/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>54132493
TLDR

fuc the swiss

>communists personal banks run dry
>all money to Ukraine
>Israel 2.0 can start
>this will defeat capitalism

rest in piss bozo
> lolbertarianism will be the thing that deals the final deathblow to capitalism.
CS is only failing because of low iq national politicking, lolbertarianism has nothing to do with "great" power struggles causing collateral damage

credit suisse hasnt been nuking for 5 years let them die already

>>54132557
You don't get it bro, even if the Lolbertarians were completely isolated on some piddle piss pot island nation. Global collapse would be their fault.

>>54132521
I agree. It is a country of literal financial mafiosos who have taken over the country and turned it into the tax haven global center of the world. They did it all through libertarian, far right politics and are hailed by rightwingers in our country, ironically. Disgusting country. Just disgusting.

>>54132597
they should've fought beside the 3rd reich. Bunch of clock molesting mickey mouse eurofags

>>54132788
You're really sick, man. You rightwing nazi retards are just sick on another level and none of you even make any sense.

>>54132814
please don't call me right wing.

>>54132788
they funded the third reich you retarded poltard subhuman

>>54132520
You've fried your brain online. Read a book. Actually sit down in a quiet room and read a book.

>>54132493
>Swiss national bank declined to comment on Credit Suisse’s situation, which is down 20% on the stock market

>>54132860
You're rightwing, bud. You're the far rightwing. That's what nazis are, ridiculous fucking subhuman

>>54132493
>lolbertarianism will be the thing that deals the final deathblow to capitalism
yeah, because this clearly has anything to do with libertarianism and nothing to do with central banking and nation state cooperation with huge corporate banks
you are very smart

These are the default swaps on credit suisse right now. This is the cost to insure CR bonds right now against a nearterm default. LOL

>>54133056
>Nazis
>Right wing
Historically inaccurate. Of you really want to cram Nazis on a left-right political axis, they'd be somewhere in the middle.

>>54133118
>Of
If*

>>54133118
>>54133142
The nazis are the far rightwing of politics dude. Nobody cares about your false /pol/ revisions

>>54132493
>Glowies blaming lolberts for everything again
Rothbard really broke you huh?

>>54133208
Mises knocked him to the ground
Hayek savagely beat him while he was down
and Rothbard made sure he stayed there

>>54133179
>Everything nationalized and planned
>Entire economy at direction of a central power
Sounds very right wing to me

>>54133282
sounds exactly like both left-wing and right-wing to me

>>54133282
Yeah that's historical real life dude. Historical real life was the total opposite of what you are portraying. As I stated above, nobody cares about your fake /pol/ revisionism

>>54133282
Yeah that's not historical real life dude. Historical real life was the total opposite of what you are portraying. As I stated above, nobody cares about your fake /pol/ revisionism.

>>54133179
Describe, in your own words, what "right-wing" means to you.

>>54133297
You understand that meme isn't real life either, right? It's just a retarded, pointless, meaningless and cringeworthy meme

>>54133349
Dude, no one in the real world cares about your retarded nazi bullshit or the rightwing's perpetual attempts to deny that the rightwing exists, and that they are the rightwing. Everyone is just tired of all of your bullshit in the real world.

>>54133360
it's 100% real life, only retards like you don't get it, as is obvious when you try to blame central banking and nation states in bed with huge corporations on "libertarianism"
you're totally delusional, literally zero contact with reality

>>54133390
No bud, you have mental illness, like every uneducated incel NEET on the internet espousing your crazy, uninformed views

>>54133414
>get destroyd
>"u-ur ill..."
lmao
lol even
>"CENTRAL BANKS AND NATION STATES IN BED WITH HUGE CORPORATIONS IS LIBERTARIANISM, TRUST ME BRO"
embarrassing

>>54133377
You can't even describe what you mean by "right-wing" so it's hard to take you seriously. If people like you are tired of me then I don't really care.

>>54133463
Bud you're not "destroying" anyone or anything, or whatever crazy narrative you have written in your head about yourself and our conversation. You're just a crazy incel NEET on the internet who says crazy things. Like 99% of posters on this board. Your crazy rhetoric and views aren't real and you're also not relevant.

>>54133482
OK. Cool. Cool story. No one cares. You're still the rightwing. The far rightwing. The nazis are still the far rightwing. Literally nobody cares about how you screech that they're not and that the rightwing doens't exist.

>>54133513
Only one screeching here is you. You sound absolutely unhinged.

