/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54155536
Caffeine to get you going, alcohol to wind you down. Rinse & repeat for 20 years and you MIGHT be able to afford a kid before your kidneys/liver give out.

>>54155536
internal dialogue makes it harder/easier depending on the job

>>54155536
I have the same question. I think they turn work into their religion and put 100% of themselves into it. One thing if you run your own business, but idk how you do it if you're just some cog. Teach me anons. I like resting too much.

seriously depends on the job

when I was a gas station wagie 30 hrs felt like an eternity with the rest of my free time being consumed with dreading work

As a tradie nigger when you get into the groove of a project 12-16 hrs will go by like a moment

your results will vary

>>54155536
Being on medications is a big thing now yeah. I seemed to be the missing piece as to why I was always struggling to deal with wagie torture and yet everyone else just put up with it - I was going at it raw whilst they were encased in a misty eyed, heady dose of medications that allow them to disassociate from what is going on.

>>54155594
this, without exception

50 hour a week programming and tech support was absolute hell. I'd sooner suicide than go back to it.

>>54155536
>How do people work 60+ hours a week
Good diet
Good sleep
Jerking off

>>54155536
>How do people work 60+ hour weeks?
See this >>54155735
Sometimes there are wage slaves actually really enjoy their job.
> Unrelated
When I graduated college, the commencement speaker was this harpy roastie who organized the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Her "advice" was to live to work. She loved her job so much she consistently worked 60 hour weeks months through out the year.
I gagged so much. Oh and the bitch is still unmarried.

I dont know..people in EU work usually between 33-36h
some countries still do 40 though.

>>54156193
none of these things would help with the cope of having to work endless amount of hours. As harsh as it may seem working seems like a humiliation

>>54156193
>good diet
>good sleep
You’re almost guaranteed neither of these if you work 60+ hours a week
T. Used to work 60 hour work weeks

>>54155536
I just enjoy the work I am doing and I am paid good money to do it, so most of the time it doesn't really feel like work.

I feel depressed and all i do is trade shitcoins (doge, nftb, vela, gns...) from the comfort of my own room. Life is all about pain and misery.

>>54155536
>>54155536
When I was early 20s, I'm 28 now, I was a banquet server for some rich Jew. When I was pulling 60s during wedding season I woke up alot of mornings heading into work with deep existential dread asking myself why, and there's gotta be more to this thing than just working. Ever since then I instinctually avoid overtime. My boomer father can't comprehend this saying overtime makes it easier to pay the bills
> He's not wrong but.
I believe in a world where you shouldn't have to do that especially when value of labor to income ratio is heavily fucked.
> I work for a manufacturing company that just takes in 300+million in profits last year but I'll be lucky if I make 40k this year.
> Why bother?

>>54156073
Oh no no devbros what happened to muh 2 hours of work at most a day + 3 weeks to fix one bug???

>>54156307
Trading at least makes time feel faster. Working at a store putting shit on shelves means walking around and being busy = time goes by quicker.

You live to work mostly.
If they have free food, that is the clincher.
You go in the morning and stay until midnight.
Free food every day, some places of a shower so you look for those places to work.
No need to pay for food or water anymore.
You take a sit at work and you live mostly there as well.
You only go to your house or rent place to sleep.
Internet wifi is free as well at work.

>>54155536
They exist for nothing but swinging a hammer. Even if I don’t have any hobbies no way in hell I ever working over 40 hours. The key for me is to get the highest paying job I can for the least amount of work and so far I’m sitting pretty comfortably making more than my friends or family

Imagine being a middle to lower class family and bringing your offspring into this dogshit world knowing full well they'll slave away at a job they'll hate, go through school which will teach them nothing, exposing them to all the societal garbage we deal with today and only doing it because "lifes worth experiencing!" despite 80% of 'experiences' your kind can afford today being eating mcdonalds every now and then and watching endless tiktok trash

>>54156320
>focusing in on getting some hacky workaround to not shit the bed
>almost have it figured out
>get phone call
>have to support some server deployment a retard did a year ago
>finally resolve it
>get back to hacky workaround
>can't remember what i was just about to figure out
>get back into the zone
>infrastructure at another site goes down, sr admin left no notes about how anything works
>put out that fire
>made no progress on main thing
You have no clue, anon. It was a dumpster fire made of other dumpster fires.

>>54156307
Try trading trad stocks. You'll feel a little better then.

>>54156219
Full time is 37 here in Scandinavia.

>>54156214
>nooooo women can't live and work for themselves
get fucked, chud

>>54155536
Nowadays adderall, in the old days cocaine.

>>54155660
This, but I would say it's more a cornerstone of their personality than a religion, though I guess religion could also be part of a personality.

