/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54167848
they really have no choice, it's not like raising interest rates and letting banks fail will fix the problem. They fucked everything a long time ago.

The US isn't paying reparations.

It will just be a inflationary depression, without the hyper.

>>54167848
>you know what comes next
:^)

>>54167860
>they really have no choice, it's not like raising interest rates and letting banks fail will fix the problem. They fucked everything a long time ago.

In the event of a collapsing Dollar, the Federal Government would likely announce a debt jubilee to reform and revalue the USD under a new digital format overseen by the Federal Reserve. This CBDC would be the new currency of the realm, phasing out cash in the process in a transition period where BTC and other alternative forms of commerce would have their pinnacle success, but would ultimately fall back into obscurity once the Government makes it impossible to use anything other than this Fed CBDC dollar for commerce and to pay debts as legal tender. It's still unclear whether they would explicitly ban all other forms of cryptocurrency in the US or not thereafter, but maybe they wouldn't have to, rather regulating it out of practicality.

doomniggers btfo for another decade

>>54167848
>THEY CHOSED WEIMAR INFLATION

The Fed always chooses inflation. Inflation is the only option that lets them kick the can a few more inches down the road, all other options have immediate economic and political consequences and are therefore unacceptable as far as the Federal Reserve is concerned..

>>54167872
>The US isn't paying reparations.
Ahm goyim the hohols want their money
>>54167848

>>54167890
>ban
impossible to ban a network of nodes

>>54167890
I have to wonder if people will really accept CBDCs, I know this whole rugpull is to try to get people to use them but are people really going to be that stupid to give over complete control of their money that way? Man I hope not.

>>54167947
if you can't trade Bitcoin for government fiat anymore how many people do you think will still be involved with Bitcoin? The only reason probably 99.9% of people buy Bitcoin is to be able to sell at a later date from government fiat, without that nobody will be buying Bitcoin.

>>54167981
something tells me there won’t be people willing to sell their house for bitcoin like they will gold

>>54167916
They'll allow turbo inflation to happen so they can swoop in and become the "benevolent" saviors once the population is ready to burn down cities over $20 bread loaf prices. Its the same song and dance for all time.

you all know that btc is another way to get your money right?

Yeah you can make money but its another way to get more.

its literally all they are doing

every conspiracy is real but can be boiled down to

>how can we get their money

and no not in the gay scammy loser way

i mean the joo way

think back to the red shield

the only thing safe is silver and gold

the only thing in the future is silver gold and BSV

>>54167981
I buy bitcoin to shelter myself from fiat devaluation

>>54167890
I don't want to use CBDC though.
I want to use cryptocurrencies, the fed just keeps stealing from me via inflation.
While there are only 21m BTC.

>>54167848
>chosed
can you stupid fucking retards at least try

>>54167848
someone explain
m2 didn't changed

>>54167981
ofc at least 70% of people will appreciate the convenience of electronic money just like they currently swipe up a storm with their credit cards & turn autistic for QR codes and shit. This especially falls in line with the Bible, which says Christians will be unable to hire services or trade when they become persecuted
I'll be standing tall with my silver stack, my trading cards, and my ammo

>>54168031
Craig you have to leave this place.

>>54167848
santa is coming bois

Goo time.

>>54167947
It is possible to ban crypto to CBDC's.

>>54167947
This is dumbest shit I've ever read
Thank you

>>54167890
This shit doesn't save you of your debt

>>54167913

Bro shit is going down this summer. Black Americans can no longer afford meat and consumer goods on welfare and ebt. Race riots are starting up again and cities are going to burn.

Back when Floyd died, things were much better for blacks. Now they're a doomed race in a time of hyper inflation and asset appreciation.

>>54168223
Agreed bro. We should give everything to Blacks. whites should pay the bill
whites are responsible for everything bad and Blacks have had to pay for everything in white countries

>>54167875
>Le nazis will just pop up out of nowhere

>>54167981
I wish I shared your hope

>>54167848
worry not, we are still stuck with high interest rates so us noble working everymen who aspire to own a home can nobly take the hit for the poor bankers

>>54167872
They will pay reparations to niggers
If Biden doesn't do it Trump/Kamala/DeSantis will

>>54167848
Are you sure this isn't some trick to dump bitcoin on bagholders. They didn't HAVE to hold bitcoin on their sheets, they're pulling it out of thin air and turning it into fiat as everyone jumps ship.

