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What does that mean smgays?

>>54140114

>> No.54141314
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Links?

>> No.54141320

IS TODAY HANNAKU BECAUSE THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST JEWISH SHIT OF ALL TIME

>> No.54141324

hangin round
downtown by myself
and i've had too much caffeine

>> No.54141325
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It's literally, unequivocally over.

>> No.54141326

Do you guys actually trade companies whose products or services you're familiar with or do you guys just chase trends?

>> No.54141330
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Absolute state of this market

>> No.54141333

Imagine being bullish when banks are failing at the rate of one per day

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>>54141314
The market is now 2008. Links are repossessed and liquidated.. auctioned off. never to be seen agaaaain

>> No.54141340

Switzerland's financial industry plays a critical role in the country's economy. The government will ensure the stability and resilience of the banking sector, with the aim of preventing bank failures. While no guarantees can be made, it is unlikely that the Swiss authorities would allow a major bank to fail without taking decisive action to mitigate the consequence

>> No.54141343

>>54141326
there's no point trading in things you believe in. It's all about what the big boys think. You just follow them. Only way to win

>> No.54141344

it's over bobo
jew computers won

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>>54141326
I did, but since everyone is being a panicky gorilla nigger I pulled most of my positions.

>> No.54141348

>>54141326
As more information enters the markets, it's less about fundamentals and more about trends. In the 1930s, yes, you'd want a company with solid books. But now with the glut of information, algorithmic traders, and free money, prices are extremely inflated, fundamentals don't matter, and trend trading seems to be the way to go

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>>54141333
I mean, with MMT in full effect, it looks like central banks will just print their way out of any problem.

>> No.54141351

Full statement of the SNB (swiss national bank) on CS:

>The Swiss National Bank SNB and the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority FINMA assert that the problems of certain banks in the USA do not pose a direct risk of contagion for the Swiss financial markets. The strict capital and liquidity requirements applicable to Swiss financial institutions ensure their stability. Credit Suisse meets the capital and liquidity requirements imposed on systemically important banks. If necessary, the SNB will provide CS with liquidity.

The SNB and FINMA are pointing out in this joint statement that there are no indications of a direct risk of contagion for Swiss institutions due to the current turmoil in the US banking market.

>Regulation in Switzerland requires all banks to maintain capital and liquidity buffers that meet or exceed the minimum requirements of the Basel standards. Furthermore, systemically important banks have to meet higher capital and liquidity requirements. This allows negative effects of major crises and shocks to be absorbed.

>Credit Suisse’s stock exchange value and the value of its debt securities have been particularly affected by market reactions in recent days. FINMA is in very close contact with the bank and has access to all information relevant to supervisory law. Against this background, FINMA confirms that Credit Suisse meets the higher capital and liquidity requirements applicable to systemically important banks. In addition, the SNB will provide liquidity to the globally active bank if necessary. FINMA and the SNB are following developments very closely and are in close contact with the Federal Department of Finance to ensure financial stability.

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>>54141296
Yeah it's hard to be bullish right now, that's why mumu needs to kneel to the bobos. Those who do, we'll make sure your death is quick and painless.

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>>54141344
WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS THIS CLOWNWORLD SHIT

>> No.54141360

Give it to me straight bros I put my child’s university fund into UUUU will it ever recover?

>> No.54141363

Credit Suisse, more like CRISIS SHEESH
lmao gottem
help

>> No.54141365

>>54141287
BUT YOU SAID TO HOLD FROM MID MARCH TO APRIL

AHHHHH IM RUINED

>> No.54141369

>>54141360
it's a big fund

four u

>> No.54141382

>>54141369
Kek

>> No.54141385

>>54141369
kek

>> No.54141390

>>54141369
good pun, ruined by reddit spacing

>> No.54141391

>>54141296
If banks fails hard then you get rate cuts so we pump again.
If FED ignores that and still hikes then we go down further.
That's how I see it.

>> No.54141392

>>54141326
I would if the ones I liked were actually publicly tradable but they aren't so fuck you.

>> No.54141395

>>54141369
Carlos!

>> No.54141396

>>54141360
That sounds very painful.

>> No.54141399
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>BTC maximalism is wrong
>you should diversify

>> No.54141403

When's JPow speaking again? That's when I buy the dip.

>> No.54141405

>>54141363
i came up with credit schiesse and it probably cant be topped by anyone

>> No.54141406
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It's over bobos
Stocks will never go down again

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>>54141390
No, that was a good pun regardless of spacing I would like you to apologize to that anon now

>> No.54141410

https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/desk-operations/central-bank-liquidity-swap-operations
Soon, just you watch

>> No.54141412

BEWARE
THE
IDES
OF
MARCH

>> No.54141414

>>54141340
Now that we are heading into hyperinflation, what is the play if you're not a member of the bailout class of "people" (tech business owners, banks, etc) but a lowly employee-citizen?

