/biz/ - Business & Finance

fuck you

fdic will become insolvent

Will it crash?

>”The FDIC will secure the deposits it will be fine”

>15 months into bobos "big crash"
>SPX isn't even down 20% from ATH
Kek, do you bobo losers ever get tired of losing?

Who's to blame for SVB failure?

Risk management of coarse

We will moon because FUCK YOU

>>54055363
is there any downside to buying 6 month t-bills? Whats the return on them?

>>54055363
What happens when they cross? All investment moves to bonds?

SOXL will be green on monday.

>>54055393
>"Mein Fuhrer, Steiner..."
>"Steiner didn't have enough liquidity. The wire transfers didn't take place."

>go to /pmg/ for advice
>it's full of low information bagholders

YOU HAVE MESSED WITH THE PRIMAL FORCES OF NATURE, MR. BEAL,
AND YOU
WILL
ATONE!

SIVB was largest holding in KRE before this
list of potential targets next week for puts

>>54055426
Then the government does some dumb shit with raising the debt ceiling, and bonds crash too.

aren't bank runs short term bearish but giga bullish for big banks?

>small banks get taken over by FDIC
>FDIC sells them to big banks at a discount
>big banks now have new clients and assets
>even better if FDIC runs out of money, they just turn on the printer
>FDIC website literally says they're backed by the full faith and credit of the US Gov

what crisis? a literal who bank like SVB (don't lie, you didn't know they existed until this event. inb4 one of america's biggest banks, that's on paper, and not anymore) means WFC, BAC, JPM, these guys are going nowhere

i have never been more long term bullish on financials in my life, especially if this cascades and lots of other small banks fail and we get levels of slurping we didn't even think was possible. prove my thesis wrong

clown world is so fucking out of control that insured depositors are rooting for their bank to fail first so they get the coverage before fdic runs out of money.. at the end of the day it's insured depositors at the most fucked off and fraudulent institutions who come out unscathed.. if I don't laugh I'll cry.

>>54055464
Naw, we saw this pattern in 2020 election. This is just when we Bussin.

>>54055423
the 6-months

>>54055486
>clown world is so fucking out of control that insured depositors are rooting for their bank to fail first so they get the coverage before fdic runs out of money
...why don't they just withdraw?

>>54055484
>>54055484
>prove my thesis wrong

The whole banking system is supposed to make transactions easier. Not to have to deal with bank runs or inflation every 5 years.

>>54055448
>“The banks have no liquidity? NO LIQUIDITY!”
>”IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SOFT LANDING!”
>”We were going to tame inflation. We were going to build back better!”
>…
>”I should never have trusted someone with the name ‘Jerome’”

>>54055423
If you need to sell it for liquidity reasons it will have gone down since rates are still rising (for now)

>>54055484
Yes, however we do currently have a communist government. so you might end up with windfall taxes, a wave of regulations, lots of rah-rah populism right as an election season kicks off.

Since the people on /pmg/ are mouthbreathing retards, where can I buy low(ish) premium silver?

>>54055423
The annualized yield is around 5.1%.
The downside is that it only lasts six months. Six months later, the bill matures and you get your cash. If you want to invest it further, you'll be forced to buy whatever assets are on offer at the time; the yields may be disappointingly low.

BULLISH

>>54055598
You can’t kek, everywhere is fucking sold out even my local coin shop

I'm just happy everyone is talking about treasury yield curve inversion now. I never quite got the meaning of it before.

>>54055426
I don't think anything major would happen if they crossed. They're very different asset classes.

>>54055598
herobullion

>>54055557
but transactions ARE made easier. when FDIC takes over, it's biz as usual. checks wont bounce. money is still there. a bank run has been reduced to a mere name change and inconvenience.

>but inflation

that's a different story unrelated to banking issues but of central monetary policy

>>54055588
as long as i make loadsamoney slurping financials with calls it's no skin off my nose

This anon is good.

>>54055563
>>54055619
so is that 2.5% over 6 months then? it seems like a safe option instead of trying to invest in this wack market. how would I know when the yield is the best anyways? also if rates are still rising then in 6 months i can buy again for better rates.

>>54055676
>as long as i make loadsamoney slurping financials with calls it's no skin off my nose
Could be, but political risk is a harsh mistress. One bounced lobbying check from JPMorgan and your calls drop 50% on a Bloomberg headline Tuesday saying "BIDEN: BIG WALL STREET BANKS SHOULD NOT BENEFIT FROM GOVERNMENT INSURANCE DURING A CRISIS"

Reminder that all this noise is just bobo cope and the bottom ...still... was in october

>>54055366
ive been waiting for 15 years for this moment to go all in puts and I have almost nothing in my brokerage account because I had to cover some unforseen costs
fuck

>>54055750
Based.

>>54055696
im more impressed with the guy from last september who bet vix would hit 150 in late march
that motherfucker is probably sitting in the illuminati bunker on hidden island laughing at us

>>54055793
kek

>>54055676
>that's a different story unrelated to banking issues but of central monetary policy
oh like when a central monetary policy has to be thrown out of the window because of bank insolvency
you fucking retards, lmao

>>54055713
Yeah, T-bills are far safer and more boring than stocks.
If you bought a 26-week T-bill with a 5.086% annualized yield, that would be 2.511% for the 26-week period. You would have to pay Federal income tax on that gain, but not state or local income tax.