Literally any possibility could screw us over. When you look at the big picture we're all just gambling and the cards are about to come out.

Conspiracy or not though I think the banks are wrong and bitcoin's use case is too strong. No other country is going to want to buy another countries cbdc, if it is controlled by someone else it is useless. Everyone will have to turn back to bitcoin for an open market to work.

>>54168281
>nazis will just pop up out of nowhere
clearly, you haven't been paying close attention to recent politics (p.s. I'm not defaming either milquetoast US party and its supporters)

>>54168572
I mean, if this is some shill to pay for a UBI and a completely automated industry that still sucks because they will end up with the same power that money brings but they will not need it anymore.

The only people that will have freedom are ones that buy btc under 100k

>>54167848
Total Bearnigger Death

This is the price of letting jews won election
Heck, this is the price letting jews migrate to America in the first place

>>54167848
they always have and always will

>>54167848
>>54167875
>>54168583
No poltard the US isn't becoming the nazis.
>>54168223
>>54168264
>>54168767
>>54167917
Yes poltard we know you're raiding.

>>54167875
Can't wait.

>>54167848
>blacks are finally granted reparations
>5 million dollars to every black person in the country!
>hyperinflation hits
>money is now worthless
Heh, nothing personal, cotton pickers.

>>54168789
cope sweaty

>>54167848
bull trap

Can the Fed raise rates while also expanding the balance sheet?

>>54168789
3 banks got fucked and credit swiss is on the way you fucking retard.
the only ones spamming the catalog with "muh pol" memes are the freaks like you.

>>54168789
Show your nose

>>54168789
time to break out the chuddy spam

>>54168789
Kys

>>54167860
>who is they???
But it would fix the problem. All of the retarded businesses losing access to funds would cause a lot of job loss.
Fed just didn't want to follow through. Nobody nose why.

>>54169111
>Nobody nose why.
checked, truly a mystery for the ages

>>54168789
>why are these people who pay attention to global finance so antisemitic?

>>54167890
How does this change anything you retard. The problem you will face doing this is that everyone else in the world say "fuck the USD etc" and that will be your problem.

>>54168136
Yeah, the most powerful people in the world gained their power by owning a bunch of debt. They're using the self-destructing nature of the monetary system their predecessors created to buy even more debt. I doubt they are going to give up that debt and its power willingly, even after they get CBDCs from it.

Who's stopping the US from making USD obsolete and creating a completely new currency to start from 0?

>>54167848
didn't they choose hyperinflation a long time ago? i mean, this is just the latest tick of that clock, isn't it?

>>54169140
Their only way out with CBDCs is to peg them to a weighted basket of hard assets.

>>54168885
Funny, since that’s the exact opposite of how inflation works.

Reparations would ironically be the best thing to ever happen to the American economy. Cuz blacks know how to spend

>>54169340
Fed will have to compete with Tether and things like it, why they're trying to eliminate all on-ramps off-ramps.

>>54167875
Mass cosplaying?

>>54167848
>we
I hold Bitcoin, nigger. I don't give a fuck what central banker kikes do with their monopoly money.

>>54169455
>königgrätzer marsch intensifies

>>54167848
all you need is bitcoin, you've been told for 13 years, dumb fucks never listen.

