/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>53978580
Anybody know if the crusader pepe will fit in a gold maple capsule?

the cheapies have only just begun, and this is a good thing

where can I buy brittnigga
I must know
for reasons

>>53978618
>my first silver arrived yesterday
>price immediately tanks

Haven’t cleaned it. Looks like this close up. Thing the other pic was just dark

>>53978622
Same, I boughted yesterday. It dropped today so I boughted today as well. Your smooth brain is the problem.

>>53978631
i have no money to buy more kek plan on getting a tube of brittanias on payday though

>>53978622
lol, just keep stacking. You'll get used to it.

>>53978635
Awesome. I've exhausted my budget as of today and I'll have to wait till next month too.

Mummy found an 18k ring given to my dad by his ex. Dad dad is now generously gifting it to me.
It’s supposed to be a dragon but I can’t really make out where its face is.

>>53978620
https://www.royalmint.com/britannia/2021-britannia-coins/premium-exclusive/?utm_source=RakutenMarketing&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=2116208:Skimlinks.com&utm_content=10:1&utm_term=UKNetwork&ranMID=37343&ranEAID=TnL5HPStwNw&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-5OoqID00BLq43hG0lZVAug

Think they all sold out m8. Best bet is secondary market, unless you have £70000 and get the 1kg gold one made for you specifically at request.

>>53978622
well if it makes you feel any better i have a few hundred ounces bought over the past couple of years almost all when the price was higher than now

>>53978620
Seen a few on eBay for about £65 (and up)for the silver versions. 2021 black Britannia is what I searched for.

>>53978669
>>53978647
maybe one day
gotta buck break it baka

>>53978706
Do you have the gold liberty version? I understand it’s cheaper as no one wants it.

>>53978712
i don’t but idk it doesn’t hit my primal brain the same but maybe…….hmmmm

>>53978644
what did you buy?

>>53978781
2 100g rounds yesterday. I boughted a kilo bar today.

>>53978800
you did the needful, sir.
I enjoyed looking at this mint's products a while ago. I really like the 'note' format

rip some seller who was doing silver super cheap on the silver forum is getting banned because the sellers who have been there longer are seething about being undercut
>>53978800
nice

$5000 per ounce

>>53978884
what forum

>>53978919
the silver forum

>>53978884
How cheap we talking? Cos I’m seeing £23/24 for new Britannias on some websites.

>>53978609
They come in capsules

>>53979008
20.80 for preorder he had some others for 22.80 when buying a full tube

>>53978832
They have the cheapest too. MMTC-PAMP has the prettiest designs IMO and they cost more.

The Price of Time
(Edward Chancellor)

>>53979218
people say you (or the guy whos pic you reposted) are a tungsten larper but I really hope theres some galaxy brained anon with 10 kilos of gold just sitting out in his bedroom somewhere

>>53979218
The Dinna of Ninna
(Brass Man)

>>53979176
That’s pretty good. I would have picked some up for that. I want to grab another 40 or so

>>53979287
how many you got so far?

>>53979294
Britannias? Maybe 8. Oz in general 60 something. So need a few more for that 100 suicide stack.

>>53978647
this has got to be one of the strangest written walking on eggshell articles i've ever read.

I bought some more foreign junk silver under melt. Upon closer inspection it's all fake AGAIN. Why does this keep happening pmg bros? Will I ever take your advice?

>>53979373
sui stack is 1000oz

>>53979454
Orly? I’ll go back and read it. Should be funny. The sun is garbage and they’ll probs be “yeah she’s black and we hate it but we can’t say so directly”

>>53979506
oh no, think more eggs shells to not piss off the chimps and loyal boomers who never bought this shit in the first place at the same time.

>>53979494
I bought two forks, realized I had no right trying to scalp sterling, and have never tried again since. They now sit with my wife’s heirloom sterling dinnerware as a reminder to my retardation.

Stick to bullion, bro. The scrapchads are on another level of autism.

>>53978647
Yeah we burgers have a nigger gold coin but it sold terribly and we don’t have a fucking lgbt BLM 50 years of pride coin available on our government’s mint website.

FUCK THE QUEEN. FUCK CHUCK. KRUGERCHADS FOREVER.

Bros, anyone with more than 50% in pm?

>>53979695
50% as in our overall portfolio? My shitbox was 42k and will be closer to 142k by the time I’m done with it so my 1:500 ratio is what 20ish percent?

>>53979218
Anon, is that really brass? Please tell me you are an actual rich man. I'll believe you. If you are really rich, you should be helping us retards.

>>53979232
>I really hope theres some galaxy brained anon with 10 kilos of gold

Including his Britannias I think he's at around 12kg. His story is that he leveraged to the hilt, went full-retard into shitcoins in 2018/19 and got himself a 100x, then hooked up with other whales to manipulate markets and sucker in bagholders and started yield-farming for fat daily gains. An impressive combination of luck, skill and early-bird timing allowed him to win big instead of getting eviscerated like the vast majority of people who dabbled in shitcoins. He hasn't talked about farming since all those platforms rugged and went bust and anyone who followed his advice when he shared it here would have gone bankrupt so I suspect he got burned a bit too, but he is still sitting comfy. Anons found matching fake kilo bars on Alibaba and deduced that he's just a larper posting brass, but I've seen enough to believe he actually does have a dragonstack of gold.

>>53979529
Oh, I thought I’d posted an article from the news. I posted the royal mint. Yeah I see what you mean. “We change stuff all the time, so this is good for inclusivity etc”>>53979498
Nooo, I’ll kill myself instead. 1000 Sui would be impossible for me.

>>53979709
Anon, I might have made a couple of boneheaded decisions, I ended up with 60% of my portfolio with pms. Oh god, I have to buy some stocks and have some cash.

>>53979695
Close. I bought a monster box of eagles in 2020 for $22 per oz. Eagles are at $32 on JM right now. I can sell them on Craigslist for $30 pretty easily. That’s nearly 36% gain. Not too shabby for silver which has only gone up 8% since I bought. Eagles came through for me.

>>53979695
>>53979828
Ha. I see you were talking about portfolio allocation.

>>53979828
That's numsmatics for you.

the real red pill is you can buy collectible old coins right now at auction and then sell them the next day for a 100% gain or more, if you know what you're doing.

most of those coins won't even be silver or gold. Just pure numismatics.

>>53979695
I'm pretty close to 50%. I have some minimum thresholds I want to hit for PMs before I start acquiring other assets.

