/biz/ - Business & Finance

Bros, 1/6 of 25% of these non-T bill cash reserves may be in danger. How will we survive?

>>54028345
The actual risk is irrelevant. It's the perceived risk that may cause disaster.
In crypto, everyone is a retard.

>>54028262
It literally just finished re-pegging.

>>54028399
Coingecko says otherwise.

>>54028262
man I thought ponzi schemes went on forever until you run out of new investors. I wonder what happened…

>>54028422
See for yourself
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=BITSTAMP%3AUSDCUSD

>>54028422.
https://www.geckoterminal.com/eth/pools/0x88e6a0c2ddd26feeb64f039a2c41296fcb3f5640?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=coingecko&utm_campaign=livechart-btn

Aggregators are usually 15+ minutes behind.

>>54028467
>https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=BITSTAMP%3AUSDCUSD
>bitstamp

>>54028364
Not for a fully backed stablecoin. Well minus their SVB exposure. If they have 5% reserves in SVB, in the like 10% chance SVB doesn't get bought or bailed out, they take a 20% haircut pessimistically, leaving them with like a 1% shortfall. Not to mention USDC generations billions in profit/year from the interest on reserves so circle's investors would likely just shore that up.

>>54028495
You can click on the pair and look at any exchange you want.

>>54028448
literally someone cashed out and gave the middle finger to all the other faggots left in the car fire

>>54028495
That said, I have no idea if it's safe to stay in USDC.

>>54028532
Yes it is you retards, it wont depeg. The value of the dollar might crash and burn but usdc will not depeg because it is an actual legitimate 1:1 collateral. That said, if the dollar crashes and youre holding usdc youre fucked too

>>54028678
It's actually .96:1 now :)

>>54028678
I love how retarded you cointards are.

>>54028496
this, im holding usdc, fuck all of you retards fuding

>>54028532
its safe, not a single fucking argument has made to convince its not safe.

>>54028703
t. illiterate

>>54028703
Pretty much impossible because SVB is probably mostly solvent.

>>54028725
Good luck!

>>54028723
>he said without contributing himself

>>54028725
>>54028743
>loyalty to a blackrock fuckin stablecoin

>all the shills itt
When biz tells me its heckin happening and this is the end I sleep. But all these nothing to see here posts make me certain its fucking over for real.

>>54028805
Coinbase is doing damage control right now

you can see the real price on curve directly
no need to wait for aggregators

>>54028833
can coinbase just die so I can retire off of my puts thanks.

>>54028723
stable

>>54028805
but OP literally made a thread telling you it's the heckin end

>>54028399
>>54028422
>>54028467
>>54028481
>>54028703

HOLY FUCK
I AM MAKING SO MUCH FUCKING MONEY LMAOOOOOOOOO
I HADN'T EVEN CHECKED THE VOLUME

>>54028867
And then the shills showed up. If this was fake, real biz anons would be using it to bait newfags into panic selling. Instead we have a bunch of shill making reddit posts about muh no argument.

T W O
B I L L Y

I feel LUNA vibes again

>>54028912
Look at the board. It's nothing but USDC spam about muh depeg.

>>54028678
But where is that collateral held? Is that institution stable during a major meltdown?

>>54028910
send some or it's fake
0x81C93FaC33390569Dbbac4773a91A6b73C4Ba1bc

>>54028864
2%. Expeditiously. Now come here and suck on mommies feminine penis.

>>54028881
It doesn't really matter because you can redeem USDC 1:1 for a dollar. For now of course. The only thing that matters is if they run out of liquid cash and have to stop redemption until their treasuries mature. Then the peg can slip in the short term but eventually you are guaranteed to be able to redeem 1 USDC for $1 its just a matter of time. If they did hold a lot in SVB and SVB is significantly underwater then it may only be 98 cents on the dollar, or w/e.

>>54028772
>>54028804
seeethe more, im not an irrational pussy like you, go ahead and explain in detail why its over without being a schizo

>>54028967
It's not instant anymore. Coinbase put in a week delay for cashing out your USDC. Which is to say, they don't intend to let you exchange it if it crashes.

>>54028964

>>54028982
7% 2 year. QT. Easy peasy.