the current digital dollar is called BDC and printed by the banks
in order to transition from BDC to C-BDC, fed needs to create a crisis, a financial crisis, a banking crisis
you see big banks are not the proponent of CBDC, why would they give their rights of printing money to central banks? big banks are the enemies of CBDC, thus we can conclude that the fed is not on the side of the banks
fed is popping the asset bubbles, the covid printing was not to save the economy, it was to create a bubble so big it trapped all investors, entire middle class, hedge funds, pension funds and all banks all over the world into the bubble so when the bubble pops no one left to survive and everyone begs for solution in which CBDC is the answer
they try to save bear sterns and then let lehman brothers bankrupt, this 2T theater is so that they can say later "we did all we could do, the old system is not working we must reset and try a new system", they will make a couple movies of this as well just to further convince that all this is natural, no it's 100% manufactured but only big galaxy brain can recognise this whole multi year long plan and see it in it's entirety

also since the world has become or starting to become multi-polar because of the war the USD CBDC won't be the world reserve currency, there will be a neutral one world cryptocurrency developed by BIS to facilitate trades between CBDCs, BIS has been talking about this for several years
they're geniuses, the war not only create multi polar alliances but also creates inflation through supply destruction giving them excuses to raise rates and to pop the bubble, and before the war it was covid to give them excuses to create the bubble in the first place
anyone who are afraid of CBDC are thinking of retail CBDC while I'm talking about wholesale CBDC, this alone proves how much of a dumbfuck you all are
each jurisdiction will have it's own flavor of CBDC, some wholesale some retail some hybrid, if your country get the retail CBDC flavor tide with national ID and implanted chip etc. well then it's your karma

>>54169583
>>54169776
you're retarded

>>54169776
Will the moon be considered a country? And if yes will they be using LUNA or LUNC as their CBDC?

>>54169583
>>54169776
Why post a mall watch?

>>54167848
Peter Schiff was right.

>>54168080
What if you throw a rock at it?

>>54168281
what? according to putin and leftypol, ukraine, germany, poland and NATO in general are the Fourth Reich and needs to be denazified.

Core inflation in EU already mooning

>>54167947
>3 US institutions own THE WHOLE BLOCKCHAN
>glowies knock on their door
>transactions get censored
you get to cope and seethe seeing the value of this shitcoin meltdown as shangai update releases ALL stacked ethereum at market

>>54167848
THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN

>>54167981
>are people really going to be that stupid to give over complete control of their money that way? Man I hope not.
uh, yeah. how do you think the "Federal" Reserve got made in the first place? And the covid shitshow tells us how compliant people are

>>54167848
you're wrong. the same argument was wrong in 2008 and you're wrong now with those people who were wrong then and some of whom are still wrong today.
it isn't here yet. it's coming, but not yet.

>>54168057
it's a graph of the fed balance sheet, which just expanded with good assets. unlike 2008, these will pay their coupon. unlike 2008, the borrowers owe more back to the fed than these coupons pay. and so unlike 2008, this is not (yet) an inflationary spiral.

>>54167860
They really don't have any choices that don't lead to economic disaster, the time for that has passed and this is at most a performative gesture to at least make it appear that they're trying to fix their mess.
This likely isn't the best option as it just confirms that they're really only invested in the prosperity of the donor class who are the ones responsible for this mess in the first place at the expense of society as a whole which is being dragged along for the ride.

>>54167860
>it's not like raising interest rates and letting banks fail will fix the problem
it would, though
it's literally the only way to fix the problem

>>54167981
>I have to wonder if people will really accept CBDCs,
If we've learnt anything from the last few years it's that the majority of people are unthinking automatons whose only wish is to be told what to do by their superiors no matter how dumb and counter-intuitive those orders are.

>I know this whole rugpull is to try to get people to use them but are people really going to be that stupid to give over complete control of their money that way?
I think it's the other way around, CBDC's are an attempt to control the collapsing establishment, I genuinely don't believe that this will work because the people in charge are absolutely incompetent and it is only their endless greed and stupidity that have led them to the current crisis.

>>54167890
None of this is going to happen because it would actually benefit people. Trump is the only president to earnestly propose things that benefit people and carry them out, the rest of them will dangle debt forgiveness for student loans and shit and then pull it away as 40 year olds beg because they're underwater on their mortgage too on top of still owing money on their master's degree.