>>53979871
BU eagles are not numismatic. If you call them numismatics, you have to call maples, Brit’s, etc numismatics. You would be wrong.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302044703064?hash=item4653446958:g:IsMAAOSwv~hj9Rgj&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoJ1iRDK1Zb%2BmzSGYQqVNY9k8hfs8y9ZC3aM4UllrwSUO2sybxuLsdQotaBFu2XwJ%2FlfFzecXxq0mJvcp4ZEfsZ47YcCBEqJKS1GMGOi14Eo1bMV2aVBGM2HnG2qnOM3EbbU%2BWHkffY5AOHkyp8oQsR0S2wpM6Q80GEzVBT8UNi2QFlrhx0KlgfeKcO2eLmtjx0bb4uTEf%2FIEjPu7a9DOBJQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR67mppjYYQ

cheaper than spot?! and no i wont shorten link

>>53979773
Cash I can agree with so you have a nest egg to burn through if an unforeseen expense comes up but I won’t touch stocks of any kind until there is some kind of deflation of the fiat printer powered charts we’ve seen explode since 2020. All of this shit is artificial and propped up. PMs, land, guns, and food are the only things worth buying right now.

>>53979891
if the price goes up significantly faster than spot, they're not selling for bullion prices.

what do you propose we call the difference between spot price and sale price in coins?

>>53979695
>>53979709
>>53979828
>>53979888
>Not being 90+% by now

>>53979905
Look up what a numismatic coin is. Your standard eagle or maple or Brit or krug doesn’t fit the definition unless you realllllly stretch the meaning. Eagles and to a lesser extent, maples have higher premiums today because they are in such high demand.

>>53979737
>he does have
no, he doesnt. the britannias were faker than fuck which is why he wouldnt post close ups . also these photos might not even be him but another user just reposting shit.

sorry, pmg is full of poor fuckers (and i have one of the larger stacks ftom what i can tell of whats posted). if anyone actually "made it" i doubt they would be flexing on the poors here

>>53979943
>Eagles and to a lesser extent, maples have higher premiums today because they are in such high demand.
in the world of coin collecting, we call this "numismatic value."

I agree that modern bullion rounds are the shittiest of numismatic items, but they ARE numismatic items.

>>53979899
Stupid faggot, everything after the first `?` is not required. This is the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302044703064

>>53979905
>difference between spot and real price
premium. its called a premium

>>53979905
It’s the “cost of owning”. “Cost of physical delivery”. We call it a premium. It has nothing to do with the mint mark or history or rarity, date etc. it’s just the price associated with owning the physical coin.

>>53979737
>Including his Britannias I think he's at around 12kg. His story is that he leveraged to the hilt, went full-retard into shitcoins in 2018/19 and got himself a 100x, then hooked up with other whales to manipulate markets and sucker in bagholders and started yield-farming for fat daily gains. An impressive combination of luck, skill and early-bird timing allowed him to win big instead of getting eviscerated like the vast majority of people who dabbled in shitcoins. He hasn't talked about farming since all those platforms rugged and went bust and anyone who followed his advice when he shared it here would have gone bankrupt so I suspect he got burned a bit too, but he is still sitting comfy. Anons found matching fake kilo bars on Alibaba and deduced that he's just a larper posting brass, but I've seen enough to believe he actually does have a dragonstack of gold.


Ty, sir, this story makes me sound pretty cool but just for accuracy (in case anyone attempts to follow in my footsteps) some specific corrections:

> I didn't use any leverage at all and I don't recommend it for most people. Shitcoins are quite volatile enough and way safer. I encourage VERY careful consideration of plays, so that the chance of success is as near to 100% as possible, over your timeframe.

> I've never had anything like enough to be able to "manipulate markets", kek. It's not necessary, anyway - things are quite predictable over long enough timeframes; others can do the manipulation for you.

> The yield farming days were just a few months at the end of the cycle, not a big part of the main story. I still have a decent amount in that sort of thing, though. It's a nice bonus but in the end asset appreciation is the key.

> le alibaba screenshot was openly and crudely faked using the exact picture of the bars from the dealer's website, numerous glaring errors, etc. No link ever produced. Just part of the "banter" ¬_¬

>>53979963
https://www.ebay.com/itm/302044703064?hash=item4653446958:g:IsMAAOSwv~hj9Rgj&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoJ1iRDK1Zb%2BmzSGYQqVNY9k8hfs8y9ZC3aM4UllrwSUO2sybxuLsdQotaBFu2XwJ%2FlfFzecXxq0mJvcp4ZEfsZ47YcCBEqJKS1GMGOi14Eo1bMV2aVBGM2HnG2qnOM3EbbU%2BWHkffY5AOHkyp8oQsR0S2wpM6Q80GEzVBT8UNi2QFlrhx0KlgfeKcO2eLmtjx0bb4uTEf%2FIEjPu7a9DOBJQ%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR67mppjYYQ

like this??

>>53979961
They don’t fit the definition. They can have numismatic value. But your standard tube of eagles does not. It’s all about supply/ demand when it comes to the premium.

>>53979981
if that were true, the premium would be the same for bars, coins, and scrap.

in fact the coin is in higher demand so the "premium" is higher than in other coins. This is basically the definition of numismatic value.

>>53979982
>>53979995
see
>>53979999


the numismatic value of modern eagles is low compared to morgan dollars, but it's still numismatic value.

>>53979999
You’re a moron. ALL physical silver sells above spot. So you’re saying ALL silver is numismatic? Just stop.

>>53979999
Supply/demand plays the role on the physical premium. It has nothing to do with numismatic factors.

>>53979999
>premium is the difference between real price dealer charges and the melt value for any product

i dont know what youre referring to but the above is the strict definition. premiums differ from dealee to product

>he started yet another fruitless argument with eagle-funder-gaudens-premium-eggnigger instead of ignoring him

>>53980043
This exactly. It’s the cost of owning the physical silver. Saying a standard maple is a numismatic coin is stupid.

>>53979933
I believe at some point this will be the trade of a lifetime. But while we all wait I want to try and vacuum up some tendies to afford more PMs. Chasing aftermoon shots is worth it instead of spending my wagie check.

>>53979901
I was hoping I'd get by with some gold and silver ETF that I can convert to cash anytime. But having actual cash might not be a bad option. Land is too expensive where I live. So, its the same for house. No gunz allowed in my flaming faggot of a country.

>>53980053
its numisimatic if you collect them or get it graded. numisists are literally coin collectors

if its a coin and you collect it then its numismatics.

>>53980020
> a numismatic coin is a coin whose value or price depends more on its date, condition, rarity value, connection to history, aesthetic attraction and mint mark of the coin, than its face value or silver content.

You can stretch the definition to include all coins but that would be stupid.

>>53980026
>>53980039
>>53980043
>>53980053
all coins are numismatic coins. Any coin you buy and collect is numismatic.

the premium as you call it can also be numismatic in nature. It depends why people pay it. If people are paying a higher premium for eagles when other silver coins are available, that is a numismatic value.

>>53980090
See >>53980087
The eagle or maple premium is about supply/demand. Not numismatic factors.

>>53980087
>You can stretch the definition to include all coins but that would be stupid.
every single numismatist in the word does.

I'm a coin dealer. I'm advising you not just that you are a numismatist, but also that the increase in the value of your eagles over spot, and over the premiums of other coins, is numismatic.

>>53980107
>The eagle or maple premium is about supply/demand. Not numismatic factors.
numismatic factors are literally supply/demand

>reminder that eagle-funder-gaudens-premium-eggnigger has NEVER ONCE posted his stack

>>53980110
Supply/demand on its own is not a numismatic factor.