>>54029003
Ill squeeze you with my thighs like you like it. Turn you into Grandpa Smurf looking ass while you 50 bps all over the sheets

>>54028345
USDC will become a $0.96 stablecoin.

>>54028999
You can convert instantly. If they add a delay like I said its just a matter of time. All their treasures mature in a few weeks, and maybe there is a few % stuck in SVB IF circle has a large % of its cash in SVB and IF SVB is underwater and IF SVB isn't bought out, IF SVB isn't bailed out, IF Circle backers don't cover and gap.

>>54029104
>my safeword is transitory

>>54028725
>https://www.weforum.org/organizations/circle-internet-financial
Get fucked WEF stooge

>>54028805
>/biz/
Funny how “biz” warned everyone of FTX weeks before withdrawals became disabled

>>54028937
Ok Im back from looking at the board. There is one other fucking usdc thread up right now

>>54029183

>>54029005
Elon is such a faggot

>>54029230
Meds.

>>54028982
Because line go down, Sir.

Lol they just tweeted, $3.3 bil at SVB. So this is basically a nothing burger.

>>54029547
What are USDC's total reserves? Isn't the marketcap $50b or so?

CEASE THIS AT ONCE

SELL YOUR US TREASURIES BACKING USDC YOU FUCKING KIKES AND STABILISE THE STABLE COIN RIGHT NOW

>>54028926
>volume

>>54029578
Circle’s investment is FDIC insured. The money will be paid back by next week. Jesus can you niggers calm down

>>54029608
gonna have to wait til sunday

>>54029578
about $43bil, it basically means $3.3b of that is illiquid for potentially the next couple weeks

https://twitter.com/circle/status/1634391505988206592?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Here's the tweet. $3.3B of $40B reserves still stuck at SVB.

>>54029242
Go back to plebbit you literal facist

I just arbitraged. Bought usdc at 0.95. Am I a banker now

>>54029733
You are going to make an ez 5% or get rekt, so yes.

Time to crash this fucking peg. No Survivors.

is two cents a lot of money in crypto world?

>>54030157
wot is lava ridge?

Tether only has 3% of their reserves on cash and is pumping. USDC has +90% reserves on cash and will collapse.
> Crypto is full retard

>>54029733
1 USDC IS 0.93 CENTS. NICE TRADE BRO. THE BIZ WAY

Please explain to me why a stablecoin who's sole purpose is to be pegged to the US dollar isn't 100% in cash?

Why is USDC *only* 25% cash backed? Who decided this was acceptable?

>>54030287
it's in treasury bonds "cash", maybe the bond market is exploding, how long have you been asleep?

Well I'm probably out of a job. My company held a good portion of its assets in USDC

>>54030287
Because you can't hold billions in cash, or even millions or thousands safety. Bank deposits are not cash. Its funny because the short term treasuries are actually proving to be far safer than the bank deposit "cash."

>>54030254
Because no one knows where tether has their money. Centralized banking is anti-transparency. You get punished for it. Its about blind trust and ignorant bliss.

>>54030287
stablecoins are just another grift that will be exposed by this bankrun

>>54030372
but that's where the cash in usdc is anon that's why it works, it's backed in tbills aka short term treasuries aka cash

>>54030427
Yeah USDC is fully backed in dollar denominated assets minus the 3.3 bil they have in SVB which may be anywhere from 0-100% recoverable. I'm just saying when people say "cash" they seem to include bank deposit accounts but not tbills. But tbills are ending up being far safer than banks despite not being called "cash."

>>54030474
just to add, tbills are closest thing you can get to having an account at the fed. its like a bank account at the government but you can't withdraw for a few weeks. A bank accounts with "cash" in it an IOU from the bank.

>>54030474
3.3bil is not usdc market cap tho?

>USDC can no longer be redeemed on the coinbase main site
Better take your 8% loss now by swapping than be down the whole shebang.

Made over 80k USD arbing between Poly and ETH over the last couple of hours. Problem is I'm tired as fuck but there's so much money to be made

were back usdc marines oooooo wagmi! 1$ eoy

>>54030544
What did you swap? Don't go down with the ship.

>>54030474
>>54030530
oh it's 8% so usdc under .92 is a steal?

Just shorted it by borrowing it from AAVE, thanks anon.