>>54133492
>whatever crazy narrative you have written in your head
>"CENTRAL BANKS AND NATION STATES IN BED WITH HUGE CORPORATIONS IS LIBERTARIANISM, TRUST ME BRO"
lmao
my sides, please, no more

>>54133542
OK. Cool. Great. I'm screeching. Cool story dude.
>>54133549
I literally don't know what you're writing about. Switzerland doesn't have anything remotely close to the regulatory framework the USA has. It's a lolbert shithole that's about to collapse global capitalism with it's shitty lolbert policies. That was the point of the OP

>>54133718
>Switzerland doesn't have anything remotely close to the regulatory framework the USA has.
>"SWITZERLAND IS TOTALLY LIBERTARIAN, TRUST ME BRO"
I'm dying

>>54133765
Cool. Great. OK. Cool story. Anything more? Switzerland is a notoriously libertarian shithole country in the real world. Anything more, though? More of repeating my own comments in big green letters and posting boomer gifs nobody cares about?

>>54133789
>Switzerland is a notoriously libertarian

>>54133837
OK. Great. Well, yup, it is. No amount of you posting cringe bullshit will ever change that. So anything more?

>>54133868
>yup, it is

>>54133297
here's your (((altruism))) bro

>>54133876
It sounds like you're very upset that your ideas are failing so visibly, and you want to attempt to gaslight the fact that it's your ideas failing spectacularly, so that's why you're putting on this spectacle. That's what I see. That's how I interpret your reactions to this thread.

>>54133912
that's exactly the point, left-wing and right-wing is the exact same thing, just two sides of the same coin

>>54133932
No bud, you are the far right. Nazis are the far right. People who try to deny that "rightwing" is a thing that exists are the far right

>>54133916
>your ideas are failing so visibly
>"CENTRAL BANKS AND NATION STATES IN BED WITH HUGE CORPORATIONS IS LIBERTARIANISM, TRUST ME BRO"
no more, please
I beg you, my sides can only take so much

>>54132493
biden is interested in buying credit suisse
based joe

>>54133957
Really bud, the level of seethe you are exhibiting over all of this is profound.

>>54133976
>"CENTRAL BANKS AND NATION STATES IN BED WITH HUGE CORPORATIONS IS LIBERTARIANISM, TRUST ME BRO"

>>54133324
So nazi Germany was a libertarian paradise with no structure. Is that what you're trying to say?

>>54133995
Yes bud, Switzerland is an insane and notorious libertarian country. Nobody is ever going to not have a central bank at all because that's not a realistic proposal in any way, shape or form.

>>54134007
this guy is beyond reason, he thinks central banks and nation states cooperating with huge corporations is "libertarian"
I've been laughing nonstop at his impotent rage for almost 30 minutes now
best to just point and laugh

>>54134007
I didn't say anything like that. That's a bunch of random words you made up and then attribute to me. They were a capitalist country that had free markets for the rich and antiworker regulations against the workers. Plus a lot of outright slave labor, obviously. And even white german workers were basically enslaved.

>>54134029
>Switzerland is an insane and notorious libertarian country
>>54134057
>capitalist country
>Nazi Germany
>capitalist country

anyway, tired of laughing now, my sides literally hurt irl, not even joking
closing this tab now, enjoy seething into empty air
Switzerland libertarian, LOL
Nazi Germany capitalist, LOL
imagine being that retard
bye retard (not going to read a single word more of your seething, LMAO)

>>54134054
Yeah Switzerland is a notoriously rightwing libertarian country in the real world, dude. Held up as a paradigm of virtue and model by the rightwing of how the rest of the west should operate. It's run by private banking mafias and it's central bank is minimal. The idea that anyone would ever have no central bank is not a tenable suggestion in the 1st place. So you're doing what libertarians always do which is the class "special pleading" manipulation of pretending to support policies so crazy that they would never be implemented, so you can always pretend that you're not to blame when the bad things happen from the implementation of your other policies

>>54134077
Nazi Germany was a capitalist country, yes. Learn basic history. And switzerland is a notoriously libertarian country. Learn modern politics.

>>54133950
Nobody is denying right wing exists, you asshat. You just seem to define right wing as "anything I don't like", instead of its actual political meaning.

>>54134147
No. You are all the rightwing on 4chan. Nazis are all the extreme far rightwing. And you all, as rightwingers, endlessly deny that the rightwing exists. It's part of your platform and usual, predictable rhetoric to pretend there is no rightwing

>>54134173
You're so unfathomably retarded that I feel sorry for you.