>>53980082
ETFs are a gamble, my guy. If you don’t hold it you don’t own it.

>>53980123
No it isn’t. Supply/demand set the price. But on its own is not a numismatic factor

>>53980135
correct.

supply and demand in any coin or perhaps bar is a numismatic factor. The entire price basis of numismatics is supply and demand. Coins go up on value because people want them and they're rare.

silver doesn't do this. and even if it did, it's not necessarily a coin so it isn't described as numismatic value.

>>53979933
Everything I’m doing right now is to become a dragon with 90% PMs guarded by a shitload of ammunition on fertile land so I can buy goblins for fruit and vegetables and save my mercs.

>>53980150
in coins, supply and demand is described as numismatic value. Also sometimes in things like bars and collectible tokens or medals.

>>53980146
Same for cash right? Do we even own land? Thinking just gives me big sads.

>>53980150
if supply and demand set the price of the silver, that is NOT numismatic value. That's intrinsic value.

if supply and demand vary between different coins, that is numismatic value.

I hope this helps.

>>53980175
No. A rare coin of a special date/mint mark has high demand and low supply. The supply and demand set the price. But the supply/ demand doesn’t give it its numismatic value. The date and mint mark does. Understand now?

>>53980198
See>>53980211

>>53980198
I hope you realize that retard is going to sidestep everything you've just explained and go on another asinine "I'm right you're wrong" spree despite your agency over his

>>53980211
>But the supply/ demand doesn’t give it its numismatic value. The date and mint mark does.
these are the same thing.

if we found 5 billion more of that coin with that date and mint mark tucked away in the closet, the value would crash, because supply and demand give it the value, not the date and mint mark.

>>53980222
I find it amusing how hard the coin collectors of /pmg/ work to deny they collect coins.

>>53980250
>I find it amusing how hard the coin collectors of /pmg/ work to deny they collect coins.

kek

>>53980235
Because it wouldn’t be rare anymore. The demand may still keep its value if high enough. Understand? Also keep in mind that Not all rare items have demand.

>>53979654
>The scrapchads are on another level of autism.

Yes. Have you ever showed off that heirloom sterling your wife has? I'd love to see a pic if you have one handy. Are you the anon with a big based sterling water pitcher? I believe that anyone who claims to love silver but doesn't have at least a few place settings of sterling is really missing out on an important facet of its appeal.

>>53980250
It's genuinely this one same individual starting all the discourse if everyone ignored him the thread will heal

>>53980264
>The demand may still keep its value if high enough.
>Also keep in mind that Not all rare items have demand
this is true in many cases.

for example anon's eagles that went up much higher than silver value. They are not rare, but the demand is extremely high. We call this disconnect between spot price and the value of the coin, numismatic value.

eagles go up in value faster than silver because they are in demand for reasons other than their silver content alone. Numismatic value.

>>53980256
>>53980250
I collect silver

>>53980321
>anon's eagles
it's the same drivel from the same guy his IP just switched mid conversation

>>53980321
So ALL silver has numismatic value and the term numismatic is meaningless. Fine. I can agree to this.

>>53980331
in the case of the post that started this little side convo, it doesn't matter what anon collects since he said the value rose, and that has nothing to do with why HE collects eagles.

his coins rose in value faster than silver because other people collect them for numismatic reasons. Their numismatic interests increased the value of his coins. Thus it is numismatic value, even if his reasons for buying weren't particularly numismatic.

>>53980348
>ALL silver has numismatic value and the term numismatic is meaningless.
all coins and most bars have numismatic value to someone.

if you melt your eagles they cease to have numismatic value, but then your gains drop from 30 something percent to 8 because you lost the numismatic value.

>>53980368
actually, premiums rose on eagles because of record SILVER demand combined with US mint issues. It had nothing to do with people collecting special years or coins in certain condition.

>>53980391
>actually, premiums rose on eagles because of record SILVER demand combined with US mint issues.
yes, collecting US mint issues is a numismatic pursuit.
>It had nothing to do with people collecting special years or coins in certain condition.
numismatic value doesn't necessarily arise from date, mint mark, or condition. Any coin people buy for more than its value is a numismatic item, and all coins have the potential to be bought for more than their face or intrinsic value.

>>53980197
Paying property tax and bills is better than paying out the ass on rent where your money goes nowhere. I get your sads regarding ownership tho. My house in the city cost so damn much just to live year by year I might as well been renting.

while there is a coin dealer numismatist itt would you mind telling me if this is worth getting graded? my amateur estimate is like PF65 possibly cam but I normally suck with that. a lot of the pop falls around 65/66 with this particular coin

>>53979218
>The Price of Larp

>>53980420
Fine. But eagles numismatic value is solely due to supply/demand and not subjective collector value. Feels good being up 35% can’t wait for silver spot to pop again.

>>53980449
It’s not a coin made for circulation. Getting it graded wont increase its value much if at all. Probably better to leave it in the nice case that it came in.

>>53980266
Not the pitcher anon but I’ll post pics when I got WiFi again. Currently just grateful I’m not getting IP banned for the 100th time.

>>53980449
it looks cameo to me.

does grading increase the value of the coin by more than $50 US? If so and you like the looks of slabs, go for it. Otherwise it's doing just fine where it is from the looks of it.

>>53980466
shut up ASEnigger getting it graded as a 67 or cam would definitely improve the price point over an unslabbed coin

>>53980456
>But eagles numismatic value is solely due to supply/demand and not subjective collector value.
these are the same thing.

if it wasn't subjective, they wouldn't go up in value faster than any other bullion round.

>>53980433
For now, I'm staying with my parents and its culturally acceptable here. I'm saving monies on rent and I'm planning for a house with full cash.

>>53980250
>I find it amusing how hard the coin collectors of /pmg/ work to deny they collect coins.

I don't deny it, fucking love the numismatic side of it.

>>53980385
>>53980348
I think you're talking past each other. The thing you're missing is that when you buy a coin, you're logically buying two things
>the silver content
>the form and "historical content" of this silver as currency, which we call it's numismatic value.
Michaelangelo's David has a certain marble content, which can be valued by weight, and sold to a quarry or mason. However, it has artistic and historical value that far exceeds its value as a piece of rock.

>>53980501
Do it! Rent is a Jewish scheme and the boomer culture of somehow getting a house at 18 is a boomer Ponzi.

>>53980491
Its not subjective. There is a supply and demand curve that determines price. Same for toilet paper or chicken legs. It went up faster than other rounds/coins because of unprecedented demand combined with US mint production issues.

>>53980501
If you're in the US, our houses are now mostly well beyond the income range of almost every unmarried person. E.g. to buy my house on a 30 year fixed with 20% down you'd need income of about $90k per year to get the mortgage.

this is more than 99% of single individuals in my town earn.

>>53980516
>combined with US mint production issues.
which could easily be avoided by buying other coins from other mints

people didn't do that, because they want the eagle for subjective, numismatic reasons.