>> No.54141420

>>54141406
One more week.

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>>54141420
Lol lmao

>> No.54141435

>>54141412
What the fuck is ides, speak english you towelhead

>> No.54141436

>>54141405
oh I missed that one
I tried

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What meme stocks does this thread invest in that I should add to my watch list? Seems like you guys are getting BTFO today.

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>>54141420
>FOMC is in 1 week

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>>54141406
3 more weeks.

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>>54141345
Please don't post my mommy again. Thank you.

>> No.54141452

My portfolio is systemically important. Where's my bailout??

>> No.54141471

>>54141452
sorry your nose isn't long enough

>> No.54141472

>>54141326
>Do you guys actually trade companies whose products or services you're familiar with
Nigger what is this the 40s

>> No.54141481

>>54141414
During hyperinflation you want gold and perhaps real estate, businesses. Not sure about other stuff.

>> No.54141487

>>54141326
buy high sell low

>> No.54141491
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>Dear anon
>Your lifting records and feats of strength will not save you from the dump
>Join us
>Be one with the arcane

>> No.54141492

It's bobover...

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>>54141326
>Do you guys actually trade companies whose products or services you're familiar with
Yes.. I actually do business with some of those companies...

>> No.54141498

This is what the market looks like while a banking crisis caused by systematic monetary policy failures for 20 years is beginning.

Now that's what you call Zogslurp

>> No.54141501

>>54141326
You make the most money following trends. Fundamentals don't matter anymore in the age of algorithms.

>> No.54141504
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>>54141447
Why not? She's pretty, demure, and accomplished.

>> No.54141505

>>54141365
I never said hold a commodity. Anybody that tells you buy and hold a commodity let alone some ETN that derives itself from futures.


>>54141162
>Commodities is trading at max difficulty
Just stay in sh!tcoins zoomer

>>54141393
no that wasn't my main indicator but it was something I knew other ppl were using to determine a floor. It's the same as ppl using the 200 day SMA. Even though it's BS you know that traders and algos are using it so it's something you keep in the back of your mind when judging price action.

And in any case WTI is just one universe. We have ppl buying and selling laundered russian barrels on the high seas outside of sanctions. Just trade and don't overthink things.

>> No.54141508

>>54141414
vintage analog synthesizers, automotive tools, made in USA stuff that is high quality in general

>> No.54141511

>>54141504
>she

>> No.54141512

>>54141439
He's unironically right. Most of this volatility is people freaking out about nothing. We are in crab mode until the pivot.
>>54141498
Then buy puts.

>> No.54141513

>>54141333
In a week no one will care and you'll be saying "but this isn't what the news said".

>> No.54141515
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>>54141504
BECAUSE SHE'S MY MOMMY!!!!!!!!

>> No.54141516

>>54141326
Your goal is to be a smol fish following the whales. When the whale eats, the minnows sweep in for the mayhem.

>> No.54141526
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Imagine missing the 4th monthly oil dip.

It's like you all hate free money.

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>>54141511
Don't be rude!

>> No.54141541

>>54141526
Is the war in Ukraine over yet

>> No.54141548

If I have to buy 880 shares of WEAT for a trade, how would that look in terms of options?
Eg, for Jul 21 exp, I could get 15 contracts to have 880 delta, but then gamma is high. If I look at expected movement to 1SD, then it's +/- 1.28; this means I can account for the min/max delta with gamma factored in.
So if my max risk is $200, this seems like I need to buy only 4 ATM contracts to have the right risk profile. This puts my total cost to $420 instead of $6200, but that seems like a really big reduction in upfront capital. It can't be right, can it?

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Hey anon, is this the best future prediction of the nasdaq-100 market index?
i showed you my chart, pls respond!!!

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>>54141526
i love oil, but i'll love oil more if it gets cheaper..

war is inevitable. oil will go to the moon then to saturn then to pluto... once we start WW3

>> No.54141561

>>54141348
>fundamentals don't matter,
They matter for macrotrends, things like "free money" are fundamentals.

>> No.54141565

Am I retarded or does UUUU actually look like a decent buy right now...

>> No.54141566
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SHOULD I SELL EVERYTHING AND RUN
OR FACE EVERYTHING AND RISE?

>> No.54141567

>>54141438
Don't forget opex at EOW

>> No.54141568

b00mer r0cks

>> No.54141572

>>54141541
Not until Biden's out of office. Could last 4 more years.

Look up Burisma if you're curious.

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>>54141536
Alright I warned you, now I'm posting goblinas. Remember, you did this not me.