>>54028262
Has anybody else notices the 4chan contagion going on? Every (active) board is super cynical and depressing right now, even if they're not talking about money.

>>54030607
quarantine brain

>>54030607
>now

TRIPLE CAUTION
TRIPLE CAUTION
TRIPLE CAUTION
SAMIR YOU ARE BREAKING THE USDC
>Shuddup Vitalik

>>54030565
8% is locked up in SVB, which most likely will be recovered and probably in the worse case scenario lose like 30%. but theoretically it could be more and its liquid until the SVB stuff plays out.

but there's a bunch of people complaining about their payroll not being processed so I think the gov will speed it up.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>54030640
You're right I guess. Don't remember the last time using this site made me feel good, around 2015 I guess. Haven't had a sensible chuckle in years. I used to literally LMAO reading 4chan all night.

>>54029628
yes bro
CRV holders make money on volume

>>54030157
bro someone just swapped 2 million for 5 cents

https://twitter.com/0xfoobar/status/1634407703425560576

>>54028262
>DONT SINK
>BANK-ANGLE... BANK-ANGLE
>SINK RATE
>OVERSPEED... OVERSPEED
>PULL-UP... PULL-UP... PULL-UP
>TOO LOW - TERRAIN... TOO LOW - TERRAIN

>>54031124
That's because they tried to swap a fucking LP token through uniswap, instead of removing liquidity on curve, basically an LP of an LP with 5 cents of liquidity which they tried to trade 2mil though. lmao

>>54028262
Brought to you by BlackCock.

>Full KikeYourCustomer enabled (TM)

Okay, it's fucking over.

>>54031333
Where can I short Curve?

>>54031333
What's next? Fun stuff?

Quick fucking question. Stable coins exist to move value right? Help facilitate the transfer of your dollars in the crypto space. my questions is WHY THE FUCK DO SOME OF YOU LEAVE YOUR MONEY SITTING IN STABLE COINS. What's the point? Buy a shitcoinor cash it out

>>54031361
AAVE, borrow with USDT colletral, sell borrowed USDC for USDT

>>54028262
What speaks against a US dollar stablecoin that only holds 4-week to 13-week T-Bills?

>>54031400
I do this already and bobos told me its retarded

>>54031527
They should do that, and just have it so when you redeem you get it in 4 weeks. SVB held 10 year treasures so holding t bills would have been way safer than a bank account.

Holy KEK, binance adds USDC/USDT spot pair. You know what to do.

>>54031527
>>54031621
>usa defaults you are rugged hahahahahaha

>>54031361
please short CRV with everything you have

>>54031615
Only ~%1 of traders makes money, wonder why...

>>54028262
I know there’s an anon that’s long term shorting USDT. Was he also shorting USDC? If so, what a Chad

>>54031654
You'll see war before a default ever happens, sperg.

>>54031654
If the usa defaults then the dollar is worthless no matter where you hold it.

>>54031639
So they're buying up the cheap USDC to arbitrage

>>54031702
Maybe CZ's worried about a shitstorm if USDC loses peg.

>>54031702
>Cheap USDC

KEK, stay poor

>>54031654
No point in offering a USD stablecoin if the entire US monetary system has collapsed, numbnuts.

>>54031736
USDC already lost peg. To get back the peg they need to regain control of that 3.3 billion.

>>54031736
>USDC is about to depeg
>Banks starts to fail one or another
>Coinbase stops people from Trading USDC to USD
>Binance adds pair

Which means CZ believes USDC will depeg completely and he adds pair to prove it, otherwise crooked Coinbase and others will tell you it's $1 while they are insolvent as fuck. When CZ makes up his mind, it's decided. Sell everything to short USDC to make it.

>>54029242
You've been brainwashed by the mainstream media yo

>>54028262
silvergate and signature also
3 out of 6 are fucked

>>54031762
>>54031867
They dodged silvergate, and they got hit by SVB because their wires yesterday never went though. They are probably out of signature by now given this shitshow.

>>54028262
y'all know this shits gonna repeg by next week

>>54031825
Elon is a faggot though. You've been brainwashed into thinking he's not a faggot purely because libs turned on him. He was always a faggot when they liked him and he's a faggot now too.