>>54055750
>mom told me to be a lawyer

>>54055363
Ah yes, the Godzilla pattern.

Schwab chads are we going to be okay?

>>54055803
VIX at 150! Imagine...

>>54055713
Yes you will make about 2.5% in 6 months. The fed fund futes say rates will peak in Sep or Oct so you should be able to pick up the same T-bill yielding when that one matures, but rates might drop too.

>>54055726
Do you really think any politicans would actually go after the babks?? There's a reason why in 2008 the government chose to bail them out and told the rest of us to go fuck ourselves

>>54055793
If only Norf would run globohomo...

>>54055918
2023 is not 2008. And, moreover, anon wanted a bear case. If he's all-in on calls, a single day of hesitation or headline of rabblerousing can fuck him over big time. Remember when the TARP vote failed the first go around?

>>54055845
>>54055898
sounds like a plan honestly. would rather make a little bit of something than try and figure out this mess of a market.

I'm not afraid, in fact I'm happy.

I'm buying

>>54055977
>pic
Well that confirms it, full market crash monday

>>54055451
>a bunch of schizo doomers who hoard an asset for the apocalypse known to be outlawed, unusable and ultimately confiscated during times of trouble are uninformed
no anon, really?

>>54056050
>implying Monday won't be a surprise bank holiday where markets close to celebrate Queer Indigenous Peoples' Day

>>54056049
>I'm buying
post buy orders monday am

>>54055696
The contagion. It is spreading. Multiplying. Growing. Creeping through the forest. Can you hear it? The slow creaking. The soft rumbling growing louder and louder. It is coming.

>>54055451
A lot of the good posters are asleep or here

>>54056080
Even funnier
>Abundant industrial metals that will get exploited during high prices naturally dropping price
>Normies all fiat pilled and wouldn't see barter value in pms in a collapse

You may wish we have a Volcker style recession instead of what you are going to get” - Charlie Munger

What did the old man mean by this?

>>54056211
China number one

>>54056102
Yeah, is he buying index funds, puts, or cans of beans? "Buying" can mean a lot of things.

I have a fuckload of puts expiring Friday. Am I gonna make it bros?

>>54056127

>>54056211
Have you ever heard the phrase "the living will envy the dead?"

>>54056080
That damn worthless asset that governments always make illegal to own

Sounds like FDIC is gonna just bail out SVB and other shit. Of fucking course, can't let the bankers be held accountable for once huh?

https://youtu.be/j1IUF_Sl6wg

>>54056292
Dont hate the banker, hate the game

>>54056277
Based. The banks need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

BULLISH

>>54056272
if the price goes down then sure

>>54056292
>Sounds like FDIC is gonna just bail out SVB and other shit
how are they going to do that when the fed is doing QT?
More QE? With inflation uncontrollable even with the fastest rate hikes in my entire life?
bro
BRO

This will spread faster than covid in 2020.
The WEF are engineering the great reset. Most of the WEF members are in banking and fund management

>>54056311
why would u post this image

>>54055558
For the love of God can somebody please make this a thing.

>>54055393
For the love of God can someone please
make this a thing.

>>54055598
Start diving for junk you late fuck

>>54055451
They'll make more money than anyone else on the board and the ones that can do mining stocks will make even more.

>>54056323
https://www.allianz.com/en/economic_research/publications/specials_fmo/uk-gilt-crash.html

>>54056343
Because it's funny to laugh at plebbit cucks obsessed with catering to roasties? Imagine being that involved in women's hygiene. Something is wrong with his brain.
>jannies short /ES with 20x leverage

>>54056311
>what else should I gather?

Yes beta. Gather the resources for the woman.

What is the consequence of 2023 being double jubilee year? the 7th shmita?

>>54056442
its just sad. no one wants to see reddit shit

>>54056323
I dunno, ask around some more

WE'RE GOING DOWN, DOWN IN AN EARLIER ROUND

>>54056405
What needs buying?
MBS's
T-bills
T-notes
T-bonds

>>54056507
beautiful

>>54056540
Assuming the FDIC spends their $125b shoring up the, say, 50% impairment of SVB's $200b. They'd then tap some of the Treasury's $100b credit line to backstop First Republic.

That means the treasury's general account is drawn down much sooner than June and a debt ceiling deal needs to be hammered out pronto (April/May). QE would need to be done to handle all the new debt issuance the debt ceiling authorizes - buying all across the curve.

Clown world.

>>54056507
shits pretty disingenuous considering the m1 hockey stick

Can a brainchad explain to me how the value between the USD and Swiss frank has fluctuated by 10% in 2 days?
Isn't that an unreasonable amount for Forex. Are people securing their bug out bags?