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SON OF A BITCH
FEMALE BROKER, SAVE ME

>> No.54141585

>>54141555
trend lines from a low interest rate environment dont just casually work in a high interest rate environment
because as you are witnessing once theres some hiccups the market can and will go straight down and will take years to recover from

>> No.54141587

>>54141565
It tends to swing between 6-9, and I've been accumulating it every time it dips below 6. I bought 200 shares last week at 5.50. It's a comfy stock and not too bad for writing calls against it. I do want more myself

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YOU WERE WARNED ABOUT THE LINE
YOU IGNORED THE LINE
YOU DIDN'T LISTEN

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>>54141555
now adjust for interest rates

>> No.54141604

SOUR HOUR

>> No.54141606

>>54141582
>look at me consoooooom

>> No.54141609

>>54141345
>tattoos

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY

Women with tattoos are FILTHY 9/10 times

>> No.54141611

>>54141548
The bid/ask spread for those contracts was 0.60 vs 0.70, so immediately upon entering, it's a 14% loss. Spread really does seem to matter bigly with options.

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>>54141582
>now I'm posting goblinas
Orale!

>> No.54141621

>>54141351
>Credit Suisse meets the capital and liquidity requirements imposed on systemically important banks.
Assuming their books aren't cooked. But they are.

>> No.54141622

>>54141587
>calls
I don't understand how anyone can deal with the stress of options. At least if I buy shares I can always hold the bag, but options can expire worthless.

>> No.54141624

I'm yelling timber

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>>54141555
checked and use log scale next time

>> No.54141629

Buy the dip

>> No.54141635

>>54140608
can't you automate part of their jobs or something? are we talking about home cleaning? robots and pressure washing machines exist.

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>>54141624

>> No.54141636
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>> No.54141642

>>54141585
According to the new trending lines, new top of the market won't be reached before 2027-2029

>> No.54141644
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Mumus are so delusional. Why are they like this?

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>>54141618
Here's one for your troubles

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>>54141622
you sohuld try selling options. that's where the real fun happens

>> No.54141658

Bobo please dump more, I have a lot of leftover buying power.

>> No.54141662

>>54141622
Because I understand the greeks. If you hold the bag on a trend trade, you've lost. My trading system is designed to only lose 2% account size per failed trade, so position sizing and volatility matters. Options just happen to be a convenient way to lever the capital costs of the trade so you can potentially have more on the go at a time.
Options are really great! The expected prices and risks and rewards are all known ahead of time, it just depends on what the underlying does. You can eg expose yourself to vega or theta and construct a spread and choose what risks and rewards pay off

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>>54141582
I am going to kindly ask you to reconsider this horrible decision anon

>> No.54141668

>>54141628
That gif triggers me hard. Fuck you anon. Fuck you to hell.

>> No.54141670

>>54141348
>As more information enters the markets, it's less about fundamentals and more about trends
Only zoomers believe this. The market has one trend and it is CRABBING. Information about fundamentals is priced in when it happens, and then we crab otherwise. It might be a slow crab, or a fast crab, but it is a crab nonetheless. We get a day of genuine pump or dump and then the rest of the month is a crab.
Crab is all that is.
Crab is all that will ever be.

>> No.54141672

>>54141662
You talk about this stuff like it's science

>> No.54141677

>>54141635
Automation is a meme, we are at least 20 years out from automation being able to do anything other than flipping burgers. Also it's commerical cleaning so definitely not.

>> No.54141678

>>54141662
>>54141622
Also this >>54141656
That's where the real money is made, selling contracts to degenerate gamblers and doing so safely. It's like picking up pennies on the railroad tracks, as the saying goes. Risk management still applies.

>> No.54141688

>>54141658
>>54141636

if you ask nicely maybe another bank will fail overnight

>> No.54141701

>>54141688
Bobo-chan please, I will do anything, even sell you my soul for an extra bank collapse tonight.

>> No.54141703

>>54141672
Financial mathematics is kind of a science discipline, yes. Quant and algo traders are a thing, and even the derivatives markets were literally named after calculus concepts. It's very much the math-y side of things

>> No.54141704

Cassandra predicted this

>> No.54141706

>>54141360
Probs will go -40% from here, crab for a few years and then moon. All the retards that bought after it went 10x thinking they were Rick Rule buying paladin for 2 cents need to get shaken out first.

>> No.54141708

>>54141649
Jesus, how small is this thing?

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>>54141662
>Because I understand the greeks

>> No.54141735

>>54141662
Options are pretty bullshit. The natural hedging done to counteract options creates a lot of pointless swings that resolve and repeat every monthly cycle.

In general I'd rather just swing the shares throughout these cycles, avoiding commissions and benefitting from improved liquidity.