Holy fuck these candles are volatile AF

>>54031983
If it doesn't repeg by monday, it's going to be a mass self off to coinbase.

Fuck that's tough.... onto RAI I guess

>>54031808
>he adds pair to prove it
Brainlet here. How does the pair prove this?

>>54030530
This video was sponsored by yet another gobohomo loving troon toucher of underage butthole

>>54028262

Bruh. When they say shit is normal it ain't normal.

I'm more worried for USDC. All DAI need to do is rebalance, but it needs to do it quick. Governance has to be smooth. They should rebalance into FRAX or RAI.

>>54028262
Silicon valley fucks up everything, they're more retarded that people from alabama

>>54030287
the tbills are safer than cash

>>54032225
When other big players suspends trading/withdrawals, they are just postponing what's inevitable. They are doing it because they probably have own stakes/shares and buying themselves some time. They can even say that USDC is equals to $1 on their dashboards, trading screens, and retail wouldn't even know until it's too late. By adding pair, Binance will show what's the real value of it.

>>54032186
Crypto likey would not exist without Silicon Valley.

Is USDC going to 0 or just to 0.90? will it recover at least to 96 ? I saw the threads back when it was 0.995 , but I thought it was just going to spike a little and then recover, I went to sleep too early.

I have too many emotions right now to do a logical decision, what should I do? I have USDC on Polygon, I'm checking to see if it maintained 1$ , maybe I can switch it to Matic on Kraken and then finally there keep it in real Euro even if it's centralized. Honestly I should just take the Euro out in physical cash even if the government is going to want their taxes on it.

I can't fucking believe Tether > USDC right now. Any hope USDC will reach 1:1 with Tether if I wait 3-7 days or best I sell for real Euro now? I mean I saw when BTC did that crash to 16k in the summer that USDC had also fell to like 0.96 or something but it recovered. Is it the same thing now?

HOLY FUCK

>>54032484
I don't see why it wouldn't recover given how well capitalized Square is but at the same time I'm not fucking touching it when the upside is 10% and the downside is 100% UST baggies literally roped themselves by "buying before the repeg"

>>54032388
Not disputing that? I think you meant to quote someone else

XRP schizos, where the fuck you at?? It is our time now BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>54032484
That's entirely dependent on Circle or how Maker governance responds. Not many people talking about Maker ITT for some reason.

DAI is poorly designed, it need to diversify.

>>54028262
I always thought usdc was better than tether. However tether always manages to brave every storm.

>>54032484
>even if it's centralized

usdc is centralized you midwit

>>54032566
Waiting for the entire system to lock up and freeze. They will beg for a Solution and XRP is the Icebreaker.

>>54032653
Go to your containment thread

Wew lads good thing i checked /biz/ before I went to bed. I feel for the USDC meme sometime back during the tether fud, just lost about $8k from this but I'm safe now.

what's the mechanism for this going to 0
I don't see it barring a truly apocalyptic liquidity crisis across the entire crypto space and even then I don't understand how it drops below .90

All crypto down 90% within a week

>>54032388
How? Big tech had nothing to do with crypto newfag

Uh oh

>>54030066

WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>54031230
kek

where were you when USDC was kill

>>54033470
Laughing my ass off in my seat st 2:16am

>>54028262
You mean transforming it to BTC. Which is very very bullish

HOLD THE LINE USDC MARINES

>>54032567
Why is DAI depegging though? Fear?

Why is the price so different on every exchange? I have a bit of USDC on MetaMask and I’m down way more than I would be if I were holding it on KuCoin or any other big exchange by my calculations.

>>54033506
No idea, but USDD is depegging too.

>>54033500
BTC is dumping alongside USDC actually

>>54033506
DAI has a big collateral on usdc, but it's overcollateralized so it's fine unless usdc hits less than 40 cents per usd

>instead of pegging the US dollar, USDC is going to peg its users

>>54033541
kek

>>54033536
I don't know what to make of USDC. They have enough (or almost enough now) collateral, don't they? I guess collateral doesn't matter vs a panic?

buy USDC for free gains you stupid niggers

On average USDC is probably worth about 80c, but realistically they have to redeem at a dollar for the first 80% and then at zero for the last 20%

>>54033620
>please buy my bags
fuck off retard

>>54033470
After a few months of waiting, I was finally about to buy something with DAI. fuck this shitshow, never touching stables again. The funny thing is, that DAI is leftover from the Bancor disaster, I guess this money just had to disappear completely.

