risk investment during the middle of one of the worst economic climates of the past 15 years
>thinks he isn't in a bubble

>>54224163
Don't think you will see that, but if it does continue to rise ranks, the more likely path will be other alts bleeding sats while link holds. Which frankly is probably the healthier path anyways, this market can't heal with dogecoin and shib with 5-10 billion marketcaps.

>>54224262
chainlink has been on a bear market 2 full years before the actual bear started
even at the peak of mania, link failed to bring traffic to the network
what the fuck are you smoking anon

>>54224262
"adoption" of crypto has or should have nothing to do with market cycles. The fact that you admit that bear markets mean less people use chainlink proves the other anons point, that chainlink is unable to generate value outside of speculative market cycles.

>>54224340
Chainlink has been in a bear market vs btc for one year before the bear started, because it was overvalued relative to the value it brought. That was the price it paid for outpacing the entire market a year before the bullrun started (link started running in 2019 against the entire market). It still managed to accomplish widespread adoption in the space, you literally can't get rid of chainlink now and it has its fingers in everything. That's why you're wasting time posting in a chainlink thread at the bottom of the bear market now, because no matter how much you seethe about your opportunity cost, you know its not going away.
>>54224341
Adoption of crypto has everything to do with market cycles, like it or not, the masses follow and use crypto more when number go up, and ignore it when number go down. What you're really getting at is there should be crypto usecases that are market agnostic, ie swift, dtcc tokenization etc, and obviously everyone wants to see this, but until that happens, chainlink is at the mercy of the rest of the space wrt price action.

>>54224475
>What you're really getting at is there should be crypto usecases that are market agnostic, ie swift, dtcc tokenization etc, and obviously everyone wants to see this
That's correct, and this is in line with Sergey's vision of the project. Can't you admit that now after 6 years when none of this is being halfway close to finished that it's worth having some doubts about the team and the project itself?

>>54224340
Imagine arguing with someone about how shit chainlink is, while you hold and stake link. What kind of retards invests their own money into something he thinks is garbage?

18 PBTID guys.

>>54224475
>because it was overvalued relative to the value it brought
oh so "overvalued" applied to link only huh, everything else was fairly valued at the same time it seems
you literally make zero sense at this point and I can't even understand what you're arguing for anymore
>still managed to accomplish widespread adoption in the space
and that translates to zero value added to the network, how can you be this dense? what the fuck is the point of adoption if it can't be translated to network traffic and value?
>>54224550
unlock my tokens and I'll shut up faggot

>>54224538
Absolutely. Risk vs reward, if there was no risk, there would be no reward. What you want is guarantees that it's all going to happen, and a 100-1000x on your investment. That's fairy tale land bullshit. You can have your 100-1000x if its extremely risky and you doubt yourself everyday that it was all worth it. Or you can have no worries, know its going to happen, and see a 2-5x over 10 years if you're lucky.

>>54224583
>unlock my tokens and I'll shut up faggot

>>54224609
>Or you can have no worries, know its going to happen, and see a 2-5x over 10 years if you're lucky.
>you have no worries
>5x over 10 years if you're lucky
your post literally contradicts itself lmao
>>54224622
>no moar negativity bros, just shut up and BUILD something

>>54224633
So sell the other 85%? B-b-but my 15%.

>>54224538
>6 years when none of this is being halfway close to finished
You have no idea how far along they really are.
>having some doubts about the team and the project itself?
Is anyone really here truly without any doubt? Crypto remains to be entirely speculative at this point.

>>54223941
Makes sense desu, the seethe about chainlink is understandable but like you said adoption in general is pretty shitty. With ETH making no progress fixing the gas problem. But then again what I don't understand is this: Why can giants like Aave/Synthetix etc make millions upon millions of revenue but somehow there is ''friction'' when paying link node operators for the data feeds? Chainlink also has to take this into account, freeloaders and backstabbers (think arbitrum).

>>54224679
>backstabbers (think arbitrum).
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the arbitrum backstab situation? I was never fully convinced it was a betrayal of chainlink

>>54224583
>oh so "overvalued" applied to link only huh, everything else was fairly valued at the same time it seems
No you retard, everything is relative, lots of other shitcoins have crashed tremendously and harder than link in the past year, and it hasn't stopped yet if you're looking at alts lately. Now you could make an argument that link is a good buy at these levels, and attempt to outplay the market. Or you could complain it hasn't happened and sell into the very whales you're seething at that dumped on you last cycle. Personally I don't care what you do.
>and that translates to zero value added to the network, how can you be this dense? what the fuck is the point of adoption if it can't be translated to network traffic and value?
Not zero value, just not the price you see on coingecko. What you're demanding is that it be done already, and that can't happen without more activity on the network. That said, speculative value will ALWAYS outpace true value. What really needs to happen is enough network activity to make staking 1.0 feasible, and that's where the problem comes because the network needs to be profitable where it is most used, and right now it isn't as its most used on ethereum.