>> No.54141739

>>54141677
I mean, unless the house is literally full of shit or something, robots help. of course they won't replace a human worker, but they sure can make the job a lot easier.
also, pressure washers + chlorine for everything else.

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>>54141710

>> No.54141754

SVB guy used to run Lehman.
CEO of credit Suisse is named Lehman

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>>54141754
it's like poetry it rhymes

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>>54141658
Oh don't worry, he will.
>>54141754
Who writes this shit?

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>> No.54141777

>>54141754
Lehmann with two 'N's... big difference!

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>>54141754

>> No.54141782
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long or short OIL?

>> No.54141791

Nasdaq Chads, Im in the green :)

>> No.54141792

Who is pumping the Russell? Jesus these people are obsessed with pumping dogshit

>> No.54141793

>>54141526
70 was sent to the shadow realm. It's going lower. The SPR slurp will be too late.

>> No.54141794

>>54141754
they cant keep getting away with this

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>>54141775

>> No.54141798

How are bear markets real lmaoo
Oh no the market is drop- cash injection
Oh no a major financial institution has fai- cash injection
A global pandemic is causing worldwi- cash injection

Tell me right now why hyperinflation can't be fixed by injecting loads of cash into the economy, when everything else is fixed that way

>> No.54141802

>>54141782
Long until the war ends.
So, long.

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>>54141800

>> No.54141810

>>54141782
short

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>>54141782
Long but only starting late summer.

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>>54141800
>>54141775
>>54141809

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>>54141798

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>>54141754
Unfortunately, the writers strike about 15 years back meant the caliber of story would never be the same.

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>>54141821

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post tits to rally the market before close

>> No.54141837
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MO bros...
smoke em if ya got em

>> No.54141843
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>>54141834

>> No.54141844

>>54141798
>real hyperinflation has never been tried.

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>>54141828

>> No.54141846

>>54141798
You solve hyperinflation by injecting nucash

>> No.54141847

>>54141754
The next Lehman is Blackstone

>> No.54141853
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>PDBC
Why are commodities down so much today?

>> No.54141855

>>54141735
It's all about using your money and resources efficiently.
If I had $250,000 in my trade account, I only want to risk 2% per trade. This means a loss should only set me back $5,000. I take profits at 1.0x ATR and losses at 1.5x ATR. Right now the SPY has an ATR of 6.59.
Whether I go long or short is irrelevant; for this particular account, I need to trade 505 shares and take wins/losses once it moves $6.59, such a trade costs $196,000 or about 78% of my capital posted.
But if I use options, I only need to match 505 delta (or equivalent). I could buy 8x 387 calls at just $12,500 which should more or less match the risk but this trade now only takes 5% of my account. Now I could potentially have 10-15 trades on the go at a time.

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>>54141847
>MFW after all the memeing about how Blackstone would swoop in if the housing market imploded

>> No.54141859

>>54141853
recession fear is my guess

>> No.54141861

You have 5 minutes to close your positions

>> No.54141862

>>54141853
We don’t need them anymore now we are reverting back to stone age economic activity

>> No.54141865

>>54141754
Is that what they mean when they say history doesn't repeat, it rhymes?

>> No.54141870

>>54141853
i remember when mannarino shilled me this last year, good times

>> No.54141873

>>54141843
DEAN

>> No.54141874

You have 5 minutes to open your positions

>> No.54141876

>>54141847
Blackrock is a Ponzi scheme

>> No.54141877

The banks are going bail everyone out so you know literally can’t lose stock market should be blowing up

>> No.54141881

>>54141853
Commodities can just be printed via the Federal Jewserves new 4-D printing machines you dumb chud

>> No.54141885

>>54141844
A number of professions are about to get wiped out by AI. Deflation is back on the menu.

>> No.54141889

I have 5 minutes, open your legs

>> No.54141897

>>54141877
No they are only bailing out banks not you, reported your post for anti-semitism

>> No.54141898

you have tree fiddy minutes to crab your positions.

>> No.54141899

>EVERY SINGLE DAY IS LIKE A JOKE
>THE MARKET MOVES EXACTLY LIKE A WHALE-MANIPULATED SMALL CAP OR SHITCOIN
>GLOWFAGGOTS ON THE INTERNET WANT TO TAKE A MORAL POSITION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S OK TO NOTICE THIS

GLOWFAGGOTS ON THE INTERNET JUMP OFF A BRIDGE PLEASE

>> No.54141904
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54141904

HHIIIIIIIGGHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.54141910

>>54141876
Blackrock=/=blackstone

>> No.54141913

>>54141782
Short if recession.

>> No.54141916
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54141916

What about a Fonzie scheme?