>>53980506
>I don't deny it, fucking love the numismatic side of it.
me too

>>53979654
>realized I had no right trying to scalp sterling
What do you mean by that?

>>53980501
>I'm planning for a house with full cash.
also in the US, the dollar is declining in value and houses are rising so fast you conceivably will never save enough cash to buy a house.

by the time you save up $400k, houses will be a million. By the time you save a million, they'll be 2 million. This has always been true in my life though. In the last 50 years at least houses have gone up way faster than wages.

>>53980562
I think he was saying he bit off more than he can chew after realizing that sterling items are more inconvenient to offload/get refined over the much more liquid pure silver bars and rounds

>>53980548
It’s supply and demand. The demand outstripped supply. People are putting their money into eagles because they want to put their wealth into a liquid and a well recognized form of silver in the US. Premiums on 2022 eagles didn’t jump to 100% because of subjective value. That’s so stupid to suggest.

>>53980515
Danke and god bless.

>>53980583
>People are putting their money into eagles because they want to put their wealth into a liquid and a well recognized form of silver in the US.
yes, this is broadly described as numismatic value. Numismatists have lots of different reasons for wanting one coin more than another.

>Premiums on 2022 eagles didn’t jump to 100% because of subjective value. That’s so stupid to suggest.
protip, generic art rounds are just as liquid as eagles, so the value of eagles is certainly subjective.

>>53980583
>People are putting their money into eagles because they want to put their wealth into a liquid and a well recognized form of silver in the US
that's subjective value you fucking retard I have no idea why anyone entertains your pedantic "well actually" larp. For all you've talked you can't even prove you own a single eagle.

>>53980583
>People are putting their money into eagles because they want to put their wealth into a liquid and a well recognized form of silver in the US
It's not people. It's just boomers with a misplaced pride/murica brainwashing thinking it's their patriotic duty to buy an overpriced ugly coin.

>>53980624
>It's just boomers with a misplaced pride/murica brainwashing thinking it's their patriotic duty to buy an overpriced ugly coin.
nailed it

this is numismatics. Boomers buying dumb shit for arbitrary prices they'll never recover when their kids sell their collection to me for pennies on the dollar.

>>53980638
depressing reality
>grandpa spends his whole life building up a cherished coin collection
>kids sell it all to a pawn shop owner with dollar signs for eyes when he dies
many such cases

>>53980624
>>53980638
You are sadly mistaken. If you are a person with a lot of wealth, how do you safe guard your cash? You buy silver and gold eagles. Not asahi round. Eagles are liquid. That is one of the most important aspect when you go to sell.

>>53980583
The things you're mentioning though, such as
>well recognized
That's a subjective measure. You could show your ASE to any roastie and she's just going to stare at it and it will look like any other coin to her. Silver is a fungible commodity in that 1 oz of .999 silver could be exchanged with any other ounce. But what differentiates a coin from a round are these intangible qualities (like artistic or historical values) which means ASEs are non fungible, not just with other silver forms but also among other ASEs. Hence a portion of the value of the ASE is a human being has a subjective opinion about the value of the thing.

>>53980688
Liquidity is not subjective. It can be measured. You skipped over that. Nice try though.

>>53980527
I'm not in the US and I'm very gifted to have the current income that I have. Pretax, I think it should take 3 years of my income to buy a 2500sqft house. I've saved up 2 years worth already.

>>53980578
Price of land does that here. Out of nowhere in the last 2 to 3 years, price of land has more than doubled. Cost of construction has not done a drastic increase, but it should be around 20% to 30%. I'm close to the amount to build a house comfortably, but how do I put all my investment into a single illiquid asset. House still seems like a very big purchase.

>>53980624
>>53980638
Who cares. I’m up 36% on my silver from 2020.

>>53980704
Why is it liquid?

Because it's well recognized? Because people feel patriotic buying a coin with an eagle on it? Is that why?

Filtered

>>53980684
I've made a lot of money off that dynamic, but that's a different story.
>>53980685
eagles are more liquid for subjective reasons. People want them more. It's circular, but the reason you buy them is not necessarily the same reason other people do.
>>53980704
>Liquidity is not subjective. It can be measured
if you measure it you'll find I'll buy your asahis just as easily as your eagles

I'll just pay less because numismatics.
>>53980708
I've had my house for 22 years, I think it's doubled in value 3 times over that period. I paid $50k US and it's worth more than 10x that now.

>>53980747
>13PbtID
>"who cares lol, certainly not me!"

>>53980777
You can do an experiment. Go on Craigslist and list a tube of eagles for $2 per oz under dealer price. Do the same with 20 asahi rounds. State price is firm. You’ll see how easy it is to sell eagles. You may find it’s hard to sell asahi round but I don’t know. Post your results.

>>53980777
>I think it's doubled in value 3 times over that period.
Checked. And this is what happen to western nations who outsourced all their production. They have nothing left to show off but their land.
Real estate is soon to be a quarter of US GDP, that's how absurd and terminal the situation is.
Since we don't produce anything of value anymore, we artificially prop up our RE, then whore it out to foreign interests, claiming we still are at the top. Truth is we are dying and everybody knows it.

>>53980831
I literally sell coins on ebay all day.

I know eagles are easier to sell, that's exactly my point. The reason they're easier to sell is numismatic value being higher.

>>53980860
I was talking about this with my oldest son. If things keep up I expect he'll never be able to afford a house. It sucks but I doubt it'll last long. It's the sort of dynamic that causes revolutions.

>>53980688
>which means ASEs are non fungible
This is a huge problem with Morgan dollars, too.

>spent way too much fucking money the last month on PMs
>can only buy a roll of mercs every two weeks

Go on without me, bros. Stack in my name.

>>53980930
Glad we agree

>>53980953
People that own Morgans hardly find that a problem.

150 posts. Like 3 ounces of real pm's someone owns posted. Let's get some 2023 going. Show latest part of collection.

>>53981005
Forbidden cake.

>>53981005
20 lire and 1/10th eagle i recently got. GF also just got me a mene platinum chain for my bday cus she knows im autistic about metals

>>53981005
The khazar merchant fears the sky father's eagle

>>53981091
Why is it so fucking hard to get reasonably priced Mexican silver when I live on the same continent? Isn't Mexico full of silver?

>>53981125
>Isn't Mexico full of silver?
Where do you think all those other (non NA) mints get their supply?

Plus I don't think they're in a hurry to give up what they rightfully view as a national asset

Anyone and everyone who unironically thinks silver is protection from some end of the world scenario where the entire economy crashes is so fucking retarded it's unreal and are basically inbred schizophrenic boomers who have no grasp on reality

>stocks can go to zero, but my magically metal will still be valuable during the apocalypse because.... they just will be, ok!