>>54155536
They’re not actually working the entire 60 hours. They’re fucking around and staring at their phones for 40 of those hours. I work 50, I work in corporate banking at a bulge bracket and really don’t do shit besides knocking out my work early in the day and making it look like I’m doing something the rest of the day.

>>54155536
Most people in my work survived off drugs, from caffeine to cocaine. I never touched either, I mostly did it for the money and kept going through discipline until my body finally couldn't keep up any more and I crashed with burnout.

>>54156193
>Good sleep
>implying time for sleep

>>54156468
>t genetic dead end
KYS foid

>>54155536
Unironically sleeping at work.

>>54155594
>MIGHT be able to afford a kid
Duh gubment be pain my ass to have kids. Every one of these peanuthead nuccas made me mo cream.

>>54155536
some people have fulfilling jobs, some people are very extroverted with no internal process to get worn out by the drudgery (normies), some people are just incredibly durable

>>54155536
An understanding of the human condition throughout history. Struggle is good for you.

>>54157684
Nonwhites only. FP is the way of the white man.

>>54155536
I been 60hours a week for the last year. It was closer to 80 during December. Lots of go pills prescribed to many of those delivering your mail.

>>54156384
we'll have to imagine it since nobody is having kids anymore

best i can do is 25. Take it or leave it. I don't need this shit so bad you know

>>54157783
You a cpa?

>>54155536
probably on drugs. most i've ever worked is between 55 and 60 and it was hell. your free time is basically sitting on the couch and zoning out for 2-3 hours before going to bed and hoping you wake up refreshed 7-8 hours later (you never do.)

>>54156468
Cause an all time high number of women on SSRI’s is such a good thing for everybody

>>54157863
PTF now but was a CCA until very recently.

>>54156258
>>54156647
I used to work 60 hours a week.
I did get good sleep. The only problem is the diet, but I shove tons of spices and medicinal foods into easy dishes. It helps out a bit. Just wish I had the time to actually exercise. Work sweat just isn't the same as jogging for 3 hours.

>>54155536
I think it's mainly people in physical labor jobs who actually "work" that much. Being a lawyer and billing your clients for 70 hours of work in a week is not the same. My best friend is a truck driver and he routinely works 60-70 hour weeks. He makes great money and gets overtime, but that's just the nature of the business. He works a 12 hour shift 5 days a week. That's standard in the industry

>>54155536
usually things like adderal.

its doable "sober" but it'll wear you down eventually.

the ones that are constantly at it are usually on drugs.

>>54156445
I barely make it through a 7,75 hour day (with paid lunch) without being exhausted at my arrival home.

As others said
>burn/monster/battery
>alchohol/partying
>getting into routine
You never know, some have no other choice, other like it. Coping mechanism maybe

>>54155536
money is the motivation.

>>54155536
depends on the job but if you work in an office 60 hrs a week you are a literal retard and should be sterilized.
99% of office jobs dont require overtime. just go home and do it tomorrow you are not that important

>>54155536
I work as a network/server tech. Most of my job is traveling to remote locations. One service visit might result in a 12 hour day due to geography. I'm stacking money, PM and guns/ammo. It's pretty comfy I just sit in my vehicle and blast music or podcasts, work for a couple of hours and then drive home. I don't have to talk or see people 90% of the time. I have nothing to complain about.

>>54155536
never understood that either. i work a day im good for a week or 20

i used to work in a business adjoining a restaurant, i would see this one kitchen porter often and he was always so happy and friendly and full of energy despite working such a hard jbo for long hours, so i asked him one day, jokingly;
>"what's your secret man? you're always so upbeat and energetic, is it coke, speed, what?"
his reply;
>"a bit of both to be honest"
no fucking shred of a lie.
>>54155536
>because I can barely get out of bed some mornings
depression will do that to you

>>54155536
You have to create small goals for yourself within the job that make it fun for you. Literally turn it into a video game in your head. I have worked 65 hour weeks with a 1 hour commute each way in the past and I wasn't even tired because it was easy to turn the job into a game. All of life is just mental gymnastics to cope with futility and work is no different.

>>54155594
Literally me. But i only work 50 hours.

>>54155536
Arbeit macht frei

>>54155536
It's magic. I've alternated a couple of times between being a NEET and a wageslave, and I can tell you in the NEET phases I thought I had some kind of disease since I always felt so tired all the time.
When I wageslave it's like I'm on drugs, except there are no drugs involved. Huge burst of motivation and energy.
I like being lazy but I also like to wageslave, and in a sense it feels like I'm happier when I wageslave, definitely much much higher energy.
But everyone is different, and I've seen many at work being depressed.

>>54155536
I know a woman, very cute. in fact, her birthday is on Saturday, but I forgot how old she is because we went like 2 years without talking at one point. but she's either turning 22 or 21.
anyways, she works A LOT. I always ask why not school? or a fucking trade kek.
I will never understand working so much for a mediocre job. but she's still young, I guess. it's just odd to me, how people do it. it's nothing but working, and the weekends are for lazying around, eh? I personally can't do it.