>> No.54141925

>>54141899
oh hey it's (You)
how much did you lose today

>> No.54141931

>>54141876
Whichever, Blackstone seems more schizo Blackrock seems to be in it for the long run

>> No.54141934

CRABBED.COM I’m starting to think this whole thing is fake n they

>> No.54141939

It was a crab day after all lmao

>> No.54141938
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Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

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>>54141916
AYYYYY

>> No.54141943

getting tired of crabbing between 2 memelines

>> No.54141949

>>54141913
>dow is only -326 after hitting -700
is it a good time to short this shit?

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>That ending on SPY

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>>54141938
I did alright

>> No.54141965

Ding ding!

>> No.54141970

>>54141956
like yesterday. How did that work out?

>> No.54141973

>>54141956
Plunge Protection Team brought to you by US tax payers.

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>>54141938
+1.75%

>> No.54141977

>>54141938
Nasdaq went green? Is tech the most resilient stock now?

>> No.54141979

>>54141938
Not checking

>> No.54141980

I TOLD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS
I TOLD YOU WE WOULD CRAB

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>>54141970

>> No.54141987

GETTING TIRED OF HOW EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, IF IT SEEMS REALLY OBVIOUS THAT THE MARKET MIGHT BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY, THEN THAT APPEARANCE WILL *DETERMINE* THAT THE MARKET INSTEAD DOES WHATEVER ASSRAPES THE MOST PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT INTO THE APPEARANCE

THIS IS TOTALLY HOW A REAL MARKET ECONOMY WORKS THAT ISN'T JUST 100% MANIPULATED MINUTE BY MINUTE BY AN ELITE REGIME OF SELF-PRESERVING CRIMINALS

IT'S TOTALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A ZERO SUM GAME AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A POKER TABLE THAT EXISTS SOLELY TO TAKE SUCKERS' MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT EMT IS AND WHY THE SEC EXISTS RIGHT

>> No.54141988
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NASDAQ has been frontrunning the market and closed green today

>> No.54141994

Nigger

>> No.54141993

>>54141855
I sell plenty of options and they almost always expire worthless.
Oftentimes there will be a period in the middle of the contract period where they pump pretty hard, but they almost always expire worthless. Even if they're 10% ITM a week before expiry, they almost always expire worthless.

My counterparties never had intent to own the shares, the thing they were riding was an imaginary value, a dream to ride a wave and bail onto someone else at the top. Perhaps my initial counterparty achieves that, but to do that they're making a trade to someone else. I never close my short options. So by expiry, whoever's holding wants it gone. The only way they achieve that is at zero value. It always comes back to me. Always.

>> No.54142000

>>54141977
I'm pretty sure it's all the GPT4 announcement yesterday bolstering a small number of companies

>> No.54142002

>>54141938
>-85 dollars on boil

im going to continue to baghold this and hopes it can get back up to 7 dollars

>> No.54142003

>>54141956
Anyone in retail buying in this market deserves to lose all of their money, the fact that they invest on days like this is proof that America needs a new depression.

>> No.54142004

Do any Argentinians frequent smg? If so what’s it like to live under 103% inflation?

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>>54141938
up $2k

>> No.54142007

>>54141435
>What the fuck is ides, speak english you towelhead
He's wearing a full body towel as is appropriate for a Civis Romanus who's just emerging from the public baths. "Ides of March" means "15th day of March" in ancient Latin.

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>>54141834
>>54141938
+4%...

>> No.54142014

Scam Wick 4 in theaters now

>> No.54142013

>>54141993
Wow yeah you totally sound like that's happened more than like three times so far.

>> No.54142015

>>54141296
send all bakers to the camps

>> No.54142016

>>54141938
Up $125

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>>54141938
Great, thanks, how about you?

>> No.54142029

>>54141987
You are going to continue to get raped by the market until you finally capitulate and accept that they want you dead and the middle class eliminated

>> No.54142030

Fortress jpm aint no looking so hot.

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>>54141938
+40$

>> No.54142036

>>54142003
You are probably right...

>> No.54142037

>>54141987
degenerate fucking gambler. you're no better than the self-preserving criminal elite you bitch about. go make something for money

>> No.54142041

>>54142030
Literally free money

>> No.54142045

>>54142000
I'm also pretty fucking tired of Microsoft getting to pretend like they invented AI just because a bunch of glowfaggots on Reddit and HN finally had it shoved down their faggot ass know-it-all throats by their faggot ass demonic overlords that transformers exist.

>> No.54142059

>>54142037
I don't procure positions of power and then undermine the principles that justify the power, no, actually, dumbass. What a stupid fucking thing to say.