>>54169442
>Print more money
>It's value diminishes
That's exactly how inflation works dummy

>>54169776
SDRs have been the defacto world currency for quite awhile

>>54168789
>1pbtid

>>54169140
USD still backed by guns bucko. You didn’t forget the gun pointed at every country’s head, did you? Print as many dollars as you want, start using literal Monopoly money if you want. That gun ain’t goin’ nowhere.

>>54171566
>Lost to fuckin goat herders
Really intimidated

Nothing ever happens
Get it through your thick heads

>>54171598
The US isn't good at fighting stateless people. They can go in and install a government through a coup that will bend over for US interests, but if a bunch of people just aren't having it, there's almost nothing they can do. This is why I'm rooting for the NEET class that never returned to work after covid.

>>54171696
I love this cope

>>54171743
Ah yes, when was the last time there was a large scale war between world superpowers? 100 years ago? Never happening again, sorry.

>>54171762
>when was there a bank crash, a "pandemic", a tension between nuclear powers escalating, a monetary crisis, a cost of living and fuel cost crisis, a bombing of a fuel pipe line, a printing of trillions of dollars, etc etc etc

Cope harder fag

>>54171789
Oh right, and society collapsed and we are currently living in some post apocalyptic world with no institutions? Right, thought about as much.

Nothing will eeeeeeveeer happen

>>54171837
>It has to be the way I was told it would heckin happen according to le heckin Netflix adaptation I rented last weekend
Damn that's some serious goalpost moving. Are we even on the field anymore

>>54171981
Okay holler when the collapse starts buddy

>>54171996
the start happened in 2008 (or 1971 or 1913). I mean we're at the point where we're supposed to eat fucking bugs according to elitists. if that isn't a collapse in progress, i don't know what is you gaslighting glowniggerfaggot.

>>54171996
>It has to be the way I imagine it!!!!
>I'd believe it if it were like a heckin movie I watch on my Zogbox in mommies basement

>>54171996
>>54171837
>>54171762
>it's only a happening if 90% of the population dies in a nuclear holocaust
Please kys

>>54169776
its the 4th time ive seen this watch being printed and i come to this board once a month if at all

>>54167875
>bro this is it! it's just like weimar! we'll finally get those jews and finally get laid :^)

>>54172062
so it has happened? why does it feel like nothing happened then? retard

>>54172062
More or less, you being able to afford one less funko pop a month isnt a happening

>>54167848
>CHOSED
Siberian swamp nigger

more important than price is quantity, more important than price of money aka interest rates is quantity of money creation or credit creation
when they stop creating credit because of fear that's when crash happens, valuations go to 0 overnight and money disappear AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAH it's fucking beautiful man

>>54172111
>Goalpost status: the moon

>>54172106
>>54172111
>I live a sheltered life in an ivory tower, so noting is happening. Let them eat cake. I have no concept of how lucky I am at the moment, and don't realise how much shit is going on right now.

>>54172177
Seethe status: 220F

>>54167860
Hello glowie idiot

>>54172202
>Reeeeeeee
>It has to something I saw in a heckin movie or it's literally nothing!

>>54171996
Hyperinflation and automation will leave everyone jobless and priced out of everything. Then our glorious leaders will offer a permanent solution - rent everything in a gig-based economy. Eventually rent gets too high and you'll either starve on the streets or rebel and die in a shootout with police. That's how they depopulate the planet and save it from climate catastrophe (and also become gods). It's all been told here since like 2019, simply follow where ambition of the world's wealthiest leads and you'll figure it out too.

>>54167848
why didn't they just let one fucking bank fail jesus christ. can't let a single long-nose-tribe-member lose money, eh?

>>54172236
Not like a movie, but unless society as a whole starts to break down, it’s not a happening

>>54172189
You are absolutely correct, it happened and is currently happening in Ukraine. Has it happened in the US? Has it happened in literally anywhere else that wasnt already a shithole to begin with?

fucking idiot, go back to collecting boomer rocks and jacking off to survivalism

>>54167875
Imagine being a homosexual who spent his time photoshopping this picture.

>the market goes up
>the fed is holding equities
THE BALANCES THO!!!

>>54172256
its privatization of gains and socialisation of losses, goy!