Bunch of fucking retards who unironically think their silver/gold will be valuable because it's silver and gold lmao. Yeah, I'm sure during the apocalypse someone will definitely trade me their guns and food so they can gold a fucking little coin and look at it LMAO

Once again, zero grasp on reality. All boomer whose brains are fried from leaded gasoline. Can't wait until they all die off. Most retarded generation, ever

>>53981221
>I'm sure during the apocalypse someone will definitely trade me their guns and food so they can gold a fucking little coin and look at it LMAO
Why not? countless civilizations have done exactly that for thousands of years

>>53981125
I have a hypothesis that the drug cartels are using PMs for storing wealth, and Mexican pride makes Libertads the flavor of choice.
Or more likely, it could have to do with the mint's low production during the pandemic.

>>53981221
>are basically inbred schizophrenic boomers
I think it's mostly kids actually. Boomers are trying to unload the stuff.

>>53981221
Your an idiot if you are expecting an end of world scenario. But currency collapse is very possible in our lifetime. Regardless of either of those, Look at the gold chart and you’ll see that It has been a great buy. Wealth preservation with a return is real nice. Silver I’m expecting to catch up with inflation. But we will see.

>>53981255
Gold/silver has only an acceptable form of trade when civilization was organized you fucking retard. When people were simply trying to survive, furs and food were used as trade, not you faggy little rocks dumbass.

Once again, you "people" demonstrate you live in an alternative reality where up is down and down is up. Nobody cares about your gay little metals when they are cold and hungry.

>>53980624
>>53980638
Imagine being so mad that someone made nice gains on eagles. Imagine hoping the value of eagles drop because you’re mad your generics didn’t share in these gains. Pretty shitty.

>>53981339
>currency collapse is very possible in our lifetime
And when that happens, people still are not going to give a shit about your little metals. Venezuela, for example, people were not scrambling around and trading silver and gold. They were literally looting grocery stores for food. You think in your little brain that "oh when society collapses and I have all my silver, I'll be rich!". No dumbfuck, literally nobody is going to want your little meme metals.

>>53981335
Incorrect. They're all boomers

>>53980501
>I'm planning for a house with full cash.
Or how about acquire real money and get a house for virtually nothing?

>>53981221
Every single fiat currency eventually reaches its true value, which is zero.
Of all the companies that were listed on the NYSE when it first opened, only ONE still exists. No, I won't tell you which one.
But an ounce of gold held in the hands of an Egyptian Pharoah is still valuable today. The silver pieces Judas received when he betrayed Christ were probably melted down at some point and are still in circulation. That's the power of metal.

>>53981579
You can think that but dozens of historical example including current day examples happening as we speak says you’re wrong.

>>53981536
>buh buh but in the made up unrealistic apocalypse scenario in my head it wont work like that!!!!
yes I suppose if I was the last man on earth I'd have nonuse for gold

>>53981579
Here's your L

>>53981579
You can't compare USA vs Venezuela. Despite its flaws, the American economy is massive and the world will definitely be needing us as a trading partner forever. Sure, our economy will contract and we may even have hyperinflation. But we do have the capacity to pick back up because we have lots of energy, food, and manufacturing base. (not all regions are equal, of course. Some places will be far worse off).

>>53981005
>2023
how about 1923?

>>53981221
>hates gold/sillver
>doesnt provide better alternative

such faggotry on display

Why is this retard seething? All we do is stack PMs.

>>53981536
>when civilization was organized you fucking retard. When people were simply trying to survive
Why do you think civilization wouldn't just immediately bounce back within months if not weeks?

You think people wouldn't organize? Lol you sure are one dumb nig nog

>>53981628
Gold is valuable because we say it's valuable. It has zero benefit to the average person. It is exactly like fiat, except made from a less common material.

What's funny is like maybe 1% of the people in this general own even a single ounce of gold. You all own silver which is as common as dirt.

>>53981645
We aren't currently living in an apocalyptic scenario you inbred redneck

>>53981652
>this one time, one guy paid for a haircut using gold so I'm right!!
Meds

>>53981693
Maybe you should read the post I'm replying to in order to develop a sense of context. Then again, that takes an IQ over 80 and if you're unironically buying silver as an investment.... lmao, not a chance

>>53981775
Our long nosed overlords have gotten wind of the frens and their comfy haven away from clown world and have been shitting it up with blacked porn, shitflinging at mintanon, and the usual “PMs are boomer meme rocks just buy tech stock fag” copypasta.

Meanwhile the true frens keep strong and continue to post their most recent stack of shinies.

>>53981782
>Why do you think civilization wouldn't just immediately bounce back within months if not weeks?
Ah yes, whatever caused society to go to shit is just magically going to go away and everything will be back to normal in just a mere TWO MORE WEEKS

The irony of all of this is you retards are just as mentally ill as the troons. You literally all live in some made up reality where what you believe is true no matter the facts - EXACTLY like the fucking trannies hahahaha

my shiny is tarnished :-(

>>53981795
>Gold is valuable because we say it's valuable. It has zero benefit to the average person. It is exactly like fiat, except made from a less common material.
>What's funny is like maybe 1% of the people in this general own even a single ounce of gold. You all own silver which is as common as dirt.
Gold and silver have to be mined, which requires energy. It costs about $1600 to produce an ounce of gold. Gold and silver are stores of energy value.

>seething this hard over the fact that I collect gold coins
wait til you find out about my stamps

>>53981621
Maths are a bit off. He's saying a house will later cost $1ok in *current* fiat. But when the inflation hits, current $26k will become $260k. So although a house will still be cheaper in terms of gold (26ozt), it won't be quite the trivial amount he says.

>>53981804
It’s very weird. You have people hoping silver investments drop because they don’t like certain coins like eagles. You have a board defending a guy selling $75 meme silver. This place has lost sight.

>>53981926
>it won't be quite the trivial amount he says.

It literally plays out that way every single reset/currency crash and you need to take into account this one is the biggest one ever and also for the first time ever is a global crash.

>>53981594
>They're all boomers
On that forum anyway.
I doubt there are many boomers here, and yet...

>>53981859
>whatever caused society to go to shit is just magically going to go away and everything will be back to normal in just a mere TWO MORE WEEKS
Why do you think the only choices are what we have now or total anarchy? You understand the world existed in the middle for THOUSANDS OF YEARS right?

>>53981979
You're waving your arms around.
Re-read and do the math.

>>53982020
What do you don’t as a boomer. The meme version or the generational version.

>>53980250
i buy coins because they are more valuable than silver and look cool

There are seething jews who come to a thread called PRECIOUS METALS GENERAL. To shit on Pm's and foam at the mouth. Kek. Fucking retards! I stack for fun. You can't stop me.

>>53981795
>Maybe you should read
No

>>53981221
>end of the world scenario

That's what our stacks of precious Lead and Iron are for, diversification is a good thing.

>>53981804
>PMs are boomer meme rocks

This is why you should also have Paleolithic Homo Erectus meme rocks, they've held their value for 1.76 million years and counting.

>>53979899
I don't trust ebay at all.

>>53979899
Yes that would indeed be cheaper than spot. 100 corona coins typically sell pretty close to spot and liberty coin is known for putting on 10% off deals. A bunch of anons a few threads ago picked up legit sovereigns for under spot from the same place.