>>54134173
Unhinged. You're saying that the "National Socialist German Worker's Party" was "extreme far right-wing"?

>>54134077
You don't get it dude, they have hecking GUNS so they must be libertarians regardless of the actual government and economic system they operate on

>>54132493
>keynsianism over regulated bank are lobertarianism

Capitalism is about to return commie get ready.

>>54134119
Switzerland is the center of "global governance" neokeynsian institutitons, not a libertarian country just liberal on the social and high taxes and regulations on the economical.

>>54134140
Retarded leaf spoted.

>>54134029
Central banks are part of the communist manifesto retard.

>>54134057
You literally just said that Nazi Germany was the opposite of a highly nationalistic and planned country.

Are you a holocaust denier or something? They systematically killed the Jews systematically implies high structure.

Are you projecting calling people right winged while being a Holocaust denying Nazi?

Are you ok?

>>54132493
Why do I want to punch whoever they guy in the picture is?

>>54133932
>>54134147
>>54134298
>jewish psychopaths who steal wealth and push degeneracy are the same as german autists who built a strong, healthy and debt free society
npc

>>54132520
Being white was a bad idea.

>>54134140
>>54134057
Marxists unironically believe that socialism = marxist socialism, and national socialism or any other socialism is capitalism. What they really mean even if they’re unaware of it is
>if our jewish masters don’t have all the power it’s not socialism
kikes don’t call them useful idiots for no reason

>>54135299
>strong, healthy and debt free society
Strong enough to get almost everyone killed in a catastrophic world war.
Healthy from systematically exterminating anyone deemed 'politically incorrect' which incidently would include almost everyone on 4chan for various reasons, the least of which being our collective support for private property rights.
Debt free from doubling the money supply and then going bankrupt after being crushed by its enemies.
>The only time any of those words could describe Germany was in the early 1950's when systematic reconstruction was taking place and order was imposed by bayonet.

>>54132493
There be gold in them there hills, they'll be fine.

>>54135604
Strong enough to need the three most powerful nations and six years to take it down despite being a bankrupt shithole a decade earlier filthy jew.
Healthy from promoting health and family instead of jewish poison and degenerates.
>if nazis existed today they’d put me in a labor camp
since you’re either a kike or a degenerate shabbosgoy yes, but please, don’t project your sick condition onto others
Debt free from kicking out jewish bankers and usury that lead to an economic miracle so great every kike was shitting his pants that their scam is over once everyone follows Germany’s example
>post war judeification of Germany made it strong healthy and debt free as it is now for everyone to see
why lie on the internet jew? Every time you post another autist is redpilled on your lies

>>54132493
>Not is NATO not in EU
>Controls every single faggot in europe
>produces nothing
London cayman islands are also tax heaven but Swiss is the centre for oligarchs and elitists .The cancer of humanity

>>54134029
Banking is very regulated in Switzerland though. They created bail in bonds for swiss banks after 2008. If Credit Suisse reaches a CET1 ratio of to 7% it has many billions of bail-in coming to it (its 14% right now)

>>54134057
The gap between rich and poor is among the smallest in all of Europe in Switzerland. They clearly aren't libertarian but the slightly more free economic climate created prosperity which the more socialist neighbors can only dream of.

>>54132557
/thread

>>54135865
oligarchs are leaving Switzerland for Dubai

>>54133004

>>54133208
but anon Rothbard was a midwit

>>54135895
Dubai looks like shithole for average rich. The handlers are going to china and Arab elites made by america are going to Qatar . But its a slow process

>>54133297

The Horsehoe Theory
The Political Dichotomy
The Political Trichotomy
The Political Compass (Quadrant)
The 8 Values Political Test
Etc; are ALL retarded. People are more complex then aby stupid chart can show.

The very fact that Corporatism was placed between National Socialism and Monarchism on the Right just tells me whoever made that image is a drooling retard.

>>54132493
>there is such poetic beauty to knowing that lolbertarianism will be the thing that deals the final deathblow to capitalism.
Central banking did this.
The thing you people supported and the thing Libertarians had been warning about for hundreds of years.
Kill yourself you disingenuous liar.

>>54133718
>LIBERTARIANISM IS WHEN CENTRAL BANKS PRINT MONEY TO CAUSE MAJOR ECONOMIC BUBBLES
lmao why are leftists so brain dead?

I hate regulations on banks because I love taking out loans.

>>54133789
>Switzerland is a notoriously libertarian shithole country
Libertarianism means no central bank.