>>54056527
>stablecoins?
depegging
>soverign debt?
crisis
>DXY?
pick related

but y

>>54056687
saturday night smg is always shitty in one way or another

>>54056575
Do you thing that congress will move forward with the debt ceiling quickly or will somebody roadblock it?

Anyone got the ‘janny!’ Starship troopers webm, post it please

>>54056640
10%? I see 3-4% over the last few days.
The US dollar may be weaker because the market thinks the next FOMC meeting will increase the Fed funds rate by 0.25%.
And sure, maybe people are grabbing other currencies out of fear. CHF and JPY have this reputation among boomers for being safe-haven assets, but that reputation seems out of date.

>>54056769
i misread it. it looks perfectly normal actually.

ive finally mastered the internet
20 years ago i probably wouldve clicked on one of those thumbnails out of morbid curiosity, but as a grizzled veteran ive seen it all and dont need to see any more, i am immune, i have transcended

you know jews are panicking when they dump their scat fetish folders

I, contrary to popular opinion, blame the janitor for this shitposting. I am 100% sure that the shitposter is doing this as revenge for a janitor banning him for trivial "off-topic" posts.
Bravo, shitposter. Beat that Jannie to death.

>get banned for talking shit to Jannie
>some fag can spam shit posting

Nice website faggot gook

What's the deal with jannies? If I don't specifically mention a ticker in my post I get banned for being "off-topic". If another guy posts scat, that's fine. I mean what kind of shitty logic is that?
>sell SPY

>>54056863
not figurative shit posting either

>>54056864

Fuck niggerz
Fuck jannies

Simple as

That dividend from Waste Management should be arriving soon.

>>54055977
He's right. It's worse!

>>54056861
He has the means to micromanage harmless "off-topic" intra-thread posts and deletes them in seconds, but this will stay up hours.

Meanwhile Iran and Saudi Arabia are friends again kek. I think Petroyuan is gonna fuck up stock markets real good when it gets stronger.

https://youtu.be/KmbAfg2J2fg

>>54055363
> Lock up money in T-bills
> Fed stops rate hikes before they reach maturity
> S&P moons and you get out priced
No refunds

I'm browsing this thread and 80% must be just bots. There is no way so many people are clueless doomers.

>>54057034
>Everybody I don't agree with is a bot!
This is your brain as a permabull libtard that doesn't understand decades of the private sector being loosey goosey with virtually interest free money has consequences.

>>54056993
Exactly, and not just the S&P. You'd also get priced out of longer-term Treasury notes and bonds.

What would happen to a systemically important bank if it showed a duration mismatch on its balance sheet like SVB did?

Wtf is going on in this thread?

>>54057106
>then we're going to price the fundamentals
There's nothing more terrifying than US stocks being priced on fundamentals.

>>54056993
The face value of your bonds would also moon though and you could flip them for a hefty profit.

>>54057124
I just can't imagine that happening. The risks SVB exposed themselves to were the equivalent of setting a pile of money on fire desu.

>>54057154
Only a small profit. Six months is a very short duration so has very little sensitivity to interest rates.

>>54057106
Interest free money was needed due to huge growth in US economy and demand for USD glibally. You are just a doomer who watched too many YouTube videos by grifters

>>54057106
Also
> Morgan Stanley
They shorted and are now trying to manipulate the markets with their neverending stream of bearish articles. Nothing new.

>>54057152
Are you not invested in good companies anon?

>>54057187
>Only a small profit. Six months is a very short duration so has very little sensitivity to interest rates.
A profit is still a profit. You flip them for your small profit + plus the coupon payments you earned then just return to investing in equities as the market is turning bullish.

>>54057111
Yeah, exactly why short term bills are higher yield. There is little demand for them. People prefer buying 10 or 30y notes to lock up decent yield for longer before rate cuts.

Sucks that FDIC will bail the banks again, I wanted to see another 1987 level crash next week, oh well

https://youtu.be/XSQoorx7foI

>>54057231
How many coupon payments to you expect to receive on you 6m treasury?

>>54056102
>>54056249
I'M BUYING SEMIS

IM BUYING OIL

>>54057034
For me, it'll be laughing maniacally this week when the wojak index reaches an all time high in these generals. I've heard a hundred times as much shit talked out of bulls mouths in the last year as that jackass spammed getting feltched out of turd cutters earlier in the thread and seeing every one of those delusional fucks have to gobble it up is going to be so cathartic I'll have to do cocaine to not pass right out. There will be an ocean of blood and I am here for it and fucking ready, and I will cheer, because it's been looooong overdue and is more necessary than you can begin to imagine.

Buy uvxy

>>54057228
I am, I'll just regret having already bought.

>>54057303
Sounds good. They're both highly cyclical, but I like the idea of planting seeds now and waiting patiently for the market to get bullish again.

>>54057321
And you expect it because a regional bank, that is overexposed to single economic sector, mismanaged their assets. Ok.

Posting with you has been a privilege

>>54057388
I reckon futures will be deep red come monday

>>54057373
I expect it because there's no other alternative than to slaughter the golden calf that is the market to save the dollar and economy in its stead, same way it happened a hundred years ago, for the exact same reasons.