>>53981091
my pesonigga
how’s it going buddy

>>53982039
No, i dont have to, he's not the only one saying it, the numbers might not "exactly" match what the outcome could be (it could be 5-10 oz or 1-2 for a property) but all the financial people like Alastair Mcleod, Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair, Jim Rickards and a few other experts are all saying this is the type of world we are headed into and its all based on the numbers they've been running for years so im going to go with them on this.

>>53981868
Where did you store it?

>>53982706
In the little plastic case that it came in. I've fondled it quite a bit, I assume my shitty greasy fingers probably caused the tarnishing.

>>53981795
>Gold is valuable because we say it's valuable. It has zero benefit to the average person.
Gold is used directly or indirectly in the manufacturing and production of basically every single thing that regular people use. I suppose you'd say that petroleum has no use to an average person either, since if you had a barrel of it in your garage you'd basically just stare at it.

>>53982650
they also have a deal with mexican 20 pesos at 4.5% above spot, good chance to get a beautiful coin for way cheaper than usual
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303135192815

>>53981795
>says that Venezuelans aren't trading with gold
>present evidence that, indeed, they are
>"That doesn't count because...because it doesn't ok!?"
Filtered

stop arguing with the jew

>>53982746
That your fondle piece? I've been trying to get toning on my shiny unsuccessfully.

>>53982202
This.

>>53982825
yeah that's the one I keep at my desk to fondle while working

>>53979999
checked
wisdom gets the digits again

My old man sent me this seemingly interesting bit of news yesterday
https://ourgoldguy.com/2023/03/07/tennessee-house-votes-98-0-to-allow-state-treasurer-to-acquire-and-hold-gold-to-protect-the-state/

>>53981868
Still worth $30. Don’t sweat it.

>>53981868
I've been leaving one of mine to tarnish in the heat near a computer, it's coming along nicely
anyway you know the old baking soda aluminum foil hot water trick
works like a charm in my experience

>>53982202
This. The paper-ponzi works and works well so long as people do not start to allow their capital to chase real goods instead of basis points.
The value density and the extreme scarcity of precious metals ensures that it is a very safe store of value. They can never allow precious metals to look like a value investment because that will pull money out of the overleveraged banking system and exposure the true scarcity of commodities relative to the paper-ponzi-claims.
Think long and hard about what this "wealthiest nation of earth" has to do. We invest over paychecks into overleveraged real estate, 401ks, social security, overleveraged stocks, overvalued bonds etc. All we do is tie up our capital in a massive "place holder". And the only real benefit is that our investments grow faster than inflation can rob us. All of these claims can never be made whole and if for any reason the masses start moving capital OUT of paper-ponzi and into the real world things implode very fast.
The notion that we mine new silver enough to give every single person 3-4 grams is mind blowing. Why wouldn't you want to own a metric fuck ton of it? The elite all have a vested interest in propping up the paper-ponzi for obvious reasons. But in this instance you need to play for the long game, because the paper ponzi ONLY continues via inflation. PMs won't make their move until its too late. That's just how it is going to be.

>>53983087
How many states is that now? I know Idaho passed a very dimilar law just a couple weeks ago

If there's a collapse, people won't give a fuck about numismatic value, will they?

Thinking of just buying ugly coins (but not that shitty looking Indian head one...)

>>53983185
>post-collapse
>trying to buy livestock with silver
>boomer livestock owner: "As-a-hi? I dont know anon I've never heard of that before. Dont you have any silver eagles or pre64 quarters to trade with? I know those ones are the real deal :)"

>>53983185
Coins that are easily verified as genuine will still retain a premium. Trust and recognizability go a long way in a trade among strangers. In the US, that coin is the eagle. The maple in Canada, the Brit in the UK, etc. A shtf scenario is not likely to happen anyway. You shouldn’t base your stacking on that. A high inflation environment is what you want to plan for. You should buy a mix of lower premium rounds, coins, and some junk is always good to have. I like eagles as my gains have been highest with those compared to generics. If you live In the US, definitely get a few tubes of eagles.

>>53983254
You joke but there are a lot of people that would PREFER eagles to generic. Not that they won’t accept either. But because of that preference, coins are likely to retain a premium even in a shtf scenario. Best to own both coins like eagles and cheap generic. Offer the generic first. If he refuses, you have a nice eagle to make the deal. It’s all about preparedness.

>>53983285
Thanks Anon

>>53982202
>orange gold
>grey platinum
Lol, this fag stacks fake PMs.

>>53983182
>I know Idaho passed a very Similar law

Speaking of Idaho, what the fuck is going on over there burger lads? over half of Oregon is looking to join it now?

Is this even real?

>>53983360
The normal people want to get away from the fag cities in the west

>>53983334
Be forewarned. There are a lot of people that subscribe to the “silver is silver” strategy and recommend all in with the cheapest silver. Like with any investments, A well diversified stack is best. It maximizes your gains while minimizes your risk. It prepares you for all situations. An eagle bought in the beginning of 2020 has a 30-40% gain right now. Generic is in the 10-15% range.

>>53983338
Yeah sure boss. It's all plastic. Kek

>>53983565
You can see the chocolate wrapper coming off

Plastic leafs best leafs

>>53983331
>there are a lot of people that would PREFER eagles to generic
>MUH EEEAAAAAGLLLLLESSSS
Oh boy here we fucking go again, you will NEVER be an ASE

Yeah I'm sure people will prefer specie with a fake dollar amount stamped on it by a bankrupt govt rather than a straightforward unit of measurement

>>53983689
>you will NEVER be an ASE

I just found a pic of eggfag's gold stack.

I’ve got a gold krug coming in and only have the capsules with those adjustable foam gaskets that leave a little bit of space when gold goes in. Is there something that snugly fits muh gold perfectly?

>>53983689
In the US that is absolutely true. Like it or not. That is reality.

>>53980684
>boomer builds collection while neglecting kids
>(((public schools/television))) "raise kids" >boomer splurges any inheritance he received on hobbies, generational wealth achieved!
>teach my kids anything? i send them to school!
>i know what i got sonny, no low balls, these 1921 Philadelphia morgans are rare!
>boomer dies and kids trade boomer hobby for cash

in my formerly middle class area that's exactly what i see. i'm friends with my LCS and will hangout in his shop often. it's not uncommon to see some strung out looking middle aged woman walk in with bags of metals and just say "what can i get"

>>53983689
Why does that matter? 1ozt silver is 1ozt silver.

>>53984079
Correct. But only up until is it processed into a coin or round or bar. Then that stops being true.

>>53983807
no need to capsule a krug, theyre built for circulation

>>53983832
>In the US that is absolutely true
nah, most dont even know wtf an ASE is but once they see "ONE DOLLAR" stamped on it guess how much they think its worth

i buy ASE's because my kids like the design, but the marked $ value is absolutely a negative

>>53982841
wow the IDF/ADL/NAMBLA had agents on the first general fudding IMMEDIATELY!
>>53983182
i think all the states that are interested in goldbacks being allowed for currency are going to soon follow up with a law allowing it.
Utah was one that put it into law last year and three other states joined the goldback program within the last year, which leads me to believe people are waking up. of course it's the poor redneck states that are still rooted in reality.
premiums suck but i love the things.