>> No.54142063

>>54142045
They didn't invent it, but they're the most direct way you can invest in OpenAI, which I've wanted to do since GPT2

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>>54141938
>XLB: -3.22%
>XLC: 1.1%
>XLE: -5.33%
>XLF: -2.63%
>XLI: -2.44%
>XLK: 0.06%
>XLP: 0.68%
>XLRE: 0.03%
>XLU: 1.37%
>XLV: -0.06%
>XLY: -0.15%

>Me: -2.00%
>YTD: 0.01%

Well BOIL is sucking more dicks than my cheating ex girlfriend, but whatever. I'll pour one out for NRGU niggas though.

>> No.54142079

>>54141938
Not checking

>> No.54142100

How do I correctly use the Fibonacci Spiral?

>> No.54142104

>>54142037
Why the fuck are you even in the thread, by the way, if that's what you think?
[This is a rhetorical question to hopefully spur other mods to fire this fucking faggot piece of shit who just acts in bad faith all day every day.]

>> No.54142107

>>54142077
I thought portfolio diversification was a meme

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>>54141987
>margets are subosed to be predigable

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>>54141987
Yeah pretty much. If it was a conspiracy, it would be much more efficient.

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>>54141938
+12%

>> No.54142132

>>54142104
ANSWER MY QUESTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>54141925
>>54141925
>>54141925
>>54141925

>> No.54142136

Cool it's know-it-all glowfaggot day, I guess. Enjoy your shitty thread and your shitty planet where no one is allowed to talk about anything without some glowfaggot mob's permission or else they'll be bullied.

>> No.54142149

>>54141414
>Now that we are heading into hyperinflation, what is the play
Forests, farmland, fresh water sources, non-power tools, heirloom seeds.
t. Eurofag, so not suggesting guns and ammo

>> No.54142158

>>54142063
Why would you want to do that? It's a chat bot. The current iteration of which costs 0.03 cents a word for microsoft to run just for the GPUs, much less the army of programmers they've hired to keep it from saying "nigger". And GPT4 will have an even more fucking parameters and require even more A100s just to run.

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>>54141938
+0.6%
I like my boomer stocks

>> No.54142168

>>54141938
-2.6%
Back to the drawing board

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>>54142107
Personally I would've thought low commodity prices would result in lower PPI, rather than the other way around.

>> No.54142171

This fucking market

>> No.54142188
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FUCKING DUMP ALREADY

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Ok i went long on OIL cuz its recovering. X15 leverage , wish me luck oil barons

>> No.54142198

We're all friends here right

>> No.54142201

Ready to liquidate some bears Mr vick?

>> No.54142203

>>54141910
My statement stands.

>> No.54142209

>>54142198
No, it's every man for himself. This is a battle ground where you fight tooth an nail to get yours and get out.

>> No.54142210

Bond niggers looking mighty fearful

>> No.54142215

>>54142158
Because it's going to make a genuinely massive amount of money. Probably the most money any company has ever made in history. I'm dead serious, I cannot stress enough how obviously huge it is to create knowledge workers on demand without the associated costs of immigration.

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>>54141938
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I DIDN'T SELL LAST FRIDAY WHEN CS CLOSED UNDER 3. I AM RETARDATION MAXIMUM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.54142223

>>54142210
I wish there was a UVXY for the MOVE index, if only to gawk at.

>> No.54142229

>>54141938
Total -.64%
Less CDs -.96%

Some of my longs got hammered. Boring day.

>> No.54142234

Credit Suisse is getting bailed out by the Swiss national bank, so what now?
I feel like this only signals shits very bad, but idk if there is still going to be a serious credit event with this move.
The Fed is still raising (50/50), the dollar squeeze is still going on, inflation is sticky, the markets are still fighting the Fed.
What do we even do at this point, bobros?
I don't think the mumus are getting their pivooooot but I think we aren't going to get more rate hikes either. I guess stagflation is still pretty bearish.

>> No.54142243

>>54142198
Unfortunately there is plenty of anti-semites here still. Although some of them are probably just edgy newcommers trying to fit into "4chan culture"

>> No.54142245

>>54142002
minus 168 on BOIL

>> No.54142251

>>54142215
How'd that work out for 3d printing?

>> No.54142256

>>54142234
>I feel like this only signals shits very bad, but idk if there is still going to be a serious credit event with this move.
Things were bad due to the rate hikes, but now the situation is patched and we'll continue. Same as with gilts.

>> No.54142260

Is Schwab worth buying?

>> No.54142268

>>54142215
There is no "knowledge worker" that chatgpt can replace that should have been hired in the first place.

>> No.54142269

>>54142234
bailouts aren't bullish
we will never get a covid money printer ever again
mumus are still in denial thinking that when the recession happens the fed will print another 10 trillion to pump the stock market
simply not gonna happen, that experiment failed miserably

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That entire bullshit move in the last 5 minutes

>> No.54142275
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>>54142198
Yes. Unless you're with the Fed. Then we're gonna trade hands.