>>54033620
Dude it's fucking over, which is weird cause this shit was suppose to be backed by real $$$ , but of course the Silicon Valley banks went to shit somehow. Still not sure why Tether is still standing when it's confirmed only 3% backed meanwhile USDC is suppose to all be real dollaridos.

>>54033679
How do I become part of the 80% ?

>>54033601
Coinbase disallowed USDC=$1 exchanges (hopefully temporarily), so that might be fucking up the peg.

Hmm

>>54033683
I only have bitcoins

>>54033711
You margin short it on binance when the pair is enabled

>>54028496
>Not to mention USDC generations billions in profit/year from the interest

LOOOL yeah, I hear the same with Sam Bankman-Fried FTX. "Yeah we have profits to cover all these, your crypto is safe in FTX" Until you open the toilet seat and it's full of crap

>>54033713
I know Binance and a small leaf exchange also disabled USDC trading pairs. Dunno about other exchanges.

>>54033713
This restores confidence in the investor.

>>54033711
>this shit was suppose to be
>is suppose to all be
There's your anwser anon - these cunts made claims that were disproven when reality hit

>>54033726
Difference is that USDC holds US treasury bonds for their revenue and if that shit rugs then you have bigger problems than your grypto

>>54033738
Circle shill spotted.

Binance doesn't trade shitcoins like USDC.

Until today

Even circle liquidate all of their assets to keep at $1 (which is impossible) they will be $3B short. So gonna keep my short until it hits $0.1.

>>54033771
What are you talking about? I've traded USDC many times on Binance in the past

>>54033821

they delisted all usdc pairs 6-12 months ago and only relisted usdc/usdt TODAY

>>54028262
there's 40b USDC backed by $36.7b. circle says 25% of their reserves are in cash, and $3.3b of that was with sivb, so that is $10b - $3.3b = $6.7b in liquid cash best cash scenario.
to regain the peg they need to match their liabilities to their assets. they can do this by buying usdc on the open market with cash and burning it.
if they can rebuy ~6.6b USDC for $3.3b (average price 50c on the dollar) this would even out the assets and liabilities.
of course this requires a shit load of liquidity in that price range, else they will push the price back up, requiring them to buy even more to repeg.
if they can buy at 66c, then they need to spend about $7b. at 90c they need $30b.
either they recover the missing collateral, or confidence repegs it and they go about with undercollateralized usdc, or they repeg by reducing their liability. first two seem unlikely. third is possible only if price dumps much more, and at that point it could be too late. but if they do it, then there isn't much reason for it not to repeg (since they will have enough collateral to cover the lesser liability).
could be a good trade.

>>54033942
Why are they relisting it?

>>54033980

Check:
>>54031808

>>54033980
So we can short the fuck out of it and watch it burn

>>54034001
I don't get why this is necessary. I mean, you go on coingecko and it shows it as depegged, dexes and every other exchange shows it as depegged. Will a Binance trading pair really make any difference?

> tfw no generational wealth

>>54033536
>fine unless usdc hits less than 40 cents per usd
What happens when usdc goes .39?

>>54034051
Dexes and AMMS are part of the short thesis lol

>>54028262
No fucking way

>>54034197
Can you explain it to me like I'm a fetal alcohol syndrome sufferer?

>>54034096
>usdc gets dumped for dai
>dai gets burned
>dai repegs
simple as

>>54028262
PULL UP PULL UP
>WHOOP WHOOP
PULL UP PULL UP
>WHOOP WHOOP

>>54031808
Can you even short stablecoin pairs? I never shorted anything before but this seems really promising

>>54034364

You can short it via AAVE
>>54030584

>>54034224
The equations driving AMMs are likely to assume $1 USDC = $1 USD.
Probably bots and DEX contracts running on the same assumption.

A lot of shit is gonna break if you wake up tomorrow and find 10% of your entire net worth gone.