>all these silver boomers seething

Back in 1980, silver was $20 an ounce. Silver underperforms against stocks in such a massive way its hilarious

Funny thing is when I want to liquidate my stocks, I just hit "sell". You retards have to go onto eBay and wait weeks for someone to buy your silver at a discount and then you have to pay 20% to eBay for fees and shipping hahahaha

"Investing" in precious metals is so incredibly retarded it's unreal. You "people" are literally counting on the world to go to shit and on top of that, counting on people to unironically want your gay little metals so you can be a rich man in a world gone to shit hahaha. There's so much retarded logic going on in their minds and honestly I don't think the people who "invest" in silver actually think this through. I'd much rather use my money to get rich right now so I can enjoy life before the world goes to shit

>>53983565
>>53983599
Shit looks fake as fuck lol. Imagine trying to pawn these off to your Chang overloads.
>YOU GO NOW
>YOU LEAVE
>ME CALL POLICE

>>53984171
Sell?

>>53982023
>>53981859
I think we could have a complete collapse of government and everything would continue on fine as long as people continue to go to work which i think 99% of people would do the country would stay running

>>53981868
boil it with bicarbonate of soda i did it yesterday, works great

>>53984183
Yeah you got me, I chiseled the radial lines by hand, right down to the dimensional specifications for how many lines appear between the '1' and the 'OZ', different between gold and platinum even though they're the same size. These radial lines were the hard part, i had to get it right down to the micron level to match the unique reflection pattern that can be scanned by any bullion dna reader. Then I got out a laser and micro engraved the year inside the tiny maple leaf with some other security marks unique from any other coin. After that, I took my millions of dollars worth of laser engraving equipment and put it away so I could take fake macro shots showing my works off on the chocolate coins. Kek

>>53983185
>>53983331
Bad money beats good money.

In a currency collapse scenario, the generic rounds will most likely be the things people trade with. Government mint stuff will be the things you avoid trading with because you consider it more valuable, therefore you won't want to give it away.

Post WW2 some eastern European countries were in currency collapse and started trading with cigarettes. What started happening though was people would trade with lower quality cigarettes and they would smoke the good ones.

>>53984147
surely the goldbacks would be awful as currency i could see the gold coming off easily with use

>>53983428
>"You should diversify your investment portfolio to reduce risk."
>Buys 100 different types of silver bullion

>>53984347
It’s “bad money drives out good money”

>>53984347
A another example is people picking out pre-64 coins from their change.

>>53984171
Hmm yes it must be because silver is a such a bad investment and not because the market is being manipulated.

Tell us more rabbi.

Pic related.

>>53984110
How so? Genuinely curious.

>>53984477
>2019
>silver price per oz still at 1980 levels
Ah yes, so even when they catch these guys, the price of silver still tanks even though inflation is at ridiculous levels...

So you have two options:
1) these people are still manipulating the price of silver, getting caught and are still winning. If that's the case, you're a fucking retard for buying silver - you're basically gambling that eventually all of the "bad guys" will get caught and your silver will finally be worth something. It's a literal gamble lmao

2) their silver manipulation had fuckall to do with the price. Maybe suppressed it a few cents.

Either way, you're a total retard for investing in silver. It literally has to increase in value by 20% just for you people to be able to sell it on eBay and break even. LMAO @ thinking a pawn shop/silver shop is going to even give you 60% of spot price.

>>53984324

>>53978923
what do you mean by "doing silver"

>>53984330
Wow thats a lotta of words. Too bad im not readin em.

>>53984634
selling

>>53984656
Kek

>>53984350
they seem to be fairly durable in youtube videos and while you would be right if they do flake, the little bit that would fall off would overall be minuscule i'd hope.
if it's just the metal that matters i would hope a 1:1 exchange with the producers could be a thing on damaged notes.

crypto nerds will seethe

The little holographic bit on the back of these are really pretty
My first bullion

>>53984721
>they seem to be fairly durable in youtube videos
yeah id imagine theyre not really being handled in those though if people were to use them as money they be thrown in pockets, wallets etc theyd probably fall apart very fast theyre essential think pokemon cards kek

>>53984808
Wish something like that was at one of my LCS. Or maybe it is? What's the name of those again?

>>53984870
argor heraeus kinebar

>>53982682
>i dont have to
Kek... you don't even know.

>>53979899
i was gonna order the 2012 britannia below spot but they sold out and i missed it : (

Post your pocket change.

>>53978580
I work for a Goverment whose name I won't disclose, I am here to warn you that we are planning to make private ownership of bullion illegal. All gold and silver will be confiscated because it allows dissidents like you to evade taxes. You been warned.

>>53981621
I'm stacking gold to one day fuck an actual real live goblin woman, and even to me this scenario seems patently ridiculous.

I don't know if anyone's interested (no drama here…) but I got out to play again.
Neat little island, with a crack running through the length of it.

>>53979899
Add my 3.3% cash back and it’s a hell of a deal

>>53985014
Have a florin in my wallet.

>>53985061
so, seemed like the perfect location. Even had some nice, now points to scrape out!
But got like 4 tiny little specs from it. Seems like outside bend really doesn't bode well for gold.

>>53985090
I would pay extra for a Greggs PM coin...

>>53985061
nice. i just got some pans and was planning to try my luck for the first time this year when it gets a bit warmer
my state isn't known for lots of gold, but there's some out there

>>53985114
It's hard work and it can be utterly frustrating, but it's fun!
Also, there is something primal about seeing gold in your pan. It really is a special material:
>>53981221
>Bunch of fucking retards who unironically think their silver/gold will be valuable because it's silver and gold lmao.
yes.

>>53985197
i panned through some paydirt just to practice and even that felt excellent.
what do you do about extremely fine gold? i think if i find any it'll be very small/potentially hard to separate.

>>53985090
Boss! Pocket gold. As it should be.

>>53985233
>what do you do about extremely fine gold? i think if i find any it'll be very small/potentially hard to separate.
I only got fine stuff. That pic is a mm grid. I just pan out the last step very carefully, because all those "stop/do this… when you see gold" tricks don't work when you've got only very tiny gold in the pan.

>>53985312
i'm just getting ahead of myself and excited over the prospect of playing with mercury i guess.
those are cool pics, do you primarily pan or use some sort of sluice?

Seems American silver eagles are NOT numismatic coins. They are bullion coins. There are however numismatic versions such as the proof silver eagle. Pmg BTFO.

>>53985411
>i'm just getting ahead of myself and excited over the prospect of playing with mercury i guess.
Please don't use mercury!
>those are cool pics, do you primarily pan or use some sort of sluice?
Funny that you ask, I'm currently wrestling with ffmpeg to get a sluice webm. Not sure if i've got the hang of it yet, but it's a fun toy.