>>54167981
Yes most people will accept CBDC‘s without question. I think it’s going to go much more smoothly than most people think. Honestly, it’s basically a done deal, in my opinion. The great reset is succeeding and will be completed

I'm gonna say this once because it will likely go bye bye and I'm gonna say it in caps to get your attention.

PALESTINE WAS A PLAYING GROUND FOR HOW ISRAEL WILL USE THE UNITED STATES TO DECLARE WAR ON ALL OF HUMANITY THIS ISN'T A JOKE, UKRAINE IS THEIR SECOND PLAYGROUND THE NEXT IS THE UNITED STATES.

If you don't realize the implications of this statement you are lost.

>>54172248
People aren’t going to fight back to the degree that 4chan thinks. You will have millions of people who are homeless, starving, and desperate who will still be lining up for mRNA injections for fake diseases with no complaint.

>>54171120

Yeah it seems they are entirely reactive now.

>>54172377
Only if they keep the TVs turned on. They can install TVs in Starbucks bathrooms for the junkies to watch.

>>54167848
kill the poors!

>>54167875
Another round of white-on-white brother war?

>>54169776
>12
Post same with 17, then I'll consider serious reply.

>>54172282
has war happened? Is that really the question? yes retard, "the first world" has had wars for as long as it has existed. Do you really think the peace and stability the rich countries have had since WW2 was going to last forever? I reiterate: kys

>>54172569
please learn how to read before posting on the board

>>54172279
>Real communism has never been tr-
***BLAM***
How compelling

>>54172615
Attacking strawmen are we now?

>>54169126
truly

>>54167848
>WEIMAR INFLATION
>>54167860
>>54167875
The Us wont have hyper inflation because we have enough domestic production of food and materials it can offset any crisis. Germany couldnt produce as much because its much smaller, and they had to devalue their currency for reparations payments to the allies. The US doesnt have to pay a foreign nation tons of money for war losses.

>>54167848
I guess we will need strong German leadership again to get out of this

>>54167890
I agree with you, anon.

>>54167947
Pointless for the "use case," see >>54167981

>>54168572
Bitcoin is a minnow to the Fed, derivatives are the whales.

>>54167848
FUCKING NORMIES I FUCKING HATE THOSE FUCKING DRONES. Just buy crypto, they cant inflate that like why are they so retarded, do they really want inflation to kill everything i just dont get it those fucking retards

>>54167848
Trillions must be printed

hell yea i can't wait to be marched towards an authoritarian fear-state that gets obliterated within 15 years

>>54171124
If by "fix" you mean collapse the financial system then yeah sure, hyperinflation will do the same thing just it will take longer to play out.

>>54168008
The whole point with kicking the can is that people don't rightfully blame them for their woes. The time difference between them printing and inflation reappearing is almost entirely gone, it's not that hard for people to put the two together.

>>54173136
what will cause US hyperinflation is also the loss of world reserve currency, the US is able to creative massive amounts of money because of the petrodollar system and the fact that foreign nation needs to produce good to acquire US dollars. This keeps much of the USD supply out of the US, but when that system goes away all those dollars from around the world come right back to the US.

>>54167848
WEIMAR CONDITIONS

>>54168530
sure they will. just like they canceled student loans. you fucking retard

>>54167875

>>54168281
>>54167875
YES

why are chud poster(s) so fragile

>>54167872
>without the hyper.
Hyper arrives with a currency crisis and/or sovereign debt default

>>54167916
Worship the jew god or burn!

>>54167872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmsi-SG-UYs&ab_channel=sani21210

>>54167947
Stupid nigger thinks the government cant control what goes on in their wires

>>54172569
>Do you really think the peace and stability the rich countries have had since WW2 was going to last forever?
It looks like that, we are literally living in the greatest anomaly in human history, historians are already refering to it as ''the great peace''

>>54167947
They're not gonna ban the nodes, they're gonna arrest the people operating them

>>54173136
>they had to devalue their currency for reparations payments to the allies
Retard.

>>54167848
Bullshit. Merely compensates for the collapse in lending.

>>54167947
Your computer is not under your control.