>>54033750
>trusting anything in the legacy banking system
Honestly, something backed by air is more substantial than the promises of US gov. affiliated private institutions at this point. It's one big collective illusion and it's designed to break eventually.
I know my point may even be moot, as you're forced to trust someone sometimes in this world, but elieve me when I say the faceless ones are not to be trusted at all. AT ALL.
I live with the mindset that any moment the numbers on my screen may dissapear and I find myself in peace in the present once again. It might even be for the best that way. as long I learn from it.

>>54034464
You figure money will flow into "safe" cryptos like BTC and ETH or just exit the market entirely?

>>54034375
Thanks mate

>fake depeg crisis because people are overreacting to temporary liquidity problem
easy money. stacking USDC

>>54034375
You can also trade it with 10x leverage on KuCoin which is one of the liquid exchanges surviving the 2018 winter.

When the fuckkkk is it repegging

>>54028931
Luna was an algorithmic stable coin. USDC is backed. know the difference

>>54034509
>FTX, the exchange shilling crypto to you at the Superbowl, turns out to be a bankrupt scam stealing money for it's losing hedge fund

>SILICON VALLEY BANK, the CRYPTO BANK, is also a bankrupt scam that is the reason you don't get paid now or for the foreseeable future

>CIRCLE, the CRYPTO THAT JUST TELLS YOU $1=$1, is a bankrupt scam

Does this increase or decrease investor appetite for crypto?

>>54034566
So why is it dumping a lot lower than it should?

>>54034591
Prove to me what it "should" be and why

>>54034585
What does that have to do with BTC? You’re going to feel like a moron when you wake up tomorrow and BTC is pumping

>>54034585
Fair enough. Crypto really does seem to be losing that perception that it's more than thin air.

>>54028496
You don't know shit about the details of their treasuries.
Right now they have a 7% hole in their reserve and people who gave them money are probably calling them to get their shit out now.
I find it hilarious any of you are still naive and complacent enough to say it's going to be alright when you're completely in the dark and when Terra and FTX happened just last year.

>>54034585
Nothing to do with BTC/eth

This is horny bull semen. So bullish

>>54034619
This

You can see everything on chain, coinbase sent them 2B after they shut down trading for you guys. In a way they locked you up so you can't sell, and sold before you.

>>54034611
I took the fucking blindingly obvious short at $25K and covered enough already.

When did I ever talk about a position on anything other than USDC / USDT?

>>54034683
That’s what the anons question that you answered was. You silly ass nigga

>>54034708
The money is already gone.
It was in something called SVB yesterday.
Today SVB does not exist.

>>54028496
If you believed this you'd buy up USDC for a 10% profit. But you won't, you're just a bag holder coping

Lmao, and you faggots kept fudding BUSD
My funds are safu

>>54034753
There's no bigger sign of not having traded the 2017-2018 market (and survived) than trying to spread FUD on Binance.

Binance literally is the liquidity that defines crypto.
CZ bankrupted Scamman Fried and some of his biggest rivals with a single tweet while making money doing it.

>>54034851
This. The same goes for Tether. Bitcoin is valued in terms of Tether and all the liquidity and trading volume is on Binance. CHINKS WIN AGAIN JEWS LOSE AGAIN.

>>54034851
CZ is slurping up Coinbase's Bitcoin right now.

Look at the volatility in Bitcoin

What people don't realize is the government want to release digital USD and USDC goes against their interests. This collapse of USDC provides an opportunity to get rid of the competition so the public won't get confused by the two and in this regard the government will do their utmost to deny any support for Circle

Went into AMPL. A long forgotten form of stable coin awaiting a day like this.

>stablecoin
>not stable
>pegged to the usd
>not pegged to the usd
remind me what the point of these is again

>>54035882
low iq has posted

>>54035894

>>54031639
Jesus, CZ is going to make billion tonight frontrunning these transactions. Who introduces a financial instrument during a crisis and drops it on Twitter? A FUCKING GAMBLOR KING OF GAMBLING, THAT'S WHO!

I can hardly imagine how much stress is spreading among stablecoin managers and custodians at the moment.

>>54035996
Why are so many falling? Are they all backed by USDC?

>>54034492
Eventually you mean design to break all the time every time

>>54035882
It’s even worse when you consider USDC was the ‘safest’ one given the collateral circle claimed to have. The Jews and their fractional reserves really have got to go

>>54032484
Retard eur is backed by USD its a shitcoin like usdc but worse
Take btc and eth into cold wallet

>>54035996
Meanwhile AMPL unphased.