>>54134057
You're stupid and retarded. Stop posting about things you have no knowledge of.

>>54134029
America thrived without a central bank.
You're just retarded.

>>54133297
This picture is retarded.

>>54135965
Can you really blame them? Europe is quickly turning into a shithole and its demographics will be beyond fucked in two generations if it keeps this pace.

>>54134140
>Nazi Germany was a capitalist country
Mountains and mountains of evidence refutes this.
https://youtu.be/mLHG4IfYE1w

>>54135968
Agreed

>>54135859
>please, don’t project your sick condition onto others
Hitler forced Rommel, yes Erwin Rommel who definitely isn't shabbosgoy or jewish, to blow his brains out on the side of the road because he became politically inconvenient.
>I understand that you are a better soldier, leader, national socialist, and German than Rommel, but the rest of us aren't, which means you really are special. I can't wait to read your memoirs.

>>54133360
Shut up, you Nazi-adjacent commie.

>>54133139
>lolbertarian capitalistic mafia banking

Central banks printing money to create massive unsustainable credit bubbles is the complete opposite of what Libertarians support.
Libertarians have been arguing against central banking for hundreds of years.

Libertarians were right.
We told you so!

>>54135865
Switzerland produces a lot compared to Southern/Eastern Europe, or even Britain at this point
chemical, life Sciences, lots of manufacturing

>>54136164
I doubt they consider demography change bad. Every single illegal alien is surviving on a loan either directly or through gibs .Loan is how banks get rich. Those illegal muslims are just slaves .Native Europeans who are self sufficient dont take loans ,they can infinitely survive by passing on wealth to their kids .That makes banks obsolete. Continuous conflicts and chaos creating serfdom class dependent on loans is what make the elites relevant
Considering how much they have invested in creating a illegal slave class in europe I don't think they are leaving forever.China or middleast has better profits due to better slave class for now but they can't assimilate there .Also Institutions and control over new slave class is also much better in europe. Those who can see would clearly know the leash on masses in europe is as good as china if not better. Things would get worse in europe because they want it to get worse

>>54136861
That sounds like a terrible house of cards built on usury. And once it falls, (and it will fall), they're left with all the terrible social problems inherent to having a diverse underclass.

>>54136783
It would be worse shithole then most of eastern europe if we delete their banks. Its a open truth I dont know why people run circles to avoid saying it .If the per capita wealth of individual in literally any country becomes similar to Switzerland it would create marvels and all you have is life sciences.Amazing

>>54137054
the swiss have a higher standard of living than any of the cucked EU countries. Smaller gap from poor to rich as well
what other marvels would you like to see?

>>54137134
Read again ,slowly

>>54137134
>the swiss have a higher standard of living than any of the cucked EU countries. Smaller gap from poor to rich as well
>what other marvels would you like to see?
It's kind of crazy that switzerland is the most capitalist country in europe and their workers have the highest living standards the the wealth gap is the lowest lol

>>54137210
>If the per capita wealth of individual in literally any country becomes similar to Switzerland it would create marvels

They are comfy and enjoy high standard of living. what other marvels would you like?

>but if I had money I would do more cool shit !!
lel top seethe

>>54137300
Even slower .Try again

>>54137368
Seethe again ,slowly

>>54137475
Read again and give me a reason to. Otherwise I would just laugh at you

>>54137530
Even slower .Seethe again

>>54137576
K

>lolbertarians

Yes we destroyed the system, its free market or death faggot

>>54132547
>send all your money to jewkraine
>shocked pikachu when there is no money left

people talk about whites being the "master race" but i'm starting to have my doubts.

>>54139038
jews aren't white, no matter how much they claim it in their articles about "fellow whites" needing to die off.

>>54139302
whites fall for the kikery every time
whites let kikes rob them blind and they sit there and say you're an antisemite when you point it out
maybe whites are just pale niggers after all. not even niggers fall for kike tricks this way.

>>54137530
Faggot

All jews will finally hang and the world can start to heal.

>>54132493
Based, fuck the banks.

>>54132493
>debase global reserve currency
>lolberts did this

>>54132493
was it the lolberts that fixed interest rates at below zero for a decade?

>>54133077
Hey those central banks and huge corporate banks are privately owned businesses they can do what ever they like. If you don't like it go start your own corporate bank.

>>54132493
did you know if your liquidity pool is $1m and you printed double your tokens, you can still only cash out $1m

>>54132493
how do we profit off this bros, chf will dump vs other currencies?

>>54141292
Central banks are not privately owned. They're government monopolies.
Even the federal reserve is.