>> No.54142280

>>54142251
How did creating knowledge workers on demand without the associated costs of immigration work out for 3d printing? I have no idea, poorly I imagine

>> No.54142282

>>54142198
No, only glowfaggots. They're all in the same gang, so they're friends. They have meaningful citizenship, so they get to have a country too for that matter. Don't confuse everyone with glowfaggotry though; it's actually rather exclusive and elitist.

>> No.54142288

where are my links? i need my links!

>> No.54142289
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>>54142013
It happens every month. I don't really care if you believe me. Chart SPY performance vs itself excluding monthly OpEx week. It underperforms by ~15% annualized when including options expiry.
We've been crabbing for over a year now, and most of the losses happen on this exact week. You can make excuses like CPI or FOMC alignment or whatever you want, but the reality is that there's been a rise in options trading and it's entirely fake money trying to ride waves of momentum. The one constant is that theta ticks down.

Mostly I sell covered calls, although with rates improving I've been switching more to puts recently. The yield on cash is priced into the gap between puts and calls pricing though, so it's not really a free ride.

I'm sure at some point the bull market will resume and I'll miss out on a month of upside, but it's not like call selling is my only strategy. The point is that for all the math that goes into betting on options, in the end it's a zero-sum game of hot potato. At least when it comes to individual smallcap stocks, there isn't really anyone buying options with intent to ever exercise the options and convert to shares.

>> No.54142292

how do i get my hands on off brand viagra without getting prescribed?

>> No.54142293
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Took some GTLB profits.
Now buying at 30, selling at 40.

>> No.54142301

>>54142260
>tfw own schw
>tfw happy

feels so good schwabbros. its the hidden fortress

>> No.54142299

>>54142260
It was a couple of days ago, no telling now.

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>>54142260
i bought today

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54142307

made yall a flag

>> No.54142311

>>54142136
>>54142104
>>54142059
>>54142045
>>54142013
>>54141987
take your meds before you blow your brains out

>> No.54142312

>>54142256
>patched
Patched in a way that things are bound to break soon enough anyway.
So idk. Shits hard to read because of their shitty patches to this broken-ass system. How long will these fucking patches even work?
Can the patches work when a euro central bank still has to contend with the USD?
Gundlach believes the Fed will eventually bail out the entire banking system.

>> No.54142315

>>54142210
They just want attention.

>> No.54142323

>>54142268
1) you're wrong, there are tons of grindy jobs in graphic design and writing that will be productive to automate away
2) you clearly don't work in tech if you're unaware of how much coding is being done by gpt now
3) we're still accelerating

>> No.54142324

>>54141853
>Why are commodities down so much today?
China has said that they plan to cut steel output for another year, to meet their climate goals.

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>>54142035
I'm proud of you anon.

>> No.54142336

>>54142280
Same as 3d printing promising to end all manufacturing and associated labor costs I'd imagine.

>> No.54142353

>>54142292
Just go get prescribed tadalafil and take daily to have a thundercock and good meaty pumps in the gym. Also why the fuck are there so many twinks here dropping weights right now

>> No.54142359

>>54142312
The entire banking system needed to be bailed out with either dollars or confidence. Fed went with the latter - banks can baghold to maturity and setup interest rate hedges because people stopped making runs on deposits.

>> No.54142360

>>54142243
What moron would be pro-semite?

>> No.54142366

It's not going to dump till options expire. And then it will when jp hikes rates into a banking crisis.

>> No.54142371

>>54142269
>we will never get a covid money printer ever again
I'm bobo-inclined but I think they will have no choice other than to flood the system with money again. They have no other card left to play. They're eventually going to be backed into a corner where credit seizes up, there is no cash available, even if they dump the reverse repo on the world it won't be enough for more than a few months.
So idk, I'm very uncertain, I think anyone who is being honest is very uncertain right now.

>> No.54142373

>>54141326
>Do you guys actually trade companies whose products or services you're familiar with

yes, sometimes, but that's not the only criteria. i trade Palo Alto Networks and other cybersecurity stuff sometimes because i've sold their products to the DoD in real life and i know how they operate. but mostly it's macro trading and secular trends

for example: solar and green energy is pretty much a fucking scam, but people like that shit so the stocks get bid up. see FSLR. shits been ripping since last July. am i familiar w/ solar panels? fuck no, but people like it, so ride the wave

>> No.54142378

>>54142336
Whoever said that sounds retarded. The difference between them and me, of course, is that I'm right. I'm also pretty pleased to see how few people believe in AI just yet, I didn't realize i was still early

>> No.54142379

>>54142311
>another faggot wants to police social behavior on 4chan
I sincerely wish all glowfaggots were dead. You really are just the scum of the fucking Earth, and not only that, you are blind and stupid.