>>54155536
1. workaholics
2. poor and need to
3. golden handcuffs

As to the stamina, you get used to it eventually

>>54161339
>and the weekends are for lazying around
>with more money than you

>>54156258
>You’re almost guaranteed neither of these if you work 60+ hours a week
>T. Used to work 60 hour work weeks

You would if you had a GF/wife

>>54159197
Sounds comfy. I'm currently WFH as a programmer but it is ghey. Still better than interacting with people IRL though. Sounds like your job is the best of both you get to be active but also don't really have to talk to anyone.

>>54155536
You get used to it.

t. Retail Manager

>>54155536
Concrete worker here. In the summer time it's nothing to hit 60 hours. Wish I made more money, but oh well. I like the grind desu.

>30
>foreman
>60k a year

>>54155610
I have very strong internal dialogue. It makes me hate most jobs, i keep telling myself how much I'm working, and how little time I have in my youth I'm wasting away

>>54164509
>i keep telling myself how much I'm working
Weird, my internal dialog is either me cracking silly jokes and being amused with myself or me belittling myself for being retarded.

>>54155536
tens of millions of people in the UD alone are on adderall, basically synthetic meth

>>54162860
nah, I went to school for computer programming and can control my time now. she probably does have more money than me, right now lol. but I get paid and more time off. my goal is unironically working for big tech just so I can have money to start a family. that's really all I care about desu.

Adderall in the morning, weed at night.

>>54163610
On my desktop now. It can be a little lonely sometimes without many people to deal with in a day but me and the bros stay in a call together a lot of the time. Went to work on a military base that had zero people in it not that long ago very surreal experience. I would hate programming, I have zero talent for it.

>>54155536
Anon, find a christian vocation to follow and work an honest job. Your working a job that gives you life no meaning.

>>54155536
I work out, eat healthy and nurture meaningful relationships. It's easier to faces the challenges of life this way.

I also work 36h a week

>>54155536

medication
sense of duty to wife and kids
also a lot of that time is standing around or gazing at a computer so it's not all work
some people live just to work and die, they don't think creatively about life

>>54155536
If it's something that's fun then I can see that. Like I used to do security at festivals during the summertime, and if it's a three day festival all you do is talk to people and joke around with girls all day while being in the sun. It would be 3 days of 12-14 hour days but it always felt super chill

Most people are on amphetamines or SSRIs unironically

>>54155594

>>54164509
Same, each day I have to talk myself down from hammering a railroad spike into coworkers

>>54155536
Your food is being replaced with sawdust. It's really that simple.

>>54155536
Depending on the job, working for 60 hours vs. being at work for 60 hours are two very different things. On any given day, I'm sure actual productivity is capped between 4 and 6 hours, unless someone is burning the wick at both ends. Then quality will fall off pretty quickly without lots of stimulants.

I can do 60hrs easy and that's with a 4hr round trip commute per day.

Measley 3mg of methadone and caffeinated drinks.

>>54155536
I don't know, anon. And I refuse to do it. I wanted to kill myself working 40 hours a week. Lately I've been embracing nihilism. The best way to win at the game called life...is to simply not play.

>>54155536
>How do people work 60+ hour weeks? Are they all on medication or something because I can barely get out of bed some mornings

Addictions to different drugs: caffeine, depression meds, uppers/downers, alcohol, sex, this stuff is their way of keeping people complacent.

In most cases workers are literal NPC zombies indoctrinated to wageslave as much as possible. Back when I was in that lifestyle the excuse I constantly heard was "trying to get/stay ahead". Most people live a lifestyle they can't afford and have no choice; the absolute dread of homeless/food insecurity keeps them motivated.

>>54155536
For me it was 6 (sugar free) monsters a day, a keto diet to keep my blood sugar level, and extremely heavy drinking to get me to sleep at night. I got burnout so bad I nearly had a psychotic break, fucked over my career, and had to put myself into rehab just to get away from work, let alone the alcohol.

Then bitcoin pumped and I was able to quit and since then things have been better.

>>54156385
Kek, I hate to break it to you anon, but most jobs in any field are like that.

>>54167252
This, burgers see money as a ticket to a certain level of lifestyle. They don’t know anything about saving or living below their means, even the “rich” ones.

>>54155536
>Are they all on medication or something
yes it's legitimately the only way i can function in society like a "normie"

without my ssri's and anti-anxiety meds i'm too suicidal and paranoid to camouflage

>>54167582
i dunno but i kinda like how diverse pepes have become

you can represent just about any feeling accurately with a picture of a stupid fucking smug/depressed/angry frog