>>54141648
The Federal Reserve is a private corporation contracted by the Treasury to manufacture bills of the currency. The only influence the government has on the Fed is the chairman of the board.

>>54132493
>no solution?
Calm down, it happened 15 years ago with UBS, and it was way worse. Let's print out enough money, the franc is too strong at present anyway.

>>54141713
>The Federal Reserve is a private corporation contracted by the Treasury to manufacture bills of the currency.
It's more complicated than that. It effectively acts like a government agency and cannot make profits. All profits go back into the US treasury.

Either way it certainly isn't a free market.

>>54132493

time to short the swiss franc, everybody is going to Dubai nowadays its over for the mountain jews

>>54133414
>>54133492
You sound mad buddy. Why are you mad when other posters have differing opinions ? You also bring 0 counter argument on the table, you only call him names. You're not convincing at all.

>>54133297
Can't imagine how midwitted you have to believe this shit. Did you press your glasses into your forehead when you posted this?

>>54141896
If a privately owned central bank wants to
use it's power and influence over a government to collude with the government then that is there prerogative, it would be fiduciary irresponsible to the share holders not to do so. If you don't like it just go start your own central bank.

>>54142592
Do you actually think this is a good argument?
>use it's power and influence over a government to collude with the government
The government created it and gave them anti-free market powers.
Why are you subhuman animals so disingenuous?

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>>54134140
Say it louder queen for the sisters in the back

The world is ran by libertarians and neoliberals who'll tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop eating takeaway every week so no, UBI will not be happening and the people who happened to garner all the wealth in the world by sheer luck will live in their 50 million dollar homes while you'll be paying 3000 dollars a month for rent working 2 jobs and never have the spare time to ensure every last bit of productivity is squeezed out of your existence so the people at top can afford one more ferrari and you won't ever have the time or energy to revolt at them. You'll literally be just like the chinese sweatshop workers you've heard of. Why don't they do anything about their situation? It's because they can't. The wealthy are completely disconnected from the rest of society and the police and military that work for them are paid more than the average person they're scolding to ensure the wealthy are kept safe. You had you last chance to flip things over during the 20th century when socialism took root but the world chose to rip out those roots and here's the aftermath. But hey, at least capitalism breeds innovation or something (you'll still be defending the system after they've turned you into a hamster in a wheel)

>>54143941
>The world is ran by libertarians
How can anyone possibly believe this?
Do you have schizophrenia or something?

>You had you last chance to flip things over during the 20th century when socialism took root but the world chose to rip out those roots and here's the aftermath.
Every single example of socialism or even "social democracy" in action has been a fucking nightmare for the working class.
You have no empirical evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_economic_freedom
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/coep.12010

>>54144004
I swear I was being sarctisc, plus it's a copypasta I found on /g/.
>Say it louder queen for the sisters in the back
Also here's some good books to help anons sniff out commies
sealed train by michael pearson
Disinformation ion mihai pacepa

>>54144085
damn well you got me
there are anons saying this same retarded shit on /biz/ today
thanks for not dragging me into a 5 hour long debate kek

>>54137530
Swissfag here. The reason we're so fucking rich and awesome is because everybody takes his duties very seriously and we are very polite and don't let our immediate impulses rule us. Also because we can vote on most things we tend to be less polarized.
You on the other hand are some brainwashed pseudo machiavellian divide et impera faggot that needs to be ruled over because you are too retarded for your own good.

and yes, some of our wealth came from these banks obviously, but that is by far NOT the sole reason for its riches.

jealous little bitch

>>54132493
Fed budget zero meana the nation will live through their fall.
The whole thing is a foreign money laundering company for people avoiding taxes.

>>54132520
jews

Hahahaha was für nuttesöhn da umme sind. Scheiss amerikaner ich hoffe das ganze land wird eh fette crash ha rr. Schwiz blibt Weltmacht.

>>54132520
here comes the fiatcel

>>54144835
pay no mind to the glowie fiatcel trying to convince you that "YOU NEED THE BANKS" and "YOU NEED THE JEWS" otherwise "your country would become some ghetto"

>>54144835
Credit suisse is about to blow up and take your whole mountain (((financier))) country down with it. Only solution out is for the snb to print fake money to give CS while letting the citizens enjoy inflation and even that might not be enough. The emperor has no clothes on, u pompous twat. It's over

>>54133965
Kek fuck you I am not sleepy anymore

>thread about bank
>half of it /pol/ retards fighting with their cringy buzzwords