>The collapse came after SVB said it was trying to raise $2.25bn (£1.9bn) to plug a loss caused by the sale of assets, mainly US government bonds, which had been affected by higher interest rates.
If SVB which has 200bln in assets collapsed over 2bln deficit then how is Circle going to recover 2bln cash reserves in their SBV account, they are not going to get that money.

>>54036399
Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up
No no no no no no no
Stop asking questions goy

Not my problem

>t. Holding BUSD

I still don't understand how this is anything than a nothingburger.

>>54035996
Lmao

Based usdt

Should I take the haircut bros? I have $85k in USDC and now $77k in real value.

>>54028967
>guaranteed
give that to me in writing

>>54028703
they are earning 5% interest on their collateral, it won't really matter unless other banks default as well

>>54034672

WOW

>>54031389
it only makes sense for guys in places like argentina or turkey who want to hold USD

>>54031689
most guys doing that are long usdc / short usdt lmao

Will be interesting to see if a bank-run on a fully-collateralized stablecoin can cause it to collapse. If people waited some time then Circle would've been able to recover the $4bn hole through their other income.

Still irrational.
The hole isn't even $3.3bn

>>54034672
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

>>54036577
when do you need to access this $? long term USDC will be (probably) bemade whole. short term, uhoh

>>54037733
Circle can just buy and burn USDC if it drops under the amount they have collateralised, they are making a massive profit doing this right now

>>54028262
Maybe just maybe you should watch this before you decide to sell.

>>54038091
>USDC will be (probably) bemade whole

>>54036577
77k and decreasing by 10% every day from now until 0.000001 and trading is stopped pairs delisted
It really is like usd just faster

>>54028678

>>54038137
agree, it may not even be that big of a deal, if you sell you lose if you hold you lose slightly more. and what will you do once it recovers?. i think the best course of action right now is buying a rope.

Reminder
Any USDC can be blocked frozen and stolen by Circle and their jew friends
They did it before and theyll do it again

Anyone who held usdc deserves to get rekt and become a literal slave

>>54028399
It's still 90c

>>54038525
My thesis was they'd run CBDC on the back of USDC and therefore they'd kill Tether/Crypto on the way. USDC as kind of a crypto that was 'safe' for fiat-biased ppl.
Maybe they see the SPY crash happening before that can take place and therefore are happy to burn USDC and onramps to create a moat between crypto assets and fiat assets, so normies can't pivot UNTIL a CBDC is available.

>>54038633
They would rather burn both usdc and usd and their own house down indeed set fire to entire world, than see the CZhinks raise petrojuan
Ironic isnt it same day Saudis and Iran make peace, usd financial meltdown initiated
Shouldnt have fucked with the yellow man mutts

>>54028931
That's why DiD management project should be considered.

>>54030667
kek

>>54038117
I had to run that simulation in my head to understand it.
>Goy gives Circle $1 and receives 1 token worth $((1)) in return.
>Token becomes worth $0.9
>Circle pays Goy $0.9 for the token, and keeps the $0.1 profit
This is so jewish I didn't think of it. Lmao. Fuck those guys, it should be illegal.

>>54038633
The only cbdc on an ETH chain is the nigerian horror show and that has turned out to be such a terrible experience it increased cash usage rates among the population. There is a snowball's chance in hell of ETH ever being used again which is why the whole network is being rugged.
>XRP is the chosen coin. Get in now while you still can.

>>54035996
>Dai
Uh oh. That one will hurt erc20s pretty badly.

>>54038861
It never had true capitalization. I would be willing to bet they had less than 10% USD coverage for USDC. Most of it was probably shitcoin swaps FTX style. Which means they aren't making money buying back at a .1 discount. They are just brokering and hoping to burn part of their supply to make themselves appear more stable while desperately praying that the US government bails them out '08 style.
>Which won't happen because ETH has been slated for destruction.
>tl;dr don't bet against the house when the USD is on the table.

>>54038950
Most of the coverage is in US treasuries that they can’t sell.

What do you call this pattern?