>>53985512
“Numismatic coins are bought and sold primarily for their collectable value as opposed to their silver content”. Bullion silver eagles are not considered numismatic coins. BTFO.

>>53985512
>Pmg BTFO.

Cope and seethe eggtard.

>>53985619
Every source I have found says the same thing. Proofs or first strikes or other similar qualities/special minting give an eagle numismatic value. But bullion eagles are not. Cope and seethe.

Hahahahaha. Pmg was so sure of themselves. That ANY price above spot is considered numismatic. It’s not true! From the experts themselves. Bullion coins bought for silver content are not numismatic.

>>53985520
>Please don't use mercury!
a 4chan post never brought me so close to tears. why?

>>53985782
Because it's toxic for you and for the environment.
As per 4Chan-KYS rules, the first wouldn't be a big deal, but the latter is!
If you use mercury, it'll end up in the environment and it'll fuck things up! (also, it's illegal and unlike many other illegal things, this actually makes sense.)

>>53985659
Eggfaggot confirmed to be a retard for the 6,000,000th time this week:

>The Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985 (Public Law 99-185 of Dec. 17, 1985, 99 Statutes At Large 1177, 31 USC 5101, 5111, 5112) provided for minting the American Eagle ounce, half ounce, quarter ounce, and tenth ounce gold coins. Section 2(3) provides, "For purposes of section 5132(a)(1) of [Title 31], all coins minted under this subsection shall be considered to be numismatic items."

>The Liberty Coin Act of July 9, 1985 (Public Law 99-61 of 7/9/85, 99 Stat. 115, 31 USC 5112) authorized the one ounce silver coin commonly called the Silver American Eagle. At section 202(g) it contains identical language.

>By statutory definition then, the American Eagle gold coins and the silver American Eagles are "numismatic" coins. (31 USC Section 5132(a)(1) requires the Secretary of the Treasury to apply proceeds from selling "numismatic" items to cost of making them.)

ASEs are legally and definitionally "numismatic" you obnoxious sperg, get a life.

>>53985061
>>53985103
remember to wash the roots out in a bucket! grass like that catches fine gold really well. I wish i could get out, everything is buried and blocked up with meters of snow.

>>53985736
>Hahahahaha. Pmg was so sure of themselves. That ANY price above spot is considered numismatic. It’s not true! From the experts themselves. Bullion coins bought for silver content are not numismatic.

I would KMS if I were 1/10th as stupid as you, I really can't fathom how you manage it.

>>53985520
that looks like a pretty good pocket sluice!

>>53985837
>also, it's illegal
i saw so many youtube videos (in america) of people doing it/explaining the procedure so assumed it was fine.

>>53985893
I did, and some moss too for good measure, but nothing. I guess in summer I've gotta get my swimming trunks and test the island further out in the stream. That outside bend position is really fucking with gold deposition, otherwise, that spot is perfect.
Fuck, I forgot to replant the grass!

>>53985913
Had like 4 colors from 3 10l buckets. That fits with what I panned from the spot I got the buckets from, but I'm not yet sure of my sluicing skills. I immidiately filled all riffles, so I proably wasn't steep enough or didn't have enough water.
I wanted to upload a vid, but somehow, I lost my ffmpeg mojo. Every improvement I do, makes the webm larger. 160MB for 20 seconds? WTF did I do?
>>53985928
Never seen it in the youtube vids (also from NA) I watch.
Maybe it really is legal for you guys? That would be retarded.

>>53985929
then it was probably under too high speed of water to stick around, remember fine gold drops out differently than nuggets.
>>53985928
please dont use mercury unless you know how to properly contain and dispose of it. Its horrible stuff that stays with you for years. If you have loads of fine gold and dont want to use mercury, look into buying a spiral concentrator or a rod mill tool.
>>53985999
your sluice is also fairly short, you may want to try and get it a bit higher out of the water, try and see if you can get a "rapid" kind of action across the matting, your recovery rate should go up and your riffles shouldnt plug up.

Got my first sov today.

>>53986043
>and dispose of it
why would you dispose of it? i assumed you'd use a retort and capture it to reuse. again, i'm far from that point and just thought it would be fun to play with.

>>53986076
Surprised at the size.

>>53986043
>your sluice is also fairly short, you may want to try and get it a bit higher out of the water, try and see if you can get a "rapid" kind of action across the matting, your recovery rate should go up and your riffles shouldnt plug up.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. That spot just wouldn't want to have it.

>>53984918
Thanks

>>53985014
Can't say I have anything like that. Just a coin I take around the house and one I've left in a spot to tarnish for fun.

>>53986101
i do retort my mercury when / if I have to use it. I was meaning in general though. There are loads of people who just put their sponge gold in a steel fry pan and hit it with a blow torch outside to get rid of the mercury.
>>53986118
little sluices like that have those sorts of problems, might i suggest making a longer, wood attachment / extension piece that could give you a better angle?

>>53986076
Nice (Canadian?) silver
Almost picked up 5 sovereigns as my first ounce of gold some time ago

>>53986172
Yeah, I gotta see what I can do with that sluice, but I just didn't have enough drop to go any steeper.

>>53986268
failing that, could you build a rocker? you might have a better time using a rocker box or a tiny highbanker style tool than a stream sluice.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/265181283298
something similar to this could work for you.

>>53986215
It's Newfie. Of the King George V coins I have that aren't in plastic it has the finest relief.

>>53986721
Thanks for the insight. Still want me one of those canoe coins.

>>53986729
Just one?
They're my fave. Even though they aren't as low priced relative to spot as they once were they're still affordable.

>>53986763
So I (seem to) see. I'm looking at one for 21 dollars in a condition that I at least like. Tempting. Surprising diameter too.

>>53984551
Post nose

>>53986763
Definitely want to hunt down the remakes as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wm4XjTUO6Y
Thanks for letting me know about this rabbit hole

>>53986786
Do you care about the obverse? King or Queen?
1935 is the first year of minting. Most expensive are 1936 and... 1948 i think.
Cheapest year is generally 1965. (1964 is sometimes cheaper but no canoe.)
>53986215
>5 sovs
Is 4 sovs 0.96 ozt? Close enough to an ounce for my liking. Still I get it. 1.2 ozt is preferable.
>>53986868
>rabbit hole
I started young. I prefer the geese myself. I probably have as many geese as I have canoes. The canoe is still very satisfying. It's in the logo for the Canadian Numismatic Association.

>>53986956
I’d love geese. But they are twice the price of canoes when I find them on eBay in the UK.

>>53986956
thanks for the breakdown, I'll do some search with that info
only goose I have is this fella

next one baking, checked trips
>>53986999

Hi, I like copper too.

Question. Is good to stack rare earth metals?

>>53987021
no

>>53986993
>twice the price
Oof. I only pay at most 3 dollars more.
>>53987004
Oh nice. Rare goose!
There is a variety of the goose called diving goose where the orientation of the reverse is rotated. Those vary in degree of rotation and go for big money the further off center they get. Rarest geese.

where can I find a una and the lion 100 oz...

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>>53990054