>>54057423
Everyone thinks that, which is exactly why we will pump. I'm buying ARKK calls, COIN calls and Chainlink on Monday.

>>54055329
What are the odds this "Gentile" is jewish?

>>54057446
You work in a government office and you don't hold any stocks. You're not a real person.

>>54057458
>Everyone bullish is a Fed
Meds, schizo.

>>54057465
That's the same fake shill portfolio that you posted earlier.

>>54057465
Everyone that's bullish isn't a fed, but anyone that says "meds, schizo" or any variation of it is. Tell your bosses no goddamn bailouts this time.

>>54057440
Economy doesn't need saving though. It's doing great. The only sectors that have troubles are bubbles like tech and housing. As for USD, Fed is doing good job dealing with inflation if you compare the results with the rest of the world. I'm also happy to see that Powell doesn't want to bend his knee to congress and will continue the fight despite government asking for more free money. Maybe finally they will realize they need to make more realistic budget.
Overall I don't see anything that would suggest we are even close to some epic collapse like the one you are anticipating

>>54057480
Bailouts are illegal, bail ins will happen this time.
>>54057473
>Fake portfolio
You're on a chainlink board, retard.

>>54057528
>Bailouts are illegal, bail ins will happen this time.
Freudian slip?

It is guaranteed that we dont see a 50 bepis raise this month.
Maybe 25
Maybe 0

There will be no "bail out" for one small bank. They will be absorbed by a larger bank.
Go listen to Gregory Mannarino, hes actually right for once

>>54057452
oh vey! Looks like he left Lehman just in time and been doing the needful for Silly Valley.

>>54057446
how do you buy options on crypto? Seems a bit speculative..

>>54057321
I second this since TVIX is kaput. Get some inverse/bear/short ETF.s for easy gainz my frenz

>>54057557
> 1pbtid
> fren
Morgan Stanley shills are not my frens

Ack! The time just changed. I voted in a provincial thing last election to stop these stupid time changes but it lost by 0.5% or something.
>>54057537
>Maybe 0
There is zero chance of zero hike. They have to hike with inflation the way it is. 25 is a possibility but the likelihood of that is steadily decreasing.

>>54057577
>t. person who puts spaces after greentext arrows and posts bland pro-government takes

>>54057611
Oh look, another MS shill comes to defend the other one.

>>54057590
Sorry but you are canadian at best and therefore your opinion is irrelevant

>>54057626
post portfolio

>>54057590
> constantly increasing
It's at 40% now after going up to 70% because people misunderstood Powell. He clarified during hearing in front of house of representatives and since then the chance for 50 hike dropped significantly.

Ok biz time to stop speculating and figure some shit out, someone bought $200 worth is SIVB puts for .01 and sold them for over 60.00per contract, don’t ask me exactly just look up unusual whales twitter he has the exact info. Time to put our collective autism to work and figure out the next short play, pol is being spammed with WFC but that seems to be a bit of a stretch, we need to find the next woke bank run buy women and poc that over extended their woke budget any ideas?

>>54057635
I'm not allowed to have portfolio since 2021 due to conflict of interest at my job. Kinda sucks but maybe soon it will change again.

>>54057668
Blackrock? Blackstone is also 100% fucked, but not sure if they count as woke.

>>54057683
That's really the best response you could think of in five minutes? GTFO, shill.

>>54057695
I'm going to start a hedge fund called Blackball.

>>54057695
> Blackstone is also 100% fucked
How so? People keep saying this but are never able to explain why. Is it because you got spooked by the property that defaulted?

>>54057695
Idk man feels like any of the top 10 banks won’t be as exposed as their trading desks have been taking in cash hand over fist, it’s gotta be a semi smaller bank that doesn’t have a trading desk to offset any over exposure to bad decisions

>>54057577
whose morgan?
what schilling nigger?

brrr

>>54057722
You don't just "accidentally" start defaulting on things. They don't have enough capital to keep the charade going after the Fed started tightening. Also please kys, shill.

>>54057747
They do have capital. And the default was forced by the vote of bond holders on technicality despite BX willing to keep this asset and make future payments. It wasn't BX choice. Not a big deal, they made more money in earnings last quarter than this property was worth.
Seems to me like you are just reading news headlines and building your worldview based on them.

>>54057731
Aren't there published ESG indexes somewhere? That might be a good place to start.

>>54057509
>economy doesn't need saving, it's doing great
I forget how dumb some people are.
>>54057528
>Didn't deny what they responded to
At least you're honest. Already knew the bail ins were coming, I pity those that didn't.

>>54057722
yeah you dead

load them shorts

RIP TVIX i think i broke it sorry guyz

>>54057811
This is the most retarded shill campaign that I've seen yet. Do you really think that you're going to hold back the biggest financial crisis since 1929 with some astroturfing on 4chan? You're trying to put out a forest fire with a bucket of water.