>>54038983
SVB =/= USDC
>I don't believe that circle has the reserves it claims. I think its books were cooked like SBF did and I highly doubt they actually have any tbills which haven't been borrowed against or leveraged against for the ETH shitcoin casino.

>>54038950
If it's in short dated treasuries they should be sitting on any losses right?

>>54038983
Short term treasures which they definitely can sell with almost no losses, or just wait a few weeks to maturity. <92 cents is free money territory. The worse case scenario is them losing maybe 25% on their SVB holdings, so if you can wait a few months then anything less than 98 cents is free money.

>>54039023
Yeah it would be like a 0.1% loss, but they could also just not redeem and wait a few weeks for maturity.

>>54028262
buy dai, it's collateralized with ETH!

>>54038994
eth bros burning up their powder

>>54039066
The fact DAI is depegged shows the panic here. Even if its backed partly by USDC the liquidation mechanism could keep DAI pegged. Very irrational to sell DAI at such a massive cut.

>>54039088
>>54039066
dai has 40% usdc as collateral, retard

>>54033718
BTC is the best hold rn but I think web3 projects like ENS ORE EGLD stands a better chance to get bags filled.

>>54039095
And? Do you know how dia works, retard? Its not pegged 1:1 with USDC but collateralized by the market value of USDC, USDC depeg doesn't necessarily mean DAI isn't backed, just like if ETH drops in price, DAI doesn't depeg.

>>54036066
lol, yes exactly

>>54031364
Just use bitcoin

>>54028262
You can always go back in, trust me its still very cheap at the current price or just go long term on DiD projects.

>>54039321
No reason to yet. If you plan on buying, do it Sunday night. If coinbase actually lets you sell one-for-one on Monday, it'll return to a dollar. If not, it crashes.

>>54038994
>What do you call this pattern?
That's a bazingdon triple invert if ever I saw one right there

>>54034523
How is this not the play? However, at these prices, a +10% upside doesn't seem like enough for me (one who only invests meager sums) to get excited.

>>54038945
>not "funds are safu"
Way to instill confidence, CZ.

>>54028833
i only have like 100 bucks in usdc but right now i can't sell on cb, not even here to fud

>>54039023
I'm selling it off. I can't stand this again.

>>54028364
Could be massive money too. If people panic with no fundamental reasoning then it will be temporary. Someone will scoop that shit up for a discount and laugh when it evens back out.

But you already know that because that's probably what you're trying to do lol. Fucking kike.

>>54041308
Are you quitting? Web3 DiD coins will do far better. Look at EGLD, ORE and ENS

Nothing is stable

>>54028262
Sell it for BTC. The real digital coin.

And after you sell read my next line:

Vitalik buterin is buying usdc 500k

I got 87k in USDC.
"Meh"
Who cares.

>>54028262
Op has no USDC he's just a bobotrannie

>>54041352
3 “coins” that have provided zero real-world value other than ponzinomics. Shut the fuck up

>>54041427
Vitalik has a lot to lose if big corporations get scared of crypto and leave. He needs USDC to succeed. Doesn't mean it will.

>>54041131
People get excited about 10% yearly interest. This is 10% interest over a weekend.

>>54041352
Good to see how self custody protocol is now recognised. Cheers to DiD management

someone made 20% on this shitcoin
with size

>>54041446
Similar amount. Similar feeling desu.

>>54035996
For years there was so much FUD about USDT being the risky one that was doomed to fall. How did this happen?

>>54044000
USDT is objectively more risky than USDC though. Its just that you have no fucking clue if USDT has been affected by bank failures. With USDC you know exactly their exposure, but panic sellers would rather stick their head in the ground with USDT and live in blissful ignorance.

>>54044066
USDT to 100% has assets outside of US and probably in Yuan and RUB and with 110% certainity in Chinese real estate like Evergrande and Italian mafia insurance companies
While USDC marketed itself as US regulated and US assets banked only

Guess which one is today more stable and financially sound

>>54032598
Basic anti-fragility. Tether gets attacked constantly so they have to constantly respond and they got good at it. They're more nimble. Meanwhile USDC got fat and lazy because everyone thought it was good, meanwhile they were out having unprotected homosex in san francisco bath-houses and now they've got the HIV. What a shock.