>>54224648
>You have no idea how far along they really are.
and no-one else does. That's the issue, they're never open and up front about what they're doing and the fact that Sergey is on podcasts talking about videogames and memes doesn't help things one bit.

>>54224709
Link nodes were supposed to validate arbitrum and Ed has been promoting his platform on smartcon for years and they worked closely apparently. Then all of a sudden they launch their own token and the node validation is never heard from again.

>>54224633
checked
Again you're a retard in a bubble. If I knew of an asset on this planet that I could have a guaranteed 5x over the next decade, I would effectively be retired right now and have no worries, all I'd have to do is shovel all of my networth into that asset and continue to accumulate as much as possible to throw into it. The average person might not have 100k liquid, but they could create it by selling their home, taking out loans etc, and if you knew there was a guaranteed 5x investment out there of course you'd do it. The fact you don't understand this concept leads me to believe you're extremely young and have never invested large sums of money before.

>>54224742
>Link nodes were supposed to validate arbitrum and Ed has been promoting his platform on smartcon for years and they worked closely apparently. Then all of a sudden they launch their own token and the node validation is never heard from again.
Its a governance token, its not used on the network in anyway. That doesn't disprove the article that Ed Felton wrote himself, about chainlink nodes running arb validators.

>>54220206
its still 90% down tho...

>>54224785
Only has to pump 90% to get back then. So whatever.

>>54223342
it doesnt do anything but fetch prices. every "product" they have is a blogpost or a promise

>>54224772
>If I knew of an asset on this planet that I could have a guaranteed 5x over the next decade
Have you heard of bitcoin?

>>54224890
>guaranteed 5x over the next decade
The key word there is guaranteed. This board might agree with that because its 95% neets who think the only way out is crypto, but the average person doesn't. Now that probably makes it a good bet as far as risk vs reward, I'd agree with you, but there's absolutely no guarantees there.

>>54223342
Oh and to answer this, for link to solidify itself over eth killers at the very least, one of three things needs to happen: Either eth needs to decisively win the L1 war such that no other L1's are used (won't/can't happen until shitcoin casino dies permanently or gets phased out), link becomes the 'link' between all other L1's via CCIP and absorbs a portion of all value transacted, or tradfi becomes entwined with crypto via link oracles. Until at least one of these things happens, other L1's can always outpace link via shitcoin casino profits.

>>54223156
Yep. They definitely need a testnet faucer for token that is NOT needed.

>>54225709
Is your life needed?

>>54224729
Dont worry that will be solved when they file form S1 and register as a security. Wait until you guys see their ownership and where your money goes. Theres going to be a revolt…

I guess I just don't understand. After weeks of being turfed by the twitter guys - every swift video from the last seven years - absolute crickets today.

>>54226697
we were scammmed

>>54226697
Anons who said SWIFT was gonna be a nothing burger were probably right sadly

>>54223570
>The community is to be blamed for every shortcoming of chainlink now according to CLG and the Crytpo oracle.
truth

>>54226697
>he fell for the SWIFT meme
you're no different from Rippletards and their meme partnerships

>>54220217
This.

>>54220226
oh yeah?! well post the link/eth chart!!

Schmidt said most of cryptos value needs to be wiped before they moon link.

>>54228977
OH... oh...

>>54226697
thats called a scam

>>54226697

This is just the day the testing phase goes live. No one actually thought anything was going to be announced today.

That being said SWIFT is using LINK and the fact they are going live is moving the needle forward. There is no way to know when anything gets announced.

>>54231439
Nice damage control twitter tranny
buy a fucking ad and fuck off link shill

>>54231466
>buy a fucking ad and fu-----ACKKKK!!

>>54220226
kill yourself fag

>>54231512
Token Not Needed

wow dude, Link went from 10 cents to $50 last bullcycle. The fuck you mean 'another missed run'. That is a 500x.

BTW, we bottomed at $5.30. 500x from there is $2,650. Thinking you better get your Link bag yesterday because it's about to take the fuck off.

>>54231550
>Token Not Ne----ACK!!!