>>54057848
Now this is even dumber.
You think someone from big banks even knows about this place? They might have heard about it once
Nobody cares about this shithole

>futures

>>54057848
You have no arguments. All you have to say is some youtube-grifter tier catchphrases. It's clear that you are trying to manipulate emotions of people posting here

>>54057861
Peak retard to think no sentiment manipulation happens here.
>>54057862
What in the fuck is happening in that webm

>>54057861
>1 post by this ID
>newline after every sentence
upvoted

>>54057867
You too. Fuck off back to discord.

Give it to me straight, /biz/...
If I, theoretically speaking, shorted tech into Friday close, will I be heemed on Monday open?
>NASDAQ is under 200 WMA

>>54057848
The only shills here are the people who are still bearish after 14 fucking months of permabear euphoria. You had your chance to enter cheaply and as usual you bobos are too greedy.

>>54057890
>chimes in to back up the other two shills after going silent because he fucked up an earlier post
You slavs are so bad at your jobs.

>>54057903
>Slavs
Nice projection, vatnigger. The bullish posters are not shills, we are and have been contrarians for literally a year. Being a doomer bobo is currently the mainstream position, you're in a crowded trade and you'll lose everything.

>>54057921
Lol, there we go. I fucking KNEW it. Thanks for outing yourself. You shill faggots have been the ones spamming bullish disinfo. You can't even buy US stocks from where you live.

I feel like the SVB thing will end up being a nothingburger like evergrand.

>>54057936
I'm a pro Ukraine, pro Biden American who is currently bullish on the stock market. Why would I be bearish when literally everyone is bearish and the market has already crashed 20% from highs? The risk of missing a pump for a maximum of maybe 10% more downside is completely retarded.

>>54057946
What do you guys use for currency over there in Ukraine? Well, 15 of those have just been added to your account.

>>54057946
This, it is a nothingburger. The doomer bobo shills who compare it to 2008 are economically illiterate and should be ignored.

>>54057954
>Is a doomer bobo
>is also a vatnigger
Every fucking time, you're probably an actual r*ssian. Normal people are pro Ukraine and pro freedom.

>>54057881
No idea but I think the markets gonna pump a bit to get rid of the impatient shorters before going down

>>54057950
Holy fuck lmao. Post more. Do you live in Texas Oblast? What do you do for a living as an average, regular American who is not from Ukraine.

>>54057880
It's sad to see someone with ego that fragile that he feels offended by facts which go against his understanding. Must be a very painful existence to be this agitated all the time.
I'd love to learn why I'm wrong about BlackStone but you were not able to provide any information that would support your thesis. In fact your thesis was based in nothing more than just your opinion constructed from a headline. And then you get defensive after I explained to you further details about the case. Quite bizarre. Here at Shill Bank inc. I'm used to dealing with more open minded individuals

>>54057946
The entire c-suite should go to prison desu. Enough of this shit.

>>54057984
Redpill me on this Ukranian shill thing. Aren't they all getting shot at by Russians? What happened to the classic shills from India and ShareBlue?

>>54057984
I'm a software engineer, $300k TC.

>>54057954
>What do you guys use for currency over there in Ukraine?
alcohol, ammo, cunny and Pop-tarts

>>54057999
It's a couple of things. Ukraine is extremely poor yet relatively high IQ, so a lot of NATO countries outsourced their shilling there. Secondly, they've been crawling all over 4chan in an information war against their russian counterparts, but things have kind of spiralled out of control and now they've basically assumed control of several boards as their personal propaganda channel (see also: >>>/k/). They're deathly afraid of losing financial support from the US, so they're spamming bullish propaganda on /biz/ now.

>>54057969
Yeah would make sense. USA collapse is probably a wet dream of most of the russians. Wouldn't be surprised if they got a kick out of doom posting here to spread panic. Wouldn't be the first time when russia used social media to spread fear too.

It’s funny every time how fast the sentiment goes from optimism and buy everything to complete darkness and despair, the market is kinda retarded like that

>>54058057
To be honest, the January-February rally was extremely suspicious unless you were really hoping for the bear market to be over. Now we're back to where we were 6 months ago

>>54058050

>>54058057
Often it's just doomer /pol/ tourists who come here excited about happening.
Spoiler: nothing ever happens

>>54058000
>>54058009
>>54058104
>>54058111
All you shills had to do to get people to like you was just be more subtle about it. But no, you couldn't, so now you get what you deserve. Enjoy losing your aid, because there won't be any money left after this week in the markets.

>>54058088
You'll never see 3500 ever again, you'll be very lucky to see under 3800.

>>54057879
>What in the fuck is happening in that webm
birds are really weird. you can't understand how weird until you've lived with them. i babysat a parrot for a week. That parrot and I had a peculiar relationship. It was eerily similar to living with my ex girlfriend but in bird form. The early morning exuberance was the same. Holy shit I cannot tolerate being woken up at 5 am over some nonsense. Bird appeared at my bedside with a bottle cap it had taken from the recycling. It was very excited about it and demanded I wake up to appreciate it.