>>54168223
You sound like a melatoninrich person. Nethertheless all those talks about "reparations" are spin doctors trying to comfort a certain part of the population to embrace higher social security payments.

>>54168789
> chud spammers on suicide watch

>>54168264
They've been the slave drivers the longest of all the races long before America existed so it is only fair they go down first

>>54168281
>out of nowhere

we were here the whole time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ee-cHbCI0s

>>54169583
>>54169776
>it was planned all along by super mega genuises

no.

everyone in charge is blinded by their own pride and greed to ever be able plan anything or see the world objectively. our "leaders" are just grabbing what they can by abusing what power they have, just as it has always been. their vices make them fools, but they cant help themselves. there is no master plan or grand strategy, just short sight greed, and petty powers plays. its all chaos.

the only saving grace is that God is in control

>>54172377
you don't need very many to fight back in order to enact change. yes, 90% of people will be doing what you described. the 10% who will be doing the opposite will be the difference maker. imagine 500,000 dedicated, competent, and confident rebels. you could seriously fuck this country so hard they wouldn't know what hit them. we are so incredibly fragile its funny. that's why the propaganda is so relentless.

>>54175182
>God is in control
The Original Cope

>>54172962
>t. Bootlicking nigger worshipping goalpost moving retard

>>54168031
>and BSV
kike crypto?
fuck off Craig

>>54175182
God works through these people, and a single individual or character may not know or is aware that they're part of this grand scheme, that they're doing what God intended them to do
God is what's known as Intelligent Infinity or Infinite Intelligence, genius is the clear channeling of this Infinite Intelligence into the physical realm
so it's this Intelligent Infinity is what i called genius plan, and this whole reset thing is about the change age into the age of aquarius anyway
that being said a bird won't know looking at the screen what it is they're looking at, a certain level of intelligence can grasp more and see the bigger picture that other lower level of intelligence can't so when one is order others see chaos, that's also why there are rich people and poor people

>>54167848
>WEIMAR INFLATION
I'm ballin niggaz

>>54167890
So will they eliminate my mortgage? Oh let me guess, only low income FHA and VA loans will qualify.

>>54175807
When will you anthrosupremacists realise how stupid you really are compared to animals?

You guys think this is bullish, but you forget that assets will go up in dollar value only because the value of the dollar is going down

>>54168136
>newfags actually made and saved this image

>>54168031
>BSV
Jesus anon, way to make some valid points, then obliterate your credibility

>>54168052
I will use BTC and LTC for digital, silver for irl

>>54168031
>BSV paused transactions
kys

>>54175913
i can explain this misconception in details in it involves metaphysical reality
for example, a colony of animals can do intelligent thing but single out a member of the colony then it become confused aka stupid
this is because a colony is 1 intelligent working through multiple physical bodies, the more the soul of the animal evolves tho they become more individual, so a dog is not really a group animal but more individualistic and a dog has higher intelligence than a single bee
humans are even more individualised than mammals, this individualization creates a new arising form of intelligence called intellect or analytical thinking, while animals only have instinctual and intuitive thinking
a pure analytical intellectually minded human may be more stupid than a colony of animals but will never be stupider than a single animal, a human with intellect + instinct + intuition is far more intelligent than an animal colony, this can be considered a demigod or an ascended master, i am of course this type of human
it is this intuition that makes certain people can seem to predict the future accurately, like burry in 2008 for example
i can go on and on, for example where do intuition comes from? they actually come from the future, but it's too long of a topic

>>54171049
>And the covid shitshow tells us how compliant people are
It sure did. About 20 % won't comply

>>54171743
I think he's just been on /pol/ 2 weeks more than you

>>54176087
I love when this guy comes over from /pol/. Thanks for the Dr Richard Werner recommendation. He’s now my favorite economist

50,000 USD per ounce gold when?

>>54176087
Please go on watch poster so we can see how much of a retard you really are

>>54167848
Fuck my savings....

>>54175182
>God is in control
He's not very good at it tho, most of his creations rebel against him, including 3/4 of the "supposedly perfect" angels