>> No.54142393

>>54142272
Bearish

>> No.54142395
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>tom lee going bearish
>burry going bullish
what does it all mean?

>> No.54142397

>>54142379
ANSWER MY QUESTION OR I'M GOING TO GET YOU GANGSTALKED

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>>54142307

>> No.54142403

>>54142378
Uh huh. Fucking retard

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>>54141326
I buy VNQ in my roth and VT in my brockerage

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>>54142397
If you need any volunteers to gang stalk I'm available and willing.

>> No.54142422

Be sure to add all of these interactions to my file so there's no confusion about motive when I do flip out.

>> No.54142424

>>54142371
Which will lead to the dollar rapidly losing value and other currencies strengthening which will send the world to zero unless they are in a niche isolated market.

>> No.54142429

>>54142397
Baggie, put your trip back on. It's annoying to have to filter you every thread.

>> No.54142430

>>54141938
-5% YTD, not too bad for just holding a handful of dividend ETFs and MSCI Europe / World.

>> No.54142435

>>54142395
We crab

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Bull bros.................. I am angry........ But I still bought

>> No.54142441

>>54142395
The Eternal Crab

>> No.54142450

>>54142332
Ugly goblin whore

>> No.54142452

i thought with this much money the printed banks were invincible followwd with high rates

>> No.54142456

>>54142422
Sorry anon. I didn't realize your reply to me was part of some Schizo freakout.

I hope you feel better soon.

>> No.54142464
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>>54142360
Or even semite-neutral!

>> No.54142474

Tell me about WING. Why is at 15x Revenues. Why do they like the Mango Habanero sauce so much.

>> No.54142475

>>54142450
ugly incel racist

>> No.54142477

>>54142422
your motive will be white supremacy when you flip, make no mistake

>> No.54142481

>>54142452
They would be if they operated as they should have, but it turns out that they were using shitty MBSs as leverage to gamble on bonds with retarded amounts of leverage again, because 2008 just wasn't fun enough the first time.

>> No.54142485

>>54142424
Agreed, this is why I have been quietly pmg mode for a while now. Cunning anons have been building their stack while silver was being thrown away.

>> No.54142487

>>54142474
They charged a little extra to get all flats. Its genius

>> No.54142493

>>54142480
>>54142480
>>54142480

>>54142480
>>54142480
>>54142480

>> No.54142500

>>54142260
>Is Schwab worth buying?
Bought with my small "gambling budget" on Monday, sold today for +13% profit.

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>>54142474

>> No.54142514

>>54142452
Banks have no reserves and are relying on cashflow generated by yield to cover day to day withdrawls. Treasuries either are on their books floating (that they can sell anytime) or are marked to be held until expiry. Banks would have gone -$ on their portfolios since long term bonds are down over 40-50% since their peak.

>> No.54142529

>>54142507
Nice. Explains why Jim Chanos is skeptical of WING bragging about their COGS volatility

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>>54141296
>bullish
It's like he's not even trying though

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>>54142307
Sick

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they trained the bots boys...

>> No.54142614

>>54142422
I'm never selling my ARKK, and I'll never stop supporting Zelensky.

>> No.54142645

>>54142614
You're hilarious. You'll have better luck trolling pol. We simply don't care either way.

>> No.54142648

>>54142610
>Cop out weasel word bot

>> No.54142678

Sold my last position I'm all cash now. Not even sure what my next play is going to be, it's a shit show right now

>> No.54142704

>>54142514
>Banks have no reserves
Why do we do this?

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>>54142243
Stop trying to be ironic. Unless you really are a kike of course.

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>>54141296
I don't give a shit about what some random faggot thinks. I know charts better than these "experts".

>> No.54143258

>>54142243
get gassed

>> No.54143346

>>54142704
you think the wealthy keeps their money in cash? lol... lmao even... its called opportunity loss. 99% of the time people dont withdraw that cash, might as well put it to work

>> No.54143371

>>54143346
What if you made a bank which kept the people's money and made profit from fees only?

>> No.54143433

>>54143371
you would be eaten alive by inflation alone, with insufficient excess capital for growth or hiring talent at competitive wages/salary. sounds like a shitty biz model

>> No.54143742

>>54143371
This was already proposed. Multiple times. The Fed rejected it, vehemently.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-08/the-fed-versus-the-narrow-bank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-reserve_banking

>> No.54145525

Been away camping. What did I miss?

>> No.54145844

>>54141536
>tv too high
>decor is pretty poor taste