>>54058143
Kek imagine thinking that you are so important that some organization sent 4 shills after you.
Luckily you trained yourself in nuclear-grade hatred which made that task futile

>>54058194
You know, I really was rooting for you guys for the first six months of the war, but after all of the relentless spam, you can go catch a missile strike, faggot.

trying to find a straight answer online but my boomer ass is having a hard time. question is simple: during the financial crisis back in 2008, did fdic cover 100% of all depositor cash during the bank runs?

There are still shills pushing their bags onto an unsuspecting /smg/ to make them miss a generational short sell opportunity.

When does the first pre market open for us?
Today at 10? What timezone is this >>54057388

>>54058242
2008 didn't have bank runs. The liquidity problems back then were completely different and weren't related to actions by their customers. This is completely different.

>>54058253
Central European Time

>>54058226
It's clear that you will believe whatever you want. The sad part is that you use your schizo delusions as an argument in discussion about stock market and economy. At the same time you don't even put any effort in your research just like you shown with Blackstone. I hope no one takes any advice from you here

>>54058286
Cool ESL, faggot.

>>54058286
>20 pbtid
Fuck off shill.

next rate hike will be 25bps, markets will go orgasmic and banks will pump by 5 to 10%
screencap this post

>>54058339
+15 ukrainebux

>>54058261
so i found this on the fdic website, meaning if what they say is true (that nobody has lost money on the promise made), then this must be a long-term nothingburger. it states here they'll turn on the printers if needed.

>>54056575
>They'd then tap some of the Treasury's $100b credit line to backstop First Republic.
Why do you think they'd need that beyond the usual doomers on Twitter posting pictures of like 5 people standing around in front of a bank?

As they said in their most recent 8-K:
>Consumer deposits have an average account size of less than $200,000 and business deposits have an average account size of less than $500,000. Within business deposits, no one sector represents more than 9% of total deposits...
>First Republic’s liquidity position remains very strong. Sources beyond a well-diversified deposit base include over $60 billion of available, unused borrowing capacity at the Federal Home Loan Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank.
> The investment portfolio is less than 15% of total bank assets. Of this, less than 2% of total bank assets is categorized as available for sale.
For comparison: SVB's investment portfolio was 57% of total assets.

I've heard people talk about SBNY being at risk because of Signet though.

>>54058365
Look at how big their insurance fund is, and then look at the massive dollar amount that they're supposed to insure. Their entire insurance fund is equal to about half of SVB's pre-bankrun balance sheet. There are going to be bail-ins. There's no other way.

>Sándor Garbai (27 March 1879 – 7 November 1947) was a Hungarian socialist politician who served as both head of state and prime minister of the Hungarian Soviet Republic.

>From 1908 he was the chairman of the Workers' Insurance Fund and during the First Hungarian Republic he headed the All National Housing Council.[2] He was in favour of the merger of the MSZDP with the Hungarian Communist Party which occurred on 21 March 1919. This led to the foundation of the Hungarian Soviet Republic, with Garbai as the Revolutionary Governing Council, both head of state and prime minister. Although Garbai remained titular leader of the Soviet Republic for the better part of its existence, the de facto leader of the state was Communist foreign minister Béla Kun.

>Mátyás Rákosi later joked that the revolution's Jewish leaders took the gentile Garbai in so that they would have somebody to sign the death sentences on Shabbat.[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sándor_Garbai

I can't wait for the ultimate stock market pump once russkies announce collapse. I mean officially collapse, because russia has already been a 3rd world shithole for decades.
Imagine living in a country whose governments hates you and does everything to make the rest of the world hate you too.
I doubt they can go for much longer against NATO too. Unironically we could see SPY at 500 and above this year.
> this is not financial advice, I just find triggering ruskie doomers amusing

>>54057879
>bird 1 is regurgitating food to baby bird
>bird 2 is trying to do the same thing but can't see straight down and is regurgitating food onto the head of bird 1
>regurgitated food looks like blood because idk red food

NNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH IIII'MMM PIIIIIVVVVVVVVVOOOOOOOOTTING
NNNNNGGGGGGGGGHHAAAAAAAAAAHHH

>>54058529
As a BOIL holder I say long live Vladimir Putin

>>54058365
What if 50% or more banks fucked up.
I doubt it can cover some extreme event.

>>54058705
Kek, I can imagine some nat gas trader having his portrait hanged in a central place of his newly built mc mansion

I could have done without a front row seat for the rerun of Lehman Brothers.

>>54055803
He tried to warn you people but you refuse to listen.

Sub prime is contained

This has been one of the most active weekend /smg/ in a long time. Shit is going down next week you can tell.

>>54055458
Actually good content and no one replied kek classic smg

>>54058926
Why doesn’t bitcorn seem to give a shit, I thought it would dump all weekend

>>54058926
We might finally break out of this eternal crab market. Or we are just going to continue the cycle until we all own nothing and be happy.

>>54058937
Decoupled, please understand

>>54058860
Don't take your holiday this year. Save that cash for the dip in the summer, that is how I read this.
I don't spend almost anything on holidays, though.
>>54058529
I expect just more of this shit war till some lame truce is signed and then bunch of nothing

>>54058529
I don't think that the American economy or even just market sentiment is that tied to Russia.

>>54059000
Yeah probably not really that much. It all depends on how will the geopolitical situation will look like after the war ends too.

>>54058938
Because Cathie Madoff put out some propaganda
>>54058939
Next week will be blood red. After that who knows?

Why would MSN be telling the truth all of a sudden. That's the thing I don't get. It's always widely understood that they are just separated from reality to give the most retarded clown news with little or no basis to what is going on and yet they are just now saying the truth?

>>54059050
Eventually you can't hide from the truth. Even the most normal of normalfag knows shits fucked, so if you're a finance media company you don't want to be the last one to state the obvious. Sad thing is $3225. Is being way too generous. It will probably be closer to $2000 in my opinion

>>54058938
BTC is waiting for the NASDAQ to dump.

>>54056622
m1 is tiny compared to broader money, also your pic shows m1 contracting lol

>>54059124
>>54059050
The media are consistently permabears, they sell fear because it gets clicks and views. 3200 is an absurd low that will never be reached, 3500 was the generational bottom and you missed it in October 2022.

>the only bullish posters are literal, unironic government shills
holy shit it is so fucking over oh my god

>>54059134
>3200 is an absurd low
kek no. We just had a bank collapse, and more will follow. If the bottom of the bear market was 3200, that would be a fucking godsend. It's the equivalent of Cramer saying "this isn't nearly as bad as 2008". The media is just buying time.

>>54059168
They said buy when everyone is selling. PPT will save it.

>>54059191
Small banks collapsing is a nothingburger, big banks are safe and this won't be anything like 2008. The absolute lowest SPX will go next week is 3790.

>>54059209
At least make it believable you fucking shill.

How bad is Monday going to be?

>>54059209
I don't know that I'd call the 16th largest bank a "small bank". This can be a nothing burger if it's handled by the fed and government properly and swiftly, but let's not kid ourselves, look whose in charge.

>>54059245
Let me put it to you this way. It will make black tuesday look like it has a wife and kids and volunteers at his local firefighters community and has a career in engineering with a background in welding.

>>54059246
>Implying Biden is bad
Trump deregulated banks and literally caused this Silicon Valley Bank collapse.

>>54059134
>3200 is an absurd low that will never be reached, 3500 was the generational bottom and you missed it in October 2022
hahahhahahahahahaah im sharing this board with these people

>>54058938
It cant act on its own, traders dont know and bots dont get any signals from the stock market either, hence the crabbing

>>54059300
They're literal paid shills from eastern europe.

>>54059300
The world isn't as bad as you /pol/tard doomers think it is, you're not getting a chance to buy at -50% from ATH because this recession won't be nearly as bad as 2008.

>>54059324
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IF YOU'RE NOT BEARISH LIKE ME YOU"RE A LITERAL PAID SHILL!!!!!!!!

>>54059277
Ok you're either a troll or genuinely retarded. I hope this isn't the general mindset of mumu's because that would just be sad. If you're truly bullish, post your positions.

>>54059277
>>54059328
>>54059339
Do you have any fucking clue where it is that you're posting?

>>54059352
I'm literally here daily, I currently hold ARKK and Chainlink.

>>54059367
You shills are so retarded that you don't even understand the multiple levels of irony of that fake portfolio.

>>54059352
>>54059364
https://www.reddit.com/user/putsRnotDaWae
This is my reddit account by the way, I came here from /r/stocks. I can't believe how right wing and conspiratorial this place is, conspiracy theories seem to correlate heavily with bearish investors.

>you don't think the market will just keep going up? What are you, some kind of commie?

>>54059339
My jogger in hominy, interest rates are at 5% and going to be double that in a year. The free money machine line only gongo up market is gone. It was cute when people were still bullish last year, really any time after the fed sold the all time top to avoid a conflict of interest (seriously they spelled it out for you that clearly) but anymore it's just frankly retarded and gross behavior. Absolute best case scenario we don't go under 3k before eoy and that's being extremely generous in the event the public doesn't rape banks with withdrawals this entire rest of the month.

>>54059402
Literally no matter what happens I will always be bullish, if you had been the worst market timer ever and bought at every peak bubble you would still end up rich decades later. The stock market is a patience game, pulling your money out is the stupidest thing you can ever do.

>>54059367
>>54059399

Give it to me straight bears, is this going to be like the GFC?

>>54059399
Those posts don't even sound remotely like you. And even if they were you, which they're not, you should go the fuck back to plebbit.

>>54059389
I fail to see the irony, ARKK is a diversified tech fund and Chainlink is by far the most important crypto asset. With these 2 holdings I cover a position in crypto and wider tech.

>>54059449
oh my fucking god

>>54059447
I'm never leaving, I'll be in /smg/ everyday to combat the bearish stupidity and right wing idiots.

>>54059459
I would tell you to remember to post your portfolio gore, but you don't actually own any stocks.

You know when they say your taxi driver is telling you tickers to buy it's a bubble?

Well when everyone and their mom is telling you it's the end of the world and sell, you should probably buy.

Too much cash and liquidity in the system, too many pajama bears in 100% cash dying for an entry.

>>54059459
Alright, I'm calling shenanigans. I refuse to believe anyone this dumb posts here. Who is it, rocker? Scoopsies? CLFTranny?

>>54059484
>Tranny
Why are you people so obsessed with trans people? Secret fetish or something? That tends to be the case with repressed right wing sexuality.

>>54059478
This fucking shill is literally copy-pasting comments from that reddit account verbatim to hide his eastern yuro ESL
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/11o0q4v/comment/jbrcgrs/

>>54059459
Baggot turn on your trip
>>54059484
Hey it's not me

>>54059484
>>54059522
It's a literal ukrainian shill. They're raiding these threads just like how they've been raiding other boards. They post pro-Biden/pro-government propaganda. He's literally copy-pasting comments from that reddit account.

>>54059513
>This guy literally browses reddit
Kek

>>54059513
Disgusting

>>54059535
I followed the link you fucking posted you retarded slav.

>>54059548
Yes, you literally browse reddit. I'm not Ukrainian I'm a white American.

>>54059424
If you automatically sell at every 10% drawdown and go to tbills for 1 quarter before buying back in you beat the virgin dcaer without having to time the market. Aths could just as easily not be seen till next quarter or for a decade like the 2000s. Shilling mindless permabull copium with current valuations, indicators and uncertainty comes across as negligent and irresponsible at best.

>>54059564
You just said you were a redditor >>54059399

>>54059565
>he thinks he can time the market
Ok retard, but every good investor advises not to do that. I'll listen to Buffett over a bearish poster on an antisemitic image board.

>>54059532
>futures

>>54059459
No one ever leaves and your false ideology will die like everyone else's.

>>54059328
Cope harder, not buying your bags. its gonna go down

>>54059574
Yes, I'm smart enough to not limit myself to one forum for finance and stock information. I had to come to this shithole, despite it being awful you need to go to different environments to get the total perspective on markets.

When the market drops, whenever that may be, what will you buy?
Commodities? Tech stocks? Healthcare stocks? SP500 etf? Something else?

>>54059592
The funding for your shill farm is going to dry up soon.

>>54059601
I support Biden and Ukraine for free. I wish I could get paid do you know who to contact for that?

>>54059608
Dig the hole deeper you fucking faggot shill.

>>54059580
>futures

>>54059578
Buffet is sitting on an all-time record high cash position rn and it has grown since this article (the top search result on google).

https://www.5paisa.com/blog/berkshire-hathaway-holds-147-billion-in-cash

>>54057999
There are shills absolutely everywhere.
Zerohedge is literally run by a disgraced Russian trader and he‘s a permabear only to fuck over the US, nothing else.
The US state department has shills and people in the policy room for most social media companies. (twitter files)
Shills are unironically fucking everywhere dude.

>>54059596
Gonna wait till bluechips have a p/e within a sane range and then load the wagon.
>>54059592
Get a total perspective on what concrete feels like on your teeth

>>54059626
He's still mostly invested, he just happens to have a bit more cash because everyones investments mooned during covid QE and he always has a small % in cash.

rate my CV

>>54059596
Seeds and bullets.

>>54059639
Repeat that in English, Ivan.

>>54055329
My bank in Brazil is panicking from the SVG meltdown, some of my friends are unironically calling for taking the money out just to be sure. Everyone expects the market to tank, will this be the first time normies are right or do we moon on monday?

Baked
>>54051404
>>54051404
>>54051404

>>54059621
what's wrong with this guy? did he shit his pants?

>>54059658
Cнид

>>54059642
>He's still mostly invested
Because he's been mostly invested for over 70 years. 20% cash is not a small %age for a 200 year old company. They've got a record cash holding because now is not a good time to buy. Buffet is not on your side.

>>54059678
This is normalfag reacting to shit thats already happening. This isn't normalfag being "right". They were already wrong. They were all perma-bulls, and had the mindset of "no matter what happens the government will save us". Well that's definitely not the case.

>>54059682
That's not /smg/

>>54059682
Real classy move there chief, you fuck your dad with that dick?

Bank employee here. Just an FYI, we typically keep less than 100k in cash, and this is a large bank in a wealthy area. Good luck withdrawing. Also, you need to order anything over like 6k ahead of time. Lol. In other news, I submitted a lowball offer on a duplex on Friday, and someone else offered above asking price and the seller accepted. Clown market

Reminder inflation dropped another 0,10% today

>>54059839
Based, powered by Chainlink.

>>54059850
Only application of chainlink I've ever seen lel. And one of the few blockchain applications I have ever seen.
Neat though

>>54059850
>scam

>>54059643
Kek
Good idea lol

Kill all hohols, trannies, and jannies. And jews, for good measure.

>>54059700
Sneed?

>>54055329
https://youtu.be/yuBe93FMiJc?t=22

This is the speech from OP's pic - watch it now, it's outstanding.

>>54059050
Mainstream news is also split. For every bear you have a Cathie Wood or Tom Lee dip slurper

>>54060062
The movie Network is over 40 years old and it is still the best movie about Mainstream Media ever made.